Speaker 1: But it changes weekly. We're used to having guys being
Speaker 1: number one in the world. I mean we had Gregg
Speaker 1: for ten years and then we had Tiger for twenty
Speaker 1: years and changes week to week. I mean, Scottie clearly
Speaker 1: was the best goal from the world the first four
Speaker 1: months of the year, but not even close. You know,
Speaker 1: Dustin said his turn. I mean John's had his turn,
Speaker 1: like it's it's JT's clearly. When I see JT play
Speaker 1: up close, I'm like, it's amazing to me that anyone
Speaker 1: can beat that guy. So I just think it's, um,
Speaker 1: it's a bit more fluid than it's ever been. We've
Speaker 1: never had this many people capable of meting number one.
Speaker 1: Put another log on the fire nobody hears give it time. Hello,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another Fire Drill podcast. Is Alan Shipnuk
Speaker 1: coming from the country Club in Brookline, Massachusetts. On my
Speaker 1: left is Michael Bamberger. On my right Ryan France beamed
Speaker 1: in from Melbourne, Australia. Jeff Ogilvie. Guys is a pretty
Speaker 1: eclectic leaderboard. There's some there's some world class players, there's
Speaker 1: a nice mix of underdogs. Kind a chance to watch
Speaker 1: the country club play out now for two rounds. Let's
Speaker 1: get just opening thoughts on what we think about this
Speaker 1: United States Open. We'll start with you, Ryan, I mean,
Speaker 1: I love it. We're looking at the board right now.
Speaker 1: We have in the top five. Hayden Buckley won a
Speaker 1: playoff in a qualifier Tuesday morning to get in. Nick
Speaker 1: Hardy won a playoff to become a first alternate that
Speaker 1: took five holes in fourth. Matt Naysmith, Patrick Rogers, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's a dream come true. Jeff, what have you
Speaker 1: seen so far from you know, watching on your Telly
Speaker 1: and what's really captured your your fancy there? I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it was a bit of a different day, right.
Speaker 1: The course has played a lot easier this afternoon. I
Speaker 1: think the early late guy's got a bit stiff on
Speaker 1: the draw. It appears they're having a bit of a
Speaker 1: good time this afternoon. Rory looked like he could make
Speaker 1: a twelve. There was out in the third hole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he made a miraculous double, really good double, and
Speaker 1: he's back in the mix. It rhymes in the mix.
Speaker 1: Colin's playing well and as Ryan says, as a mix
Speaker 1: of qualifiers and sort of other players. I mean, Hayden
Speaker 1: Buckley's gonna have a big day tomorrow. Is probably gonna
Speaker 1: be out in the last group on Saturday in the Open.
Speaker 1: That's going to be a big day for him. That'll
Speaker 1: be exciting. So yeah, some heavy hitters floating around, Brian
Speaker 1: Harmon's going to be sneaky. It'd be a pretty good
Speaker 1: course for Brian Harmon. I would have thought sort of
Speaker 1: scrambling sort of place. So yeah, it's interesting at the moment.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's kind of perfect in that no one's
Speaker 1: getting too beaten up and the guys who are playing
Speaker 1: well a scoring well. I like the Jeff has always
Speaker 1: tuned into the draw like that. I got that's how
Speaker 1: pros think. You and Justine Reid, you're really focused on
Speaker 1: the draw on a comparison. Yeah, my good double is
Speaker 1: not a phrase you're here too often either, And it
Speaker 1: was an incredible double honestly. I mean yeah, like Jeff said,
Speaker 1: he could have blown himself. Roy could have blown himself
Speaker 1: right out of that tournament. And h he's bounced back
Speaker 1: with a couple of birdies. So he's now as we speak,
Speaker 1: he's tied for forth with a couple of holes to go.
Speaker 1: What have you seen that you like, Michael, Well, it's
Speaker 1: just neat just as you're framing this thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's you know, major major stars in the game and
Speaker 1: the major people that you know that Ryan has in
Speaker 1: his phone book but others do not. But you know,
Speaker 1: we haven't mentioned Scottie Scheffler. Scott a show for when
Speaker 1: the Master's Golf Tournament this year, and here he is
Speaker 1: contending on a completely different kind of golf course, which
Speaker 1: tells you that he must be very damn good at golf,
Speaker 1: which we know he is. I mean, Scheffler makes back
Speaker 1: to back bogie's the middle of his front nine, he's
Speaker 1: at plus two that the cut is projected for plus three.
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's on the cut line and then
Speaker 1: he roars home in thirty one guess to three hundred harum.
Speaker 1: I mean we haven't. We had a nice little break
Speaker 1: from Scottie Shelfer for a few weeks, but here he
Speaker 1: is again. It's it's weird when you look at the board,
Speaker 1: it's like the good scoring, Oh, it seems to just
Speaker 1: come in bunches for you know, three or four holes
Speaker 1: in the stretch of nine holes and the other nine
Speaker 1: might be very ordinary. But we've seen a lot of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that you know, there was a there's been a little
Speaker 1: flakum that I've detected on golf Twitter because they were
Speaker 1: watering the greens this morning and then a little a
Speaker 1: little rainstorm came through and it's like some people think, oh,
Speaker 1: they've already lost control of course on Friday morning. Others like, oh,
Speaker 1: the usg has gotten soft. But Jeff, you're discerning eye.
Speaker 1: Do you like the way of the greens are holding,
Speaker 1: releasing and running out? Well, I'll go back to the
Speaker 1: draw thing a little bit. I think it's a little
Speaker 1: fair for the guys who've played light early for that
Speaker 1: sort of thing to go on, you know. Um, But
Speaker 1: I mean it's sometimes you get right out of no way, right.
Speaker 1: You don't really expected if they felt like they need
Speaker 1: to put a bit of water on the grains um
Speaker 1: to sort of protect the integrity, and it doesn't so
Speaker 1: it didn't get to it out of hand, and um,
Speaker 1: they didn't lose the grains in the middle of the tournament.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's the right call, but it's
Speaker 1: always disappointing when you get on the wrong side of that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of angry boys in their
Speaker 1: hotels this afternoon watching this and the wind dies down
Speaker 1: and it's a bit softer than than it was for
Speaker 1: them yesterday afternoon. So, um, you've got to you've got
Speaker 1: to do what you've got to do. It's always a
Speaker 1: shame when they maybe kind of get it a bit
Speaker 1: wrong before the day, if they have to bring water
Speaker 1: out during the day, But you've gotta do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do. Yeah, well, it was you know, it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be forecast to be in the in the
Speaker 1: high eighties, which I think it is right now, But
Speaker 1: in the morning it was a little cooler, and they
Speaker 1: thought there was going to be a storm that might
Speaker 1: come in, and then they forecast it was going to
Speaker 1: blow away, and then it actually did come and dump.
Speaker 1: So it's been Yeah, the meteorologists have been out foxed
Speaker 1: by the golf guards. They kind of were wrong a
Speaker 1: couple times. But it's that that's the greatness of an
Speaker 1: outdoor sport. I mean, it's it's it's quirky and you
Speaker 1: just never know what gonna get. But from from watching
Speaker 1: from a far Jeff, you like to where the golf
Speaker 1: course is playing. All that said, I mean, it looks
Speaker 1: perfect as I said, it looks like it's rewarding the
Speaker 1: guys who are playing well. It looks super tough, looks
Speaker 1: like you can get in a lot of trouble, which
Speaker 1: is like a US Open. You can be playing really
Speaker 1: well and you just go along and you get one
Speaker 1: little bad shot. You're getting a really awkward spot and
Speaker 1: you make a double really quickly. But as I said
Speaker 1: that the good shots seem to be going in a
Speaker 1: good place that they're getting home on part fives, which
Speaker 1: I think is fun. Sometimes you get these opens and
Speaker 1: they just make the part fives. No one can get home.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of fun to see eagles and a
Speaker 1: few birdies and a few others. And as I said,
Speaker 1: I'm always I don't really the score relative to part
Speaker 1: I don't think it is that important. People think it is,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's important at all. I just think, well,
Speaker 1: you want to identify the best players for the week,
Speaker 1: and this looks like it's identifying some pretty good players.
Speaker 1: Still a lot of guys in there, so it's obviously
Speaker 1: not crazy hard yet. But I'm sure the USG you'll
Speaker 1: feel like it's maybe been a bit easy this afternoon,
Speaker 1: and that it'll be a little different tomorrow morning. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it looks like it's playing great. It looks
Speaker 1: like a really fun place to play. I'm not a
Speaker 1: fun place if you're not playing well, but if you're
Speaker 1: playing well, it looks like that's sort of an enjoyable
Speaker 1: open to play it from afar, I wonder if any
Speaker 1: of you guys have insight into this, because I surely
Speaker 1: do not. They had a great US Open here in
Speaker 1: sixty three, a great US opreneur Needy. They had a
Speaker 1: great Writer Cup here in ninety nine. It looks like
Speaker 1: they're gonna a really great US Open here. Why is
Speaker 1: this golf club not getting the respectrum love that it deserves?
Speaker 1: Witness that oak Mine is like they're playing the US
Speaker 1: Open there every other year from here to eternity. And
Speaker 1: this place can't catch a cold. Because my uber took
Speaker 1: seven and a half hours to get here. I believe
Speaker 1: it's infastrul. I don't know. It's an awesome place. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean you're onto something there, Ryan. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a it's a smaller build out. They just don't have
Speaker 1: the footprint here, which it seems expansive. You know, we're
Speaker 1: in this giant whatever racketball facility or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But there's when you walk around, there's there's not the
Speaker 1: gigantic corporate villages and there's not as many tents, and
Speaker 1: I think this is not as financially rewarding a venue.
Speaker 1: They just they can't they can't get bring in the
Speaker 1: corporate entertainment. And I don't know, I haven't delved into
Speaker 1: the ticket sales, but I feel like the crowds are
Speaker 1: not as big as they have been at some other opens.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's just a little bandbox. It's hemmed in.
Speaker 1: As Ryan said, it's hard to get people in and out.
Speaker 1: So it's the Fenway Park of golf courses. That's a
Speaker 1: perfect comparison. So I just I think that's probably you know,
Speaker 1: it's a great insight as you said before, follow the money.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those deals where it's a
Speaker 1: net place. They're going to come back every every Periodley
Speaker 1: so we can talk about Francis we met and all
Speaker 1: that that fun stuff, but it's not in the rotation
Speaker 1: because it might. It's just not a lucrative venue. And um,
Speaker 1: it's sad, but you know, the USGA, the US Open,
Speaker 1: we all know kind of floats whole organizations, so if
Speaker 1: if they can take a big hit, they just can't
Speaker 1: do it that often. Yep, it makes Jeff, do you
Speaker 1: have any any insight into that at all from your
Speaker 1: USJA conversations over the years. I think that's unfortunately. Alan's
Speaker 1: exactly right. I think it's a commercial operation and they
Speaker 1: fund the whole the whole year based on the back
Speaker 1: of the us Open, so they have to do it. Yeah, commercially,
Speaker 1: I think the places like um that are a bit
Speaker 1: easier to get to. Obviously Oakmont a winner for them,
Speaker 1: you know, Pebbles obviously a winner for them, the merchandise
Speaker 1: and that sort of stuff. So yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: purely that sort of decision, which is a shame, but
Speaker 1: it's the it's the realities of the modern world, right.
Speaker 1: We need the USGA to keep control of golf, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, in the country and a lot
Speaker 1: of the world. So they need to fund their operation.
Speaker 1: If this is their main vehicle for it, it's you've
Speaker 1: got to do it. But you need to have these
Speaker 1: ones somewhat regularly, not always maybe the country club, but
Speaker 1: the venues like this, because it just adds just a
Speaker 1: whole lot of credibility to the tournament, a lot of charm,
Speaker 1: and you need that history and you need that the
Speaker 1: old stories to sort of keep the US Open being
Speaker 1: the US Open, right, So you've got to put it
Speaker 1: in every now and then. This is really far afield,
Speaker 1: But since I'll make this very brief, it's sort of
Speaker 1: my theme for the day, Jeff, have you become a
Speaker 1: student of US Open history at all? Because I've got
Speaker 1: a very narrow question. On the chance that you have,
Speaker 1: probably not all by the sounds of your I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a try. I'm probably the only
Speaker 1: person is just hit in this thing. Everybody knows that
Speaker 1: Francis we Met is the first American to win the
Speaker 1: US Open, except for the fact that he's not. Johnny
Speaker 1: McDermott is the first American when the US Open and
Speaker 1: Francis I went to the we Met house today, which
Speaker 1: was super cool and interesting, but I'm just a little
Speaker 1: freaked out. I happened from Philadelphia, where McDermott was from.
Speaker 1: But you know, Francis we Met was a twenty year
Speaker 1: old caddy. Well you know McDermott was a Philadelphia caddy
Speaker 1: as well. Why does we met get all the credit.
Speaker 1: By the way, the twenty five cent Francis we met
Speaker 1: stamp is sales for about two hundred dollars on eb
Speaker 1: right now, And nobody ever talks about poor Johnny McDermott.
Speaker 1: It's well, it's the Eddie Lowry photo, you know, the
Speaker 1: little the little sea urchin or a street urchin, you know,
Speaker 1: thirteen years old trailing down the ferry. That photo is
Speaker 1: so iconic, and it's just there's so much folklore and
Speaker 1: beating you know, Ted Ray and Harry Varton, like, who
Speaker 1: did Johnny mcdermotby? Can you tell us right now? Michael Student,
Speaker 1: student of US Open History. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: There you go, you just answered your own question. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, these they were the two dominant You had
Speaker 1: the US the under the gritty underdog against the imperial
Speaker 1: power of England. I mean, there's so many things going
Speaker 1: on there, but yeah, I think you answered your own question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very quickly. Do you have you ever even looked into
Speaker 1: this or thought about it? Not until now? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm probably pretty good in US opens back into the
Speaker 1: eighties and the seventies, maybe even not that fat back.
Speaker 1: Don know, lou Graham's putting style. Now, Jeffy did win
Speaker 1: at me Dinah, but he was elbows out, crazily elbows out.
Speaker 1: All right, we move on, I will say. I mean,
Speaker 1: the fun thing about excavating history is by getting to
Speaker 1: watch all the Curtis Strain highlights this week, because of
Speaker 1: course he wanted at the country club such a I
Speaker 1: love his action. But the white shirt, hot red pants,
Speaker 1: white shoes is undefeated. What a look. It's just gorgeous.
Speaker 1: And seven stall that look, or maybe Curtis stall it
Speaker 1: from Stubby and Curtis is inside. He's really coming inside,
Speaker 1: I know. But it just works, man, it's here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole thing is neat. So Ryan, let let's go
Speaker 1: back to some of the names on the board, because
Speaker 1: you know Hayden Buckley, well let's call Mark cow had
Speaker 1: just made a birdie on his seventeenth hole, so Buckley's
Speaker 1: now dropped to a second place. But what can you
Speaker 1: tell us about this guy? And if there's any of
Speaker 1: the other somewhat unknowns on the board, who who you're
Speaker 1: interested in? This is this is your stage where let's
Speaker 1: hear it yet. Actually I was just pulling up a
Speaker 1: screen shot to tweet out it is super interesting of
Speaker 1: Hayden Buckley's story. It was an interview I did with
Speaker 1: him when I was writing for the PGA Tour, and
Speaker 1: he was not recruited so at all, like literally at all.
Speaker 1: He didn't have any college offers at all, didn't play
Speaker 1: any big junior events, and his swing coach, Chris Harder,
Speaker 1: played for the coach played at Austin p for a
Speaker 1: coach named Mark Larow and Marc Laro eventually went to
Speaker 1: the University of missus Missouri. So Chris Harder, who was
Speaker 1: Hayden buckley swing coach at the time, called Mark LaRoe
Speaker 1: and said, Hey, I'm telling you this kid is going
Speaker 1: to be really good, and Marc Laroux was like, I'll
Speaker 1: take him almost as like a favor as a favor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Hayden Buckley got one percent scholarship to go to the
Speaker 1: University of un Missouri. And now I was leading, well
Speaker 1: a minute ago, was leading the US Open. That's so cool.
Speaker 1: How about Nie Smith or any of the other guys?
Speaker 1: Who else do you want to I mean, Nick Hardy
Speaker 1: uh posted a story today about he pulled the Billy
Speaker 1: Madison with a with a player in the Big Ten Championship.
Speaker 1: A teammate of his at went to the went into
Speaker 1: the woods to take a piss pete all over his pants.
Speaker 1: Was a freshman, super embarrassed, and Nick Hardy went into
Speaker 1: the woods pete on himself so his thing would feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: They went on to win the Big Ten Championship. Very
Speaker 1: true story. It's it's trending currently on Twitter. Couldn't he
Speaker 1: have just offered him a pep talk? Did he really
Speaker 1: have to take it that far? It seems aggressive, but
Speaker 1: it's fine. But he is a great kid, super talented,
Speaker 1: as battles some injuries this year on the tour, and
Speaker 1: obviously he doesn't care. No one's thinking about it. But
Speaker 1: he's way way down at FedEx Cup points and like
Speaker 1: he has to in the back of his mind have
Speaker 1: to think about even keeping his card, So this week
Speaker 1: is just hugely important from that aspect. Obviously he's not
Speaker 1: thinking about that now he's won back at the US Open,
Speaker 1: but a good a good week will go a long
Speaker 1: way in just getting his card. I love it. The
Speaker 1: stories never stopped being interesting and as you've said already
Speaker 1: a few times on this podcast platform, it that's really
Speaker 1: what this tournament's all about. But also, uh, just the
Speaker 1: spring of the variety of of of names and embody
Speaker 1: types on the board. I mean, could there be anyone
Speaker 1: more slender than than Matthew Fitzpatrick in this field? And
Speaker 1: I mean Will's elet would Will's eleturs? Okay? Uh, Brian
Speaker 1: Harmon is diminutive, and then you got enormous oversized people
Speaker 1: like like Scottie Scheffler and uh. But Mark cow is
Speaker 1: very normal physic But I guess like when we first
Speaker 1: started seeing Tiger Emerge and VJ and others, it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's going to be the end of
Speaker 1: the Larry Mises, but it's really not. Actually, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different ways to get the game, to get
Speaker 1: the ball around the golf course, well, especially of course
Speaker 1: like this that's you know, playing sevent two hundred yards
Speaker 1: maximum and they're setting up a little bit shorter like
Speaker 1: so it really is more finesse and more position, more precision.
Speaker 1: But um me, no, I love that this is I
Speaker 1: called Rory a wee lad in a tweet and and
Speaker 1: some people took exception you could deal with the short
Speaker 1: guys on Twitter are like that's he's an average height.
Speaker 1: I said, really, oh please, he's a little wee, right,
Speaker 1: he's short. Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm towering over
Speaker 1: him and he hits it seventeen d past me. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I mean I said he's become the most towering figure
Speaker 1: in the game. I mean, I was having some fun.
Speaker 1: But I think we lad of it. I'll stand by that. Um,
Speaker 1: let's talk about a couple of the names at the
Speaker 1: top of the board. Because Colin Mark Cow somehow all
Speaker 1: he's accomplished in his career already, he seems somewhat overlooked.
Speaker 1: And if you were to get a third major championship here,
Speaker 1: it would just it would be gangbusters. And this is
Speaker 1: what I wanted to ask you about, Jeff, because you know,
Speaker 1: Mark Cow has always played this beautiful sort of butter
Speaker 1: cut and highly reliable, and he just started decided to
Speaker 1: start drawing the ball and I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: decided to play a draw and so learning to trust it.
Speaker 1: Like it always amazed me when guys get to the
Speaker 1: mountaintop and they seem to have the game figured out,
Speaker 1: they keep tweaking and experimenting. What is it in the
Speaker 1: golfers mentality that makes you keep experimenting? When when you're
Speaker 1: playing great golf and you seemingly have achieved your dreams, Like,
Speaker 1: why keep messing around? I don't know, we're all doing
Speaker 1: We're idiots, really, I don't know. It's the nature of
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, we're sort of strivers to get
Speaker 1: to this point of golf. You're kind of pretty stubborn anyway,
Speaker 1: you know you have to be. It's just the nature
Speaker 1: of the sport. So I I don't know. We've all
Speaker 1: done it. Chase something that we don't have. He swings
Speaker 1: it so good, he'll work it out. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I mean, when he's universally praised as the best iron
Speaker 1: player on tour, he would sort of mess with that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, maybe he had a run of three
Speaker 1: or four tournaments in a row where he had where
Speaker 1: he had sort of left right winds and left pins
Speaker 1: and he couldn't get anywhere near him and it was
Speaker 1: frustrating him a little bit, a few weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: And we'd come to home one day and says, I'm
Speaker 1: going in a draw if I want to compete with
Speaker 1: Rory or something like that, And it gets your head
Speaker 1: and then we all think none of us, or at
Speaker 1: least I didn't, and I think most of us you
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything you can't do, you know, so
Speaker 1: stubbornly you just work on it, and you just assume
Speaker 1: when everything's going well and you don't hit any bad
Speaker 1: shots like Colin did for so long, you just assume
Speaker 1: that you can just keep doing that any way you
Speaker 1: want to. You know, it's not until you sort of
Speaker 1: open Pandora's box a little bit that you start realizing, my,
Speaker 1: perhaps I shouldn't have gone down that alleyway because it's
Speaker 1: hard to find your way back. I don't know. We
Speaker 1: all do it, though, I mean commented it for a
Speaker 1: long time. Westwood struggled for a long time in his
Speaker 1: middle of his career. I mean, well even Finch he
Speaker 1: did it with his driving, trying to hit a bit further.
Speaker 1: He just come off the open, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: There's we've all it's history shows that golfers have been
Speaker 1: doing that sort of thing forever. But clearly he's managing
Speaker 1: it fine and he's on top of the leaderboard. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just a stubborn golfers, I think, and I
Speaker 1: think you get bored. I think practicing the same thing
Speaker 1: day and day in and day out, and you just
Speaker 1: want to want to try. I know Curtis has said that,
Speaker 1: you know, he felt like you needed to try different
Speaker 1: things because he's getting tired of working on the same
Speaker 1: thing day after day after day. But having said that,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, a couple of casual comments or
Speaker 1: maybe not so casual mint comments and interviews, we can
Speaker 1: run with it all day long. But the reality is,
Speaker 1: you know, if it's a left pin, right pin, short
Speaker 1: long pin at Markows skill level, he's going to play
Speaker 1: the shot he needs to play. He's gonna fade it
Speaker 1: or draw. It's not like he abandoned one shot and
Speaker 1: one swing in the favor of something else. You know,
Speaker 1: they're way way I mean, Jeff would know this far
Speaker 1: better than I. They're way too fine tuned machines to
Speaker 1: completely get rid of one swing in favor of another.
Speaker 1: Would that be accurate, Jeff, Yeah, I mean you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean he can hit every shot. I mean it's
Speaker 1: probably yeah, he can hit every shot. I mean he's
Speaker 1: trying to. You just want to be complete, you know,
Speaker 1: you just you want to be able to get to
Speaker 1: left pins and rock pins and hit all those shots.
Speaker 1: And it can be frustrating. As I said, if you
Speaker 1: can only move it one way and you get in,
Speaker 1: you're only fighting, and you get left right wins with
Speaker 1: left pins. It feels like for a week a week,
Speaker 1: you just you just can't compete one week. It's frustrating,
Speaker 1: you know, so you kind of want the complete thing.
Speaker 1: And he's to be fair, he seems a very he's
Speaker 1: a very peaceful sort of guy. He's got that great
Speaker 1: golf mentality. He's never going to get too far off.
Speaker 1: I don't think Golan gentlemen, I have to exit. I'm
Speaker 1: going to go talk to the twenty twenty two US
Speaker 1: Open winner, Hayden Buckley. I'm gonna try to get a
Speaker 1: one on one. If you do well, then you better
Speaker 1: see our new friends, who are the sports gamblers. Since
Speaker 1: you seemed already know the answer, that's right. This is
Speaker 1: this is a fire drill first, like someone just stormed
Speaker 1: off the set. I mean, this is this is history. Um, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be next in leaving with ship and
Speaker 1: a cologne are you? Can you imagine the listenership would
Speaker 1: plummet if Jeff left, We could we could lose Ryan.
Speaker 1: But if Jeff goes we're in trouble. Um, So how
Speaker 1: about John Ram, who's who's looking to defend his championship.
Speaker 1: He's making a great run. Yeah, he's got one whole
Speaker 1: left to play right now, he's in second place, one
Speaker 1: one stroke at he's been a little quiet. I mean,
Speaker 1: for even last year, there was no doubt that he
Speaker 1: was the most efficient golfer in the world. He look
Speaker 1: at all the numbers, all the strokes gained. He was
Speaker 1: better at golf anybody else. But he only had the
Speaker 1: one win, which was the US Open. It's a good
Speaker 1: one obviously, but and of course he probably would have
Speaker 1: won Amoral, but the COVID stuff knocked him out. That
Speaker 1: that was a bad beat. But again, his trivial show.
Speaker 1: He only won one tournament last year, even though he
Speaker 1: was playing at such an incredibly high level. So it's
Speaker 1: not like we're down on John Rom. But how is
Speaker 1: it important it for him to pick off another big
Speaker 1: win at this juncture in his career. I think it
Speaker 1: would be astounding him because this golf course is so
Speaker 1: different from where he won last year, Totally different grass,
Speaker 1: totally different demands in terms of drivery game. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it would be really a big statement for
Speaker 1: John rom to win on this little golf course, he
Speaker 1: would get more credit than he's He deserves a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for being a really outstanding golfer. But I
Speaker 1: think it would absolutely raise him to the real elite
Speaker 1: of the elite. Yeah, Jeff, your thoughts on that, Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to keep that level up. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not like that's not that long since this time
Speaker 1: last year. You know, he's kind of one of the
Speaker 1: guys you have to pick before every one of these
Speaker 1: big tournaments. But yeah, to win it on the West Coast,
Speaker 1: I mean about as far geographically a part as you
Speaker 1: can get in the US to win two US Opens.
Speaker 1: As you said, different grass, but I think it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's clearly a US Open style player. It's the ball great,
Speaker 1: he can hit the ball high, it's the ball miles
Speaker 1: in his short game when he gets scrambling, he's incredible.
Speaker 1: You know, he's just I think I said on the
Speaker 1: TV before I was he only hit ball greens on
Speaker 1: the front nine and was one under or something. So
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. That's US Open stuff, you know, to
Speaker 1: sort of weather the storm for nine holes when you're
Speaker 1: not hitting that very well and sort of not too
Speaker 1: too much damage, and history shows when he gets in
Speaker 1: the mix he usually stays there. You know. He loves
Speaker 1: the moment. The closer you get to the seventy second,
Speaker 1: closer you get to the seventy second hole, the better
Speaker 1: he is. And he has that sort of tiger like
Speaker 1: knack to come up with really really cool stuff on
Speaker 1: the last two or three holes. He's done it a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, So if he gets there in the mix,
Speaker 1: if he'd be seems to be a really hard guy
Speaker 1: to get in front of on Sunday, you know, in
Speaker 1: the last few holes. So fun to see him play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be a massive feather in your cap and
Speaker 1: two us opens it a road. Not many people have
Speaker 1: done that, so that would be pretty amazing. Jeff, have
Speaker 1: you ever played with Ron Ron? I played with him
Speaker 1: a couple of times as an amateur. Actually, when Phil
Speaker 1: was we played some practice rounds with Phil out there.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a while ago now. When he was
Speaker 1: at ASU, he goes, this kid's going to be one
Speaker 1: of the best players you've ever seen, and I thought, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's all right, you know, but he just got better
Speaker 1: and better and better. And better and better. Also remember
Speaker 1: at wis Brocks. I've seen him there a little bit
Speaker 1: in Scottsdale. So incredibly nice man and just golf does
Speaker 1: seem quite It's just such a simple way he plays,
Speaker 1: you know, it just doesn't seem like there's a lot
Speaker 1: that can go wrong. Yea brilliant, fantastic golfer. But he
Speaker 1: runs hot like Sevey did another Spanish gulp. I mean,
Speaker 1: not to reduce these people to country cliches at all,
Speaker 1: but he does run hot, and that's part of his
Speaker 1: greatness from what I've seen. I think, as I was
Speaker 1: sort of saying a bit about Rory yesterday, I think
Speaker 1: that's a it's an attribute if you can kind of
Speaker 1: get a handle on it, you know, like to be fair.
Speaker 1: I mean, Tiger was very very well, not always very
Speaker 1: good at hiding it, but he sort of was running
Speaker 1: pretty hot most of the time, you know, when he
Speaker 1: was at his best. So it's it's just the nature
Speaker 1: of sort of getting the best out of yourself, I think,
Speaker 1: and he really really wants it and sometimes if you
Speaker 1: if you push yourself to the aids, Like you said,
Speaker 1: it's a race, I mean, it's like a race car.
Speaker 1: It's like you've got to sort of risk it breaking
Speaker 1: to get the most out of it. And so he
Speaker 1: sort of has to risk risk the blowouts if he's
Speaker 1: the mental blowouts if he's going to play his best,
Speaker 1: because he obviously has to be right there and fired up.
Speaker 1: And that's probably why so great in the last two
Speaker 1: or three holes of a magic you know, Um, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's just the way some people up right and need
Speaker 1: to opright. So at the risk of trafficking in stereotypes,
Speaker 1: when I asked last year at the US Open, I
Speaker 1: asked Paul Casey, what do you love most about John
Speaker 1: Ram's game? And Casey said, Spanish hands. Imagine being a
Speaker 1: young lad in Spain and you're in you're a terrible chipper,
Speaker 1: and picture that was you're drenched in shave. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: there are any there are any indeed, Jeff can I
Speaker 1: can I ask you this because I don't know if
Speaker 1: I don't know how widely known this is. But when
Speaker 1: people talk about, you know, the country club takes the
Speaker 1: driver out of hand, and you know it's not just
Speaker 1: for bombers, and that's true. I mean, if you look
Speaker 1: at the holes and you see their shots that they're
Speaker 1: playing off the tee that that is an extra true fact.
Speaker 1: But length is always an advantage period. Uh And Jeff,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you could just take that sentence and
Speaker 1: explain why that's true to our listenership. Well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's even more of an advantage. I think when
Speaker 1: you don't have driver on every hole. I think because
Speaker 1: that you can hit less club, you can safely get
Speaker 1: it to the same place. I mean, some guys might
Speaker 1: have to hit three would where already can hit four
Speaker 1: on under a fairway. You know, it's just it's an
Speaker 1: infinite advantage because you're always going to be hitting less.
Speaker 1: It's always more, it's always more accurate to hit less club.
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you have to hit a two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards off it t, it's going to
Speaker 1: be easier if you're already hit bo on than it's
Speaker 1: for some guys hit three would. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: going to be a straighter club to hit. And also,
Speaker 1: length generally is power, and power lets you create more spin,
Speaker 1: you can hit the ball higher, you can get the
Speaker 1: ball out of the rough more. It's just never not
Speaker 1: going to be an advantage. It's like having power in
Speaker 1: your car. Even if you don't use it. It's still
Speaker 1: an advantage to have power in your car. It's the
Speaker 1: same when you play golf, even if you're hitting it
Speaker 1: to the same places if you're hitting less if you
Speaker 1: can hit less club to the same places, or you
Speaker 1: can hit it easy, you don't have to hit it
Speaker 1: quite as hard, or it's a little bit more under control.
Speaker 1: It's just a little bit easier to do. That always
Speaker 1: an advantage. Never, never not the shorter In fact, it
Speaker 1: been length. It's probably more of an advantage on a
Speaker 1: shorter course than it is on a longer course. Sometimes
Speaker 1: because of that, you can hit less clubs everywhere, and
Speaker 1: you can, as I said, you can generally spin the
Speaker 1: ball really well and hit the ball higher. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just power is an advantage. I mean it's not
Speaker 1: you can beat power if you're really good. I mean,
Speaker 1: Colin can beat John Rome this weekend without even thinking
Speaker 1: about it, while he's proof that he can. But there's
Speaker 1: still it's still just easier to hit less club you know,
Speaker 1: from the same spot. It just is always going to
Speaker 1: be Yeah and Jeff along on those same lines. How
Speaker 1: about when you have enormous leg strength like John Ram
Speaker 1: has and like you know, Nicholas certainly had and other
Speaker 1: greats through the years. The ordinary fan wouldn't think of
Speaker 1: that being an advantage in one's putting game, but it
Speaker 1: is very leg strength really is an advantage in the
Speaker 1: And again I'm wondering if you might be able to
Speaker 1: explain why why that is. I've never actually really thought
Speaker 1: about it, but it would be for sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: just the more stable you are, for one of them,
Speaker 1: me and John Rahman, Jack Nicholas, with all the affection
Speaker 1: in the world. Bottom heavy golfers, um, but in a
Speaker 1: good way. I mean all the great golfers, Trevino, not
Speaker 1: all the great of a lot of them. If you
Speaker 1: actually look back at Jones and Snead and they all
Speaker 1: sort of got bigger down load, you know. And I
Speaker 1: think that's because the great great golf swings are using
Speaker 1: their legs a lot, and they just as they grow up,
Speaker 1: they're using their legs so much that they just get
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger and bigger in that area because that's
Speaker 1: where they need to be strong. But yeah, and the
Speaker 1: pudding game, just the more stable you can be and
Speaker 1: the less you move around, I think clearly, and putting
Speaker 1: it's clearly less of a less of an advantage that
Speaker 1: it is in the long game, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: there's some pretty good skinny leg putters around, but yeah,
Speaker 1: the leg strength is just going to be in a
Speaker 1: h It's a bit like length as a golfer, it's
Speaker 1: just probably always going to be an advantage leg strength,
Speaker 1: especially core sort of in the bomb gloats Hips area.
Speaker 1: Most really long term great golfers have been big and
Speaker 1: strong in that area. So it's clearly an advantage. Yea.
Speaker 1: And even with Carrie Webb, you see it, even when
Speaker 1: when Anica got big and strong sack. So that's a
Speaker 1: great example. She looks so solid over the ball, every
Speaker 1: shot right through the back, including the putter. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: this is not going to impress Jeff. But I did
Speaker 1: win the putting competition with the Uncle Tony Invitational back
Speaker 1: to back of years, and one competitor complained that because
Speaker 1: I have size thirteen feet, I had two touches of advantage.
Speaker 1: I was so stable over the ball and he wanted
Speaker 1: me to have to put barefoot when I was going
Speaker 1: for a three peet, but I fended that off. But
Speaker 1: it was, as you're saying, Michael, you know we've left
Speaker 1: out of these conversations. Who's really protetypical? But Gary Woodland
Speaker 1: he looks like he's not going anywhere, you know, when
Speaker 1: he's over those putts. Baby got back for sure, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I heard a great sound ter day, Gary Woodland walking
Speaker 1: down a brick path. You can guess why. It's the
Speaker 1: best noise in golfers. It was so rare. Everyone's like
Speaker 1: him and are looking or whoever. I was with Bill
Speaker 1: Pennington from the Times. Wow, that's a great sound. I
Speaker 1: missed that sound. I mean, it's I know, it's so
Speaker 1: much better for the greens and the surfaces, so much better.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I wouldn't be happy to
Speaker 1: just go back and hear that, especially the old leather,
Speaker 1: so old classics and stuff. They just sounded so amazing
Speaker 1: walking out walking to the clubhouse and you hear it
Speaker 1: the two is the only place you ever hear it anymore,
Speaker 1: and you hear the odd guy doing it. It's yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, the kids these days probably think it's ridiculous
Speaker 1: that guys wear those things, and they don't understand. They
Speaker 1: don't have the romance. But there's nothing like sparks walking
Speaker 1: through a parking What kind of shoes are you sounding gold?
Speaker 1: What kind of shoes were you wearing when you won?
Speaker 1: I had sparkes at Wingfoot, Yeah, I varied, I alternated.
Speaker 1: I have generally up to about there. I was always
Speaker 1: wearing spikes most of the time, sort of. I was
Speaker 1: wearing soft spikes sort of after that sort of era.
Speaker 1: And the shoes are so good and so comfortable now,
Speaker 1: and they've they've sort of kind of worked out the
Speaker 1: soft spikes traction thing pretty well. But I always wore
Speaker 1: metal spikes at the Masters, the side slopes and greasy
Speaker 1: mostly for the second shot on thirteen actually bore away
Speaker 1: above my feet. I used to get the chef like
Speaker 1: going there pretty regularly on my second shot there, and
Speaker 1: it freaked me out. So I'd wear metal spikes for
Speaker 1: the second shot on thirteen. I don't go generally, but
Speaker 1: that was towards the end that was the only place
Speaker 1: I'd wear it. It's wild everything we've done in our
Speaker 1: journalistic careers, Michael has brought us this moment to listen
Speaker 1: to you and Jeff blacked poetic about metal spikes on
Speaker 1: a parking lot that there's nothing I've never been happier
Speaker 1: in my entire life? Can I ask one last shoe question?
Speaker 1: This already begins with your size thirteen shoe. Had you
Speaker 1: not started there, we probably wouldn't go into the spot. Jeff,
Speaker 1: this may precede you're involving in the game, but your
Speaker 1: parents and Adam Scott's and others might have had it.
Speaker 1: There was sometimes a leather covering of the laces. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm referring to the flap side of
Speaker 1: the laces, the flaps over the laces. I look ridiculous,
Speaker 1: but that was so good. Do you know what that?
Speaker 1: You know? There's a term you had him? Oh yeahs
Speaker 1: to stop the water getting in your licenses like it
Speaker 1: was because that was the vulnerable spot in your shoes.
Speaker 1: So you're walking through the rockets, it protected uh, your
Speaker 1: shoe from getting water in there. Alan, do you think
Speaker 1: there's anybody in this press tent who's going to use
Speaker 1: the word vulnerable better than Jeff Ogilvy just did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the context of their word, I stand in awe,
Speaker 1: but I'll really stand it off. You know the answer
Speaker 1: to the following question, do you know that the flap
Speaker 1: as you say, which is the perfect word, but there
Speaker 1: is a term of golf for that flap. Do you
Speaker 1: know it? Um, I'm sure you'll remind me. I've heard.
Speaker 1: Is it quilty? Oh, he's good. Is it kilt? I'm
Speaker 1: Surelie heard it from you, so I would. I kind
Speaker 1: of got the answers from the teacher. But this is
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Yeah, I use that word in
Speaker 1: a long time because it looks like a little kilt skirt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see that, speak of which. I saw a
Speaker 1: crunshot today and we talked about him. Where he was.
Speaker 1: He was playing your field and a kilt and and
Speaker 1: his caddy was carrying his bag without clubs. And his
Speaker 1: caddy was Herb Wind. He was playing with hickory shafted
Speaker 1: clubs for some reason. Herb was cadding for and you
Speaker 1: had to laugh about that. It was funny. But he
Speaker 1: had one club and had about six clubs. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it was there was a few clubs in the bag,
Speaker 1: but there was no bag. Herb just had him in here.
Speaker 1: I see. I couldn't even understand. It was like when
Speaker 1: I played Peter. Hey, you know I've got like three wedges. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, that's funny. Um, all right, last
Speaker 1: thing and then we'll end this very Breezy Um podcast.
Speaker 1: To me, one of the underlying issues in the highest
Speaker 1: level of the game is who is the best golfer
Speaker 1: in the world right now? You can make a case
Speaker 1: for Mari Kawa, especially if wins here, that might end
Speaker 1: the debate. But GT with his second major, Ram has
Speaker 1: got all the strokes, game numbers. Scheffler has been on
Speaker 1: this heater. Rory often looks like the best player, but
Speaker 1: then he kind of stumbles at times. You know, Dustin
Speaker 1: used to be in the conversation. He's fallen off a
Speaker 1: little bit. But put your guys on the spot. Who
Speaker 1: is the best golf in the world right now this moment? Jeff,
Speaker 1: I don't think does it matter you say this? It's
Speaker 1: an issue, like does it really matter? Isn't this unbelievable
Speaker 1: that we've got this many good players? Like I think
Speaker 1: right now as it stands, I mean probably Rory and
Speaker 1: Rory probably because the last week and he's one behind
Speaker 1: and on the leaderboard, but it changes weekly. We're used
Speaker 1: to having guys being number one in the world. I mean,
Speaker 1: we had Greg for ten years and then we had
Speaker 1: Tiger for twenty years, and we kind of got it.
Speaker 1: Made you guys lazy. You have to go and sort
Speaker 1: of do something work now and workout who's the best.
Speaker 1: It's going to change, it changes week to week. I mean,
Speaker 1: Scottie clearly was the best goal from the world the
Speaker 1: first four months of the year, but not even close.
Speaker 1: You know, m Dustin said his turn. I mean John's
Speaker 1: had his turn, like it's it's JT's Clearly. When I
Speaker 1: say JT play up close, I'm like, it's amazing to
Speaker 1: me that anyone can beat that guy. So I just
Speaker 1: think it's, um, it's a bit more fluid than it's
Speaker 1: ever been. We've never had this many people capable of
Speaker 1: meting number one, have we? At the same time, it's incredible. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: a couple things I'd like to respond to there, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it matters, but none of this matters
Speaker 1: is we're having fun and something to talk about. Secondly,
Speaker 1: did you did you note that embedded in that answer
Speaker 1: was another critique of how we do our job's calling
Speaker 1: us lazy. I mean, yesterday both Ryan and Jeff were
Speaker 1: on our ass about, you know, turn into like a
Speaker 1: media criticism podcast. I would just I would just criticize
Speaker 1: the the golf media again in general. You were the
Speaker 1: only person interviewing mister Hardy. No, no, the questions that
Speaker 1: Hayden Buckley was just asked or like like the guy
Speaker 1: just walked it off the street. I mean, was an
Speaker 1: All American at Missouri one on the corn Ferry tour
Speaker 1: and they're like, and you spell your name with a
Speaker 1: why why? Anyway, Ryan French back on the podcast, still
Speaker 1: spitting fire. We were just about to end it. I
Speaker 1: think we're still gonna end it. But do you have
Speaker 1: an insight you can share with us from Yon Buckley's
Speaker 1: gonna win the US Open. You said it on the
Speaker 1: way out, so I'm not saying it. I've talked to
Speaker 1: him just now. I'm one hundred percent confitent. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: you give us one reason why besides your fantastical you know, desires. So, Hayden,
Speaker 1: the story I told one phone call his Corn Ferry
Speaker 1: win was he was first alternate Thursday morning on the range.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Jeff's ever been a first alternate
Speaker 1: in a PGA Tour event or corn Ferry, but Jeff
Speaker 1: knows enough to know what that is like. And a
Speaker 1: guy slammed his hand in the door and he got
Speaker 1: into the event. Truth. I broke the story that the
Speaker 1: guy slammed his hand in the door and he went
Speaker 1: on to win that week. That's awesome. He's supposed to
Speaker 1: He's only in Canada. It's like some travel nightmares. Barely
Speaker 1: got there. It's like all the times, and this time
Speaker 1: he won a five whole playoff. It's like, it's kind
Speaker 1: of the stars are aligning. Okay, I like it. We
Speaker 1: were just talking about who's the who's the best golf
Speaker 1: in the world right now? And um, Michael, what's your
Speaker 1: answer to that? You know, I'm really I'm right right
Speaker 1: with with Jeff. If Scottie Shuffler wins, of course he's
Speaker 1: the answer. But you know, over the last five years,
Speaker 1: I guess Rory or Dustin Johnson's the answer is. I'm
Speaker 1: more likely to just enjoy the fact I have so
Speaker 1: many good golfers at the moment. Of course, if more
Speaker 1: Cowho wins, he would be the answer. But it's just
Speaker 1: neat to see so many good players playing good golf
Speaker 1: at the same time. All Right, I'm gonna say, JT,
Speaker 1: do you want do you want to weigh in who's
Speaker 1: the best golfer in the world? Don't don't watch them
Speaker 1: don't watch the top guys. That's such a good answer.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, uh, this is like you know, Sein
Speaker 1: felt the end. This is a podcast about nothing, and
Speaker 1: yet it was it was quite entertaining. So uh, any
Speaker 1: any parting thoughts for now, It's just I think what
Speaker 1: I think what Ryan just said about. You know, whoever
Speaker 1: is going to win this thing. You know, if it's
Speaker 1: not a big name that that we're so familiar with,
Speaker 1: and that happens, you know, Scott Simpsons won and Steve
Speaker 1: Jones's won, and guys win that you don't really know
Speaker 1: that well, but it really it's when it happens at
Speaker 1: a US Open it's especially great because it just reminds
Speaker 1: you this thing really is a dream machine. I'm just
Speaker 1: as a quick side note, I only learned this recently.
Speaker 1: Fewer than twenty thousand people have played Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: Hundreds of millions of people have had the dream at
Speaker 1: some moment. You know, maybe not hundreds of millions, but
Speaker 1: millions of millions have had the dreaming they're going to
Speaker 1: play it. And that's really what this US Opened, or
Speaker 1: any British Open for that matter, Open championship is really
Speaker 1: all about. It's it's about to dream of the odds
Speaker 1: of Jeff Ogilvie growing up, or Scott Simpson or anybody
Speaker 1: else growing up and getting good enough at the game
Speaker 1: to Winnie's US Open. It's astronomical. If you look at
Speaker 1: like I was looking at Billy Andreate's record today, to
Speaker 1: play twenty or thirty major championships, it's astounding because there
Speaker 1: are millions of people would love to do it, and
Speaker 1: so if you do it, so it's just it's neat
Speaker 1: being at a national Open, whether it's a British Open
Speaker 1: or US Open. And I thank Ryan for getting us
Speaker 1: back in touch with the dream machine part of it,
Speaker 1: inside a machine, just the dream of it all. That's
Speaker 1: the end of the podcast right there. That was quite elegant.
Speaker 1: We can't top that. I have to know why. Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It's very awesome. Also, I have to
Speaker 1: know why you were thirteen Billy andreates playing career today.
Speaker 1: As we say in AUGUSTA appreciate you. We're supposed to
Speaker 1: thank power Point power points. Appreciate power points. Yeah, we appreciate,
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Did you get it all that up? No?
Speaker 1: Don't Yeah, don't edit that up? Fu fuck it, we'll
Speaker 1: do it live. We'll do it live. Jeff. Have you
Speaker 1: ever met Jeff? I'm sure you have. Bill of Paine
Speaker 1: pain pain. What do you call him when you see him?
Speaker 1: Came Paine? You called chairman? What do you call him?
Speaker 1: I bumped into him at the lounge at Lax Airport
Speaker 1: one day and said, I hate Billy, it's Jeff. How
Speaker 1: are you going? And I thought afterwards I regretted. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: when am I supposed to say? You missed the chairman anymore? No,
Speaker 1: you're not absolutely respectful. Yeah, but did you say why
Speaker 1: are you're not Why are you're not playing private? I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, you know a lot of bris. What's you said?
Speaker 1: We were comparing good, comparing states. Yeah, we was drinking
Speaker 1: nice wine, I guess in the lounge. Yeah, he was great.
Speaker 1: Who'd you who'd you play with? That cypress point? That
Speaker 1: day at the nineteen US Open, I played with Steve Jones,
Speaker 1: who's fantastic? Um, well, Cambo huh and someone else. It
Speaker 1: was a bit of a shame. The best part about
Speaker 1: that day was sitting on the first tea and you
Speaker 1: said you were there so you might remember this, but no,
Speaker 1: it was maybe Jack and Jack and Tom and that
Speaker 1: like hitting off Watson hitting off the first day and
Speaker 1: Trevino was chirping him. Yeah, just didn't shut up, and
Speaker 1: it was like forty years ago and Trevino is just
Speaker 1: flapping off on the tea, just getting into Watson and
Speaker 1: Nicholas and all that. On the first day, it was
Speaker 1: just like, this is just the best thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I've got to just sat there all day and listen
Speaker 1: to Trevino sort of give Nicholas and Tom Watson ship.
Speaker 1: It was fantastic, just the best. That was great. Steve
Speaker 1: Jones said a funky grip, didn't he Yeah, very yeah
Speaker 1: he didn't. He have a finger accident or something. He
Speaker 1: had overlapped it right, the porn of finger on his
Speaker 1: left hand or something. Yeah, we need to Oh sorry, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I apologize. We need to think Part Points. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we're trying to make art here and all
Speaker 1: you care about is the commerce. Yeah, I apologize, Jedi.
Speaker 1: Thank I cut off a Steve Jones finger broken story.
Speaker 1: But we do need to thank Part Points. A great app.
Speaker 1: Should download it a new way to score. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's great for the whole family. If
Speaker 1: you take out different skill levels and all sorts of things,
Speaker 1: it's really cool download part points. All right, fabulous. Well
Speaker 1: we're not going to end the podcasts seven minutes after
Speaker 1: I tried to end it, but that was fun. I
Speaker 1: like the digressions. There's been another fire drill. It's Friday
Speaker 1: at the US. Wouldn't we do this again the next
Speaker 1: couple of rounds? And thanks for listening. Everything we do
Speaker 1: we do for you the listener. Not to be pretentious,
Speaker 1: but we wouldn't exist without all you guys, So thanks
Speaker 1: for tuning in. Jeff, thanks for coming all the way
Speaker 1: from Melbourne. For Michael Bamberger, Ryan French, I'm Alan SHIPNUK
Speaker 1: and we're back at it tomorrow. Thanks put another log
Speaker 1: on the fire nobody hears. Get the time