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Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Mattcastle is a

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Speaker 1: production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: We got lost, Just say.

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Speaker 3: We got lost.

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Speaker 4: Just say.

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Speaker 5: We're better here and we hope you say because.

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Speaker 3: We got lost, Just say, yeah, we got lost.

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Speaker 4: Just say.

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Speaker 2: Now, here's Bobby in.

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Speaker 3: That Welcome to the show. That's Matt Castle. I'm Bobby.

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Speaker 3: We're so happy we had actual football games.

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Speaker 6: By the way, before we get to the NFL slate,

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Speaker 6: how was a Week number two of the college Week?

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Speaker 2: Number two was great? I mean we went up to

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Speaker 2: Michigan State. We were playing Boston College. Got to see

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Speaker 2: my old coach, Billy O'Brien, got to do when he

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Speaker 3: I got to interview him, give him a big hug.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: That was a nice moment. But then the game turned

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Speaker 2: out to be an incredible game. When double overtime Michigan

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Speaker 2: State ended. But that's what you love about college football

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Speaker 2: because you just never know what's going to take place.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think i'd like Bill o bri I do.

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Speaker 3: I had him. He was on the show last year,

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Speaker 3: so I spent half an hour with him. That's a

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Speaker 2: Awesome guy. Great personality, fantastic laugh too, Like I guess

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Speaker 2: I wasn't that funny to him? No, you never got

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Speaker 2: laugh Well, we were talking ball. Who knows what you're

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Speaker 2: talking about. We were talking ball like at the Fighting

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Speaker 2: Buttchen two. That really brings it home. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: hell of a coach. We have a special relationship because

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Speaker 2: wide receivers coach, so there's a different dynamic there than

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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time and obviously early on I

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Speaker 3: Then he'd yell at me. It was hilarious, but we

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Speaker 3: had a good time doing it. Yeah, I wouldn't make

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Speaker 6: I don't think you're a large hilarious all right. Now,

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Speaker 6: we're going to go back and forth as we often do,

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Speaker 6: let's go for threes. I'm still trying to come out

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Speaker 6: with the name three three things.

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Speaker 3: Is this from last week? Looking ahead? What we're going

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Speaker 3: moving forward. We're doing like I do my three, you

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Speaker 3: do your three, my three year three ago. But I

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Speaker 3: thirty three doesn't matter. Three for three, you go up,

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Speaker 3: You're number one? Okay?

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Speaker 2: I think number one for me looking ahead is are

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Speaker 2: And it's unbelievable that we're in week two and they're

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Speaker 2: And I know that Russell Wilson struggled, but why not

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Speaker 6: You know how I know Russell Wilson really struggled is

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Speaker 3: And not only that, he wouldn't even high five day ball.

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Speaker 2: Do you see that interaction and Dave All's trying to

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Speaker 2: think that's exactly it.

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Speaker 3: So two things.

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Speaker 6: When you talk about the Giants, I think Dable's probably

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Speaker 6: going this could be it for me. Right, I've had

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Speaker 6: We could go through the last few years with the Giants.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he didn't have his own quarterback when he

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Speaker 6: And as fair as that may not be, because I

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Speaker 6: You probably want to play him have some success, even

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Speaker 2: Now, I agree. And you've got also a defense with

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Speaker 2: a pretty good offensive line. But for him, he's got

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Speaker 2: to win now, and like, you can't let this thing

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Speaker 2: I think you hit the nail on the head when

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Speaker 2: and there's not a lot of promise, I mean, you

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Speaker 6: I think with Jackson Dard as well, or any rookie

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Speaker 6: If you do it now, that way, when you get

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Speaker 3: It could be Pa the rescue. Like last year. By

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Speaker 3: the way they sucked Week one.

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Speaker 2: They're awful. That might change your mind. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but with the Giants, I feel like for him

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Speaker 3: They can switch to Jackson Dark and the quicker.

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Speaker 6: They can have success because they're not going to be

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Speaker 6: But if in that second half they can go over

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Speaker 6: five to three, right, I think that's enough to give

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Speaker 2: Of course, and it's Week one right now, But people

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Speaker 3: It's just the nature of the beast. As he learns

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Speaker 2: He's got good guys behind him with Jamis Winston, Russell

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Speaker 2: The back half of the season is where you want

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Speaker 3: Wow, look at the development that we've had.

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Speaker 6: So I'm going to take years on a rollover to mind.

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Speaker 6: The Cowboys and Giants are playing this week. Yes, Cowboys

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Speaker 6: look pretty good. Hell yeah, they look good. The Cowboys

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna win thirteen games this season

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Speaker 6: But the Cowboys, especially Dak look great. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: They should win.

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Speaker 6: Every part of them should win this game, especially because

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Speaker 3: Is it Russell Wilson. It's not going to be for long.

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Speaker 3: This is classic. Okay. We feel good about the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: This is their week to.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing that they have to guard themselves

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Speaker 2: But where's that take them? They're basically thrown away the season,

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Speaker 2: yes they lost the game, but that was a competitive

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Speaker 3: And that's really what they need to do.

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Speaker 2: If they go out and crap the bed this week

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Speaker 3: And it's in Dallas, and it's in Dallas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not a Cowboys fan, but I'm hoping. I

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Speaker 6: like to see a team that's told, hey, now that

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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent that underdog kind of you're idiots

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Speaker 2: and then go out and prove everybody wrong.

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Speaker 3: Lamb did not have He had a good game stat wise,

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Speaker 2: He missed some opportunities. It's three drop balls. One of

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Speaker 3: Pivotal.

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Speaker 6: Uh, did you ever a wide receiver that was awesome

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Speaker 6: then you but we're like, what do you do?

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Speaker 3: As a quarterback?

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Speaker 2: It's such a hard thing because you know when you

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Speaker 2: otherwise he wouldn't be where he is. And those things happen, right,

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Speaker 2: they happen, and sometimes it costs you the game. And

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Speaker 2: it's just the same thing is if I'm a quarterback

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Speaker 2: and you're driving late, you miss a throw, you throw

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Speaker 2: going to come back work harder to do all that,

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Speaker 2: So it's hard to go up and be like, dude,

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Speaker 2: you got to get that he understands it. You don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what one hundred and forty total yards or something

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Speaker 6: Offensively, he well, Borrow specifically was fourteen for twenty three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're always awful, yeah week one or week two,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so my bounce backs are Burrow needs one. Now

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Speaker 3: They have just watching it, and then he goes down

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Speaker 3: It was terrible. It was bad.

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Speaker 3: That's why he's not a captain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's something that's going to be continuous

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Speaker 3: Because that was awful. But how awesome was Daniel Jones?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he can run. He is athletic as all get out.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think week one is the absolute let

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Speaker 3: No good name him comeback player in the year right now.

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Speaker 3: But how Yeah, he was awesome too? Was not?

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Speaker 6: He went fourteen for twenty three as well, for one

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Speaker 6: Now they're playing the Patriots. Patriots, not a great game, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: I don't think they have that dude right now, and

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Speaker 5: And then what about the run I mean, the run

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Speaker 3: Non existent, which was the most surprising.

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Speaker 5: And Will Campbell had a bad game.

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Speaker 5: Hurt, Yeah, and I get out. I'm not blaming him,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it's still week one, you know, and

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Speaker 2: way that he did. I think that the Raiders are

438
00:18:54,215 --> 00:18:55,815
Speaker 2: going to be a lot better than people give them

439
00:18:55,816 --> 00:18:56,176
Speaker 2: credit for.

440
00:18:56,576 --> 00:18:57,815
Speaker 3: So I know we've done too.

441
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go do my third one before you do

442
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Speaker 6: your third one, because I want to roll up from

443
00:19:00,616 --> 00:19:02,976
Speaker 6: this conversation to that and that. Brock Bauers, I don't

444
00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:05,696
Speaker 6: know where he is injured in George Kettle out for

445
00:19:05,776 --> 00:19:06,376
Speaker 6: weeks now.

446
00:19:06,416 --> 00:19:09,016
Speaker 2: I was going to say, those are two massive injuries.

447
00:19:09,096 --> 00:19:10,416
Speaker 2: What's the latest on Boers?

448
00:19:10,455 --> 00:19:13,536
Speaker 6: Because the last I saw, they were speculating it might

449
00:19:13,576 --> 00:19:15,735
Speaker 6: be an ACL, it might be nothing.

450
00:19:16,016 --> 00:19:18,096
Speaker 3: Do you see anything Kevin on brock Bauers, No, I.

451
00:19:18,016 --> 00:19:19,936
Speaker 5: Just see Carol saying and we're just going day to.

452
00:19:19,896 --> 00:19:23,176
Speaker 3: Day with it. Yeah, well Kittle is out, Yeah, Kittle, Yeah,

453
00:19:23,455 --> 00:19:26,056
Speaker 3: are now? Yeah? That's Goyah. It sucks too.

454
00:19:26,296 --> 00:19:29,575
Speaker 6: Kittle's on ire with a hamstring injury. He suffered a

455
00:19:29,576 --> 00:19:32,616
Speaker 6: hamstring injury during Sunday season opener over the Seahawks. He

456
00:19:32,696 --> 00:19:35,336
Speaker 6: only played twenty one of the seventy six offensive snaps.

457
00:19:35,536 --> 00:19:37,856
Speaker 6: He caught four balls for twenty five yards, and he

458
00:19:37,896 --> 00:19:40,296
Speaker 6: will be sidelined for at least the next four weeks.

459
00:19:40,336 --> 00:19:42,056
Speaker 3: Now, the good news is this is.

460
00:19:41,975 --> 00:19:45,095
Speaker 6: The forty nine Ers next four weeks, the Saints they

461
00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:50,576
Speaker 6: can win that, the Cardinals, probably, the Jags, probably the Rams.

462
00:19:50,416 --> 00:19:51,416
Speaker 3: Are going to be a bit of trouble.

463
00:19:51,616 --> 00:19:54,696
Speaker 6: Yeah, Rams, but I think and also you're looking at

464
00:19:55,376 --> 00:19:55,896
Speaker 6: rock Party.

465
00:19:56,336 --> 00:19:58,736
Speaker 2: I mean he has two injuries. He has two injuries.

466
00:19:58,735 --> 00:20:01,576
Speaker 2: They said Fred Warner was banged up. They also said

467
00:20:02,495 --> 00:20:06,176
Speaker 2: Trent Williams was banged up. That's a red amount of

468
00:20:06,256 --> 00:20:08,096
Speaker 2: injuries that take place in Week one.

469
00:20:08,296 --> 00:20:10,535
Speaker 6: It's also like last year for them, right, they had

470
00:20:10,536 --> 00:20:12,535
Speaker 6: all the last year, everybody was hurt. I think the

471
00:20:12,576 --> 00:20:14,616
Speaker 6: good thing about pretty shoulder injury, it's the wrong shoulder,

472
00:20:15,296 --> 00:20:17,376
Speaker 6: because I think his left shoulder is what's hurt.

473
00:20:17,856 --> 00:20:20,336
Speaker 3: It was the other It was this other injury that

474
00:20:20,336 --> 00:20:21,056
Speaker 3: they were worried about.

475
00:20:21,696 --> 00:20:24,255
Speaker 6: So yeah, the forty nine ers moving forward, they have

476
00:20:24,256 --> 00:20:26,896
Speaker 6: a favorable schedule if they can, if.

477
00:20:26,816 --> 00:20:27,776
Speaker 3: They can feel the team.

478
00:20:27,856 --> 00:20:30,616
Speaker 2: Well, they only because Christian McCaffery was on the injury report,

479
00:20:30,696 --> 00:20:32,216
Speaker 2: they're saying that he might not even go.

480
00:20:32,616 --> 00:20:34,656
Speaker 3: Luckily he did. He played really well.

481
00:20:34,656 --> 00:20:36,336
Speaker 6: He played, caught a bunch of balls, ran a bunch

482
00:20:36,336 --> 00:20:38,096
Speaker 6: of ball. Yeah, they only need eight guys to beat

483
00:20:38,096 --> 00:20:42,336
Speaker 6: the Saints, So give it another week. Cardinals, they could

484
00:20:42,336 --> 00:20:44,936
Speaker 6: probably play ten on eleven to win that Cardinals is

485
00:20:44,975 --> 00:20:46,536
Speaker 6: a better, better football team this year?

486
00:20:47,376 --> 00:20:54,495
Speaker 3: Maybe? Huh maybe what who'd they beat the Saints?

487
00:20:55,455 --> 00:20:55,656
Speaker 7: Yeah?

488
00:20:55,656 --> 00:21:00,255
Speaker 3: Maybe barely? That's maybe. That's why I said maybe this week,

489
00:21:00,576 --> 00:21:03,096
Speaker 3: let's see we got the Cardinals.

490
00:21:03,576 --> 00:21:06,696
Speaker 6: Who are the Cardinals playing? And the Panthers? Yeah, Cardinals

491
00:21:06,735 --> 00:21:09,975
Speaker 6: joined that one the four Panthers. I picked him my

492
00:21:10,016 --> 00:21:11,735
Speaker 6: favorite team, and then that's what they do. Of course,

493
00:21:12,376 --> 00:21:14,176
Speaker 6: of course that's what they do. But it is going

494
00:21:14,215 --> 00:21:16,575
Speaker 6: to be the battle the small quarterbacks. One quarterback will

495
00:21:16,576 --> 00:21:21,896
Speaker 6: reign supreme, the battle of the small quarterbacks. Very athletic. Yes,

496
00:21:22,616 --> 00:21:23,576
Speaker 6: what's your final point?

497
00:21:24,816 --> 00:21:27,336
Speaker 2: I think this week and another intriguing game for me

498
00:21:27,455 --> 00:21:30,255
Speaker 2: is going to be Bill's Jets because when you watch

499
00:21:30,296 --> 00:21:33,055
Speaker 2: that game the Justin Field's played, he looked like a

500
00:21:33,056 --> 00:21:36,696
Speaker 2: completely different quarterback going up against Pittsburgh, and you can

501
00:21:36,735 --> 00:21:41,096
Speaker 2: say the same thing about how Pittsburgh looked, but for

502
00:21:41,215 --> 00:21:44,176
Speaker 2: that organization for them to come out and play that

503
00:21:44,256 --> 00:21:48,496
Speaker 2: way right right away against the Pittsburgh Steelers defense, and

504
00:21:48,536 --> 00:21:50,815
Speaker 2: he was making throws, He's doing it with his legs.

505
00:21:51,735 --> 00:21:52,975
Speaker 2: I just want to see if he can do it

506
00:21:53,016 --> 00:21:56,736
Speaker 2: again against another really good opponent with the Bills what's.

507
00:21:56,576 --> 00:22:01,535
Speaker 6: The best game coming up this weekend? M Seahawks and

508
00:22:01,576 --> 00:22:05,495
Speaker 6: Steelers looks interesting. Nobody cares about those teams here, Like

509
00:22:05,536 --> 00:22:07,576
Speaker 6: it's nobody's Brandon's wife, that of account.

510
00:22:07,616 --> 00:22:11,295
Speaker 3: She's like secondary. So you know, we're always drawn to

511
00:22:11,376 --> 00:22:12,816
Speaker 3: like our teams.

512
00:22:13,056 --> 00:22:16,096
Speaker 6: But I'm curious to watch the Seahawks and Steelers play

513
00:22:16,256 --> 00:22:19,936
Speaker 6: just because they both had Seahawks did not win, right,

514
00:22:20,656 --> 00:22:22,056
Speaker 6: But I feel like that's a little bit of work

515
00:22:22,056 --> 00:22:24,016
Speaker 6: in progress. There's a whole lot of new parts up there,

516
00:22:24,056 --> 00:22:26,696
Speaker 6: whole lot of new parts. And how good is Aaron

517
00:22:26,776 --> 00:22:30,016
Speaker 6: Rodgers because his arm is still freaking great that first sack.

518
00:22:30,096 --> 00:22:31,856
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, they're about to run him over.

519
00:22:31,896 --> 00:22:33,536
Speaker 3: He can't move. He got hit a lot, He did

520
00:22:33,576 --> 00:22:34,096
Speaker 3: get a lot.

521
00:22:34,296 --> 00:22:35,575
Speaker 2: He got hit a lot. But I'll tell you what,

522
00:22:35,776 --> 00:22:39,855
Speaker 2: the boy can still playing it. I guess it's Commander's Packers.

523
00:22:40,136 --> 00:22:42,816
Speaker 2: That's probably the best. I was gonna say, Commander's Packers

524
00:22:42,896 --> 00:22:45,656
Speaker 2: would be up there, and I must watch for me.

525
00:22:45,816 --> 00:22:47,495
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Thursday night, so we must watch it.

526
00:22:47,616 --> 00:22:49,856
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Packers, I mean, let's be honest, that

527
00:22:49,896 --> 00:22:54,376
Speaker 2: Packers defense. That front looked good before Parsons showed up.

528
00:22:54,776 --> 00:22:57,616
Speaker 2: But he shows up, they can go offensively. They've got

529
00:22:57,616 --> 00:23:01,376
Speaker 2: some skill. Jordan Love. I mean he's a good, really

530
00:23:01,376 --> 00:23:04,656
Speaker 2: good quarterback in my opinion. So then you got Washington.

531
00:23:04,696 --> 00:23:07,055
Speaker 2: When you watch them, they got weapons all over the field.

532
00:23:07,336 --> 00:23:09,775
Speaker 2: Jadan Daniels. That guy's a freak of nature.

533
00:23:09,936 --> 00:23:11,776
Speaker 6: He's a freaky looks like they get broken every time

534
00:23:11,776 --> 00:23:14,096
Speaker 6: he drops back because he's small, he doesn't he make

535
00:23:14,215 --> 00:23:15,056
Speaker 6: Kevin Durant and.

536
00:23:15,016 --> 00:23:17,055
Speaker 2: Then he makes everybody mess when he runs the football.

537
00:23:17,096 --> 00:23:19,856
Speaker 2: If he can just splat out rip the ball anywhere

538
00:23:19,856 --> 00:23:20,215
Speaker 2: he wants.

539
00:23:20,376 --> 00:23:24,256
Speaker 3: Yeah, he runs around people with with it's like a deer.

540
00:23:24,975 --> 00:23:30,176
Speaker 3: He is deceivingly extremely fast, extremely fast, because I know

541
00:23:30,256 --> 00:23:32,896
Speaker 3: he's fast. But I was watching him outrun angles this

542
00:23:33,016 --> 00:23:34,296
Speaker 3: last week and Devo looks good.

543
00:23:34,416 --> 00:23:36,616
Speaker 2: Devo, you saw him of the he looked like he maybe,

544
00:23:36,735 --> 00:23:39,496
Speaker 2: you know, maybe put on a yeah box.

545
00:23:39,735 --> 00:23:43,215
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe knows.

546
00:23:43,376 --> 00:23:43,576
Speaker 4: Yeah.

547
00:23:43,696 --> 00:23:46,015
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got rid pads on, hip pads on. But

548
00:23:46,056 --> 00:23:47,816
Speaker 2: I'll tell you he can still run the rock.

549
00:23:48,256 --> 00:23:50,055
Speaker 6: You want to know something happened to me so I

550
00:23:50,096 --> 00:23:52,096
Speaker 6: was talking about this on the show today on the

551
00:23:52,136 --> 00:23:55,656
Speaker 6: Bobby Bone Show, is that I got a call from

552
00:23:55,696 --> 00:23:57,896
Speaker 6: someone and it was a San Diego number, and I

553
00:23:57,896 --> 00:24:00,256
Speaker 6: answered They're like, hey, h so mu's trying to buy

554
00:24:01,056 --> 00:24:03,616
Speaker 6: four different purchases at home depot for fifty five hundred

555
00:24:03,616 --> 00:24:06,576
Speaker 6: dollars this year. It wasn't and so I'm like, oh god, Well,

556
00:24:06,576 --> 00:24:08,576
Speaker 6: the night before my card had to be canceled because

557
00:24:08,616 --> 00:24:11,296
Speaker 6: someone was using my debit card. And so the night

558
00:24:11,336 --> 00:24:13,575
Speaker 6: before I got an email and I said, is this

559
00:24:13,656 --> 00:24:15,815
Speaker 6: you using the card? And I pushed no, boom. We

560
00:24:15,856 --> 00:24:17,696
Speaker 6: canceled the card immediately. So I get that call the

561
00:24:17,735 --> 00:24:19,416
Speaker 6: next day and they're like, someone's trying to buy four

562
00:24:19,455 --> 00:24:21,016
Speaker 6: things at home depot. It's not going through.

563
00:24:21,336 --> 00:24:21,816
Speaker 3: Is this you?

564
00:24:22,016 --> 00:24:24,735
Speaker 6: I'm like no, except they know a little too much,

565
00:24:25,256 --> 00:24:28,336
Speaker 6: meaning they know my bank, they know the type of

566
00:24:28,336 --> 00:24:31,775
Speaker 6: card it is, they know my home address, they know

567
00:24:31,856 --> 00:24:34,535
Speaker 6: my cell phone number, and they have my card number,

568
00:24:34,856 --> 00:24:36,896
Speaker 6: and so they're like, hey, we'll call on from your bank.

569
00:24:37,576 --> 00:24:39,136
Speaker 6: All of that is enough to make you think that

570
00:24:39,176 --> 00:24:42,336
Speaker 6: it's legit, and so I'm like yep, and they say, hey,

571
00:24:42,336 --> 00:24:44,215
Speaker 6: we need to verify that this is your account, so

572
00:24:44,215 --> 00:24:48,095
Speaker 6: we're gonna FaceTime you and are you able to get

573
00:24:48,136 --> 00:24:49,656
Speaker 6: into your account on your app? Let us know me,

574
00:24:49,816 --> 00:24:52,696
Speaker 6: you know, So they FaceTime me I'm half asleep because

575
00:24:52,735 --> 00:24:55,456
Speaker 6: I had fallen asleep at like three point thirty. Wasn't

576
00:24:55,455 --> 00:24:57,616
Speaker 6: feeling grab My allergies are killing me. So I answer

577
00:24:57,696 --> 00:24:59,055
Speaker 6: the FaceTime and they're like, feel just.

578
00:24:59,016 --> 00:25:00,776
Speaker 3: A log on your app. And I'm like there's no way.

579
00:25:01,056 --> 00:25:04,896
Speaker 3: And I say to them, you're trying to scam me, yeah,

580
00:25:04,936 --> 00:25:06,616
Speaker 3: and there they're like no, so we're not trying to

581
00:25:06,616 --> 00:25:08,696
Speaker 3: scam me. And I'm like, yeah, you're trying to scam me.

582
00:25:08,735 --> 00:25:10,735
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do this and he gets like

583
00:25:10,816 --> 00:25:13,455
Speaker 3: sassy with me, and so all of this has been

584
00:25:13,495 --> 00:25:14,896
Speaker 3: running through my head. I'm like, how did they know

585
00:25:15,376 --> 00:25:17,896
Speaker 3: my phone number, my home address? Because if you just

586
00:25:17,975 --> 00:25:21,735
Speaker 3: get a credit card number or a debit card number,

587
00:25:21,776 --> 00:25:24,215
Speaker 3: you don't have all the other information. Just use that

588
00:25:24,256 --> 00:25:25,856
Speaker 3: and you have to use the CVV code and you

589
00:25:25,856 --> 00:25:27,016
Speaker 3: buy until they shut it down.

590
00:25:27,856 --> 00:25:31,055
Speaker 6: So I just found out what happened. So I went

591
00:25:31,136 --> 00:25:33,855
Speaker 6: to buy something online that I buy a lot of

592
00:25:33,896 --> 00:25:37,896
Speaker 6: and I googled to get to it Razors something similar

593
00:25:38,176 --> 00:25:40,215
Speaker 6: something that I have to buy it, and so it

594
00:25:40,256 --> 00:25:41,775
Speaker 6: was a new product and I googled and so I

595
00:25:41,776 --> 00:25:42,735
Speaker 6: went to the site and I bought it, and I

596
00:25:42,776 --> 00:25:45,096
Speaker 6: remember not going through not going through not going through.

597
00:25:45,576 --> 00:25:48,096
Speaker 6: Turns out they had set up a full fake site

598
00:25:48,336 --> 00:25:50,936
Speaker 6: and so the reason it wasn't going through is when

599
00:25:50,936 --> 00:25:54,456
Speaker 6: you type in your name, your address, your credit card,

600
00:25:54,735 --> 00:25:56,656
Speaker 6: it goes to scammers who have set up a fake

601
00:25:56,735 --> 00:25:59,855
Speaker 6: site to like mimic what the actual site looks like.

602
00:26:01,096 --> 00:26:04,936
Speaker 6: So they had all that information, which is crazy. All

603
00:26:05,016 --> 00:26:06,215
Speaker 6: day long, in my head, I'm like, how do they

604
00:26:06,256 --> 00:26:09,336
Speaker 6: know my home address? Turns out they didn't know my

605
00:26:09,336 --> 00:26:11,696
Speaker 6: home address. They knew my business manager's address because that's

606
00:26:11,696 --> 00:26:13,456
Speaker 6: all my bills go, right, But they were like, you're

607
00:26:13,455 --> 00:26:15,535
Speaker 6: at this address and I was like, well they do

608
00:26:15,656 --> 00:26:17,336
Speaker 6: know that, so my bank does.

609
00:26:17,735 --> 00:26:19,496
Speaker 3: But that's what it was. They set up a complete

610
00:26:20,016 --> 00:26:21,255
Speaker 3: fake website.

611
00:26:21,416 --> 00:26:24,856
Speaker 6: Wow, it looked exactly and seemed exactly like the other

612
00:26:24,896 --> 00:26:27,855
Speaker 6: side that I got there from Google. That's really scary.

613
00:26:27,936 --> 00:26:31,215
Speaker 6: It was crazy, and that's what I was doing with today.

614
00:26:31,735 --> 00:26:34,696
Speaker 3: Well, at least you didn't give them all your information,

615
00:26:34,776 --> 00:26:36,575
Speaker 3: because that would have been well, you know what they

616
00:26:36,616 --> 00:26:37,936
Speaker 3: did they did. They said how much is in your

617
00:26:37,975 --> 00:26:38,616
Speaker 3: checking account?

618
00:26:39,336 --> 00:26:42,255
Speaker 6: And I told them and then they were like, okay,

619
00:26:42,495 --> 00:26:43,536
Speaker 6: this also could be your savings.

620
00:26:43,576 --> 00:26:46,096
Speaker 3: How much in your savings? And I told them and they're.

621
00:26:45,816 --> 00:26:49,176
Speaker 8: Like, Wow, we've got it, Ellison, we got it on

622
00:26:50,016 --> 00:26:53,575
Speaker 8: oh boys like face time now Facetimeum, now, I know

623
00:26:53,776 --> 00:26:56,576
Speaker 8: we'll get way more than fifty five hundred from home depot.

624
00:26:57,096 --> 00:26:58,856
Speaker 3: But that was that was scary. I was like, how

625
00:26:58,856 --> 00:26:59,615
Speaker 3: do they know all this?

626
00:27:00,096 --> 00:27:03,016
Speaker 6: But it turns out that they created the fake account,

627
00:27:03,096 --> 00:27:04,576
Speaker 6: a fake website to look like the site.

628
00:27:04,816 --> 00:27:08,616
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't normally get the phone call from American Express.

629
00:27:09,096 --> 00:27:11,696
Speaker 2: I do, so American Express I do, but all the

630
00:27:11,735 --> 00:27:14,376
Speaker 2: other stuff is going to my business managers.

631
00:27:14,816 --> 00:27:16,376
Speaker 6: I was like, I did have to cancel my card

632
00:27:16,416 --> 00:27:18,535
Speaker 6: last night, so it makes sense. But it makes sense

633
00:27:18,576 --> 00:27:20,575
Speaker 6: because they were using it last night and then they

634
00:27:20,576 --> 00:27:21,496
Speaker 6: were calling.

635
00:27:21,495 --> 00:27:23,455
Speaker 3: Yeah to verify, Hey how much you have? You should

636
00:27:23,455 --> 00:27:24,096
Speaker 3: have been scammed?

637
00:27:24,176 --> 00:27:28,536
Speaker 2: Huh No, I've just had well I've had similar situations.

638
00:27:28,576 --> 00:27:31,535
Speaker 2: I get a lot of text messages like there's this

639
00:27:31,616 --> 00:27:34,775
Speaker 2: amount on this credit card, please call so wee can

640
00:27:34,856 --> 00:27:36,936
Speaker 2: and now, and I'd call my business guy and I

641
00:27:36,975 --> 00:27:40,376
Speaker 2: would say this spamming's like absolutely, I just checked all

642
00:27:40,416 --> 00:27:43,256
Speaker 2: your accounts, nothing's wrong anything like that. But you will

643
00:27:43,296 --> 00:27:45,455
Speaker 2: every now and then they'll get a hold somehow of

644
00:27:45,495 --> 00:27:48,656
Speaker 2: your credit card and you'll have these random purchases I

645
00:27:48,696 --> 00:27:49,776
Speaker 2: forget the last one.

646
00:27:50,696 --> 00:27:54,096
Speaker 3: It was. It was like a twenty six hundred dollars

647
00:27:54,416 --> 00:27:57,295
Speaker 3: neal at target. They went hard, They went hard in

648
00:27:57,336 --> 00:28:01,815
Speaker 3: the paint. They so hard. Yeah, grab the skateboard. They

649
00:28:02,016 --> 00:28:05,816
Speaker 3: from the jump, they went hard. Haven't you ever been scammed? No?

650
00:28:05,856 --> 00:28:07,576
Speaker 5: I haven't, But it's funny you bring this up, because

651
00:28:08,176 --> 00:28:09,816
Speaker 5: I think we're in the middle of one right now too.

652
00:28:09,975 --> 00:28:12,736
Speaker 5: My wife got a letter in the mail from her work.

653
00:28:12,776 --> 00:28:14,856
Speaker 5: She stopped working because the kids let her in the

654
00:28:14,896 --> 00:28:17,736
Speaker 5: mail from their work that's like, hey, sorry, we accidentally

655
00:28:17,816 --> 00:28:22,016
Speaker 5: paid you like twelve grand over which happens because they

656
00:28:22,016 --> 00:28:24,256
Speaker 5: try to figure things out. And then so she was like, well,

657
00:28:24,256 --> 00:28:26,056
Speaker 5: can you provide evidence? They've been going back and forth,

658
00:28:26,096 --> 00:28:28,856
Speaker 5: and ever since she asked can you provide evidence, we

659
00:28:28,896 --> 00:28:31,535
Speaker 5: haven't her backphone because they asked it you need to

660
00:28:31,536 --> 00:28:32,775
Speaker 5: pay this within five days.

661
00:28:33,975 --> 00:28:36,136
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna Why would they do that.

662
00:28:36,136 --> 00:28:37,696
Speaker 5: Twelve grand and five days?

663
00:28:38,616 --> 00:28:39,736
Speaker 3: I spent that vague?

664
00:28:39,896 --> 00:28:41,736
Speaker 5: That sounds like a scam, right, that's a scam. And

665
00:28:41,776 --> 00:28:43,816
Speaker 5: then she was like, oh, well, can you what about

666
00:28:43,816 --> 00:28:45,815
Speaker 5: this my pto? Did you guys put all this in?

667
00:28:45,856 --> 00:28:48,096
Speaker 5: And they're like, oh, actually, it's like nine grand and

668
00:28:48,136 --> 00:28:50,216
Speaker 5: She's like, well, can you show me evidence of where

669
00:28:50,216 --> 00:28:52,176
Speaker 5: you got the nine grand from having her back?

670
00:28:53,136 --> 00:28:53,336
Speaker 3: Yeah?

671
00:28:53,576 --> 00:28:57,936
Speaker 6: Scam, scam Brandon, Oh, Brandon's been scammed. Brandon proudly has

672
00:28:57,936 --> 00:28:58,456
Speaker 6: been scammed.

673
00:28:58,616 --> 00:29:00,336
Speaker 3: Well you saw it. It was right away. It was

674
00:29:00,336 --> 00:29:00,976
Speaker 3: a heavy nod.

675
00:29:01,256 --> 00:29:01,416
Speaker 4: Yeah.

676
00:29:01,856 --> 00:29:04,296
Speaker 3: And then he's like, thank god. Yeah, don't really want

677
00:29:04,336 --> 00:29:05,336
Speaker 3: to tell you what I gave away.

678
00:29:05,856 --> 00:29:08,776
Speaker 6: Uh, we're gonna come back, all right, Your buddy's gonna

679
00:29:08,776 --> 00:29:09,096
Speaker 6: come in.

680
00:29:09,456 --> 00:29:11,576
Speaker 3: Yeah. Benny Jones one of my favorite people. Have you

681
00:29:11,776 --> 00:29:12,656
Speaker 3: have played together?

682
00:29:12,776 --> 00:29:18,656
Speaker 2: We did a Tennessee funny game, really funny speculate. I mean,

683
00:29:18,736 --> 00:29:21,616
Speaker 2: he's got to be six three three. He probably played

684
00:29:21,616 --> 00:29:23,976
Speaker 2: at three point fifteen. I think that was what his

685
00:29:24,016 --> 00:29:26,016
Speaker 2: weight was set at. But as soon as he would

686
00:29:26,016 --> 00:29:28,776
Speaker 2: starve himself the day before weigh in, so he'd make

687
00:29:28,816 --> 00:29:30,856
Speaker 2: weight and then he'd meet me in the breakfast area

688
00:29:30,856 --> 00:29:32,936
Speaker 2: and he'd have like four plates. So probably jump up

689
00:29:32,936 --> 00:29:34,296
Speaker 2: to three twenty pretty quick.

690
00:29:34,776 --> 00:29:36,736
Speaker 3: Big old boy. All right, old boy, we'll come back

691
00:29:36,736 --> 00:29:52,416
Speaker 3: and do that. Mat We got lots. We got lost.

692
00:29:56,096 --> 00:29:59,216
Speaker 7: What a better here? And we hope you said because

693
00:29:59,296 --> 00:30:01,016
Speaker 7: we got lost, just say.

694
00:30:02,816 --> 00:30:03,936
Speaker 3: Yeah we got lost.

695
00:30:04,296 --> 00:30:04,896
Speaker 5: Just say.

696
00:30:06,936 --> 00:30:08,256
Speaker 8: Here's that.

697
00:30:09,936 --> 00:30:14,056
Speaker 3: We actually had football? What an exciting week. Seriously. Yeah, yeah,

698
00:30:14,056 --> 00:30:16,575
Speaker 3: Football's back. It was an incredible week one. It was,

699
00:30:16,816 --> 00:30:18,736
Speaker 3: and we had Ben Jones was I thought we should

700
00:30:18,736 --> 00:30:22,176
Speaker 3: clap our hands, Big Ben Joes. Great, Big Ben Jones

701
00:30:22,856 --> 00:30:23,216
Speaker 3: is right.

702
00:30:23,376 --> 00:30:25,856
Speaker 6: Why don't you introduce your friend Ben here so everybody

703
00:30:25,856 --> 00:30:26,736
Speaker 6: can have a proper group.

704
00:30:26,936 --> 00:30:30,296
Speaker 2: Okay, Ben Jones one of my best buds. He's somebody

705
00:30:30,296 --> 00:30:32,416
Speaker 2: that grew up in Bibb County, Alabama.

706
00:30:32,576 --> 00:30:35,416
Speaker 3: Sounds like a wrestler, Yeah, it does, well. He he

707
00:30:35,456 --> 00:30:37,096
Speaker 3: kind of was a wrestler, Let's be honest.

708
00:30:38,136 --> 00:30:41,416
Speaker 2: When actually ended up going to Georgia, All American at Georgia,

709
00:30:41,536 --> 00:30:45,496
Speaker 2: gets drafted by Houston the fourth round, gets traded. What

710
00:30:45,576 --> 00:30:49,616
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, free agent, free agent two thousand, not

711
00:30:49,656 --> 00:30:52,456
Speaker 2: even a free agent twenty sixteen comes to Tennessee Titans.

712
00:30:52,496 --> 00:30:56,816
Speaker 2: I'm blessed to be there, be his teammate. He was

713
00:30:56,856 --> 00:30:59,296
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowler in twenty twenty two and a guy

714
00:30:59,336 --> 00:31:01,376
Speaker 2: that's just an iron man. Played through so many different

715
00:31:01,416 --> 00:31:03,696
Speaker 2: injuries but was the anchor for every offensive line. But

716
00:31:03,776 --> 00:31:06,536
Speaker 2: I'll also say this about him as a teammate and

717
00:31:06,616 --> 00:31:09,496
Speaker 2: as a human, he always made it fun. He was

718
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:12,616
Speaker 2: always there for everybody and he's the guy that brought

719
00:31:12,616 --> 00:31:13,496
Speaker 2: the locker room together.

720
00:31:13,576 --> 00:31:16,096
Speaker 3: So the great Ben Jones is here.

721
00:31:17,696 --> 00:31:19,616
Speaker 6: My wife saw Ben walk by the window and said,

722
00:31:19,616 --> 00:31:21,456
Speaker 6: a large man is here. I said, well, that's my

723
00:31:21,536 --> 00:31:22,575
Speaker 6: cue to go down to the studio.

724
00:31:23,336 --> 00:31:24,136
Speaker 3: Ben. How are you? Man?

725
00:31:24,336 --> 00:31:27,256
Speaker 4: I'm great, happy to be here. And my guy called

726
00:31:27,296 --> 00:31:28,976
Speaker 4: me the other day. I was like, absolutely, I'm here.

727
00:31:29,296 --> 00:31:32,616
Speaker 3: So what's it like when football starts for you?

728
00:31:33,416 --> 00:31:35,896
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, you look forward to it. It's different now

729
00:31:35,896 --> 00:31:38,136
Speaker 4: that you're not playing. I'm like, man, I can sit back,

730
00:31:38,656 --> 00:31:41,856
Speaker 4: enjoy it. Look at different schemes, Look at hey, how

731
00:31:41,936 --> 00:31:44,896
Speaker 4: they're attacking defenses. Because you still have that in you

732
00:31:44,936 --> 00:31:47,136
Speaker 4: as a player. But now you're like, man, I don't

733
00:31:47,136 --> 00:31:49,256
Speaker 4: feel bad after games. I don't hurt. I can wake

734
00:31:49,336 --> 00:31:51,056
Speaker 4: up the next day. I'm like, man, this feels awesome.

735
00:31:51,136 --> 00:31:52,216
Speaker 3: How many years you've been retired?

736
00:31:52,656 --> 00:31:54,456
Speaker 4: This is going on your three.

737
00:31:55,056 --> 00:31:57,656
Speaker 3: Are you missing it less and just enjoying it more?

738
00:31:57,536 --> 00:31:58,696
Speaker 3: Are you shifting over there?

739
00:31:58,816 --> 00:32:01,696
Speaker 4: One hundred percent? You definitely the first year out you

740
00:32:01,736 --> 00:32:04,736
Speaker 4: miss it. You miss everything, the hurt, the ache, the grind.

741
00:32:05,576 --> 00:32:07,656
Speaker 4: I'm just like I can enjoy it with my family.

742
00:32:08,016 --> 00:32:10,056
Speaker 4: I coached high school ball, so I kind of scratch

743
00:32:10,136 --> 00:32:13,336
Speaker 4: that itch that away, and now I can Thursday night,

744
00:32:13,576 --> 00:32:15,976
Speaker 4: Sunday night, Monday night, I can sit down and actually

745
00:32:15,976 --> 00:32:17,576
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, I can enjoy football.

746
00:32:17,696 --> 00:32:19,136
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about your first year out.

747
00:32:19,216 --> 00:32:19,335
Speaker 7: Right.

748
00:32:19,376 --> 00:32:21,176
Speaker 2: You were undecided whether or not you're going to go

749
00:32:21,216 --> 00:32:23,496
Speaker 2: back and play, and so you were staying in shape,

750
00:32:23,536 --> 00:32:25,216
Speaker 2: which is hard to do to stay motivated in the

751
00:32:25,256 --> 00:32:27,776
Speaker 2: off season when you don't know the end result is

752
00:32:27,816 --> 00:32:30,096
Speaker 2: actually going to be saying, but I remember sitting down

753
00:32:30,336 --> 00:32:32,815
Speaker 2: with you at breakfast right where Yeah, We're sitting down

754
00:32:32,856 --> 00:32:35,016
Speaker 2: at breakfast, and all of a sudden, Ben says, hold on,

755
00:32:35,056 --> 00:32:38,096
Speaker 2: this is my agent. His agent's calling him because Miami

756
00:32:38,496 --> 00:32:40,376
Speaker 2: had both of their centers go out.

757
00:32:40,536 --> 00:32:43,416
Speaker 4: So this is what weeks like right around Thanksgiving somewhere

758
00:32:43,456 --> 00:32:47,056
Speaker 4: around there, right, they happened versus the Titans center towards

759
00:32:47,056 --> 00:32:51,056
Speaker 4: aco first drive, the backup center popped his calf mid game.

760
00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:52,496
Speaker 4: They're like, hey, you want to come down this week.

761
00:32:52,536 --> 00:32:54,056
Speaker 4: I'm like, let me think on it.

762
00:32:54,256 --> 00:32:56,256
Speaker 6: So this is like, not at the beginning of your

763
00:32:56,256 --> 00:32:58,256
Speaker 6: first year out, this is in the middle of This.

764
00:32:58,216 --> 00:32:59,615
Speaker 4: Is the middle of my first year. So I've been

765
00:32:59,656 --> 00:33:02,496
Speaker 4: training that whole year after I've been out and I'm like,

766
00:33:02,496 --> 00:33:05,136
Speaker 4: all right, I'm golfing with Matt like once a week, workout,

767
00:33:05,136 --> 00:33:09,216
Speaker 4: three days a week. It has already started, oh like

768
00:33:09,256 --> 00:33:11,656
Speaker 4: week twelve, and so it was four games left.

769
00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:13,616
Speaker 2: There's four games left, So I all of a sudden

770
00:33:13,736 --> 00:33:15,256
Speaker 2: go on and look at.

771
00:33:15,256 --> 00:33:16,296
Speaker 3: Who they're about to play.

772
00:33:16,496 --> 00:33:21,736
Speaker 2: It was like Baltimore Ravens Dallas. I was like, bro,

773
00:33:21,976 --> 00:33:23,896
Speaker 2: I don't know if you better tell them to hike

774
00:33:23,976 --> 00:33:25,336
Speaker 2: up the money anymore.

775
00:33:25,616 --> 00:33:25,816
Speaker 8: Yeah.

776
00:33:25,856 --> 00:33:27,576
Speaker 3: I was sit there, going, you sure you want this?

777
00:33:27,616 --> 00:33:30,736
Speaker 2: And then having to also talk to your family like

778
00:33:30,776 --> 00:33:33,656
Speaker 2: it's a crazy circumstance and how this all comes about

779
00:33:33,696 --> 00:33:36,616
Speaker 2: because they obviously need you, but at the same time,

780
00:33:36,696 --> 00:33:38,656
Speaker 2: you have a family there that's getting used to having

781
00:33:38,696 --> 00:33:39,256
Speaker 2: you home.

782
00:33:39,176 --> 00:33:43,336
Speaker 3: Right, no doubt. What was that conversation? Like, honey, maybe I.

783
00:33:43,296 --> 00:33:45,616
Speaker 4: Was like, hey, I got a call from Miami today.

784
00:33:46,016 --> 00:33:50,776
Speaker 4: She's like she gets quiet you there, She's like, what

785
00:33:50,816 --> 00:33:53,976
Speaker 4: do I need to tell about Christmas? I'm like, hey,

786
00:33:54,136 --> 00:33:55,616
Speaker 4: it's gonna be all right, let's talk through it.

787
00:33:55,656 --> 00:33:57,815
Speaker 3: I haven't said one worst case already.

788
00:33:57,816 --> 00:34:00,056
Speaker 4: Oh yeah she was. When I called her, She's like, oh,

789
00:34:00,056 --> 00:34:00,576
Speaker 4: he's gone.

790
00:34:00,656 --> 00:34:01,335
Speaker 3: Is she crying?

791
00:34:01,576 --> 00:34:03,896
Speaker 4: Oh? Never, not my wife.

792
00:34:03,896 --> 00:34:05,335
Speaker 3: She is not a much at all.

793
00:34:06,216 --> 00:34:08,416
Speaker 4: She's just thinking through it and because that's the first thing,

794
00:34:08,456 --> 00:34:10,496
Speaker 4: she's trying to make sure everything works. That's what our

795
00:34:10,496 --> 00:34:14,096
Speaker 4: wives do. They literally do everything for us when we play.

796
00:34:14,416 --> 00:34:16,696
Speaker 4: From everything in the home life Bill's I'm talking about,

797
00:34:16,696 --> 00:34:18,896
Speaker 4: they run the show. And she was like, Oh, I'm

798
00:34:18,896 --> 00:34:20,416
Speaker 4: gonna have to go back in the grind mode. It

799
00:34:20,456 --> 00:34:22,496
Speaker 4: was fin to turn into camp for her, So she

800
00:34:22,536 --> 00:34:24,456
Speaker 4: had to get her mind right if I wanted to

801
00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:26,336
Speaker 4: take that next steps and take the job with the

802
00:34:26,416 --> 00:34:28,816
Speaker 4: Jets or not the Jets. That was pre season. Yeah,

803
00:34:28,816 --> 00:34:29,976
Speaker 4: it was Miami from Miami.

804
00:34:30,016 --> 00:34:31,776
Speaker 3: I would assume though it's pretty quick, you have to

805
00:34:31,776 --> 00:34:34,976
Speaker 3: give a yes or no, especially mid season, because they've

806
00:34:34,976 --> 00:34:36,776
Speaker 3: got to make a decision because they're only calling you

807
00:34:36,816 --> 00:34:39,536
Speaker 3: because it's quick. We got to find somebody to fill

808
00:34:39,536 --> 00:34:39,776
Speaker 3: a gap.

809
00:34:39,816 --> 00:34:42,896
Speaker 4: Yeah. They played Monday night and they called me Tuesday

810
00:34:42,936 --> 00:34:44,855
Speaker 4: morning while I was sitting in the country club eating

811
00:34:44,856 --> 00:34:47,056
Speaker 4: some breakfasts, about to go play around, and they wanted

812
00:34:47,056 --> 00:34:48,176
Speaker 4: me on a flight that evening.

813
00:34:48,456 --> 00:34:49,776
Speaker 3: And I'm assuming you said no.

814
00:34:49,976 --> 00:34:51,696
Speaker 4: I said no. I was like, as it came down

815
00:34:51,696 --> 00:34:53,736
Speaker 4: to it, I was like, Hey, what am I chasing?

816
00:34:53,736 --> 00:34:55,976
Speaker 4: Can I win a championship with this team. Is it

817
00:34:56,096 --> 00:34:58,696
Speaker 4: worth the risk to put my body through more harm?

818
00:34:58,776 --> 00:35:02,176
Speaker 4: I just had shoulder, elbow all fixed that off season.

819
00:35:02,216 --> 00:35:04,056
Speaker 4: I'm like, do I want to go back there and

820
00:35:04,336 --> 00:35:06,856
Speaker 4: risk that? And is it? What is it worth? Like?

821
00:35:07,616 --> 00:35:08,536
Speaker 4: Do I need the money?

822
00:35:08,616 --> 00:35:08,696
Speaker 8: No?

823
00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:10,616
Speaker 4: Do I want to go out there? If I'm sitting

824
00:35:10,616 --> 00:35:11,976
Speaker 4: there and it would have been the Chiefs or someone

825
00:35:12,016 --> 00:35:13,976
Speaker 4: like the Eagles, I'm like, I might have chased it.

826
00:35:14,016 --> 00:35:15,496
Speaker 4: I might have tried one more time just to get

827
00:35:15,496 --> 00:35:17,856
Speaker 4: that ring, but I didn't think Miami could win it

828
00:35:17,896 --> 00:35:19,856
Speaker 4: right there. I saw the four game stretch they had.

829
00:35:20,176 --> 00:35:21,616
Speaker 4: I'm like, I think it's better off for me to

830
00:35:21,616 --> 00:35:22,616
Speaker 4: stay right here with my family.

831
00:35:22,656 --> 00:35:25,856
Speaker 2: Did you ultimately know when you made that decision that

832
00:35:25,856 --> 00:35:29,256
Speaker 2: that might be the final time that you slept on

833
00:35:29,256 --> 00:35:33,016
Speaker 2: a field, because at that point you kind of you

834
00:35:33,056 --> 00:35:35,896
Speaker 2: had that opportunity. But again, it's it's always one of

835
00:35:35,976 --> 00:35:39,256
Speaker 2: those difficult situations because you know, maybe maybe this is.

836
00:35:39,216 --> 00:35:41,656
Speaker 4: The I think if they were calling to say like, hey,

837
00:35:43,016 --> 00:35:45,056
Speaker 4: we need you to be a backup this week, not

838
00:35:45,176 --> 00:35:47,815
Speaker 4: to come in right that week start Week one versus

839
00:35:47,896 --> 00:35:50,776
Speaker 4: the Ravens or whoever they were playing that week, I'm like, oh,

840
00:35:51,296 --> 00:35:53,416
Speaker 4: is my am I in shape. Have I been training

841
00:35:53,416 --> 00:35:55,336
Speaker 4: hard enough? All that's going through your head? Am I

842
00:35:55,336 --> 00:35:57,536
Speaker 4: putting myself at risk for it? For my wife and

843
00:35:57,616 --> 00:35:58,176
Speaker 4: kids at home?

844
00:35:58,296 --> 00:35:58,376
Speaker 3: Like?

845
00:35:58,616 --> 00:36:00,656
Speaker 4: Is it worth it? And I'm like if this would

846
00:36:00,656 --> 00:36:02,336
Speaker 4: have been the Eagles and be like, hey, let's let's

847
00:36:02,376 --> 00:36:04,536
Speaker 4: bring you as a swing guy. We want to build

848
00:36:04,536 --> 00:36:07,416
Speaker 4: some depth before the playoffs. I've been like, yes, I'm coming,

849
00:36:07,896 --> 00:36:09,936
Speaker 4: but right there as a starter, I'm like, I don't

850
00:36:09,976 --> 00:36:12,856
Speaker 4: know if my body is physically ready yet for the

851
00:36:12,896 --> 00:36:14,496
Speaker 4: ground that I might have to do for the next

852
00:36:14,656 --> 00:36:15,576
Speaker 4: four to six weeks.

853
00:36:15,856 --> 00:36:18,256
Speaker 6: Let's go all the way back to your high school days.

854
00:36:18,576 --> 00:36:20,296
Speaker 6: Did you play center in high school?

855
00:36:21,096 --> 00:36:23,136
Speaker 3: Also? What other positions that you play?

856
00:36:23,536 --> 00:36:26,815
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I've had a crazy journey through the O line.

857
00:36:26,816 --> 00:36:29,856
Speaker 4: And so in high school I started as a freshman

858
00:36:29,856 --> 00:36:33,856
Speaker 4: at left tackle. My brother was the quarterback. Next year

859
00:36:33,856 --> 00:36:36,936
Speaker 4: his senior, I was the center. And me and him

860
00:36:37,176 --> 00:36:40,976
Speaker 4: are totally different. He is all ball, all time, mister,

861
00:36:41,536 --> 00:36:44,736
Speaker 4: keep me in line, like held everybody on the whole

862
00:36:44,736 --> 00:36:48,016
Speaker 4: team accountable. Like I had a bad snap, I walked

863
00:36:48,016 --> 00:36:49,776
Speaker 4: to the sideline, I might get punched in the face.

864
00:36:51,096 --> 00:36:53,456
Speaker 4: In school, if I did something wrong, I would be

865
00:36:53,536 --> 00:36:55,176
Speaker 4: having to call my mom at home, like, hey, I

866
00:36:55,176 --> 00:36:57,616
Speaker 4: got to fight school days hand the phone with my brother. Hey,

867
00:36:57,616 --> 00:36:59,376
Speaker 4: I got to fight for school today. She's like with

868
00:36:59,656 --> 00:37:03,696
Speaker 4: each other. So we fought literally all the way through

869
00:37:03,896 --> 00:37:06,896
Speaker 4: college like we were best friends. He was my father figure.

870
00:37:06,976 --> 00:37:08,936
Speaker 4: My dad passed when I was ten, so he was

871
00:37:08,936 --> 00:37:11,736
Speaker 4: our rock. He was the reason why I went barefoot

872
00:37:11,736 --> 00:37:14,736
Speaker 4: before every game because he was so superstitious. And I

873
00:37:14,776 --> 00:37:16,856
Speaker 4: carried that on all the way through high school, college

874
00:37:16,856 --> 00:37:19,016
Speaker 4: and pros to kind of show him like, hey, you

875
00:37:19,096 --> 00:37:21,016
Speaker 4: turned me into a man. You're a guy look up to,

876
00:37:21,536 --> 00:37:23,616
Speaker 4: And that was one of the key things. And high

877
00:37:23,656 --> 00:37:28,416
Speaker 4: school played everything center guard, tackle, defense, kick, punted I could.

878
00:37:28,536 --> 00:37:30,216
Speaker 4: I was literally all right, if you want me to

879
00:37:30,216 --> 00:37:30,976
Speaker 4: do it, I'll try.

880
00:37:31,456 --> 00:37:32,376
Speaker 3: Pretty good athlete.

881
00:37:32,816 --> 00:37:36,336
Speaker 4: My bad played baseball, basketball, wrestled.

882
00:37:36,296 --> 00:37:38,016
Speaker 3: Weren't you a state champion as well? And wrestling.

883
00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:39,736
Speaker 2: Can you imagine getting in the ring with this guy

884
00:37:39,736 --> 00:37:41,576
Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't know, I don't know.

885
00:37:41,616 --> 00:37:44,456
Speaker 3: I think I wouldn't the Big Bear wrestling bear? My

886
00:37:44,576 --> 00:37:46,456
Speaker 3: kids calling the Big Bear? Did you like wrestling?

887
00:37:46,656 --> 00:37:50,416
Speaker 4: I did? I wrestled so ten years old my dad passed.

888
00:37:50,616 --> 00:37:52,256
Speaker 4: Now I get hit in the head with a baseball back,

889
00:37:52,336 --> 00:37:55,256
Speaker 4: like six months later had a crane anonomy. Didn't think

890
00:37:55,256 --> 00:37:55,936
Speaker 4: I was gonna live.

891
00:37:56,016 --> 00:37:56,696
Speaker 3: How that happened.

892
00:37:56,936 --> 00:37:59,176
Speaker 4: I was at a high school baseball game. I was

893
00:37:59,216 --> 00:38:01,456
Speaker 4: behind home home plate and I went to walk out

894
00:38:01,456 --> 00:38:04,136
Speaker 4: to the outfield bleachers to get some money from my mom.

895
00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:06,496
Speaker 4: As I'm turning the corner, boom get hit with a

896
00:38:06,576 --> 00:38:08,816
Speaker 4: back somebody was swinging as I come around the dugout.

897
00:38:09,056 --> 00:38:11,976
Speaker 3: Oh you walked into it, walked into it, never saw it? Oh?

898
00:38:12,256 --> 00:38:13,496
Speaker 3: Oh do you remember it?

899
00:38:13,936 --> 00:38:16,296
Speaker 4: Oh? I walked over to my mom crying, and she

900
00:38:16,336 --> 00:38:18,456
Speaker 4: told me to sit down and take deep breaths because

901
00:38:18,456 --> 00:38:19,616
Speaker 4: she thought I was You.

902
00:38:19,616 --> 00:38:21,696
Speaker 3: Didn't go to the hospital from the south. You like,

903
00:38:22,456 --> 00:38:23,576
Speaker 3: that's what you do, no doubt.

904
00:38:23,736 --> 00:38:26,936
Speaker 4: Take some deep breaths and passed the concussion test Castle

905
00:38:27,016 --> 00:38:30,896
Speaker 4: somehow like shocker past the concussion test. I always get

906
00:38:30,936 --> 00:38:32,816
Speaker 4: through that one. Then I started getting sick, throwing up

907
00:38:32,816 --> 00:38:35,896
Speaker 4: because I had the blood caught or blood hematoma pressing

908
00:38:35,936 --> 00:38:38,296
Speaker 4: on my brain, so making me sick. So I go

909
00:38:38,336 --> 00:38:41,456
Speaker 4: in there, I have emergency surgery and the doctor is

910
00:38:41,496 --> 00:38:43,416
Speaker 4: like trying to hold me down because I wake up

911
00:38:43,656 --> 00:38:46,376
Speaker 4: from anesthesia too early, and they're like hold me down

912
00:38:46,416 --> 00:38:48,536
Speaker 4: to hand and he moves his hand. He looks, I'm

913
00:38:48,536 --> 00:38:51,096
Speaker 4: cut ear from ear. Little did he know two weeks

914
00:38:51,136 --> 00:38:53,256
Speaker 4: before that, I hit a barbar fence on a bicycle.

915
00:38:53,776 --> 00:38:56,416
Speaker 4: So I was super glued up that My mom superglued

916
00:38:56,456 --> 00:38:58,336
Speaker 4: me up. She didn't want to take me to the

917
00:38:58,376 --> 00:39:00,856
Speaker 4: doctor because I had a baseball game that night. Just

918
00:39:00,896 --> 00:39:02,616
Speaker 4: a different way of living in the South down there

919
00:39:02,616 --> 00:39:04,896
Speaker 4: in the small town. Oh, I think I was meant

920
00:39:04,936 --> 00:39:07,056
Speaker 4: to play for ball, not baseball another sport. I think

921
00:39:07,096 --> 00:39:08,416
Speaker 4: I think I picked the right sport.

922
00:39:08,576 --> 00:39:11,296
Speaker 2: So when you got to Houston, though, your first start

923
00:39:11,336 --> 00:39:13,376
Speaker 2: was actually at guard right, Yeah, I started my first

924
00:39:13,376 --> 00:39:14,336
Speaker 2: three years ago.

925
00:39:14,376 --> 00:39:16,256
Speaker 3: Who was your first start against? And was that a

926
00:39:16,296 --> 00:39:17,736
Speaker 3: wow moment for you? Yeah?

927
00:39:17,896 --> 00:39:20,296
Speaker 4: First start, a load of nada.

928
00:39:20,656 --> 00:39:22,336
Speaker 3: Oh gosh from the Ravens.

929
00:39:22,376 --> 00:39:25,176
Speaker 4: The biggest human being I lo out the sun who

930
00:39:25,336 --> 00:39:27,656
Speaker 4: First of all, I'm like, who is this? I can't

931
00:39:27,656 --> 00:39:29,096
Speaker 4: say his name. I wouldn't want to say his name

932
00:39:29,096 --> 00:39:31,376
Speaker 4: because I didn't want to mispronounce it. He's the largest

933
00:39:31,456 --> 00:39:33,576
Speaker 4: human I remember firing off and hit. Now I'm like

934
00:39:33,936 --> 00:39:37,815
Speaker 4: scout only I'm like, who is this guy? I'm like, yeah,

935
00:39:37,896 --> 00:39:38,896
Speaker 4: don't mess with those guys.

936
00:39:39,096 --> 00:39:42,376
Speaker 6: Yeah, did you know on tape he was going to

937
00:39:42,456 --> 00:39:44,176
Speaker 6: be as difficult and as large as he was or

938
00:39:44,216 --> 00:39:45,496
Speaker 6: was that You have to experience it in person to

939
00:39:45,536 --> 00:39:46,336
Speaker 6: actually understand it.

940
00:39:46,776 --> 00:39:49,056
Speaker 4: Yeah, you see him on tape, but they had him

941
00:39:49,496 --> 00:39:53,416
Speaker 4: mount Cody Terrell, Suggs, all these guys. They all just

942
00:39:53,456 --> 00:39:56,376
Speaker 4: look to you, Oh, he's just normal. Then you walk

943
00:39:56,456 --> 00:39:57,856
Speaker 4: up to him, I'm like, that's not normal.

944
00:39:58,176 --> 00:39:59,736
Speaker 3: And they used to line him up off the ball

945
00:39:59,776 --> 00:40:01,096
Speaker 3: and give him a five yard head start.

946
00:40:01,256 --> 00:40:02,896
Speaker 4: I'm like, then they were like said, oh, we're going

947
00:40:02,976 --> 00:40:06,096
Speaker 4: to formation this so he's not on you. Where do

948
00:40:06,136 --> 00:40:08,056
Speaker 4: you think he went? He went to the rookie every

949
00:40:08,096 --> 00:40:12,576
Speaker 4: snap for the next six games. I got him Kyle Williams,

950
00:40:12,736 --> 00:40:15,376
Speaker 4: na Dominic Sue. I'm like, oh, y'all all just want

951
00:40:15,416 --> 00:40:18,096
Speaker 4: to pick on the rookie over here, not the twelve

952
00:40:18,176 --> 00:40:20,176
Speaker 4: year pro bowler on the other side, Leave me alone.

953
00:40:20,376 --> 00:40:22,976
Speaker 3: Was that a bit overwhelming your first X amount of games?

954
00:40:23,176 --> 00:40:24,776
Speaker 6: You were getting the best of the best, because they're

955
00:40:24,776 --> 00:40:27,296
Speaker 6: probably like calling Dibbs like I got to mow you down,

956
00:40:27,416 --> 00:40:29,336
Speaker 6: and so you're like, I was there ever a question

957
00:40:29,376 --> 00:40:30,456
Speaker 6: like I don't know if I can do this.

958
00:40:31,136 --> 00:40:31,216
Speaker 8: No.

959
00:40:32,016 --> 00:40:33,936
Speaker 4: Back then, I'm like, I was just excited to get

960
00:40:33,976 --> 00:40:36,696
Speaker 4: the opportunity. I was having to block JJ Watt every

961
00:40:36,736 --> 00:40:39,496
Speaker 4: day in practice, who had twenty sacks every year. I'm like, man,

962
00:40:39,536 --> 00:40:41,416
Speaker 4: if I can somewhat block him in practice, I can

963
00:40:41,456 --> 00:40:43,936
Speaker 4: block these guys. So I think going in practice versus

964
00:40:44,056 --> 00:40:45,616
Speaker 4: him kind of gave me the confidence that I can

965
00:40:45,656 --> 00:40:47,056
Speaker 4: go out there and do it on Sundays.

966
00:40:46,936 --> 00:40:48,976
Speaker 3: So they go ones and ones. You would work out

967
00:40:49,016 --> 00:40:49,696
Speaker 3: against him.

968
00:40:49,816 --> 00:40:52,376
Speaker 4: Oh So in the NFL it's a little different, Like

969
00:40:52,736 --> 00:40:55,336
Speaker 4: veterans get a lot of days off. So I would

970
00:40:55,376 --> 00:40:57,576
Speaker 4: come in and take all ten reps of scout team,

971
00:40:58,016 --> 00:41:00,216
Speaker 4: then turn around and do I was a starting right guard,

972
00:41:00,296 --> 00:41:02,696
Speaker 4: so I would take three reps at starting guard, three

973
00:41:02,696 --> 00:41:05,176
Speaker 4: reps at center, three ups at left guard. So all

974
00:41:05,216 --> 00:41:07,336
Speaker 4: this could get a break. But I would take twenty

975
00:41:07,336 --> 00:41:10,855
Speaker 4: stuck straight plays while they take three. Gotcha in shapefell Oh?

976
00:41:10,936 --> 00:41:13,016
Speaker 4: I could play all day. The hardest part was practice.

977
00:41:13,176 --> 00:41:15,016
Speaker 2: Well, if you were to pick a position, would you

978
00:41:15,056 --> 00:41:18,216
Speaker 2: have rather played guard or did you like center more?

979
00:41:18,256 --> 00:41:18,736
Speaker 3: So? Oh?

980
00:41:18,736 --> 00:41:23,016
Speaker 4: One hundred percent center. Why I'm a strong guy. I

981
00:41:23,096 --> 00:41:26,056
Speaker 4: like making the calls and I don't have to put

982
00:41:26,176 --> 00:41:28,376
Speaker 4: block those freaks on the edge, Like I don't. Don't

983
00:41:28,416 --> 00:41:30,496
Speaker 4: give me a guy who's six six and can tie

984
00:41:30,536 --> 00:41:33,696
Speaker 4: a shoe standing up. Give me the biggest, strongest fat

985
00:41:33,736 --> 00:41:35,296
Speaker 4: guy out there, Sign me up.

986
00:41:35,696 --> 00:41:40,056
Speaker 3: Who was the bull? Who was the ultimate gap filler

987
00:41:40,136 --> 00:41:41,216
Speaker 3: that you played against?

988
00:41:41,256 --> 00:41:44,896
Speaker 4: Oh, Vince will Ford because he was I couldn't tell

989
00:41:44,896 --> 00:41:46,736
Speaker 4: if he was touching me or the guard, that's how

990
00:41:46,776 --> 00:41:48,816
Speaker 4: white he was. He was just three hundred and eighty

991
00:41:48,856 --> 00:41:51,776
Speaker 4: pounds in the gap. I'm like, you're not gonna move him,

992
00:41:51,776 --> 00:41:53,816
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna it's like dancing with the bear. I

993
00:41:53,896 --> 00:41:55,856
Speaker 4: just try to cover him up and not let him

994
00:41:55,856 --> 00:41:58,736
Speaker 4: make a tackle. But because you're not gonna move him,

995
00:41:58,736 --> 00:42:00,896
Speaker 4: he's that big. He's doing his job. But you didn't

996
00:42:00,896 --> 00:42:02,376
Speaker 4: have to worry about hi pass blocking though.

997
00:42:02,456 --> 00:42:04,656
Speaker 2: How pissed were you when they took out the backside

998
00:42:04,656 --> 00:42:07,776
Speaker 2: cut cut blocking drill? I mean with that rule where

999
00:42:07,776 --> 00:42:10,296
Speaker 2: they said you're no longer allowed to cut cause I

1000
00:42:10,296 --> 00:42:11,336
Speaker 2: mean I remember back.

1001
00:42:11,176 --> 00:42:12,696
Speaker 3: In the day when we first came in the league.

1002
00:42:12,896 --> 00:42:15,856
Speaker 2: If you're running outside zone, they just are cutting at

1003
00:42:15,896 --> 00:42:18,216
Speaker 2: their legs and they're just getting after these guys. And

1004
00:42:18,256 --> 00:42:20,256
Speaker 2: they hated it, but what it would do is back

1005
00:42:20,256 --> 00:42:21,896
Speaker 2: them off a little bit. But then all of a

1006
00:42:21,896 --> 00:42:24,736
Speaker 2: sudden they said no more of that there's too much

1007
00:42:24,816 --> 00:42:25,736
Speaker 2: risk of injury.

1008
00:42:25,896 --> 00:42:27,936
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's probably why I was starting at guard

1009
00:42:27,976 --> 00:42:30,776
Speaker 4: because I could care less. I didn't watch pro football

1010
00:42:30,816 --> 00:42:32,696
Speaker 4: growing up. I grew up in the South. Sunday you

1011
00:42:32,696 --> 00:42:34,776
Speaker 4: went to church and you went to grandma's house and

1012
00:42:34,816 --> 00:42:37,536
Speaker 4: went fishing. Like, didn't watch pro football at all. Like

1013
00:42:37,536 --> 00:42:40,855
Speaker 4: I watched Alabama, Alburn, Georgia. Other than that, didn't watch TV.

1014
00:42:41,336 --> 00:42:43,176
Speaker 4: So I was like, who are these guys I'm blocking?

1015
00:42:43,216 --> 00:42:45,696
Speaker 4: Didn't know them, and I was like, I didn't care.

1016
00:42:45,736 --> 00:42:48,056
Speaker 4: I didn't cut I cut anybody. Like some people, Hey,

1017
00:42:48,056 --> 00:42:50,656
Speaker 4: you shouldn't be cutting him. I'm like, is it. I'm

1018
00:42:50,696 --> 00:42:52,856
Speaker 4: just gonna here. I'm just doing my job. This is

1019
00:42:53,016 --> 00:42:54,736
Speaker 4: cut on the pate. I'm cutting you.

1020
00:42:55,136 --> 00:42:56,496
Speaker 3: And some of it was that don't cut them well

1021
00:42:56,576 --> 00:42:58,016
Speaker 3: out of respect because they're yeah.

1022
00:42:57,816 --> 00:43:00,096
Speaker 4: They're like, hey, this guy's in year ten, Like, hey,

1023
00:43:00,096 --> 00:43:01,616
Speaker 4: you probably don't want to make him mad. I'm like,

1024
00:43:01,656 --> 00:43:02,056
Speaker 4: make you mad?

1025
00:43:02,096 --> 00:43:02,376
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

1026
00:43:02,416 --> 00:43:03,176
Speaker 4: I'm trying to win here?

1027
00:43:03,576 --> 00:43:04,216
Speaker 3: Always mad?

1028
00:43:04,456 --> 00:43:07,176
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I didn't know the difference between college and

1029
00:43:07,216 --> 00:43:09,616
Speaker 4: pro and how to practice. Like in college, I treated

1030
00:43:09,816 --> 00:43:11,776
Speaker 4: every day like a game. I didn't care if you're

1031
00:43:11,776 --> 00:43:14,296
Speaker 4: the starting nosegar starting lineback. If the player I was

1032
00:43:14,296 --> 00:43:16,496
Speaker 4: supposed to cut, I cut you in practice. Didn't care

1033
00:43:16,936 --> 00:43:19,976
Speaker 4: if you did that in pro practice, they would run you,

1034
00:43:20,016 --> 00:43:21,936
Speaker 4: they would fight you. I'm like, woy, are y'all so

1035
00:43:22,056 --> 00:43:25,096
Speaker 4: upset like this, I'm practicing like a game. They're like, no, no, no,

1036
00:43:25,136 --> 00:43:26,216
Speaker 4: that's not how we practice here.

1037
00:43:26,416 --> 00:43:27,936
Speaker 6: So you spent a few years with the Texans before

1038
00:43:27,936 --> 00:43:29,616
Speaker 6: he went over to or you came over here where

1039
00:43:29,616 --> 00:43:33,256
Speaker 6: we are to the Titans. You said you left as

1040
00:43:33,256 --> 00:43:36,656
Speaker 6: a free agent. What like, what was it about Tennessee

1041
00:43:36,736 --> 00:43:37,376
Speaker 6: that made you come?

1042
00:43:38,416 --> 00:43:39,496
Speaker 4: Definitely Matt Castle.

1043
00:43:40,176 --> 00:43:44,016
Speaker 2: I wanted to be there together.

1044
00:43:44,096 --> 00:43:47,736
Speaker 4: Yeah we did. It was a big selling point. But

1045
00:43:47,816 --> 00:43:50,616
Speaker 4: the biggest thing was I wanted to be the leader

1046
00:43:50,656 --> 00:43:52,176
Speaker 4: of the room. I was gonna be the oldest old

1047
00:43:52,216 --> 00:43:54,816
Speaker 4: lineman in our group at year five. I wanted to

1048
00:43:54,896 --> 00:43:57,696
Speaker 4: run the show as offensive lineman. And they sold me

1049
00:43:57,736 --> 00:43:59,896
Speaker 4: the dream of like, hey, we're bringing into Marco Murray.

1050
00:44:00,176 --> 00:44:03,216
Speaker 4: We're changing the culture here, Like we're gonna run the ball,

1051
00:44:03,216 --> 00:44:04,816
Speaker 4: We're gonna pound the ball, We're gonna go back to

1052
00:44:04,856 --> 00:44:06,696
Speaker 4: being a a tough Tennessee team.

1053
00:44:06,736 --> 00:44:07,816
Speaker 3: Who's selling you that dream?

1054
00:44:08,536 --> 00:44:12,376
Speaker 4: John Robinson and Mike Mularkey, They're calling me. I'm like, guys,

1055
00:44:12,536 --> 00:44:14,496
Speaker 4: y'all are the worst team in football. Y'all have the

1056
00:44:14,536 --> 00:44:17,696
Speaker 4: first pick. I just want a division in Houston. And

1057
00:44:17,736 --> 00:44:20,416
Speaker 4: we always like, hey, stat game versus Tennessee, Like, we're

1058
00:44:20,416 --> 00:44:22,576
Speaker 4: gonna go down there. We're gonna play hard, We're gonna

1059
00:44:22,616 --> 00:44:24,016
Speaker 4: win this game. We're gonna run the ball for a

1060
00:44:24,056 --> 00:44:26,056
Speaker 4: lot of yards. I'm like, why would I want to

1061
00:44:26,096 --> 00:44:28,416
Speaker 4: go there? But they sowed me that dream and I

1062
00:44:28,496 --> 00:44:30,136
Speaker 4: was like, man, I want to do something different. I

1063
00:44:30,136 --> 00:44:32,496
Speaker 4: want to get back closer to the home. And I

1064
00:44:32,536 --> 00:44:33,736
Speaker 4: was like, I'm in, let's go.

1065
00:44:34,136 --> 00:44:35,856
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things that I always appreciate

1066
00:44:35,856 --> 00:44:37,696
Speaker 2: about you because a lot of people don't understand how

1067
00:44:37,776 --> 00:44:40,656
Speaker 2: much goes into playing the center position. Obviously, you take

1068
00:44:40,696 --> 00:44:42,696
Speaker 2: on those big guys that he's talking about and the

1069
00:44:42,696 --> 00:44:44,816
Speaker 2: matchups that you have on the inside, but it's the

1070
00:44:44,856 --> 00:44:47,136
Speaker 2: mental side of the game, especially for a center, because

1071
00:44:47,176 --> 00:44:50,096
Speaker 2: as a quarterback comes up to line of scrimmage, we're

1072
00:44:50,136 --> 00:44:52,616
Speaker 2: trying to set protections. But he also was my eyes

1073
00:44:52,616 --> 00:44:55,696
Speaker 2: and ears at the line of scrimmage where he's communicating

1074
00:44:55,776 --> 00:44:58,656
Speaker 2: constantly to these guys, and I remember, Ben, you would

1075
00:44:58,656 --> 00:45:00,576
Speaker 2: always have your own meetings too, with these guys and

1076
00:45:00,616 --> 00:45:02,416
Speaker 2: we'd go in for a third down, which is always

1077
00:45:02,456 --> 00:45:05,256
Speaker 2: the most pivotal down for situational football, to keep the

1078
00:45:05,496 --> 00:45:07,696
Speaker 2: drive going. But Ben would run the meetings talk about

1079
00:45:08,096 --> 00:45:11,016
Speaker 2: like was that just something that you knew that's what

1080
00:45:11,056 --> 00:45:13,496
Speaker 2: we needed or because you took a lot of pride

1081
00:45:13,496 --> 00:45:14,896
Speaker 2: in that and you were a leader of that room

1082
00:45:14,896 --> 00:45:16,496
Speaker 2: and that showed every every single day.

1083
00:45:16,776 --> 00:45:19,936
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's only so much you can hear from a coach.

1084
00:45:20,016 --> 00:45:22,296
Speaker 4: For me, I'm like, if I made the calls, if

1085
00:45:22,336 --> 00:45:25,136
Speaker 4: all my guys saw me at there at four thirty

1086
00:45:25,136 --> 00:45:28,056
Speaker 4: the morning, staying like doing all these extra meetings, they

1087
00:45:28,096 --> 00:45:30,936
Speaker 4: trusted me with anything. I could have told Lawan or

1088
00:45:30,976 --> 00:45:33,816
Speaker 4: any of the other guys to do anything. They're like absolutely,

1089
00:45:33,856 --> 00:45:35,656
Speaker 4: Ben knows it. Like I could have made a check

1090
00:45:35,696 --> 00:45:39,136
Speaker 4: in there, like no question lines like absolutely because he

1091
00:45:39,256 --> 00:45:41,256
Speaker 4: is not there in the morning, Yeah, he's gonna show

1092
00:45:41,296 --> 00:45:43,496
Speaker 4: up and do exactly what Ben tells me. He's absolutely,

1093
00:45:43,496 --> 00:45:45,376
Speaker 4: I'll do what anything he says. And I kind of

1094
00:45:45,376 --> 00:45:47,496
Speaker 4: built that out of respect and there, like, hey, he's

1095
00:45:47,496 --> 00:45:49,216
Speaker 4: gonna do all this stuff on the tape, he's gonna

1096
00:45:49,256 --> 00:45:51,216
Speaker 4: be here every day, he's gonna practice every day and

1097
00:45:51,216 --> 00:45:52,856
Speaker 4: he's gonna play in every game. They knew I was

1098
00:45:52,896 --> 00:45:55,336
Speaker 4: gonna be there no matter what injury I had, and

1099
00:45:55,576 --> 00:45:57,176
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, I'm gonna do it a certain way,

1100
00:45:57,776 --> 00:46:00,376
Speaker 4: and I wanted to build a different kind of culture here.

1101
00:46:00,816 --> 00:46:03,896
Speaker 3: You blocked for Derrick Henry. Absolutely, he ever run up you?

1102
00:46:04,096 --> 00:46:08,456
Speaker 4: Oh? Did he? I think that's why everything got fixed

1103
00:46:08,496 --> 00:46:12,536
Speaker 4: on my right side and everything else. If you didn't

1104
00:46:12,536 --> 00:46:15,136
Speaker 4: move your guy, he moved you. And that was the thing,

1105
00:46:15,216 --> 00:46:17,136
Speaker 4: like you got the way or you were gonna get

1106
00:46:17,216 --> 00:46:18,336
Speaker 4: ran over.

1107
00:46:18,296 --> 00:46:36,856
Speaker 3: Back the first time you saw Derrick Henry and you

1108
00:46:36,896 --> 00:46:38,376
Speaker 3: saw he was going to be playing with you, what

1109
00:46:38,416 --> 00:46:39,936
Speaker 3: were your thoughts?

1110
00:46:39,936 --> 00:46:42,616
Speaker 4: Crazy story. So my brother was a strength coach at Alabama.

1111
00:46:42,936 --> 00:46:44,536
Speaker 4: I was coming home from my rookie year in the

1112
00:46:44,576 --> 00:46:47,096
Speaker 4: league and I walk into the baseball strength coach in

1113
00:46:47,136 --> 00:46:49,776
Speaker 4: the strength department. I see a guy leaving workouts, no

1114
00:46:49,896 --> 00:46:53,136
Speaker 4: shirt on. I'm like, is that Dante high Tower. He goes, No,

1115
00:46:53,256 --> 00:46:55,816
Speaker 4: that's that new freshman that we just got here, Derrick Henry.

1116
00:46:56,216 --> 00:47:00,136
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, he's eighteen. I'm like, that is

1117
00:47:00,176 --> 00:47:03,856
Speaker 4: a grown man. Then four years later he's on my team,

1118
00:47:04,216 --> 00:47:06,976
Speaker 4: the quietest human being but me, and he is like

1119
00:47:07,056 --> 00:47:09,096
Speaker 4: my brother, like I talked to him at least once

1120
00:47:09,136 --> 00:47:11,815
Speaker 4: a week, or we're so tight, our families are tight.

1121
00:47:12,016 --> 00:47:13,616
Speaker 4: And he's literally one of my best friends.

1122
00:47:13,816 --> 00:47:16,416
Speaker 2: I mean he had two thousand yards that one year.

1123
00:47:16,496 --> 00:47:17,856
Speaker 2: What was it like being a part of that? And

1124
00:47:17,856 --> 00:47:18,936
Speaker 2: what kind of gifts did he get you?

1125
00:47:19,576 --> 00:47:21,296
Speaker 3: Dick? I know he got you out. I know he's

1126
00:47:21,296 --> 00:47:21,896
Speaker 3: a gift giver.

1127
00:47:22,176 --> 00:47:24,536
Speaker 4: He is the man. He takes care of us. He

1128
00:47:24,576 --> 00:47:27,496
Speaker 4: went to every Old Line dinner with us. He might

1129
00:47:27,536 --> 00:47:29,736
Speaker 4: be a little late, but I saved this seat beside him.

1130
00:47:29,736 --> 00:47:33,416
Speaker 4: I knew he's only two twelve ounce pul As I

1131
00:47:33,456 --> 00:47:35,696
Speaker 4: would get his meal, he'd come in, he'd eat, talk

1132
00:47:35,736 --> 00:47:37,336
Speaker 4: a little bit and bounce, but he was gonna be

1133
00:47:37,376 --> 00:47:40,016
Speaker 4: there to eat them steaks every week and just the

1134
00:47:40,136 --> 00:47:43,056
Speaker 4: unreal guy. But that was special, Like we had goals.

1135
00:47:43,096 --> 00:47:44,576
Speaker 4: He would set goals like, hey, what do you want

1136
00:47:44,616 --> 00:47:47,336
Speaker 4: if we get this this year Russian title? I get

1137
00:47:47,336 --> 00:47:50,656
Speaker 4: two k So every week you never saw Derek get

1138
00:47:50,736 --> 00:47:52,576
Speaker 4: up off the ground by himself in the game. We

1139
00:47:52,576 --> 00:47:55,056
Speaker 4: were picking his butt up, know how heavy he was.

1140
00:47:55,376 --> 00:47:56,656
Speaker 4: We would pick him up, get him back in the

1141
00:47:56,736 --> 00:47:58,856
Speaker 4: huddle like hey, you got one moe in you And

1142
00:47:59,336 --> 00:48:02,096
Speaker 4: it was special. Like you're chasing greatness, Like how many

1143
00:48:02,136 --> 00:48:04,576
Speaker 4: two thousand yard rushers out there are? It's not a

1144
00:48:04,576 --> 00:48:07,336
Speaker 4: lot to be able to do that and accomplish that.

1145
00:48:07,336 --> 00:48:09,616
Speaker 4: That's like an old lineman's dream, and he did. He

1146
00:48:09,656 --> 00:48:14,016
Speaker 4: hooked us up every year, from rolexes to every kind

1147
00:48:14,056 --> 00:48:17,256
Speaker 4: of device in your house. I got pac Man machines,

1148
00:48:17,856 --> 00:48:19,736
Speaker 4: I got it all you name it that. We got

1149
00:48:19,776 --> 00:48:20,376
Speaker 4: it from him.

1150
00:48:20,456 --> 00:48:24,776
Speaker 6: I mean he and possibly Saquon, but he is the

1151
00:48:24,816 --> 00:48:27,815
Speaker 6: only for sure running back first round Hall of famer

1152
00:48:27,896 --> 00:48:29,216
Speaker 6: right now in the NFL.

1153
00:48:30,496 --> 00:48:32,816
Speaker 3: Will get there. But that's a hall of fame.

1154
00:48:32,616 --> 00:48:33,576
Speaker 4: Guy, no doubt.

1155
00:48:33,776 --> 00:48:35,776
Speaker 3: How long until you realize one that.

1156
00:48:36,456 --> 00:48:38,496
Speaker 6: Listen, he's big and he's fast, but he also would

1157
00:48:38,496 --> 00:48:41,016
Speaker 6: have the legitivity Like he's talked a lot about spending money,

1158
00:48:41,256 --> 00:48:44,176
Speaker 6: investing money into himself, and I think that's probably a

1159
00:48:44,176 --> 00:48:45,896
Speaker 6: big part of his success.

1160
00:48:45,976 --> 00:48:49,496
Speaker 4: He is so dialed into his all his routine, from

1161
00:48:49,536 --> 00:48:51,976
Speaker 4: his diet to is how he takes care of his body,

1162
00:48:52,416 --> 00:48:54,736
Speaker 4: to what he's how he takes care of a massage

1163
00:48:54,816 --> 00:48:57,856
Speaker 4: and prep work. It's every single day, Like you can

1164
00:48:57,856 --> 00:49:00,456
Speaker 4: see him in the off season. Everything is built off

1165
00:49:00,496 --> 00:49:02,096
Speaker 4: of Hey, when am I going to train? Who's going

1166
00:49:02,136 --> 00:49:04,496
Speaker 4: to do massage. Who's going to do this? He is

1167
00:49:04,536 --> 00:49:06,616
Speaker 4: so dialed in that well, and he's been doing it

1168
00:49:06,696 --> 00:49:09,176
Speaker 4: his whole career, and a lot of guys do it

1169
00:49:09,216 --> 00:49:11,856
Speaker 4: when they're later trying to add a couple years left

1170
00:49:11,896 --> 00:49:14,776
Speaker 4: in their career. For me, I was like a guy

1171
00:49:14,896 --> 00:49:18,376
Speaker 4: that big, that strong, that physical to really only miss

1172
00:49:18,416 --> 00:49:20,816
Speaker 4: a handful of games with a broke foot, that speaks

1173
00:49:20,856 --> 00:49:22,816
Speaker 4: highly of how much he cares. And a lot of

1174
00:49:22,896 --> 00:49:25,216
Speaker 4: guys once they get paid, they kind of relax a

1175
00:49:25,256 --> 00:49:27,696
Speaker 4: little bit. I feel like he's been out to try

1176
00:49:27,776 --> 00:49:28,696
Speaker 4: to prove it the whole time.

1177
00:49:28,816 --> 00:49:31,296
Speaker 2: How excited were you when he finally got that opportunity

1178
00:49:31,496 --> 00:49:35,136
Speaker 2: to go to Baltimore because it gave him that's that's

1179
00:49:35,176 --> 00:49:37,936
Speaker 2: not a new standard for Baltimore, just to potentially go

1180
00:49:37,976 --> 00:49:38,776
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl.

1181
00:49:38,976 --> 00:49:41,936
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's what you're sitting there wanting. We're talking through it,

1182
00:49:42,696 --> 00:49:44,976
Speaker 4: and you want to see his career just keep climbing.

1183
00:49:45,416 --> 00:49:48,696
Speaker 4: And we're definitely Ravens fans at our house. We watch

1184
00:49:48,776 --> 00:49:51,176
Speaker 4: him every Sunday. He's on my fantasy team like he

1185
00:49:51,336 --> 00:49:54,736
Speaker 4: is my guy, and he's in the perfect scenario. You

1186
00:49:54,816 --> 00:49:56,936
Speaker 4: got Lamar Jackson out there, So if you want to

1187
00:49:56,976 --> 00:49:59,016
Speaker 4: dial in on him. Good luck. You got to stop

1188
00:49:59,056 --> 00:49:59,576
Speaker 4: lamar too.

1189
00:49:59,776 --> 00:50:03,456
Speaker 6: Let me ask you about spitting, because this past weekend

1190
00:50:03,536 --> 00:50:07,336
Speaker 6: we saw it a couple times change games, the trajectory

1191
00:50:07,336 --> 00:50:09,176
Speaker 6: of games, because I don't think the Cowboys would have

1192
00:50:09,176 --> 00:50:12,456
Speaker 6: been able to run as much up the middle had

1193
00:50:12,496 --> 00:50:16,096
Speaker 6: that not happened, uh, after the after the kickoff, right,

1194
00:50:16,856 --> 00:50:18,616
Speaker 6: And then secondly we saw in the Florida game like

1195
00:50:18,656 --> 00:50:21,656
Speaker 6: that lost in the game. I feel like offensive a

1196
00:50:21,696 --> 00:50:24,376
Speaker 6: defensive linemen are probably spitting a little more just naturally.

1197
00:50:26,096 --> 00:50:28,176
Speaker 6: Is that the ultimate insult that somebody spits on you?

1198
00:50:28,216 --> 00:50:32,335
Speaker 4: Absolutely? That or a slap, So.

1199
00:50:32,296 --> 00:50:35,496
Speaker 2: We saw that too though with slap, but I would

1200
00:50:35,496 --> 00:50:37,736
Speaker 2: say a spit is just so disrespectful.

1201
00:50:38,256 --> 00:50:40,776
Speaker 3: Yeah, some spitting is gonna happen just naturally, right, Yeah,

1202
00:50:41,256 --> 00:50:43,136
Speaker 3: but but there's an obvious.

1203
00:50:44,256 --> 00:50:47,136
Speaker 4: Yeah that's uh, it's kind of gross.

1204
00:50:47,816 --> 00:50:51,376
Speaker 6: But more than gross, it's like yours, you were disrespected.

1205
00:50:52,496 --> 00:50:54,336
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty bad. Yeah, I ar give you that.

1206
00:50:54,336 --> 00:50:56,656
Speaker 4: That's that's pretty bad. I've been. I've been, I've been

1207
00:50:56,696 --> 00:50:58,256
Speaker 4: thrown out the game with him if he spit on me.

1208
00:50:58,536 --> 00:51:00,776
Speaker 6: Is that does that happen that we don't see offensive

1209
00:51:00,776 --> 00:51:03,176
Speaker 6: a defensive line because again, your proximity is so close, right, well,

1210
00:51:03,216 --> 00:51:06,056
Speaker 6: we were able to see with Dak well, there was

1211
00:51:06,616 --> 00:51:08,696
Speaker 6: a good amount of distance. That was a strong spit.

1212
00:51:08,816 --> 00:51:10,976
Speaker 6: The camera's on them. It's him going up to all

1213
00:51:10,976 --> 00:51:13,536
Speaker 6: the Cowboys players spinning on deck. Is that happening though

1214
00:51:13,536 --> 00:51:16,496
Speaker 6: a little more with the interior offensive defensive lines, and

1215
00:51:16,576 --> 00:51:17,216
Speaker 6: we just don't see it.

1216
00:51:18,016 --> 00:51:21,416
Speaker 4: I think it's more of a respect. Like I blocked

1217
00:51:21,536 --> 00:51:25,736
Speaker 4: say Aby Jones at the Jaguars for twenty two times

1218
00:51:25,736 --> 00:51:29,256
Speaker 4: over eleven years from and I knew it's I played

1219
00:51:29,256 --> 00:51:31,776
Speaker 4: with him at Georgia. I knew his family, like his

1220
00:51:31,856 --> 00:51:33,776
Speaker 4: whole goal was to get a sack on me. We

1221
00:51:33,896 --> 00:51:36,736
Speaker 4: fought every single play like we hated each other. But

1222
00:51:36,736 --> 00:51:38,976
Speaker 4: as soon as a game over, hugging talking about his fans,

1223
00:51:39,136 --> 00:51:40,936
Speaker 4: you gotta have some respect this game. You got to

1224
00:51:40,936 --> 00:51:43,416
Speaker 4: play in between the whistles. You play as hard as

1225
00:51:43,456 --> 00:51:45,536
Speaker 4: you can, but it comes down to, hey, you're a

1226
00:51:45,536 --> 00:51:48,256
Speaker 4: good person. You got to respect others because you're setting

1227
00:51:48,296 --> 00:51:51,296
Speaker 4: example for not owing your family, your kids like you

1228
00:51:51,376 --> 00:51:54,056
Speaker 4: are a romo. Everybody is watching. What do you want

1229
00:51:54,056 --> 00:51:55,896
Speaker 4: to be? What do you want to put on tape? Like, yes,

1230
00:51:55,936 --> 00:51:58,976
Speaker 4: if you're a hard player, that's great. But don't be disrespectful.

1231
00:51:59,056 --> 00:52:01,736
Speaker 2: But who didn't you respect because you know that there's players,

1232
00:52:01,776 --> 00:52:03,736
Speaker 2: Like you've got respect for most players at least you're

1233
00:52:03,736 --> 00:52:04,896
Speaker 2: giving them the benefit of the doubts.

1234
00:52:04,936 --> 00:52:06,496
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's those dudes.

1235
00:52:06,536 --> 00:52:10,376
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm saying to some people. Yeah, like when

1236
00:52:10,416 --> 00:52:14,296
Speaker 4: you play, say Sue, you don't wake up the sleeping giant, Like, hey,

1237
00:52:14,296 --> 00:52:16,656
Speaker 4: if it's you're playing a noon game, like, hey, you

1238
00:52:16,776 --> 00:52:18,936
Speaker 4: playing against Tennessee and a lot of guys probably ain't

1239
00:52:18,976 --> 00:52:22,096
Speaker 4: watching Sue, like you're not. You're not doing anything extra.

1240
00:52:22,696 --> 00:52:24,696
Speaker 4: Hey you good man? You get up off the ground, like,

1241
00:52:24,696 --> 00:52:28,016
Speaker 4: hey you good. There you good. You're not trying to

1242
00:52:28,016 --> 00:52:29,416
Speaker 4: wake that giant up during the game.

1243
00:52:29,496 --> 00:52:31,896
Speaker 3: Do you remember when he cold cocked Marco?

1244
00:52:32,096 --> 00:52:33,936
Speaker 4: He punched the Marco in the face in the game,

1245
00:52:34,016 --> 00:52:35,056
Speaker 4: and they didn't catch it on.

1246
00:52:35,016 --> 00:52:37,496
Speaker 3: It, catch it, I'm sitting Just release the ball. You

1247
00:52:37,536 --> 00:52:40,736
Speaker 3: saw it too, Like Tom, I gotta block your whole lot.

1248
00:52:41,256 --> 00:52:42,096
Speaker 3: Leave him alone.

1249
00:52:42,496 --> 00:52:44,256
Speaker 6: It's almost like you don't want to get huld Cogan

1250
00:52:44,296 --> 00:52:46,256
Speaker 6: mad because when he starts shaking his head, Oh yeah,

1251
00:52:46,296 --> 00:52:47,736
Speaker 6: you don't want that, And when he doesn't feel the

1252
00:52:47,776 --> 00:52:50,296
Speaker 6: slaps anymore, that sounds a bit like what Sue might

1253
00:52:50,336 --> 00:52:50,736
Speaker 6: have been like.

1254
00:52:50,696 --> 00:52:53,136
Speaker 4: Yea, yeah, you don't wake that giant up. You're nice

1255
00:52:53,176 --> 00:52:55,256
Speaker 4: to certain guys and the thing, but then you know

1256
00:52:55,296 --> 00:52:57,256
Speaker 4: who to talk to. Like you get a d lineman

1257
00:52:57,296 --> 00:52:59,056
Speaker 4: who's a rookie and they're trying hard.

1258
00:52:59,256 --> 00:53:00,256
Speaker 3: I'm like, what who are you?

1259
00:53:00,536 --> 00:53:03,736
Speaker 4: Yeah you peace, congratulations, I'm glad you made it up today.

1260
00:53:04,096 --> 00:53:05,696
Speaker 4: So you know how to poke the bear on some

1261
00:53:05,776 --> 00:53:06,176
Speaker 4: of them.

1262
00:53:06,296 --> 00:53:08,816
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald, what was he like going against.

1263
00:53:11,856 --> 00:53:14,816
Speaker 4: He's one of those guys You're like, it's not the

1264
00:53:14,856 --> 00:53:17,296
Speaker 4: fact that he's gonna run you over. You just couldn't

1265
00:53:17,336 --> 00:53:19,296
Speaker 4: touch him, Like you'd go and punch and you'd be

1266
00:53:19,336 --> 00:53:21,736
Speaker 4: like where do you go? Like how did he possibly

1267
00:53:22,136 --> 00:53:24,336
Speaker 4: get in between both of us? Like he was like

1268
00:53:24,376 --> 00:53:26,096
Speaker 4: Houdini out there. I'm like, it's no way he's gonna

1269
00:53:26,096 --> 00:53:28,896
Speaker 4: fit in between this little crack. He would find a way.

1270
00:53:28,936 --> 00:53:32,736
Speaker 4: And he was the most dynamic physical freak that you

1271
00:53:32,776 --> 00:53:34,656
Speaker 4: ever played. And he could go every play and talk

1272
00:53:34,736 --> 00:53:36,816
Speaker 4: smack with the best of them, like he lets you

1273
00:53:36,896 --> 00:53:39,855
Speaker 4: know you're like I know, I know, I know you're good.

1274
00:53:40,176 --> 00:53:42,776
Speaker 4: We're gonna try to double team and slide slide the

1275
00:53:42,816 --> 00:53:45,656
Speaker 4: protection to you every play, and you knew like I'm like,

1276
00:53:45,896 --> 00:53:47,696
Speaker 4: thank goodness, I wasn't the worst old lineman at that

1277
00:53:47,736 --> 00:53:49,296
Speaker 4: point in my career because he didn't come to me.

1278
00:53:49,376 --> 00:53:51,216
Speaker 4: I'd get some like some.

1279
00:53:51,176 --> 00:53:53,296
Speaker 3: Little noseguard who had no business being on.

1280
00:53:53,256 --> 00:53:55,496
Speaker 4: The film, like, yes, I'm blocking you. You can deal

1281
00:53:55,536 --> 00:53:57,216
Speaker 4: with Aaron. I don't block you.

1282
00:53:57,296 --> 00:53:59,296
Speaker 3: Good luck the physicality of your position.

1283
00:53:59,296 --> 00:54:02,296
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't appreciate the offensive lineman because

1284
00:54:02,336 --> 00:54:04,776
Speaker 2: they're usually not the focal point of what's going on.

1285
00:54:04,816 --> 00:54:09,096
Speaker 2: But you got constantly play through pain. How many surgeries

1286
00:54:09,176 --> 00:54:12,496
Speaker 2: have you had and talk about the one bone? Yeah,

1287
00:54:12,496 --> 00:54:15,296
Speaker 2: your collarbones coming out your chest. Yeah, it was fun.

1288
00:54:16,416 --> 00:54:20,976
Speaker 4: Yeah. I've had multiple hands, knees, ankles, they took out

1289
00:54:21,016 --> 00:54:26,736
Speaker 4: my labrum, did everything to my elbows. Collarbone that it's

1290
00:54:26,736 --> 00:54:28,696
Speaker 4: still it gives me a little trouble. I'm a golf

1291
00:54:28,736 --> 00:54:31,936
Speaker 4: swing definitely. I get it caught in a twist and

1292
00:54:32,056 --> 00:54:35,216
Speaker 4: collarbone comes through, sticking in the back of my throat.

1293
00:54:36,216 --> 00:54:38,176
Speaker 4: All the fans and reporters think I have the stomach

1294
00:54:38,216 --> 00:54:40,336
Speaker 4: brus because that bone is sticking in the back of

1295
00:54:40,376 --> 00:54:42,616
Speaker 4: my throat, tickling it making me throw up.

1296
00:54:42,936 --> 00:54:45,696
Speaker 3: No way, yes, yeah, story, So.

1297
00:54:45,656 --> 00:54:47,776
Speaker 4: They had I come to the sideline. It was on

1298
00:54:47,856 --> 00:54:50,616
Speaker 4: third down thinking goodness and had to come out. I

1299
00:54:50,696 --> 00:54:52,896
Speaker 4: come to the sideline, I'm like, hey, my collarboneses out

1300
00:54:52,896 --> 00:54:54,056
Speaker 4: and they're like, what do you mean it's I'm like

1301
00:54:54,096 --> 00:54:56,816
Speaker 4: it's poking through. They're like, oh, yeah, it's in the

1302
00:54:56,816 --> 00:54:58,856
Speaker 4: back of your throat. Let's get this back in. So

1303
00:54:58,896 --> 00:55:00,856
Speaker 4: I'm like trying to put it back in place on

1304
00:55:00,896 --> 00:55:03,416
Speaker 4: the sideline and they throw it back in. They're like,

1305
00:55:03,416 --> 00:55:05,296
Speaker 4: all right, can you snap? So every time I snapped

1306
00:55:05,376 --> 00:55:06,536
Speaker 4: would pop out and hit me in the back of

1307
00:55:06,576 --> 00:55:08,816
Speaker 4: the throat. So I'm like constantly throwing up because.

1308
00:55:08,696 --> 00:55:10,936
Speaker 3: It's a gags right, stick your finger down.

1309
00:55:10,936 --> 00:55:12,896
Speaker 4: You gonna thought imagine a bone hit in the back

1310
00:55:12,936 --> 00:55:15,216
Speaker 4: of your It's gonna make you throw up. So I'm like,

1311
00:55:15,376 --> 00:55:17,256
Speaker 4: my wife's in the stand, my mom's there that game.

1312
00:55:17,296 --> 00:55:20,736
Speaker 4: She's like, it's been sick, Like, what's going on? I

1313
00:55:20,816 --> 00:55:25,416
Speaker 4: wish I was sick. I wish I had the stomach back. Yeah,

1314
00:55:25,536 --> 00:55:27,096
Speaker 4: like so, and I had that point. I had a

1315
00:55:27,096 --> 00:55:29,616
Speaker 4: streak of starts going on, so I'm not coming out.

1316
00:55:29,776 --> 00:55:31,576
Speaker 4: So all the next week, a couple of weeks of practice,

1317
00:55:31,616 --> 00:55:33,576
Speaker 4: I couldn't snap it practice. I just him the football

1318
00:55:33,776 --> 00:55:35,536
Speaker 4: and go out there and practice, and I'm like, all right,

1319
00:55:35,736 --> 00:55:38,016
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tough it out during the games, and it's

1320
00:55:38,016 --> 00:55:41,296
Speaker 4: gonna just keep poking out, just figure it out during

1321
00:55:41,296 --> 00:55:41,696
Speaker 4: the games.

1322
00:55:42,496 --> 00:55:44,016
Speaker 3: Do you ever have a quarterback that's so nervous you

1323
00:55:44,016 --> 00:55:46,216
Speaker 3: can fill his hands trembling under center. Oh?

1324
00:55:46,296 --> 00:55:48,656
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had one of those. I'm trying to think.

1325
00:55:48,776 --> 00:55:50,536
Speaker 3: He was like, because I think that's what I would

1326
00:55:50,536 --> 00:55:52,216
Speaker 3: be doing. I think my first game i'd be like,

1327
00:55:52,216 --> 00:55:53,456
Speaker 3: oh god, and I want to be to see it.

1328
00:55:53,496 --> 00:55:55,336
Speaker 3: But with the thing in me that shows when I'm

1329
00:55:55,336 --> 00:55:56,496
Speaker 3: nervous my hands.

1330
00:55:56,536 --> 00:55:58,416
Speaker 4: We had a quarterback was on peace squad, and I

1331
00:55:58,496 --> 00:56:00,616
Speaker 4: think he was gonna get elevated. He like, I never

1332
00:56:00,656 --> 00:56:02,696
Speaker 4: took snaps with him in practice, and they're like, how

1333
00:56:02,816 --> 00:56:05,616
Speaker 4: was he. I'm like, besides him, just give me a

1334
00:56:05,616 --> 00:56:06,216
Speaker 4: butt message.

1335
00:56:06,256 --> 00:56:08,256
Speaker 3: The whole parat you kind of we're excited by it.

1336
00:56:08,576 --> 00:56:10,496
Speaker 4: Oh what is we guy here? This is new, this

1337
00:56:10,616 --> 00:56:12,855
Speaker 4: is a this is a new territory. I've been down here,

1338
00:56:13,856 --> 00:56:16,576
Speaker 4: but yeah, I could. I can see for a quarterback

1339
00:56:16,576 --> 00:56:19,456
Speaker 4: and center, it's a different relationship. Like how many guys

1340
00:56:19,496 --> 00:56:21,296
Speaker 4: walk up and just hey, let's put your hands right

1341
00:56:21,376 --> 00:56:22,136
Speaker 4: up in somebody's butt.

1342
00:56:22,216 --> 00:56:23,176
Speaker 3: Let's get intimate. Now.

1343
00:56:23,256 --> 00:56:26,056
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I feel like if some quarterbacks take it

1344
00:56:26,096 --> 00:56:27,896
Speaker 4: a little different other so I always try to lighten

1345
00:56:27,976 --> 00:56:29,936
Speaker 4: the mood. No telling what I would say or do

1346
00:56:30,056 --> 00:56:33,176
Speaker 4: to him, but it always made it the relationship better.

1347
00:56:33,176 --> 00:56:35,216
Speaker 4: As the years went on, you two played right and

1348
00:56:35,256 --> 00:56:38,016
Speaker 4: you you We had too many good moments.

1349
00:56:37,776 --> 00:56:38,696
Speaker 3: Too many good moments.

1350
00:56:38,776 --> 00:56:41,456
Speaker 2: The thing that I remember most also is the locker

1351
00:56:41,536 --> 00:56:44,816
Speaker 2: room and the banter that Ben would create. So he's legendary.

1352
00:56:45,016 --> 00:56:48,456
Speaker 2: If it's your birthday, he knows it's your birthday. So

1353
00:56:48,536 --> 00:56:51,176
Speaker 2: what he does is he comes up and he'll go

1354
00:56:51,336 --> 00:56:55,176
Speaker 2: to great lengths to smash you in the face with

1355
00:56:55,216 --> 00:56:55,936
Speaker 2: a birthday cake.

1356
00:56:56,256 --> 00:56:59,576
Speaker 3: Well it happened anything or anything anything basically.

1357
00:56:59,656 --> 00:57:02,616
Speaker 2: So you could go through countless guys in the locker

1358
00:57:02,736 --> 00:57:05,776
Speaker 2: room and they all have been smashed by Ben Jones.

1359
00:57:06,256 --> 00:57:08,096
Speaker 3: Two of my favorite well one was me.

1360
00:57:08,296 --> 00:57:10,256
Speaker 2: I was walking and I didn't know my wife of course,

1361
00:57:10,616 --> 00:57:13,056
Speaker 2: text message some of my buddies like, hey, it's mass birthday,

1362
00:57:13,056 --> 00:57:15,896
Speaker 2: make sure you celebrate. I'm they distract me when I

1363
00:57:15,896 --> 00:57:19,256
Speaker 2: come in. Next thing I know, I get just mashed

1364
00:57:19,256 --> 00:57:20,696
Speaker 2: in the face and I'm telling.

1365
00:57:20,496 --> 00:57:21,976
Speaker 3: You, I thought I broke my nose.

1366
00:57:22,296 --> 00:57:24,936
Speaker 2: My eyes are watering, and none of the cake actually

1367
00:57:24,936 --> 00:57:27,736
Speaker 2: sat on my face because dummy, here it was a

1368
00:57:27,736 --> 00:57:28,496
Speaker 2: frozen cake.

1369
00:57:28,656 --> 00:57:30,216
Speaker 4: I thought I got a out of refrigerator.

1370
00:57:30,256 --> 00:57:31,936
Speaker 3: It was actually, bro you have the ice cake?

1371
00:57:32,416 --> 00:57:35,976
Speaker 4: No it was it was one of those public.

1372
00:57:35,656 --> 00:57:38,376
Speaker 2: Cake that's basically it's an icy It's like, hit me

1373
00:57:38,456 --> 00:57:39,816
Speaker 2: in the damn face with a brick.

1374
00:57:40,896 --> 00:57:43,016
Speaker 3: So I thought, I broke my damn nose. My eyes

1375
00:57:43,016 --> 00:57:46,176
Speaker 3: are water like, what the hell? He filmed it?

1376
00:57:46,736 --> 00:57:46,936
Speaker 8: Uh?

1377
00:57:47,016 --> 00:57:49,016
Speaker 3: And then the other one tell him about Arthur Smith.

1378
00:57:49,216 --> 00:57:51,656
Speaker 4: So me and Arthur Smith we had we went at

1379
00:57:51,696 --> 00:57:55,056
Speaker 4: it like, oh see, Like he's like, you can't get me.

1380
00:57:55,336 --> 00:57:58,176
Speaker 4: I went links and bounds to get him. I got

1381
00:57:58,216 --> 00:58:00,416
Speaker 4: him at a low office one year on his birthday

1382
00:58:00,416 --> 00:58:03,176
Speaker 4: because he was like on a holiday. I schnuck into

1383
00:58:03,216 --> 00:58:06,056
Speaker 4: his own house when he was Atlanta falcons coat. I

1384
00:58:06,096 --> 00:58:08,536
Speaker 4: figured out when he was getting back into town. I

1385
00:58:08,576 --> 00:58:11,216
Speaker 4: had drone footage on different maps. I'm like, all right,

1386
00:58:11,256 --> 00:58:13,816
Speaker 4: that's cameras there. I staked it out the night before

1387
00:58:13,816 --> 00:58:15,416
Speaker 4: to see if he had motion lights in his house.

1388
00:58:15,456 --> 00:58:17,816
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, he's he's FedEx man. He's gonna

1389
00:58:17,816 --> 00:58:20,176
Speaker 4: have some kind of security that's gonna set off something.

1390
00:58:20,576 --> 00:58:23,656
Speaker 4: I army crawled through the trees through his house. He

1391
00:58:23,696 --> 00:58:25,896
Speaker 4: had a broken sprinkler head, which he should have thanked me.

1392
00:58:25,936 --> 00:58:27,896
Speaker 4: I helped him out there. I'm like, there's a sprinkle

1393
00:58:27,896 --> 00:58:31,016
Speaker 4: head for him, got in there, looked in there, doggy

1394
00:58:31,096 --> 00:58:32,976
Speaker 4: door in his house. His wife's like, what are you?

1395
00:58:33,936 --> 00:58:35,696
Speaker 4: So he's sitting on the couch. It's like eleven thirty

1396
00:58:35,696 --> 00:58:38,256
Speaker 4: at night. I come running full Superman over the couch

1397
00:58:38,296 --> 00:58:39,816
Speaker 4: and boom hit him right in the face on his

1398
00:58:39,856 --> 00:58:42,816
Speaker 4: own couch. He was like, how did you know? I

1399
00:58:42,856 --> 00:58:47,816
Speaker 4: was even in towns like everybody. Nobody is safe, nobody insane, nobody.

1400
00:58:47,896 --> 00:58:50,176
Speaker 3: Bobby's your birthday? Yeah, no, I don't have one. That's

1401
00:58:50,216 --> 00:58:53,536
Speaker 3: the thing. I no longer have a birthday. Was it

1402
00:58:53,616 --> 00:58:55,856
Speaker 3: always Georgia for you? Were you always gonna go to Georgia?

1403
00:58:56,096 --> 00:58:57,896
Speaker 4: So that was a big thing, Like my dad went

1404
00:58:57,936 --> 00:59:00,336
Speaker 4: to Georgia. When once he passed, I was like, if

1405
00:59:00,336 --> 00:59:02,136
Speaker 4: I could ever go to Georgia, it was a one

1406
00:59:02,256 --> 00:59:03,336
Speaker 4: hundred percent locked for me.

1407
00:59:03,416 --> 00:59:04,416
Speaker 3: Well, how many stars were you?

1408
00:59:05,456 --> 00:59:09,936
Speaker 4: Three star? So I was literally I had no film nothing.

1409
00:59:10,056 --> 00:59:13,096
Speaker 4: My senior year, I literally whatever school I went and

1410
00:59:13,096 --> 00:59:15,336
Speaker 4: took a visit to they offered me so I was like,

1411
00:59:15,336 --> 00:59:16,816
Speaker 4: I really want to go to play at Georgia. So

1412
00:59:16,896 --> 00:59:19,536
Speaker 4: I went to Georgia camp and literally they didn't know

1413
00:59:19,576 --> 00:59:22,176
Speaker 4: who I was. I lined up and went twenty straight

1414
00:59:22,216 --> 00:59:24,616
Speaker 4: reps in one and at that point I didn't know

1415
00:59:24,656 --> 00:59:27,216
Speaker 4: who the coaches were, and they were like, you do another.

1416
00:59:27,256 --> 00:59:28,856
Speaker 4: I was like, how many damn times you want me

1417
00:59:28,896 --> 00:59:32,096
Speaker 4: to go? Like you got I've already beat these I

1418
00:59:32,136 --> 00:59:34,096
Speaker 4: was like, I've already beat all these guys three times.

1419
00:59:34,096 --> 00:59:36,096
Speaker 4: They were like, all right, we'll take h We'll take you.

1420
00:59:36,216 --> 00:59:37,896
Speaker 4: Then the next week I went to Alabama and kind

1421
00:59:37,896 --> 00:59:41,056
Speaker 4: of the same thing happened. And that was the thing,

1422
00:59:41,176 --> 00:59:42,496
Speaker 4: Like I was like, all right, I got the two

1423
00:59:42,496 --> 00:59:44,576
Speaker 4: schools I wanted. I'm done. They were like, hold on,

1424
00:59:44,736 --> 00:59:47,176
Speaker 4: keep it alive for your recruiting stuff. On my Georgia

1425
00:59:47,216 --> 00:59:48,776
Speaker 4: offered me, I'm going there and I'm gonna be there

1426
00:59:48,776 --> 00:59:49,376
Speaker 4: in six months.

1427
00:59:49,616 --> 00:59:53,016
Speaker 3: Yeah, so twenty two night, When did you go to Georgia?

1428
00:59:53,056 --> 00:59:54,616
Speaker 4: I went there eight? So I was there? A staff?

1429
00:59:54,776 --> 00:59:55,456
Speaker 3: Were there? Was staff?

1430
00:59:55,536 --> 00:59:56,416
Speaker 4: Right?

1431
00:59:56,776 --> 00:59:58,616
Speaker 3: Yeah? Stafford? Was Rick your coach?

1432
00:59:58,696 --> 00:59:59,656
Speaker 4: Yep? Marts coach?

1433
00:59:59,976 --> 01:00:02,696
Speaker 3: Were you there all your years years with Rick? Was

1434
01:00:02,776 --> 01:00:04,936
Speaker 3: did you ever play with? Uh? Who did you? Was

1435
01:00:04,936 --> 01:00:05,736
Speaker 3: something if it's the.

1436
01:00:05,736 --> 01:00:10,176
Speaker 4: Ball Geno Atkins, Rashad Jones justin Houston.

1437
01:00:11,216 --> 01:00:12,336
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, you guys have to do.

1438
01:00:13,136 --> 01:00:13,696
Speaker 4: We were loaded.

1439
01:00:13,736 --> 01:00:14,776
Speaker 3: Did you love college?

1440
01:00:14,976 --> 01:00:17,056
Speaker 4: I absolutely had a blast. It was the best four

1441
01:00:17,136 --> 01:00:17,736
Speaker 4: years of my life.

1442
01:00:17,776 --> 01:00:19,296
Speaker 2: And you lived in a house too, with like how

1443
01:00:19,296 --> 01:00:21,736
Speaker 2: many dudes? It was five of us, five five guys

1444
01:00:21,816 --> 01:00:23,616
Speaker 2: were they all all on the football team.

1445
01:00:23,496 --> 01:00:25,376
Speaker 4: All football walk ons. Everything we had.

1446
01:00:25,456 --> 01:00:27,216
Speaker 3: I can only imagine that place.

1447
01:00:27,576 --> 01:00:30,776
Speaker 4: Oh, the Mounted Dars, And they always said, I would say,

1448
01:00:30,776 --> 01:00:33,576
Speaker 4: who won't. I remember trying to do the super Troopers,

1449
01:00:33,656 --> 01:00:35,376
Speaker 4: Like chug the bottle of syrup at like two in

1450
01:00:35,416 --> 01:00:38,696
Speaker 4: the morning's one hundred percent fake by super Troops. They

1451
01:00:38,736 --> 01:00:40,496
Speaker 4: had to be coke cal It's no way you can

1452
01:00:40,696 --> 01:00:42,736
Speaker 4: there's a rug a bottle of syrup. No, but you

1453
01:00:42,776 --> 01:00:43,216
Speaker 4: would try.

1454
01:00:43,256 --> 01:00:43,696
Speaker 3: I tried.

1455
01:00:43,816 --> 01:00:45,016
Speaker 4: I tried. I tried it.

1456
01:00:45,176 --> 01:00:45,416
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1457
01:00:46,656 --> 01:00:51,136
Speaker 4: Eight praying man s, eight bugs, eight night crawlers.

1458
01:00:51,216 --> 01:00:53,616
Speaker 3: That's drink tree ass bumpkin in you.

1459
01:00:53,736 --> 01:00:56,896
Speaker 4: So my rookie year here go cast So they would

1460
01:00:56,896 --> 01:00:59,856
Speaker 4: pay the most outrageous amount of money for anything you

1461
01:00:59,856 --> 01:01:00,216
Speaker 4: would do.

1462
01:01:00,296 --> 01:01:01,616
Speaker 3: You're saying the rookie year in the league.

1463
01:01:01,736 --> 01:01:04,416
Speaker 4: Yes, oh yeah, I'm like I was dirt broke I'm like,

1464
01:01:04,536 --> 01:01:06,296
Speaker 4: cheap as I can get. I'm like, you're gonna pay

1465
01:01:06,336 --> 01:01:09,776
Speaker 4: me ten grand to eat that? Like drink my piss? Absolutely?

1466
01:01:10,736 --> 01:01:11,216
Speaker 4: There you go.

1467
01:01:11,296 --> 01:01:13,496
Speaker 3: They're like drafting the fourth round, right, they get a

1468
01:01:13,496 --> 01:01:14,056
Speaker 3: little money.

1469
01:01:14,216 --> 01:01:16,096
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're gonna pay me that, Oh no,

1470
01:01:16,136 --> 01:01:19,136
Speaker 2: there's a like if somebody offers you ten thousand right

1471
01:01:19,136 --> 01:01:21,056
Speaker 2: off the Oh you want me to drink hotel water?

1472
01:01:21,136 --> 01:01:23,416
Speaker 4: Absolutely? You mean to eat a cot roach and let

1473
01:01:23,456 --> 01:01:24,256
Speaker 4: it run around my mouth?

1474
01:01:24,336 --> 01:01:24,896
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure.

1475
01:01:25,456 --> 01:01:27,576
Speaker 4: I lived my whole rookie year off of cash. My

1476
01:01:27,656 --> 01:01:30,296
Speaker 4: financial advisor was like, hey, do you did you lose

1477
01:01:30,336 --> 01:01:32,176
Speaker 4: your credit card or debit card. I'm like no, sir.

1478
01:01:32,256 --> 01:01:34,256
Speaker 4: He's like, you haven't spent money. I was like, oh,

1479
01:01:34,336 --> 01:01:39,456
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be broke, Guysanna, I'm gonna make this

1480
01:01:39,496 --> 01:01:41,616
Speaker 4: money last. I'm like, I'm not going back to that

1481
01:01:41,656 --> 01:01:44,696
Speaker 4: farm in Alabama. I'm gonna make this NFL money last

1482
01:01:44,776 --> 01:01:47,456
Speaker 4: a long time. Did you do well with saving your money?

1483
01:01:48,136 --> 01:01:51,016
Speaker 4: I've put it away, put it away, and now I

1484
01:01:51,016 --> 01:01:52,176
Speaker 4: get to spend a little bit, I guess. And he

1485
01:01:52,216 --> 01:01:55,216
Speaker 4: got married and then kids, and I have Amazon at

1486
01:01:55,216 --> 01:01:56,896
Speaker 4: my house every day. Yeah.

1487
01:01:56,936 --> 01:01:57,896
Speaker 3: So when did you know it was over?

1488
01:01:57,936 --> 01:02:02,376
Speaker 4: For you playing. Yeah, I think when I had three

1489
01:02:02,416 --> 01:02:05,216
Speaker 4: concussions in one year and you have to come home

1490
01:02:05,256 --> 01:02:07,576
Speaker 4: and make that, you look at your wife and kids

1491
01:02:07,616 --> 01:02:10,936
Speaker 4: and like, eh, I could probably keep doing this. Then

1492
01:02:10,976 --> 01:02:12,856
Speaker 4: I sat down with Rabel in his office and he

1493
01:02:12,976 --> 01:02:17,096
Speaker 4: was like, I can't be responsible if something happens on

1494
01:02:17,216 --> 01:02:19,096
Speaker 4: the field, And I got to call your wife because

1495
01:02:19,136 --> 01:02:20,936
Speaker 4: he loves my daughter. My daughter was always in his

1496
01:02:21,016 --> 01:02:24,856
Speaker 4: office and he was like, as your friend, like, I

1497
01:02:24,896 --> 01:02:26,376
Speaker 4: know you're going to keep playing until I have to

1498
01:02:26,456 --> 01:02:29,336
Speaker 4: drag you off this field. Like I can't be responsible.

1499
01:02:29,376 --> 01:02:31,696
Speaker 4: He's like, you need to retire. I'm like, let me

1500
01:02:31,736 --> 01:02:34,696
Speaker 4: make that decision on my own and let me train

1501
01:02:34,776 --> 01:02:37,256
Speaker 4: and figure it out. But I respected him for that,

1502
01:02:37,376 --> 01:02:39,216
Speaker 4: and that was one of the things I'm like, hey,

1503
01:02:39,256 --> 01:02:42,016
Speaker 4: somebody else is telling me this, should I really honestly

1504
01:02:42,056 --> 01:02:44,376
Speaker 4: be playing. He played for such a long time. I

1505
01:02:44,416 --> 01:02:46,296
Speaker 4: was like, is he looking out for me at this point?

1506
01:02:46,336 --> 01:02:48,376
Speaker 4: I'm like at the time, I'm like, I was just mad.

1507
01:02:48,376 --> 01:02:50,096
Speaker 4: I was like, now I want to keep playing. But

1508
01:02:50,176 --> 01:02:52,136
Speaker 4: when you think about it through those times, you're like, man,

1509
01:02:52,136 --> 01:02:52,856
Speaker 4: he's probably right.

1510
01:02:53,096 --> 01:02:55,816
Speaker 2: You were with Verbel obviously as as your head coach,

1511
01:02:55,816 --> 01:02:57,616
Speaker 2: but you're also with him in Houston. So you guys

1512
01:02:57,616 --> 01:03:01,576
Speaker 2: had a long, long relationship. And what is it about

1513
01:03:01,656 --> 01:03:03,496
Speaker 2: him that makes him such a good football coach?

1514
01:03:04,656 --> 01:03:06,856
Speaker 4: I think you can really to him. He cares about it.

1515
01:03:07,216 --> 01:03:09,136
Speaker 4: He's out there living it with you. He's out there

1516
01:03:09,136 --> 01:03:12,056
Speaker 4: at practice doing every drill with you. He's coaching you

1517
01:03:12,096 --> 01:03:14,496
Speaker 4: through it. It's not just like, oh, it's coaches players.

1518
01:03:14,896 --> 01:03:17,496
Speaker 4: He holds the coaches accountable in front of the players,

1519
01:03:17,496 --> 01:03:21,416
Speaker 4: the players accountable. It's no question that you can't ask him.

1520
01:03:21,816 --> 01:03:25,136
Speaker 4: And he's the same to everybody, like he's gonna treat

1521
01:03:25,136 --> 01:03:26,656
Speaker 4: me the same way as the other guy, and he's

1522
01:03:26,656 --> 01:03:30,096
Speaker 4: gonna rip everybody. So nobody was safe in a meeting.

1523
01:03:30,456 --> 01:03:31,696
Speaker 3: Did he also love on you?

1524
01:03:32,056 --> 01:03:35,456
Speaker 4: Absolutely, he knew. That's what you give him credit. Like

1525
01:03:36,096 --> 01:03:39,856
Speaker 4: having family at practice, having everybody there to support you.

1526
01:03:40,976 --> 01:03:43,096
Speaker 4: He knows when you're having hard times, like say when

1527
01:03:43,136 --> 01:03:45,056
Speaker 4: my granddad passed, he was like, hey, go get away

1528
01:03:45,056 --> 01:03:48,176
Speaker 4: from football, Like, go home, see your family, Like you

1529
01:03:48,216 --> 01:03:50,376
Speaker 4: can take off of ota, like, don't worry about it.

1530
01:03:50,496 --> 01:03:52,416
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I really want to be here. He's like, hey,

1531
01:03:52,456 --> 01:03:54,376
Speaker 4: he meant a lot to go home and spend some

1532
01:03:54,376 --> 01:03:56,536
Speaker 4: time with your family. So he understood stuff like that,

1533
01:03:56,696 --> 01:03:59,736
Speaker 4: or kid was in the hospital all night. He'd be like, Ben,

1534
01:04:00,056 --> 01:04:02,656
Speaker 4: you've been in the hospital for all night having slept.

1535
01:04:02,656 --> 01:04:05,016
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, how about this. I do practice, then

1536
01:04:05,056 --> 01:04:07,016
Speaker 4: I leave for meetings. He's like, sure, if you want

1537
01:04:07,016 --> 01:04:09,696
Speaker 4: to be here, that's fine. I can't technically kick you

1538
01:04:09,736 --> 01:04:11,656
Speaker 4: out of the building. But he would try to give

1539
01:04:11,696 --> 01:04:14,136
Speaker 4: you breaks and he understood that, Hey, you have a

1540
01:04:14,176 --> 01:04:16,856
Speaker 4: family at home and it's not always football.

1541
01:04:17,176 --> 01:04:18,896
Speaker 2: I know that you guys have stayed close too, and

1542
01:04:18,936 --> 01:04:21,176
Speaker 2: he's even called you and tried to get you come

1543
01:04:21,256 --> 01:04:23,336
Speaker 2: up be his old line coach. What don't you think

1544
01:04:23,336 --> 01:04:25,136
Speaker 2: you're Some of his challenges now that he takes over

1545
01:04:25,176 --> 01:04:25,856
Speaker 2: the Patriots.

1546
01:04:26,256 --> 01:04:28,976
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's to build that relationship with those

1547
01:04:28,976 --> 01:04:31,856
Speaker 4: guys because it takes time, Like you got to trust him,

1548
01:04:31,856 --> 01:04:33,896
Speaker 4: you got to you got to show them your method,

1549
01:04:34,376 --> 01:04:37,216
Speaker 4: and it takes winning to show it works, because sometimes

1550
01:04:37,216 --> 01:04:39,776
Speaker 4: you're like, man, this guy's crazy, Like this method, how

1551
01:04:39,776 --> 01:04:42,136
Speaker 4: can this work in a week in and week out?

1552
01:04:42,256 --> 01:04:44,736
Speaker 4: But it takes a group of guys believing in something,

1553
01:04:44,856 --> 01:04:46,936
Speaker 4: and once you start winning and you're like, oh, this

1554
01:04:46,936 --> 01:04:49,296
Speaker 4: this makes sense. Like he is looking out for the

1555
01:04:49,336 --> 01:04:51,576
Speaker 4: best of us. He is he is all in for this,

1556
01:04:51,776 --> 01:04:54,016
Speaker 4: so it just takes a little bit of trust and

1557
01:04:54,256 --> 01:04:55,616
Speaker 4: know he's got the best interest for you.

1558
01:04:55,856 --> 01:04:57,856
Speaker 3: What are you doing now to scratch the edge, Yeah.

1559
01:04:57,736 --> 01:05:01,536
Speaker 4: I'm coaching high school ball at Endsworth, even though he

1560
01:05:01,616 --> 01:05:05,896
Speaker 4: goes to FRA with me. H yeah, yeah, so I confused.

1561
01:05:05,896 --> 01:05:08,976
Speaker 2: So it's basically another school.

1562
01:05:08,776 --> 01:05:11,696
Speaker 3: Your dad, your daughter goes to one coaching or another. Yeah, okay,

1563
01:05:11,696 --> 01:05:12,176
Speaker 3: fair enough.

1564
01:05:12,216 --> 01:05:16,376
Speaker 4: So the reason behind that through that year off when

1565
01:05:16,416 --> 01:05:18,456
Speaker 4: I was struggling trying to figure out what's the next step,

1566
01:05:18,936 --> 01:05:21,136
Speaker 4: Tim Hauseback was the guy when that reached out to me,

1567
01:05:21,296 --> 01:05:23,576
Speaker 4: is like, hey, I know what it feels like going

1568
01:05:23,576 --> 01:05:26,656
Speaker 4: through this. You're kind of feeling lost. I know you

1569
01:05:27,096 --> 01:05:28,696
Speaker 4: still want to play and stuff. But he's like, hey,

1570
01:05:28,736 --> 01:05:30,576
Speaker 4: how about you just come out to spring practice and

1571
01:05:30,656 --> 01:05:32,736
Speaker 4: just hang out and see if this scratches the itch.

1572
01:05:33,056 --> 01:05:34,896
Speaker 4: So I literally went out to the spring practice just

1573
01:05:34,936 --> 01:05:37,256
Speaker 4: to help for six practice. I'm like, oh, it was fine.

1574
01:05:37,576 --> 01:05:39,496
Speaker 4: Didn't think I was on gett into high school football,

1575
01:05:39,656 --> 01:05:41,696
Speaker 4: went off for the summer with the family at the beach.

1576
01:05:42,256 --> 01:05:44,496
Speaker 4: Then I came back. He's like, hey, what are you doing.

1577
01:05:44,536 --> 01:05:47,656
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm back home. Kids are in school. He's like, well,

1578
01:05:47,736 --> 01:05:50,016
Speaker 4: I could really love you in the booth to help

1579
01:05:50,056 --> 01:05:52,576
Speaker 4: out on Friday nights. So I'm like, sure, I'll come

1580
01:05:52,576 --> 01:05:55,376
Speaker 4: on Friday nights to help out. Then it turned into, hey,

1581
01:05:55,456 --> 01:05:57,056
Speaker 4: you want to help with some run game and give

1582
01:05:57,136 --> 01:05:59,496
Speaker 4: us some insight on that. Now I'm there every single

1583
01:05:59,576 --> 01:06:02,256
Speaker 4: day in the box helping Matt with the run game,

1584
01:06:02,736 --> 01:06:05,296
Speaker 4: and it's just a cool dynamic. Him and his brother

1585
01:06:05,976 --> 01:06:08,536
Speaker 4: got to work with his father last year passed away

1586
01:06:08,576 --> 01:06:10,976
Speaker 4: this year, and he was like a rock for me,

1587
01:06:11,096 --> 01:06:13,336
Speaker 4: like he'd been through it. He knew you seeing a

1588
01:06:13,376 --> 01:06:16,616
Speaker 4: guy who lives a certain way, how raised his sons.

1589
01:06:16,616 --> 01:06:19,056
Speaker 4: He's out there with his grandkids and it really opened

1590
01:06:19,056 --> 01:06:21,416
Speaker 4: my eyes up to what a family looks like and

1591
01:06:21,456 --> 01:06:23,376
Speaker 4: how to do it together and do.

1592
01:06:23,376 --> 01:06:26,296
Speaker 2: It the right way. And you're also now covering. You're

1593
01:06:26,336 --> 01:06:28,856
Speaker 2: on the radio now, buddy, you're radio personality. Welcome to

1594
01:06:28,896 --> 01:06:29,656
Speaker 2: the wild side.

1595
01:06:29,816 --> 01:06:32,776
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I feel like when I played, I've stayed

1596
01:06:32,816 --> 01:06:35,336
Speaker 4: as far as possible from the media because all I

1597
01:06:35,376 --> 01:06:38,456
Speaker 4: cared about was winning, and I hated the media, Like

1598
01:06:38,496 --> 01:06:40,336
Speaker 4: I'm like all they could be is negative, like nothing

1599
01:06:40,336 --> 01:06:42,456
Speaker 4: good could come from this, Like all I care about

1600
01:06:42,496 --> 01:06:44,336
Speaker 4: is winning. I don't care about what anybody else thinks

1601
01:06:44,376 --> 01:06:46,816
Speaker 4: about me. All the people I care about was right

1602
01:06:46,856 --> 01:06:48,936
Speaker 4: here in this room. Probably would have helped a little

1603
01:06:48,976 --> 01:06:50,776
Speaker 4: bit if i'd have been They just saw this side

1604
01:06:50,776 --> 01:06:53,016
Speaker 4: of me and got to see how much I actually

1605
01:06:53,336 --> 01:06:56,176
Speaker 4: enjoyed playing the game and how much I cared about

1606
01:06:56,216 --> 01:06:57,976
Speaker 4: my teammates. But I didn't care what they thought.

1607
01:06:58,096 --> 01:07:00,616
Speaker 2: Are you finding it difficult to criticize the times now

1608
01:07:00,656 --> 01:07:02,016
Speaker 2: that a lot of people are gone, it makes a

1609
01:07:02,016 --> 01:07:02,456
Speaker 2: lot easier.

1610
01:07:02,536 --> 01:07:06,416
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you still have that passion because you don't

1611
01:07:06,456 --> 01:07:09,416
Speaker 4: know what's going on in that building. Like yes, I'm

1612
01:07:09,656 --> 01:07:13,216
Speaker 4: quicker to say, like, hey, hold somebody accountable up top,

1613
01:07:13,336 --> 01:07:15,976
Speaker 4: Like hey, I know cush Cushion Berry their center, Like

1614
01:07:16,056 --> 01:07:18,536
Speaker 4: know him as a good dude, Like I know Jeff on

1615
01:07:18,576 --> 01:07:22,136
Speaker 4: the other side, I know Luke Stock at their tight

1616
01:07:22,216 --> 01:07:24,696
Speaker 4: end coach. Like no, I'm not gonna talk bad about

1617
01:07:24,696 --> 01:07:27,336
Speaker 4: those guys. I know how hard they work, But it

1618
01:07:27,416 --> 01:07:30,336
Speaker 4: comes down to it, like you gotta win games, especially

1619
01:07:30,376 --> 01:07:32,536
Speaker 4: at the Titans, like you got you got. Something's gotta change,

1620
01:07:32,576 --> 01:07:34,176
Speaker 4: Like you can't do the same thing over and over

1621
01:07:34,536 --> 01:07:37,336
Speaker 4: and expect something different. But I hope they get on track.

1622
01:07:37,376 --> 01:07:40,176
Speaker 4: I think they got a young quarterback there that's gonna.

1623
01:07:39,936 --> 01:07:41,416
Speaker 3: Turn it around. He looked dynamic.

1624
01:07:41,976 --> 01:07:44,016
Speaker 4: I think he's special. Yeah, I think he's gonna be

1625
01:07:44,016 --> 01:07:44,576
Speaker 4: special for him.

1626
01:07:44,576 --> 01:07:46,016
Speaker 3: Well, then we really appreciate it coming by me. This

1627
01:07:46,016 --> 01:07:48,456
Speaker 3: has been awesome. I enjoyed it, all right, Ben Jones,

1628
01:07:48,456 --> 01:07:57,216
Speaker 3: thank you, Jes great appearance the man. All right, thanks

1629
01:07:57,216 --> 01:07:59,056
Speaker 3: to Ben for coming in. You know, I'm gonna read

1630
01:07:59,056 --> 01:08:02,296
Speaker 3: a social media he doesn't have one. You have one? No,

1631
01:08:02,376 --> 01:08:03,176
Speaker 3: I couldn't find anything.

1632
01:08:03,176 --> 01:08:04,336
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask Castle the same.

1633
01:08:04,616 --> 01:08:07,536
Speaker 2: Uh, he's deaf only on social media's maybe maybe he's

1634
01:08:07,536 --> 01:08:09,096
Speaker 2: got a burner account or something like that, because I

1635
01:08:09,096 --> 01:08:10,296
Speaker 2: see him scrolling.

1636
01:08:09,976 --> 01:08:13,736
Speaker 3: On that stuff. You never changed your name. I'm working

1637
01:08:13,816 --> 01:08:14,736
Speaker 3: on it. You don't have to.

1638
01:08:14,896 --> 01:08:19,776
Speaker 6: I need Tom underscore Castle sixteen. Like people don't even

1639
01:08:19,816 --> 01:08:22,536
Speaker 6: know it's you. Like if I tag you publicly, they're

1640
01:08:22,576 --> 01:08:25,096
Speaker 6: just like, I don't know who m cassol is or

1641
01:08:25,096 --> 01:08:26,816
Speaker 6: if it was a Well that's what most people think

1642
01:08:26,856 --> 01:08:27,976
Speaker 6: unless they know you. Y, that's true.

1643
01:08:29,096 --> 01:08:32,056
Speaker 3: So what was what were some of the tags? I

1644
01:08:32,096 --> 01:08:32,776
Speaker 3: need don't remember.

1645
01:08:32,816 --> 01:08:35,976
Speaker 6: It's just my advice to you, as somebody who lives

1646
01:08:35,976 --> 01:08:40,136
Speaker 6: in this space is have a social media handle, a

1647
01:08:40,256 --> 01:08:42,816
Speaker 6: name that most people will know it's you whenever they

1648
01:08:42,856 --> 01:08:45,095
Speaker 6: see it. No one knows m underscore Castle.

1649
01:08:45,856 --> 01:08:49,656
Speaker 3: Is you okay? Is it sixteen? Does you have a sixteen? Yeah? Sixteen?

1650
01:08:49,736 --> 01:08:52,176
Speaker 3: I don't know. So if I change it, does you

1651
01:08:52,176 --> 01:08:55,336
Speaker 3: don't lose any followers. Don't lose any followers. I don't

1652
01:08:55,336 --> 01:08:57,016
Speaker 3: have to get a new blue check mark.

1653
01:08:57,216 --> 01:09:00,095
Speaker 6: I would have your person do it, though, because you'll

1654
01:09:00,176 --> 01:09:03,255
Speaker 6: end up killing your whole site somehow, you'll get scammed.

1655
01:09:03,336 --> 01:09:07,256
Speaker 3: It'll all be a disaster. Yeah, there's no doubt about that.

1656
01:09:07,456 --> 01:09:09,376
Speaker 3: I have no idea what I'm doing on those things.

1657
01:09:09,456 --> 01:09:10,776
Speaker 3: Definitely have them do it.

1658
01:09:11,176 --> 01:09:13,616
Speaker 6: Yeah, but this is the last time I recommend it

1659
01:09:13,656 --> 01:09:15,056
Speaker 6: because I think you're really good at what you do,

1660
01:09:15,096 --> 01:09:18,136
Speaker 6: and I think that is an element that is being underserved.

1661
01:09:18,736 --> 01:09:21,016
Speaker 2: Thank you. You know you're looking out for me. I'm

1662
01:09:21,016 --> 01:09:23,376
Speaker 2: being I'm taking this seriously. I am, even though I'm

1663
01:09:23,376 --> 01:09:26,296
Speaker 2: smiling at you because you're making fun of my stage name.

1664
01:09:26,336 --> 01:09:33,856
Speaker 3: But I do need it whatever the it is. Come on,

1665
01:09:34,016 --> 01:09:35,896
Speaker 3: I didn't even have social media INTI like three years. No,

1666
01:09:36,016 --> 01:09:38,016
Speaker 3: I know, and that's my thing. I think some people

1667
01:09:38,016 --> 01:09:39,296
Speaker 3: would love to follow you if they knew it was

1668
01:09:39,336 --> 01:09:41,216
Speaker 3: actually you. Like when I tag you and stuff.

1669
01:09:41,256 --> 01:09:43,216
Speaker 6: Yeah, people are like, I don't know who his partner is,

1670
01:09:43,416 --> 01:09:45,215
Speaker 6: m underscore Castle.

1671
01:09:45,456 --> 01:09:50,616
Speaker 3: But if they were like, oh, Matt Castle quarterback, that's it,

1672
01:09:51,216 --> 01:09:53,016
Speaker 3: that would be cool. It makes more sense.

1673
01:09:53,296 --> 01:09:55,496
Speaker 6: Let me Matt Castle QB or something like that. Okay,

1674
01:09:56,256 --> 01:10:00,736
Speaker 6: it is available. Well you better get it again real quick. Well,

1675
01:10:00,816 --> 01:10:04,456
Speaker 6: I don't know if the have your guy do it

1676
01:10:04,776 --> 01:10:06,055
Speaker 6: and then before this post.

1677
01:10:07,576 --> 01:10:11,055
Speaker 2: Oh dangang, Oh yeah, there's charges right now, six thousand

1678
01:10:11,096 --> 01:10:12,376
Speaker 2: dollars for it so much.

1679
01:10:13,256 --> 01:10:21,736
Speaker 3: That's m Casal sixteen. That's that's Kickoff Kevin. That's Brandon

1680
01:10:21,856 --> 01:10:24,976
Speaker 3: ray On. Bobby Bones, thanks again, said them for coming by.

1681
01:10:25,016 --> 01:10:33,096
Speaker 7: We've had lots to say goodbye, buddy, lots to say

1682
01:10:33,096 --> 01:10:35,536
Speaker 7: with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of

1683
01:10:35,576 --> 01:10:37,896
Speaker 7: the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

1684
01:10:37,976 --> 01:10:42,215
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1685
01:10:42,296 --> 01:10:43,616
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