1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our two on this Wednesday. Your phone calls 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: are welcome. We'll get to those wells. Talk to Shohyotani's manager, 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Joe Madden, Ellie Angels skipper Russell Wilson Junior the third. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: Been a while since we spoke to him. Last time, 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: there were fireworks. Russ once out agent gave Adam Schefter 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: a list of four teams if you're willing to trade him. 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: What will happen to Russ? Where's he gonna go? Well, 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: he's still in Seattle. As I predicted. All he wanted 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: to do was have a seat at the table. That's it. 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: He just wanted to let everybody know he wants to 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: try to be involved in some of these decisions. And 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: now do I think Russ is there for the long haul? 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: I do not. I think Seattle probably in the next 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: year or so, we'll move on from Russell Wilson just 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: my thought. Don't have any inside information there, but I 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: don't see him ending his career as Thistle Seahawk. But 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Russ will join us coming up and we'll talk about 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: that interview back on February ninth, right after the Super 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: Bowl and he kind of spilled his guts about how 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: he really felt about what was going on in Seattle. 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns have responded well to losses so far this 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: year's postseason. They don't seem to get too rattled, even 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: though they had a bad game in Game three, got 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: blown out, and the question of the Finals is whether 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Milwaukee's Game three was out of desperation or really there's 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: a true shift in momentum. And one thing's for sure, 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Jannis is healthy. This cannot be understated what he's doing 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: with that injury and players who had that injury coming 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: on this show and saying it's six weeks. It feels 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: like he's one hundred percent. If I'm Phoenix, I hope 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent. I'd hate to find out he's 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: only playing at seventy percent while he's putting up thirty 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: four and thirteen every single night. He's shooting better from 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: the line, or certainly did this last game. But you know, 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: are the Bucks, Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday going to 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: hit their shots if Phoenix tries to shut down Jannis. 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: It's a different NBA Finals. Not much a history going 39 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: on with these players. In fact, it's hard to root 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: against somebody unless you're in Phoenix, unless you're in Milwaukee. Like, 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: there's no bad guy here. May me maybe Chris Paul 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: earlier in his career, but you know he's the state 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: farm guy. We're fine with Chris Paul. And maybe this 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: is the final chapter as a great point guard. You've 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: got two underdogs here. This reminds me of the Cubs 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: in the Indians in twenty sixteen. They were two underdogs. 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: Like if the Indians won, it would have been a 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: great story as well. Now the Cubs were a very 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: good team, but still they hadn't won. When you have 50 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: Butler versus Duke, then you have the underdog against the favorite. 51 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't want Butler versus George Mason. You want to 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: have that on their dog. You want to have somebody 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: you root for or somebody you root against. You don't 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: have that. The series is unpredictable and I don't know 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: what to expect tonight in Milwaukee. I expect to be Phoenix. 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Expect Phoenix to be better, more aggressive. Maybe they shoot 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: more free throws here, but that comes with being more aggressive. 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: So when Monty Williams, the head coach of the Suns 59 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about the free throw disparity, but 60 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: does talk about the free throw disparity, but then doesn't 61 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: want you to bring up the fact that he didn't 62 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: want to talk about the free throw disparity, but then 63 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: he did. Here's the sun Shad coach. After last game, 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: you said you didn't want to complain about the fouls, 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: but then you kind of do the next sentence. I'm 66 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: curious the reason for two like a job or no. No, no, 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm just curious. The reason for bringing that up at 68 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: a press conference is what Well, somebody asked me the 69 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: question like, how can I help the a So I 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: answered it, and then the free throw disparity is what 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: it is. So that's what I did. They had one 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: player with seventeen free throws, we had sixteen. That's not complaining, 73 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: that's stating facts. Well, did you point out any other 74 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: stats where there was a disparity? No, just the one 75 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: that you think that the officials could probably help you with, 76 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: and that is the number of fouls that are called, 77 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: number of free throws that are shot. I get it, 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's being competitive gamesmanship, as we like 79 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: to say, yeap on, do you think that NBA refs 80 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: officials like the group meet before the game and say, look, 81 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: here's what we're looking for tonight. Are hey, last night 82 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: we were way over the top with this. Let's do 83 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: they do that? And should they do that? I am 84 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: going to guess that they do get together. But also 85 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: they're graded after each game, and you're already getting information 86 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: from the NBA. Right, So let's say you get a 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: grade where okay, there is eighteen fouls called on this 88 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: team and thirty five four on the other. You could 89 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: do you think they would get concerned that it appears imbalanced. Well, okay, 90 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: from a thousand feet away, you'd go, boy, that's a 91 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: big disparity. Well, how aggressive was the other team? Where 92 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: were the fouls called? That's what I'm curious about. They 93 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: were called probably close to the hoop because it was 94 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: Jannis who was going to the basket there. Phoenix is 95 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: a jump shooting team, and you know you had the 96 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: Greek freak who was going to make them pay. You 97 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: got to guard me down low. He got DeAndre Eton 98 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: and foul trouble. I just think it was the style 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: of play that Milwaukee had. Will they be able to 100 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: continue that? And does How does Phoenix counteract that? Do 101 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: I think there's the same disparity. Probably not, but that'll 102 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: be because Phoenix will maybe try to force the issue 103 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: of taking it inside themselves. I don't know. I don't 104 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: know what their game plan is going to be, but 105 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: it should be. If I'm Milwaukee, I want Jannis down low. 106 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: I want you to I want DeAndre Aton to try 107 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: to guard him and you double. Then it's up to 108 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: Brook Lopez, Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday to hit jumpers. 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: I do not want the Greek freak out at the 110 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: top of the key. Do not eight seven seven three 111 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: d P show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, 112 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: Twitter handle a DPS show the All Star Game festivities. 113 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: Last night it was the American League winning once again. 114 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,559 Speaker 1: Vlad Guerrero at twenty two years of age, the second 115 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: youngest player ever to Homer in an All Star Game, 116 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: only Johnny Bench, who was twenty one years of age 117 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: back in nineteen sixty nine. John Smoltz got to love him, 118 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: great analyst, and I'll take you back to yesterday when 119 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: he joined us on the program, when I asked him 120 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: a favor. Can you later in the game tonight drop 121 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: in as you know, Joe, as I said earlier today 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: on the Dan Patrick Show, because oh yeah, I'll stay 123 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: like if you get to the sixth inning, maybe like 124 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: I'll make sure my fans stay sixth inning, seventh inning, 125 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: just say, you know, Joe, as I said earlier today 126 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: on the popular Dan Patrick Show. Yeah, there's there's you know, 127 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tie that in with what Maryfield. Yeah, I 128 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: love it, you know, there, you got it. I'm gonna 129 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: whatever he comes. Yeah, he comes in the game and 130 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: he comes up to the plate. Well, here was the 131 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: call last night, Dan Patrick earlier this morning, and he 132 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: asked me, what one guy would you like to see 133 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: under the radar? And it's this guy ever played with Maryfield. 134 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: All he does is kid, there you go, Thank you John. 135 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess the ratings got a really big boost 136 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: then when John did that with Maryfield. And fortunately though, 137 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: that's what everybody was tuning in for. Yeah, so as 138 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: soon as that moment happened, then they tuned out. Okay, yeah, 139 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: they're calling that the Maryfield drop off over at Fox. 140 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, all right, big spy. There's memos all 141 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: right now being what happened when wit Maryfield left the game. 142 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: We gotta get more focused on this guy. Yeah, poll 143 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: question McLevin. Second most popular sport in America behind football, 144 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: college and pro basketball. Oh, I didn't know the drum 145 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: was coming. Okay, you can now you can still give 146 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: the information. Do it again, poll? Okay, there were good 147 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: and the second most popular sport according to this educated 148 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: audience is let me start with third baseball at thirty baseballs, 149 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm confused, is thirty six percent. Basketball beats it at 150 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: thirty seven percent. So basically it's a two way down. 151 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: All right, thank you? Now what's fourth? By the way, 152 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: then comes hockey, like I said, eighteen percent, said hockey 153 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: because our hockey fans are loyal. Then came soccer, and 154 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: then came Mma, Phil and Indiana's back, Hi Phil, Dan, 155 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: always a great pleasure. I did hear the sixth inning 156 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: had a nineteen share SA congratulations on that, Hey Dan, 157 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: so real quick. I wanted to give your thoughts. But 158 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: I think baseball's challenge and I thought last night was great, 159 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: some of the on field interviews during the game, and 160 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: I think some of the things they're trying is great. 161 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: I think baseball Allen stan and I'd love to get 162 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: your thoughts is that it's really relevant like one month 163 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: a year like July, and then football takes over. Before 164 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: that he got basketball, hockey again, football, and so I 165 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts. I think their challenge is 166 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: always going to be now there and that they've got 167 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: about one month to six weeks to really make a difference. Yeah, 168 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a fair point, and thank you Phil 169 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: for the phone call. Baseball never truly has a season 170 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: to itself. The NFL does, The NBA has a portion 171 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: of its season to itself. But when it comes postseason, 172 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Baseball has the All Star Break and then the postseason 173 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: and the World Series. Football has every weekend, whether it's 174 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: college and the NFL every weekend, and even the offseason 175 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: with the NFL. Even now, if you said what is 176 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: the most popular topic of the number one topic, somehow 177 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: football might be in there. Whether it's Aaron Rodgers situation, 178 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger has an new diet, like these are these 179 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: are stories here? Uh did Patrick Mahomes shade Justin Herbert 180 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: at the golf tournament? Like these These are actual? This 181 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: is what's being sold behind the scenes at you know, 182 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: TV networks. I think that Mahomes was throwing shade at 183 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. We should talk about this. Let's get an 184 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: analyst on to talk about this. Okay, that's fine. Yeah, 185 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: I'm a club. I kind of distribute with that called 186 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: the best month of baseball is the month after the 187 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: hot stove, like when your team might get some great 188 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: It wouldn't free agencies say with NFL, like the draft 189 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: is a lot of fun, all thirty two teams all 190 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden get back in it. There's something about 191 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: what's next. No, but the NFL they sort of take 192 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: a month off. It feels like the NFL goes, all right, 193 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: we got to give these other sports an opportunity, and 194 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: here's the month of June. And then that's it because 195 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: you do have the Draft, you have free agency, you 196 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: have the Combine, then you have training camp, and then 197 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: you have the season, then you have the postseason, then 198 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: you have the Super Bowl. There's a scandal or two 199 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: thrown in there. I mean, the NFL is the greatest 200 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: reality show that we have on TV. You got Hard Knocks, 201 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys on Hard Knocks. I mean, this is that 202 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: it just sort of engulfed the sports world. It it's 203 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: like Pac man. It just kept eating and eating and 204 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: eating and eating and then throwing Miss pac Man too. 205 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: And that's what you have with the NFL. And it's 206 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: really hard for these sports to kind of separate themselves 207 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: and say, hey, notice us. Usually what happens is something 208 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: happens and it's bad, and then we notice some of 209 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: these other sports. Horse racing, something bad happened with a 210 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame trainer. Right, golf, we seem to be 211 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: more focused on Bryson de Shambo and Brooks Kepka. They 212 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: don't like each other. Yes, time hockeys, some vicious hit 213 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: or a fight that broke out is usually comes up 214 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: more than a great game that was boying. Yeah, yeah, 215 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: you're right, yeah'm club. Did you say Spider Tac too. 216 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, a whole lot of coverage. Oh they're cheating. 217 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: Oh look at that foreign substance on the piece. Baseball 218 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: still is cheating problem. Yeah, I'm but you know what 219 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: help the NFL. The flake Eate and Spygate really became 220 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: the you know, they became the offseason monsters. The flake 221 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: Aate gave us two years of bizarre content. It's a scandal. 222 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: Helps NFL too. Oh everything any storyline with the NFL. 223 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: They embrace it. You know that. I always tell the 224 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: Danans when they go, hey, you know, any publicity, even 225 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: when you're getting ripped, I go, no, if you're the 226 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: person getting ripped, it's not great publicity. Did Stephen A. 227 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: Smith have a good week this week? I don't think so. 228 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: If you would have said, hey, Steve Um, you want 229 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: to take back those comments? You want to be irrelevant 230 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: this week? Yeah? Probably so when you're apologizing and continue 231 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: to apologize and then people in your own network are 232 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: criticizing you to your face, man's not a good day. 233 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: Not all publicities good publicity unless you're the NFL, because 234 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: they embrace it. They're like, yeah, come on in. Yeah, 235 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: Paul Skip wishes he had Stephen asweek. I get some 236 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: of that. By the way, Peyton Manning what a lame 237 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: first pitch? I didn't see it was it? It was lame. Okay. 238 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: So he goes out there and Peyton makes the mistake 239 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: that a lot of people make. You don't warm up 240 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: on a mound for the first pitch, but you go 241 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: to the mound because hey, you gotta go to the mound. 242 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: You got to tow the rubber. I mean, you're a 243 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: you're a quarterback, so you go to the mound and 244 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: when you throw, because of the angle of the mound, 245 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: you will throw down. And he bounced one to home plate. 246 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: Now he don't have a strong arm anyway, but he 247 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: did bounce it there to the catcher. Yes, Broncho Paula, 248 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: I think it might because the cactor changed the signal 249 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: the next one. He's used to being the one that 250 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: changes it at the last minute, so he got a 251 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: little confused, and that's why the ball came out that way. 252 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: Did you hear something last night when he was on 253 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: the mountain? I thought I heard faintly Omaha kill kill. Yes, 254 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: I thought another former Broncos quarterback specialized in bouncing the 255 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: ball before it got Oh but whoa, who wow, that's 256 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: not necessary. Okay, Hey, how about that pass against Steelers 257 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: in the postseason That one has oh oh oh oh okay, 258 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: all right, and I think we need to go to 259 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: a break right now. And Joe Madden showe of Tany's manager, 260 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: will join is coming up next year on The Dan 261 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Show. Discover the Discover credit card. You're gonna discover 262 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: all the cash bet. No, we're good, We're not say 263 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: anything about Tebow. Discover matches all the cash back you 264 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: earn on your credit card at the end of your 265 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: first year, automatically, no limit on how much you can earn. 266 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: How amazing is that? 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Be sure to catch us live every 273 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 274 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 275 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 276 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. We'll get to more phone calls coming 277 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: up once again, Russell Wilson. The return of Russell Wilson. 278 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: Last time we spoke February ninth, and all hell broke loose, 279 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: So Russell will be back with us in an hour 280 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: from now. Where other vans stop short, Mercedes Benz vans 281 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: go far beyond from their customization options cutting edge tech 282 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: to their five stars sales service, financial support crew go 283 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: that extra mile, taking the all import first step into 284 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: an authorized dealership today. It wasn't that long ago that 285 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: our next guest was known as a World Series winning manager. 286 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: He's got a new title. You show a Utani's manager 287 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: and he's Joe Madden, who joints us on the show. 288 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: How's that feels that an official title? Joe, I'll take it. 289 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: It's been rather, it's been a lot of fun. He's 290 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: you saw him doing the All Star weekend or a 291 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: week two days, He's all of that. He's just a 292 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: wonderful young man. He's very humble. He came across perfectly 293 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: and probably the best talent possibly that's ever played the game. 294 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: Who would you compare him too? And I've been asked that, 295 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: and everybody goes all over the map, and you know, 296 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: obviously the Babe Ruth comparisons. We never knew it. The 297 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: Babe actually looked or played like we just see the 298 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: those little legs running around the bases a lot. But 299 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: I would say it's it's more like a Bo Jackson 300 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: for me just to be able to dominate bou dominate 301 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: at once both sports, but showing dominating both sides of 302 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: the ball, in our game is so different, and I 303 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: don't even it's going to happen again. I don't know 304 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: to this level, but some kids are going to come 305 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: along to try to do and probably accomplish it. Even 306 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: though lorenzit once it's an addie. That kid's pretty good. 307 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: I've ever seen him. He's out of cow State Fullerton. 308 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: He's pretty He's pretty good hitter also, But anyway, it's 309 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be a while. But I'd say both 310 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: regarding the dominance on both sides of the ball and 311 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: what a great athlete that he actually is. When we 312 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: were growing up, chances are your best player, your best 313 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: hitter was the pitcher, right But at what point did 314 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: we go, Okay, you can't do both. You can't be 315 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: a pitcher and a hitter. I think, of course, you 316 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: did it in literally I did it in teena's league ball, 317 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: and myself I did it an American Legion ball. When 318 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: you get to college, actually started out as a pitcher, 319 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: and I stopped pitching because I couldn't hit anymore, so 320 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: I became a catcher. But I think by the time 321 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: you get to college, they make you make that choice. 322 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: I think up to that point, a lot of guys 323 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: are able to do both. You don't play as long 324 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: as the season. The competition is different, the stresses on 325 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: what you do in your body is different, training, all 326 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: these different. The specialization that's necessary to dominate as a 327 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: pitcher whereas a hitter is different. So I think you 328 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: could get away with it, probably through college at some point, 329 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: but by the time you get the professional ball, it 330 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: really really causes you to focus someone or aquart or 331 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: the other, except if you have this kind of talent 332 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: show he does. But did you discuss with him about 333 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: competing in the home run derby that guys will talk 334 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: about you kind of screw up your swing and just 335 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: the amount of energy that it takes to be in. Then, yeah, 336 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: I did. And here's the thing, you know, we get 337 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: we put all these parameters on everybody anymore. Everybody tries 338 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: to put it in somebody's head, which you can and 339 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: cannot do. And I don't do that. I don't believe 340 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: in that. I don't even know who came up with 341 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: that in the first place. It's an easy narrative, it's 342 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: easy to defend in a sense, and it's possible. I'm 343 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: not saying it's not possible. But and I'm not going 344 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: to deny the fact that I like the I wanted 345 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: him to win, but I wasn't upset that he didn't 346 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: win and was out up to the first round. But 347 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: all this stuff, I think we charge these people in 348 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: charge these days. We attempt to get in the way 349 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: of greatness of a lot of athletes by putting restrictor 350 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: plates on all of them. I don't want it to 351 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: do that. This guy is a great athlete. He's signed 352 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: up to do this. He signed up to do both, 353 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: so why would we restrict him from doing both? And 354 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: on top of that, he wants to. I mean, there's 355 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: times you have to push players to do certain things, 356 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: are asked them to do certain things. Show he's wanted 357 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: to do this from the beginning. So never get in 358 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: the way of a player's greatness, and stop talking about 359 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: getting hurt All the time. We put this in people's 360 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: heads and all of a sudden it becomes a self 361 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: fulfilled prophecy. I just wonder about being too cautious with 362 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: today's athlete, because Joe we grew up. When you know, 363 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: guys completed games. Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax on Marichelle and 364 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: go down the list. You know, that was the badge 365 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: of courage. I'm gonna I want to complete a game. 366 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, I look back on job of Chamberlain. I 367 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: think the Yankees over pampered him, and I don't think 368 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: he ever could ever get out of a tough situation 369 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: because whenever he got into one, they take him out. 370 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: So how do you have that? Let me let you 371 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: walk and fall on your own all the above. You're right. 372 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: A part of it has to do with money and 373 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: agents and all these different you know, you want to 374 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: try to extend your shelf life to make more money 375 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: over a period of time. I think that's part of 376 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: the narrative. But then again, if that were the case, 377 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: why is everybody still getting hurt? All these new different 378 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: training methods in diet which listen, I'm all into all 379 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: of that stuff. We could go overboard with everything. Diminishing 380 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: return sits in with almost everything we do in our life. 381 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: At a certain point, and you go overboard, you become 382 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: an extremist in all these different areas that I'm not 383 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: into it. I do love balance. I think balance is necessary. 384 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: You should have a McDonald's big back at some point, 385 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: and of course you can eat properly for the next 386 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: week or ten days. Balance this whole thing out. Don't 387 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: be an extremist, and I think that's what we've become 388 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: with everything that we're doing. We're extreme, and I think 389 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: there is a middle road. I believe in the gray 390 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: area of everything, and we experienced both sides. I think 391 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: you turn out to be a better human being. Actually, 392 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm into liberal arts. I'm into the liberal arts method 393 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: of teaching baseball, and I think we become polarized with 394 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: all of this, and I don't think it's healthy. So 395 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think if given the opportunity, 396 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: a lot of these players we're talking about pitchers would 397 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: be able to pitch more deeply in the games. And 398 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: it needs to start in the minor leagues. And just 399 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: to cut it off here, but when I was managing 400 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: an eighty two in Salem, Oregon, Kirk mccosco is one 401 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: of my pitchers, and he pitched a nine inning complete 402 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: game shutout, giving up two it's snow walks, twelve spreadouts 403 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: against the mere Days. Wow, that would never even occur today. 404 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: A minor league manager would lose his job if he 405 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: even attempted to permit a pitcher to do something like that. 406 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: He's Joe Madden, the Angels manager, three time Baseball Manager 407 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: of the Year, two time World Series champ. Given Stephen A. 408 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: Smith's comments on Shohei Otani and the language barrier. How 409 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: much pressure does show Hay feel to be able to 410 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: speak English. I don't think he feels pressure. I think 411 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: he's learning. You know. It's like if you're in a situation. 412 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: I speak some Spanish right and on occasion the Spanish 413 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: reporters will ask me to do something in Spanish. It's 414 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: a very unnerving situation, and you try, and you concentrate 415 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: and focus. You don't want to make a fool out 416 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: of yourself. He becomes embarrassing. So when you're but if 417 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: you're fluent in that language, obviously it's much easier to do. 418 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: My point is, as Showhey learns more which he is, 419 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: and believe he communicates with us. He says a lot 420 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: of different things in English. But if it put a 421 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: microphone in front of somebody until you become pretty comfortable 422 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: with that, you don't even want to go there because 423 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: you don't want to screw up. You don't want to 424 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: be interpreted in the wrong way. That's all that is 425 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: because Showhy does a great job with this epay as interpreter, 426 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: who we also love, is outstanding. So give him time. 427 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: It's like anything else, give him time. Where it is 428 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: in a different culture, in a different environment. You go 429 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: to Japan and learn the language that quickly and speak 430 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: affluently during an interview not an easy thing to do. 431 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that. So give him time. He's 432 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: a very bright young man, he's engaging, he wants to learn, 433 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: and he will. I probably sure he will, but it's 434 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: just a it's a process, man, like everything else. What 435 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: was that meeting phone call like when you had to 436 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: tell Albert Pooholes that you were letting him go? I didn't. 437 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: I wasn't a part of that. Actually I spoke at 438 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: Albert that night before that game. He was upset that 439 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 1: he wasn't in that lineup, and I couldn't tell him 440 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: everything that was going on that I knew it was 441 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: going on. Later on that night. That was John Carpino 442 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: and Perry and Asie in our GM. They're they're the 443 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: guys that spoke him about it. And so since then 444 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: I really haven't spoken Albert. I know he was upset leaving, 445 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: and I understand that completely and I don't blame him. However, 446 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: it's worked out wonderfully for him and wonderfully for us. 447 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: It was the right thing to do for everybody involved, 448 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: and sometimes it takes a little time for people to 449 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: realize or understand that. I thought it was great through 450 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: that he was able to stay in Los Angeles, didn't 451 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: have to pick up and leave, family, was not uprooted, 452 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: all those kind of things that you would that makes 453 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: it difficult. So it's a win win absolutely for everybody involved. 454 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: And we're going to see him again. He's going to 455 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: play well against us. I absolutely believe that, and I 456 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: think it's great. I think it's great for baseball. So 457 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: win win. The rule changes. The commissioner said, we're going 458 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: to take away the seven inning double headers and not 459 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: going to put a runner on second base next season. 460 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think of those decisions? Well, 461 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: first of all, the runner at second base has been 462 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: a thorn the whole time. I'm not to expedite or 463 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: a game just for the sake of expedition. I don't 464 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: understand that. I don't get it, and this is one 465 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: of those things that our game is based in their 466 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: heat and tradition. Why do you want to subtract Everybody 467 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: wants to take tradition out of everything anymore, either, can't 468 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: you just don't want to microwave. Everybody wants to microwave everything. 469 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: Let the game be played. Yeah, there's going to be 470 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: some really uncomfortable at stake when you have to stay 471 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: or seven ten innings and lose possibly horrible method, horrible moment. 472 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: But that's how this thing is done. So let's let's 473 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: do that again. And that's part of what's happening. The 474 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: front offices are really freaked out about this stuff because 475 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: then you have to use pitchers more than you would 476 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: like to, or you have to shuttle guys between Triple 477 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: Way back to the big leagues to boast of yourself 478 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: for the next day. Those are the problems. That's what 479 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: the real issue is here. It's not about the game itself. 480 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: And as a kid, I loved extra innings. If the 481 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: game was beging to be played a little bit more 482 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: or longer, I would love that. I understand our school 483 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: and I understand ours work, I get all that stuff, 484 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: but that's what the game is. So a I'd love 485 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: to see that go away. The seven inning double header 486 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: is interesting. I'm good with going back to nine, but 487 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: I really would hope that they don't go day night. 488 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: That's the part that really is the kicker. I understand, 489 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: I understand the game. I understand it's probably not going 490 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: to go away, But if you want to make it 491 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: palatable to all of us, play tune in any games 492 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: that haven't concurrent game over a half hour later game two, 493 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: that would be the best way it used to be 494 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: when we were right, yeah, growing out, Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, 495 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: that's better for everybody. Um, you know, when it when 496 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: it comes to what the game is now and the 497 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: strategy now, can you see somebody being counterintuitive? Uh, you know, 498 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: like Whitey Herzog Saint Louis Cardinal team. Could you could 499 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: you build a team on speed defense, putting the ball 500 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: in play and still be and having a good pitching staff. 501 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: Is somebody going to come along and go, we can't 502 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: compete with big markets and getting sluggers. We're going to 503 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: do this. I think sluggers are going to be part 504 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: of it. I still do. I don't think that's going 505 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: to go away. What Whitey did there, I mean that 506 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: was I'm a big whitey guy. Why doe he work 507 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: for the Angels for a bid? And that's where I 508 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: got to know him. I thought that was I thought 509 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: he was brilliant. Um, I'd like I've always said, I'd 510 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: like to have at all. Why can't you have a 511 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: couple of sluggers. You know, George Hendrick was on that team, 512 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: My buddy, he was on those particular teams. Jackie Clark 513 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: stepped in there. They handsome pop, but they're able to 514 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: really listen when you or you're preparing a game and 515 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: the other dugout. You know that other team could fly 516 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: and they're going to put pressure on you on defense 517 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: all the time. That's an unsettling feeling. That's worse to 518 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: me in a dug out than a team that has 519 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: two or three guys that may take you deep. I 520 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: think you could mitigate that a lot more easily than 521 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: the team that's constantly putting pressure on you that bothers 522 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: everybody on the field. I love that style, and I 523 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: would like for the Angels to be that style. My 524 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: theme for this year play It's like play it like 525 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: it's nineteen eighty five. I've got this cool little shirt 526 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: made up about it and the point would be to 527 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: play the game more completely as opposed to again walk, strikeout, homer, etc. 528 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: So I think it could all be done, I really do, 529 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: And I think it comes down to drafting. We just 530 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: went through the draft. I know we took pictures, which 531 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: is absolutely necessary. But I've I've even talked with you. 532 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: I've seen in a couple years ago and they went 533 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: to forty rounds and I asked him, why wouldn't you 534 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: take the rounds thirty to forty just speed guys, just 535 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: guys that could absolutely fly, and see if you could 536 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: build them from there. And even if you hit on 537 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: one a year, my goodness, after four years, you've got 538 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: four guys that could fly, and it's kind of tent 539 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: them out to what the Kansas City Royals Baseball Academy 540 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: used to be like in seventies, which I still think 541 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: was a brilliant idea, and that would be something cool 542 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: to come on back too. But you've got you have 543 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: to draft and build and nurture this kind of pattern 544 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: if that's what you want to see, and I'd love 545 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: to see that, But you know what that pressure was 546 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: like when when Ricky Henderson would get on first base, 547 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: Willie McGee. I mean it just it changed the atmosphere 548 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: of a game. It felt like, and I know, you 549 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: can have a bomb and somebody can hit at four 550 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty feet. There was something unnerving about somebody 551 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: on first base that was that was that slow water 552 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: torture and it gets into the picture and then the 553 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: catcher and then the manager, everybody. I don't know, I 554 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: missed that element there, and I don't know if that 555 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: comes back that you know, the stolen base, No, you're right, 556 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I'll tell you where it went away. 557 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: It went away because of analytics. That's why it went away. 558 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: And that's that's another part of the game we could 559 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: talk about for another hour where I am an advocate, 560 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you analytics has really kind of squashed 561 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: the stolen base because I would just be quite frank 562 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: with you when when a guy would get thrown out 563 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: on the basis on a steel attempt. I promise you 564 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: postgame somebody from the front office would come down to 565 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: talk to the manager about what happened there. You know, 566 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: we don't want to make outs on the basis, and 567 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: then the manager has to go talk to the coach, 568 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: who then has to go talk to the player. I mean, 569 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: and this is so that by the time that all 570 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: gets done, these guys lose their aggressiveness, their certainness, and 571 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: you have to be all of that in order to 572 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: be a great base stealer. So there's a lot of 573 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: stuff that's that's gone away based on a trickle down 574 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: from analytics from the front office down to the field. 575 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: Give me your favorite minor league managing lifestyle story. Well, 576 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I loved. I love the road. 577 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: I love to ride on a bus weirdly, and I 578 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: drive one. Now, ja us right here with me, right now, 579 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: we have a forty five foot Winnebago grant to our 580 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: Grand Tour RV. I love the road. You're in the Winnebago, now, No, 581 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: that's parked somewhere here. We're in actually an hotel room. Okay, 582 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: we're here. We're in here since I got my kids 583 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: and my grandkids are here. But I you know, as 584 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: a man of you sit in the first seat, right 585 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: first seat up in the front of the bus, right 586 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: on the right side. And as you asked that question, 587 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: I could see myself in the Texas League. The Texas 588 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: League goes in middle of Texas in your division, you'd 589 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: have to go to El Paso like six and a 590 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: half seven hours, or Beaumont eleven hours, or San Antonio 591 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: I think was eight or sometimes Jackson, Mississippi, or Little Rock, 592 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: Arkansas that's ten plus. But I'd sit in that front 593 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: seat and at that time, you had the little cassette 594 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: player with the fuzzy headphones. You put on your head, 595 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: and you bring a pill in a blank you wrap 596 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: yourself up, and I'd bring a book. I was there, 597 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: was a voracious reader, and I loved it. You turn 598 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: the ACA way down and your freeze in that front 599 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: seat and to sleep, and you wake up and you 600 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: go to some kind of truck stop in the middle 601 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: of the night and grab some food and get back 602 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: on and I promise you I'll leave. I left, Yankee, 603 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: stated him. A couple weeks ago, we went a pretty 604 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: tough game, like one or two o'clock into when I 605 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: walking out to the bus and I look up and 606 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: I said, thank you. I still have that opportunity to 607 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: relive those moments that I had as a young manager 608 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: coming up, which if you want to romanticize, which I 609 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: tend to do, that's it. And that's the part about 610 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: the minor leagues that I really did enjoy. Weirdly, I 611 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: was on in some leagues that had tremendously long bus rides. 612 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: But you didn't have a Durham moment, did you? I didn't. 613 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: I did him before? Yeah, when I was in Boulder, Colorado. 614 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: Would we did that before he did that? Would you 615 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: do in me? Stan Jacobowski and Rod Boxburger who's the 616 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: dad of Brad Boxburger, were in charge of the Colorado 617 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: University baseball field where the Boulder Collegians played, and Baldi 618 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: Muschetti was the owner of that team, and Baldi was 619 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: the guy that got me my break and way we 620 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: were charge of the field. So I said, Stanley, he's 621 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: not giving me any days off. I don't want to 622 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: play him to catch her and we're playing like I'm 623 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: catching like back to back to back doubleheaters. So I 624 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: had enough and I said, we're gonna flood the field. 625 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: We did. We went out that day and I had 626 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: the night before. You put those things on the sprinklers. 627 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: We have to crank it a little bit and then 628 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: THEO and we left it on all night and we 629 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: get there the next day and Baldy shows up here. 630 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: What's happened here? Damn Baldy, I don't know. The sprinklers 631 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: got stuck. Well, we got a game tonight, I said, 632 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: I don't think we could get that. Baldy brings in 633 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: a helicopter, you know, for foot to get all the 634 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: water off the field, and then me and Stas, Shoe 635 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: and Boxy had to go out there and rake the infield, 636 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: go buy some gaps and burn it so the infield's 637 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: ready to by the end of that. I have to 638 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: catch that night anyway, So we went through the whole process, 639 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: and I think that's that was nineteen seventy five, so 640 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: that was pretty bull during Man, Susan Sarandon wasn't waiting 641 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: for you, was she? No? No, no, no, she was not. 642 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: Jaw as they said, Joe, great to catch up with you, 643 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Good luck second half of this season. 644 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to be with you. Man, Thank you. 645 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: That's Joe Madden, Angels manager, Shoe Hey Otani's manager, but 646 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: also a three time Baseball Manager of the Year and 647 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: two time World Series champ. Well take a break. A 648 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: phone call is coming up next year on The Dan 649 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Show. Thanks for listening. To The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 650 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 651 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 652 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 653 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey, 654 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm John Middlecopp and I host the Three and Out Podcast. 655 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: Do you like football? Do you like the NFL? Do 656 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: you like the NFL draft? Quarterbacks? Coaches? Well, I talk 657 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: about it all on the show. I used to work 658 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: for Andy Reid as a scout. Now I give you 659 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: my unfiltered and raw opinions on everything that goes on 660 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. And you know we're talking college football because 661 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: of how important the draft is year round. Listen to 662 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: the Three and Out Podcast with me, John Middlecop on 663 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get 664 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Was it mcloven who did it? Or PAULI? Yeah? 665 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: I think my phrase? Yeah? Okay? Onion bagel energy for Todd? Yes, 666 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: we If you're a listener follower of the show, you 667 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: know Todd went into a rage. The maddest I've ever 668 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: seen Todd was when he was trying to get an 669 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: onion bagel and they were out of onion bagels. When 670 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: you have a craving for something and you have like 671 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: an hour drive home and you're finally in your neighborhood 672 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: and you're thinking about you're gonna get that, and you're 673 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna go home and you're gonna kick back and relax 674 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: and have some tea, and you verbally abused a woman. 675 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to. I don't even know if it 676 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: was a woman. It was probably like a teenage girl though, 677 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: just just her first day on the job. Even worse. Yeah, 678 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: you're you're abused. You're verbally abusing a teenage girl, probably 679 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: working to make money to go to college. And then 680 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: they didn't have an onion bag I don't even think 681 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: that was like a possibility. That's like I'll get to 682 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: the pizza place. Well, I no pizza today. You want ices? 683 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: It's like what? Okay? So Todd was so upset with 684 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: the All Star uniforms last night and it bordered on 685 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: on onion bagel energy. I was in a bad way 686 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: last night. So the floor is yours Todd to talk 687 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: about the All Star Game uniform I found them very 688 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: generic and I liked, you know, we always tease, which 689 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: is true I'm stuck in the seventies and eighties. I 690 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: love when they're wearing their own original team uniforms. You 691 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: get all the colors and all the logos, and with 692 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: the National League in American League, and this was just 693 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: playing with a couple of like abbreviated letters down the bottom. 694 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: It was white to gray, whatever it was. It just 695 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: it seemed like almost rushed, like at the last minute. 696 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't know who came up with that idea, but 697 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: if everybody wore their their team uniform, you would have 698 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: been fine with that, because that's what happened in the 699 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: seventies and the eighties. Yes, and I obviously I recognized 700 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: a lot more players back then. But looking at pictures 701 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: from the seventies and eighties and seeing all these bright 702 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: colors of the Astros and Phillies, reds, et cetera, Pirates 703 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: and seeing what they did last night was very disappointed me. 704 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: There's anything better now than it was back in the snow? Really, 705 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think anything. Yeah, you know, 706 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: those women who were in those posters on your wall, 707 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: they don't look that way now, Yeah they don't. I 708 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: don't thank you. He should get posters of all the 709 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: women the seventies, but posters now. James and Virginia joins us. James, 710 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey, James? Oh, thanks for 711 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: taking monk called good morning. Good morning in a long time. Man. 712 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: I know you've missed me because I've missed you. Man, 713 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking about y'all. Man, I'm always listening to guys. 714 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: Man to me, man, I'm all, I'm all about uniforms today, Guys, 715 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit them hard, to hit them fast. Man. 716 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: We are Washington for me. I'm gonna start with the 717 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: NBA finals. Man, I think the Bucks are gonna tie 718 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: it up tonight. But it's the sun. The Valley Black 719 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: uniforms the best uniforms in the NBA. Man, to me, 720 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: I love them many and they just win in them, 721 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: so why they don't try to wear them all the time? Man, 722 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: But I do think the Bucks tied up tonight. I 723 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: like to see Chris Paul get that that ring, man. 724 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: But it'll be exciting as long as I can see 725 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: those Valley uniforms and Todd Man, Todd just hit it 726 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: off the off the home run, man. Because the different 727 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: uniforms in the All Star Games, is it makes them exciting. 728 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: Man to blame. Of all the colors, of all the teams, 729 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: you can recognize who you are, you know what I mean, 730 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: who you're playing. Ab agree, James, Thank you. I got 731 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: a lot of support for Todd. I agree, Thank you, 732 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: James onion bagel energy by Todd, Paul and Iowa. Hi, Paul, 733 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey guys, you know Todd 734 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: should be an MLB official, since I mean, he says 735 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: everything should be how it was in the seventies. But 736 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: I like what Joe Madden said that baseball is a 737 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: sport of tradition, and I think right now it's at 738 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: a crossroads between tradition and stubbornness, because we all agree 739 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: that the NBA's worst days is when they were tape 740 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: delaying big events. And we just went through baseball's standalone, 741 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: biggest time where it can shine, and they tape delay 742 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: the celebrity game and they put the draft in the 743 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: middle of the NBA Finals game. Baseball is not listening 744 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: to anybody who's giving advice on how to grow the game. 745 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: They're head in the sand. Boomer on chance is the 746 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: only people they care about, all right, Well, thank you, Paul. Yeah, 747 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: they try to cram everything in. But you know, the 748 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: Angels drafted twenty pitchers. They didn't draft a position player 749 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: other than pictures. That's it. Now, if you look in 750 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: the philosophy behind that you're trying to get, you're trying 751 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: to get pitching. Let's say you got two All Stars 752 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: out of that. So let's say you hit on ten 753 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: percent and you got two All star caliber arms out 754 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: of that over the next couple of years. Okay, you 755 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: got hitters. So if you could come up with a 756 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: couple of pitchers, then sure, why not? And I like 757 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: what Joe Madden said, Hey, why don't we at the 758 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: latter part of the draft just draft speed guy. At 759 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: some point, speed is going to play a role in 760 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: Major League baseball. I just feel that maybe it's part 761 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: of me hoping that it's still there. There is nothing. 762 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: It sounds crazy to say this, especially to a younger audience. 763 00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: When Ricky Henderson got on first base, there was a 764 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: chess game. I mean just because he disrupted everything, he 765 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: changed everything you'd throw over. Then he gets to second, Well, 766 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: he's going to score on a base hit, so you're 767 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: trying to keep him close, and then you may throw 768 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: a fastball instead of a break like he could steal third, 769 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: get to third, you worry about a wild pitch. Ricky 770 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: could get on first and nobody would get a hit 771 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: and he would still score. It was there was something 772 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: about that, and it was mentally fatiguing for the opposition. 773 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: It would drive me crazy, you know when I would 774 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: watch and the Cardinals would get guys on and you go, 775 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 1: oh God, They're just gonna run and run and run 776 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: and run. And I love that strategy there. Not I 777 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: love the home run, but if you sprinkle in everything 778 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: else there and you get movement, you know, I go 779 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: back to what the Angels did when Mike Sosha managed 780 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: them to a World Series title. They would hit and run, 781 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: they would take the extra base. They were great on 782 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: relay through like small things, but they won because of that. Now, 783 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: Joe Mann tryed, it's about the analytics, Hey, the analytics 784 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: tell us, don't do that. Somebody who's gonna be have 785 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: a counter attack here? Ed and Oregon joins, wait a minute, Ed, 786 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: and or Marvin says Ed and Oregon cursed on the air. 787 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: He was on hold. Ed, is that you? This is 788 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: Eric and Oregon? And yes, I absolutely did Okay, down 789 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: the air, Okay, going back, I reviewed the tapes. Yeah, 790 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: that was okay, that was a big misfire. Eric and Oregon. Okay, 791 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: what were you calling in because you were talking to 792 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 1: your co workers and you dropped an F bomb? There, 793 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 1: I did, I did. I didn't realize what had happened 794 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: until the until iHeartRadio posted the podcast and I went 795 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: back and listened and just held a cringed face for 796 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: the next three hours. Okay, So how can I help you? 797 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: Eric in Oregon? So, um six one hard one seventy five. 798 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: Um so uh, I am calling because my wife is 799 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: giving birth to our second child a week from tomorrow 800 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: and instead of a push gift, we I need a 801 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: We're having a planned C section because of some complications. 802 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: So um one, I was kind of looking for some 803 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: ideas on a on a gift and two what should 804 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: we call that? Like, what do you call a cesarean 805 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: gift instead of a push gift? Um? Wow? Um coin 806 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: the term for us? I don't know here, Just anybody 807 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm not well versed in the c section. 808 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: Anybody want to touch this c section? Present? Yeah, but 809 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't what a c section section? Row seat shirts. 810 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: C section okay section row cut? Oh man, uh, well, 811 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: good luck with that, Eric, and U my best to 812 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: your wife. But I never went down that road with 813 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: a C section. But I don't know if you could 814 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: come up with, like what's the appropriate gift? No Todd 815 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 1: no no no, no no no, I think I think 816 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no. Your mind 817 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: is working, and I don't like how it's gonna work. 818 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: There would it's just better. It's just better that we 819 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: just ease out of this last this second hour and easier, 820 00:42:53,120 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: and you got Russell Wilson is going to join us. Yeah, 821 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: so we'll talk to Russ. Does Russ say anything that's 822 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: headline worthy? Go around the room? No, McLevin, no, Setan Paul. 823 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. I think the old Russ shows up. 824 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: One more item. We close out our two. 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