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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: It's still live on a reaction Monday edition of the program,

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Speaker 2: merely Bo the great z Fresh off the plane, Buddy,

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Speaker 2: middle of the night. Yeah, landing back in paratroops. I

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Speaker 2: missed you greatly. You had I don't know how much

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Speaker 2: we want to share, but you had a once in

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Speaker 2: a lifetime encounter. I don't know when we want to

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Speaker 2: get into that. That's probably later today.

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Speaker 3: At some point we be not a ton of joy

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Speaker 3: today and then that that will be joyce. I've got

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Speaker 3: to somehow get it to Gibbe though, so that he

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Speaker 3: can play the audience. So maybe we'll talk about it today, Gibbe,

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Speaker 3: and then I'll ge you and then we'll be able

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Speaker 3: to play it. What do you say, You have to

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Speaker 3: email it to you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, email is what he said. That's means of disc.

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Speaker 3: It's also the Hoff's birthday today.

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Speaker 4: We can't be sad about that.

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Speaker 2: Is he coming on with us on his birthday on

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Speaker 2: his birthday birthday. Oh my gosh, what a hero, What

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Speaker 2: a hero, what a hero a birthday hoffness? All right,

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Speaker 2: I love it, fantastic.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: Let me let's from my vantage point versus yours. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco should be the dude the rest of the way.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: That that's Uncle Bo's opinion. That might not be the

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Speaker 2: opinion of Kevin Stefanski. My not be the opinion of you, sir.

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Speaker 2: He made a bad decision in a tough spot.

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Speaker 4: But oh it's not the reason the Browns.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I know, I know, I know for sure, for sure,

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Speaker 2: But you're gonna come back that like that's a tough

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Speaker 2: it's a tough pick in that moment.

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Speaker 4: Twenty to nineteen. He's good.

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Speaker 2: You said you looked good in practice out there when

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Speaker 2: you were boots on the ground in southern California. The

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Speaker 2: first drive was a thing of beauty. I feel like

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Speaker 2: he is a professional quarterback in every possible sense of

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Speaker 2: the word. I think he is your best chance to

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs, which we stated as a stated goal

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Speaker 2: of this operation is to make the playoffs. You have

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Speaker 2: three games on this schedule that if you get, if

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Speaker 2: you get quarterback play like the quarterback play you got

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Speaker 2: on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I think you win.

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Speaker 2: That puts you at ten and you're in and that's

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Speaker 2: the stated goal. That's where I stand watching what I

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Speaker 2: saw yesterday.

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Speaker 3: My friend agreed, and I think it's honestly organizational malfeasance

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Speaker 3: around the National Football League like that. Just Ty and

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Speaker 3: call him immediately. When Aaron Rodgers went down, they'd probably

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Speaker 3: be a playoff team.

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Speaker 4: They would one undred percent. There's a there's no question.

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Speaker 4: It's that's crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: Vikings or another one once Kirk like, the Browns got

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Speaker 3: very very lucky that they were able to get Joe

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Speaker 3: Flacco in here. I'm not in the business, you know.

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Speaker 3: I like dtr and I think that he offers something different.

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Speaker 3: Is he going to be as a professional of a quarterback. No,

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Speaker 3: but he does offer that extra dimension with his legs,

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Speaker 3: and we've seen him play well. You know, the last

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Speaker 3: three drives he had for the Cleveland Browns were three

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Speaker 3: scoring drives against the Denver Broncos. So I could see

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Speaker 3: it going either way. I totally understand why it makes

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Speaker 3: perfect sense if they say Joe Black. Of course, the

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Speaker 3: thing is we need our defense to regain its form.

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Speaker 3: That is that has been the biggest problem of the

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Speaker 3: last two games. And and you know, but Flacco, yes,

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Speaker 3: it was great frame given my given my role, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's easier for you to say your.

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Speaker 2: Uncle bo talking about this is not organizationally, this is.

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Speaker 3: I would be I would be very pleased if it's

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco. And then as I said, I do like

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Speaker 3: dtr and I certainly believe in him, and I thought

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Speaker 3: he got better. But Joe Flacco on the first drive,

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Speaker 3: so our booth in Sofi is basically right over where

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Speaker 3: the Browns came out the Browns tunnel, so corner of

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Speaker 3: the end zone, and the first drive, the third down

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Speaker 3: that he threw to Amari was the ball went basically

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Speaker 3: it was just an absolute rope that like when DPJ

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Speaker 3: or like the deep one Deshan threw to Amari against Arizona.

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Speaker 4: It was like that.

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Speaker 3: It was just on the screws perfect and then they

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Speaker 3: where we're getting those stretches? And I said, look for

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Speaker 3: take our shot. And we did that and I had

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Speaker 3: a great time with my buddies from Australia.

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Speaker 2: Was the great documentarian was back. So I saw the events.

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Speaker 3: Those guys were epic and so they have a bunch

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Speaker 3: of it was him and three of his mates, three

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, they're mates and blokes. We need to

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Speaker 4: use them. They're dropping Sheila all over the place. You

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Speaker 4: would have been it was. It was so good.

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Speaker 2: So I should have paratrooped in just for Saturday. For

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Speaker 2: that was Friday night, Saturday night, Friday, Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: Because Gibby was regarding probably, I say, how good was

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Speaker 3: Friday night with the Australians?

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Speaker 6: Such a good time. Friday was great. Saturday not so great.

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Speaker 6: Friday was Saturday.

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Speaker 4: And go, well, forgive me get what happens?

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Speaker 3: What you you get back on that horse, Gibbe, you

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Speaker 3: get back on that horse and your rie. They had

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Speaker 3: an expression that I used in the broadcast after I

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Speaker 4: Set a trap, catch a rabbit. Love it, love it.

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Speaker 4: Set a trap, catch a rabbit. I love that.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's good, So I used, I said, after you

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Speaker 3: know all that, I said, we come. I knew the

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Speaker 3: play action child was coming. Kevin's fans.

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Speaker 2: Set a trap, caught a rabbit. Rabbit's good. That is good.

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Speaker 3: And there they're Brisbane right, Brisbane were from Brisbane to

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Speaker 6: Those guys are on the greatest road trip week of

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: So they came in Friday. That was their first night

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Speaker 4: The morning we shut the bar dout. They're not going

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Speaker 4: left the two and they with my with my lady.

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Speaker 3: Well you left, and then Dabo checked out early.

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Speaker 6: To content and production people who will remain nameless. Also

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Speaker 6: quite nicely, you got to.

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Speaker 4: Quite honestly.

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Speaker 6: Before to oh okay, okay, no, no, no, no, I'm a professional.

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Speaker 4: I stayed till two o'clock.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then found a fantastic late night

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Speaker 4: Was regaling with the tails of his pizza.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, those guys, those are great. That was a

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Speaker 3: which they had so many expressions that were just like,

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Speaker 3: like Gibbe, when Gibbe he's like keeping me down.

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Speaker 4: They said, it's because he just doesn't want to pump

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Speaker 4: your tires. Mate, God, that's good. Yeah, I like him.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is good.

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Speaker 2: And I really think when we take this show.

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Speaker 3: When we when we got out, they were like they're like, mate, mate,

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Speaker 3: rolling out the red carpet. But like they were, they

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Speaker 3: Friday with Us, Saturday Night Lakers after and they were

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Speaker 3: all day Saturday into.

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Speaker 4: The Lakers, Sunday Browns.

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Speaker 3: Now they're flying to Vegas golfing and going to see

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Speaker 3: Garth Brooks, which they were.

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Speaker 4: Fired up about. The greatest week ever.

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Speaker 2: Great week that is good.

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Speaker 3: Diabo Dabo had so Dabo is the number two caller,

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Speaker 3: which is what they call play by play guys for

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Speaker 3: all of the NRL, the National yeah rugby league. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so he's the number two guy, like in all he

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Speaker 3: does most of his game, he does, you know, he

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Speaker 3: said he does about eighty percent of the Broncos games,

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Speaker 3: but most so he does everything. So this is their

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Speaker 3: off season. He just had twins that I think are

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Speaker 3: him go. He said, just tremendous by her. What a woman,

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Speaker 3: and she what is sheila? And she after it. So

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Speaker 3: he's we FaceTime. Heer from the bar and she's just

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Speaker 3: In it she goes, look, I know you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: a great time. I don't need to know all about it.

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Speaker 3: I don't need it all in What a job out

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Speaker 3: of her though, I don't need all in my face.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just go enjoy herself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see when you get back back and here.

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Speaker 4: And get ready. That's the way that goes. Get ready.

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Speaker 2: You were talking about the defense has to get better.

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Speaker 4: It does it does?

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Speaker 5: Bo.

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Speaker 2: Look, we are about at a point where the amount

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Speaker 2: of injuries we have and we may already be there.

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Speaker 2: Quite honestly, is too much to overcome. This isn't about excuses.

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Speaker 2: This is about reality. Amari went down in this game.

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Speaker 2: If you do not have Denzel Ward and you have

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Speaker 2: Miles with one arm, which is what this is, you're

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Speaker 2: not whole. You're not And so like next guy up,

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Speaker 2: isn't an All Pro Denzel was before missing the last

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Speaker 2: few games. Then Denzel Ward was on paced to be

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Speaker 2: like an All Pro player. Yes, Miles was on pace

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Speaker 2: to be Defensive Player of the Year before this injury.

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Speaker 2: So like that, if they're not there, well they got's

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Speaker 2: a game wreck.

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Speaker 4: And they kept us in nickel.

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Speaker 3: And what they did was they went at Mike Ford,

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Speaker 3: who was a career special teams player. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: got his first interception obviously against Like that's where Odell

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Speaker 3: got him in that game against the Ravens, right, So

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Speaker 3: that's kind of what they did.

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Speaker 4: They are say, Okay, here's the weak spot.

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Speaker 3: What we need though, is I still think was Zadarius

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Speaker 3: and Obo and Dalvin, like, we have guys who can

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Speaker 3: make playces. We didn't make a play as a defense.

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Speaker 3: We had one tackle for loss in the entire game.

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Speaker 3: We had zero sacks, zero takeaways.

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Speaker 4: I had our defense in fantasy goose egg goose, but

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Speaker 4: don't but there was there was nothing. They did nothing.

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Speaker 3: They did not make a single play, and that is

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Speaker 3: that's not what this defense is supposed to be. Matt

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Speaker 3: Stafford on the long touchdown caught us in our inverted

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Speaker 3: cover two. And what makes that tough in the middle

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Speaker 3: And Matt Stafford still can sling it quite frankly missed

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Speaker 4: It's more of that than the offense.

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Speaker 2: No, no, you're not. And because of everything that's happened

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Speaker 4: Even understand it. Think that's that was a horrible call.

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Speaker 2: They called it on Buttonio. It was what I was

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Speaker 4: Number one.

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Speaker 3: I would understand throwing a flag in that situation if

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Speaker 4: And they're trying to crack down on that. You saw

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Speaker 4: Penalties, four first quarter penalties, all on the defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So it's just it's the the there's some undisciplined stuff

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Speaker 2: We have to play clean, we have to play discipline,

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Speaker 3: If there was a poster that just had five people

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Speaker 3: Just unfortunately because offensive linemen don't necessarily joeln Tonio wouldn't necessarily.

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Speaker 4: Make it onto that poster you've got right now.

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Speaker 3: No, No Deshaun Watson, no Nick Chubb, Miles Garrett's banged up,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can only do so much.

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Speaker 3: You can't and you're yet You're still in it, you

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Speaker 4: But that is just you.

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Speaker 3: That's where you're trying to get off the field. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, So you look, you've got three. So you

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Speaker 2: But if you're healthy, you'll be favored in all three

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Speaker 4: And that was a state of goal.

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Speaker 2: When you think about the rash of injuries, it's happened here.

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Speaker 4: Get back to form.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we but do.

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Speaker 2: When tedzel Ward is playing a huge or when he's not,

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Speaker 2: and then Miles it's just good. It feels like for him,

442
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Speaker 2: it's just gonna be pain maintenance. Yeah, tolerance rather has

443
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Speaker 2: coach talked today Gibbe, he has, he did.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Okay, we're getting it. We're getting it right now.

445
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Speaker 8: We're gonna play at one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So there you go.

447
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Speaker 7: Perfect.

448
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Speaker 2: But the reality is that if the defense can get

449
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Speaker 2: back to what it was, and if those two come

450
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Speaker 2: back healthy, it will then to me, like I was

451
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Speaker 2: floor Tod, how capable Joe Flacco was and how good

452
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Speaker 2: he was for a guy who's been on the bench

453
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Speaker 2: for the entire season. You said it earlier, the notion

454
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Speaker 2: that the Jets didn't sign him week one, Why would

455
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Speaker 2: you not right now bring him back into your building?

456
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Speaker 4: Its mouth.

457
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Speaker 2: They would be a They would absolutely be in the

458
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Speaker 2: playoff mix.

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Speaker 4: He reached out to them, the second Rogers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there, their talent, the receivers, all the everything else

461
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Speaker 2: they have. Like he paratroops into that situation right now

462
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Speaker 2: and they're a playoff team.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was thrown down a ton, but he

464
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Speaker 3: threw for like three hundred yards three hundred yards. The

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Speaker 3: other thing too, that I would say for Joe Flacco

466
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Speaker 3: in the In the big picture of it, it allowed

467
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Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski to go back to a lot of the

468
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Speaker 3: stuff that he likes. I think in the solid offense

469
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Speaker 3: he likes to run is preferred. Harris and Bryant had

470
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Speaker 3: more catches in this game, or as many catches in

471
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Speaker 3: this game as he had in the entire season coming in.

472
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Speaker 3: He had a season hinh yards. Elijah had a season

473
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Speaker 3: high yards. It was a lot of that under center

474
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Speaker 3: play action stuff and quite frankly, very similar to what

475
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Speaker 3: the Rams did. Here's the other thing we didn't talk about.

476
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Speaker 3: There was something in this game plan for the Rams

477
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Speaker 3: that made them feel like we can run on the

478
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Speaker 3: edges of this team all game long. I think they

479
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Speaker 3: only had a couple of handoffs outside of the gold

480
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Speaker 3: to go situations that were kind of straight hand uffs

481
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Speaker 3: between the tackles. It was all outside runs, jet sweeps,

482
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Speaker 3: all of it, and they gashed us on those plays,

483
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Speaker 3: and then that would set up the fake toss boot

484
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Speaker 3: back the other way, and everybody's going over there and

485
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Speaker 3: you'd have easy pitches and catches. I thought it was

486
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Speaker 3: a pretty well done I thought it was a great

487
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Speaker 3: game by McVeigh and I thought that they out they

488
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Speaker 3: out executed us as well as at times it felt

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Speaker 3: like we're able to have the benefit of the doubt

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Speaker 3: in terms of what they were able to do from

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Speaker 3: a scheme standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Mcvay's really good, really, he really is. And I'm sure

493
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Speaker 2: the familiarity that Stafford has the Schwartz helped. Of course,

494
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Speaker 2: you know, they spent what first five years of Stafford's

495
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Speaker 2: career together, of course, was it nine or eight to

496
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Speaker 2: thirteen or something like that, So like there's a lot

497
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Speaker 2: of familiarity there and it came home to roost. And

498
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Speaker 2: so now you sit, uh where you are, and you've

499
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Speaker 2: got five left right, left, five left, yeah, five left,

500
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Speaker 2: So there's there's three that you're gonna be favored in

501
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Speaker 2: and you need to win those and if you do,

502
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Speaker 2: you're gonna make the postseason. Ten wins will do it. It's

503
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Speaker 2: it's absolutely gonna do with it that.

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Speaker 3: It just was unfortunate because you had already known the

505
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Speaker 3: Steelers had lost, oh my god, and you had a

506
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Speaker 3: chance to really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's why what I mean. It's twenty

508
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Speaker 2: to nineteen and you have the ball and you just

509
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Speaker 2: had a great drive and you think, Okay, go down

510
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Speaker 2: and score and let's go. That's it and you got

511
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Speaker 2: a chance. So that's the that's the thing that makes

512
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Speaker 2: it a little bit of a bitter pill to swallow here,

513
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Speaker 2: all right, Coming up next we will go over the

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Speaker 2: playoff picture in the AFC and NFC. Let you know

515
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Speaker 2: where we stand on all of this. We will have

516
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Speaker 2: coach Tdafanski as well coming up the Joe Thomas half

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Speaker 2: up being I mean, it's a twenty to nineteen game

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Speaker 2: with what five minutes to go? Yep, it ends up

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Speaker 2: being thirty six to nineteen is the is the final.

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Speaker 4: It was much closer than the score, tight the whole way.

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Speaker 4: It was in doubt the whole way.

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Speaker 2: And then you hit on something as in the previous segment,

536
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Speaker 2: the knowledge that Pittsburgh got slumped at home by Arizona.

537
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Speaker 2: You also had that. So then then you say, boy,

538
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Speaker 2: but now we can make up some ground here. You

539
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Speaker 2: get yourself to to eight and four all of a

540
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Speaker 2: sudden division. Yeah, and instead you know, you don't take

541
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Speaker 2: advantage of it.

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Speaker 4: So we we.

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Speaker 2: Said going on this West coast trip, you needed to

544
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Speaker 2: go one and one. Is really it when one of

545
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Speaker 2: these two games and it didn't happen. So the margin

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Speaker 2: is much thinner now, coupled with the injuries that just

547
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Speaker 2: continue to mount, and there's it's saggering. It's unbelievable how

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Speaker 2: one franchise could be so snake bitten.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it stinks. It's not very fun.

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Speaker 3: No, So I thought we were ahead of Indianapolis, but

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Speaker 3: I guess it really doesn't matter if you're in. You're

552
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Speaker 3: in six, seven, doesn't matter, you're gonna right now. The

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Speaker 3: Browns control their own destiny. They continue to win, they

554
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Speaker 3: will be in.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't we be ahead of Indy or what is it?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 8: So I was looking at this. There was a debate

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Speaker 8: on Twitter. Some places say we're six and some places

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Speaker 8: say we're seven because there's technically a three team tiebreaker

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Speaker 8: with US, Houston and Indianapolis. Oh that and our head

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Speaker 8: to head over Indy wouldn't count in a three way

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Speaker 8: tiebreaker for some reason. So I'm not sure which one's correct.

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Speaker 8: But the number I have on the sheet is from

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Speaker 8: NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Well they were seven, that would be the right one.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, yeah, so in the Conference one, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it has us a spot ahead of Houston. Of course

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Speaker 2: we play Houston in a couple of weeks. So the

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Speaker 2: good Lord, I mean, who would have had that there

570
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Speaker 2: could be three teams from the AFC South.

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Speaker 4: In the playoffs. Would not have had that. No, would not.

572
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Speaker 2: Have had that in any way, shape or form. So

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Speaker 2: that was the that's the tricky by the way, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know you guys are I don't know how

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Speaker 2: much you saw about what happened with Indy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that they missed the Tennessee miss extra point.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then you get and then they kicked the

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Speaker 2: field goal in overtime, and then Minchew hits the bomb,

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Speaker 2: Tennessee hits a field goal of like five minutes left

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Speaker 2: in overtime, and then Indy hits the bomb and then

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Speaker 2: a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: And then yeah to win it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's otherwise they're they're out of the mix

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Speaker 2: on that thing as well. And then Denver lurking there,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Buffalo lurking there at six and six at

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Speaker 2: the bottom and they're obviously dangerous, but their schedules brutal.

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Speaker 2: They still play Dallas. Uh, don't they play Kansas City too?

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Speaker 5: Still Buffalo?

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Speaker 4: How about the pack right now? Last night go peck go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I believe we had that. Another good week for the scores.

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Speaker 4: You were great.

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Speaker 5: I was good.

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Speaker 4: You were great, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean well, which I had somebody saying, you guys give

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Speaker 2: us the over unders.

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Speaker 4: How rich do we have to make you people?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I saw that.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with that more, like, man, this is

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Speaker 3: what we deal with. Come on, I think I have

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Speaker 3: let's say, did you have Like yeah, I do it

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Speaker 3: like eight and four.

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Speaker 4: Eight and four.

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Speaker 2: Yea, So it's just keep stacking them sacking. But that

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Speaker 2: this is this AFC picture is lunacy. Yeah, it's lunacy.

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Speaker 2: Pickett is down for a while. For Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is

608
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Speaker 2: just a this fraudulent team somehow Tomlin with a sorcery.

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Speaker 2: Miami is Gangbusters. But again when they played, yeah, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't transit, it doesn't go that way. Baltimore is sitting

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Speaker 2: there at ninety three, So goes Miami, Baltimore. Jacksonville is

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Speaker 2: eight and three. They played a night in Cincinnati. Kansas

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Speaker 2: City drops to eight and four, Pittsburgh is seven and four,

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Speaker 2: are they not? No, there're seven and five, Pittsburgh seven

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Speaker 2: and five. For some reason, you know you got it

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Speaker 2: seven to three, seven and five, Indy seven and five,

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Speaker 2: US seven and five, Houston seven and five, and then Denver.

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Speaker 4: Buffalo six and six.

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Speaker 2: That's where you stand in the AFCA, loaded and yet

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Speaker 2: not and yet not because you don't have Kansas City's

621
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Speaker 2: not whole. Buffalo's Bob. Buffalo could come out of the AFC, Yes, Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: But if they get in, yes, if they get in

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Speaker 2: as a seven, I would not want to play Houston

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Speaker 2: if you're even with the loss of Tank Dell yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I would not want to play Stroud the way you're.

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Speaker 3: A top four seed and you get Pittsburgh Indian what's

627
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Speaker 3: left of our football team? That feels like a pretty

628
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Speaker 3: good outcome of the top four seeds.

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Speaker 9: For sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they want a party.

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Speaker 3: They would all be Every home team would be well favored.

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Speaker 3: You did in that first.

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Speaker 2: Round, Buffalo is the seven. Would feel a lot like

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Speaker 2: the University of Michigan felt when Alabama's name popped up

635
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Speaker 2: and you heard the place go, oh, gotta be like,

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Speaker 2: they don't want to play Bama.

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Speaker 4: That no one's gonna want to play Buffalo. No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's in the NFC that that was candy from

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Speaker 2: a baby San Francisco big over Philly, Yes, the easiest

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Speaker 2: call every There's been a couple of those that we've seen,

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Speaker 2: and now Philly wounded a little bit. Detroit sits there

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Speaker 2: at nine and three. They got they got a nice

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Speaker 2: win in New Orleans and did get a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a cover. Dallas is sitting at nine and three,

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Speaker 2: but their schedule is brutal. They gotta play Philly, but

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Speaker 2: they're gonna play Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: They are in, but they're not going to be in

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Speaker 4: the It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess it does. It depends on what they

650
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Speaker 2: want to do.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna go.

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Speaker 3: They would rather play Atlanta. I mean, you want the

653
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: being the five seed in the NFC matters. They have

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Speaker 3: a three game on the five seed. You want to

655
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Speaker 3: be the five seed?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't five seed three.

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Speaker 3: In the AFC, seeds two, three, and four will all

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Speaker 3: be favored. The only possible exception is as Buffalo gets in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: In the NFC, the three and four, the two and

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Speaker 3: three will be favored, but the four will be an underdog.

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Speaker 3: The winner the NFC South will be an underdog in

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Speaker 3: the first round.

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Speaker 2: Significant probably, yeah, I mean if it's Atlanta, Dallas is

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Speaker 2: at nine and a half, ten and a half.

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Speaker 4: I mean when we gets the lines, it's gonna between

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Speaker 4: seven and ten. Yeah for sure, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: And then obviously you know that next group, that team

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Speaker 2: we just played and the Packers are much those are

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Speaker 2: the two teams I would be not crazy about. I

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Speaker 2: would not want to play green Bay. Green Bay just

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Speaker 2: beat Detroit and Kansas City back to back.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you we've been.

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Speaker 2: We've been on this for a while, Like they're good.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Love is, They're going to be just fine with

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Speaker 3: Jordan Love now that What do they got to get

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Speaker 3: him is some talent around him. Yesterday just fine with

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Speaker 3: him and he had it, finally had a decent game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The throw that he made high Watson went to high point,

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Speaker 2: went right over the defender's hat.

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Speaker 4: Last night.

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Speaker 2: Was no their problem? Yeah, yeah, they're they're absolutely a problem.

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Speaker 2: The Panthers are the only team to be eliminated at

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Speaker 2: this point. This a I mean, it's just you can't

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Speaker 2: do it. You can't do it to yourself because it's painful.

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Speaker 4: The if we needed to split one, we need to

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Speaker 4: split these games.

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Speaker 2: Do that even bigger one. And I don't like doing

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Speaker 2: this either, But this, if this was, if if we

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Speaker 2: were healthy this year.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, we'd be a super Bowl contender. Go win

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because even the ones that you were worried about,

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Speaker 2: even the coming out bills, the teams that are like, okay, god,

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Speaker 2: are we really even if DeShawn and your two like

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Speaker 2: could he get back? All the questions that we had

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Speaker 2: in camp, but that isn't you weren't playing those teams.

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Speaker 2: You weren't playing Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. You're not

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Speaker 2: playing you're not playing those teams.

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Speaker 3: But when we came out of the Baltimore game, when

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Speaker 3: Shawn just went fourteen for fourteen in the second half,

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Speaker 3: you felt like you could do it right there, just

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Speaker 3: because the way that the league is this year, Like

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Speaker 3: he's back. Okay, now we've got a guy who could

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Speaker 3: be a top five quarterback.

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Speaker 5: In the league.

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Speaker 3: And then you lost. You didn't even get to it.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have a week of that. No, it was

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Speaker 3: gone on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally wash.

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Speaker 3: So next week you've got just for people coming thinking

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Speaker 3: about it, Thursday night, Patriots at Steelers.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's it's unbelievab. That's one of the worst.

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Speaker 2: Games he's got to bounce out of that, doesn't he.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rams at Ravens, Colts at Bengals, which should have

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Speaker 3: been a game that the Colts, but the Cultu are

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Speaker 3: gonna be favored in that is it?

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Speaker 2: No, No, No Steelers or the Ravens Rams.

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Speaker 4: Ravens Rams is a good game.

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Speaker 3: Ravens are Ravens that'll be coming off of their by

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Speaker 3: Texans get the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Bill's Chiefs Broncos Chargers.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Chargers suck, yeah, but they scored six

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Speaker 2: points in New England. Unbelievable six points incompetent team.

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Speaker 3: My point there is we have by far the top

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Speaker 3: of his game in the AFC playoff picture next week, right,

728
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Speaker 3: we get the Jags. Everybody else that's around, well, the

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Speaker 3: Dealers get the Patriots, but they're below, they're beneath, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the colt should beat the Bengals in Cincy,

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Speaker 3: and the Texans should beat the Jets in New York.

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Speaker 4: We could be if we don't win this week, and

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Speaker 4: we're certainly not. I don't think we're predicted to. There's

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Speaker 4: no way we're favored.

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Speaker 3: If we don't work, we're going to be outside looking

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Speaker 3: in and then you need some help. But to your point,

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Speaker 3: we should win three of our last four.

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Speaker 2: Yes, ten and ten.

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Speaker 4: I believe it.

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Speaker 2: Ten will do it, and we'll do it. Ten will

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Speaker 2: absolutely do it. So here's the here's the problem too,

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Speaker 2: when you think about this big picture wise, so we

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Speaker 2: can all agree that of the teams below, Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Den I'm sorry, Buffalo is the most dangerous.

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Speaker 4: By a second, may as well be eighth.

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Speaker 2: Houston's eighth. Whoever, that is Houston's eighth. With that kid,

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Speaker 2: you know he's going to lead the league in passing.

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Speaker 2: He's the first rookie to lead the league in passing

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Speaker 2: yardage this far into the season since nineteen fifty.

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Speaker 4: So it's nineteen fifty fifty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fined and lost Tank Dell in the game yesterday,

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Speaker 2: didn't matter, Nico Collins at one hundred and seventy or whatever.

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Speaker 5: And it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna get Nooel Brown back. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Buffalo is six and six. They're at Kansas City

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Speaker 2: this week, which is now a huge game for Kansas

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Speaker 2: City too.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to want to lose again.

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Speaker 2: Then Dallas at home, yep, Then at Chargers, New England

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Speaker 2: at home at Miami.

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Speaker 4: That's their last five. They're gonna be favored in two

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Speaker 4: of those.

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Speaker 2: Unless Miami's playing for nothing, correct, that'd be it.

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Speaker 4: But Miami playing for nothing because they're probably playing for the.

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Speaker 3: For the one seed against or or they could be

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Speaker 3: playing to keep them out.

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Speaker 2: And not have to deal with them. Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 2: because they could be the seven. So I guess my

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Speaker 2: point is, like it's really hard to get Buffalo to ten.

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Speaker 2: Because they're six and six. Yeah, they're not going four

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Speaker 2: and one. No, they're probably going.

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Speaker 4: Three and two.

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Speaker 2: So they may have dug too deep of a hole here.

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Speaker 2: The rest of us all get to take care of

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Speaker 2: our business.

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Speaker 4: We would like to take care of our business. We

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Speaker 10: Okay, obviously disappointed in the result yesterday. Got a look

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Speaker 10: at a lot of things that we have to clean

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Speaker 10: up offensively, defensively, special team so.

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Speaker 7: You can get a win on the road in that environment,

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Speaker 7: and so we didn't get it done. So that's the

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Speaker 7: disappointing part.

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Speaker 10: We're going to look at it with the players and

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Speaker 10: talk about ways to improve, obviously, but as we all know,

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Speaker 10: we get an AFC opponent at our place this Sunday,

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Speaker 10: so that's what we'll work hard this week to improve

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Speaker 10: some of those things. Injury front, no real updates for

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Speaker 10: you guys. We'll see how this week goes. But with that,

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Speaker 10: I'll take any questions.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Kevin, I guess the obvious question here is have

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Speaker 11: you given more thought to what you'll do at the

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Speaker 11: quarterback position and if Joe Flaggo might be your starter

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Speaker 11: on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not going to get into those type of things.

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Speaker 7: One Monday. We'll work through that.

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Speaker 11: And then obviously with your receiver position and the lack

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Speaker 11: of clarity on Amar. What do you think about some

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Speaker 11: of the guys, Like, obviously Elijah had a big game,

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Speaker 11: but then he got said David Bell got some playing time.

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Speaker 11: How important is it for those guys to step up

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Speaker 11: if he has to miss some time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's what it is, step up.

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Speaker 10: You know some guys, when you lose a player, it

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Speaker 10: opens up opportunities for other guys.

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Speaker 7: Said, got some opportunities.

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Speaker 10: Obviously Elijah slid into some of Amar's role, and that's

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Speaker 10: why it's really important for all of our.

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Speaker 7: Players to be ready to step in in any role.

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Speaker 10: Sometimes you're playing out a position, so to speak, so

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Speaker 10: those guys have to be ready to roll.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Kevin, I know you don't really want to get

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Speaker 12: into this right now, but can you just talk a

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Speaker 12: little bit about how, you know, how did you think

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Speaker 12: that Joe functioned and just in terms of operationally and

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Speaker 12: you know kind of maybe you know, calming the waters,

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Speaker 12: getting some guys involved, like Harrison. Maybe Elijah seemed to

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Speaker 12: come alive a little.

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Speaker 7: Bit with Joe.

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Speaker 12: So just you know a little bit about some of

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Speaker 12: that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think you're right, Mary Kay. Operationally, I thought

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Speaker 10: Joe did a nice job. We were sharp getting in

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Speaker 10: and out of the huddle. We weren't perfect. There were

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Speaker 10: a few things that we did alignment wise that weren't great.

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Speaker 10: But I thought Joe did a nice job in the

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Speaker 10: huddle what you'd expect from, you know, a veteran like Joe.

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Speaker 12: How about getting you know, I mean, it seemed like,

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Speaker 12: you know, he tried to get a lot of guys involved,

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Speaker 12: and it seemed like everybody was into it and alive,

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Speaker 12: and you know, like I said, Elijah Harrison, how about

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Speaker 12: some of spreading the ball around like that?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we had nine guys with receptions, Mary kay,

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Speaker 10: and I think if we're doing our job, that should

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Speaker 10: be what it is, because the ball always goes where

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Speaker 10: the ball goes based on the defense. So I thought

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Speaker 10: Joe got through progressions. Like you mentioned, Elijah oftentimes was

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Speaker 10: first in progression and made some nice plays and then

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Speaker 10: got through it and really found a bunch of guys

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Speaker 10: in the past game.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Kevin, is Dorian still in the protocol?

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Speaker 7: He is? Okay?

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Speaker 13: And another Joe question, and I'm sure this is how

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Speaker 13: he played through his career, But he looked pretty fearless,

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Speaker 13: you know, not trying not afraid to throw it in

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Speaker 13: tight windows and take some chances.

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Speaker 7: Do you like that?

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Speaker 13: Do you like that confidence with him throwing the ball?

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Speaker 10: Well, first thing I point out, Scott, I thought protection

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Speaker 10: was excellent. I know they had two sacks late in

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Speaker 10: that game, you know, down two scores, that type of thing.

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Speaker 10: But I thought, with the offensive line, with the running

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Speaker 10: backs understanding our the protection plan I think was really solid.

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Speaker 10: So Joe had good, good pocket to step up and

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Speaker 10: make decisions like that. You know, to your point about

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Speaker 10: making aggressive throws, I think all of all quarterbacks kind

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Speaker 10: of know themselves and what throws they can make and

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Speaker 10: what windows they can fit it in too. And when

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Speaker 10: you feel confident, you let it rip, and when it's

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Speaker 10: not there, you move on and you try to find

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Speaker 10: a completion elsewhere.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Kevin, I wanted to ask you about the defense.

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Speaker 14: You made an interesting decision with two and a half

882
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 14: to play, three timeouts, two minut a warning, you went

883
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 14: forward on fourth down instead of playing field position game.

884
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 7: Do you get the.

885
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 14: Sense, you know Denzel not playing in the last two weeks,

886
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 14: Miles is trying to play through his injury. Is that

887
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 14: side of the ball starting to wear down?

888
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 7: No, I wouldn't say that.

889
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 10: I think you know, those decisions in game are always

890
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 10: just based on what you think is best in that moment. Obviously,

891
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 10: there's things that we can do better on defense. We

892
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 10: know that there's plays that we can clean up, and

893
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 10: that's really our focus. Our focus is finding those ways

894
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 10: in game to make a play here and there.

895
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 7: You know, credit to the Rams, they did a nice job.

896
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 10: We really got our hands on really one throw by

897
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 10: Stafford there down in the red zone, but he took

898
00:39:59,320 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 10: care of the ball.

899
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 7: They got the ball out quickly.

900
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Speaker 10: And then there's plays that we feel like we can

901
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 10: do a better job. We can and that's what we're

902
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 10: gonna do. We're gonna identify it and correct it this week.

903
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Speaker 14: And uh, you know with Miles and he's you know,

904
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Speaker 14: him playing with that injury. He didn't have a tackle yesterday,

905
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 14: and obviously he commands a tremendous amount of attention. When

906
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Speaker 14: you went back and looked at it, how much of

907
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 14: it was the attention that he was getting. And then

908
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 14: also how do you get the other guys to be

909
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 14: able to get home when he's being occupied.

910
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all part of it.

911
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 10: You know, Miles has gotten attention probably since the very

912
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 10: first snap of his career. That's just how it works.

913
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Speaker 10: Teams are always going to slide doing them. They're gonna

914
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 10: put tight ends over there running backs, and he knows

915
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Speaker 10: that he fights through it. They did a good job yesterday,

916
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 10: you know, tip your cap to them. And then it always,

917
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 10: as you know, it opens up plays for guys and

918
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Speaker 10: we expect them to make plays when they have a

919
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Speaker 10: one on one.

920
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Speaker 15: And Kevin from could you see from the film review

921
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 15: that that play with Ethan posted did.

922
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 7: He move the ball forward? And so you just had

923
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 7: to that part first.

924
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll get more clarification this week on that. Like

925
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 10: I mentioned to you guys, you know, we're not in

926
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Speaker 10: any way trying to move the ball to gain.

927
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Speaker 7: An advantage there.

928
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 10: I understand the officials have a very difficult job because

929
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 10: there is a heightened awareness of that play and sure

930
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 10: guards where the league really does not want the centers

931
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Speaker 10: to gain an undue advantage.

932
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 7: It's unfortunate.

933
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 10: I don't know that the movement of that ball was

934
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 10: much different than what's what Ethan does on a lot

935
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Speaker 10: of those snaps.

936
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Speaker 7: So I'll talk to the league about it again.

937
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 10: Disappointing frustrating, but we'll just play within the rules, whatever

938
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 10: they are.

939
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Speaker 15: And then secondly, when the game was still closed, it

940
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 15: seems there's imbalance of more passing than running. Was it

941
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 15: difficult to run the ball against the rams or how

942
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 15: did you see that?

943
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're I was just trying to move the ball

944
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 10: any which way we can. Felt like there were some

945
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 10: opportunities in the run game. I think it was tough

946
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 10: sledding early, but it opened up there in the second half,

947
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 10: and I think we'll just continue to look at ways

948
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 10: that we can be explosive as an offense.

949
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 16: Hey, Kevin, just another defensive question. I mean the last

950
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 16: two weeks, you guys have gone against these veteran quarterbacks

951
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 16: who have gotten the ball out really quickly. How has

952
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 16: that impacted the pass rushing, the numbers and in particularly

953
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 16: like obviously we see the sacks, but the pressure is

954
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 16: even and things like that.

955
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's nothing new, I would say, Ashley, for US

956
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 10: teams get the ball out quickly versus Miles Garrett, that's

957
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 10: something that is always going to be true.

958
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 7: So when there's opportunities, you know, we want to come through.

959
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 10: But we'll always just play the game based on what

960
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 10: the other side is doing yesterday, the ball was going

961
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 10: to come out quick. They weren't going to hold it

962
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 10: very often or very long. But we'll work through that,

963
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 10: like we have all season.

964
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 16: Is there anything you can do, because a couple of

965
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 16: guys talked about this, like you just kind of have

966
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 16: to keep being aggressively. Is that the case? You just

967
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 16: have to keep rushing as best you can and try

968
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 16: to make up those inches.

969
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 10: That's right, And I think you know you're close a

970
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 10: few times there, and as you know, close doesn't count.

971
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 7: But just keep applying pressure. We're always looking to apply pressure.

972
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 10: I know sacks is the thing that a lot of

973
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 10: times people get hung up on that number, but we're

974
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 10: trying to just apply pressure.

975
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 9: The quarterback goes through twelve games, your wide receivers have

976
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 9: only called three touchdowns, which is the same amount as

977
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 9: your backup tight end, and you're starting running back As

978
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 9: far as receptions, is this a schematic thing or is

979
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 9: this just an individual productivity thing? Or why is it

980
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 9: that that your touchdown receptions by receivers are so abnormally low?

981
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 5: Thank you?

982
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't there's nothing specific, Elvis that we're trying

983
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 10: to get the ball to a tight end or to

984
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 10: a running back over a wide receiver. We'll take touchdowns

985
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 10: any again, any which way we can get them. You know,

986
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 10: if that number, if we're leading the league and it's

987
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 10: all tight ends and running backs will take it. If

988
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 10: we're leading the league and it's wide receivers will take it.

989
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 10: We don't really think much about who those guys are.

990
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 10: We have a ton of faith in our guys. We

991
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 10: trust our guys. I trust our wide receiver room, our

992
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 10: tight end room. So we'll take touchdowns any which way

993
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 10: we can get them.

994
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, coach from the podium. This

995
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: will be an interesting week obviously from a health standpoint,

996
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: to see how this all shakes out. Yeah, one more, Yeah, nope, Yeah,

997
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: there you go, Come on one.

998
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 4: That wasn't me.

999
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 7: You know, it wasn't me.

1000
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 4: Where Shaggy they call him mister Boombastic.

1001
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need obviously, Denzel's the biggest one you're taking

1002
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: on a team coming in now the Jags with Calvin

1003
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: Ridley and Christian Kirk and Zay Jones and Evan Ingram

1004
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: and etn out of the backfield, they can spin it.

1005
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: You need to be we need to be at full

1006
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: strength on that back end, So that's probably the big one.

1007
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: And then Amari, you know, you trade DPJ and while

1008
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: he had not been incredibly productive in this offense, he

1009
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 3: is still very much a professional wide receiver. And you know,

1010
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: you think about we're trotting out there without Amari, Elijah

1011
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: Seder Tillman and David Bell. David Bell Exedrior Tillman don't

1012
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 3: have one hundred yards receiving this season this season, Nope,

1013
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: Harrison Brian doesn't even have one hundred yards this season,

1014
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: even though we had a big game this week. I

1015
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: do think it's interesting on the quarterback thing. I mean,

1016
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: I would imagine they've got a this isn't gonna be like, oh,

1017
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: let's see how they practice type of a situation.

1018
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 4: Maybe they want to talk.

1019
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: My guess is they don't like to announce things like

1020
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: that unless they talk to both guys.

1021
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but DTR is still in the protocol, so

1022
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 4: he should be in the building. So he's in the building,

1023
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 4: and I imagine Flaccoud for sure be in the building.

1024
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be a the other part of it

1025
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: in this case, one last little caveat. In this case,

1026
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: it is a stylistic and an offense. Your offense in

1027
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: the packages of what you'd have to prepare for is

1028
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: a defense are different.

1029
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 2: No doubt, it's a totally different the same.

1030
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: So if you if you're saying, we're not gonna say

1031
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: it because I want them to prepare for Joe Flacco

1032
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: and what we showed a little bit against the RAMS,

1033
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: and I want them to prepare for DTR and design

1034
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: quarterback sweeps and RPOs and read option plays. That doesn't

1035
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: make that actually doesn't make sense because it's not like

1036
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: in the past where it was with the SHAN or DTR,

1037
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: where you're or PJ, where you know you're running similar concepts.

1038
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: This would integrate, they would be separate concepts. There are

1039
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: parts of the playbook that in Joe Flacco's playbook that

1040
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: don't exist in the DTR playbook, and they're parts of

1041
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 3: the DTR playbook that certainly.

1042
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: Don't exist in the Joe Flacco playbook.

1043
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: So maybe that maybe I've had a Eureka moment, Maybe

1044
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 3: that's why we're playing Koy yes Bo.

1045
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: And I also think that's why what I started the

1046
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: start of the show with, because then just this is

1047
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: who we are, like if it is and this is

1048
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: me not obviously we just heard from coach, and I understand,

1049
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: but like for me, like if it's Flacco and I

1050
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: think what I saw from him yesterday was enough that

1051
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: I feel very confident, then then we then this is

1052
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: who the Cleveland Browns are for the rest of the season. Correct,

1053
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: and then you're not vacillating back in five. I don't

1054
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: think between any of that. I like, whatever it is,

1055
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 2: it would wherever they go with this week, like that's

1056
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: it period.

1057
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: I think that's right. Rest of the way.

1058
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: No, I think that's right, And I think that you

1059
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: would have you only have one week to kind of

1060
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: have that in play. Yeah, and by the way, this

1061
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: is the toughest opponent left on your schedule. Don't make

1062
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: sense to let that play out as long as it

1063
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: possible and then afterwards it'll be what it's going to be.

1064
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1065
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I thought he played well.

1066
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 4: I really did.

1067
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: I thought I thought he played well, and I think

1068
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: you can. I think you can get to ten wins

1069
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: with him.

1070
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we are going to need our defense to play.

1071
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean that to me is just

1072
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: went over it. Like I mean, I talked about this

1073
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: earlier in the show, but like the posts we put

1074
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: up on on Twitter of Flacco warming up, talking to Kareem,

1075
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: throwing to Kareem, and you're going these humans this they

1076
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: would have been being if I went to Greenbrier Nate

1077
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: and said, yeah, La, the warm up is going to

1078
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: be Flacco tossing it to Kareem.

1079
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 4: What at the Green Brier? Yeah, no chance? What are

1080
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 4: you talking about?

1081
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 7: What?

1082
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't even legalized in Ohio until just a month ago.

1083
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 4: How could you possibly.

1084
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: Think think exactly, how's that even possible? All Right, So

1085
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: we got the hoff coming up next on his birthday,

1086
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: on his birth the Joe Thomas Half Hour. What should

1087
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: we tell the should we do the this reveal now?

1088
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: I know we're going to play it later, but should

1089
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: we do the story now of how it happened and then.

1090
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: We need a few minutes?

1091
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: Or should we do it just with half live, with

1092
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: half live? We do it with half live.

1093
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: We'll do it live.

1094
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: One of the great moments of Z's life. And I

1095
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: don't all of us.

1096
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 4: So you were there in spirit it was, I understand,

1097
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Speaker 4: but like it's just an unbelievable get. It's an unbelievable get.

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Speaker 3: We'll explain for this program and what you and I do,

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Speaker 3: and what we the fund that we have and the

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Speaker 3: fund that this individual has brought us with one particular phrase, Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's unbelievable.

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00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 4: And it's not even just that phrase.

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Speaker 2: I mean this goes back years with him.

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Speaker 4: We've loved them from how could you not? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so it's a great moment. The Joe Thomas half

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Speaker 2: birthday to the Hoffness Haf.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I appreciate It's great to

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00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 5: be with you guys on my birthday.

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Speaker 3: No less, Oh my goodness, Haf, Happy birthday, dude.

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Speaker 4: We love you, brother.

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Speaker 2: Little taste of the morning for you, Hoff Are you

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00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: running around in the hoff robe?

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00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 4: What does it look like? Yes, yes, are you good question?

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00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 4: Hof Robe?

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Speaker 5: No, No, you know, Mondays are a busy day for me,

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Speaker 5: as you guys, I'm sure have the same thing, because

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00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 5: you know, Sunday's busy football day, and when you work

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00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 5: in the NFL, your Mondays are kind of loaded talking

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Speaker 5: about football stuff from the weekend. But that's the way

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00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 5: I like it to be, right, just staying busy, keeping

1130
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 5: in that routine, you know, kick the kids out of

1131
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 5: the house nice and early. This morning. I just got

1132
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 5: to remind him it's my birthday when they get home,

1133
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 5: so they got to finally listen to me for one

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00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 5: day out of three hundred and sixty four.

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Speaker 3: Haf what's on the birthday menu? What's on the birthday?

1136
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: Did we already celebrate on Saturday night?

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00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 10: That was it?

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00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: Last Saturday. We did a big extravaganzafore you talk to me.

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00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 3: What meats were consumed? What wines?

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Speaker 7: All?

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00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, you know. Uh, I'm embarrassed to say that

1142
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be eating leftover brats and hot dogs and

1143
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 5: hamburgers today because we've been doing a lot of celebrating

1144
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 5: this fall. We just got back from Mexico. We were

1145
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 5: in the Great Port of Iarta. We were there for

1146
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 5: almost ten days because of some flight issues, but but

1147
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 5: we did plenty of celebrating there, and I'm actually going

1148
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 5: on Wednesday down to Texas, so that is gonna be

1149
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 5: when we're gonna do the real celebration down there. There

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00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 5: will be some venisons consumed, yes, oh yeah.

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00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: What do we hunt? Oh? This is the hunt week

1152
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 4: and some deer.

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00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, hunt some deer, some some wild pigs. So it

1154
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 5: should be tremendous. Yeah, so we're saving the official birthday

1155
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 5: celebration extravaganza for Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Is this the Are you West Texas or is this

1157
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 2: more the Is this the San Antonio?

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00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: Is this the place he went last time? Yeah?

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00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, this is kind of the spot I go

1160
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 5: every year. I got a buddy down there that's got

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00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 5: a ranch. This is kind of like South Texas, So

1162
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 5: if you flew into San Antonio, be a couple hours south.

1163
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 5: He's actually right on the Rio Grande, so they actually

1164
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 5: have like a huge stretch like seven miles of the

1165
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 5: border wall right on their ranch and their property. So

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Speaker 5: it is as far south as you can possibly go.

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Speaker 5: Because when you land, I always love it. It's that

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00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 5: feeling you know, you get that feeling when you get

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00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 5: on vacation, Like when I used to go up north

1170
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 5: as a kid, I'd smell the pine trees when we

1171
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 5: got out of the car, and I just gave you

1172
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 5: that feeling, right, And you know, I'm sure everybody has that.

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Speaker 5: If you go out to the mountains, it just smells

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00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 5: different or it feels different. When I land in South Texas,

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Speaker 5: it always has my cell phone it says welcome to

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Speaker 5: Mexico because my cell phone picks up the Mexican towers.

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Speaker 5: And it's always that like vacation feeling like all right,

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Speaker 5: this is great, Like nobody's gonna bother me for a

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Speaker 5: few days.

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Speaker 4: That is fantastic. What I love that?

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Speaker 2: What a perfect way to celebrate the great hotness. Yes, hey, buddy,

1182
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: what did you make a Flacco yesterday?

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Speaker 5: I thought he was good. It was really good. He

1184
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 5: was I think, a lot better than most people probably expected,

1185
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 5: and he probably exceeded his own expectations, especially when you

1186
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 5: consider the guy hasn't played any football this year and

1187
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 5: he's only been with the team for a little over

1188
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 5: a week. So I think if you build on the

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00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 5: performance from last weekend, I think we really are still

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Speaker 5: in the hunt, and we've got a team that absolutely

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Speaker 5: is good enough to compete for a championship with Flacco

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00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 5: playing good football. I mean, he was a good quarterback

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Speaker 5: last year for the Jets, and I don't know exactly

1194
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 5: why he didn't find a home yet, but I thought

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00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 5: he was great. I mean, the first half he was

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Speaker 5: nearly flawless.

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Speaker 4: He can sling it. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 3: We said he got to protect him, and I thought

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Speaker 3: for the most part, the Browns did a good job.

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00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 3: Didn't get sacked until the game was over, basically at

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00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: the very end, when Aaron Donald did some things that

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00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 3: defied what I understand about human body's capabilities in terms

1203
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: of their strength. This was a game, though, Hof it

1204
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 3: felt like you needed to go out on this West

1205
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: Coast trip right win one of these two.

1206
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 4: And kind of a similar story.

1207
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Speaker 3: Defense not playing like it was, sloppy mistakes, sloppy penalties,

1208
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: and you know, starting to feel Denzel Ward by the way,

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Speaker 3: nobody's value has increased more in the eyes of I

1210
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Speaker 3: would imagine this organization, in this fan base and Denzel

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Speaker 3: Wards seeing the impact that him not being on the

1212
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: field has had. But what do you make in this

1213
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: defensive performance over six yards of play four hundred yards

1214
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 3: to the La Rams.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was not what we've come to expect. Obviously,

1216
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Speaker 5: We've been taking their praises all season long, and they've

1217
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 5: deserved it. They were buying large, far and away the

1218
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 5: number one defense in the NFL. And you know about Stafford,

1219
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 5: he's still a great player and Sean McVay can really

1220
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 5: dial up some great plays, So you know it was

1221
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 5: gonna be a tough challenge. But I don't think anybody

1222
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 5: expected the defense would get routed the way they did

1223
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Speaker 5: on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Have we just reached a point, Joe, where and it's

1225
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: reasonable that the injuries it's too much. It's so hard

1226
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: to and yet somehow we might anyway overcome it and

1227
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: get to ten wins, which would get you in the postseason.

1228
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: But my god, I mean, Miles is playing on one arm,

1229
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 2: Denzel didn't play as he alluded to, And you talked

1230
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: about just so much from an injury standpoint, how much

1231
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: can one organization handle? It feels like we're well past

1232
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: the limit.

1233
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they've already done a great job managing

1234
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 5: for as many injuries as they have had. I mean,

1235
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 5: when you talk about you lose your running back, who's

1236
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 5: the heart and soul of the team. Then you lose

1237
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 5: your starting right tackle, you lose your left tackle, you

1238
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 5: lose your starting quarterback. And then now you're talking about

1239
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 5: the defensive injuries, which this defense was pass rush disruption

1240
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 5: up front, right, They're creating chaos with their defensive line,

1241
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 5: and then great coverage in the back end. And now

1242
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 5: you have injuries to your best player on your entire team,

1243
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett, so he's not playing nearly full strength. And

1244
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 5: then now you've got issues in the secondary because of

1245
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 5: your best players getting hurt there. So it's really hard

1246
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 5: to hold it together. And we as fans, you know,

1247
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 5: in your mind, you close your eyes and once you

1248
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 5: see the level of play that a team is capable of,

1249
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 5: or a unit is capable of, that becomes the standard,

1250
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 5: and so you just kind of expect it and you've

1251
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 5: got to forget sometimes well, it's because of the players

1252
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 5: that are out there, it's not because of the helmet

1253
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 5: that they're wearing. And so when you know, kuys start

1254
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 5: getting banged up, it's like, yeah, it's coach speak, and

1255
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 5: we all love saying, you know, the standard is the standard,

1256
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 5: and the expectations don't change, but there are different dudes

1257
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 5: out there, and there's a reason the guy was the

1258
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 5: starter in the first place. So I think it has

1259
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 5: been certainly difficult to maintain their level of performance with

1260
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 5: all the injuries that they've dealt with. But I think

1261
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 5: everybody's hopeful of that we're going to start getting those

1262
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 5: guys back, and you know, like for Miles, so you know,

1263
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 5: hopefully he's going to start getting a little bit more

1264
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 5: healthy each week and we'll start seeing more of the

1265
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett that we saw earlier in the season.

1266
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: Half first half Browns had twelve carries for twenty two

1267
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: yards on the ground. And it's kind of been a

1268
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: little bit of a trend that's that's popping up where

1269
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 3: it's been real tough sledding.

1270
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 4: What are what are teams doing?

1271
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: And I've talked a little bit about you know, the

1272
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 3: five man and sometimes even six man fronts and certainly

1273
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: eight in the box that we saw yesterday. But what's

1274
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: kind of been the issue because it felt like what

1275
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: we did so well early year was move the line

1276
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, and it feels like we are not really

1277
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 3: being able to do that lately.

1278
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 5: Well I think you're seeing is what happens is when

1279
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 5: you kind of lose that downfield passing game a little bit.

1280
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 5: With you know, dtr was in there, we didn't really

1281
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 5: push the ball down the field much at all, and

1282
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 5: so defenses are smart, they're pretty quick to adapt. All

1283
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 5: of a sudden, they're just going to put more dudes

1284
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 5: close to the line of scrimmage because they don't have

1285
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 5: to back up, they don't have to worry about the

1286
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 5: ball getting thrown over their heads, and so I think

1287
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 5: that was part of it. But part of the reason

1288
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 5: I think Joe Flacker was good in the first half

1289
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: is because they were like, all right, let's make this

1290
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 5: guy win by throwing the ball, so they're putting extra

1291
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 5: guys up in the box to try to take away

1292
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 5: the run game. He kind of gashed him a little

1293
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 5: bit in the first half and gave defense enough to

1294
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 5: think about where they had to be a little bit

1295
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 5: more balanced. So they did in the game with you know,

1296
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 5: eighty seven yards rushing, which is not a killer performance.

1297
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 5: But I think having that balance with Flack at the quarterback,

1298
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 5: who can throw the ball down the field, who can

1299
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 5: run some of that play action stuff, I think that'll

1300
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 5: really help the run game, and it'll force defenses to

1301
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 5: continue to try to be honest.

1302
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: And honestly And Nathan brought this up earlier. Hoff this

1303
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: is Kevin's really comfortable in this type of offense that

1304
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: Joe can play. I mean, this is what he did

1305
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: with the Viking, So you know, all of that stuff,

1306
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: this is all really Kevin's sweet spot, is it not.

1307
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think one of the things he's going to

1308
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 5: do a great job of always is looking at the

1309
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 5: personnel he has and kind of leaning into what his

1310
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 5: team does best, whether it be the run game, whether

1311
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 5: it be hey we got great tight ends that can block,

1312
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 5: We're gonna put more tight ends on the field. Hey

1313
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 5: we've got a quarterback that likes to spread them out.

1314
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 5: You know, we'll go play with three and four wide receivers.

1315
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 5: And so I believe in Kevin. I think he's going

1316
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 5: to do a great job figuring out, Okay, if Flaco's

1317
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 5: our guy here moving forward, what are the things that

1318
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 5: he does best and coming up with a game plan

1319
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 5: that really leans into his strengths and tries to minimize

1320
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 5: those weaknesses.

1321
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: And it's there's also something to be said kind of

1322
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: watching this game. I felt like at times there was

1323
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: some mirror image stuff. Now they do it at all

1324
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 3: out of eleven personnel, they being the Rams for the

1325
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: most part. But you're talking about you know, the play

1326
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: the stretch boots, you know, all of the keeper games

1327
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 3: that we used to run two Titans. Harrison Brian played

1328
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: thirty one snaps. That's the most snaps that Harrison Brian's played.

1329
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 3: I think this, Uh yeah, that's the most number of

1330
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 3: snaps that he's played this season.

1331
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 4: Because I think what we saw.

1332
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: Was little more of what we ran with Jakobe Brissett,

1333
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: what we ran with Baker Mayfield, what he ran with

1334
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins with Joe Flacco, some of that under center,

1335
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: that good play action game, and we saw the Rams

1336
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: do it on us. It was that was such an

1337
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: interesting thing to watch two teams that clearly are come

1338
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: from the same you know, philosophical core mcvabian on the

1339
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 3: staff with the Shanahans in Washington and obviously Kevin working

1340
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 3: with Gary Kopiak. When you have that as kind of

1341
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: your base to build off of, it almost felt like

1342
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: Kevin was a little more comfort in a rhythm as

1343
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: a play caller because I could even see it come in,

1344
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you did too, where we had hit

1345
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 3: stretch stretch and then it's all of a sudden stretch and

1346
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: then you keep it and we were able to get

1347
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: those easy completions that had been tougher running a little

1348
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 3: bit more, but we've been doing out of that shotgun

1349
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: based offense.

1350
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have a lot more options when you are

1351
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 5: under center because the running back then is always right

1352
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 5: behind the quarterback, which gives you a balanced look on

1353
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 5: both sides. As soon as the defense sees a halfback

1354
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 5: offset one way or the other, they can basically take

1355
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 5: half or a third of the offensive run concepts and

1356
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 5: they can cross them out because you can't run a

1357
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 5: lot of the running plays when your running backs come

1358
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 5: across the formation because the angle of his shoulders when

1359
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 5: he starts running sideways, he can't get all the way

1360
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 5: back to the back side, so you don't get the

1361
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 5: same stretch. And a lot of times, if I'm a

1362
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 5: defensive end and the back is offset away from me

1363
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 5: and the shotgun, they'll tell me I have the ability

1364
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 5: to either go up the field and take the C gap,

1365
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 5: which is outside of the tackle, or I can go

1366
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 5: to the b gap inside the tackle between the guard

1367
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 5: and the tackle because they're not worried about that running

1368
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 5: back ever being able to get outside of that player.

1369
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 5: And so it really it makes it harder and you

1370
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 5: become one dimensional on an offense and the defense they're

1371
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 5: able to open up what they can do and dictate

1372
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 5: to the offense a little bit. So it doesn't make

1373
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 5: it tougher overall. But typically when you are more in

1374
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 5: the shotgun, you have those athletic quarterbacks that can beat

1375
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 5: you off script. They can beat you with their legs,

1376
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 5: So there is some give and take there. But I

1377
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 5: think that with Flacco, you're going to see a lot

1378
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 5: more of what Stefan SI's just bread and butter. His

1379
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 5: rudimentary first time learning this system was all about it's

1380
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,959
Speaker 5: the boot, it's the outside zone, it's the play action

1381
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 5: game that comes off of those things. And really, when

1382
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 5: you look at the roster on offense, we got the

1383
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 5: guys that can do it. We've got good tight ends

1384
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 5: that can block, they can catch the football, they can

1385
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 5: get vertically up the seams. You got receivers who are

1386
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 5: really good in the middle of the field, which is

1387
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 5: where a lot of those play action throws come from.

1388
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 5: You know, those daggers, those slams, yep, those bang eights,

1389
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 5: things like that, And then you got a running game

1390
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 5: with Pierre Strong and Jerome Ford, who are good outside

1391
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: zone runners who can get on that railroad track. They

1392
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 5: can force linebackers to overpursue because of their speed, and

1393
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 5: then they can cut the ball back. And the good

1394
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 5: news is year you got an offensive line that's pretty versatile,

1395
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 5: Like they can block pin pole, they can block gap scheme,

1396
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 5: they can block inside zone, power counter, they can go

1397
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 5: outside zone. So really it doesn't matter for those guys.

1398
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 5: But I think just with the skill guys, they're very

1399
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 5: well suited to run this type.

1400
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: Of an offense. You mentioned Pierre Strong.

1401
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 3: I think he's got juice, like I thought when he

1402
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 3: just feels like he's a threat to break it at

1403
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 3: any moment.

1404
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 4: I like the way he runs.

1405
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 3: He's our leader in terms of yards for Kerry obviously

1406
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: has the lightest workload. So it's a very small sample size.

1407
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: But when when you watched him yesterday, was that a

1408
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: guy you're saying I'd like to see more of that?

1409
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 4: I certainly was.

1410
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt, I'd love to see more of Pierre Strong.

1411
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 5: He reminds me a little bit of Jamal Charles, if

1412
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 5: you guys remember him back when he's playing for the Chiefs.

1413
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: He's carry in the history.

1414
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 5: He's got a smoothness to him, right, he gets the

1415
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 5: football where he just kind of like coasts and he's

1416
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 5: got this burst and good vision. So I would definitely

1417
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 5: like to see him get some more opportunities. I mean,

1418
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 5: he only had two carries, but you average ten yards

1419
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 5: of carry yesterday, and I think when you get a

1420
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 5: guy in there and he only gets a handful of

1421
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 5: carries and he is so successful, you're saying, let's see

1422
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 5: more from this guy. Let's see what he's got. I go,

1423
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 5: let's see where that ceiling is. And I think he

1424
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 5: especially just fits well with what Flacco is and what

1425
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 5: Stefanski's offense is going to look like when Flaco's in there.

1426
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: The reality is you're a seven and five football team,

1427
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: and I have to I have to think that if

1428
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: you look at our offensive football team. You guys just

1429
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: mentioned Strong and Ford. We don't know what's going to

1430
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: happen with Amari, but it's Belle and Tilman.

1431
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it's.

1432
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: Elijah who he has great chemistry with the tackles are

1433
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: going to be young guys one way or the other.

1434
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: I gotta think the veteran presence, I mean, the calming

1435
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: nature of it on a that's huge, isn't it.

1436
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 5: Yeah. And having a guy like Flacco in huddle is huge, right,

1437
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 5: because he's got all that experience. He's played in a

1438
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 5: bunch of systems, he's won a Super Bowl, and I

1439
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 5: think he's got a nice calmness to him. And it

1440
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 5: seems like we've got some amazing veterans on the offensive line,

1441
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 5: you know, with Joel and with Wyatt, and then with

1442
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 5: Amari on the outside and Djoku, like there's a really

1443
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 5: good core of players that will be totally poised for

1444
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 5: the noise down the stretch, be able to handle anything.

1445
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 5: And I think that's one of the things that probably

1446
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 5: Stefanski's excited about, right, because when you have a lot

1447
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 5: of veterans, you can throw a lot of different schemes

1448
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 5: at him. You can change who you are and what

1449
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 5: your identity is from week to week because those guys

1450
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 5: know how to block a bunch of different concepts. They

1451
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 5: know how to run a bunch of different pass routes

1452
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 5: and schemes. They know how to make them look similar, right,

1453
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 5: And that's always been the key to the Shanahan scheme,

1454
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 5: is like, hey, make everything kind of look the same,

1455
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 5: put defenders in conflict, and then take advantage of it.

1456
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: Team had not lost back to back games this year.

1457
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: They had followed every loss with a win. They'd been

1458
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 3: so good at being resilient in that way. Now you

1459
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 3: lose two in a row. All of it takes place

1460
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 3: seemingly in another world. Right, you're living out of a hotel,

1461
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 3: You're gone. It felt it could not have felt more

1462
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: unlike a regular season week if it was possible. And

1463
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the players said, you know, it

1464
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: felt like a bowl game week to them. Now you

1465
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 3: come home, you have the toughest test left on your schedule.

1466
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 3: How does this football team back home in the beautiful

1467
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 3: gray of Cleveland kind of rally around each other and

1468
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 3: get this thing going back in the right direction. Because

1469
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 3: a third loss, I don't think it really changes anything

1470
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: in terms of your playoff aspirations. A win here, though,

1471
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: I think solidifies you as a playoff team.

1472
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a loss it what it does. It

1473
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,479
Speaker 5: doesn't hurt your schedule standings as much as it hurts

1474
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 5: your psyche and your mental belief in this team, because

1475
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 5: I think for you know, a while, as Deshaun was

1476
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 5: kind of getting his feet under him, and then once

1477
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 5: he came back and he started playing well. Of course,

1478
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 5: then he got hurt, but there was this belief that, hey,

1479
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 5: we got this great defense, They're gonna be able to

1480
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 5: carry us no matter what. And then you know, there

1481
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 5: was some cracks there yesterday didn't play their best game,

1482
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 5: and I think that was just a blip on the radar.

1483
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 5: But when all of a sudden, your identity is how

1484
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 5: you're losing the game, you start wondering, like you start

1485
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 5: questioning yourself, questioning the team, You question, hey, how far

1486
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 5: can we really go?

1487
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 7: Right?

1488
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 5: Because that was sort of who we were, And so

1489
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 5: I think getting a win would just be so huge,

1490
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 5: especially if they were able to really have a good

1491
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 5: offensive performance and Flacco was able to build on what

1492
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 5: he did on Sunday, because, yeah, the Jaguars, they're a

1493
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 5: very good team, and you look at the rest of

1494
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 5: the schedule, I mean, Bears, Texans, Jets, Bengals, Like that's

1495
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 5: easy for me as a fan to say you should

1496
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 5: win all four of those games. But you win against

1497
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 5: the Jaguars. I think you really build a lot of

1498
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 5: positive momentum that you're gonna want as you potentially head

1499
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 5: into the playoffs.

1500
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: Well, then it allows for you to not have to

1501
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: win all the ones that feel like they have that

1502
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: are locks, like Chicago. You look at Chicago, Jets, Bengals,

1503
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: you say, you get those three are locks.

1504
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 4: Those gotta be so.

1505
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: Then now you have a little bit of a cushion there.

1506
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 2: And as we kind of go around the AFC, Hoff,

1507
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's Miami attop it's Baltimore. After that, Kansas

1508
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 2: City drops to four with their loss to Green Bay.

1509
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 2: Over the weekend, Pittsburgh lost at home to Arizona. This

1510
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: is a jumbled mess. I think the team nobody wants

1511
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: to play is Buffalo, but Hoff their schedule is brutal.

1512
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: They got Kansas City in Dallas, they still have to

1513
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: play Miami and they're six and six. It's hard for

1514
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 2: me to see Buffalo getting to ten. So this AFC,

1515
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: if you just get in, you can make a run

1516
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: of it.

1517
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 5: That was one of the things I was saying at

1518
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 5: the beginning of the season, because we had looked at

1519
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 5: the quality of talent on all these rosters and they said, Okay,

1520
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 5: you know in the NFC, got the Eagles, you got

1521
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 5: the nine. Yeah, maybe the Cowboys, and you know at

1522
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 5: the beginning the Lions were maybe getting you excited. But

1523
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 5: outside of that, like, the NFC is kind of weak

1524
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 5: compared to the AFC, which is loaded, right, And when

1525
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 5: you have a loaded conference or a loaded division, those

1526
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 5: guys beat up on each other a lot. So the

1527
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 5: key is to get into the playoffs. That's the only

1528
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 5: thing that matters. But once you're in, getting the dance,

1529
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 5: and then your battle hardened, your battle tested, right, rather

1530
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 5: than just coasting through the season and all of a sudden,

1531
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 5: you play a couple of tough games. You don't know

1532
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 5: how to win, You don't know how to dig deeper,

1533
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 5: you don't believe in yourself because you've never been in

1534
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 5: those tough games, those situations during the season. So I

1535
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 5: think the AFC, the whole thing is just get in,

1536
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 5: because once you're in, it's all about who's hot in

1537
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 5: those moments and what is the matchup? And I think

1538
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 5: all those teams are going to be battle hardened, and

1539
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 5: the Browns are in a great position, right. I think

1540
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 5: I have pretty high confidence they'll make the playoffs, And

1541
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 5: really for me, the thing I'm watching here down the

1542
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 5: stretch is, hey, how does fly look? How much more

1543
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 5: comfortable is he every single week? And can our defense

1544
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 5: get back to who they were at the beginning of

1545
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 5: the season.

1546
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 3: So your mind, after what you saw Sunday, no brainer.

1547
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 3: And I'm Kevin Sefanci is not named a starter. I

1548
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 3: think doing large part to the fact that dtr and

1549
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 3: Flacco would operate two different offenses, or at least there'd

1550
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 3: be certain portions that would be unique to both of them.

1551
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 3: So why not make Jacksonville game plan? But in your mind, Hooff,

1552
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 3: you've seen enough from Flacco to say, let's go ahead

1553
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 3: and give him a shot the rest of the way.

1554
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,919
Speaker 5: I think so. And when you look at the stats,

1555
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 5: you know, maybe it doesn't just jump out at you,

1556
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 5: but when you dig deeper than just the statistics, you're

1557
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 5: looking at what Flacco gives you the ability to do.

1558
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 5: And as a coach, when you have a young quarterback,

1559
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 5: you're cutting immediately. You know, on the cutting room floor,

1560
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 5: like Wednesday, you're cutting a third of the offense, and

1561
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 5: you're cutting a bunch of stuff that you maybe would

1562
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 5: want to do that you're just like, I can't put

1563
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 5: this on his place. It's just too much. You have

1564
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 5: to keep it very simple, and that's stuff adds up

1565
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 5: after a while. Like I've played, obviously with a bunch

1566
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 5: of young quarterbacks, and they'll look good for a week

1567
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 5: or two, but teams really dial in on their weaknesses

1568
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 5: and they really start coming up with some good game

1569
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 5: plans to attack those weaknesses, and it makes it really

1570
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 5: tough because you don't have the ability to CounterPunch when

1571
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 5: you have a young quarterback that just doesn't have a

1572
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 5: lot of stuff that he knows how to do, or

1573
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 5: that the team or the offensive coordinator is comfortable with

1574
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,440
Speaker 5: him running. But Flacko's a different story, Like his limitations

1575
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 5: are not mental, and so defenses are not going to

1576
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 5: be forcing the offense into one dimensional situations the way

1577
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 5: they would if you had a younger player at quarterback.

1578
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: No, certainly wouldn't.

1579
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: Haf One of the people that I have been the

1580
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 2: biggest fan of going to back to my youth was

1581
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 2: and at the time he was wearing number forty seven

1582
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 2: in a Miami Hurricanes jersey, was the playmaker Michael Irvin

1583
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: loved his swag, loved everything about it.

1584
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you gave us.

1585
01:10:55,680 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: A window into the Playmaker because of what I think

1586
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: in z agrees was the best pregame show in the

1587
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 2: history of the National Football League ever, bring it back, period,

1588
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 2: full stop. You and Steve and IRV and Colleen was

1589
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 2: I's magic. I mean, it was just it's everything. So

1590
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 2: we got gold Jerry gold Well said, we got this

1591
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 2: window into IRV through you that made us even love

1592
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: him more, even more, in fact, love him.

1593
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 4: On every level.

1594
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 5: Level.

1595
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: So you are aware, and I will I will hand

1596
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,919
Speaker 2: the keys to this over to Z now to explain

1597
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: to our audience what exactly transpired. And then we've got

1598
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: a little treat for you in the audience, and everybody.

1599
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 4: Go into all right.

1600
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 3: So on Saturday I was out with with Chris Rose

1601
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 3: and getting ready for the game to a little breaking

1602
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 3: bread and we run into the Playmaker at a at

1603
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 3: a Beverly Hills restaurant and Chris obviously had worked with

1604
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 3: him on Best Damn Sports Show many many years ago,

1605
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 3: and they know each other well, and so everybody's kind

1606
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 3: of regaling themselves with tails and I'd come over and

1607
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 3: you know, I mentioned, I was like, you know, Playmaker

1608
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 3: met you a few times, good friends with the Hof

1609
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 3: Joe Thomas. He loves you, Joe. He was like, Oh,

1610
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: that's my guy.

1611
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 4: I miss him. Tell Mama said hello, So hello from

1612
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 4: from IRV.

1613
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: And then I just had to tell him because Bow

1614
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 3: and I have been doing on every level ever since

1615
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 3: he had that on TV where he got into it

1616
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 3: with Richard Sherman and about Ceedee Lamb catching the ball.

1617
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 4: He said, I've won championships, oh, every level.

1618
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 3: So I told him, I said, IRV, I gotta tell

1619
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: you something. We do the show work for the Browns.

1620
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. I said, we loved that.

1621
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 3: And then he started yelling about how Richard Sherman was wrong,

1622
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: and I was still pissed that he had the audacity

1623
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 3: to even challenge him, and so I said to him.

1624
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 3: I was like, IRV, do you mind if if I

1625
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 3: just do a quick video with you, and I just

1626
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 3: want I'm gonna say, you know, where have you won championships?

1627
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 5: And all?

1628
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 4: You just hit me with an on every level? So

1629
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 4: that's the setup.

1630
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 3: I ask him the question, and and here is here

1631
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 3: is the audio of what happened in the video might

1632
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: even be better, but here's the audio of what happened playmaker.

1633
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 7: Let me ask this, where have you wont championships?

1634
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 17: Let me tell you what I used to do in

1635
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 17: the locker room in the Dallas Cowboys locker room, right,

1636
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 17: I used to go stand right in the middle of

1637
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 17: the locker room.

1638
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 5: They got him a star. I used to go out

1639
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 5: there in the star front of all.

1640
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 4: The guys I was booked in the locker room, and.

1641
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 17: I would say, who all want championships? Let's determine who's the.

1642
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 5: Main call to get this thing going?

1643
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 7: Who want championship?

1644
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 17: In high school, few people were aving in, who want

1645
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:40,919
Speaker 17: champion Lacari?

1646
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 7: A few people were raving here?

1647
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 4: Who want a Super Bowl?

1648
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 6: NFL?

1649
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 7: Everybody ad to hens who won him? Every aware? Only

1650
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 7: I said only?

1651
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 4: I mean there's answer, because I.

1652
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 7: Want championship going every level.

1653
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 17: Understand everywhere I set my feet in the sun, now

1654
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 17: for a footprint greatness.

1655
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 7: That's what I'm talking about.

1656
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 4: Everywhere. Hey, could you hear the stops when he said

1657
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 4: when he said.

1658
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 3: My foot in the ground, boom, I left footprints of greatness.

1659
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's ever topped.

1660
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 4: I don't think it could. I mean it was, it was,

1661
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 4: but I just was asking for that.

1662
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 3: We got fifty five seconds of just pure electricity. And

1663
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 3: this is in the middle as you could hear of

1664
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 3: a rather crowded bar in a nice and.

1665
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: A white as white tablecloth resort as you can get

1666
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: from you could get yes, and he just what electricity.

1667
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: He also went on and I won't I won't complete

1668
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 3: but saying that, you know, he feels like he's got

1669
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 3: to get his flowers now that he has a limited time.

1670
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 3: Yet there have been certain well known people who have

1671
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,799
Speaker 3: been stealing his shine and he's not standing for it anymore.

1672
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 4: He's truth you.

1673
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: You you were with him every Thursday, I mean and

1674
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: some Wednesdays, and that's right, and some when like that

1675
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: was that was unbelievable, right there was it not even

1676
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: for you?

1677
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 5: I mean, that was amazing. But that's just so on brand,

1678
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 5: Like that's exactly who that guy is, twenty four hours

1679
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 5: a day, except when he sleeps for twenty four hours straight.

1680
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 5: Like the only time I didn't see him on Wednesday,

1681
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 5: he just slept through the meeting and he was recovering

1682
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 5: from like three nights before. But I just love that

1683
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 5: guy so much. He's got so much passion, so much

1684
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,799
Speaker 5: zest for life. He always wants to tell you a story,

1685
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:25,480
Speaker 5: especially if it's about himself. And he is so freaking funny.

1686
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 5: He's just got the biggest heart. And I do miss

1687
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 5: doing that show with him because it was so much fun,

1688
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 5: not only doing the show, but just traveling with the

1689
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 5: guy and just seeing the way he lives his life.

1690
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 5: It is beyond a Hollywood movie.

1691
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he has such an electricity and a magnetism

1692
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 3: about him, and he's a big guy, haf I was.

1693
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 3: This was the most time that I'd spent like obviously

1694
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 3: arm in arm with him, and he loves to like

1695
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 3: grab your bicep while he's talking to you, like, oh, go.

1696
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 4: Ahead, playmaker, do what you do. Yeah, it was. That

1697
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 4: was a real tree.

1698
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 3: And everybody who gets the show and listens to it

1699
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 3: knows how much fun we've had.

1700
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 4: With oh every God.

1701
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 3: And now you have it from the source, the origin

1702
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 3: story from the source, from the Dallas Cowboys locker room.

1703
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: In the Cowboys locker room, he stood buck naked on

1704
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 2: the star on the star and said, raise your hand

1705
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 2: on this, on this, on this one.

1706
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 6: I'm.

1707
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 4: Let's find out who the real man is.

1708
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: How has there not been a reality TV show with

1709
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 2: this human?

1710
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 5: Well, that's all I'm wondering. I mean that is something

1711
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 5: that pay per view would get people like to pay

1712
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 5: thirty bucks per episode just to watch because he's like

1713
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 5: that all the time. Oh my gosh, you gonna have

1714
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 5: your own stream. He's like, forget Netflix. People would pay

1715
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 5: more for just that show alone than they pay for

1716
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 5: the entire Netflix subscription.

1717
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: Like one of the things that or pure joy for

1718
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 2: the game.

1719
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 3: There's a little bit of both. I think there's plenty

1720
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 3: of content to go around. I think that you know,

1721
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 3: people talking about Rick Flair and like the heyday of

1722
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 3: the Nature Boy, he'd wrestle a sixty minute match. He'd

1723
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 3: party till six in the morning, he'd be on a

1724
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 3: treadmill at eight in the morning, and he'd wrestle a

1725
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 3: sixty minute match the next day, and people were like,

1726
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 3: how is how does one human do this?

1727
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 4: Yep, IRV had to be we're out there.

1728
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 3: I mean he had to be up early to be

1729
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 3: on NFL network the next morning. Yeah, and yet he's

1730
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 3: on there and he's got he's full zest, Like you

1731
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 3: would not know that there was anything that could have

1732
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 3: possibly zapped his zest the night before because he was

1733
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 3: living so big. That's an incredible skill. That's an incredible

1734
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 3: skill to me.

1735
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 4: Built different, it.

1736
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 5: Was amazing different.

1737
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it just different.

1738
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 5: Now. I loved it though, because I got up on

1739
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 5: Sunday morning, you know my routine a lot of times

1740
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 5: on Sundays, get up, get into treadmill, you know, kind

1741
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 5: of shake the cobwebs out before church, and start watching

1742
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 5: the Boys on Game Day morning. And I get this

1743
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 5: video from z which was beautiful, so thank you for

1744
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 5: sending that to me. And and I'm like, if this

1745
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 5: man was doing this four hours ago, there's no way

1746
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 5: he's gonna look normal on the show. He's about to

1747
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 5: come on, And sure enough, the show comes on. He

1748
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 5: looks amazing. He looks he just slept twelve hours. It's incredible,

1749
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 5: like full of energy, eyes wide open, and you know,

1750
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 5: I've seen him in some of his low moments where

1751
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 5: he doesn't look that great, but he looked fantastic. It's amazing.

1752
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 5: His ability to roll out of bed and act like

1753
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 5: nothing happened has got to be second to maybe only

1754
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 5: the Nature Boy.

1755
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 4: The Nature Boy if he goes past I gotta tell

1756
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 4: you what.

1757
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 3: So when I was when I got the video, obviously,

1758
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 3: when we went home that night I was. I watched

1759
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 3: on my phone maybe one hundred times. Yeah, I sent

1760
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 3: you guys a text. I knew you guys were both

1761
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 3: asleep and everything. I was just laughing harder and harder,

1762
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 3: and and Miss k was like, bo is gonna wake.

1763
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 4: Up and freak out.

1764
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 2: I was so excited, like of all the things that

1765
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 2: I could have, all the things that I would say,

1766
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 2: no way, it was gonna be you and the playmaker

1767
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 2: at Mastros, I mean.

1768
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 3: Doing a promo probo, like a probo, and then he

1769
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 3: stopped the ground, the floor, and the earth shook, the

1770
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: earth shook beneath it.

1771
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 2: Maybe so happy, maybe so happy on every line we

1772
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: win by a billion, There's no way that.

1773
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 4: And see how we couldn't after that? Yes, you can't

1774
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 4: have everything right.

1775
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 3: If you're gonna get that, you have to make that

1776
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 3: high of a high, you're gonna have to endure some

1777
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 3: loads to average half.

1778
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, brother, Yeah, have a great night, love you,

1779
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: enjoy the hunt.

1780
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 4: We love you.

1781
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,440
Speaker 2: Have a great hunt in Texas.

1782
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

1783
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 2: We please regallous with your stories down there and go

1784
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: forward to afforded the kills as always.

1785
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 4: Uh, and have a great week, my friend.

1786
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 5: He Yeah, I appreciate it as always, guys, it was

1787
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 5: great uh chatting and uh talking some herb playmaker stories.

1788
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 5: Those are always amazing. I'll make sure to shoot you

1789
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 5: guys some picks if we have any success down in Texas.

1790
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 5: We got the dinner table or out in the deer black, all.

1791
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 4: Of it, Yes, all the winds. A happy birthday, every level.

1792
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Speaker 11: So good.

1793
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Speaker 4: Great hoff, Oh, that is great.

1794
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Speaker 2: In fact, there is getting a little college football stuff

1801
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 2: as well. Pretty chaotic day already and weekend in that sport.

1802
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: More on the NFL side of things. Get you set

1803
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: for the game tonight between Cincinnati and Jacksonville, our opponent

1804
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Speaker 2: on that one. All right, how do you want you

1814
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: want me to do that? You want to do the

1815
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: portal thing first, Gibbey or do you want me to

1816
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 2: because I I can sum up both of these things.

1817
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 4: I feel pretty concisely.

1818
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 6: Like we should start with the news of the day

1819
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 6: in Ohio State needing a quarterback for their meaningless bowl game.

1820
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 4: And I do mean meaningless.

1821
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, this is where you're at. So yeah, Kyle

1822
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 2: McCord entered the transfer portal today for people who don't

1823
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 2: follow college football on the RAG. As Kenny Powers would

1824
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,520
Speaker 2: say right now, is complete and utter chaos in the sport.

1825
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: So there were three things that happened with the powers

1826
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 2: that be in the sport over the last three years,

1827
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: all of them good things on their own, but all

1828
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: of them happening at the same time without any sort

1829
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: of guidance allows for this chaos. So it's name, image

1830
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 2: and likeness. It's the transfer portal which is open today,

1831
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: and it's free transfer. So all three of those things

1832
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 2: are good on their own, but all three of them

1833
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: needed to have guardrails. None of them have guardrails. So

1834
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,839
Speaker 2: what happened today and what is happening today is upwards

1835
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 2: of six hundred Division one football players entered the portal.

1836
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 2: There's a dozen ones, yeah, including the quarterback at Ohio State,

1837
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 2: the quarterback at Washington State, the quarterback at Oklahoma, the

1838
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 2: quarterback at Kansas State, the quarterback at Mississippi State, I

1839
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: mean the back of the form, and five star quarterback

1840
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: at Georgia. Like, it's six hundred guys, there's twelve buck

1841
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 2: guys in the portal today. There will be more that

1842
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 2: are going to go into the portal, so that is

1843
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: happening right now. So among those names is Kyle McCord.

1844
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 2: The other thing is is they change the National Signing

1845
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 2: Day to two weeks from tomorrow Wednesday, so the first

1846
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 2: national Signing Day is in the middle of December. So

1847
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 2: what that created was a roster jam that there is

1848
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: no solution to. So if you are running a college

1849
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,839
Speaker 2: football program right now, you have a mass exodus of players.

1850
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 2: All the while you're trying to sign players from the

1851
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 2: portal to replace those players, all the while signing a

1852
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: recruiting class that needs to be done in a couple

1853
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: of weeks. So it's a thousand moving parts all at once. Oh,

1854
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: by the way, let's say the part nobody wants to

1855
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,560
Speaker 2: talk about out loud, out loud. This is all a bid.

1856
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: It's a bidding process.

1857
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 5: It is.

1858
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: They're driving up the market on one another. The going rate,

1859
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 2: according to my sources, for a top flight quarterback in

1860
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: college football is around two and a half million dollars

1861
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 2: a year. So these guys that are in the portal,

1862
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: and some of these kids like cam Ward at Washington State,

1863
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 2: who's in his fifth year at Washington State, he could

1864
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: come into a place like, for example, Ohio State and

1865
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: be a game changer right now and be worth three

1866
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 2: million to Ohio State. He's a late round pick in

1867
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. It's more profitable for him to do

1868
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: that in college. Dylan Gabriel of Oklahoma could be like that.

1869
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of them, So that is happening right now.

1870
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: Here's how the Kyle McCord situation happened. Ohio State met

1871
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 2: with him within the last week and said this is

1872
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 2: going to be an open competition not only in the

1873
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 2: spring but also leading into the bowl game where they

1874
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:23,759
Speaker 2: play in the Cotton Bowl against Missouri. So once once

1875
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 2: that was known to him, and their thinking was that

1876
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: he would he would understand to be competing with not

1877
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: only Devin Brown who's the backup, but also Lincoln Keenholtz,

1878
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 2: who's there in a five star quarterback coming into Aaron Noland.

1879
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 2: Him and his family felt, rather than compete for this

1880
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,799
Speaker 2: job and this is for my sources, rather than compete

1881
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 2: for the job that he feels like Keishon titled to,

1882
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: He's going to go apply his whares somewhere else and

1883
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: see what the market will get him on the open market. Meantime,

1884
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 2: Ohio State now is a choice, do we roll with

1885
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 2: these three guys we have bring in a veteran presence

1886
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 2: guy for a one year start and then hand it

1887
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: over to Keenhols or Noland, who would be their second

1888
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 2: year in their first year after next season, or do

1889
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 2: we go get somebody in the portal who's a five

1890
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: star kid who's a freshman. Yep, and this is all

1891
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 2: just a bidding more that's happening amongst the most powerful

1892
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:12,879
Speaker 2: programs in the country.

1893
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 3: The wild thing from the Buckeye standpoint, right, is that

1894
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 3: because of this portal and this chaos, quin you Weres

1895
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,879
Speaker 3: left quin Ears and Texas.

1896
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 2: Quine Ewers went to Ohio State a year early because

1897
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: he couldn't make money on name, image and likeness in

1898
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 2: the state of Texas. So he didn't play his senior

1899
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 2: year at South Lake Carrol in the Dallas area because

1900
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: he couldn't profit off his name, image of likeness in

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01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 2: high school.

1902
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 4: Football in Texas.

1903
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 2: So he came to Ohio State a year early to

1904
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 2: make about a million and a half on nil for

1905
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: three months at Ohio State and then he transferred back

1906
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 2: to Texas. Had he played his senior year at South

1907
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: Lake Carol, he might be the Buckeye starting quarterback right now,

1908
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: right because they had him right.

1909
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 6: The other interesting thing that I think gets overlooked, and

1910
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 6: I don't know why this has changed, but like signing

1911
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 6: they used to be in February, like moving, it up

1912
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 6: to the consequences when you have coaches moving, and.

1913
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 2: Well, the reason coaches are moving now is because of

1914
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 2: this window. Yeah, the reason they moved. The window is

1915
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: because the big programs were were poaching kids who are

1916
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: signing it lesser programs. So you wait because the best

1917
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 2: players always waited for signing day in February.

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01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so.

1919
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 2: Once a kid, if you wait and you missed out

1920
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: on a guy last minute, you try and poach somebody

1921
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 2: else's recruiting class at a lower level. So they added

1922
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 2: this early signing day to prevent that from happening. The

1923
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: unintended consequence of it was it forced teams to fire

1924
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: coaches earlier, and it forced kids to enroll earlier into school.

1925
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 2: So every one of these things the intention was good,

1926
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 2: but the unintended consequences of all of it together is chaos.

1927
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 2: So people, you might even have a roster, I mean

1928
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: like I don't know who's gonna play for yt State

1929
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: and the game gets Missouri.

1930
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 4: It's a meaningless game. It's a pre season game.

1931
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean So they're saying the guy from the

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01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 3: Bruins UCLA.

1933
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 4: Dante Moore.

1934
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 2: So the problem with Dante Moore is to me that

1935
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: it seems like a no non starter from the Ohio State,

1936
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 2: he was down to Michigan, Oregon and then he ended

1937
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 2: up going.

1938
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 4: To UCLA and recruiting Detroit.

1939
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 7: He is.

1940
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 2: He was complaining about his nil at UCLA, and I

1941
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 2: don't think they'd want to blow up their room because

1942
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: if they brought him in, then they would basically punt

1943
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: Lincoln Keenholtz and Aaron Oland out. So I don't they're

1944
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 2: not going to bring I don't think that they would

1945
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: bring in someone who's a first year guy. Got it

1946
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: because he was a true freshman this year at UCLA.

1947
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 2: So I think they would go veteran. If anything, they'll

1948
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 2: go veteran. Cam Ward Will, Rogers, Blank Will something. He's

1949
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 2: a kid at Kansas State. Something like that would make

1950
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: more sense.

1951
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 5: Right.

1952
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,520
Speaker 4: So yours is in wet year at Texas.

1953
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: He's draft eligible and I think he will go pro,

1954
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 2: so he'll go the NFL. Okay, So but even if

1955
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 2: he doesn't, Malik Murphy would enter the window. Who was

1956
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,799
Speaker 2: his backup, who's a five star kid, and then stick around.

1957
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 2: He's arch would never come. He's not coming north, and

1958
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 2: I think they would. He's making a couple million bucks

1959
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: on n AL at Texas. I have at arch the

1960
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 2: the original Archie. Archie Manning said that they actually the

1961
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: family's fine with this like Eli red shirted, then he

1962
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: backed up for a year, and then he started for

1963
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: three and so they're fine with that, Like they don't

1964
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 2: need him rushing his plan. And that's how they've done

1965
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 2: everything with his high school stuff. Is that way, Like

1966
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 2: they went for a very traditional reproach approach to all

1967
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 2: of it. The other thing that happened in the sport

1968
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: real quickly over the weekend is Florida State was left

1969
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: out of the College Football Playoff despite being a thirteen

1970
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 2: to zero undefeated conference champion. Two of the foremost important

1971
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,879
Speaker 2: powerful entities in the sport are ESPN and the Southeastern Conference.

1972
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: The Southeastern Conference champion was getting in always and the

1973
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: difference there, especially when it's at twelve to one SEC champion.

1974
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,719
Speaker 2: The difference was Florida State's metric changed. They lost their quarterback.

1975
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: They're not the team that they once were, and it

1976
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 2: sucks for them. I was down there for six years.

1977
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 2: I love the people down there a lot, so I

1978
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 2: got a lot of friends who are working the university

1979
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: and work in the athletic department. They're good people. They

1980
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 2: deserve better. Those kids is are better, but they're not

1981
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 2: the same team they were and they had a chance

1982
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 2: on Saturday night to look good against Louisville.

1983
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Speaker 4: They didn't.

1984
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: They were completely incompetent. The quarterback for them went five

1985
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: to twenty two and the team they played Louisville's quarterback

1986
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 2: went something like twelve to thirty three.

1987
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 4: Like it was just.

1988
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: Awful, bad ball and none of it helped. And the

1989
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: committee's job was to thread the needle on best and

1990
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: most deserving. Yep, they've got the four best teams in

1991
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff. Honestly, they might not if they were.

1992
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 2: If people throwing the beef about Bama, there's no question

1993
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 2: Georgia would be one of the four best teams in it.

1994
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 2: Bama beat them, so they got in. Yeah, and that

1995
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: was the difference that Bama was twelve and one of

1996
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: their only lost to.

1997
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Speaker 4: Texas was the Texas. Okay, what do you think of

1998
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 4: the seeding?

1999
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Speaker 7: As?

2000
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to be Michigan. Who would you if you're

2001
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 4: a Michigan, who do you want to play? Washington? Yeah?

2002
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Speaker 4: Or Texas? Anyone not bamaaa?

2003
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

2004
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Speaker 2: And also I mean Texas both Washington Texas are good

2005
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: because they got pro quarterbacks Pennix Junior who might win

2006
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 2: the Heisman and then yew Ers at Texas. But Bama's

2007
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 2: physicality match because Michigan is not dynamic, they're physical, they're physical,

2008
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 2: but Bama has.

2009
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 4: Physical on another level. So were you surprised that it

2010
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 4: came out with Bama at four?

2011
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 7: Did you know?

2012
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 2: I tweeted that as soon as Bama beat Georgia said they're.

2013
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 4: In and that they would be four there.

2014
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 3: And if Georgia had beat Bama, Georgia would have been one,

2015
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 3: Michigan would have.

2016
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Been two against Washington, and Texas would have been for

2017
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 2: Texas would have jumped Florida.

2018
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Speaker 4: So Michigan really wanted Georgia to win that game.

2019
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, yeah, but they also have struggled with yeah, no,

2020
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 2: this will be a yeah, befull day. This was chaos, man.

2021
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 2: I cannot does make sense if you just take the

2022
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 2: emotional stuff out of it. I can't believe though, that

2023
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 2: a room of people that are the number one seed

2024
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 2: in this would be flummoxed by anybody. They played like you,

2025
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 2: you're if you're gonna win it?

2026
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 4: You're talking about that? Stunning? Yeah, so much more to come,

2027
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 4: so much more to come.

2028
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2037
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