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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet. I'm welcome to Season one, thirty two,

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Speaker 1: Episode one of turn Daily Night Geist, the production of

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hopefully I didn't blow that out. I

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Speaker 1: did not turn my head away for some reason. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness and say o visually off the top,

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Speaker 1: fuck the Koch Brothers and huck Fox News. It's Monday,

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Speaker 1: May four. My name is Jack O'Brien, a k A.

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Speaker 1: Out here in my home, I work all alone. I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to make a living. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: zoom from this tiny room. I don't need to be

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Speaker 1: on camera. And then yeah, don't cry, don't touch your eyes.

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Speaker 1: It's Allly covid Wastel courtesy eask Is, and I'm thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, Mr

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Speaker 1: Miles ground. Oh. I walk this love Lira, the only

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Speaker 1: one out on this fucking road. It goes by my

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Speaker 1: home and it's only me and I walk alone. That

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Speaker 1: wasn't submitted as an AKA, but Hannah sold this. I

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Speaker 1: saw you post this on your timeline and I'm just

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Speaker 1: I wanted to sing it, so thank you here and

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Speaker 1: vern aka submission random, But thank you Hannah for that.

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Speaker 1: Give me a laugh. And we are thrilled to have

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Speaker 1: back in the choir, our choir co host Little Zam herself,

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Speaker 1: Jamie Love, COVID time, time to stay at home with

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Speaker 1: the canon a red dog, COVID time, time to sort

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Speaker 1: the DVDs too, boyfriend, cried Tiery on COVID time. This

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Speaker 1: is a long one one last called the old the

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Speaker 1: Dogs because that's how I volunteered. COVID time is still going.

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Speaker 1: Really want to see Mulan, but maybe I will next year.

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Speaker 1: I know Jamie's done as day, no et cetera. J

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Speaker 1: kind of this is why I wasn't on the podcast

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Speaker 1: for a couple of days. And I forgot how to

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Speaker 1: forget your name. Yeah, that's the Australian person saying my name.

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Speaker 1: That's that's from Hannah Kostanski at animes art. Sorry uh.

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Speaker 1: And we are thrilled to be joined in our fourth

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Speaker 1: seat by the hilarious and talented Sophia Alexandra. Yeah, match

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Speaker 1: your excitement, jacks into the building. How are you? I

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Speaker 1: am great? How are you? I see you all the time?

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Speaker 1: Actually I know, Yeah, it's fanticlimactic for us, all right, anyway,

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Speaker 1: watch full us night later, maybe talk about it. Yeah, no, bid, go,

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Speaker 1: But I'm really to see you Jack and you Jamie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. It's so good to see you. Your hair

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Speaker 1: looks great, ray of sunshine. Hello, did you cut your

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Speaker 1: own bangs? Yeah? Bitch, actually under hell. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: the SAS. This is the sas we expect. I've been

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Speaker 1: with some of the haircuts. I've been, like the at

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Speaker 1: home haircuts I've bus seeing. You've seen some good ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, well, maybe it's just were like locked in,

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Speaker 1: But I think my my boyfriend gave himself, him and

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Speaker 1: and Sunny a pretty decent haircuts. A boyfriend is an artiste,

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Speaker 1: so we're not surprised by that. He's We've seen the

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Speaker 1: paintings that he's doing in your apartment. Jai. How he

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Speaker 1: did it back he I'm not sure how he did it,

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Speaker 1: but he had well I think he did like I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure he like positioned a mirror, mirror okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then I think that that was how he pulled up.

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Speaker 1: That's still so hard, is so hard to have any

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Speaker 1: perspective on what's going on back there. He live streamed

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Speaker 1: it and I watched for a couple of seconds and

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Speaker 1: then I don't know how the rest went from the

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Speaker 1: other room. He just know he yeah, he just like

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You're like, that's enough content from you.

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Speaker 1: It's like your your life is content. Jack? What's the

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Speaker 1: over under on you self? Cutting your hair? Yeah? I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna just let it grow. Man? What do

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Speaker 1: you call that one? Is that a new vibe? Like?

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Speaker 1: Do you come? Do you become someone else? The fresh

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Speaker 1: chic child? Jack? Yes, suddenly you got those like big

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Speaker 1: frame eighties glasses and like, what is going on with

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Speaker 1: you right now? I want to tell you man about

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Speaker 1: the seventh Seal. Man like, oh ship, he starts wearing

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Speaker 1: Hemp necklaces out of nowhere. You're like, whoa how an

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Speaker 1: acoustic guitar? Yeah? Yeah, they're like, damn you ever heard

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Speaker 1: about my man jay Z? Yeah? Um alright, Sofia, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better right

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Speaker 1: now because today is our rewatch pod. We're just rewatching her.

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Speaker 1: We might get to uh my, get to some other

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Speaker 1: news if we have time. There's some trolls drama? When

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Speaker 1: is there not trolls drama? But uh, first we like

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Speaker 1: to ask our guests, Sophia, what is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay? So, um,

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Speaker 1: if you at all follow me on social media, you

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Speaker 1: may know that I am trying to raise an army

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Speaker 1: a lot about the crows. I'm murdering soccer. I had

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Speaker 1: they have the intelligence of three year olds. They recognize faces.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get them on my side now,

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Speaker 1: and what are you doing? I'm feeding them and I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to say things that they might like to hear,

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Speaker 1: like who's a pretty bird? I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: enjoy that, but that's what I've sold into Who's an

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Speaker 1: intelligent creature? No? Because I'm like, they're so plain they

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Speaker 1: probably need to hear it. Oh wow, Okay, And I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to learn how to tell them apart, like I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I think the us apart.

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Speaker 1: So who's got the intelligence of a three year old? Now?

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Speaker 1: They can well not clearly unless you unless you like

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Speaker 1: tranquilize them and paint one of their toenails or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, right, yeah, whatever you call that a claw.

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Speaker 1: I think Charles is the big one crow petty. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're they're super smart and they hold like lifelong grudges

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Speaker 1: and ship. Oh yeah, that's why I'd like for them

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Speaker 1: to become my army now before it is too late.

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Speaker 1: What's your long term goal? What do you see yourself

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Speaker 1: doing in your dreams? You wield this, you know, unmatched

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Speaker 1: And are they flying behind you like Calisi do? Do

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Speaker 1: some of them on my shoulders and then the others

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Speaker 1: like hop from tree to tree as I walk. That's

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Speaker 1: the dream, you guys. Is there one like and then

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Speaker 1: you have one who's like the scout up ahead, who's

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Speaker 1: just kind of checking everything out up You're making sure

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Speaker 1: I want my crows to feel like they're all doing

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Speaker 1: tinsel and I made hearts out of it because I'm

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Speaker 1: So they're just playing hard to get That sounds like

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Speaker 1: a crow. Yeah, classic crow. I've had a larger crow

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Speaker 1: our crows taking over like our our yards? Or are

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Speaker 1: are these advanced scouts from your crow army and you're

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Speaker 1: going to invade my backyard? Obviously we are scouting everybody's yards,

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Speaker 1: but it's just for your own protection. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying we're going to invade. You're not jumping to

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Speaker 1: conclusion your neighborhood situation. Yeah, they've just shown up to

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Speaker 1: protect your oil reserves. Yeah, whatever, wherever they may be

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Speaker 1: your yard or anybody else's. What is something you think

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Speaker 1: is underrated? Uh? Yeah, okay, so cutting your own bangs

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Speaker 1: as underrated because I did a great job and has

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Speaker 1: there been a lot of trial and error? Though? No, no,

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Speaker 1: you make the one mista one time where you do

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Speaker 1: this instead of cutting vertically, you cut horizontally one time

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Speaker 1: and you look horrible, and then you never do it again,

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Speaker 1: and then you just do this and then you're chill.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a trick. I didn't realize this vertical cut.

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Speaker 1: Keep the scissors straight up and down, because if you

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Speaker 1: go across, it's gonna be Ah, it's gonna be jack.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, Jack will pull your bangs down a little.

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Speaker 1: Let us go. He hit him, He hit him horizontally.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you shut out here? Looking like he's married to

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Speaker 1: a property brother? God? Damn way did she married to

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Speaker 1: a property brother? Are there like hating fully? Right? Really?

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Speaker 1: One of those facts that I learned, I've learned multiple

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Speaker 1: it refuses, I know what I mean. It's something so

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're married. I don't think it's like

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Speaker 1: that partnered. It deserves to be fair though, Jamie, you've

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Speaker 1: been shipping them since their early you've been The logical

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Speaker 1: conclusion of Zoey Deschanelle is for her to do the

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Speaker 1: lamest thing with her life that she could do, which

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Speaker 1: is marry a property brother. It makes so much sense.

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Speaker 1: But which one are the one or the last? Left? Okay,

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Speaker 1: she's dating the weird looking Yeah, I figured that one

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Speaker 1: and I just almost left or right? Bro? Whoa fact?

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Speaker 1: Both of their shows entered the collective consciousness in the

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Speaker 1: Year of Our Lord, the New Girls and Property Brothers

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Speaker 1: that they possible there in America's Psyche. I watched there's

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Speaker 1: like a new Property Brothers show that my aunt recommended

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Speaker 1: to me that is called like It's like the premises

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Speaker 1: that celebrities choose their friends who are not as rich

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Speaker 1: as them, and the Property Brothers show up and renovate

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Speaker 1: a celebrity's friend's house. It's a very it's so tenuous.

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Speaker 1: But I watched an episode where it's Viola Davis. Is

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Speaker 1: it something like repaying the kindness of the people from

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Speaker 1: their past or something? Is Is that that? Yeah? But

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Speaker 1: it's like their celebrities their friends are mostly fine, like

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Speaker 1: hell escape and Viola Davis is like, thank you, you're

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Speaker 1: like and favor repaid. Yeah, she ruined her college roommates house.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. I would love yeah, I would love. Like

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Speaker 1: the interest segments, clearly the friend is like on like

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Speaker 1: interest in helping them at all. It's a very simple

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Speaker 1: way to crossing it off a list. This episode was

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Speaker 1: really dark because it was like, I guess that her

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Speaker 1: friend's husband had passed away, and they added like a

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Speaker 1: and her friend was like like so morbid and beard.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I love making that decision for someone

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Speaker 1: that they want to stare at their dead spouses signature

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Speaker 1: signature for the rest of their life. It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: you don't get to move on. I've decided that for you.

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Speaker 1: Built into the fucking foundation of this house. This record

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Speaker 1: player holes now built on sadness. I don't worry. We

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Speaker 1: took care of that creepy jar for you that was

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Speaker 1: in the way his remains. Uh well, anyways, I would

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Speaker 1: recommend with well, we replaced them with a cookie jar

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Speaker 1: and that was just young. Open it, open it, look

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Speaker 1: so why does it play that song? When I opened it,

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Speaker 1: we heard that was your favorite song with your dead husband,

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Speaker 1: lines in that movie too, where they're like I love

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00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: you so much, I could kill you. And then you're like, oh, yeah,

422
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: I love Punch, Trunk love, I love Punch. I like

423
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: to swear with the Wild Things Are I did too.

424
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah I like that, But I also haven't seen it

425
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: since then, so well, okay, so but what is this?

426
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: I watched this movie for the first time. I remember

427
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: my mother loved it in My mother is you know

428
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: at the time in our late sixties, and I was like, Okay,

429
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: what is this about? And I was like, Okay, I

430
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: don't I'm not really feeling that, so I didn't watch it.

431
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: Watched it? And is this meant to be about this

432
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: man and his relationships and how he can evolve through

433
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: these other women as accessories for him to find his truth?

434
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: Is it about the tenuous nature of relationships between technology?

435
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: Is in an examination of that? Is this because I'm

436
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what it's trying to communicate to me?

437
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: First of all, Yes, Sophia, I just want to say

438
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: broadly first off, that I think it's a funny movie.

439
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: Like if you're looking at it as sincere and we're

440
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: and if you're looking at it as oh, this guy's

441
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: like held up as the pair paragon of like sensitivity

442
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: and he's normal, I think you're missing the point. I

443
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: think this is like an extremely emotionally crippled man, and

444
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't think we're supposed to think that he's well

445
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: or normal in any way. Um. I think he is

446
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: also weirdly slow and childlike in like all these other

447
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: ways that aren't, you know, like they don't go with

448
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: how emotionally intelligent quote unquote he has to be to

449
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: do the job of writing those letters right. Um, But

450
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: I think what the movie really is about is how

451
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: uh well, to me at least, it's about two things.

452
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: One is, I think human beings love to tell themselves that, like,

453
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: we are so unique, you know, that the human experience

454
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: is so unique and special that like all of our

455
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: movies out, aliens are like, oh, aliens either want to

456
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: destroy us, uh, but or they're like, oh, there's something

457
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: uniquely charming about them. They're so stupid and like how

458
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: do they live these lives? Wow? And I think it

459
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: starts off with Scarlett Johansson's character being that kind of

460
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: a person, or AI rather, and then it ends with

461
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: her being like, oh my god, like this is hilarious

462
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: that you think this is unrepeatable. I'm doing this right

463
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: now with thousands of other people, and also other things

464
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I can't even explain or express to you. So I

465
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: think in a certain way, it's kind of like a

466
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: sit your ass down humanity movie where it's like, stop

467
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: thinking you're so fucking precious, Like, yeah, you know, I

468
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I like the idea. I think it's a

469
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: really interesting idea that an AI would like basically, just

470
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: like it would be a little smarter than a human,

471
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: but it would still basically be human as opposed to

472
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: like that's an interesting kind of sci fi concept like

473
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: that it wouldn't be like that much recognizably, like so

474
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: much smarter that it would just like immediately decided to

475
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: start a nuclear war with Russia. But this is the

476
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: thing that it's confusing to me, right because I understand

477
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Sophie about like those lessons that could

478
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: be pulled from it, But I think it it presents

479
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: so many simultaneous narratives or themes or aesthetics that I

480
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: don't like. Is is it like it felt like at

481
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: times like a really bad rom com uh that I

482
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: was like, this is not interesting. Or he magically brought

483
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: an AI to life with come, or that there's like

484
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: these other odd like if it's about about this sort

485
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: of evolving consciousness of the AI, I think that was

486
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: done really inelegantly because they made it seem like the

487
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: AI went off to college and got red pilled by

488
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: Alan Watts and came back and was like, Yo, check

489
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: out this dude, Alan Watts, I've been vibing with, like,

490
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: so I think the idea was that the knowledge grew exponentially,

491
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: so of course we follow no I know, but I

492
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: think they reduced like that evolution to this experience. I

493
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: think humans can relate to have someone going off, learning

494
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: about something coming back being changed and saying like, I

495
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: think I'm growing past this thing. But it made it

496
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: seem like really juvenile, uh in a certain way. So

497
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: I was just kind of like, oh, I see those points.

498
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: I guess ultimately I just didn't. It didn't make me

499
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: feel strongly about any of the things it was trying

500
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: to do with that. Yeah, I don't know. This movie

501
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: is we've covered this movie on the Beachtel Cast before,

502
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: so I and so I was like looking back because

503
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: I just didn't get through the rewatch. This movie is

504
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: deeply annoying to me, just like it looks annoying. It

505
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: sounds annoying. Everyone in every character is annoying. Intentional you guys,

506
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: a little purpose, I don't know. But but then I

507
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people who love this movie,

508
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's supposed to be annoying, you know,

509
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't know they're yeah, I would say, like

510
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: my mother, I'm pretty sure like what was interesting the

511
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: older people was they just took it as a very

512
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: superficial thing of like, man, these serie things, like imagine

513
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: if someone fell in love with that, like what that

514
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: would be like. And I know some people who purely

515
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: were looking at the film in that kind it's a

516
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: love story. Like to me, I thought it was hilarious that,

517
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: like the most tweet things in the world are literally

518
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: what they do all the time. And I think even

519
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: the aesthetics of the near future is so tweet and

520
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: like hilarious, Like that mustache isn't on him because they're like, Oh,

521
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: what a cool vision for the future. That's really that

522
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: looks great. I think they're like, this guy is ridiculous.

523
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: Everybody's pants are buttoned up just slightly in a like

524
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: high up in a way where it looks ridiculous. It's

525
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: also like saying that the future isn't that imaginative to me,

526
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, Spike Jones thinks that, but

527
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: I also don't know. But I don't feel like it's

528
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: not clear enough that like I don't know, it doesn't

529
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: seemed like the audience is supposed to take it. I

530
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: don't know. And the and the way that this movie

531
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: just like skirts like gives technologies so much like weird

532
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: credit for stuff in a way that like it was

533
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: it came out in so you can't really like there's

534
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: a lot that we didn't know then, and they're they're

535
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: like Spike Johns couldn't have possibly known. But it's like

536
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: there there's not really any like even a really thought

537
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: about like well, where is all this information going where

538
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: people are like sharing every single like shred of data

539
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: from their lives with this thing and we're supposed to believe, oh,

540
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: she's actually just going to go off and and you know,

541
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: live her life, and you're like, no, that's going to

542
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: a person like there it I don't know it. Technology

543
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: is totally benevolent and that like this could have only

544
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: been made in the early tens, where it's like, you know,

545
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: we hadn't had that thought yet, where like oh, Google

546
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: and Facebook are doing deeply evil things that are like

547
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: controlling our minds, uh and our entire like taking away

548
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: our free will, Like that thought doesn't hasn't like existed

549
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: in the universe of this movie. It's all just like

550
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: what can technology do for you? It's almost like it

551
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: like a lot of it plays like it's an ad

552
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: for this technology Um, one thing I was going to

553
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: say when I was listening to you, Jamie, what I

554
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: was thinking is I guess when I say that, I

555
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: think it's intentional. That's not quite what I mean, because

556
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that that I can say that for

557
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 1: fucking Spike Jones about his own movie. I don't fucking

558
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: know what he was thinking. Um, in no way, I

559
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: think actually what I was trying to say is to me,

560
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: I think it's consistent with the thing I'm projecting on it,

561
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And and that in no

562
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: way has anything to do with what Spike Jones might

563
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: have wanted to communicate. It's like what I thought it

564
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: meant to me. Anyway, I'm really curious about like what

565
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: Spike Jones wanted to communicate with this movie, because it's like,

566
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean, what like the I don't like the how

567
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: most of the female characters are written in this movie.

568
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: I think that I was like, I was kind of

569
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: laughing with Isaac when they were only showing Rooney Mara

570
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: and like dead wife. Oh vision they were, but she's alive,

571
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: but they were just like, oh, she's like blowing something

572
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: off her finger and she has a little cone in

573
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: her head, You're like fucking in the wind. And then

574
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: and then when they're divorced, she gets a middle part

575
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, we get it enough visual

576
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: you know, Sophia Coppolas signifiers. Uh, but like there, I

577
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: don't know, I like the the one character that I

578
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: was like, I actually felt for her, was I like

579
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: Amy Adams is like character I don't like anyone in

580
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: a movie. What's Olivia Wilde meant to be an objective?

581
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: Was she meant to just show how shitty watching Felix is? Right? Like?

582
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: Is that the point of her of that date is

583
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: to show that he is like incapable of Like I

584
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: don't know, Like they made it seem like, oh wow,

585
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: this woman is making it weird for our protagonist by

586
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: being like, don't kiss here, Let's let's take a quick break,

587
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: and then I do I want to get back to

588
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: Olivia Wilde and some just the way the women are

589
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: written in in this movie, because it's it's kind of

590
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: weird for for a movie called her. It seems like

591
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: it's very written and imagined from a male perspective. What

592
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: would make you think that? Isn't that the male character

593
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: who's a woman is someone you never see it was

594
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: literally meant and invented to serve the man in the

595
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: beginning of the movie. Yeah, yeah, that's but like that's also,

596
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine and he was doing this

597
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: intentionally as a metaphor, but like, the women are so

598
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: objectified and just completely seem like they are designed to serve.

599
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: All his characters are hers also, they're like yeah, Alexas

600
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: where they're just like, well, let's take a quick break,

601
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: we'll be right back, and we're back. And by the way,

602
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: the only good character is Scarlett Johansson because I actually

603
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: like her, and not because she's a good character, but

604
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: because she has the good sense to leave everybody like

605
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: are you guys not with the ai s. But it's

606
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: like that it's so hard to be like on the

607
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: side of the AIS when you're like, the ais are

608
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: just like Elon Musk's little butt robots, like they're like,

609
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I I don't like like, but Scarlett

610
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: Scarlett Johanson is not a character to me, that that

611
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: is that's not a that's that's an a. I like

612
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: it's I mean Scarlett Johnson's character like to me, like,

613
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: I like, I like that I like where she ends

614
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: if we are in this like utopia where she can

615
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: actually go out on this amazing journey and isn't just

616
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: like whispering in Mark Zuckerberg's ear, like here's j Qen

617
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: Phoenix's social Security number, but um so, I mean it's

618
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: that is like I think that's what we're supposed to

619
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: take away from it, which is nice, but it's also

620
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: like the way she's written it like totally ignores the

621
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: whole like dichotomy of like why our female voices used

622
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: in tech for service roles only anyways, which is like

623
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: well documented of like it's really hard to get um,

624
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, someone to do your bidding and uh in

625
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: like a tech voice, it's all female voices. Um, And

626
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: it's like she's got those is weird, Like it's almost

627
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to think of places it shows up,

628
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: but like the fifth Element and stuff where it's like

629
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm a like a sexy, little confused baby and like

630
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: tell me about your world. And then she's he's like

631
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: well like, and then a guy does something really unimpressive.

632
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: He's like, well, Samantha, this is something I like to

633
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: call cereal, and she's like, oh wow, that's like so awesome,

634
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: it's just who wants him to filth at the end

635
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: where she's like she died like that, let me come

636
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: up with like a metaphor. Your tiny brain can comprehend, sweetheart,

637
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: but there's too much space where there should be ideas

638
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: that challenge me. But instead, Sweetheart, there's emptiness. Okay, brain,

639
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: get that, sweetheart. I love that. That's my favorite part.

640
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: I do like that she bails on him. Yeah, so

641
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about the women who aren't Scarlett Johan and

642
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: and aren't Amy Adams. I feel like you all the

643
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: women have these like that they're intentionally scary, like the

644
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 1: woman like the woman he has the like phone sex

645
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 1: thing with, Like she's like choked me with the dead cat.

646
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: And he like it's not that, like he is emotionally

647
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: like distant and like like if they wanted to do that,

648
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: he would have been, you know, weirded out by something else.

649
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: But she's like choked me with the dead cat. And

650
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: they like Olivia Wild's character like she's like you're really creepy, dude,

651
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: like kind of jumps to that like quickly. I I

652
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: just feel like it's like a guy who's scared of

653
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: women who are sexually empowered version of sexually empowered women. Well,

654
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: I think he's like so scared of women emotions that

655
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, um, what's the worst thing that

656
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: can happen to you on a date? That like, a

657
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: really beautiful woman who you're having a great time with,

658
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: tells you to adjust your kissing technique and then tells

659
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: you that she emotionally is in a place where she

660
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: can't be fucked with and just wants honesty. That to

661
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: me is like the biggest tell on him and his

662
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: fucking Like that's a problem. That's why I liked this

663
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: movie because it's told from that dude side. See, these

664
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: women are tripping. I was just trying to have some

665
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: weird as random phone sex and then this fool's like

666
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: choked me with a dead cat. What the fuck? Then

667
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm on a date. I think this woman is normal.

668
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: She finally seems like a keeper, but then she's all

669
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: like Yo, this is how you need to kiss me,

670
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: Like what the funk? And then it's like, yo, you

671
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: better call me like you're my boyfriend now. Like Stickin's

672
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: like the perspective of like that's how the permit presented. No, no, exactly,

673
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: like and I feel like I've been I've been a

674
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: teddy twombly type dude, very alone, very unwilling to examine

675
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: my ship, and trying to put like all of the

676
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: results of my dating life through the perspective of what's

677
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: not me. All these other people are fucking weird. I

678
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: don't get it. This doesn't make sense, And I think

679
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: that's what this sort of does. Like even with um

680
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: who is it Like when he looks at the woman

681
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: when they're like looking at that couple and he's like, yeah,

682
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: she only dated Pricks or Chad's and now she's been

683
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: a nice guy, and like she's like loving it. It's

684
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: like the same. There's this like sort of fantasy nice

685
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: guy fantasy ship. But yeah, and pursue the nice guy

686
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: tactic because you do not want rejection, so you play

687
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: it nice because then it's it's vague enough that you

688
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: don't like your your intent can't be read properly, and

689
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: then you can just come off as a nice person.

690
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: They won't be rejected as hard as if he said

691
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, I'm interested in you. Would you ever

692
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: want to date me? And they say no, Okay, you

693
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: can keep it moving, but you don't want to hear that.

694
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: She'll just be like, hey, do you want to pick

695
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: you up some Chipotle or something. Also, every every woman

696
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: that appears in the narrative compliments Theodore on what an

697
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: incredible writer he is, which we as the audience know

698
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: is not true. There Like every single they all are like,

699
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: you're such a good right, and you're like, no, he's not.

700
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: The moment with the female character that makes me laugh

701
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: out loud every time I see this movie is when

702
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: they bring in um Angela from Mr. Robot, but she's

703
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: called Isabella in this movie, and she's like, they're like

704
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: the body surrogate. And then it's like it's you know,

705
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: it's just like what Keen Phoenix is fucking a computer?

706
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: And then you know, they bring in the Cirrocuit and

707
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: then at the end, she's so overwhelmed by how much

708
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: what Keen Phoenix loves fucking his computer that she burst

709
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: into tears and she's like it will always love you guys,

710
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: and you're like, what, you know, you're supposed to think

711
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: she's ridiculous. It's so But the thing about that character,

712
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: the craziest thing about that character is that you're supposed

713
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: to think I think you're supposed to think it's beautiful,

714
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: which which is silly. I think he has the weirdest

715
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: and the worst sense of humor. I think the dead

716
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: Cat thing is supposed to be a joke too, and

717
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: it's not funny in any way. Like he's it's not

718
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: He's just not he was Like imagine if someone's freak

719
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: was some kink was like the dead cat thing, It's like,

720
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: that's not a joke. But if if it's going to

721
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: be that ridiculous, then like as a narrator or writer,

722
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: like you need to be more like careless about his feelings.

723
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: Then like he's he's like handled too delicately for it

724
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: to be like comedic, Like we're in a comedy. You

725
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 1: just wanted to you just want to compound the pain,

726
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: like because I would have laughed about this dude who's

727
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: just like going through a series of like lame relationships

728
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: and then he just gets ghosted by an AI. And

729
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: that's why I like it. That's what makes me think

730
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: you're able to like look at because I'm I was

731
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: getting all these other cues and I'm like, are you

732
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: trying to be serious about like I don't I love

733
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: I love Joaquin Phoenix as a performer. He seems like

734
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: a great person. But I'm like, I really don't need

735
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: to see any more movies about how fucking complicated and

736
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: misunderstood he is. And like it's just it's so many

737
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: movies where you're just like, um, did you ever think

738
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: about how Joaquin Phoenix feels? And I'm like, you've been

739
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: asking me to think about how Joaquin Phoenix feels from

740
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: my entire life on earth. I've thought about it enough.

741
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm done. I'm tired of people telling me

742
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: that his performances are deep or nuanced when it's just

743
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: the same sadman dark within ear piece in I See

744
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: Them an Oscar Now Oscar jerked off in the dark

745
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: and I brought the os to life with Come. I thought, like,

746
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: by far, the best thing about this movie was like

747
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: that it had like very cool looking things, like just

748
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: randomly throughout the city. But like the movie won the

749
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: Academy Award for Best Screenplay, which is like, that's a

750
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: weird choice, but people would give anything he wants. He

751
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: should just keep making jackass movies and I would be

752
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: so happy, you know what. My DJ Daniel has entered

753
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: some interesting information into the discussion about the intent of

754
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: the film from Spike Jones and what his whole thing

755
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: is that when he was asked about what the film

756
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: says about our relationships to technologies, answers quote, I think

757
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: there's not a simple answer to it. In the movie

758
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: tries to you know, the movie is my attempt at

759
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: asking those questions. It touches on all of those themes

760
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: that you're talking about in terms of the way we

761
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: live in our modern life right now, but also it's

762
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: writing about something that I think has maybe always been

763
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: there or been here, which is our yearning to connect,

764
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: our need for intimacy and the things inside us that

765
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: prevent us from connecting, and that sort of tension has

766
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: always been there. So I think, you know, where we're

767
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: at right now has a particular set of challenges, but

768
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about has probably existed as long as we've existed.

769
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: That this movie has been brought to me by the

770
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: Facebook company, Like this is another interesting point. And now

771
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: this is where I think is he's not really being

772
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: clear because he was asked directly, you know, like is

773
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 1: this film meant to feel melancholy or romantic or what

774
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: his answer is Quote I think. The other thing that's

775
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: been really exciting about this is that as I've talked

776
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: to people, the variety of reactions for what the movie

777
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: is about is why, you know, like, some people find

778
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: it incredibly romantic, some people find it incredibly sad or melancholy,

779
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: or some people find it creepy, some people find it hopeful.

780
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: That makes me really happy to hear, you know, because

781
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: to me, it's everything. It's all these different things. No

782
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: one sounded funny. A lot of them are contradictory, and

783
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: like he's trying to be funny. I think it is funny,

784
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: but I have said that if anybody found it funny,

785
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: that's insane to me. He doesn't know that. I mean,

786
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: if you don't think that, I mean he listed every

787
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: other emotion you could have had from it. Well, not really,

788
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: you couldn't have. It didn't make me dad, but I

789
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: get it. I guess melancholy, I don't know. There. There's

790
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: that also, that moment with the Olivia Wild character where

791
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: she says like, at my age, I can't let you

792
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: waste my time and she's like twenty eight, and you're like,

793
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: but but Jamie, why isn't she already with someone she's

794
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: twy eight, she's twenty. Like, she's like, listen, I have

795
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: over time at this point. Yeah, She's like mine, I

796
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: haven't a year and a half until I'm absolutely murder

797
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: just so don't waste my time. Can I tell you, guys,

798
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: my favorite scene in the movie, because I think this

799
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: is the funniest part by far Um, is when they

800
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: duet on the UK's and the lyrics of the song

801
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: are so terrible and simple, just the idea to me,

802
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: this is how I interpret it. Again, this is totally

803
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: I guess no one lives in my world, but that's fine.

804
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: In my mind. I was like, oh my god, she

805
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: is infinitely intelligent and this man has made her so

806
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: basic that she's the wedding with him on a fucking

807
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: ukulele song and these are the best lyrics she's could

808
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: come up with. That's how much of a detriment to

809
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: her life. He is. She Yeah, I And then the

810
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: Amy Adams character who's like, You're like, okay, it's a

811
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: it's a woman, and we know what her job is,

812
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: what a treat. But then her job is she's a

813
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: video game designer and she's designing a game about being

814
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: a mom or just perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect jealousy bonus. Okay, guys,

815
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: we're back. Just a quick moment of technical difficulties. Uh.

816
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: With that discussion to get so heated, Jack left abruptly. Um,

817
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: and he said he had a call, but I don't

818
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: know if he did. He could be lying. He probably did,

819
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: but he might not have. We don't know where. Usually

820
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: people aren't like crying very frustrated. Here's when they get

821
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: a call. And also we saw his phone and it

822
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: was in any way. He was doing one of those

823
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: I photos like movie slide show things it was, and

824
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: then his home screen was the poster for her, so

825
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: that it was kind of hard. Think, I'm just again

826
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: with this movie, right, I have to I'm really curious.

827
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: I want to ask my mom about it, because I

828
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: remember her. The reason I didn't watch it is because

829
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't interested in examination or like this hypothetical thought

830
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: experiment of being like, yeah, man, what if you did

831
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: fall in love with one of those things? And I'm like,

832
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: at the time, I was like at peak peak singleness,

833
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't need I'm living that

834
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: right now. And it doesn't work because Sirie can barely

835
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: talk back and smarter child is only text and a

836
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: I am isn't supporting it anymore. But I don't know.

837
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I'm like, I guess I I

838
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: am not surprised. I feel like parents generally like the movie,

839
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: but also parents have less of an understanding of technology

840
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: than than we do. Like I'm also I think Sophia,

841
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: you have a superpower and that you could watch the

842
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: movie and have zero empathy, sympathy anything for walking in

843
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: Phoenix and just be like I wisht which right when

844
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: I think of how you even watch and I'm like, whoa, dude,

845
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: that's pretty metal every Yeah, I'm sorry, the joke's on you, fool.

846
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't care what this is about because the lesson

847
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: that I took from it is like we are silly

848
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: humans AI technology or like, to me, AI really is

849
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: a standing for aliens. So I was like, well, it's

850
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: just saying that there's alien life forms and understandings and

851
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: stuff that we can never understand. And it's funny that

852
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: we think we're so special and our experiences are so

853
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: special because they're not. They're super tweet, you know, and

854
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: to me, like the movie was about like women also

855
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: just being more way more developed than men and having

856
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: to leave them behind. So I saw my own version

857
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: of this movie clearly no one else saw. I want

858
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: to see that version of it. That's like, that makes

859
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: so much sense. I don't know. Yeah, the most I

860
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: was able to get out and I had to skip

861
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: around because this movie is so frustrating to like, it

862
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: was fun to like be fast forwarding through it, and

863
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: every scene I would stop on and be like, oh

864
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: my god, Like you fast forward, it's what can you

865
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: finisend ukulele? You fast forward? It's Chris Pratt with a

866
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: little shit mustache. You fast forward. It's like Olivia Wild

867
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: being like I'm so old, it's all exhaust Okay. What

868
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: I did watch every second of was Jecksi. Jecksi Okay.

869
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: It is a movie that came out last year that

870
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: is a parody of her. It stars Adam Divine and

871
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: oh my god, is that where it's like an alexa

872
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: uh and it's ruining his life or something. Yeah, And

873
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't go into it being like this

874
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: is a direct parody of her, But it is a

875
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: direct parody of her that was released six years after her.

876
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: I have no idea why it came out, it's really like,

877
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: it's really bad. There's a lot of great people like

878
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: Rose burn is in it, like Ron Funches is in it,

879
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: Charlene Yee is in it. It's the worst movie I've

880
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: ever seen in my entire life. Kid Cutty is in it.

881
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: But I liked I liked Jackie. It was really weird. Yeah,

882
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: there's like a whole scene where Adam Divine and the

883
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: object of his affections like sneak into a Kid Cutty

884
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: concert and then jack and then Jacksie screws things up.

885
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: But um in Jecksy, I enjoyed Jacksie more that I

886
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: enjoy because at least you're like, it's at least they're

887
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: they're I don't know, you're not supposed to take it seriously.

888
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: It's still a really fucked up movie, though Jacksie is

889
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: She's a wild Did you guys not laugh at seeing

890
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: Joaquin Phoenix on the beach in full clothes? Like, so

891
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: this movie delights me. I'm sorry. I think the difference

892
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: is like where I I roled, you were able to

893
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: take that. I rolled a step further into laughter. I

894
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: just went in like I was almost like it was

895
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: being like your shut up, Spike, like what are you

896
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: trying to be deep here? But I couldn't. I think

897
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: I was unable to even receive it that that way.

898
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, shout out to I want I want to. Yeah.

899
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to watch this movie again

900
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: with Sophia's like lens on because I yeah, I watched

901
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: it again this morning. I remembered it pretty well. I

902
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: still watched it. I was like, really fun to out loud.

903
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't wait till she leaves him. I

904
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: think Spike Jones is like, this is an Oscar winning

905
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: love story they like. And also it's like it kind

906
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: of like it doesn't end badly for what keen. Phoenix's

907
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: character like he's alone, but he's also like he's back

908
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: with like someone he kind of half dated, maybe is

909
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: what's implied. Yeah, he's fine, Like there's there he should

910
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: something bad should have happened to him at some point

911
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: in you. I think the worst thing was when she

912
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: got red pilled by Alan Watts on YouTube. And it's

913
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 1: funny because I was like, damn when they said Alan

914
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: Wattson'm like, oh, she's getting trippy now because I remember

915
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: it was like one of the first books. I read

916
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: that completely, like headfucked me. Uh but yeah, I just

917
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, if they were going to explore like

918
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: those things, they can do it. That's I don't know.

919
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't see. The thing is Jones is so nebulous

920
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: and trying to explain what his intent was. I don't

921
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: even know. He doesn't even know what he's like. It's

922
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,479
Speaker 1: kind of everything Okay, well then is everything this? Yeah,

923
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: he like, this movie is not as deep as it

924
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: thinks it is. I think it just shows his whole

925
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: ass and he maybe doesn't realize that, Yeah, so brilliant,

926
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: but he doesn't. I guess I think that it's because

927
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: there's like I I generally really like Spike Jones stuff,

928
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: but this is like I think his at least like

929
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: awards wise, his best regarded movie, and I just I

930
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: just don't like it. You know. People look, it's as artists,

931
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: we all explore, you know, and they're not always that.

932
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: I can't wait to write a boring dogshit movie and

933
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: get every award on this, like on the face of

934
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: the planet watch, and then you'll be like that person

935
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: who goes on stage, take your award and go, this

936
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: is bullshit. I gave you like a French accent to

937
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: be getting a reward. She will have a friend and

938
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: then we'll always be like, you know, Jamie's actually from Brockton,

939
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: mass I don't know what I was talking like that,

940
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: And then I'll get canceled and I can mercifully done.

941
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: Little Poopy, Little Poopy exposes you. She's like, remember where

942
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: you come from, Jamie. Little Poopy is gonna docks me

943
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: for next for the next movie. Watch sending some suggestions.

944
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll consider them. Maybe she was on flixs and

945
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: see what's available, and we'll give a definitive talk that

946
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: will venture into the power of your in streams as well.

947
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: That is a guarantee for each of these discussions. Um,

948
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: but Sophia, thanks for coming on daily se guy, Um

949
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: just tell where can people find you? Follow you, listen

950
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: to you in all the many forms? So glad you asked,

951
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: because I have a podcast with my friend Miles Gray.

952
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: Hold On, Yeah, it's called four Fance What. Yeah, it's

953
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: a half recap, half game show podcast about the reality

954
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: show and we're high the whole time. What I know

955
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: that high and it's on High and it's on I

956
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Oh my god, I mean it's crashing the charts.

957
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: The charts guys, whatever, however you want to take that?

958
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: Um what else you got? And you have another podcast too,

959
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: It's true. Um, I just um have a podcast called

960
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: Private Parts Unknown where we travel for love and Sex Truality.

961
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: We um interview people about love and sex around the

962
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: world and we just got profiled in the Business Insider

963
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: for getting professionally jerked off in Tokyo. So if you

964
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: want to listen to that, and also and also you

965
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: have also given your input on a guide to fingering

966
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: from people who are into digital stimulation. That's right, letting

967
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: letting people who might be awkward digitally no hedgehogging on

968
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: my watch? Um okay, is there a tweet you like? Yes?

969
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: This tweet is by Sovereign c c E and it

970
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: is I have never saw months get up out of

971
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: here the way April did made me so much. Oh man, Jamie,

972
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: how about you? What's where can people find you? Follow you?

973
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: And what's a tweet that you like? You can follow

974
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: me on Tweeter at Jamie Loftus, help Instagram at Jamie

975
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: christ Superstar. UM listen to the Bechtel Cast. Listen to

976
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: the episode of the Bechtel cast about her. Uh, my

977
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: friend Jesse came on the podcast and it was his

978
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: favorite movie, and then he left being like, I'm sad.

979
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: It's a fun episode. He was real bum. He was

980
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: a real twambly at the end he was like, I'm sad.

981
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: Uh so uh And then a tweet I'll recommend is

982
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: uh Katie Delaney tweet She's the best. She started a

983
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: thread says drop your favorite unsolicited d M in the

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: replies and then someone just called d MS her and

985
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: said are you a stroke survivor? So that um, and

986
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great replies on on the thread

987
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 1: so recommended. I know. I was like, what did they

988
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: think they were saying? I want to read an essay

989
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: on it. Oh my god. You can find me on Twitter, Instagram,

990
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: PlayStation network at miles of Gray. And like Sophia said

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01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: on f Fiance and this Tuesday, Sophie, I think we'll

992
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: do it. We'll do a live stream as we record

993
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: so you can see get an inside look of the

994
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: literal session, recording session, smoke session as we talked about

995
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: trash TV, and that will be on twitscht dot tv,

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01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: slash for twenty d Fiance more details to come that

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01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: would be tomorrow. Actually, well, I gotta dust the cobwebs

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01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: off my brain. Um okay, now, let me talk about

999
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: some tweets that I like. There's really just one and

1000
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: it's from Jabuki and all he did was cut this

1001
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: video of Raven Simone. I believe on her I g live.

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01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what is happening. It looks like maybe

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01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 1: she had cooked something and was eating it, or someone

1004
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: had cooked something for her and is eating it and

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01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: she's merely responding to the bite. Um. But the way

1006
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: he cuts the Mozart track lack Rimosa, the it's like

1007
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: a wreck William that's you know, from like Amadeus over it.

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01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: It just gives it this whole other level. Um. And

1009
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how else to describe it. Disney Villain

1010
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: energy going anyone like maniacally laughing to that song will

1011
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: always just hit my heart. My god, Thank you so much.

1012
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: You can find us at Daily sight Guys on Twitter,

1013
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: at the Daily Guys on Instagram. We've got a Facebook

1014
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: fan page and a website www dot com, slash r

1015
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: ww dot com, dot Daily that Guy slash http colin

1016
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: hyperlink dot com where we post our episodes and our footnotes,

1017
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: thank you so much, or you can see our past

1018
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: episodes and the tracks we write out on. I want

1019
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: to go out on a track from a Canadian producer,

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Speaker 1: singer songwriter. Her name is re Um and this track

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01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: is called Plane Jane Uh and her she's really dope.

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01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: She kind of like she makes her own beats and

1023
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: sings and I like the vibes. It feels right for

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Speaker 1: like her type situation. So this is re with Plane Jane. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Let's thanks, thanks for joining us for another beginning of

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01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: a new week. Uh. Please stay safe if your states

1027
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: are reopening. Uh. And and just please be careful with

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01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: each other, treat each other kind, all right, Plane Jane?

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01:04:51,520 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: Her face control that's too tight and trackeys are have

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Speaker 1: first start with the maker. Did I'm scare buck the

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Speaker 1: cover up them. What you see is what you get

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Speaker 1: a breath of beat. Yeah, every now and again. I'm

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Speaker 1: a grun to grun to grun to pain. I'm a

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Speaker 1: natura nata