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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headhoars at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Price and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back,

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Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. The preseason

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Speaker 1: is in the rear view mirror. No more guessing, no

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Speaker 1: more snap counts. It's time to talk some football, doll.

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Speaker 1: That's the next time to Dallas Cowboys take the field.

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Speaker 1: It'll be September ninth against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of excitement around the fact that guess

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Speaker 1: what the preseason's done. The Cowboys did go owen four,

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Speaker 1: But guess what, the records don't really matter, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about that and so much more. As

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Speaker 1: it is cut down day here at the Star and

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Speaker 1: frist Go. Welcome into Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos. Tostitos,

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Speaker 1: the official chip and dip of the Dallas Cowboys. Here

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Speaker 1: from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. Heck My Harrison, Isaiah stand back,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeomans, and let's get right to it.

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Speaker 1: No messing around on this show today. There will be

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Speaker 1: plenty of hooligans on this show today. But let's get

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Speaker 1: down to the nitty gritty. What does the cut scene

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Speaker 1: look like right now? Rob Phillips A bunch of unofficial

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Speaker 1: cuts right now as we sit here at eleven Central

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Speaker 1: on cutdown Day. The ones that have been confirmed have

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Speaker 1: been by Jerry Jones on the fan this morning. And

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Speaker 1: you just put out a stat about the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: I did so, the Cowboy of the show. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys cut two quarterbacks, both Garrett Gilbert and Ben Denucci

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Speaker 1: are now have now both been waived by the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: And the Cowboys are the only team in the NFL

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Speaker 1: at least at the moment that has cut multiple quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: That's something they at least keep an eye on moving forward.

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Speaker 1: But they haven't made the most significant cut in the

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Speaker 1: league at the quarterback position. Nope, That then came in

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Speaker 1: New England. Yes, but they have made a couple of cuts.

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Speaker 1: Ben to Nushi, Garrett Gilbert cut Cooper Rush, Heck Isaiah

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Speaker 1: for now. He's the backup quarterback for now, along with

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Speaker 1: some other guys. Again, it's unofficial, but there's been reports

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Speaker 1: come out somewhere around three o'clock Central, right before then.

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Speaker 1: And this is one of those crazy days in the

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Speaker 1: NFL that you kind of have to look at and Isaiah,

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Speaker 1: I know you've been through this before specifically, but what

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Speaker 1: is this day like for the players? I mean walking in?

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Speaker 1: Even Barry Church last week talked about it. He's like,

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Speaker 1: still in nerve wracking days that kind of what players

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Speaker 1: are dealing with right now. Yeah, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: there's a year aside from my first year in the

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm probably I'm on the other

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Speaker 1: not a it sucks. There's no other way to say it.

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Speaker 1: For those that haven't been in that situation before, um

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Speaker 1: You walk in and all the work that you've been

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Speaker 1: putting in for however many months now, Right, they've been

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Speaker 1: rolling since what Mar April around Erkaby Rose is April.

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Speaker 1: Every day you've been showing up. You've been eating with

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't believe you're you're you're you're literally

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Speaker 1: replaying everything that you could have done. And you're you're

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Speaker 1: I need you to come with me. I've been cut

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Speaker 1: five times, five times, and every single time you walk

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Speaker 1: know he's like all right, you start saying goodbye to everybody,

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Speaker 1: You can't under mine or play this down because the

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Speaker 1: Isaiah almost described that like a relationship, like going through

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Speaker 1: as well, Isaiah. I have a nine year old daughter

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Speaker 1: but there's there's other factors, other factors. There's money involved,

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Speaker 1: like what what would he want to play for? You know,

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Speaker 1: does he want what? Is he worth playing for? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That I mean like he played under hardly anything last year,

428
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Speaker 1: didn't he It was a million dollars? Yeah, yeah, it

429
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Speaker 1: was in comparison to quarterback. Let me just say that people, Well, sure, sure,

430
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Speaker 1: but I mean, you know that what we don't know

431
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Speaker 1: exactly what the reasoning was too, Like did they think

432
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Speaker 1: that he didn't want to sit behind a rookie and

433
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Speaker 1: so he doesn't want to be in that situation like

434
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Speaker 1: Asa is right this late in the game, you may

435
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Speaker 1: not have a choice, but you know, he's a great

436
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Speaker 1: He's had a great Chris. Guys, Yeah, talk about it.

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Speaker 1: It might have been one of those things and we

438
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Speaker 1: talked about this last year in certain scenarios. But it's

439
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Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like, Okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: give you every shot you possibly can to win this job.

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Speaker 1: If you win it, great, If not, we're gonna let

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Speaker 1: you go and do something else because we don't want

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Speaker 1: to hold you up sort of deal. So maybe that's

444
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Speaker 1: why it's so late in the game. But you're I think,

445
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Speaker 1: great points on both sides of the argument, because it's

446
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Speaker 1: not a cut and dry let's go get camed. No,

447
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Speaker 1: not at all. It is not that easy, and Hack

448
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Speaker 1: made that very very clear. But it also at the

449
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Speaker 1: same time, on the field, it makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 1: It makes a ton of sense to look at it.

451
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw some other names out here here before

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Speaker 1: we go to break. I can't even say that name.

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Speaker 1: Can't say that one either. Anthony Gordon, Kansas City chief,

454
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Speaker 1: second year guy out of Washington State, just because he

455
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Speaker 1: went to Washington State. Now, yeah, you hate him because

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Speaker 1: you're oh wait case Cookus. Probably not kJ Costello from

457
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Speaker 1: the Chargers. He was a Stanford guy. Uh, there's both

458
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Speaker 1: of our guys. Clayton Thorson, former Cowboys backup at least

459
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Speaker 1: by the Giants. Maybe Cooper Rush comparison. Maybe yes, No, don't,

460
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Speaker 1: I mean Coopers don't wait more. You don't make a

461
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Speaker 1: move unless it's a move, right, Yeah, or some of

462
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Speaker 1: the other guys that we can't talk about. And I

463
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Speaker 1: think that's what Jerry meant by the high bar. In

464
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Speaker 1: addition to we don't know what their budget is, what

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Speaker 1: they want to spend at the position. We also he

466
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Speaker 1: mentioned the waiver process and like there's competition there, especially

467
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Speaker 1: that position exactly you know goes through waivers that you

468
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Speaker 1: might like. So there's other factors here. That's kind of

469
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Speaker 1: my point here of reading these names off is I mean,

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Speaker 1: going throughout the backup quarterback competition, we're looking at guys

471
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Speaker 1: and we're saying, list that's a good question, and I

472
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Speaker 1: don't know exactly where it is, but we were waiting

473
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Speaker 1: for names to just sleep slip off of these rosters,

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Speaker 1: and none, really, no big names are slipping, with the

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Speaker 1: exception of maybe Cam Newton, Duck Hodges. Another one on there,

476
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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. Josh Johnson is on there too from the Jets. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The twitter verse mentioned Will Greer from Carolina, who's worked

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Speaker 1: with Doug nust Meyers, a West Virginia guy, but again

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Speaker 1: that's Waivers and if they're so yeah yeah wow, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we'll see a lot of rais.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna look everybody compared him in that cut to

482
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Speaker 1: Benda Nucci here, at least from what I had seen

483
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Speaker 1: from brow is the opposite of really yeah yeah, So

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't have a point of reference. I

485
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Speaker 1: don't have a point of reference on him other than

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Speaker 1: what he did at West Virginia. So that is it's

487
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Speaker 1: a good point. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is I've

488
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Speaker 1: got friends with Caroline, thank you, and there I know

489
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Speaker 1: you and questioning that they're saying it been to Nuccie.

490
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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty even with Will Greer. So did y'all

491
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Speaker 1: bring donui back to practice squad. Do you hope he clears?

492
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Speaker 1: I mean you bring you know, you count on nuc Man. Yay,

493
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Speaker 1: some traders man, y'all switch on y'all boys so fast.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see you, did you? Swit Sizes? Is that?

495
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Speaker 1: Is that? What kind of friend you are? You're switicizes? Not?

496
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Speaker 1: I mean if you can't throw the football on your

497
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Speaker 1: front foot? No, I mean his decision. I mean not here.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'd rather have double G. See that's the thing,

499
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Speaker 1: like you could bring double G back to the practice

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Speaker 1: char I'd rather have double G, you know, absolutely, and

501
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Speaker 1: give yourself a third guy who's not counting towards your

502
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Speaker 1: active roster. And in my head, in my head, I

503
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Speaker 1: know Heckman doesn't agree with this. If you're in position

504
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Speaker 1: to bring in a cam, you bring cam in to

505
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Speaker 1: be the backup, and you rush down to your practice squad,

506
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Speaker 1: how are you gonna do? It's like that all year?

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Speaker 1: Do you come on home to it? I just tell y'all, listen,

508
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Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen if you bring in something

509
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Speaker 1: like that. If we hypothetically lose the first two games,

510
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Speaker 1: you're sitting there in Philadelphia at home and Dak is

511
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Speaker 1: having a horrible start to the season, and the Bluebirds

512
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Speaker 1: come out in the third and everybody's rob is writing about,

513
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Speaker 1: oh my god, we could just rest him to put

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Speaker 1: Kim I don't want to happen. If it was twenty seventeen, maybe,

515
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Speaker 1: but not twenty one. My whole thing is you just

516
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Speaker 1: need a guy that steps in there. That guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think about the critics ready to pounce on.

518
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Speaker 1: I don't care about critics. I never have care. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about the outside of outside. I'm talking about the

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Speaker 1: world of Twitter verse and people that talk about talking

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Speaker 1: about the people that don't like Dak because they're gonna

522
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Speaker 1: find any reason to do that. But there's that that

523
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Speaker 1: that group of people is dwindling very quickly. So you

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Speaker 1: think bringing Cam would be bed and with Jerry loved

525
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Speaker 1: that absolutely. But Jerry loved absolutely. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that. I don't know the back end. I don't

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Speaker 1: know the how he is with teammates, I don't know

528
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Speaker 1: how he is with learning, and I don't know all that.

529
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Speaker 1: As I'm talking about physical attributes. If you lose Dak,

530
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Speaker 1: you're bringing Cam, you feel good. It's still Brian Broadest approach.

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Speaker 1: Can he play? Can you play? I don't care about

532
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Speaker 1: really anything, and just can he play? Yeah? Any day?

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Speaker 1: I mean absolutely again, get'll get r G three. I

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Speaker 1: haven't heard anybody saying anything that Cam Newton's a bad

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Speaker 1: teammate now, I haven't had and may say that. Every

536
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Speaker 1: time I see Cam, he's dancing and everybody loves being

537
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Speaker 1: around him. He always and he's always in position to

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Speaker 1: be QB one right obviously on the teams that he's

539
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Speaker 1: been on. He's a great candidate in my opinion, based

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Speaker 1: off the information that we have to beat a backup

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542
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Speaker 1: I think he needs a year to chill because I

543
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Speaker 1: don't think right now he's not being respected around the

544
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Speaker 1: league as a QB one. What do you do and

545
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Speaker 1: gets starting? John got ten million from Chicago, so hey,

546
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Speaker 1: it could happen. Plenty of plenty of dominoes that haven't

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Speaker 1: fallen yet, and plenty of that I've already fallen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's right now go and this is what we've got

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Speaker 1: And there's guys on this unofficial list that I could

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Speaker 1: and Darren Thompson should be one of them because of

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00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: being the special team's contributor. So this may be that

635
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: fragile balance that they're doing about cutting the guy hoping

636
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: he clears waivers and he'll be back. He's vested, I believe.

637
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: So I think he's vested, but I'll double check. But

638
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: what does that mean. I've heard that for a guy

639
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: being invested. What's different about a vested guy? You have

640
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: a certain number of accrued seasons. I think it's four,

641
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: so you're not subject to waivers. And that's important because

642
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: they've got at least three guys I think that need

643
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: to be on the roster for one day and then

644
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: go to IR for the minimum of three games. That's

645
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: just the way the rules work. So you've got to

646
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: keep Neville Gallimore, Josh Ball, Sean mccun maybe a couple

647
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: other guys. You know, Terrell Basham's had an ankle for

648
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: a while. If you put them, but that that that

649
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: means you got to cut somebody. Maybe you'd want to

650
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: bring back, you know how sevested by these invested. Okay,

651
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: how does PUP affect that? I know, it's like six

652
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: weeks pup. PUP is a minimum of six weeks, So

653
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: that's Chauncey Goldston and Tristan Hill most likely going from

654
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: active pup to reserve pup. So that's those are they're

655
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: not cuts, but you're you're that's a way to remove

656
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: two spots at least for six weeks. So saying all this,

657
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: we did a fifty three man roster projection after Sunday's

658
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: game and it was quite frankly, a pain in the

659
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: act because you're trying to you're trying to count for

660
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: all of these moves that they've got to make. You've

661
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: got t J Vasher two who's on NFI, who could

662
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: revert to reserve. So there's gonna be a lot of

663
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: moving parts here in the next couple of days. And

664
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones said that on the pregame show, not this

665
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: past week, but the week prior against the Texans. It

666
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: was the pregame show and he said, just keep an

667
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: eye out. He said, just don't freak out at first,

668
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: because you're gonna see some names probably shouldn't be released.

669
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: And it's because there's gonna be moves coming. There's gonna

670
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: be moves that follow this and make up that fifty

671
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: three man roster. The other part of it, too, is

672
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: they've got four guys who I assume are all going

673
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: to be on the fifty three by the end of

674
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: the week, but are not right now because they're on

675
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: the COVID list, so they're not technically they don't have

676
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: to be part of the fifty three today, Ceedee Lamb, Carlos, Watkins,

677
00:32:52,520 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: Kasey and Connor Williams. So that's another I'm just deep. Well,

678
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, like what you see today, you're right, like,

679
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be the exact same thing by the

680
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: end of the week. So they've got a lot of

681
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: moves to make here. I am not a math major.

682
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: You guys already know this. This is why I'm in broadcasting.

683
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: But it's so fifty three mans, but you have three

684
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: COVID guys, you have two guys, okay, four COVID guys.

685
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: You have two guys on PUP. Could be three if

686
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: you want to transfer t J. Basher over. So there's

687
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: basically sixty guys that you have that aren't going anywhere.

688
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: But then you got to kind of mix them around it.

689
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: Then you'll have to make tougher decisions down the road, right, Yeah,

690
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: if I'm getting what you're saying, right, yeah, I mean yeah,

691
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: That's the thing is like I wonder you know, you

692
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: go to fifty three, but you have to account for

693
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: four guys on reserve COVID they're coming back, So do

694
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: you make four cuts on Thursday when they're supposed to

695
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: hopefully be clear to come back? Right? How do they?

696
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: How do they work? That? Also? Another one the only

697
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: injury of note coming out of the game Sunday was

698
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph getting hurt with the growing injury growing injuries, Isaiah,

699
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: don't you know it'll take you know, it'll take three days.

700
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: That was unfortunate. Is that going to take him a

701
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks to come back? Do you put him

702
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: on recallable? I are? They have a lot of decisions

703
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: to make here, and I know it's it's like it

704
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: gives you a tired head. But I'm just saying it's

705
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: not a simple cut to fifty three today. What do

706
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: you think about the longevity Isaiah of a groin injury?

707
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: It was a left groin officially for Kelvin Joseph, and

708
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: they thought he was questionable at first, but then they

709
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: turned it back around. I mean, there's so many different

710
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: ways that that can go. I mean, a groin injury

711
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: could take anywhere from you know, I need I need

712
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: three four days off to I need four weeks off right,

713
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, So it just really depends on what grade.

714
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: There's usually a three great scale, you know, first, second,

715
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: or third to in order to determine how it's the

716
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: severity of it. So nobody knows. We don't know, um

717
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: so well, they might have just been precautioned. Maybe he

718
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: just tweaked it a little bit and they're like, okay,

719
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: you're done. Like you're one of our main guys. You

720
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: know obviously you we just drafted you. We're just gonna

721
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: hold you off, you know. So there's there's that you

722
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: started talking about Thompson as the politics of the league. Man,

723
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: this is when you know, I've talked about the politics

724
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: at the NFL in the past. We're not playing him

725
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: in the fourth We're not playing him in our fourth

726
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: Priesson game, so nobody else can get a look at him.

727
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: But we're gonna try to keep him. Of course, it's

728
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: the best sports man, So conversation might have might already

729
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: been had with him, or maybe they just left him

730
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: in the dark and just letting him feel as if

731
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: he was going to be on a roster. I've been

732
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: in that position before. I just I didn't play the

733
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: last Priests in a game like I'm good and then

734
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: they turn around and cut you. Was like, whoa wait

735
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: a minute now. So there's so many different ways. It's

736
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: today's stressful for not only for the players, but for

737
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: the team because not only are they trying to yeah,

738
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: for the front office, they're trying to figure out the

739
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: guys that they have. We have about sixty guys. You know,

740
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: maybe Thompson, maybe you're not our fifty three, but you're

741
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: our fifty fourth, right right, So we don't want you

742
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: to go nowhere. So we're not gonna put you on

743
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: the fields that you can ball out and somebody can

744
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: come now coming, come and pluck you, right so we

745
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: know that you're not gonna make our fifty three. So

746
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: let's hide you. Let's let's tuck you down underneath so

747
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: you know that the carpet so nobody can see where

748
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: you're at. Here's an example. Heck, when Rico Gathers had

749
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: to go on i R a few years ago, he

750
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: made the fifty three initially so they could be allowed

751
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: to put him on R and keep his rights contract rights.

752
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: So Kellen Moore, hey, we're gonna cutch it today. And

753
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: then they resigned Kellen Moore after they put Rico on IR.

754
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: So you could see that because they've they've got to

755
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: do that with several guys. But Rob, how many guys

756
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: can you bring back from I R? Is it three

757
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: still or unlimited? Unlimited? Unlimited? This year? I think the

758
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: rules are still the same from last year. There's unlimited

759
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: number of guys, but it's a minimum of three weeks.

760
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: Gotta be on there for three weeks, which I think

761
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: you could say that's probably safe for a couple of

762
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: guys that would be on that IR. I'm trying to

763
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: think of maybe Tristan Hill, but he's still going to

764
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: be on the pup reserve six weeks, So that's a

765
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: six minimum. Most likely that's where he's headed plus Golston two. Okay, yeah,

766
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: I figured that would be the case. No matter what

767
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: they do, I hope they are hell bent on getting

768
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: younger and getting these young guys an opportunity. That's that's

769
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: what I hope they're doing. How do they do that? Well,

770
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they're making some cuts down there, maybe

771
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: some really tough ones that people don't agree with. But still,

772
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: if you're gonna stay true to what Isaiah says, and

773
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I cling to this because I believe in it, how

774
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: do you rebuild your culture? You got enough young guys

775
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: that you have that have proven to you in the

776
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: preseason that they can play. And y'all looked at me

777
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: like I had four eyeballs when I said something about

778
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: playing the young guys over some of these young guys

779
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: over some of these veteran older guys. But we have

780
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: to start looking at stuff like that to get this

781
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: roster better, to make it better. When did we do

782
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: that to you? Oh? When I said something when we

783
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: were talking having the Anthony Brown conversation, I was right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

784
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: So that's all you wanted? Oh you wanted boss Man

785
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 1: Fat in the starting lineup weeks. I think I think

786
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: that when you talk about building culture, the future is now,

787
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: you have some options. Your defensive line is going to

788
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: be better. I think we feel confident that that defensive

789
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: line is going to be better, and so give these

790
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: young guys a shot. Give him a shot, because right now,

791
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: if Nashaun Wright Picks has a pick six, he's tied

792
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: with Anthony Brown and touchdowns, okay, and Anthony Brown has

793
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: been in the league a lot longer than him. If

794
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: boss Man Fat has six interceptions, he matches Jordan Lewis

795
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: for his career, He's bypasses Jordan Lewis for his career.

796
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: What are we holding on? Because Kyle's retort that day

797
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: was against Tom Brady week one Thursday Night football, So Eddie,

798
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: So really, if this is a production driven business and

799
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: you haven't gotten the production there, what do you feel?

800
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: What do you feel so comfortable about? But I think

801
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: those guys, like I think Anthony Brown has played better

802
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: than Kelvin Joseph over the five weeks, But you know,

803
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think there's been enough evidence

804
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: say he's overtaking him. Right now. I understand that. But

805
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: when you when you've been a part of the league

806
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: long enough rob to know if you have a younger,

807
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: cheaper version, you play that version. And it's not that

808
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown has had that quality of snaps that you

809
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: can say right now he is head and shoulders above.

810
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: I hear that Isaiah probably knows it's better than anybody.

811
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: Like coaches will, if it's close, they'll side towards the

812
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: veteran who's proven more and is probably less likely to

813
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: if it's close, they're gonna go with the younger guy.

814
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: They cost less history of this franchise. When I've been

815
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: around here, it's like, we'll go with the vet for now.

816
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: But what about And it took it took Miles Austin

817
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: a long time to crack the starting line up in

818
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver, when he probably was ready a year before that.

819
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: Even you could say about Romo, you just say my point, No,

820
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: it's took. It took. You know, they went bledsoe for

821
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: a year and a half when they could have just

822
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: turned it over to Tony and said let's go. So

823
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: does Dak Prescott send some snickerdoodle trip tiff treats to

824
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: Cliff a ro or what happened to Romo in Seattle,

825
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: Because if that didn't happen, then you don't even Dak

826
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: may have started only three years. They went with the younger,

827
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: cheaper version. Yeah, just just bob your head, just say yes,

828
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: and that's what we can go to the next name.

829
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: That's one scenario where there's probably a hundred. That's the

830
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: that's the that's they went with the younger, cheaper version.

831
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: After if your Dak had already led him to a

832
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: ten and one start, but you can't lose your job.

833
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: You can't lose your job supposedly in the NFL from

834
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: getting hurt. I'm talking about a younger best that doesn't happen.

835
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: You so tell me this. You you you know this

836
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: better than anybody. Man. They are guys right now. They're

837
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: the analysts and commentators because the team found the younger

838
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: version of what they could do. Those guys were expecting

839
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: every day for you. That mean they look every day

840
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: to replace guys. And what do they you talk about

841
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: all the time, the delicate balance of keeping your salary

842
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: cap and getting younger on your roster. This is what

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Speaker 1: we're talking. Let me throw this out here there. Since

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Speaker 1: since we're just throwing whatever. Um, getting getting younger, knowing

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Speaker 1: this particular situation. Um, but there's a lot of talking

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Speaker 1: about Jalen Smith right now. Would you swap out Jalen

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Speaker 1: Smith for a kJ wright who's older but cheaper, he's

848
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Speaker 1: still free agents? Still free agent? Yeah, he's out there.

849
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Speaker 1: Is he going to be cheaper? Though? He would be

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Speaker 1: cheaper than seven million dollars? I think so. But the

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Speaker 1: problem with that, he's he was like a top one hundred.

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Speaker 1: He wants he wants six seven million, but he nobody's

853
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Speaker 1: giving it to him. So you get older, you get older,

854
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Speaker 1: you get a little cheaper. Would you would you be

855
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Speaker 1: wanting to do that? You? I'm not just you lead

856
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Speaker 1: me down to the Jalen Smith rabbit hole, and I'm

857
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Speaker 1: not gonna go. I'm gonna stand right here. The only

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Speaker 1: the only kink in that that armor in terms of

859
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Speaker 1: what you're you're putting out there, everything's great, But if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get rid of Jalen Smith, you're gonna pay

861
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Speaker 1: a hefty chunk of his money. Like it's gonna like

862
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Speaker 1: you're still paying that contract. So who ef yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

863
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Speaker 1: even And why would you rank kJ right when you

864
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Speaker 1: have a number forty eight. You have Cox on your team.

865
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Speaker 1: Jabril Cox is showing you that he's the younger version

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Speaker 1: of I'm just asking I understand. I'm just saying, you

867
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Speaker 1: can compare a fourth round pick in his rookie years.

868
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Speaker 1: I'm comparing a guy that can do the job in

869
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Speaker 1: the game. I'm talking he was one of the best

870
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Speaker 1: linebackers in the game. Nobody's saying it when it does stop, Well,

871
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: it didn't stop. He's an older version of himself. He

872
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Speaker 1: can't do what he was doing ten years ago. How

873
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: many years have you been in the league. You saying

874
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Speaker 1: he wasn't productive. Of what I'm saying is I have

875
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Speaker 1: the equivalent on the team, and if I put him

876
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Speaker 1: in a position to be successful, he can make those

877
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Speaker 1: plays because guess what, he has the same coach. So

878
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Speaker 1: if I can scheme up and you say, if a

879
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Speaker 1: guy can play in the scheme and make him a

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Speaker 1: little bit better, I can scheme for a guy like

881
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Speaker 1: Jabril Cox. I already have Michael Parsons. I can put

882
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Speaker 1: him in a position to be successful. I don't have

883
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Speaker 1: to go out on the limb to get an older guy.

884
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: I have it on my team already. You're not wrong,

885
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Speaker 1: Like I'm with you, Like it's important young players have

886
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Speaker 1: to play if they're going to get better, Like that's

887
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Speaker 1: a resipe for a Super Bowl, right, And it is

888
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Speaker 1: a delicate balance. I'm just saying, like I think, I'm

889
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Speaker 1: just trying to think how coaches think in large part,

890
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Speaker 1: and I think typically if it's close, they're in the

891
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Speaker 1: business of winning games, and they're gonna side with the vet.

892
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Speaker 1: Not always, And you know what, you're right about twenty

893
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Speaker 1: sixteen in that and Kellen Moore broke his ankle and

894
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Speaker 1: they just had and Romo was out, you know, and

895
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Speaker 1: they just had Jamial Showers and Dak Prescott. They didn't

896
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Speaker 1: go get whoever. You know, they stuck with him and

897
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Speaker 1: but it paid off, you know. But I think by

898
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Speaker 1: and large, sometimes you know, you side with the vet.

899
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Speaker 1: I do think Kelvin Joseph, if he's healthy, will eventually

900
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Speaker 1: work his way up and get playing time. I'm still

901
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: confident of that. I just think based on what we

902
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Speaker 1: saw in camp, Anthony Brown did nothing to lose a

903
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Speaker 1: starting job in the opinion over five over five weeks,

904
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Speaker 1: and I think that's what the case is specifically right now.

905
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Speaker 1: I in the general thought, if you have an opportunity

906
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Speaker 1: to go younger, then hell yeah, go younger. I mean

907
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Speaker 1: younger and cheaper is always better in the NFL, except

908
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: whenever you have guys that are okay at the moment.

909
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like Anthony Brown was just getting

910
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Speaker 1: torched every single playing. Well were the last time you go?

911
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Speaker 1: But it endum thirty or bad? Momo? I wait because

912
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Speaker 1: you haven't. You hadn't had anything to go off of.

913
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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the defense that you know has

914
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Speaker 1: to be market league improved from last year. They have

915
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: nowhere to go but up. So what are you holding

916
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Speaker 1: on too? Because I just said if the man has,

917
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Speaker 1: if Nashan right has to pick six, he's tied with

918
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Speaker 1: Anthony Brown foot career touchdowns pick six. Diggs doesn't even

919
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Speaker 1: have one things that's what three interceptions last year? Yeah,

920
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Speaker 1: Xavier Howard had ten. What do you want on your teall?

921
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the rest of the league. I'm not

922
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Speaker 1: talking about right now. I'm talking about the rest of

923
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924
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925
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929
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Speaker 1: I agree, Thank you. So I was asking Kyle. Jeez,

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Speaker 1: final preseason game against the Jacksonville Jaguars as the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: felt again Owen four in the preseason Heck, I'll let

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Speaker 1: you start things off. What was your biggest takeaway from

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Speaker 1: at and T Stadium? Well, I mean I took away

1003
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Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence is going to be a problem for

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Speaker 1: a lot of years. Um, just by his ball location. Um,

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Speaker 1: I thought defensively, it was a trip to see them

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Speaker 1: any of ours, then I was like, well, this is

1009
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Speaker 1: just going to be that kind of preseason where we

1010
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Speaker 1: don't get a look at any of our guys on well,

1011
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: our stars on offense. And you know, look, man, it

1012
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: was just one of those games that you were glad

1013
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Speaker 1: that it was over and we didn't have a whole

1014
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Speaker 1: lot of significant injuries. But as far as the game itself,

1015
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Speaker 1: guys like Burton, I figured it was gonna be a

1016
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Speaker 1: long day for him today once I saw him compete

1017
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Speaker 1: and that he got burnt a couple of times. So

1018
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Speaker 1: it was hard to watch. Yeah, it was, wasn't it. Yeah?

1019
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: I was watching Fijoco and Turner that that's where my

1020
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Speaker 1: eyes were, and obviously in the back of a quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: I think it based upon that game. In the game's

1022
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Speaker 1: previous what do you think I think Turner solidified his spot. Yeah,

1023
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Speaker 1: what about Double G? Did you thought Double G did

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Speaker 1: pretty I thought he did pretty well. I mean he

1025
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Speaker 1: did pretty well, but but by doing well you show

1026
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Speaker 1: your inconsistency. It was a double sword sword for him.

1027
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Speaker 1: It sucked, doubled down on bad. I know it right,

1028
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Speaker 1: there's no it was a no win situation situation fro him. Yeah.

1029
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Speaker 1: I think by that point it had already been It

1030
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Speaker 1: was pretty up. Yeah. Yeah. So what did you see

1031
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Speaker 1: from the offense? Like you said, it's really hard to

1032
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Speaker 1: gauge whenever they're throwing the ones at you defensively, and

1033
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Speaker 1: then Cooper Rush is having a run with the twos

1034
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Speaker 1: and the threes. But the seventy five yard touchdown drive

1035
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Speaker 1: prior to the half was probably the best thing that

1036
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys did on offense all day. What did you

1037
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Speaker 1: see that went well in that drive? And I think

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Speaker 1: back to it now, Um yeah, come back to me, robot,

1039
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Speaker 1: which drive? The touchdown drive? The Garret Gilbert one, I

1040
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Speaker 1: mean I thought he showed pretty good pois. I mean,

1041
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Speaker 1: I thought he bounced back in that game. I think

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Speaker 1: though the Cowboys probably had already made the decision at

1043
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Speaker 1: that point though. Um nothing really stood out to me

1044
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Speaker 1: about the offense in that game. The thing that stood

1045
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Speaker 1: out to me the most was the linebacker depth on

1046
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Speaker 1: this team is really really good, really good like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Leu Gifford makes this team, dude, but

1048
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Speaker 1: he flies around. He was flying around. Jabille Cox had

1049
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Speaker 1: another good game. I thought Hamilton had a good game.

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Speaker 1: Hamilton like that's That's another thing. The defensive front, you

1051
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: got to see a lot of Justin Hamilton, Bradley and

1052
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: I Rondo Carter, and I'd like their performances. Like I

1053
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: thought there's some depth there that now the reports are,

1054
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, Rondo Carter not making this team at least initially,

1055
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: but they've got some or they at least they've had

1056
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: some some nice young depth on the defensive front as

1057
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: well as linebacker. Carter was the one that got in

1058
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: on the interception for mcquamu. Right, it was Carter in

1059
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: the big hit on the quarterback. Ball kind of popped

1060
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: up in the air and mcquamo took advantage and got up.

1061
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: I was watching him as well. He's had some good

1062
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: plays and he has some some hesitant, some hesitant player.

1063
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: Was one play in the third quarter, specifically, they were

1064
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: Jacksonville was inside the red zone and there was a run.

1065
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: I can't remember who the tailback was and mcquamu had

1066
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: the best position. He was right on top of it

1067
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: and he stepped to the side, and it was I

1068
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: got back to our conversations on this show, and I

1069
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: was like, man, I was like, that was that was

1070
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: one where I wanted him to step up into the

1071
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: hole and and he didn't. Yeah, I know, I got

1072
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: my my Kuombo pump pumps over here. I'm hoping that too.

1073
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hopeful for the man. You know, I

1074
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: love the skill set, but god, dog man, it was

1075
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: a couple of It was a couple and it's been

1076
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: a whole preseason for the rookie h the inconsistency, but

1077
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: there was something I mean, and you know Isaiah, in

1078
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: preseason guys, it's if they're not showing a lot. And

1079
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: and when I saw there was one play that he made.

1080
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: He came on a blitz and blitz and he had

1081
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: a sack. To me, that showed his value. When you

1082
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: have a six four, a six four safety blitz in

1083
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback his height, and I know you talk about

1084
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: throwing lanes and stuff like that, but when you got

1085
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: a six four guy right in your line of sight,

1086
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: that's impactful. And it showed his value. Um and we

1087
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: talked about that as well. His ability to come over

1088
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: a slot receiver. It's the attack red zone they had

1089
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: him playing. He was playing the nickel in the red

1090
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: zone six four in the reds I mean in the slot.

1091
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: That's that's a huge advantage for it for defenses. Man.

1092
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: But if they if they lead with him in that

1093
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: role then yeah, but putting him back at safety where

1094
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: his where he's actually his position is right now, I

1095
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: don't see it, but then you have to is he

1096
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: a safety slash corner? I mean, you know, like what

1097
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: is he? Yeah, Todd Archers asked me in the press box,

1098
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: like how much slot did he play in camp? And

1099
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember him done a lot that much. I

1100
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: don't think he played any slot quite a bit on someday,

1101
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: and he did some of the games the last two,

1102
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: the last few games. Yeah, that could be. I don't

1103
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: think he did a whole lot. Can't though, Like from

1104
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: what I had charted, I don't really think there was

1105
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: any times that I saw him practice either, but but

1106
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: that was something he started. They can't. I mean, yeah, Oxnard, uh,

1107
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: like you said, former corner kind of you know, can

1108
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: play both spots. And the fact that you know, if

1109
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: Darian Thompson has released here. I think that means he's

1110
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: on He's on the fifty three. Does it make you

1111
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 1: feel better about the Mukuamo situation that you've now seen

1112
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: Kaz and Hooker both on the field at the safety spot,

1113
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: and you still feel pretty good about Donovan Wilson. I

1114
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: think I don't think Mkuamo is a safety right now.

1115
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: I think it's a developmental safety. But I think his

1116
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: most his greatest impact right now is yeah, you're nickel.

1117
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: He's a nickel guy for you. Yeah. It may not

1118
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: be active on game days. Yeah, he's probably not gonna

1119
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: be active on game days to start. I mean, but

1120
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: the ability to bring him in, I mean, you're about

1121
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: to Obviously he wouldn't play in a Tampa game if

1122
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: he makes a roster, but you you're about to face Tampa.

1123
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: These boys are big. They're huge everywhere. You don't say so, Yeah,

1124
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: I mean Mike Evans man and man with Anthony Brown

1125
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: and yeah so no. So look here's here's no he's no,

1126
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing that. I just hitt on it. No,

1127
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm just I just feel like Mukuamo is your future.

1128
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that if you I think

1129
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: he's a guy that if you invest then that he

1130
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: could be there. He could be there for you. But

1131
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm always reminded man Mickey Specknola, what time we were

1132
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: having a debate and he goes, we're talking about how

1133
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: how Clinton Dix and he goes, he's a bridge player.

1134
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 1: He's an ultimate bridge player. And we've had these guys

1135
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: that have been bridge players. And I think Hooker and

1136
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: because he may be a little bit outside of the

1137
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: box on your so called bridge players, and I think

1138
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: they could be more than that, but you just don't

1139
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: know yet. No, that's very well, could go bridge players,

1140
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: but at the moment, you want them to not be

1141
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: You want them to be your future there. If they

1142
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: play up to the talent level that they've shown prior

1143
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: in their careers and prior to injury issue, that's a

1144
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: big that's a big oh if you're going into raved James, huge,

1145
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: if yes, you are. So. Safety positions still a topic

1146
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: of conversation Rob over the next couple of days, what

1147
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: could we expect to see in terms of more roster movement,

1148
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: because we don't come back till Thursday, and Thursday, by

1149
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna start previewing the Tampa Bay game,

1150
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: because we've only got two episodes left after this one

1151
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: before the Tampa Bay kickoff. Wow oh wow, We've got Thursday,

1152
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: and we've got Tuesday and then it's kickoff, so we

1153
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: only have two more talking cowboys. So what which chess

1154
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: is next Tuesday? Uh? Yeah, yeah, Say It with the

1155
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: Chess will be Tuesday. I look forward to winning Christmas

1156
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: trees and more money out of the stand Back Trust

1157
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: this year. It's gonna be awesome time he wants to

1158
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 1: take money on my kids. Say it with your chest, Well,

1159
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: say it with your chess. We'll start Tuesday, but we

1160
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 1: also have a Friday show next week too, Okay, okay,

1161
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: so we'll have to say it with Chess Friday too.

1162
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: So when's our next show too? It's Thursday, Thursday. Well,

1163
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: we'll know the practice squad by Thursday. For the most part,

1164
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: they're supposed to. I think they're supposed to get back

1165
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: to work Thursday in practice. So finally we'll have something

1166
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: else talk about there. But again, like I mentioned in

1167
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: the second segment, they've got to figure out who's going

1168
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: to IR and all that stuff. We'll have a better

1169
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: idea of and pup and all that by Thursday as

1170
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: well as Mike McCarthy said there guys on COVID list

1171
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: should be back in the building by Thursday. Of everything,

1172
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: um keeps going the way it is right now, which

1173
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 1: is which is good news. Yeah, hopefully that's the case

1174
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: moving forward and that the Cowboys don't have to handle

1175
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: that as much as they have in the past. But

1176
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: early or We've got about three minutes left on the show.

1177
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: I want to give I want to give grades. I

1178
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: know you guys hate doing this, but I'm gonna do

1179
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: it anyways. I want your preseason grade for the Dallas Cowboys. ABCDE.

1180
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: I guess no will E, but f ABC DF. Isaiah,

1181
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: I'll start with you. That's tough. What's your grade for

1182
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? And in the preseason alone, not even talking

1183
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: off season. So just based off of what you saw

1184
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: in the games, games in practice, we could we could

1185
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: throw them both in there, whole team. Who comes to Washington,

1186
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: Chris apam ce see, yeah, okay, pretty straightforward. Passing in

1187
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: high school not passing in grad school. Okay, we know, Isaiah,

1188
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: grade's tough. It does we did. We did those grades

1189
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: last year and we never heard the end of it.

1190
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: For being too easy, you know, because because I I

1191
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: literally didn't see any I don't know what Dak is

1192
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: gonna play like on Thursday, and that's a big question

1193
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: mark for me. Um. I didn't see some of the

1194
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: roster moves that I thought would take place. During OTA's

1195
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: and also doing training camp. Um, I saw the defensive

1196
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: line come together, and I'm most excited about the defensive line.

1197
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins. I hate that, you know, he got on

1198
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: the list, but he's shown enough for me to think

1199
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: that he would be a guy. But I gotta I

1200
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: gotta go see too, because I don't know enough about

1201
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: my offensive line. I don't know enough about my quarterbacks.

1202
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: I just there's a lot of question marks there. So

1203
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to see. I'll give it a D because

1204
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: of the offensive line. It scares me. Scares me a

1205
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: lot actually, because yeah, yeah, you're right, because I am.

1206
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: I feel I feel a lot better about this defense,

1207
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: and I don't feel much better about this offense a

1208
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: whole lot right now. And they've rested a bunch of guys.

1209
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: That's fine, I'm okay with that. I'm not doing it

1210
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: because of that, I'm saying, because of what I've seen

1211
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: in practice, it doesn't necessarily bode welled for this offense. Well,

1212
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: then let me go get my cupcakes and my smelly

1213
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: stickers and put them right on the table here. I'm

1214
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: gonna I will say b because I would give the defense.

1215
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: I would hang on. Let me I would give the

1216
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: defense an a off of based off of last year

1217
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: to when we saw over five weeks, I had very encouraging.

1218
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's going to carry over to the

1219
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: regular season. They're gonna be a top five defense. I

1220
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: don't know that, but I'm just saying, well we saw

1221
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: over five weeks was very encouraging based off of last year,

1222
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: despite you know, a big injury to Gallimore for a

1223
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: few weeks and all that. Offensively, they had so much

1224
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: non continuity because of Dak being out and guys being

1225
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: in out of lineup. To me, that's like almost an

1226
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: incomplete So what what game was there? An a what

1227
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: do you mean one game they barely played their starters

1228
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: and those preseason games, I mean two games they didn't

1229
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: play at all, and then we saw very little of

1230
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: it against uh in the in the middle two games

1231
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: in the dress rehearsal game against Houston, they were over

1232
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: ten giving up on third down defense? Pretty good. I

1233
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: know it's Houston, but I mean pretty good. That's not

1234
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: just style pee. We're gonna we're gonna revisit this on Thursday.

1235
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: I think feel do you guys feel bad about the defense? Guy,

1236
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad at all. I don't feel like

1237
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: because A would mean that you feel good. I mean

1238
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: A in terms of progress, not in terms of like talent. Yeah, not, Yeah,

1239
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't expect them to be on the curb. Isaiah, Okay,

1240
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna call it that, fine, we'll call it. We'll

1241
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, you're inspired. I'm inspired. You're inspired. Yes, Yeah,

1242
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: that's fair. Tony Robbins seminar. I can get. I can

1243
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: get with the inspiration. Okay, I'm fired, and I'm looking

1244
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: forward to seeing what we have. I didn't. I didn't

1245
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: make about a ranking, right, That's why I gave se

1246
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: because I'm like, see they're passing. This is why we

1247
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: don't know. We don't know yet. This is why Rob

1248
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 1: hates doing these grades, because he knows no matter which

1249
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: way he goes, he's gonna get. Ye. I'm not getting

1250
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: an apple man not getting an apple from the tea

1251
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna get berated either way, but that's gonna do

1252
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: it for us here on Talking Cowboys. Be sure to

1253
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: join us on Thursday, eleven am Central Time as we

1254
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: begin looking ahead season. It'll be a week out from

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