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Speaker 3: Carry up at Carrie twenty five Roads. You can find

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Speaker 4: Dan, if you weren't gonna do what I was gonna do, it,

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Speaker 4: So I'm glad you got it out first. Uh, but uh,

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Speaker 4: it's good to hear your voice.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: It's been a it's been what a week and a half,

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Speaker 4: two weeks possibly that I that I've been on with.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you went to it's been a little yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because we're at the super Bowl all week and went

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Speaker 3: to the game on Sunday. You were in Alabama. So

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Speaker 3: it's it's good to catch up, and it's good to

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Speaker 3: catch up with everyone here and we are talking what

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Speaker 3: everybody is talking about. We're talking about Utah Jazz basketball.

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Speaker 3: It's the only time in the last I think, I

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Speaker 3: think about nineteen eight right that the Utah Jazz have

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Speaker 3: been the topic of conversation. But they were the topic

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Speaker 3: of conversation this week here on stut God's and Company,

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Speaker 3: and they've been the topic of conversation throughout the NBA

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Speaker 3: this week because of tanking. The NBA tried to put

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Speaker 3: a stop to it yesterday by handing down fines not

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Speaker 3: only to the Utah Jazz but also to the Indiana Pacers.

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Speaker 3: But it was the Jazz who were fined five hundred

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars for conduct detrimental to the league. That's how

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Speaker 3: the league characterized it related to their games against the

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Speaker 3: Magic and the Miami Heat. Heat game happened earlier this week,

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Speaker 3: a Magic game almost a week ago. It was during

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Speaker 3: those contests that Laurie Markinen and Jaron Jackson Junior were

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Speaker 3: playing in the game and then were removed and didn't

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Speaker 3: play in the fourth quarter. The crazy thing is is

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Speaker 3: the Jazz actually ended up beating the Heat in the

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Speaker 3: game that they got fined five hundred thousand dollars, something

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Speaker 3: that Jazz owner Ryan Smith pointed out on x But

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Speaker 3: I find the outrage to what the Utah Jazz are doing,

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Speaker 3: and it's specifically the Jazz because I don't hear people

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Speaker 3: and I find it almost in a way hypocritical that

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Speaker 3: better their organization. It may be tanking, but Carrie to

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Speaker 3: the point that we haven't spoken about the Utah Jazz

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Speaker 3: and a national conversation in years, maybe decades, and now

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Speaker 3: this is the opportunity that we're going to start talking

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Speaker 3: I find it absolutely ridiculous because I have absolutely no

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean personally, I don't think I care either.

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Speaker 4: I don't even I don't. I can't remember the last

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Speaker 4: time I watched a Utah Jazz game besides when they

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Speaker 4: why we have to find these stories, and you know,

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Speaker 4: have conversations. Right You can't talk about Lebron forever, can't

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Speaker 4: They need something to cling on hang on to. As

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Speaker 3: And I'm curious in what what Moncey and Jason and

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: Ready, yeah, bringing it?

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Speaker 3: Bringing Manzi? Is this ridiculous that the NBA find or

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Speaker 3: should the Jazz clean up their act?

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Speaker 5: I thought it was ridiculous. I am with you guys.

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Speaker 5: I feel like they they did what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 5: They played the stars. I'm confused here. I'm confused.

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Speaker 6: So when I saw this, I was like, this is funny.

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Speaker 5: It's funny because the NBA is just like so desperate

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's desperation on people that

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Speaker 3: something that now now we're up in arms over tanking,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think that the product is magnificent right now.

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Speaker 3: There is something missing. I think it is a bigger

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Speaker 3: issue on why maybe the NBA is because I've heard

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Speaker 3: various topics on social media, various outlets on social media

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Speaker 3: And I feel that there's a bit of an NFL

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Speaker 3: we're right out of the Super Bowl, so now let's

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Speaker 3: about the NBA is complain, And I just I don't

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Speaker 3: that we have looked at tanking previously. And I think

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Speaker 3: the reason why the Jazz, there's two reasons why I

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Speaker 3: the Jazz pulling their players, which is for whatever reason

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Speaker 3: is I think gambling plays a big role in this,

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Speaker 3: and because of how gambling has exploded in the landscape.

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Speaker 3: If you're making a bet on the Utah Jazz and

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Speaker 3: Now we know that Jared Jackson Junior is not going

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Speaker 3: think part of this conversation, but not maybe the immediate part.

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Speaker 3: But if your play sing a bet and your bet

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Speaker 3: and maybe there's a way that they're getting this message

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Speaker 3: as are eighteen thirty eight, they're nine games back of

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Speaker 3: there would really not be a reason for them to

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Speaker 3: especially in a weighted lottery like it was last year,

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Speaker 3: that this has been going on and on and on

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Speaker 3: their investment. Now are thought of is the bad guy

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Speaker 4: There, that's a good point about the betting. But I'm

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Speaker 4: out there betting UH, the wise thing to do with

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Speaker 4: not to be not to bet on the Utah Jazz

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Speaker 4: and UH and not their players as well, because obviously

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Speaker 4: we know that. But then it's a hundred you might

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Speaker 4: be onto something with that though, with the betting part

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Speaker 4: and the fines that they sent out to Utah. I mean,

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Speaker 4: what what really is five hundred thousand to an organization.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's I think it's a slap on

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Speaker 4: and the people that are one hundred percent losing a

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Speaker 4: lot of money in these in these gambling circles trying

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Speaker 4: It is a little bit of a hit to the

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Speaker 3: I give the Indiana Pacers they they are. They got

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Speaker 3: that Indiana is tanking this year. And one of the

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Speaker 3: reasons why is because they don't have Tyre's Halliburton. But

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Speaker 3: I think people would say that's if you were to

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Speaker 3: people would say that that's fortunate timing. Like, in a way,

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Speaker 3: it's bad luck that Halliburton had his injury, but this

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Speaker 3: could set things up. It's set the San Antonio Spurs

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Speaker 3: up right when David Robinson had his back injury. How

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Speaker 3: cost him most of his season, and then that following

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Speaker 3: the San Antonio Spurs not winning games. No, we're talking

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Speaker 3: But that was all set up because of an unfortunate injury.

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Speaker 3: And we're not talking about the Indiana Pacers. So for

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Speaker 3: some reason, it's okay for the Indiana Pacers to tank,

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Speaker 3: but it's not okay for the Utah Jazz, who, by

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Speaker 3: the way, gave up assets to get a star player

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Speaker 3: this guy could be a piece that could help us

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Speaker 3: for years to come and be a big part of

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Speaker 3: part of our future. I think that's good for the

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Speaker 3: NBA and to protect that investment in a year where

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Speaker 3: we've only got two months left of the season. Who

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Speaker 3: really cares. But for some reason we're throwing darts and

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Speaker 3: taking shots at the Utah Jazz when I think they're

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Speaker 4: Oh, they are making smart basketball decisions for the organization.

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Speaker 4: The thing about Utah and what I hear when I

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Speaker 3: Well. Also, they don't care again players don't care where

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Speaker 3: very difficult Western Conference. It's it's ridiculous that people are

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we need something to talk about, Dan, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: Brother, Well, Lebron James is always the topic of conversation.

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Speaker 3: He had something to say last night that may have

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Speaker 3: you roll your eyes. It is Stuve Gotson Company Live.

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Speaker 3: But there's no Stu Gotts, but you've got the company.

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Speaker 3: He is the all pro Carrey Rhoads, I'm Dan Bayer,

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Speaker 3: Monte Bolanos is here. Jason Stewart's here, Iowa Sam all

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gottson Company Live.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you who has won a ring? Sam Donald

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Speaker 3: Seahawks quarterback. It was quite the topic of discussion yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I'm Stu Gottson Company. Whose career would you rather have?

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Speaker 3: Sam Donalds or Dan Marinos? Would Dan Marino want Sam

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Speaker 3: Donald's career? Sam Donald want Dan Marino's career? Just some

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Speaker 3: of the conversation Steve Gottson Company had yesterday. I gave

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Speaker 3: my thoughts. I sided with Izzy on this argument. Now

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Speaker 3: Stu Gotts isn't here today. It is Me and Carry Rhods.

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Speaker 3: Monsie Belamios is here. Jason Stewart's here, Iowa Sam is here.

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Speaker 3: In as much as we love our opinions, Stu's opinion,

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Speaker 8: We never played it down in the National Football League,

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Speaker 8: So let's ask someone who's not only played it down,

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm taking Dan Marino. Dan Marino even without winning

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Speaker 4: I think the narrative now in the world that we

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Speaker 4: Yes, said yes, that's too close to comfort for me.

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Speaker 3: Dan, I agree, I thought it was a no brainer.

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Speaker 3: and I think that that's what Dan Marino did. Now,

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Speaker 4: What was their argument Dan? What did they say ring?

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Speaker 9: for one hundred million bucks with the Seahawks. Over the

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Speaker 9: course of his seventeen year career, Dan Marino made fifty

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Speaker 9: one million dollars.

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Speaker 4: How many years day? Seventeen years? Fifty one mil? Wow?

435
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Speaker 4: Can I can I trade? Can I can I trade

436
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Speaker 4: for Sam?

437
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Speaker 3: Donals?

438
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Speaker 4: Change your calculus?

439
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Speaker 3: Sam? Are you sticking with Sam? Orre you going with Dan.

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Speaker 10: Sam donaldy be making more money than Dan Marino over

441
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Speaker 10: the course of his career already has. But I know

442
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Speaker 10: one thing, Sam Donald and Joe Flacco never appeared in

443
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Speaker 10: a ACE vent or a Pet Detective there, So I mean, listen, Marino.

444
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Speaker 10: I mean, he'd like to have the ring, but he's

445
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Speaker 10: he had a storied career they did.

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Speaker 5: I just think it's like you the way many of

447
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Speaker 5: you guys talk about Dan Marino, because I did not

448
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 5: watch Jim right, the way you guys talk about him,

449
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 5: you you met, he seems like a legend. And I'm sorry,

450
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Speaker 5: but Joe Flacco and Sam Donald are not legends. I'm

451
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Speaker 5: not saying that maybe Sam Donald can't get there, but

452
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Speaker 5: like he's not a legend.

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Speaker 6: And the way Dan Marino is described is.

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Speaker 4: A legend, it's almost like mythical. Yeah, really, because if

455
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Speaker 4: you missed him like you did, Manci, like you see

456
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Speaker 4: old video and you just see like him and Duper

457
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Speaker 4: and Clayton, and I've.

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Speaker 6: Seen videos like you know what I'm saying, Like I

459
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Speaker 6: have looked back, but it's like.

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Speaker 5: I I just feel like you guys really make it

461
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Speaker 5: seem I like mythical, because.

462
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Speaker 6: Even though he didn't win. I feel like that's what

463
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Speaker 6: makes his story so interesting.

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Speaker 3: Sure, you know what I mean. Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah, Sam.

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Speaker 10: Another thing I forgot to mention, if you've been turned

466
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Speaker 10: into a Simpsons character, you've made it.

467
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Speaker 4: And Dan Marino was in.

468
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Speaker 10: A episode in season ten of The Simpsons when all

469
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Speaker 10: Homer and his friends go to the super Bowl and

470
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Speaker 10: Dan Marino throws a pass.

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Speaker 3: We're bordering on I think we're bordering on Kirk hammet here. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm kidding Sam. The thing that I why I think

473
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Speaker 3: that this is genius and it's gonna lead to another

474
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Speaker 3: point is I think in a way, it's respecting Sam

475
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Speaker 3: Donald in disrespecting Dan Marino to have this conversation. Now

476
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Speaker 3: that's because I'm on I don't know. Maybe it's because

477
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Speaker 3: the side that I'm on, but I feel that there

478
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Speaker 3: is respect being put on Sam Donald's name. Maybe maybe

479
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Speaker 3: it's not. Maybe we're just saying because he has the ring,

480
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Speaker 3: everything else is, you know, just or that is just

481
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Speaker 3: superior to everything else, including all of the problems. Maybe

482
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Speaker 3: it is disrespectful, but that's kind of how I am

483
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Speaker 3: trying to wrap my arms around it, because as a

484
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Speaker 3: Seahawks fan as just someone who was so excited just

485
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Speaker 3: to see them win. My view of Sam Donald and

486
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Speaker 3: his career in what he just accomplished on Sunday now

487
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Speaker 3: comes from the view of a Seahawks fan, where I

488
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Speaker 3: don't care if he threw for eighteen yards on Sunday

489
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Speaker 3: as long as they got the win. So all of

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Speaker 3: the Sam Donald stuff behind that is actually a little

491
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Speaker 3: difficult for me to see because I'm still basking in

492
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Speaker 3: the glory of that team winning the Super Bowl. But

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Speaker 3: I understand why it's such a unique story because of

494
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Speaker 3: how we review how we viewed Sam Donald, and I

495
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Speaker 3: viewed Sam Donald the same way until he signed with

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks last offseason. Right like, I'm watching his career

497
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Speaker 3: from afar with no vested interest whatsoever. Now, the only

498
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Speaker 3: thing that mattered to me, I didn't care if he

499
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Speaker 3: threw forty touchdowns. I didn't want him to turn the

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Speaker 3: football over because that's how you would lose football games,

501
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Speaker 3: and he didn't at the end of the season, and

502
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Speaker 3: that was magnificent. So I feel that there's a way

503
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Speaker 3: that I look at it differently. But it's also the

504
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Speaker 3: respect angle, and like, did Sam Darnold earn respect? Did

505
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Speaker 3: the Seahawks earn respect? And I think that they did.

506
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Speaker 3: But there's also the point of this Seahawks team. When

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Speaker 3: we talk about disrespect, it comes in a variety of ways.

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Speaker 3: And I had a couple of people when asking me

509
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Speaker 3: about the Super Bowl, knowing that I'm a Seahawks fan,

510
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: the first or second thing that they told me was

511
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Speaker 3: that the game's stunk. Well, you know, I didn't care

512
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Speaker 3: about that. That didn't matter to me as a bad

513
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Speaker 3: game to watch. Yeah, well I don't care. My team

514
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Speaker 3: held up the Lamartin Trophy at the end. But it's

515
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Speaker 3: also this kind of way of downplaying what they've done.

516
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Speaker 3: And now there is the conversation that the Seahawks could

517
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Speaker 3: be disrespected, at least their fan base feels, and if

518
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Speaker 3: the NFL opens the season next year with the game

519
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Speaker 3: other than theirs on primetime TV in Seattle against a

520
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: top level opponent, that if the Seahawks don't get the

521
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: host that opening night game, whether it be on a

522
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Speaker 3: Wednesday or a Thursday, that that would be the NFL

523
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Speaker 3: disrespecting them. And the news that came out yesterday was

524
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Speaker 3: that the NFL is deciding on whether to put the

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Speaker 3: Rams forty nine Ers game in Melbourne, Australia, which is

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Speaker 3: likely to be Week one. Whether they would have that

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Speaker 3: on a Wednesday or a Thursday, And if they had

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Speaker 3: it on a Wednesday, oh my goodness, it would maybe

529
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Speaker 3: overshadow the Seahawks opening up the season. Now, this wasn't

530
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Speaker 3: breaking news if you listen to the I Want Your

531
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Speaker 3: Flex podcast, because last week at the Super Bowl I

532
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Speaker 3: sat down with Kyle Yuschek and his wife Kristen as

533
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Speaker 3: the news broke that the forty nine Ers were going

534
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Speaker 3: to be playing the Rams in Melbourne, Australia. Yea, here

535
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Speaker 3: was that conversation in what Kristen and Kyle had to

536
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Speaker 3: say about going down Under when you look at next year,

537
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Speaker 3: because the news just broke today of the trip to Australia,

538
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Speaker 3: is that some of you guys are excited about? Did

539
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Speaker 3: you have a heads up about?

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Speaker 5: To be honest, I didn't even know about this until yesterday,

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Speaker 5: so we haven't even had a second to even talk

542
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Speaker 5: about it.

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Speaker 3: But that sounds like so much fun.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know what I don't know, is it a

545
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Speaker 11: do you know? Is it on Thursday? Is it the

546
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Speaker 11: first game in the season.

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Speaker 3: I know that they were going to because of the

548
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Speaker 3: time difference. Yeah, they haven't set the date, but that

549
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Speaker 3: was going to be a little bit earlier for you guys. Okay.

550
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Speaker 11: I had always said, even before I knew about us

551
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Speaker 11: playing there, that if we were to do an international game,

552
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Speaker 11: especially one in Australia, I would want it to be

553
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Speaker 11: week one, just because you have, you know, more time

554
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Speaker 11: for traveling and acclimating. And then usually that first game

555
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Speaker 11: of the season is let off on a Thursday or

556
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Speaker 11: Friday or whatever, so you know, you have those extra

557
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Speaker 11: couple days to prepare for the week two. I would

558
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Speaker 11: hate if that had happened Week eight. You're traveling Eli, Like,

559
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Speaker 11: how do you how do you deal with that?

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Speaker 3: You know?

561
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Speaker 11: So so I'm excited about It's gonna be a cool experience.

562
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Speaker 3: So a bit of foreshadowing there from Kyle yust Check

563
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Speaker 3: and he had heard that maybe they're gonna end up

564
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Speaker 3: playing on a Thursday. Do you think it's disrespectful if

565
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Speaker 3: the Rams to the Seahawks, disrespectful to the Seahawks, if

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Speaker 3: the Rams and Niners play the opener before the Seahawks

567
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Speaker 3: take the field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it is disrespectful, but I also think

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Speaker 4: that will be the best case scenario for your Seahawks, Dan,

570
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Speaker 4: I mean, they already feel a little bit of slight.

571
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Speaker 4: They already feel a little bit of disrespect after winning

572
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Speaker 4: the winning the trophy this year, and obviously there's been

573
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Speaker 4: you know, some praise for their defense. Obviously played you know,

574
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Speaker 4: out of this world, and they've been good all year.

575
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Speaker 4: But still there's been slights. There have been players taking

576
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Speaker 4: taking shots at your quarterback and other players on your

577
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Speaker 4: team on social media. So the disrespect is building, and

578
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Speaker 4: for that to have an extra layer going into next season,

579
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Speaker 4: the motivation for them to come out and compete and

580
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Speaker 4: do it again and prove themselves. You know a lot

581
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Speaker 4: of times when you win that Super Bowl, there is

582
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Speaker 4: the possibility of a hangover, right, But with all the

583
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: stuff that's going on in all these little these little

584
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Speaker 4: veiled shots and perceived shots taken at the Seahawks, I

585
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Speaker 4: think it'd be beneficial. So would it be disrespectful, yes,

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Speaker 4: But I think that's a good place for Seattle to

587
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Speaker 4: kind of live in.

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Speaker 3: I think it's one of those you know, to the

589
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Speaker 3: victor go the spoil sort of thing, and we talk

590
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Speaker 3: about when your team wins, how great it was to

591
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: order the sports Illustrated Championship, you know, like fan pack. Yeah,

592
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Speaker 3: I mentioned on my ESPN app on my phone, I

593
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Speaker 3: have the Seahawks as my favorite team, so their score

594
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Speaker 3: is always up there. So for the next two or

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Speaker 3: three months, when there isn't an NFL schedule, I'll still

596
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Speaker 3: have the Seahawks score over the Patriots on my scoreboard

597
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Speaker 3: and it's a win like not many people can do

598
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Speaker 3: that unless your team stinks and maybe won the final

599
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Speaker 3: regular season game and that's all that you have. But

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Speaker 3: that's going to be fortunate enough to be on my phone,

601
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Speaker 3: I think opening Night is. But actually, as a Seahawks fan,

602
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Speaker 3: I love your point about maybe the disrespect would help Seattle.

603
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Speaker 3: They would never do this to the Chiefs. They would

604
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Speaker 3: never do this to the Eagles, and those teams got

605
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Speaker 3: were able to open up on Thursday nights these previous

606
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Speaker 3: last couple of seasons after winning their Super Bowls. But

607
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't doubted if they did it to the Seahawks,

608
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Speaker 3: and they've done this before. The Ravens wanted to open

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Speaker 3: up at home, but this wasn't an NFL deal when

610
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Speaker 3: they won the Super Bowl. The Orioles had a scheduling

611
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Speaker 3: conflict and the Orioles refused to work with the Ravens

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Speaker 3: on it, so Baltimore had to open up on the

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Speaker 3: road against Denver and then Peyton Manning threw like seven

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Speaker 3: touchdowns against them. And then when the NFL celebrated their

615
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Speaker 3: one hundredth anniversary season, they had the Packers and Bears

616
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Speaker 3: open up in Chicago as the longest rivalry in the

617
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Speaker 3: NFL to open up that one hundredth season. But the

618
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Speaker 3: Patriots had won it the year before, so I don't

619
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Speaker 3: think you were missing a lot because New England was

620
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Speaker 3: always hosting those opening games because they were winning all

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Speaker 3: those Super Bowls, so it wasn't something that you missed.

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Speaker 3: But for the Seahawks, the only have it been the second.

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Speaker 3: I can understand why it would be disrespectful. But what

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Speaker 3: I think the NFL should actually do carry just make

625
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Speaker 3: it a week long celebration. Just have a game each night.

626
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Speaker 3: Play one in Brazil, play one in Australia. Have it

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Speaker 3: on a Tuesday, have it on a Wednesday. Have the

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Speaker 3: home opener be on Thursday. Yeah, it's not the first one,

629
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Speaker 3: but make it a week long celebration. Do it that way,

630
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Speaker 3: where you have a game each night and it would

631
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Speaker 3: help the travel of those long international trips, but it

632
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: would be instead of having a Thursday, just a Thursday

633
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Speaker 3: night affair. And by the way, they can't play Friday

634
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Speaker 3: because of the rule that doesn't allow them past a

635
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Speaker 3: certain point of the calendar to conflict with with high

636
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Speaker 3: school football. So Friday is actually out of the mix

637
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Speaker 3: this year because of the later start to the season.

638
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: But if you played a game on a Tuesday and

639
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: on a Wednesday and the Seahawks open up on Thursday night,

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Speaker 3: it would be disrespectful, but I don't think it would

641
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Speaker 3: take anything away from that night, knowing that there were

642
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Speaker 3: two other final scores from earlier that week. So I'm

643
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Speaker 3: all for it being motivation. I don't think it's as

644
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Speaker 3: big of a deal as maybe others would think. Yeah,

645
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 3: and in fact, they think that the nfls will take

646
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Speaker 3: advantage more of that week after Labor Day to try

647
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Speaker 3: to celebrate the game and play as many games as

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Speaker 3: you can spread out in that first week of the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even think Dan, I don't think it's

650
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Speaker 4: even that big a deal for the players to be

651
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Speaker 4: I like to be honest, right, like, they're's most players

652
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Speaker 4: that come in and just playing the schedule whatever's out there,

653
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: right there are some people that have a deeper understanding

654
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Speaker 4: of it. And you had the conversation with Kyle and

655
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Speaker 4: him being aware of, you know, not wanting to take

656
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Speaker 4: those international flights throughout the middle of the season or

657
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Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. So the fact that we

658
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Speaker 4: weren't even privy to that during my time that I

659
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Speaker 4: don't think it was as much of a thing. But yeah,

660
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Speaker 4: with all these international games, it is is a little

661
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Speaker 4: bit tricky.

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Speaker 3: Now if you were to ask the Seahawks, would you

663
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Speaker 3: rather open up at home or travel nineteen hours to

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Speaker 3: go play a game in Australia? What you know a

665
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Speaker 3: day prior or what would you rather do? Oh yeah, I.

666
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Speaker 4: Think so as well.

667
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Speaker 3: I have no problems with people trying to find ways

668
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Speaker 3: that they were disrespected. Everybody does it in their own

669
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Speaker 3: Can you believe that? Can you believe that that that

670
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Speaker 3: waiter said to us pure disrespect? But I actually find

671
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Speaker 3: that it's much ado about nothing. And if the Seahawks

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Speaker 3: don't open or have the first game of the season

673
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Speaker 3: but open on a Thursday night. By the way, there

674
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Speaker 3: are some Mariner conflicts. I looked up. The Mariners have

675
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Speaker 3: a home set against the Rangers on the Tuesday, Wednesday,

676
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Speaker 3: and Thursday, So we'll have to see if they maybe

677
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Speaker 3: move a game to Labor Day or try to do

678
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Speaker 3: something to make that feasible. But there's probably gonna have

679
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Speaker 3: to be some jockeying of schedules considering those stadiums are

680
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Speaker 3: right next to each other and would probably just be

681
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: a bit of a headache. But we'll have to see.

682
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Speaker 3: But I just don't think that I don't think it's

683
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Speaker 3: a I know that the NFL wouldn't move it off

684
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Speaker 3: the Eagles and the Chiefs, and maybe they just feel

685
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 3: that with the Seahawks. Okay, But to your point, Carry

686
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Speaker 3: I think is well put use it as disrespect and

687
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Speaker 3: use it as motivation, But otherwise it really doesn't bother me,

688
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Speaker 3: even as a Seahawks fan.

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Speaker 3: South Florida to the super Bowl to Chicago. So out today,

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Speaker 3: but we've got them covered also out of the game,

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Speaker 3: Chris Paul carry Roads. I don't know if you hear

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Speaker 3: Moncey's voice kind of you know, kind of cracking on

701
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Speaker 3: the news, Chris Paul sad day, sad day in the

702
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Speaker 3: NBA carry for some Yeah, sad day, Moncey for you

703
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Speaker 3: as Chris Paul calls it quits after twenty one years.

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Speaker 6: Upset.

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Speaker 5: What I'm really upset about is that I my jersey

706
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Speaker 5: is at my parents' house or else I would have

707
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Speaker 5: been wearing today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I went through my closet.

709
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Speaker 5: I was like, it has to be in my parents'

710
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 5: House's half of my stuff is still there.

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Speaker 4: How how sad is it for you? Monci? Like what

712
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Speaker 4: I mean, I know he was a really good player

713
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Speaker 4: with the Clippers, and obviously he is.

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Speaker 5: He is lop city, you know what I'm saying, along

715
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Speaker 5: with like Blake Griffin, of course, But I think what

716
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Speaker 5: makes me so extra sad about the situation is what

717
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 5: happened this year with the Clippers. That really hurts me

718
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Speaker 5: because that's not how he wanted to go out. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and I don't think that's how many people wanted him

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Speaker 5: to go out.

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Speaker 6: And I said, I was like, I will pay to

722
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Speaker 6: go watch Chris Paul.

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Speaker 5: I went to open I've never been to an opening

724
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Speaker 5: day for the Clippers, and I went this year to

725
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Speaker 5: see Chris Paul's last opening day, and then they took

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Speaker 5: away my option to do that again the rest of

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Speaker 5: the season, even if it was to watch him ten minutes,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And so that's what makes

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Speaker 5: me super sad about it. But I mean, what an

730
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Speaker 5: amazing career. You know, point god, point God.

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Speaker 6: I say that he did, he did, he did. It

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Speaker 6: was very exciting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan, what's your what's your over overarching I guess

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Speaker 4: response to this or do you have any feelings towards

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Speaker 4: Chris Paul and his retirement?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I do, because I do, because I just feel

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Speaker 3: that there is there was so many opportunities for him

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Speaker 3: for his narrative around him to change, and it just

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00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 3: couldn't happen for like specifically, and I know Monty doesn't

740
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: want to hear this in Houston, in being so close

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Speaker 3: to an NBA Finals and then his body breaks down,

742
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Speaker 3: so so like Chris Paul. For as great as he

743
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Speaker 3: was in all of the accolades and the All Star

744
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Speaker 3: Games and the All NBA nominations and the Hall he'll

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Speaker 3: be in the Hall of Fame with all of that,

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Speaker 3: I still can't get past that Chris Paul is the

747
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Speaker 3: guy who is maybe just a little bit difficult to

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Speaker 3: deal with, and he's body breaks down in the most

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Speaker 3: inopportune times.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And I know that's a really crappy way to send

752
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Speaker 3: off a player after a twenty one year career on

753
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Speaker 3: the day that he retires, But that's how I feel

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Speaker 3: about Chris Paul.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the same thing with me. I mean,

756
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Speaker 4: obviously he's been a nemesis of mine, been a Dallas

757
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Speaker 4: Maverick fan for a long time, and just you know,

758
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Speaker 4: obviously even in college, I was a Duke fan, right

759
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: he was awake. So I've always kind of, you know,

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Speaker 4: been quote unquote against him because he's been on the

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Speaker 4: other team. But you can also appreciate his greatness and

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Speaker 4: when he came in the league, and you know, really

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Speaker 4: like I mean, you think about your old school prototypical

764
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Speaker 4: point guards. He would have been right in that mix, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean after John Stockton leads, I mean he comes

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Speaker 4: in and kind of takes that mantle and runs with it.

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Speaker 4: And he's very similar to Stockton in the sense of

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Speaker 4: how he controlled the game, how we Obviously he's one

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Speaker 4: of the top assis guys ever and being able to

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Speaker 4: manipulate defenses, and obviously when you think of a floor general,

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Speaker 4: you put him right in those conversations. But again, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're right, you hit the nail on the head. It's like,

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Speaker 4: with all that being said, you would think that that

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Speaker 4: per sim Wild win one, but then you think about,

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Speaker 4: you know, the past, and John Stockton didn't win one,

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Speaker 4: so you got to put them in the same kind

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Speaker 4: of category. I don't know, when it's all said and done,

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Speaker 4: where he fits in the pantheon of great point guards

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Speaker 4: as far as you know. I guess we value winning

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Speaker 4: in that league a lot more so. I mean, where

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Speaker 4: would you like rank him, Dan? I know we don't

782
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Speaker 4: want to. I want to give him credit. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think he's one of the top five ever, But

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Speaker 4: where do you where do you put him in your

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Speaker 4: in your point guard rankings.

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Speaker 3: I don't have.

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Speaker 6: Well, make one up, Dan, make one up.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask all right, let's ask Monsky Dan. Let's

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Speaker 4: let's ask Monsie and see what.

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Speaker 5: Do you have from ranked top maybe for me, because

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Speaker 5: like it's like I John Stockton was great, right, but

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Speaker 5: it's like I feel like I watched John Stockton through

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Speaker 5: the eyes of my dad, like that was one of

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Speaker 5: his favorite players. So it's like I think John Stockton

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Speaker 5: would have to be also in the top but he's

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Speaker 5: probably in my top five.

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Speaker 6: Chris Paul for me, is probably in my top five.

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Speaker 5: And what's crazy is like he was kind of like

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a dirty player at times, you know,

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Speaker 5: like he was not the cleanest player. He's no Dylan

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Speaker 5: Brooks or no Draymond Green, but he had a little

802
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Speaker 5: bit of that where he ah where he like instigated

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00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 5: situations where he made things worse, and like he had

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Speaker 5: a little bit yeah, let's say edge, but he's a

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Speaker 5: little thirty.

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Speaker 6: But I loved him.

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Speaker 5: I loved him and the few times I ever had

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Speaker 5: interactions with him off the court, he genuinely was a

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Speaker 5: really nice guy. It seemed like on the court it

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Speaker 5: was like a flip, you know, he flipped the switch

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Speaker 5: and it was like, I want to take you down.

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Speaker 5: But there was never that type of attitude that I

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Speaker 5: ever had interacting with.

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Speaker 6: Him off the court.

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Speaker 3: You know, my greatest point guard of all time is

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Speaker 3: Magic Johnson's That's why I would put at the top.

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Speaker 3: I'd probably put Stockton second. And now that I've got

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Speaker 3: I've got names in front of me, like, do I

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Speaker 3: think he's better than Steve Nash?

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Speaker 6: That's who I was going to bring up Steve Nash

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Speaker 6: for me too as a top.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say he's better than Steve Nash. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I would you think so I would.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if one's five and one six

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Speaker 3: and one six and one's five, But like I i'd

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Speaker 3: rather have Isaiah Thomas of course, so like I would

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Speaker 3: put Isaiah Thomas above them. And now we're talking about

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Speaker 3: rings as well. But I mean, for what Isaiah was

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Speaker 3: to the Pistons and who he was, the numbers don't

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Speaker 3: match up to what Paul did in over twenty one years.

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Speaker 3: You're going to have some monster numbers, But I would

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Speaker 3: just put I would put some of those names, and

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Speaker 3: it's more of I say era, like I can't tell

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Speaker 3: you about the seventies and.

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Speaker 4: Sixties start with the eighties exactly.

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Speaker 3: But like like like a magic in Isaiah, I would

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Speaker 3: have above him, and I would have stocked in above him.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, probably somewhere around around five or six.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, And when you saw a naming names, it

840
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Speaker 4: is kind of like hold on, let me, let me

841
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Speaker 4: rethink it.

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Speaker 6: I want to split this hair here it is.

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Speaker 4: I mean you want to go away back to like

844
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Speaker 4: the pistol piece and the John Haplechick's. Obviously we didn't

845
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Speaker 4: see him play, so it's it's hard to hard to say,

846
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Speaker 4: but I would guess our top five or my top

847
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Speaker 4: five as far as seeing it. Yeah, probably he's definitely

848
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Speaker 4: in there for me.

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Speaker 3: I would also say, there's there's guys who played the

850
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: point guard position but aren't point guards, you know what

851
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: I mean. That's like like Kyrie's not a point guard.

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00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 4: Like yeah, he's a combo guard for sure, right yep.

853
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So when we're talking about that, there is

854
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 3: a blend of it, you know, Steph and I mean like, yeah,

855
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 3: you know, at the point at times, but yeah, he's

856
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Speaker 3: not the point guard that we're trying to judge. The

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Speaker 3: Chris Paul, Steve nashes of the world. Right, Nope. So

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Speaker 3: I think that's what makes it tricky.

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Speaker 5: He may be like, right now, is there a true

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Speaker 5: point guard in the NBA right now?

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Speaker 4: Halliburton? Yeah, he runs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, okay, okay, I like that one.

863
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 5: I honestly wouldn't even like I especially because we have been.

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Speaker 6: Watching him this season.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, okay, aside from him, what Draymond? No, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like Draymond's a point center. Like

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Speaker 5: we don't have a point god anymore.

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Speaker 4: No, no, said Jason sam Bronson. What do you think Chaling?

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Speaker 3: I think he's more common too.

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Speaker 5: It's because he's you know, because I was gonna say, like,

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Speaker 5: what's the I'm blanking out on his name?

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Speaker 6: Atlanta Hawks? Not anymore. He's now a wizard Trey, thank you.

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Speaker 6: But he's also not really a facilitator like that.

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Speaker 4: It's hard because they they are facilitators and they get

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Speaker 4: their assists, but they don't know. The game's not like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the game is.

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Speaker 3: The positionlessness of basketball is just has changed it and

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Speaker 3: so maybe maybe even an end of an era, like

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe that's the way to look at it.

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Speaker 12: Try to regain the lead and Christy turns it over

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Speaker 12: James the locomotive to the realm Lebron James a spin

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Speaker 12: and finish. Lakers get the win. The Mavericks drop their

891
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Speaker 12: ninth in a row, a triple double for Lebron James.

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Speaker 12: They pull away against the MAVs one twenty four, so

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Speaker 12: one oh four the futle.

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Speaker 3: Bad job by Iron Eagle, but not calling the MAVs.

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Speaker 3: Kerry Rhodes his MAVs. But are you happy to see

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Speaker 3: the MAVs lose that game?

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Speaker 4: I'm just happy we're not in in the final thn

898
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Speaker 4: We're not getting fined anything for taking at this point,

899
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Speaker 4: Cooper's sitting out. He's gonna be healthy next year. We're

900
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Speaker 4: gonna get a good pick and we'll be back in

901
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Speaker 4: the mix next year. Dan, I'm okay, I'm all right.

902
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, see why the Utah Jazz are doing nothing wrong.

903
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: But after the win last night, Lebron James, well, let's

904
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: just say this, guys, Lebron James was being Lebron James.

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Speaker 13: I'm a goofy ass, forty one year old kid. I

906
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 13: think people should know that by now, right.

907
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Speaker 3: That's just me. I'm I'm just a goofy.

908
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 13: I got to play basketball, like they pay me to

909
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 13: play basketball, Like, why wouldn't I be happy about that?

910
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 13: I got to be with my son and my teammates

911
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 13: and people, all these unbelievable fans. They've watched me throughout

912
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Speaker 13: my career and they give me all the support and love.

913
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Speaker 13: And it's like, like, I enjoyed, I said, works, I

914
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Speaker 13: enjoy I enjoy what I do so half fun. You

915
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 13: see me on the court, see me in the back.

916
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Speaker 3: I just I just love what I do. Just a

917
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: goofy forty one year old kid. That's all Lebron James is.

918
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: That's all he's ever been, Just a goofy kid that

919
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 3: loves playing basketball, with no ulterior motives or reasoning It's

920
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: not like there's an All Star Game coming up in

921
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Speaker 3: Los Angeles where he may want to be feted and

922
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Speaker 3: appreciated and honored and get those great ovations, because you

923
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Speaker 3: know what, he's just he's just basically Carrie, He's a

924
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: kid who's playing basketball at forty one. Funny is just

925
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Speaker 3: a kid.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they're a kid with the ball. I'm sure.

927
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Speaker 4: I'm sure that was a little bit of that, Dan,

928
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Speaker 4: But uh, it's a lot of the other stuff as well,

929
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Speaker 4: which we know, we know his propensity to make comments

930
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Speaker 4: ahead of certain things too. Like you said, you know,

931
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Speaker 4: kind of give himself some grace and and get some

932
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Speaker 4: adoration from the people that are about to be blessed

933
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Speaker 4: with his presence. But yeah, this is this is what

934
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Speaker 4: Lebron does. And obviously I wish this was the narrative,

935
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Speaker 4: but I think there was an opportunity for this to

936
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Speaker 4: be his narrative. Early on in his career, people loved him.

937
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Speaker 4: He was beloved as that guy. The next person. Now,

938
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Speaker 4: what we've witnessed is just somebody that's overstayed there, welcome,

939
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Speaker 4: and along the way has had to push himself amongst

940
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Speaker 4: the greats or to be considered one of the greats

941
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Speaker 4: instead of letting that play out. So everything about him

942
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Speaker 4: we know has an agenda, and the agenda behind this

943
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Speaker 4: is probably what you just said, Dan. I mean, he's

944
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Speaker 4: about to be in la he's in his you know,

945
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Speaker 4: in the in the state where he in the city

946
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Speaker 4: where he plays his basketball these days, and he would

947
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: want some appreciation from all the people that are coming.

948
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Speaker 4: And again, this might be his last one. So I

949
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Speaker 4: agree with that, Dan, Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 9: You know, there's when people read magazines. US Weekly was

951
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 9: a magazine and they had this little feature called They're

952
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 9: just like Us. And that's what I think when I

953
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 9: think about Lebron jas who among us hasn't made a

954
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 9: billion dollars by age forty one, and he's just a kid.

955
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Speaker 4: He's just a kid out there.

956
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Speaker 9: I think that Lebron, among all the things that he's

957
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Speaker 9: going to be known for, I think he has like

958
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 9: and he I think he does his control us. But

959
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Speaker 9: I think one of the things that he will I'll

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Speaker 9: be known for when this the documentary is made about him,

961
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Speaker 9: is he's so disingenuous. Yes, but he's smart enough to

962
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Speaker 9: know the right things to say. He's just he's horrible

963
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 9: at acting natural when he does these things, he's a

964
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Speaker 9: bad actor. Carry You saw Space, dam didn't you? So

965
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Speaker 9: you saw the second Space, Damn didn't you?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, there's.

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Speaker 3: No in Heck, I've seen that and.

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Speaker 6: There's horrible, horrible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was not good.

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Speaker 3: I'd even seen the first one. To be honest, I

971
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Speaker 3: know you.

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Speaker 6: When you said that to me, Dan, that really upset me.

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Speaker 6: I'm coming over. We're watching it with Brody and that's it.

974
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Speaker 4: I'm coming over to we're watching the first Space.

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Speaker 6: Jim is so good. It is so good.

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Speaker 3: He hit on all the he hit on all the

977
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Speaker 3: key points. Forty one year old kid. Yeah, my being

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Speaker 3: able to play with my son. Yeah, they pave me

979
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: to play basketball. Heppiness. Wasn't it like three days ago

980
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: where he was like, we're not a championship team. That's

981
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: a championship team over there. Yes, yeah, that's just that's

982
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: kid talk. That's child's play. This guy's amazing. But hopefully

983
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Speaker 3: he'll get his flowers this weekend. We'll see or maybe

984
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: the wall will blo him at the All Star Game.

985
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: We'll find out. All Star weekend is here. He's carry Roads.

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Speaker 3: That's Monsy Belangios. Jason Stewart's here as his Iowa Sam.

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Speaker 3: We're hanging out at Stu gottson Company Live. Stu Gotts

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Speaker 3: and crew will be back next week