1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. As we are rolling 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: through the Tuesday edition of the program. Buck has already 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: filled out his bracket. I will fill mine out in 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: the next day or two and we will be posting 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: them up on clayanbuck dot com. We have a steake 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: dinner bet on the outcome of the bracket challenge. One 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: man not very happy about the brackets. West Virginia Governor 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Morrissey. You guys West Virginia, for those who don't know, 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: West Virginia Mountaineers left out of the NCUBA tournament and 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Governor you are going to potentially be suing the nc 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: DOUBLEA over this. Thanks for coming on with us. What 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: can you tell us about this story? 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Well, a couple things first, So thank you so much 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: for having me on your program today. I thought West 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Virginia being left out of the tournament was the ultimate 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: miscarriage of justice and robbery at the highest level. And 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: so what we've asked to do is get to the 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: bottom of it and know just what happened. There's so 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: many suspicious things that have come up. The American public 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: deserves to know about it. This is actually the NCAA 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: selection process involves Americans across the country. It's very important 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: here in West Virginia. We care a lot about WVU. 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: We don't have a pro team, so so much fan energy, 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: player energy, and quite frankly resources go in to building 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: the Mountaineers up. And when you have a process where 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: you have an athletic director who skips out of the 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: room yet their reports about payments and centives that may 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: be in place, I think it's time that we have 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: more objective criteria. They say quad one wins really should 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: have mattered. Well, obviously that's not the case if wv 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: left out. They say that they're trying to have a 33 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: fair process. But let's publicize the criteria and have this 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: be much more objective. It's not going to impact the 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: tournament this year, but as sure as heck, could make 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: it a lot better for the future to avoid these 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: kinds of outrageous decisions. 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So for people who don't know, a big controversy 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: is that North Carolina's athletic director sits on the committee. 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: The committee is apprized of many different athletic directors from 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: across the country. There's a conflict there they say when 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: they talk about North Carolina's contention or seating, that the 43 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: athletic director of North Carolina would recuse himself. Do you 44 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: believe that that was on the up and up? Do 45 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: you think that it was fair? Do you think that 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: it was coincidental that North Carolina ended up being the 47 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: last team in? 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: Look, I think at a minimum, it smells a great deal. Right. 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: So part of the reason we ask for information and 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: we want to investigate this is we want to get 51 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: to the bottom of it, right, That's what the process 52 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: is all about. And so when I hear this, and 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: I hear the people jump out of the room at 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: the very end, and you know that North Carolina is 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: the last team in and WU is the first team 56 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: that's out, you know, you start to say, wait a minute, 57 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: when are you jumping in and out? You're in there 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: the entire process, and there's not the transparency about what 59 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: factors really matter. So just to go through a few 60 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: of these details, imagine if you're WVU and you have 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: one hundred and eleven bracketologists who are predicting using their 62 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: own models, that you're going to be in the tournament, 63 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: and then North Carolina twenty seven of the one hundred 64 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: and eleven are suggesting you're going to be in. You 65 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: look at the various ratings and you say, how does 66 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: this stuff happen? So here's what needs to happen for 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: the future. We need to make sure we have the 68 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: better objective information. We're going to get it through the 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: investigation and trying to get all the facts. That's why 70 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: we need need the NC double A to step up 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: on this front. 72 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: Hey, Governor x Buck, I just have a quick question. 73 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: Is there some redress that you want on this or 74 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: do you just want transparency and accountability for what you 75 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: think is a very unfair outcome. 76 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: Look, I think that the NC double A I've found 77 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: over the years and I've been engaged with them on 78 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: a number of different topics. Sometimes they can be very arrogant, 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: and we saw that in the transfer eligibility rules. Some 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: of your listeners may know that I sued over that 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: with a number of other Attorneys general and we brought 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: that rule down. So I think the first thing you 83 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: do is you have transparency and put a little more 84 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: to sunlight on the process. It's the best disinfectant, so 85 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: I said yesterday, Look, it's preliminary to talk about suing them. 86 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: I think what we want to focus on, let's get 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: to the bottom of it. But I will say this, 88 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: if the nc DOUBLEA doesn't act in a transparent manner, 89 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: then they're going to lose a lot credibility nationally. To me, 90 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: that's the important part of the process. That's why a 91 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: governor gets involved, because a governor is standing up for 92 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: the state university in his state and ensuring that people 93 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: know this is a lot of money's at stake, a 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: lot of prides at stake, a lot of hard works 95 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: at state and it's got to change. But we've said, look, 96 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: we're not going to talk about litigation until we get 97 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: to the other point. And I found that that's the 98 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: better approach. And that's why I'm just asking and pressing 99 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: the NCAA to respond to this, because if they don't, 100 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: it's clear they have something to hide. 101 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: All fifty states listen to this program right now. Everybody 102 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: in the state of West Virginia is saying, heck, yeah, governor, 103 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 1: you've got our back. Some people in the other forty 104 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: nine states who are not mountaineer fans, to be fair, 105 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: they're mountaineer fans everywhere it's a great university, great fan base. 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: Are saying, man, should in the political process anybody really 107 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: get involved in who ends up in the Ends tournament. 108 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard this already. Isn't there something else 109 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: for West Virginia's governor and elected officials to be concerned about? 110 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: How would you respond to that criticism? 111 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: Well, a couple of things. First of all, for all 112 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: those saying that there's some blowhards out there that talk 113 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: about this, but they don't know one, you can walk 114 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: and shoe gum at the same time. The second point, 115 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 2: I would say, if you want to effectuate change, you 116 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: actually have to do something. Do you think that if 117 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: anyone's saying that, do they think that it's acceptable to 118 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: have something that smells so bad and no one's going 119 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: to address it? So maybe you shine a little spotlight 120 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: on it. And I know in the past by taking 121 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: this approach, we've caused change to happen. So we talked 122 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: about the transfer eligibility rule. You know, we know that 123 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: nil happened in the past because people spoke out, and 124 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: in West Virginia this is really a big deal that 125 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: we take our sports seriously. We take w seriously. In fact, 126 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: We put a lot of resources invest in w every 127 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: single year, and when someone makes the cutter doesn't that matters. 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: But it's not that we're trying to say that we 129 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: deserve it more than others. What we're saying is when 130 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: the process is tainted, it calls into question what's going on. 131 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: And we're a participant in the process. We're a grinded 132 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: out school, hard workers, and we're not asking for any 133 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: special treatment. We're just asking for the future. We need 134 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: the process to be a lot more clear. So if 135 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: you know that it's about quad win wins and great, 136 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: is it about ten palms? Hey? Great? Is it about 137 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: net rankings? Or is it about an eye test? If 138 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: it's about an eye test, who is sitting in there 139 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: and are their potential conflicts of interest? How are those 140 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: processes raising? These are very reasonable things to raise, and 141 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure why people would be taking the opposite approach, 142 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: but it's important for anyone. You know, I'm a sports 143 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: fan just like anyone else. I care about this stuff. 144 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: And you know, we're not talking about any extreme measures. 145 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: We're just drawing attention to something that matters for our state, 146 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: or frankly matters for a lot of American sports fans. 147 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: Governor, we appreciate the time. Will you still fill out 148 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: a bracket or are you boycotting the brackets? 149 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: Listen, I think that we're gonna fill out a bracket, 150 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna tell you this, wu We're gonna get 151 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: ready for our comeback. And you watch next year our 152 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: basketball team with Coach DeVries, our football team with Rich Rod. 153 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: He always tells his players come with a whole, cold, 154 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: hard edge. That's what we're doing in West Virginia. We're 155 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: speaking out against the efforts sometimes that these blue bloods 156 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: have and they try to keep us down. We're not 157 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: gonna let that happen. 158 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: Governor, we appreciate the time. Thank you, Governor Patrick Morsey 159 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: of West Virginia. Buck, was that all buy in law? 160 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: Did you have any idea that this controversy had arisen 161 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: as you prepare to fill out You already filled out 162 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: your whole bracket as you prepare for the NCAA tournament. 163 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: Clay, I was basically flipping a coin to fill up 164 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: my bracket yesterday. I have no idea and no idea 165 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: what you guys are talking about, and I just wish 166 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 3: all the best of the fans of WVU who feel 167 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: like they got the short. 168 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: End of the stick on this one. 169 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: All right, buck, We've got two listener talkbacks that I 170 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: want to play here. This is the wide range of 171 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: topics that we have had on the show. The first 172 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: one is from an unnamed listener in San Antonio, angry 173 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: at me for presuming that you had to have both 174 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: roosters and hens if you wanted to have eggs. Listen 175 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: to BB here boy, a couple of CURTI fall, can't 176 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: you You don't get a rooster if you want to 177 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: just have eggs. 178 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: The only reason you get roosters because you want more chickens. 179 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 3: All right, So well I was, well, excuse use me, sir, 180 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: I will have you know that also a rooster provides 181 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: protection for the chickens against raccoons and foxes and other predators, 182 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: so it does not, in fact, just to make more chickens. 183 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: The city folk have access to the internet too, all. 184 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: Right, So here's the question. Do most people who have 185 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: hens not have a rooster? Because I would think that 186 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: you would have some protection and or want more egg 187 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: chicks to be able to be developed. Going for I 188 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: don't know. 189 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: Again, my in laws, I mean, it's a little sad 190 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: they had. There was an incident. Yeah, there was an 191 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: incident where a raccoon got into the chicken coop and uh, 192 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: it was. 193 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: It was rough. It gets messy real fast. You don't 194 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: realize how nasty those raccoons can be. Man, it was. 195 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: It took out the hens. It was like a chicken 196 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: blender in there. Yeah it right, oh man, armageddon for 197 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: the chickens. All right, So there people wanted to come 198 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: after me over roosters. Now somebody's angry because not supportive 199 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: enough along with Ubuck of Ukraine and he's furious. This 200 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: is New York City listener on WR here he is. 201 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 5: You have no idea what's going on in Ukraine. Ukraine 202 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 5: is an innocent victim of Putin's aggression and desire to 203 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 5: rebuild the Soviet Empire. They are simply defending their land. 204 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: Wouldn't you do the same thing? What if Tennessee were 205 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 5: invaded or Florida? Would you just lay down and say, oh, 206 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 5: we have too many people dying, let's just give it up. 207 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: Why not screw you? 208 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: Screw us? 209 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: All right? 210 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: Well, so my question would just be what is his answer, 211 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: like we should we actually fight the war ourselves. 212 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: Well, no, I mean nothing that we have said. 213 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: I've never said that Putin wasn't the aggressor we say 214 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: he's a bad guy. But see, this is when people 215 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: make this an emotional argument instead of a national security argument. 216 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: Do you have pathways here? You can continue to fund 217 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 3: a Ukrainian war machine that is run out of people, 218 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: which is true, and not going to gain back any 219 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: more territory than it currently has except through negotiation, which 220 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: is true, or you know you can I don't know, 221 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: you can continue on the current pathway. You know, you 222 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: can either negotiate an end of this thing, you can 223 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: continue doing what it's doing. The fact that there are 224 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: bad people who have done bad things here doesn't change 225 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: the realities on the ground of what they face. I 226 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: don't know why I've never I mean anyway, some people 227 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: they get very op. 228 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't I just want to play it 229 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: because it is like this idea, my argument, and we 230 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: should Native Americans still, Like should Native Americans be running 231 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: around doing suicide bombings because we took their land? 232 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: I mean think about that for a second, right, I mean, 233 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: at what point, at some point you've lost right, at 234 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: some point you can't win, So what do you want 235 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 3: to do unless you're going to make the case that 236 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: Ukraine can beat Russia, which is insane. You have to 237 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: have this thing end and you have to negotiate an 238 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: end to the conflict. Otherwise you're just letting people die. 239 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 3: And it's very easy for people sitting wherever they are 240 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: in this country to say, yeah, you know, it's the 241 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: brave resistance. People are being chewed up by machine gun 242 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: fire and artillery rounds every day for what that's the 243 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: argument I don't really get. I get the argument of 244 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: O Putin's a bad guy, okay, but the war cannot 245 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: be won by Ukraine. I haven't heard anybody say Ukraine's 246 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: going to win the war. If you accept that as 247 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: a reality, even left wingers are like, yeah, they're not 248 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: going to win the war. 249 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: Then what is your solution? That they just continue to 250 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: fight sort of forever, which honestly probably benefits Russia because 251 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: they're just going to inexorably be slowly advancing across Ukraine's territory. 252 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: There isn't a counter argument to let's end the war. 253 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: And I understand, like screw, so you're you know, got angry, 254 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: emotional responses. But I haven't heard a rational, coherent, not 255 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: emotional response about how to end this war. If you 256 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: disagree with us of the opinion that there needs to 257 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: be a ceasefire and a broker piece that will involve 258 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: Russia getting some land. Sometimes bad guys and they were 259 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: the aggressor, they were the bad guy benefit from war. 260 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: That's not unheard of. That, in fact, is much of 261 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: the history of the world. So eventually this thing has 262 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: to end. 263 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look at all the countries that fell 264 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: to communism that shouldn't have but that did through violence. 265 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: And you know, eventually that's just where things are. 266 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: We go. Okay, sorry, you. 267 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: Know China's you know now one Jenkai Czech lost. 268 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: I mean, things happen. 269 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what to say, Like, you have to 270 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: deal with the reality as it stands before you and 271 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: I come back to the same thing, which is, okay, 272 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: what's the what's the better plan? The better plan is 273 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: to just keep funding this thing, so we have to 274 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: keep writing checks for this thing forever. 275 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: Yes, that's according to our unnamed listener Wor who says 276 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: that we are need to be screwed, and not a 277 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: good way screw us. But you know what is going 278 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: to happen this weekend that can make everybody happy, Buck, 279 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: maybe even our listener in wr who's so angry. The 280 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: NCBLEA Tournament play in games actually start tonight. 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Chickens, burgers, so much, yeah, 310 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: so many things, you know, musicals. 311 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: This is uh, this is our listener. 312 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: This is d d Reta listen on KFA k f 313 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: y I Radio with a talkback play it. 314 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: I love pickles on my burgers. 315 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: What's the matter with you? 316 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: You? 317 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 3: Well, well, rita different strokes for different folks. You know, 318 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: I think that pickles are one of those things that 319 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 3: should be left off burgers unless you opt. In some 320 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: places they just put the pickles on the burgers, And 321 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: I don't want some weird vegetable. That's throw a little 322 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 3: slimy vegetable thrown on top of my delicious burger. 323 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: Clay, Oh, pickles are amazing. I think it's the perfect 324 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: condiment to kind of just set off the Chick fil 325 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: a sandwich. I think you're a communist if you take 326 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: the pickle off the Chick fil a sandwich or the hamburger. 327 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: I was it Rita who called in. I'm with her. 328 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: She's a stute woman who understands great cuisine. VIP email 329 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: from Graham. 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Help 348 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: you keep up. Maybe some late nights coming with the 349 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament going on, maybe you're starting to get a 350 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: little bit of a cough in that throat. Get hooked 351 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: up now at chalkcchoq dot com. That's my name, Clay 352 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: for the best possible discount chalk dot com. Our friend 353 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: Josh Hammer joins us now Senior editor at Large of 354 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: news Week and host of The Josh Hammer Show. He's 355 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: got a new book released today. He's coming out on 356 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: the show to tell everybody about it. Israel and Civilization, 357 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: The Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of 358 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: the West. Already doing great numbers on Amazon. Go get 359 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: your copy today. Mister Hammer great to have you with us, Sir. 360 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your take first if I could, 361 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: before we dive into the book, which everyone should go 362 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: get a copy of. I know it's doing great so far. 363 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: The end of the ceasefire in Israel and the new 364 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: posture or the renewed posture perhaps toward Hamas. 365 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 4: What do you make of it? 366 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 7: Well, but great to join you in Thanks for the 367 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 7: book support. Look to me, the ball is clearly in 368 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 7: benjaminten Yahu's court, Buck, I mean Donald Trump is all 369 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 7: in for us as relations. He's used the rhetoric of 370 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 7: give them hell to pay. He's made it very clear 371 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 7: that he and his cabinet are going to stand shoulder 372 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 7: to shoulder with the Israeli governments when it comes to diplomacy, 373 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 7: when it comes to the military, when it comes to 374 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 7: trying to eradicate the entirety of the Hamas political and 375 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 7: military cancer from the Gaza's trip. So for some weeks now, Buck, 376 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 7: I've been saying the ball is in Antityahu's court. I 377 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 7: mean Biebe has basically lived his entire adult life for 378 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 7: moments just like this. He has led his entire adult 379 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 7: life to wait for the opportunity to go in and 380 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 7: do what needs to be done, so to speak, whether 381 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 7: it's in Gaza, whether it's in Lebanon and has Ballah 382 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 7: he did that partially last summer actually, or whether it's 383 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 7: really the grand threat of all in the region, which 384 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 7: of course is the Islamus regime in Tehran. So I'm 385 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 7: not surprised that the ceasefire broke. Frankly, Hamas only has 386 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 7: it self to blame. I mean, with a medieval Islamis 387 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 7: death cult, they had any number of opportunities to avoid 388 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 7: this outcome. They completely brought this upon themselves, and frankly, 389 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 7: this is a necessary thing that has to happen or 390 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 7: if there to be any resolution whatsoever in the region. 391 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: Congrats on the book. I know all the work that 392 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: goes into that. I hope you're having a good time 393 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: with it officially being out. What is the ultimate goal 394 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: do you think when it comes to Gaza? What should happen, 395 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: what's likely to happen, what does history suggest should happen. 396 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 7: It looks like Donald Trump has a certain vision in mind. 397 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 7: I mean, he wants the United States to take over Gaza. 398 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 7: I will I'll be honest with you, that was not 399 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 7: on my personal bingo card. I'm not sure that, frankly, 400 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 7: that it was on Bibi Netsa Nyahu's bingo card. I mean, 401 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 7: you look at his facial expression at the joint press 402 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 7: conference when Donald Trump announced that to the world. It 403 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 7: was quite humorous to look at the way that Netanyahu 404 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 7: and the Israeli officials in the room reacted to that. 405 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 7: I'm open to being persuaded of that. That's not entirely 406 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 7: what my first guest would have been, Buck. Look in 407 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 7: my heart of hearts, I would love to see the 408 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 7: Arabs there find a permanent home in Jordan or Egypt, 409 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 7: which seems to be Donald Trump's preferred approach, and for 410 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 7: Israel to go ahead and take it over. Realistically speaking, 411 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 7: I think the most likely way that this ultimately ends 412 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 7: is you get some sort of consortium of the more 413 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 7: moderate Sunni Arab states, the Saudis and Moradis, Bahraini's, maybe 414 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 7: the Egyptians if the willing to play ball, and they 415 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 7: kind of go in there jointly together and try to 416 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 7: make sure that Islamism and jihadism will not be the 417 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 7: way forward there. But that's going to entail some sort 418 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 7: of American Israeli or some sort of joint presence there 419 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 7: even with that, because frankly, even these guys, the more 420 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 7: moderate forces, I'm not sure just how much we can 421 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 7: trust them for the mid. 422 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 4: To long term. 423 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: Josh. For people who don't know, I was over in 424 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: Israel in December, the amount of Immen's popularity for Trump 425 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: in Israel is off the charts. In fact, Trump, if 426 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: they Israel had had a vote in the American presidential election, 427 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: would have won like he did in West Virginia or Wyoming. 428 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: What do you think Israeli's believe when they see that 429 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: Trump is being attacked by Democrats here as Hitler. 430 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 7: Well, Clay, I'll tell you exactly what Israelis believed, because 431 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 7: I happened to be married to one, and I happened 432 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 7: to have in laws here in Florida where I live. 433 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: Who are them? 434 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 7: And I taught them every day. The Israeli people are 435 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 7: about the trumpiest people in the basically the entire world. 436 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 7: I'm not sure if there's a single foreign country where 437 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 7: Trump has a higher approval rating than the state of 438 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 7: Israel for a very clear and compelling reasons, which is 439 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 7: that Donald Trump is the most pro Israel. Frankly, he's 440 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 7: the most pro Jewish president in American history there. And 441 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 7: you know, this is something of an issue that I 442 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 7: think a lot of people here, even on the Rights 443 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 7: don't fully understand, is how can American Jews vote disproportionately 444 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 7: so much for the Democratic Party while Israeli Jews are 445 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 7: so supportive of the Republican person in this case, that 446 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 7: would be Donald Trump. I actually talked about that quite 447 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 7: a bit in the book Israel and Civilization, and it's 448 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 7: maybe a longer and more complicated conversation there, but the 449 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 7: Israeli people in general are emphatically pro Trump. They even 450 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 7: named the town after him. Claid, there's literally a town 451 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 7: in the Goal On Heights called Trump Heights. Ramat Trump 452 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 7: would be the Hebrew word. I know it because I've 453 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 7: been there. I actually drove by, got out of the car, 454 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 7: took a selfie on the side of the road there 455 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 7: with the road signed Ramat Trump. 456 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: So they're all in. 457 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 7: They're all in for President Trump there, and as they should, 458 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 7: because Donald Trump is deeply supportive of the state of Israel. 459 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the book Josh out today, 460 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 3: Israel and Civilization, The fate of the Jewish Nation and 461 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: the destiny of the West by Josh Hammer. What do 462 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 3: people need to know and why should they pick up 463 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: their copy? 464 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 7: So Buck, the book Israel and Civilization, both fortunately and unfortunately, 465 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 7: I think could not possibly be timelier. I'm a little biased, 466 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 7: but I happen to think that it is very timely. 467 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 7: On the one hand, Buck, you have the woke left, 468 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 7: which is obviously a horrific, cancerous actor. But there is 469 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 7: an increasing portion even of people on the nominal rights, 470 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 7: not a loud portion, but there are some people that 471 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 7: are really calling for the US to abandon Israel, and Frankly, 472 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 7: I think, deep down on these people's hearts, what they 473 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 7: really want to do is ultimately to convince American Christians 474 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 7: to just leave the Jewish shade and leave the Jewish 475 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 7: people behind. So I took upon myself to write this 476 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 7: book basically calling for Jews and Christians alike to lock 477 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 7: arms and stand shoulder to shoulder like never before, and 478 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 7: to fall in love with the biblical inheritance again, because 479 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 7: it actually is that ecumenical biblical inheritance that Frankly founded 480 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 7: this country, going back in seventeen seventy six, Thomas Jefferson, 481 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 7: Benjamin Franklin, they wanted the national seal of the United 482 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 7: States to be Moses parting the Red Sea. Abraham Lincoln, 483 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 7: my own favorite figure in American history, described famously Americans 484 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 7: as an almost chosen people, using that covenantal language from 485 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 7: the Hebrew Bible. The Liberty Bell in Philadelphia literally has 486 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 7: a scriptural quote from the Book of Leviticus right on 487 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 7: the outside of it. 488 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: There. 489 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 7: So the book is kind of painstakingly arguing that's so 490 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 7: much what we take for granted today when it comes 491 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 7: to our law, politics, morals, ethics, and so forth, really 492 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 7: does go back to scripture and that we cannot abandon that. 493 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 7: But the book is also relevant buff because I make 494 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 7: a very clear MAGA America first, hard headed realist case 495 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 7: for US Israel relations and the importance of US Israel ties. 496 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 7: You have a lot of people that are screaming, oh, 497 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 7: the Israel issue. Oh, it's an old neo coon, neo 498 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 7: conservative issue. It's an old Bush administration, Dick Cheney, Don 499 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 7: Rum's issue. And I'm sorry, but the answer is no, 500 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 7: that's not what it is. Donald Trump is not a 501 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 7: neo consernive. He is a foreign policy realist, and he's 502 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 7: the most pro Israel president in American history there if 503 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 7: you want to focus disroportionately on China, which I think 504 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 7: America needs to do, because again I'm a realist who 505 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 7: believes limited resources. The question is, how do you secure 506 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 7: American interest in the Middle East while allowing you to 507 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 7: extra kate resources to the Indo Pacific. And the obvious answer, 508 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 7: which Trump and BB got to in the Abrahamic Coords, 509 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 7: is to empower and embolden our allies in the region, 510 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 7: to secure that region in a way that redounds to 511 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 7: all of our interests. So I think that this explicitly 512 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 7: realist case for us' relations is very timely and very important. 513 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 7: But it's all in there Israel and civilization, the fate 514 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 7: of the Jewish nation, and the destiny of the West Amazon, 515 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 7: Barnes and Noble, wherever you get your. 516 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: Books, Josha, when you look at the history, and I 517 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: got your book and I was looking through it, and 518 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: I was fascinated, because again I just came back from Israel. 519 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: How optimistic are you about peace in the Middle East? 520 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: Because for thousands of years, obviously it hasn't happened. Are 521 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: you optimistic that in the lifetime of the people that 522 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: are listening to us right now, we could have some 523 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: form of peace in the Middle East. 524 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 7: Yes, and no, I think that there that there is 525 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 7: such a thing as a as a more tranquil region, 526 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 7: as a more peaceful region that is less prone to 527 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 7: violent eruptions of jihadism. Frankly, Clay, that's ultimately going to take. 528 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 7: It's gonna have to take the Iranian regime to go, 529 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 7: because the Irani regime currently is is the head of 530 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 7: the stake. They are the source of virtually all of 531 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 7: the violent jiha that goes across the Middle East. Now, 532 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 7: to be clear, I'm not saying that America needs to 533 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 7: go and start toppling the Ayatola. That's not my stance. 534 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 7: But somewhere, some way or another, whether it comes from 535 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 7: sanctions or the or the Mike Pompeo esque maximum pressure campaign, 536 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 7: that regime is going to have to go. So at 537 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 7: some point, God willing in a post Islamic republic aroan 538 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 7: there where jihad is on the decline, then yes, I 539 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 7: think the Middle East could be a lot more stable 540 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 7: than it is today. Has Blah, the Hoho, thys Hamas, 541 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 7: all these forces would be subdued, if not made completely 542 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 7: extinct without their major benefactor in Tehran. On the other hand, 543 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 7: you still do have the issue of Islam, and there 544 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 7: are very real questions I think are worth asking and 545 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 7: exploring as to the extent to which Islam will ever itself, 546 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 7: even any more moderate form, ever be comfortable fully with 547 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 7: a Jewish state there in the heart of the Middle East. 548 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 7: And I don't really fully know the answer to that, 549 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 7: but I do think that after Iran goes and God willing, 550 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 7: going to be at some point again, not that the 551 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 7: US has to topple them, but at some point that 552 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 7: regime is going to have to go at some point, Clay, 553 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 7: after that, I think things will definitely be better, if 554 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 7: not fully solved. 555 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: Israel and civilization, the fate of the Jewish nation, and 556 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: the destiny of the West. Josh Hammer is the author. 557 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: Go get your copy of the book today. Hammer time, 558 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: great to have you, my friend. Thanks for being here, gentlemen, 559 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: my pleasure. 560 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 7: Thank you so much. 561 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: Many people will use the word disruption to describe the 562 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: beginning of twenty twenty five. It's appropriate. We elected a 563 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: president to disrupt the deep state, to remove roadblocks and 564 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: reduce the size of government. There are bound to be 565 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: other disruptions as well, and they could hit the financial markets, 566 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: the housing markets, the whole range of things. So I 567 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: invited somebody with great experience covering the financial markets, somebody 568 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: with a great track record for predictions in this space, 569 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: to talk to me in a videotaped interview that we've 570 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: posted online. While I might have helped to organize the 571 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 3: online video event, it was my dad, Mason Sexton Senior, 572 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: that made the predictions possible about these disruptions ahead. This 573 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 3: is my father's area of expertise, the financial markets and 574 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: how they affect everyday Americans. I think you'll find it 575 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: most beneficial. My dad has made his living researching and 576 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: predicting the stock market for decades, and when he is right, 577 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: he is right in a big way. Jewish credit. My 578 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: dad created a name for himself back in the day 579 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: on Wall Street when he called the crash of eighty 580 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: seven in advance on television. 581 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 4: Still can see the videos of it. 582 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: You can still see his prediction, by the way, his 583 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: forecast for the future that affects you and your finances 584 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: now at this website Disruption twenty twenty five dot com 585 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: video is free for you to watch, and it is 586 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: worth the time to check it out. Go check this 587 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: out today. 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We've 596 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: covered a saying that we talked about the Nobel Peace Prize, 597 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: we talked about all sorts. 598 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: Of economies, we talked about, you know, the important things. 599 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: It's all about pickles and chickens on the talkbacks. 600 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: That is true. And let's listen to junior up in 601 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: New York City. He has an idea for Buck Hi Clay, 602 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: this is a junior from Long Eyean. 603 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: Fuck. 604 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 4: Don't eat pickles on his burgers. He's eating pistason cobbler garbage. 605 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: Please take away another one of his man cards for 606 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: the day. I don't think he deserves one. Your hometown 607 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: of New York junior off the top rope on you 608 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: Buck pro He's right. 609 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: Juniors from Long Island, to be clear, which is almost 610 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: like its own state. But yes, it is nearby to 611 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: New York. And I would just say this junior, it 612 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: was pistachio crem Broulet, not cobbler. Cobblers for peasants. 613 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: How dare you? How did cobbler cobbler is? 614 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: Who does I'm just saying. I'm just saying, hold on. 615 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: You don't like fruit plus sugar plus delectable baked bread. 616 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: It's I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Oh my god, I think 617 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: I'm just. 618 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: I cobbler universe. Better light up buck Sex than right now, 619 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: because every now and then, I remember this, this was 620 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: early days of Twitter, uh, before I really understood how 621 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: it worked. This is like two thousand and eight or whatever. 622 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: I have Twitter account, and I was like, man, you know, 623 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: I really love cobbler, like I like all types of cobbler. 624 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: And when I tweet, I think I was like eating 625 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: and I put a picture up or something, and people 626 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: came after me like I was the anti crime. I 627 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: was like, who is anti cobbler? By the way, BlackBerry 628 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: cobbler the best cobbler on the planet, rarely offered, but 629 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: when it is the best of all cobblers. And that 630 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: was kind of my welcome to social media moment, where 631 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what opinion you have, there's somebody out 632 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: there that is outraged that you could have that opinion 633 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: that will immediately react. 634 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 4: But is cobbler not just a poor man's pie? Am 635 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 4: I missing something? 636 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 8: Isn't that? 637 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: Isn't that just isn't cobbler poor man's pie? What's the difference? 638 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: Well, now you've kind of blown my mind because I 639 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: never have thought about what the difference is between a 640 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: cobbler and a pie. I mean, I kind of think 641 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: of apple pie and apple cobbler is basically the same thing, 642 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: except a pie is circular and a cobbler tends to 643 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: be rectangular in my experience. So now my mind. Actually, 644 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: you've thrown me for a loop here because I've never 645 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: really thought I think the cobbler has a thicker bread 646 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: based than the typical pie, which is why it's better. 647 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: That would be my on the fly distinction. I don't cook, 648 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: as everyone knows, I've never baked anything in my life. 649 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: If it can't be put in a microwave. I don't 650 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: know how to make it, so I clearly not the 651 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: the sterling knowledgeable person here. Cobble have a crust? Yeah, 652 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't even think I mean that seems like it 653 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 1: not the right description pie for peasants. Am I am 654 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: I really off on this one. I'm just throwing it 655 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: out there. 656 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: You know. 657 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: The crust I mean is I think oftentimes very overrated 658 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: on the pie might have just come after people in 659 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: an aggressive way. 660 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: Here Big Pie is coming after Clay with that one. 661 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: That is how dare the crust is really where the 662 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 3: expertise comes in one confession, I was afraid that I 663 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 3: might be photographed in the midst of this. In Steamboat Springs, 664 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 3: I took the kids into an ice cream shop. 665 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 4: Buck. 666 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: There are a bunch of dads there from Dallas that 667 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: listen to the show, So shout out dads from Dallas 668 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: if they hear this. In Steamboat Springs, my kids didn't 669 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: want to get ice cream. I then violated my rule 670 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: on some level. I was a man eating an ice 671 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: cream cone. Nobody else was eating ice cream. Now, I 672 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: think as an exception for alone, though your whole thing 673 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: was you're not a man alone getting it you'd your kids, 674 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: and my kids got like candy, right, they got like 675 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: Reese's pieces, Reese's peanut buttercups, like that was their choice. 676 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: If there were a photo, I don't want AI suggesting 677 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: that I was eating ice cream by myself. I just 678 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: don't want that out there. 679 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: Would what would be worse for you to get caught 680 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,479 Speaker 3: in a photo eating like standing alone in the line 681 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: at the dairy queen with like a mix like chocolate 682 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 3: vanilla swirl, or or walking through the airport with a 683 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: mask on. Oh mask by far right, I mean, people 684 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: would think that I was pranking them. I think if 685 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: I had a mask on, What if I wore the 686 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: mask on Air Force one in the media section, like, actually. 687 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 4: I think he might kick you off the plane. I 688 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 4: think he might be like off the plane, mask man, 689 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 4: off the plane. 690 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: What if I just sat down with the media with 691 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: a mask on and said, I really wish you guys 692 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: would take the virus more seriously. They're gonna hate me 693 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: in the media anyway. Me wearing a mask in the 694 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: banding that they wear masks on the airplane would be 695 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: I have a mask on. 696 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 3: I kind of want you to do this In videotape. 697 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: It like go up to the ap reporters like, oh, 698 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, we don't wear masks anymore here. 699 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: I didn't do this