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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: It's a skeleton crew here to say the least. Who

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Speaker 4: had Paul Perolla be in? One of the only ones

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Speaker 4: in at this time of year?

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Speaker 5: Jun is their highest paid player.

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Speaker 4: I worry you. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'm such a draft nerd that like I kind.

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Speaker 4: Of know everybody. No, no one's ever been on the

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Speaker 4: training Taylor Strong and Kevin Harris, like.

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Speaker 5: We had a fire alarm at our apartment at two

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Speaker 5: thirty in this morning.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just jinks.

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Speaker 5: I do have some emails watch it what watch you

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Speaker 5: read song to say that, like the movie itself isn't great, Like,

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Speaker 5: oh no, it's a great piece of cinema history.

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Speaker 3: It's a great movie.

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Speaker 4: It's a great like this is No, it doesn't hold.

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Speaker 4: I was listen.

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Speaker 5: I was young when I saw Jaws for the first time.

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Speaker 4: And will we have a Catch twenty two through ya?

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Speaker 4: You go, oh, so that's a special treat because he's

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Speaker 4: smart enough to know that I do not listen to

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Speaker 4: Catch twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Wow, this is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 5: That show sounded a lot more off the rails listening

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Speaker 5: back to it than it like. I felt like we

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Speaker 5: did a good job.

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Speaker 4: I do too, and I totally agree.

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Speaker 5: Hey, and now that we listen back to the open,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, what were we talking about?

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Speaker 3: Alarms, drills, you name it.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot.

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Speaker 2: Are talking about Jaws?

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Speaker 3: Of course, I mean, it's it's the season.

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Speaker 5: Is it an off season show, Well, it's a it's

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Speaker 5: not a skeleton crew. Today we got Alex, got Matista,

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Speaker 5: we got Paul, and you got me Evan in the

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Speaker 5: host chair.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how I feel about this, yet I

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Speaker 4: feel great about it.

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Speaker 2: Evan actually has the facilitate conversation.

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Speaker 5: I can't just take over conversations, so I'm gonna have

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Speaker 5: to I'm gonna have to allow you guys to do

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Speaker 5: the talking today. But I feel like the Patriots did

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Speaker 5: us a service by making this news last night with

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Speaker 5: Devonte Parker's contract extension, because now we have something to

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Speaker 5: talk about that is that isn't Jaws in traffic and

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Speaker 5: you know, Boston stop lights, and we'll get to that.

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Speaker 5: We'll get to that. But there's a lot to talk

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Speaker 5: about here with with Devonte Parker. I think, just in itself,

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Speaker 5: Devontae Parker as a player that looks like he's going

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Speaker 5: to stick around for a couple of years, what this

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Speaker 5: means for the offense currently, the current makeup of the roster,

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Speaker 5: and then obviously the effects that it has potentially or

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Speaker 5: not on on DeAndre Hopkins and the sweepstakes for DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 5: It does sound like from various reports in Rapaport, Mike

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Speaker 5: Reeese coming out and saying that they don't feel like

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Speaker 5: this is connected to DeAndre Hopkins. I have some doubts

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Speaker 5: get your guys' opinion just on Devonte Parker in this

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Speaker 4: It's interesting and we should just sort of give some

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Speaker 4: nuts and bolts. Ian Rapaport NFL network was the one

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Speaker 4: I first saw yesterday. I think he's been credited with

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Speaker 4: that I thought was very ambiguous. Fourteen million in guarantees

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Speaker 4: and roster bonuses, which aren't the same thing. So I

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Speaker 4: nuts and bolts of the contract extension. We can talk

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Speaker 4: about that after us. But in regards to Hopkins specifically,

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Speaker 4: as you brought up, Evan, this might sound weird. I

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Speaker 3: Push it more towards Cooks maybe Cook sorry Cook, No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: not in fact it at all.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't think that this stuff is

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Speaker 4: He's gonna wait till training camp. I take that as

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Speaker 4: I think that's probably the way it will unfold.

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Speaker 5: Alex, I feel like.

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Speaker 6: That was always, yeah, the way it was going to unfold. Initially,

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Speaker 6: I don't know. There's probably a lot of egos in

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Speaker 6: over the last year into this off season. So was

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Speaker 6: there a situation where it was like, Hey, I don't

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Speaker 5: I think that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, but I think I hope that

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Speaker 6: I hope that Parker really has a year this year

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Speaker 2: I feel like there was so many times.

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Speaker 6: Last year where he'd make a really big play and

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Speaker 2: So obviously him being healthy is the biggest thing. But

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Speaker 2: I don't really know what to make of this situation.

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Speaker 3: You saw some not reports, but on Twitter he was

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Speaker 3: I think it's just like him in for the year,

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Speaker 3: He was kind of like quiet on the whole Hopkins situation.

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Speaker 2: Quiet guy in Salty. He's really hard to read. He's

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Speaker 3: But that being said, I think it locks him in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was my biggest takeaway from the Parker angle

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Speaker 5: sign DeAndre Hopkins. He's going to be here. He's going

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Speaker 5: And I think on the surface, just on a on

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Speaker 5: don't mind the player. I think he's a productive player

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Speaker 5: when he's out there. Paul, you might not like this,

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Speaker 5: but the nerds love him, the analytics love him.

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Speaker 4: Some of the nerds love him.

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Speaker 5: Warren Sharp doesn't like him, and we can get to.

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Speaker 4: That discriminatory against the nerds. Let's them all.

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Speaker 5: He's he's a different kind of nerd to me. Analytically,

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Speaker 5: he's an efficient player. You know, seventeen point four yards

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Speaker 5: drop very many passes. There's a lot of things that

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Speaker 5: he did very well last year. Granted, in only forty

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Speaker 5: hundred and twenty times and he only gets targeted forty seven,

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Speaker 5: So the sample size a little bit different. But I

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Speaker 5: think Devontae Parker as a player is a useful solid

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Speaker 5: that being said, my big picture concern about it and

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Speaker 5: why I can't love this move is it's another thing

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Speaker 5: that tells me that this is the tax bracket that

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Speaker 5: It's going to be Juju Smith Schusters, it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: that's in that mid level contract status. And every once

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Speaker 5: at the position to get a youth and get some

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Speaker 4: You guys feel about it's just curious.

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Speaker 6: I think that I feel kind of similarly to you.

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Speaker 6: But I think that Hopkins might be outlier here just

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I can be.

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Speaker 5: Proven wrong easily. If they signed DeAndre Hopkins next week,

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Speaker 5: It's still not, you know, changing philosophy, and their philosophy

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Speaker 5: they're spending model at that position tells me that they

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Speaker 5: don't want to over extend for a wide receiver. They're

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Speaker 3: When Parker's on, I think he's an above average receiver,

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Speaker 3: like he saw flashes of it last season. But if

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Speaker 3: you're paying a receiver in his thirties, I'd rather paid Hopkins.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and I mean, I'm gonna get to the

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Speaker 4: nerd stuff later because I'm curious all in all honesty. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm curious on some of the different numbers, which ones,

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Speaker 4: as you are, Evan, I'm curious to which ones are

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Speaker 4: more important than others. But a couple of things on this, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's he's thirty years old. I think it's sort of

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Speaker 4: been portrayed as a pay cut disguised as an extension.

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Speaker 4: I don't really think that that's the case. I think

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Speaker 4: know that when you do these extensions, typically the base

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Speaker 4: salary in the first year goes down, which opens up

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Speaker 4: some cap space. His base number was something like five

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Speaker 4: point seven. He's probably going to have to be on

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Speaker 4: the field to get five point seven, but as a

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Speaker 4: him to be on the field, right, So it's not like, well, jeez,

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Speaker 4: we can keep that under five points set. Well, that's

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Speaker 4: not good if you kept it under five point seven.

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Speaker 4: But the thing that I don't like about the the

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Speaker 4: extension the most is is it signing off on future

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Speaker 4: DeVante Parker years? Like I can't imagine that he's not

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Speaker 4: part of the equation and at least in twenty four. Now,

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Speaker 4: I don't know is this a true extension, Like is

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Speaker 4: two more years so he signed They usually do, so

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't love the idea. And Alex, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna get this analogy because you're so Celtic centric. It's

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Speaker 4: He's never really panned out to be that. Right, He's

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Speaker 5: To me, that's my concern. My concern is that and

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Speaker 4: And this is Paul is quote unquote worried about everything.

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Speaker 4: like going into year three, you're a veteran receiver, which

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Speaker 5: I'm worrying about the same thing because when you look

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Speaker 5: You don't, you don't develop in any other way besides

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't mind Parker as a player either. I

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Speaker 4: It's not big money or anything like that. Don't get

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Speaker 3: It's odd to do it around this time though, when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't think it has Like I'm kind

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Speaker 4: you know, like, let us know what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: We need to plan. You know, you don't dictate when

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Speaker 4: You know, one of those things. That's what I was

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Speaker 4: Doing a great job. Thank you, good job facilitating.

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Speaker 4: Certainly you and Mike especially felt like Bourne would be

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I always thought that that Bourne was more. I

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Speaker 5: But at some point, the things that Bourne says in

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Speaker 6: Well, then you're just even in a worse situation, well

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Speaker 4: And again like don't don't mistake this conversation with We're

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Speaker 5: Definitely did not expect that that news to break, And

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I was driving home. I saw my buddy Evan

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Speaker 5: Yeah, our amazing social manager Neil called me slacked me.

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Speaker 6: That's because I put it in the social squad slack

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Speaker 5: I am actually in that slack. Oh, so don't worry.

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Speaker 4: But it was funny because I have.

436
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Speaker 5: I have alerts obviously on my phone for rap Sheet

437
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 5: and Schefter, so my phone goes off and if they

438
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 5: tweet anything, let you know, breaking news like that, I

439
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 5: was like, I got it, I got it. But yeah,

440
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 5: it was it was definitely surprising to see that that

441
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Speaker 5: come down.

442
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Speaker 4: Last night.

443
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Speaker 5: You mentioned we mentioned Hopkins a lot, you mentioned Dalvin

444
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Speaker 5: Cook a little bit.

445
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Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook replied to a Pat McAfee video saying, I

446
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: don't have the audio here, but I believe they mentioned

447
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 3: he took a visit to the Dolphins, and then Dalvin

448
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: Cook tweeted, I declined a visit just so you know

449
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: my guy.

450
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Speaker 5: So so he's going this is I'm very confused because he.

451
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Speaker 4: I don't know what that means. I'm confused that was

452
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 4: what that means.

453
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Speaker 2: So he declined the find a visit to the Dolphins, but.

454
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Speaker 5: He also says this guy yesterday.

455
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Speaker 3: The guy is Pat McAfee. O Pat McAfee clip. And

456
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 3: then he quote tweeted it saying I declined to.

457
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Speaker 4: Visit, okay, but he also in Miami. To be a

458
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 4: lot more clear, he also said yesterday.

459
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Speaker 5: And then there was his agent did some did some

460
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Speaker 5: you know pr right, because Dalvin Cook treated something cryptic

461
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 5: about how he didn't meet with the team that was

462
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 5: being disgusted, everybody took it as Miami, and.

463
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Speaker 4: Then there any other kind of tweet from a player that's.

464
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Speaker 5: Not crypt right, And then and then all this came

465
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Speaker 5: out about him saying no, no, no, like he still

466
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 5: is open to playing for the Dolphins, and he didn't

467
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 5: turn down any visits. But now he's saying he did

468
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Speaker 5: turn out, So did he or did he not?

469
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Speaker 3: He said he said he declined a visit. Jeez, I

470
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 3: could have Matt listened to the video because I want

471
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Speaker 3: to play it over the air.

472
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Speaker 4: But I got to be honest, I don't really have

473
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: a whole lot of interest in Dalvin Cook. As much

474
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 4: as I love the player, I.

475
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: Think it's complimentary. It's like when we talked about the draft,

476
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 3: if the Pats took Jon Robbins.

477
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Speaker 4: I think all that's going to do is make you

478
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: run the ball more, which makes you less relevant. I mean, iay, NFL.

479
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Speaker 3: It's it's a bonus to have him, but I don't

480
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: think it's the end of the world. You don't get

481
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: him like he got Romondre Stevenson. You got the young guys.

482
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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's implementary.

483
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Speaker 5: The running back market is really fascinating, and I'm getting

484
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 5: to the point where it could be another Belichick zig

485
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 5: where everybody else's EAGs with the running backs. And that's

486
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Speaker 5: the only reason why I would leave the door slightly

487
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Speaker 5: a jar for maybe that.

488
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying they won't want the receiver. You're taking

489
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Speaker 4: the running back, right, the main thing ever you want,

490
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 4: you're not going to get.

491
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Speaker 5: These veteran running backs. And I say, I mean Dalvin

492
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Speaker 5: Cook's twenty seven. It's not like he's thirty three, right.

493
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Speaker 5: These guys can't get paid. You know, he's a free

494
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 5: agent for It's a free agent Zeke Elliot, it's a

495
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 5: free agent Kareem Hunt. Josh Jacobs is holding out on

496
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 5: the franchise, Saquon's holding out. So it's a it's an

497
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 5: epidemic right now with the running backs that that their

498
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 5: market value just isn't really there. And the only position

499
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 5: where the franchise tag is decreasing in value is running backs.

500
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Speaker 5: It's going up exponentially across the board except for one position.

501
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Speaker 5: And at some point does it become a bargain to

502
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Speaker 5: have Dalvin Cook at six million dollars for a guy

503
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Speaker 5: that's made four consecutive Pro Bowls, that's put up huge

504
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Speaker 5: numbers in Minnesota. That's why I don't rule it out,

505
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Speaker 5: because I don't know if the market is necessarily there

506
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Speaker 5: for a guy like Dalvin Cook the way that you

507
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 5: would think it would be, given his his Cachet in

508
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Speaker 5: the league.

509
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, like I said, I don't dismiss

510
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Speaker 4: him getting signed. I just don't think it's a needle

511
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Speaker 4: mover if he does. I really don't like Hopkins. I

512
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: think if if Hopkins pans out and he remains that

513
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: one hundred catch guy, I think that could change your

514
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 4: offense a little bit. And I don't know how much

515
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 4: that catches you up to everybody else in the AFC,

516
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: but it could change your offense. I think having another

517
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Speaker 4: good running back, Like I think Stevenson's pretty good, it's

518
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Speaker 4: I think Coke is better. He is probably more talented,

519
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 4: certainly more of a home run threat I was, Yeah,

520
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 4: more explosive. But I don't know how much better that

521
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: makes your offense. But you, so this is.

522
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Speaker 5: A big thing, is do you trust what they have

523
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Speaker 5: behind Stevenson? You know, taking it now?

524
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Speaker 4: That's a totally fair point. But that's kind of like,

525
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Speaker 4: I don't think he's coming in for like a million, right,

526
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Speaker 4: Like you want to give a guy like six eight

527
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 4: million to come in as insurance. I no, I wonder

528
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Speaker 4: if if you wanted to make it, if you just

529
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Speaker 4: wanted to make him the centerpiece of your offense then

530
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Speaker 4: I don't care. Yeah, if you just think that Coke

531
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Speaker 4: is so much better than Stevenson and you want to

532
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,239
Speaker 4: ride with him, then you know me, I don't really

533
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 4: care about the money.

534
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 5: I don't care about the money either. I think you know,

535
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 5: similar to Parker and Hopkins, they can't play together. Like,

536
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 5: you're not gonna run two running back sets with part

537
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 5: with Stevenson and Cook on the field together, right, That doesn't.

538
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 4: So if Stevenson gets hurt, then Cook make your team better. Yeah, Like,

539
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 4: if Stevenson doesn't get hurt, I agree with you. They're

540
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: not going to play together. So how much better are you?

541
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Speaker 5: Is it worth it to just to play Devil's advocate

542
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 5: because I am in the host chair? Is it worth

543
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 5: it to give one hundred and fifty carries to Remonderate

544
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 5: and one hundred and fifty carries to Dalvin Cook? And

545
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 5: they kind of have this one two punch where they're

546
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 5: trading series and trading off you know, situations and things

547
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 5: like that, and then by the end of the season

548
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 5: they're both still as close to one hundred percent as

549
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 5: they possibly could be.

550
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Speaker 4: That would be the ideal situation, I would say, I agree, sir, sure.

551
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Speaker 5: Matisse wants Dalvin Cook.

552
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: From Matista that I can't use on the age. It

553
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: starts with star and what's something you can't say because that's.

554
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 5: Because Matisa is a is a company man and he

555
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 5: realizes like I do that DeAndre Hopkins and Dalvin Cook

556
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 5: moves the needle.

557
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: For us the web traffic.

558
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, last year. Last year was the first time, like

559
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: I would go to the bathroom when the paths were

560
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 3: on offense, Like I wasn't excited. There was nothing that

561
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: I looked forward to on offense. Defensive was absolutely putrid.

562
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: And if we have Dalvin Cook DeAndre Hopkins, like something

563
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: will happen.

564
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: So she's just like, we got to punch, so we

565
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: have a chance to score.

566
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: No, but then Pollardi was punting, which to this.

567
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: But as long as we were punting the ball, we

568
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: had a chance to.

569
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Speaker 3: Get There you go, There you go.

570
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 5: But Marcus Jones on the field, Yeah, that's.

571
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: It, Marcus Jones. Marcus he could be our backup running

572
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: back too.

573
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 5: There you go. All right, Should we take some of

574
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 5: these calls eight five to five pats five hundred the

575
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 5: phone lines. We didn't have to ask for calls today, Paul,

576
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 5: the phone lines.

577
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 4: There no we are, Yeah, definitely better off. It's you

578
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: a facilitation. I think I also know for a fact

579
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 4: how to do this. Oh, I know how to do it.

580
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 4: You have to do the other one.

581
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 5: I know for a fact that when I hit uh,

582
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 5: you know the button here for Eldred to talk about

583
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: this DeVante Parker contract, that Eldred, I feel like you're

584
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 5: gonna have a pretty strong take on this, my man.

585
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: What's up?

586
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 8: Hey?

587
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 6: Hey?

588
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 9: Doing everybody? Paul Alex? Uh, everybody's there? Hey? No, I

589
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 9: don't like that during move he's gonna pay a thirty

590
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 9: old thirty three billion, you know, Like I said, this

591
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 9: is typical Bill, and that's why I said. That's why

592
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 9: I said we would never have a Star wide receiver

593
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 9: as long as he's in the GM chair. I'm sorry.

594
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 9: I just don't like some of his moves. Yeah, y'all

595
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 9: say he moved the needle a little bit, but no,

596
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 9: he don't. And what he said about Mac. I think

597
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 9: he don't like Mac, to be honest with you, because

598
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 9: he ain't doing nothing really trying to help him. Let

599
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 9: anybody else do. I think he's after last year, he

600
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 9: saw it because he got rid of one of his

601
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 9: top guys. And he's not doing nothing to help him. Man,

602
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 9: And that's my only take on it. I'm not a

603
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 9: big Mac fan, but least get a guy shot, you

604
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 9: know what I mean. Least give me a shot in Thornton.

605
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 9: I'm like you, Evan, I played run off the bat.

606
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 9: That's the one where he gets better with their speed.

607
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 9: Just can't sit there and coach him like that. You

608
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 9: gotta let him play. But Bill always liked start his veterans.

609
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 9: Didn't start a rookie or second your guy unless he

610
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 9: proves something. What do y'all think?

611
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, Eligra, Thanks for the call. That's

612
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 5: sort of where I'm coming from from the from this

613
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 5: DeVante Parker extension is just it's another move to me

614
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 5: that tells me that they are not going to be

615
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 5: big investors in the wide wide receiver position. And you

616
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: can talk about it from any angle, whether it's cap space,

617
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 5: whether it's draft capital, or a combination of the two.

618
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: You we were walking down here Tis and I was talking,

619
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Speaker 5: They're never gonna make that Tyreek Hill trade. They're never

620
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: gonna do something like that as long as Belichick's here.

621
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Speaker 5: They're never gonna make the aj Brown trade. The Stefon

622
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: Diggs trade like that's just they're not gonna do it.

623
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 5: And I think that is disappointing because the way the

624
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: rest of the league has has done things in recent years,

625
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 5: that's what everybody else is doing, right. And you look

626
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 5: at I just take a small sample of the final

627
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 5: four teams last year. You have Kansas City, which has

628
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 5: the best quarterback in the game. They also have Travis Kelce.

629
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 5: You have the Bengals, who we talked about last week

630
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 5: might have the best receiver room in football. You have

631
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers on the other side who trade

632
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 5: for Christian McCaffrey in the middle of the season despite

633
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 5: already having George Kittle and Brandon night yuk and a

634
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 5: good supporting cast, and then obviously Philly with their two

635
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 5: headed monster at receiver. So the results are are starting

636
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 5: to turn to the point where the teams that are

637
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 5: winning are investing in that position big time. And maybe

638
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 5: twenty years ago that wasn't the case. You know, you

639
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 5: had teams that invested first round picks and a lot

640
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 5: of caps based on star receivers, and it kind of

641
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 5: went the other way where that was worth the investment.

642
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 5: Now I feel like it's really proven out over the

643
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: last couple of years that it is worth the investment.

644
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 5: I just don't think that this team is ever gonna

645
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 5: change their philosophy of how they approach.

646
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: It's almost like it's an arms race and they're choosing

647
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 4: to try to fight it defensively.

648
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: Well, it's just so frustrating because you see you mentioned

649
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: the Eagles, they get aj Brown, Like, look what that

650
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: did for Jalen Hurts, I mean Garrett Wilson, Like, yeah,

651
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson's not that great, but a couple of games

652
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: he went off like you's got to get your quarterback

653
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Speaker 3: a young.

654
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Speaker 4: I mean, I would say it was really significant for

655
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: with the Jets. The Jets like had no quarterback play

656
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: at all, and we're seven and four, yep, you know,

657
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: and then ultimately they couldn't finish it off because at

658
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: some point you need your quarterback to be able to

659
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: complete some passes and they had guys that couldn't do it.

660
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 10: Now.

661
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: So they ended up going seven to ten. But that

662
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: was because of everything around them, the defense, the receivers.

663
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: You know, until Breeze Hall towards ACL they had a

664
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: good running game. That's they had some weapons on offense.

665
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: They just didn't have a quarterback. Yeah.

666
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 5: I think though we all agree that one of the

667
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 5: guys that Bill respects his opinion the most in this

668
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 5: whole football world is Nick Saban. And I keep going

669
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 5: back to Sabin, and this is in the college game,

670
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 5: so it's not apples to Apps. But this was almost

671
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 5: a decade ago now that Sabin gave that. I think

672
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: it was at a coaching clinic or a press conference

673
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 5: or something like that, where he said, good defense isn't

674
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 5: good enough anymore. You can't play win games seventeen to

675
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 5: fourteen at this level anymore. And Alabama completely changed not

676
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 5: only their offensive system, but they completely changed their recruiting philosophy.

677
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, they have Jerry Judy and

678
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 5: Jamison Williams and Jalen Waddle and DeVante Smith and John

679
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 5: Metchi and Henry Ruggs and all these receivers coming through.

680
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 5: They're recruiting Tua and Bryce Young, five star, you know,

681
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 5: consensus top prospects out of high school at the quarterback position.

682
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 5: And they completely reinvented themselves from the team that they

683
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 5: used to be to light up the scoreboard. And Belichick

684
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 5: so far, at least, has been pretty reluctant to adapt

685
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 5: and to change to that philosophy. And maybe in the

686
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 5: long run, and I look like an idiot, he ends

687
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 5: up being right, and they they win with defense and

688
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 5: ball control and you know, limiting turnovers offensively and good

689
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 5: special teams and complimentary football, and maybe they end up

690
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 5: winning like that. But that just hasn't been the track

691
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 5: record have had the last handful of seasons. I think

692
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 5: you can when some games like that. I don't think

693
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 5: you can win at all like that.

694
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: Not Now just comes a time where you're gonna play

695
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: the Chiefs of the world, right, and you know you

696
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: gotta stop them.

697
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: I mean, you just look at the Super Bowl last year.

698
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 5: I saw Jason Kelsey has been trying to talk up

699
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 5: Hurts because I guess Hurts took the loss pretty hard

700
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl, and Kelsey was like, you played

701
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 5: a great game. What are you talking about?

702
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: You're fine.

703
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts had four hundred total yards and four touchdowns

704
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 5: in that game and lost.

705
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he played a great game. Yeah, And it

706
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: was a circumstantial kind of a loss, like the way

707
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: it kind of unfolded. The Chiefs made the plays in

708
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. But I don't see a lot of

709
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: you know, seventeen to fourteen kind of wins. You know,

710
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: you know, it can happen, like an individual game, it

711
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: can happen. And I know a lot of people like

712
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 4: it was just twenty eighteen, the Patriots won the Super

713
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: Bowl thirteen to three, But they ignore the fact that

714
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: they scored you know, forty in the two playoff games

715
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: to get there.

716
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: Right.

717
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: I just feel like if you think you're gonna win

718
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: consistently over good teams that way, I think it's a

719
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 4: tough way to win, that's all. And I don't think

720
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: I don't think that you can play defense at that

721
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: level against good, good offenses. I think Saban's right. Yeah,

722
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: I think ultimately Saban is right. I think when you

723
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: play a good team, to expect to hold them under

724
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 4: twenty four is that's tough.

725
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 3: You need a crazy windstorm, That's what.

726
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 4: I'm saying, you know, Like, yeah, I mean there's gonna

727
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: be games that the other team's not gonna have, those

728
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: players aren't gonna be available. This is the way it

729
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: is in this league, you know. But like last year

730
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: even and I thought they were better defensively last year

731
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: than they were the previous year when they made the playoffs,

732
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: but even last year when they played you know, relatively

733
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: competent quarterbacks, they had a hard time. And the probably

734
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: the best defensive performance, to your point, was you know,

735
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: kind of fluky. Was like the second half against Cincinnati

736
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 4: where they didn't allow a lot of points. I don't

737
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 4: know how. I really don't know how they didn't allow

738
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 4: a lot of points, but they didn't, and ultimately they

739
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 4: you know, they had a chance to win the game

740
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: because of it. But I mean, if you watch that

741
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 4: game and you see the numbers that Burrow put up

742
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: and the numbers that the receivers put up, and you're like,

743
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 4: they had no answers really.

744
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 6: And that's just the perfect point to this, because as

745
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 6: good as the defense may have played in that second half,

746
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 6: the offense still lost the game for us.

747
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 4: So it's like, right, right, But I'm saying, if you

748
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: could play defense like that against the top offenses like they,

749
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: you know, like they didn't allow a lot of points

750
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: in the second half, if you could do that all

751
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: the time against good offenses, then your offense is gonna

752
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 4: be good enough for you to win games. You know, Traditionally,

753
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 4: I just don't think that you can count on holding

754
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: good offenses like that, Like the Bengals had almost five

755
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: hundred yards of offense in that game. I remember, I

756
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: don't know how they only had twenty two or whatever

757
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: points that at the end of the day. I don't

758
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: know how they only had that amount of points.

759
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: I remember pregame, somebody was I think it was Emma

760
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: was walking by Joe Burrow and he goes, I'm going

761
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: for three hundred to day he went for three seventy five,

762
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: three touchdowns. Like, none of these star quarterbacks are worried

763
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: about this defense at all last year.

764
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I don't think that any of these

765
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 5: star quarterbacks are worried about any defense.

766
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's my larger point.

767
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's that's where you still get

768
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 5: into the stat that I have to update. So I

769
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 5: don't know off the top of my head what their

770
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 5: OPHRA record is now, But when the opponent scores more

771
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 5: than twenty five points against the Patriots in the mac

772
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 5: Jones era, I think they're oh to fourteen at this

773
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 5: point in those games, and at some point you have

774
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: to be able to win thirty eight thirty five. You

775
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 5: have to be able to win what was that was

776
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 5: the score of the AFC Championship game in eighteen, Right

777
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 5: it was thirty thirty seven thirty Yeah, something like that. Right,

778
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 5: So you have to be able to win a game

779
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 5: along the way in a shootout, and you have to

780
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: have your quarterback and your offense be able to outscore

781
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 5: somebody every once in a while. And it's just hard

782
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: to envision like where that offense is coming from, even

783
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 5: if you project Bill O'Brien really upgrading the system, and

784
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 5: even if you project Mac Jones taking a step forward,

785
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 5: like where are the playmakers and where how is the

786
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 5: consistency get going to get to the point where you're

787
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: putting together fives six scoring drives in a game out

788
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 5: of ten?

789
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: You know?

790
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 5: It just that's the part of this whole thing that

791
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 5: worries me. But a we're all like, I feel like

792
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 5: we're all on the same page that it's not about

793
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 5: Devonte Parker though, right, It's about the philosophy of the

794
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 5: team building that that's going on.

795
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 4: You know when ultimately you know, and I think this

796
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 4: is what Alex was getting at early in the show,

797
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 4: like you have decisions that are going to be coming

798
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: soon on Mac Jones, You have to figure it out,

799
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: and I think that that's going to be ultimately what

800
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 4: decides whether or not they have the offense to keep up.

801
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 4: We can talk about bringing in Hopkins, we can talk

802
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 4: about bringing in Cook, but if the quarterback can't consistently

803
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: drive the ball into tight coverage and make plays and,

804
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: as Evan says, get it locked up in a shootout

805
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: and come out the other side the winner, it's not

806
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 4: gonna matter.

807
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: I just see a mac Jones situation similar to Danny Dimes,

808
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: where like he's okay, above average, and you're paying him

809
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: what was it, one hundred and forty million, because that's

810
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: the market value.

811
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say no on that. I don't see

812
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: them doing that.

813
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 3: No, I don't see them doing it. But like they're

814
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: a good chance Mac Jones will get paid somewhere.

815
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 5: So that that's the as soon as Daniel Jones's contract.

816
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 5: As soon as Daniel Jones' contract came out, though, assuming

817
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 5: that Mac has a year that's maybe more reflective of

818
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 5: his rookie season and maybe even a little bit better.

819
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: I said, immediately when his agent goes to the negotiating

820
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 5: table on his contract extension, that's that's the contract that

821
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 5: I'm looking at if I'm his agent.

822
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: And I think they'll pick up the fifty year option. Yeah,

823
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: to put it off for another year. He'll play it

824
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 4: out and then then they'll see because I don't think

825
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: they're going to give him that kind of a contract.

826
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: I don't think so either.

827
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 5: And ultimately, if he, let's say in year four, year five,

828
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 5: he has like an MVP caliber season and now it

829
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 5: becomes worth it to pay him that money, then that

830
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 5: that changes the equation. But he's to your point, that's

831
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 5: the market value now even for just like a serviceable

832
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 5: NFL starter, And it's it's similar in terms of apy

833
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 5: to you know what Derek Carr got a couple of

834
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 5: years ago. Now, Derek carr structure was very different than

835
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones is, but it's thirty thirty five million dollars

836
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 5: a year of really mostly guaranteed money because they're quarterbacks.

837
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 5: So it's it's not really like you know, this DeVante

838
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 5: Parker contract, where I mean, kudos to his agent for

839
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: for putting three thirty three.

840
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, we should probably comment that they're getting ready for

841
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 6: Ed Sheeran this weekend.

842
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: A lot of stuff, there's a lot of stuff going

843
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 4: on at the stadium.

844
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Kills louder than Taylor Swift, though I don't know.

845
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 4: Who do we?

846
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 5: Who does Paul have to call Paul is the one

847
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: with the sway here? Who does Paul have to call

848
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 5: it against?

849
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 2: Sharon?

850
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Speaker 4: Yes?

851
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 5: Ed Seron?

852
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: Yes? Do you guys like Ed Cheeron? I don't know.

853
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: I like Ed Sharon. I don't love he's very talented.

854
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 4: I don't love he is very I think. And there's

855
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 4: a couple of songs that I really like. A perfect

856
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: So perfect is.

857
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: A perfect.

858
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 5: A little bit a couple I saw him do something

859
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 5: on TV, like one of the like the Grammys or

860
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 5: something like that, where he like synthesized the whole thing

861
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 5: like by himself on stage and he was playing guitar

862
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 5: and like he had the drums all set and he

863
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 5: was like using his feet to like play the bassline

864
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 5: of the song. It wasn't that was incredible. That was

865
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 5: pretty cool. I'm not a big ed cheering guy, but.

866
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: You respect the talent that.

867
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: Some of the songs like. I know that people some

868
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: of them just look at like, oh, it's poppy, it's

869
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: pop music. Who cares? Like perfect is a great song? Yeah,

870
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 4: it's a great song that other one that's a good

871
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 4: song too.

872
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: He also has more good songs than you think A

873
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: Thrones too.

874
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: I know, I don't like Aaron Rodgers, so Ed Sharon

875
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 5: wasn't a Game of Thrones can And I always remember

876
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 5: it because it was like so obviously Ed Sheeran whatever

877
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 5: they like for like three seconds just to be like, okay,

878
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: it's Ed Shearon that movie and I forget the name

879
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 5: of it, forgive me, but it's about the guy who

880
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 5: start He is like a fledgling like musician, but he

881
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 5: doesn't really have the talent to go anywhere, and he

882
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 5: somehow starts to like sing Beatles songs and no one

883
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 5: knows the Beles.

884
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 3: It's the English movie, right.

885
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's like in the future and he's it's

886
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 6: like he realizes the Beatles.

887
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 4: Nobody knows the Beatles, and people think that he's creating

888
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 4: all of these It's it's a funny movie. I mean

889
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 4: it's obviously goofy, but Ed Sharon is in the movie

890
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: and he's fantastic in it. And it's it's like they

891
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: have like a contest so you can create a song,

892
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: and he's just creating like a Beatles song that he

893
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: has song.

894
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: Yet that's funny.

895
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: It was. It was pretty funny.

896
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: I have a new found respect for for the for

897
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 5: the Beatles.

898
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, as I've aged analytics of

899
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 4: shining positively.

900
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 5: As a kid, I was like, I didn't really understand

901
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 5: the hype with the Beatles, you know, But but now

902
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: that I've gotten older and have a little bit more perspective,

903
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 5: I feel like it.

904
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: I was never like a big Beatles fan, but obviously

905
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 4: you talk about respecting the talent. I mean, that is insane.

906
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: I feel like that catalog is insane.

907
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: If you weren't into the Beatles, what were you into.

908
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: I like, I always like the Rolling Stones better than the.

909
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 6: Beatles, because I was going to say, like, there's probably

910
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 6: either Beatles feeple or like.

911
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: More rock people and stuffy. For me, it was Zeppelin.

912
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 4: To me, it was like that was before my time.

913
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: I know that you find that awfully hard to believe

914
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 4: because you're twelve, but.

915
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: That was I was twelve, because we're talking about thirty

916
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: years before my time out with the Garbage here, and

917
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 2: I'm like, that was.

918
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: That was like the Beatles, and even the Stones for

919
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: the most part, although the Laate Stones like start me

920
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: Up that was kind of middle school years. I was

921
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 4: never like really into that. I was more into, like,

922
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 4: I make fun of myself all the time, the disco

923
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: stuff nice. I was into the dance music likes Begi's

924
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: were awesome. Earth Winning Fire is the greatest school.

925
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: I love to getting after it at the club.

926
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: In town.

927
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 5: But they still got after it. They still throw down

928
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 5: in concert. Earth Winding Fire.

929
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: Oh well they uh they screw now they're saying after

930
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 4: a couple of super Bowl super Bowl Park.

931
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, they can still do, they can still boogie. They

932
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 5: I saw them, I know, three or four years ago

933
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 5: now in a in a festival.

934
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 4: Commodore's great stuff.

935
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 6: Thinking Out Loud and Castle on the Hill also to

936
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 6: Fire and Surance.

937
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 4: Thinking out Thinking out Loud is another good one. I

938
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: don't love Castle on the Hill, but it's I mean,

939
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 4: it's good.

940
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: Good.

941
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 5: Should we fire through these calls before Paul's food gets here?

942
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 5: All right, Morgan and Vermont, what's up Morgan?

943
00:44:59,520 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: Morgan?

944
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 5: Morgan, you're on the air, you were for a while.

945
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 5: You call back, Morgan, We'll get you on. Uh, Patty

946
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 5: and agu on. What's up Patty?

947
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 4: Well, you've lost your facilitation cut because you.

948
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 5: Left him on the line, too long for too pat Patty?

949
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 2: All right, Patty callbacks.

950
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 4: Okay, this is what you have to as the felger maage.

951
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: You push away from the table if Spee's not here.

952
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 5: Speed, don't don't embarrass me. Speed, come on, speed.

953
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: On lines ringing, No, speed's ringing lines.

954
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: Ring and we're coming back. We're coming back.

955
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: Patty's coming back. That would be coming back. I don't

956
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: know about Morgan.

957
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 5: This is usually a catch twenty two problems because me

958
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: and for forty five minutes and the poor callers are

959
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 5: on hold for like an hour. Oh see, he was there.

960
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: That was me paying a hang up effect.

961
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 5: This is a new one and Fresnow what's up Cody?

962
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, But I think the devout type Parker move,

963
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 11: it's not really surprising to me. I feel like it

964
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 11: makes a lot of sense, especially if you look at

965
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 11: the next free agent market for the receiver position. I

966
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 11: don't know if you guys are aware of it at

967
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 11: the moment.

968
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah no, But why why are you not surprised if

969
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 4: they resigned a thirty year old receiver and want them

970
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 4: on the team longer.

971
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 11: Well, what would be the other options? I mean, we

972
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 11: can draft go to that draft as our main resource.

973
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 11: But you know that's always a crap shoot, especially with

974
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 11: the history.

975
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: Well it's less of a crap shoot than banking on

976
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 4: a thirty one year old receiver staying healthy who hasn't

977
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 4: stayed healthy his whole career.

978
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 11: True black, I said, the history has never really been

979
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 11: good to us. I mean, Taekwon Thornton still isn't anything,

980
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 11: and he's been, you know, second round receiver.

981
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 4: I think, right. I mean that your alternative is develop

982
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 4: the players that you have, Yeah, the young guys that

983
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: you have developed them. Yeah, I mean I would put

984
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: the onus on the coaching staff to get more out

985
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: of some of these young guys that they haven't been

986
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 4: able to to get production from.

987
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd agree with that. And thanks for the call, Cody.

988
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

989
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 5: We talked about this, I think during the draft season

990
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 5: Paul about you know how it's always the the old

991
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: cliche is that tackles are like the safe picks and

992
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 5: receivers are not. You know, are the ones that but

993
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 5: that's really not last like four or five years it

994
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: first round wide receivers almost across the board have really

995
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 5: succeeded in really big ways. Like I say, Justin Jefferson, Yeah,

996
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: you know, Jalen Wattle, Davante Smith, I mean, Ceedee Lamb,

997
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 5: Like all these guys have come into the league and

998
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: produced and been really good players for their team. So yeah,

999
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 5: the draft is a crapshoot, and yeah, the Patriots history

1000
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 5: with drafting wide receivers hasn't been great. Now, the free

1001
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 5: agent market at wide receiver is never good.

1002
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: You know. You know, it's that when you have good ones,

1003
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 4: you keep them right or.

1004
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 5: They get traded, you know, for for capital. So I

1005
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 5: don't I understand what the caller is saying that if

1006
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 5: you look at who's going to be a free agent

1007
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 5: next year, DeVante Parker probably would have been one of

1008
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 5: the better free agents on the market if he stayed

1009
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 5: healthy this year and produced. But I don't think that

1010
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 5: necessarily says much because of the way that that position

1011
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 5: typically is in free agency. All right, let's try uh,

1012
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 5: let's try speak again. Speed Are you there now?

1013
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 10: Can you hear me?

1014
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 12: Houston?

1015
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: We got you?

1016
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 9: All right?

1017
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 13: It was pretty pretty weird last Like last time, you

1018
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 13: guys were talking about how Darry Ocean is and like

1019
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 13: rip currents and swimming parallels to the shore and then

1020
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 13: all of a sudden, Ryan Mallet, like it swallowed up

1021
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 13: by a rip current the next day.

1022
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't realize that that area is so.

1023
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: Danger I read that like ten people.

1024
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: Yeah this year.

1025
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're talking like firefighters.

1026
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 6: Obviously Mallet is a very probably strong guy, but I'll

1027
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 6: mess with the ocean.

1028
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: Well, you said to Scott, swim parallel, let it take

1029
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: you out, and then you swim sideways to get by

1030
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 3: the rep. That's what I was.

1031
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 2: And if you're not taught that.

1032
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: If you're not taught that also, like it's freaky as hell,

1033
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: like like you never know what happens when situation pops up,

1034
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: so it's super Unfortunately, I.

1035
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 13: Went down the rabbit hole yesterday and some some advisors

1036
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 13: were saying that you just if you can just float

1037
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 13: because sometimes swimming that way doesn't actually always work.

1038
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: Well, you would think that a guy like Ryan Mallet

1039
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 5: would be able to swim pretty far. I mean, he's

1040
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 5: a former athlete, a big guy.

1041
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: And only thirty five years old. Yeah, awful, go ahead,

1042
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 4: Well I.

1043
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 13: Wanted to before I know, Paul got to eat, but like, yeah,

1044
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 13: it's not yet doing okay, when Evan, one thing you've

1045
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 13: been saying recently. That's kind of given me a little

1046
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 13: bit of comfort as talking about the big situation and hey,

1047
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 13: is Buffalo gonna implode? Which I think that's important because

1048
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 13: the Patriots, if they're going to make the postseason, is

1049
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 13: gonna they're gonna need to get some help from the

1050
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 13: other hands to eat. So I was kind of wondering

1051
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 13: with the new Jersey Jets and the Dolphin, you know,

1052
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 13: aside from the quarterback position where you know, with to

1053
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 13: his body and Rogers is heart or lack thereof, Like,

1054
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 13: what are some other things that could maybe submarine those teams? Like, oh,

1055
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 13: what are some ways you think.

1056
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 12: They could fall apart?

1057
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 13: It's kind of like a bigger picture questions.

1058
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 4: We can put a pin in that and wait till

1059
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 4: Fred gets back. I'm sure he has a litany of

1060
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 4: ways that the other teams can all not be good.

1061
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 10: That's at least agree.

1062
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 13: That's going to be part of the equations of the

1063
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 13: patience this year.

1064
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 4: This is where they've they've this is where they've dropped to,

1065
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 4: is that you have to hope the other teams implode.

1066
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 5: Don't you miss the days where we didn't even care

1067
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 5: about the other teams. It was just are we hosting

1068
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 5: the AFC Championship Game.

1069
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: Look at the list of the coaches and quarterbacks of

1070
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: the other three teams in the AFC East and saying

1071
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: I remember him, Like that's how obscure are some of

1072
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 4: the name like Cleo Lemon, Like you'd be like, oh, yeah,

1073
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 4: I remember that guy. Now It's like, well, can can

1074
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: maybe Stefan be cranky all year and maybe take the

1075
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: whole offense down with him?

1076
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 2: Just got a root for a lot of dis front.

1077
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: Maybe came to get a concussion again and maybe not

1078
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 4: being able to play. That's that's what that's rush injuries.

1079
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 4: I don't wish injuries, but Fred does openly.

1080
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: Maybe some like du Mo leagues that add rifts to

1081
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: the locker room.

1082
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, could could Alan and Diggs be Donovan

1083
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 5: McNabb and t O all over again? Like dis is

1084
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: Dick's going to be in his driveway with his shirt

1085
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 5: off doing crunches and saying how much he hates his quarterback,

1086
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 5: Like can we.

1087
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 4: Have that he loved his other quarterback though, Dig's quarterback.

1088
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 4: That's quarterback? Gotcha?

1089
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 13: Well, Evan, you were right about male Dolphin. They're monsters.

1090
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 12: And uh.

1091
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 13: The other thing is.

1092
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 4: I never got the update.

1093
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 13: It's kind of a bad guy. John Lennon was a

1094
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 13: bad guy too.

1095
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 2: Who was okay, John Lennon, John, John Lennon, I did

1096
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: not know John the one with Yoko.

1097
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean, well I heard Yoko is like, yes,

1098
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 5: well Yoko broke up the Beatles.

1099
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 4: Well, this Harrison broke the Beatles, John.

1100
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 13: That was John Lennon's choice, the Beast.

1101
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: That's him not being in Alpha.

1102
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 4: And there's also there's a lot of difference, like we

1103
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 4: don't have to go down to uh, you know tatles

1104
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 4: On fielded here, especially when I do not have the

1105
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: knowledge that Fred obviously brings.

1106
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 2: I'm going to crap the whole time.

1107
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 4: I'm going off of like some of the stuff that

1108
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 4: Fred has said in the past. And it was sort

1109
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: of one of those things that it wasn't always what

1110
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 4: it appeared. Everybody always blamed it on Yoko and her

1111
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 4: influence on on John, but not really mentioned as much

1112
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 4: was Linda's influence on Paul and how that sort of

1113
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 4: rubs people the wrong way. And I think Matt's right.

1114
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 4: I think ultimately George Harrison just said enough with this because.

1115
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 14: He was getting all but her in the studio that

1116
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 14: Yoka was just hanging out, Linda was just hanging out,

1117
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 14: and his ideas weren't getting taken seriously, and.

1118
00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 5: He was having no no, no no, ye don't have

1119
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 5: some bad He had some bad stuff going on.

1120
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 14: Like Yoko definitely chilled John out. John was a known

1121
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 14: just I'll start fighting you kind of personally.

1122
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1123
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking at them and hearing their music.

1124
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 5: All I know is that now with pop culture references

1125
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 5: with the Beatles, they it's always like, oh, like you know,

1126
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 5: if you break up a group, your your Yoko's say that.

1127
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: That's all.

1128
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 5: That's all I know, right, I don't know if that's accurate,

1129
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 5: but that's all I got. All Right, let's try Patty again. Patty,

1130
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 5: don't let me down this time.

1131
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 15: Patty, Hey, can you guys hear me?

1132
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: Yes?

1133
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 15: What's going on?

1134
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 9: Guys?

1135
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: And how.

1136
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: Hey?

1137
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: We have a bond once from my full one three

1138
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 2: we have a bond. He's in the town over for me, Patty,

1139
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm in west Side right now?

1140
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, what does that mean?

1141
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: West Springfield cares?

1142
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 5: There's a west.

1143
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 4: Alone four ninety five.

1144
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 5: The only thing for Springfield for me is like, is

1145
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 5: it near the Basketball Hall of fame or not.

1146
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, right over the water.

1147
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: Right over the les.

1148
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 15: Yeah, I live. I live from there. So I had

1149
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 15: a couple on the Bombay Parker extension and maybe just

1150
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 15: touch on music really quickly. To me, what this like?

1151
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 15: You guys always say look at what Bill does, not

1152
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 15: what he says to me. This kind of spells out

1153
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 15: how Yeah, drafting the kill Harry in the first round,

1154
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 15: I think this is the guy or the kind of

1155
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 15: player that they they envisioned having only perfect can play.

1156
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 15: He's proven he could play in this league, and even

1157
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 15: though he's thirty years old. I don't know if there's

1158
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 15: like any out after the first or second year of

1159
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 15: the deal, But I do like Parper as a player.

1160
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 15: And I'm going to thought too about Hopkins if they

1161
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 15: do end up signing him. What do you guys think

1162
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 15: that about them using him? Kind of like the Cardinals

1163
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 15: used Fitzy towards the end of his career, where they

1164
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 15: you know, he wasn't that X they move them into

1165
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 15: and outside and uh, Paul, I gotta ask you, what's

1166
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 15: your favorite? What's your album?

1167
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 4: I didn't hear that.

1168
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: What's your favorite?

1169
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 15: What Rolling Stones album?

1170
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: Rolling Stones is probably the start me up album. Ye, yeah,

1171
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 4: because I was not, like I told you, I wasn't

1172
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 4: like a big Stones fan. I liked the stuff that

1173
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 4: was probably like eighty one, so I would be like

1174
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 4: in middle school then, Yeah, I like that album.

1175
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 15: I was in great school then. But yeah, I mean

1176
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 15: I love that music. But maybe the section of rigatone.

1177
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 15: But yeah, dude, Exile on Main Street is the Stone's

1178
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 15: best album. The class is the greatest fan. I think,

1179
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 15: who was the greatest play fan on the planet? And sureman,

1180
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 15: that's all I got.

1181
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 5: Okay, there you go.

1182
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 4: I he's higher on I don't know the player than I.

1183
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 5: I don't even remember what he said about football. I

1184
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 5: just that holes.

1185
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's talking. I do think it's a it's

1186
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 4: a definite possibility to compare the the late skill set,

1187
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 4: late career of Fitzgerald when he went into the slot.

1188
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 4: He had never really played in the slot, and he

1189
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 4: was very productive as a slot guy.

1190
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 5: But isn't that why jujus here?

1191
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? I like, I mean, like, you're not going to

1192
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 4: say anything to me that says we don't need Hopkins. No,

1193
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: I think that they could use Hopkins. Yeah, I think

1194
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 4: whether you want to play him inside, outside or whatever,

1195
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 4: I think he'd be the best receiver you have.

1196
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 5: There's definitely alignment overlap that just based off of their historically,

1197
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 5: how Hopkins has played and how Parker has played. They've

1198
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 5: both been outside receivers. They've both been guys that have

1199
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 5: played out outside the numbers X whatever you want to

1200
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 5: call it. But I think the bigger thing is is

1201
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 5: more about skill set to me than even about like

1202
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 5: they can figure out how to distribute the receivers, like

1203
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 5: Bill O'Brien will get them all on the field and

1204
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 5: he'll figure out the best way to is he in

1205
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 5: the slot?

1206
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 6: Is he this?

1207
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 9: Is he?

1208
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 4: Whatever?

1209
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 5: The bigger problem that I concerned that I would have

1210
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 5: with it is you're you're pretty reliant on slower possession

1211
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 5: receivers with good hands and good contested catchability and body control.

1212
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 5: And who out of the group is separating, Who out

1213
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 5: of the group is taking the top off the defense?

1214
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 5: And I right, Thorton, But if you have Hopkins in

1215
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 5: the middle, if he's not on the field, he can't

1216
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 5: take the top off the defense. Well, separate very slow

1217
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 5: right now, it's a slow group still that that would

1218
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 5: be my concern with it. And it's again very reliant

1219
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 5: on downfield jump balls, back shoulder throws like those are

1220
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 5: your going to be your explosive plays in the offense,

1221
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: you know? Seems to GASICKI like, is that really the

1222
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 5: way that you want to build your offen the separators.

1223
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 5: I worry about Mac because I wonder if he can

1224
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 5: complete enough passes to tightly covered guys to take advantage

1225
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 5: of you know, that kind of stuff like man coverage,

1226
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 5: and right now, I'm not talking about downfield stuff or whatever.

1227
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 5: I think that's overrated because I think all NFL quarterbacks

1228
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 5: can throw the ball down the field, like some of

1229
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 5: more accurate than others obviously, But to me, it's can

1230
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 5: you have that? You know, what's the Warren Sharp thing

1231
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 5: that you saw? Last three years he has.

1232
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 4: Finished dead last among all among all rated wide receivers

1233
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: in separation. Yeah, can Mac complete enough passes to a

1234
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 4: guy like that? Yeah?

1235
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 5: I think that, you know, I wanted to bring up

1236
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 5: the Warren Sharp thing. I think that the separation as

1237
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 5: a metric has has some flaws to it.

1238
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 4: Or enter subjectivity to it, right, that's for sure.

1239
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 5: In context of Okay, well, if this player is playing

1240
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 5: a predominantly outside receiver X receiver type of role and

1241
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 5: he's seeing a ton of backside man coverage. Then it

1242
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 5: lends itself to the fact that he's probably going to

1243
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 5: be in tighter coverage situations than somebody that's running through

1244
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 5: zones in the middle of the field.

1245
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 4: Now that being.

1246
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 5: Said, I would also say that that's not Parker's game.

1247
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 5: Parker is not a separator. We know that it's not

1248
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 5: his game. So it's kind of like expecting a guy

1249
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 5: that you know that pitches and he's all about control

1250
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 5: and putting the ball and in good places and maybe

1251
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 5: off speed stuff. And then you're like, well, why is

1252
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 5: his strikeout.

1253
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 4: Rate really low?

1254
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 5: Well, because he doesn't he doesn't have swing and mis pitches.

1255
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 5: So Parker is a contested catch guy. We've known that.

1256
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I still get do get

1257
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 5: concerned about they are building a receiving cord that is

1258
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: a lot of those types of guys.

1259
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, because my follow up would be, then why did

1260
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: we extend the guy doesn't have a good strikeout rate,

1261
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't want to, you know, I'd rather you know,

1262
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: rely on on Bayo. You know who's gonna strike guys

1263
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 4: out and has that kind of stuff than Connor Sebolt

1264
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 4: who I don't think.

1265
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 5: Did right well well Bao with Bao in this scenario

1266
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 5: since we're crossing sports fully, now, Bo in this scenario

1267
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 5: would be a little bit like Taekwon because yeah, BeO

1268
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 5: early on this year, they almost sent him back down

1269
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 5: to Worcester like he was well they did. Yeah, he

1270
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 5: was struggling really badly and now he's like been great

1271
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 5: for the last two months. So that's one of those

1272
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 5: scenarios where eventually they just kind of let him pitch

1273
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 5: his way out of it and figure it out, and

1274
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 5: that is a concern. I will take one last call

1275
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 5: and then Paul's food is here, so we'll break for lunch.

1276
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 5: But to dodge facilitating Mike and Tampa and Tampa Brady,

1277
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 5: what's going on?

1278
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 15: Hey, what's going on?

1279
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 10: Guys? So I had two different things. One of is

1280
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 10: the Ed Sheeran songs. Good one that if you guys

1281
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 10: have ever seen Sons of Anarchy, Yes, one of the

1282
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 10: last episodes, he's got a song on there called make

1283
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 10: It Rain. I would check that one out. It's pretty good.

1284
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 10: It's pretty and as far as football is concerned, a

1285
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 10: couple I want to say the last week or the

1286
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 10: week before you guys were running off a laundry list

1287
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 10: for mac Jones about what would make him, you know,

1288
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 10: what might make him better? For what what we would

1289
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 10: have to do to see the most out of him.

1290
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 10: And it seemed like that list was really long just

1291
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 10: to get him to be serviceable.

1292
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know, that sounds that sounds like

1293
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 4: a lot harsher than we like, he doesn't have to

1294
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 4: do a ton of improvement to be serviceable, Like I

1295
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 4: think he is serviceable, now you know, I don't think.

1296
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 4: I don't think he needs to have strides to be serviceable.

1297
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 10: Then I'm then I'm misremembering what I heard, But it

1298
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 10: was it seemed like there was a laundry list of

1299
01:01:55,240 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 10: stuff that like, oh, if he had a better offensive

1300
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 10: line and better wide receivers and better this and better,

1301
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 10: that we could really get the most out of him, and.

1302
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 4: Well then you could figure out.

1303
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 10: That the team would be much better. And that's I

1304
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 10: know that sounds kind of like, hello, connect the dots.

1305
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 10: But if he needs that much work to get us

1306
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Speaker 10: Like maybe, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's that's an argument.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but there's an argument to be made for that, sure,

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Speaker 5: But I think my my pushback on this argument is

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Speaker 5: him to so that he can prove himself as being

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Speaker 5: somebody that can that can.

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Speaker 4: I like the way you put that right, right, Like.

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Speaker 16: So no, Evan, not at all, not at all. So

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Speaker 16: what I what I'm trying to get at with that is,

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Speaker 16: when you need that much, maybe you're trying too hard

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Speaker 16: to get to where you want to be, and you

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Speaker 16: can make it easier on yourself by finding somebody who

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Speaker 16: has those missing pieces that Mac has that Mac doesn't have,

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Speaker 16: rather like the power to get the ball down the

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Speaker 16: field with some velocity and fit the ball into tight windows. Right,

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Speaker 16: that's got touch passes all day long.

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Speaker 5: But I hear you. But but my point is is

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Speaker 5: that I don't think that any quarterback is going to

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Speaker 5: succeed with nothing around him, you know, just just because

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Speaker 5: of his greatness. Like even a guy like Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 5: who you can make the argument Kansas City outside of

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Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey just has some okay pieces around Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 5: But Patrick Mahomes has Travis Kelcey, he has arguably the

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Speaker 5: best play caller in the sport and he's got a

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Speaker 5: stable offensive line now, and that's why he's great, you know,

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Speaker 5: that's that's what gets him to allow him to be great.

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Speaker 5: So we saw it here with Brady. You know when

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Speaker 5: years when they had down years receiver, they didn't win,

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Speaker 5: Like they didn't win in twenty thirteen, they didn't win

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Speaker 5: with reshe called well and what was that five or six? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: they didn't win those years. So even the great guys

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Speaker 5: still need help. And we saw you know the unfortunately

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Speaker 5: my last year with Brady, you know, covering the team

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Speaker 5: and everybody else, is in nineteen he was still great.

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Speaker 5: You know, he went to Tampa Bay and he won

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Speaker 5: a Super Bowl immediately. So that's the thing is like,

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Speaker 5: even if you find the Golden Goose quarterback and you

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Speaker 5: find your Patrick Mahomes like, you still you still got

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Speaker 5: to put the pieces around him, and I think that

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Speaker 5: you could.

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Speaker 4: You can.

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Speaker 5: Really, that's still good business, regardless of if it's Mac

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Speaker 5: or if it's somebody better.

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Speaker 10: Okay, gotcha, Well, Hey, thank you guys for taking my call.

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Speaker 10: Paulie enjoyed the launch. I really enjoyed listening to you

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Speaker 10: guys every week.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Mike, no problem for Colin, and I do hear

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Speaker 5: his point because I know, well you talk about it

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Speaker 5: all the time with Drew Bloodstone, like you just kept

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Speaker 4: Well. But I but I agree with Mike's premise, Like

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Speaker 4: what quarterback in the league wouldn't succeed with all of

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Speaker 4: the you know, a great offensive line, great running game,

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Speaker 4: great receivers, great defense, great coach. Like what do I

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Speaker 4: need you for?

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Speaker 8: That?

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Speaker 4: To me? Is brock party? Yeah? Like he has the

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Speaker 4: best weapons. I think Bill Barnwell had San Francisco one

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Speaker 4: in that list that you cited earlier. He has the

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Speaker 4: best weapons in the league. They have a great defense.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I thought he was suggesting switch mac Jones or

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Speaker 3: Brock Party.

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Speaker 4: No, I think.

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Speaker 3: That you couldn't do it if you if you put

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Speaker 3: mac Jones in that offense, like, who knows what would happen?

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Speaker 5: I think what he's suggesting, and I honestly I'm interested

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Speaker 5: to see if this is the way that that Bill

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Speaker 5: handles it. Is if mac Jones is a replacement level quarterback,

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Speaker 5: then instead of after the fifth year option or four years,

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Speaker 5: instead of paying him Daniel Jones money, just replace him.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think that's what he'll do, unless he

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Speaker 4: makes an enormous leap. I think that's what he'll do.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna take a break. Before we take

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Speaker 4: But NFL Network just starting their sort of tribute to

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Speaker 4: How's that? Is that the best way to put it?

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Speaker 4: to wall Patriots this afternoon. I think the first one

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Speaker 5: They did have to show the nine.

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Speaker 5: Though I could have done without the the Ray rice

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Speaker 3: That was me in boarding school getting my heart ripped out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a tough one in Wes Welker.

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Speaker 5: But maybe we'll talk a little bit of fourteenth divisional

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Speaker 23: Date of Q two, twenty.

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Speaker 3: History.

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Speaker 24: Here's what I would like you to adopt on unfiltered

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Speaker 24: and every other thing that you do in here, god

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Speaker 24: knows what during the week, take a little more zen

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Speaker 24: do that.

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Speaker 22: We have to hate.

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Speaker 2: It's fuel.

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Speaker 4: How about eleven minutes? Does that is that egregious? Is

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Speaker 4: eleven minutes on the whole day. See, here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: His workday is four hours.

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Speaker 3: Our work day is ten hours.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's what he doesn't understand. That's what he

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Speaker 4: doesn't understand.

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Speaker 24: Does that Does that include when I'm here doing the

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01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,839
Speaker 24: VS or I'm doing my satellite a single day day.

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Speaker 3: On a single day and a single They're not here

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Speaker 3: to do the podcast slash radio show. We're here to

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Speaker 3: do other things. We throw that in for our fans.

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Speaker 3: Let's carry Let our fans understand that we need to

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Speaker 3: eat right.

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Speaker 4: Let's you and I both carry a little personal work meter.

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Speaker 4: Do you believe in UFOs?

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Speaker 3: Hardy and you're just stupid. Let's talk about UFOs.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm going there?

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Speaker 1: And that's another great moment from.

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Speaker 5: We're Back and Paul has just finished his food like

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Speaker 5: right on time. And I always find it fascinating that

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01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 5: you managed to do that every single time. You never

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Speaker 5: miss a beat.

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Speaker 4: Why do you think I look the way I do.

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Speaker 4: That's not where I was going with that. But eating

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Speaker 4: crap in like thirty seconds, that's you know, that's why

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Speaker 4: you get fat.

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Speaker 14: But at timing's on my part here watching them eat.

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Speaker 5: That's true. Breen's got got the timing down too. It

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Speaker 5: seems like you guys have done this before. It's not

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Speaker 5: your your first rodeo.

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Speaker 6: Well, you have to eat as fast as you can

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Speaker 6: before your brain can signal down to your stomach.

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Speaker 4: And be like, yo, I'm full stop doing that.

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Speaker 3: I always get slandered, the whole fast, the whole stomach

1670
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Speaker 3: eater in the world.

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Speaker 5: My brain never tells my stomach.

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01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 6: That's because you probably have some unhealthy things going on

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01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 6: in your gut microbiome.

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Speaker 4: But what don't just the whole other story. Smile, smile

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Speaker 4: and nod. That's a big word that I has words.

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Speaker 2: Your gut's like your second brain. You guys.

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Speaker 5: I have never once in my life thought to myself,

1678
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 5: I couldn't while eating, I couldn't eat another bite now

1679
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 5: ten minutes later after it hits me how much I

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Speaker 5: just ate.

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Speaker 3: The ibs kicks in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure you have that, No I do, say Andy

1683
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Speaker 4: Hart had it. I don't amazing that's true? Are you

1684
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Speaker 4: know multiple members of this show.

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01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 3: No, I don't have that thing, for sure, I got

1686
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 3: but I eat like trash too, so it's probably my fault.

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Speaker 4: I always to say that to Andy. I was like,

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01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 4: did you ever try to actually eat normal and see

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01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 4: how it goes?

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Speaker 6: No, I was just not about your atte One of

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Speaker 6: my friends, like, she's just now trying vegetables and stuff,

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Speaker 6: and she's a really petite girl.

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Speaker 2: She can't believe she's like pre diabetic.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, that's because we went out to like

1695
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,919
Speaker 6: a five star restaurant and you asked for buttered noodles

1696
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 6: and we were eating like elk and stuff.

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01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: And elk just got it.

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01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 6: Was the elk almost as good as the octopus.

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01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 3: Okay, octopus is good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like octopus Southbound Charleston, South Carolina, great restaurant.

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Speaker 4: So we actually had elk on this show. Oh, someone

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Speaker 4: came and cooked it for us right out in the

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Speaker 4: parking right out in the parking lot. I don't know

1704
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 4: it was very good.

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01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 5: I would try it just because I try anything.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the most elsy proteins. It's really good.

1707
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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Alex.

1708
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Speaker 4: I agree with you, though. I generally when I stop eating,

1709
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 4: that's out of embarrassment, not not satisfaction. I don't know.

1710
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 4: I just you know, I I'm looking.

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Speaker 5: I'm definitely one of those one of those people that

1712
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 5: needs to to tell myself to stop eating, because if

1713
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 5: I eat as much as I really want to, then

1714
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 5: I'll be three hundred pounds. So I have to control myself.

1715
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 5: But I'm never full, never.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

1717
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:54,799
Speaker 5: It's one of those problems.

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01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 6: But that's because actually I'm just gonna stop. I'm not

1719
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 6: eating foods that are satisfy you. You're tricking your body.

1720
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 6: And then you're like, wait, I'm still hungry. I eat

1721
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 6: all this food, but I got nothing from it.

1722
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Speaker 5: You're telling me my Jersey Mike's number seven is.

1723
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Speaker 3: Not is not filling my or the ten d's in

1724
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Speaker 3: the commons.

1725
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the comments.

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Speaker 4: I've heard some. I've heard some good things and some

1727
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Speaker 4: bad things.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday I was your afternoon after that was fine.

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Speaker 4: I actually included which I don't I haven't done.

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Speaker 2: I got a fry yesterday too with my keen wobble.

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Speaker 3: I will admit it, doesn't you get the Siracha the

1732
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 3: fries and Sacha slaps.

1733
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 4: The guys are doing good.

1734
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 2: Work out there. I love the kitchen guys up there.

1735
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 5: So they're they're showing on NFL Network right now the

1736
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:47,560
Speaker 5: twenty fourteenth Divisional Round game against Baltimore and they're explaining

1737
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 5: the ineligible receiver formation that the Patriots said used in

1738
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 5: this game to trick the Ravens, And to me, that

1739
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 5: will never get old. I will never get over watching

1740
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 5: John Harbaugh lose his mind on the sideline trying to

1741
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 5: figure this out. I think we got to go around

1742
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 5: the table. Though I know where Paul was because he

1743
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 5: was He was here when this when this game.

1744
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 4: Happened, This is one of the best. Seriously, I set

1745
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 4: up before the break. This is one of the best

1746
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 4: playoff games, and I don't think it gets as much

1747
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 4: attention as a lot of others.

1748
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 5: It was a classic. Where were you guys when this

1749
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 5: game happened?

1750
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 3: I was in my mom's living room screaming at the TV.

1751
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 3: When Flacco threw that ball at the end, I swear

1752
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 3: it was in the air for forty five seconds. That's all

1753
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 3: I remember.

1754
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 4: Yep.

1755
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 2: I think I was at my friend Morgan's house. Were

1756
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 2: my friend Morgan. We were just having a lot of

1757
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 2: watch parties those days.

1758
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I was on break, wasn't that.

1759
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, So that that was for me. I was in college,

1760
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 5: so that was right in the middle of winter break.

1761
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 11: Yep.

1762
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 5: We were on vacation, and I remember to this day

1763
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 5: that my mom was furious because my mom's not a

1764
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 5: football fan, doesn't watch football, and we were on vacation,

1765
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 5: family vacation, and me and my dad and my sister

1766
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 5: wanted to stay in that night and watch the game,

1767
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 5: and we got takeout from the restaurant at the hotel

1768
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 5: and you know it, and deal a little little party

1769
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 5: in the hotel room. And my mom is like furious

1770
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 5: because we didn't we didn't go out pats on vacation,

1771
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 5: and she just didn't really understand. And then it turned

1772
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 5: out to be the greatest divisional round game they probably

1773
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 5: ever played. And in hindsight, I think it was great that,

1774
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 5: you know, luckily they won. I probably would have would

1775
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 5: have ruined the rest of the vacation.

1776
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 4: If they had lost. So I'm glad that they had won.

1777
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 2: But was she less mad after the win or was

1778
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:31,839
Speaker 2: she she was relieved?

1779
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 5: She always said every time that the Patriots played in

1780
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 5: a big game, like a playoff game or Super Bowl,

1781
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 5: it was relief when they won.

1782
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 2: Because a huge brat when they lost, Like, would you cry?

1783
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 5: I wouldn't cry. I'd usually like go into like a

1784
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 5: fortress of solitude for a little while.

1785
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's probably a nice break on your mom

1786
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 2: when they lost.

1787
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 5: For me, like on like a Sunday, you know, before

1788
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 5: it started, I just like go outside and like, you know,

1789
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 5: shoot hoops my driveway by myself for like an hour

1790
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 5: and like not talk to anybody or something like that.

1791
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, it was you could hear a

1792
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 5: pin drop in my house when they were losing, like

1793
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 5: in a in a playoff game, you could.

1794
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 4: You could.

1795
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 5: There was no talking, there was no we wouldn't even

1796
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 5: look at each other. You just you just kind of

1797
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 5: sit there in silence. But Paul Way, what's your what's

1798
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 5: your favorite moment of this game? Because there's a lot

1799
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 5: of great moments out of this one.

1800
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 4: I think they just showed it. I think the double

1801
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 4: pass the place went absolutely ballistic in Edelman to a

1802
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 4: Mondola for the tying touchdown. One of the most underrated

1803
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 4: throws of Brady's career, however, is the winning touchdown, which

1804
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 4: is coming up shortly.

1805
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 5: So he actually he was on a radio show talking

1806
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 5: about his favorite throws that he has ever made, and

1807
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 5: he actually gave LaFell the credit for that one, said

1808
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 5: it was a tougher catch.

1809
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 4: It it was a tough catch, but I mean it

1810
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 4: was everything about that play, you know, and especially when

1811
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 4: you take into consideration the circumstances, you know, like that

1812
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 4: was that was great the I I loved those. Uh

1813
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 4: those playoff games with Baltimore were the best they had.

1814
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 4: I think they had four of them and went two

1815
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 4: and two. They were they were different. They were as

1816
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 4: the kids saying, he's built different.

1817
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 6: Well, they were like we didn't have many games that

1818
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 6: we were like really nervous about until really you got

1819
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 6: to the FC Championship the Super Bowl.

1820
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 2: But Baltimore, if like that was.

1821
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 4: Always like the dynasty. The first part of the dynasty.

1822
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 4: All of the playoff games were like that. The second

1823
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 4: part it was Tim Tebow, Brock Osweiler, like you're playing

1824
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 4: against guys that can't compete. Marcus Mariota my leaving out

1825
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 4: the tomato can the parade of the Tomato cans.

1826
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 5: It was sha in one of those Houston because they

1827
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 5: played Houston twice, right, I do think was one of them. Yeah,

1828
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 5: because I remember the brock Star because they they played.

1829
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 4: Ostwiler was definitely one, right, and then they played they

1830
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 4: played Houston. Oh my god, to catch the well.

1831
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 5: The other time is when when Gronk relanded on the

1832
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 5: on the forearm and rebroke his forearm. I think that

1833
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 5: was thirteen.

1834
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 4: That was That was a Houston game. Yeah, that was

1835
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 4: like a deceptively high scoring game.

1836
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Shane Vereen, I think a wheel route out of

1837
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 5: the backfield.

1838
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 4: Do you have a pick return in that game too?

1839
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 4: He might have. The Patriots had that game in control. Yeah,

1840
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,839
Speaker 4: but it was it was pretty high scoring.

1841
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 5: Got a young young dev right there, young Devin mccordy.

1842
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 3: Talking about one of the playoff games that stands out

1843
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 3: to me. I think it was a twenty fifteen Broncos

1844
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 3: one kind of snowy Pats old line was just so

1845
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 3: beat up. Yeah, they lost by one or something like that,

1846
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 3: But that's the game that always stands out to me.

1847
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one was tough because they lead the drive down,

1848
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 5: Brady has the fourth down throw to Gronkowski, which is

1849
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 5: definitely on his mad rush more of throws, and then

1850
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 5: he misses him on the two point conversion.

1851
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 3: Which Gokowski missed earlier.

1852
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then that was what ended up costing them

1853
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 5: the game.

1854
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 3: It was that the air where Harper muffed the punt.

1855
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 3: That's why it wasn't a Gillette.

1856
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 4: Oh when they lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, I can

1857
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 4: give you my cavalcade of BB screw ups that cost

1858
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 4: them a super Bowl that year. That would be one, yep,

1859
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 4: that's when it started. The mortar kick, the corpse of

1860
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 4: Stephen Jackson, Yeah, and kicking off in overtime. Those are

1861
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 4: four games you lost in the last seven weeks of

1862
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 4: the season that if you won any one of them,

1863
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 4: you would have hosted the AC Championship game. And I

1864
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 4: think you would have won it, yeah, if you hosted it.

1865
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 4: But that's just me. I'm crazy like that.

1866
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 5: I forgot about the hail Mary suspense.

1867
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 3: That ball was in the air for what felt like

1868
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 3: forty five seconds, well the two minutes.

1869
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 4: But that's even that's the hail Mary. The drive like,

1870
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 4: there was two things. One they should when they kicked

1871
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 4: a field goal to go up thirty one twenty eight.

1872
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 4: It should have been a touchdown, Yeah, I forget. I

1873
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 4: think it was Dennis Pitta dropped it dropped a touchdown

1874
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 4: and then they were moving again. When it was I

1875
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 4: think they were down thirty five thirty one. If you remember,

1876
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 4: both teams pretty much moved the BA at will in

1877
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 4: that game. Yeah, the the Ravens looked like they were

1878
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 4: going to respond and take the lead again. They had

1879
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 4: a good little drive going and for some reason Flacco

1880
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 4: went for it all and I think Deron Harmon that

1881
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 4: was one of his Mariano Rivera closers. Yeah, closer, and

1882
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 4: he came up with a big play. But I thought

1883
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 4: they took an unnecessary shot into the end zone that

1884
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 4: didn't need to happen there.

1885
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I didn't really. You always remember those

1886
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 5: hell Mary plays, and some of those are a lot

1887
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 5: closer than you remember when you see him again, right,

1888
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 5: you know that one tipped up.

1889
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 4: They're almost all close when you actually watched them in

1890
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 4: slow motion, like the uh, the Eagles one that the

1891
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 4: Patriots lost. Yeah, there was like they went up and

1892
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 4: everybody sort of batted it down and then one of

1893
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 4: the Eagles defenders sort of gets twisted and his arm

1894
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 4: goes up and hits the ball back up in the

1895
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 4: air a little bit by accident, totally not intentional, but

1896
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 4: it just fell in an area that were weren't it

1897
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 4: weren't any Patriots.

1898
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:03,600
Speaker 3: It's also crazy because like the Hail Mary is the

1899
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 3: one play in the NFL, Like the refs probably aren't

1900
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 3: gonna throw anything, like people are just.

1901
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 4: Getting people kill each other, and they should.

1902
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, like what was it was the

1903
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 3: Eagles one, Like Gronk was getting like he was getting

1904
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 3: jumped on by people.

1905
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can actually Hogan gets lit up, like

1906
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 4: the twenty yards just running down the field. Yeah.

1907
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 5: Then the second Giant Super Bowl, if healthy Gronk makes

1908
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 5: that catch up, healthy Gronk catches that on the shoe

1909
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,759
Speaker 5: strings and and they ride off into the sunset.

1910
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 4: That one.

1911
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 5: That one's also that Hill Mary's Razor Thin, which was

1912
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 5: the second Giant Super Bowl.

1913
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one that I think is an example of

1914
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 4: It looks a lot closer and super slow motion than

1915
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 4: it was. Yeah, like the balls kind of on the

1916
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 4: ground before Gronk dives for it. Yeah, you know.

1917
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna saying, if his ankle's healthy, is there ankle's healthy.

1918
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 4: Well, if his ankle is healthy, the game's all different

1919
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 4: if you were going to play that game.

1920
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 5: I just need the ankle to be healthy for that.

1921
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 5: I don't need the whole game.

1922
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 4: I don't need to be greedy. I just needed to

1923
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 4: be healthy on that one.

1924
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 2: Themselves kick in the CORTI kicks in right there.

1925
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 5: How one's still?

1926
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 4: Are you like that?

1927
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 5: Or do the the losses still stick with you even

1928
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 5: though they won six times?

1929
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 4: Like I know they they definitely do stick to me.

1930
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 4: And it's part of that whole sort of mantra that

1931
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 4: I have, Like I'm always worried about something. And I

1932
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 4: know this sounds incredibly selfish and sort of greedy, but

1933
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 4: I feel like they left some out there. Is this

1934
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 4: is this?

1935
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 5: If you've told me this before, I wasn't sure.

1936
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 4: Do you feel like I don't. I don't go all

1937
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 4: in on this one. And people that are listening are

1938
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 4: going to be like, since when does he hold back?

1939
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 4: I'm out of field? Like I normally do not care

1940
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 4: at all about the backlash that I get, because I

1941
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 4: get a lot of backlash, you know about a lot

1942
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 4: of things, not the least of witches being fat. But

1943
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 4: that happens, what are you going to do? I'm fat,

1944
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 4: I have to I have to live with that. I

1945
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 4: don't want to go all in on like how many

1946
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 4: super Bowls they should have won, But I do kind

1947
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 4: of think that they left. I think, oh, six is

1948
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 4: a glaring example. I think fifteen is a glaring example.

1949
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,839
Speaker 4: I think they left someone that. Now you can easily

1950
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 4: cut back and say, you know, if not for a

1951
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 4: play in what five of the six wins they could

1952
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 4: have lost? Absolutely valid, absolutely true. They could They easily

1953
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 4: could have lost to the Rams. They easily could have

1954
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 4: lost them.

1955
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 5: But isn't that why it feels like they won exactly

1956
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 5: the amount that they probably should have won.

1957
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 4: Probably, which is another reason why don't go all in.

1958
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 2: I really liked one of those Giants one, one.

1959
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 4: Of them, oh, the second Giants one. I think they

1960
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 4: were closer to winning than the first. The first one.

1961
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 4: To me, I thought they got like as thoroughly all

1962
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 4: played as you can get, with the exception of the

1963
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 4: very first drive of the game. Patriots went down the

1964
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 4: field bang just like they did every other time. Yeah

1965
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 4: O seven And after that the Giants kicked the snot

1966
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 4: out of them in that game. The second Giants game,

1967
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,560
Speaker 4: I thought the Giants star arted fast and the Patriots

1968
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 4: eventually I thought, took control of the game and that

1969
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 4: that double score to me was just like methodical long

1970
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 4: drive to end the second long drive to start the third.

1971
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 4: I was like, the Giants haven't had the ball in

1972
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 4: like an hour and a half, and the Patriots were

1973
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,759
Speaker 4: in complete control of this game until they weren't.

1974
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 3: I think the Eagle, the second Eagles one would have

1975
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 3: stung a lot more if they didn't win the next year,

1976
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 3: Like I think that game would drive me crazy, like

1977
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 3: Clement's foot out of bounds. Like you can always say

1978
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 3: everything that should have happened and get called, but that

1979
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 3: one would sting a lot more.

1980
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 4: That's what you come back to as a Patriots fan,

1981
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 4: not like why is Johnson Bademosi? That's the whole, that's

1982
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 4: a whole, separate com Why is Malcolm Butler on the

1983
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:48,480
Speaker 4: side of That's like maybe by a dimple of a football,

1984
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 4: a guy maybe wasn't in bounds when he caught a

1985
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 4: tough That's what you fall back. No, it'd fos out

1986
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 4: of bounds, but no, no, not necessarily.

1987
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 3: Not see that, like I think the Mountain was things

1988
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 3: a whole step story.

1989
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 4: You're talking about the babble. Yeah, it's close.

1990
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 5: It's close, But they they called it one way all

1991
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 5: year long, and then they did they did.

1992
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 4: They called it right in the championship. I agree, which

1993
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 4: every Patriots fan, if they had a hand on a Bible,

1994
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 4: would admit. No.

1995
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 5: I agree that that was the correct call. That just

1996
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 5: wasn't a consistent that.

1997
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 4: Zach Ertz one was not even close. He took three

1998
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 4: full strides before he dove into the end zone. Chris

1999
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 4: collins Wood said it was going to get overturned.

2000
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 5: Lives Oh god. Yeah, that's why I don't pay attention

2001
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 5: to Chris collins Worth. But I mean, look, it was

2002
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 5: the Jesse James play. You can talk about all these

2003
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 5: did the Eagles second Super Bowl? If the Patriots go

2004
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:43,560
Speaker 5: nineteen to oh, I'm all set for life. Like that's that.

2005
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 6: That was nineteen and oh and then everything we've done

2006
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 6: after that is nothing.

2007
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 4: You're cool with that, Yeah, you're cool with that. It's

2008
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 4: a good question, cool.

2009
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 2: With smart as clarify.

2010
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 5: It's a good question because this is something that I

2011
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:04,759
Speaker 5: have thought about way too much, is would I trade

2012
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 5: nineteen to oh for the other three Super Bowls that

2013
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 5: they won in the twenty tens. And it's like, how

2014
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 5: I imagine parents pick between two children, Like, how do

2015
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 5: you do that?

2016
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 4: Right?

2017
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:18,480
Speaker 5: Like, you can't do it. There's no good answer.

2018
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 2: As a confident favorite. I don't know. I don't think

2019
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 2: it's easy.

2020
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 4: I can't.

2021
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 5: I can't.

2022
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm not the favorite, so you can.

2023
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 2: Pay the favorite. You can't say it.

2024
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 4: Out loud, Yeah, I don't.

2025
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 5: I don't know if I can, if I can say

2026
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 5: that that fully, but I'm close. It's kind of like

2027
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 5: Paul with his opinion that they could have won more.

2028
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 5: I might trade the other three super Bowls for nineteen

2029
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 5: to No, I might do.

2030
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 3: It no Seahawks fifty one.

2031
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 2: I was older for the last year.

2032
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 6: I appreciated them so much more. I wasn't just like

2033
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 6: a young dumb kid.

2034
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 5: Well, I was in high school for nineteen to o

2035
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 5: as a like a freshman.

2036
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 6: I think I remember going home my a I am

2037
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 6: away message, just ranting away.

2038
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 5: I think you know the thing was for me is

2039
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 5: that at the time, Randy Moss was my favorite non

2040
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 5: Brady Patriot by far, not even close. So the fact

2041
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 5: that he didn't Win kills me. And the fact that

2042
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 5: you know that record breaking year ended the way that

2043
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 5: it did for him kills me. And I was also

2044
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 5: a huge Wes Welker guy because you know, as an

2045
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 5: undersized Caucasian man, I I thought, oh, well, Wes Welker

2046
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:36,440
Speaker 5: made it in the NFL, why can't I? Stupid, very stupidly.

2047
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,639
Speaker 5: So so I was a huge Wes Welker guy too

2048
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 5: because in Edelman, you know, also because of the same

2049
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 5: reason the I woman.

2050
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 2: Was Jewish, you'd think you'd have mortal I cling onto

2051
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:47,639
Speaker 2: with him.

2052
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, but West was first, you know. So but I

2053
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 5: truly believed that that like, oh, there's a path for me,

2054
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 5: Like I, I, you know, look at this.

2055
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 6: It's so funny because we talk about at all the

2056
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 6: community events, the guys are like, it's really important for

2057
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:04,839
Speaker 6: them to see what they can achieve.

2058
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 5: This you're giving us now now and fifteen years later,

2059
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 5: I can't even keep a straight face.

2060
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 4: Like thinking that there was a path ever that existed.

2061
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 4: That's awesome. This is so funny, just so you know,

2062
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 4: we are revisiting this one when so true, I thought

2063
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 4: I really believed. Okay, here's Wes Welker.

2064
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 5: He's like the same size as me in terms of

2065
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 5: like height, uh not way because he was on muscle

2066
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 5: and I was not, but height and all that kind

2067
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 5: of stuff, and I really felt like, I, you know,

2068
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 5: if I worked as hard as he did and I

2069
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 5: could do it, you know, Similarly in basketball, you know,

2070
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 5: I was a huge, huge JJ Redick fan because JJ

2071
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 5: Reddick was not the best athlete, but he was a

2072
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 5: dominant three point shooter and he made the NBA because

2073
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 5: he could shoot, and that was.

2074
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 3: It to this is why we need to do the Yeah,

2075
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 3: he's a lot bigger.

2076
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 4: Mark Price was one of the best shooters high school basketball.

2077
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 4: And what I mean, I wasn't a good basketball player,

2078
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 4: but all the were like, what Price Like, he's just

2079
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 4: like if you just work hard, like that's like my

2080
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 4: Price is ridiculously athletic point god.

2081
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: Like.

2082
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 4: Just because he wasn't considered athletic among his peters in

2083
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 4: the NBA doesn't mean he wasn't like way more skilled

2084
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,520
Speaker 4: than some joker playing.

2085
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 3: Like Scalabrini challenging people.

2086
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 2: To one on one, yeah, or like playing pickup.

2087
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 5: So that's different though, because Scal's like seven feet tall,

2088
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 5: so he's just like genetically bigger than you, even if

2089
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 5: he's not like more skilled at basketball. I was convinced

2090
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 5: that I had the exact same body type as Wes Welker,

2091
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 5: So why couldn't that be me?

2092
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,679
Speaker 3: Evan? This is why we need to have the content

2093
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 3: team combined.

2094
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 4: Because then you'll find out why it couldn't be me.

2095
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, it would still be so fun. Well, I

2096
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 2: want to do it.

2097
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 5: I don't know if I can sign up for that

2098
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 5: kind of embarrassment. I know my forty time right now

2099
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 5: is if I'm I'm lucky to break seven seconds.

2100
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 4: At this point, Andy did the combine for a big

2101
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 4: feature that we did one hundred years ago. But like

2102
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 4: the only thing he did, the only thing he did

2103
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 4: at any kind of a level, was the bench press.

2104
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 4: Why doesn't that surprise me? T t Rex? I don't know.

2105
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,759
Speaker 5: Would I trade second because it sucked? Would I trade

2106
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 5: nineteen to O for the other three Super Bowls?

2107
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,879
Speaker 4: I might? It's the great that's the great debate. I might. Basically,

2108
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 4: we're saying, if you had that and then but then

2109
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 4: Brady was going to retire and that's a bad that

2110
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 4: and you didn't have so like so it was a

2111
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 4: guarantee that you weren't going to win. Would you take that?

2112
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 4: That's the thing.

2113
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 5: If you told me that, you want to know seven

2114
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 5: and Brady didn't play for another decade after that, then

2115
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:45,640
Speaker 5: I'm easily taking O.

2116
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 4: Seven.

2117
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 5: But because he played for so long after the thing,

2118
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 5: it was a chance that like they did, it's literally

2119
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 5: giving up on a whole nother career for most quarterbacks, right,

2120
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 5: you know.

2121
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 4: It's did you see? I don't know? And you you

2122
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 4: would know this like there was one of those like

2123
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 4: strange stats that you can't believe is true. Thing about

2124
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 4: if you took away the seven Super Bowls that Brady has,

2125
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 4: he'd still be the number one all time in postseason

2126
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 4: touchdown passes and yards. It's crazy. Now what what I

2127
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 4: need a little bit further context? Like you're telling me

2128
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 4: you're taking away twenty two games, Like so the six

2129
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 4: times they won with the Patriots, that's eighteen games, three

2130
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 4: three games through the play plus the Tampa one was

2131
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 4: four games. So that's you know, you're taking away all

2132
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,759
Speaker 4: of those games or you're just taking away the actual

2133
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. I would assume it's just the actual because

2134
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 4: it didn't seem to be plausible. But if you took

2135
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 4: away like the playoff runs all seven times he won

2136
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. That's amazing. If he's still you know,

2137
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 4: I know that, like you could do like he had

2138
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame career twice. I know that whole thing.

2139
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that's my point with those seven is you're

2140
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 5: you're giving up a Hall of Fame career in Dynasty

2141
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 5: two point zero by cutting it off, you know, seven.

2142
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 5: So that does make it a little bit difficult.

2143
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 2: You miss the whole Gronk era.

2144
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 4: Who says that Gronk didn't come?

2145
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 5: Ye know, why can't he? Why can't it be like.

2146
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 2: Gronks? Like, Yo, I'm not playing with this scrubb. I'm

2147
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 2: out like Drew bloodsoe whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

2148
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,600
Speaker 5: I'm saying, my friend, I'm saying it could be like

2149
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 5: Drew and Ben Coats, which wasn't I was.

2150
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 4: Going to say, he would have been just fine, right,

2151
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 4: it would have been fine.

2152
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 5: That was my point. I wasn't a shot at Drew.

2153
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit of shot.

2154
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 4: It was a little bit.

2155
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:40,799
Speaker 2: We're saying, you're missing Brady and Gronk together.

2156
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 5: I know that one is tough.

2157
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 4: That is tough.

2158
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 2: Let it marinade.

2159
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 5: This has been marinating for for five years. I go

2160
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 5: back and forth. Let's take one one more call here

2161
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 5: from from Vancouver, all the way up in Canada, from Paul.

2162
01:42:58,720 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 5: What's up, Paul?

2163
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 8: Hey?

2164
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 12: Well, how you doing today?

2165
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 4: Good?

2166
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 2: How are you all right?

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Speaker 15: Paul?

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Speaker 12: Don't you feel kind of old when the other says

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01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 12: things like I was in high school when the yes

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Speaker 12: two thousand seven.

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01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't hate him as much as I do Alex,

2172
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:15,480
Speaker 4: but yes.

2173
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 12: I was in university for the pad Bears Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're old. You're older than me? Wow? Oh yeah,

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01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's impressive. I was my senior year of

2176
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 4: high school. Only take a shot.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, but I would still take Evan on him for

2178
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 12: a forty yard dash thing, pretty damn good cape.

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01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 4: For not me. I would pull a hand if I

2180
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 4: tried to run as fast as I could for forty yards.

2181
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 4: There was a zero percent chance that I wouldn't pull

2182
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 4: my hands.

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01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 3: You should see me in the pickup kickball league. Almost

2184
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 3: ripped the hamstering off the bone.

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01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 5: More of a three tone guy. Just the fact that

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01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 5: you quicker take part.

2187
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 2: In of when's last time you sprinted?

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01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 5: Sprinted? Yeah?

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01:43:58,120 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 2: Me, you too?

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01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 4: Oh I covid covid yeah. I was running a lot

2191
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 4: in COVID and I used to sprint at the ends.

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01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:07,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, well I sprint.

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01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 12: Uh, I sprint all the time. I'm I'm a basketball referee, so.

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01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 4: You don't sprint if you're a basketball That's like saying

2195
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 4: Marcus smartt plays good tough defense.

2196
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 12: Oh I just uh, I just did the I just

2197
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:26,600
Speaker 12: did a game last weekend here in Vancouver with the

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01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 12: the provincial under seventeen boys team versus a university university team.

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01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,719
Speaker 12: I thin because they the evincial teams going the national next month,

2200
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 12: and they wanted to practice seven second offenses. So I

2201
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 12: was up and down that court.

2202
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 4: Real real foun Yeah, courts base.

2203
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 5: I'm a little surprised that basketball not hockey up there.

2204
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 12: Uh yeah, well Paul, Yeah, I know it's only half

2205
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 12: one there. But I run fifty k's a week too,

2206
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 12: so oh wow. So I do do a storiety of stuff.

2207
01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 12: But anyway, I got a question for you with the

2208
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 12: NBA had their draft last week and the NHL, well,

2209
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 12: right now it's all going around two to seventh right yep,

2210
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:10,839
Speaker 12: And both of them are going to start free agency

2211
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 12: next week. But the NFL has it the other way around.

2212
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 12: I know the current system came about more from litigation

2213
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 12: than really planning, but I do kind of think it's

2214
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 12: backwards for the NFL because there's way more players drafted

2215
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 12: in the NFL are going to play next year than

2216
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 12: it's going to especially in NHL. Right it's maybe three

2217
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:35,679
Speaker 12: or four guys that might be there next year. They're

2218
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 12: drafted this yesterday today, and the team purposes, building purposes,

2219
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 12: don't you think it's better to you, you know, and

2220
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 12: it's more opportunity to get best player available there first

2221
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 12: and then plug your needs in free agency. And then

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01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 12: for the players, I think it's beneficial to them that

2223
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 12: they can hold sort of desperate teams over the a

2224
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 12: little bit and they might be able to get rid

2225
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 12: of all these free agencies to wait, they might really

2226
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 12: have rid of these many camps and you know, mandatory

2227
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 12: things that they don't want to go to anyway. So

2228
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 12: I do an you think there's any momentum to change this,

2229
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 12: or you just thinks I'm just going to go with

2230
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 12: it and a better system.

2231
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 4: Or yeah, there has been talk about flip flopping the timing,

2232
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 4: and I do understand, I don't necessarily understand what the

2233
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 4: second part of that was with I don't know how

2234
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 4: that would impact.

2235
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 5: Not if free agency is not until May one?

2236
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 4: Oh no, they would never do that, right, They would

2237
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 4: move the draft up. I wouldn't because you can't push

2238
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:44,640
Speaker 4: the Yeah, think about when free agency is for the

2239
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 4: NFL and I mean the NBA. In the NHL, it's

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Speaker 4: like two weeks after the season. It's the same timing

2241
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 4: as the NFL. The difference is the draft coincides with it,

2242
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 4: and for some reason they have the draft two months

2243
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 4: later in the NFL, And people have talked about that,

2244
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 4: wouldn't it make more sense? And I agree from if

2245
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 4: I were an owner, I would rather have the draft

2246
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 4: than free agency because now I'm not necessarily having to

2247
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 4: spend one hundred million dollars to get somebody because I

2248
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 4: desperately need that somebody. So I think now I can

2249
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 4: see if I can fill it in the draft, and

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01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,839
Speaker 4: then if I can't, then I do free agency.

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Speaker 5: I just I think that the the main thing to

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01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 5: me that presents the issue there is is planning in

2253
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 5: prep work for the draft for the pro personnel side

2254
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 5: gets really difficult because the.

2255
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:35,599
Speaker 4: Coach is not going to change.

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01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 5: But right, I mean, you know, the coaches like Bill

2257
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 5: Belichick's to the GM and he's making the picks. He's

2258
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:44,640
Speaker 5: coaching until you know, mid January or early January, and

2259
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 5: then you're telling him that he's got a draft in

2260
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 5: two months instead of three or four months. Like that's

2261
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:51,680
Speaker 5: that's a really quick turnaround.

2262
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 4: Oh, I would do it even quicker than that.

2263
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,839
Speaker 5: I think that's too quick because you have the combine

2264
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 5: you have.

2265
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:58,560
Speaker 4: I would have it. I would have it at the

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01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 4: beginning of March. I would have it the season ends,

2267
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 4: first week of February. I'll give you a few weeks.

2268
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 4: But it's never going to go back because they've turned

2269
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 4: it into a money making machine with the nonsense and

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01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 4: they're not competing now.

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01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 5: It's a completely nonsense, yeah, especially now with the next

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01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 5: gen type stuff. But it's it's also spreads out the

2273
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:21,600
Speaker 5: calendar so that you have these these different.

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01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 2: The NFL's relevant all your cycle point.

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01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 4: Right, they'll they'll never change it back. But the other

2276
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 4: sports have to do the same thing. Like you have

2277
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 4: your scouts and your general managers are the ones that

2278
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:32,680
Speaker 4: make the picks in the draft.

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01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:35,679
Speaker 5: Right, But I think in other sports for the most part,

2280
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 5: and some teams in the NBA I don't even know

2281
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 5: if this is true in the NBA anymore. They're like

2282
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 5: Tom Thibodeaux. I remember he was like everything at one

2283
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 5: point in time, but that doesn't happen quite as often,

2284
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 5: I feel like, and there's not as much overlap. I

2285
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 5: don't know, I feel like it would be really difficult.

2286
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 5: I come at it from an angle of in the

2287
01:48:55,360 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 5: media and the cramming in the draft prep because you're

2288
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 5: all Pro football in the in the in the fall

2289
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 5: and winter, and I'm not even doing anywhere near the

2290
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 5: amount of work.

2291
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 2: You have. A team of scouts are department.

2292
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, they still have

2293
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,799
Speaker 5: to have you know, in our case, the head coach

2294
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,799
Speaker 5: go through the scouting how many times do you hear.

2295
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 4: The term that guy really rose or fell in there?

2296
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 4: Because that's when the coaches get involved. And I would

2297
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 4: argue that that's probably a bad thing.

2298
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 5: I would say that it's it doesn't need to be

2299
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 5: quite as much time. I would agree, But I I

2300
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 5: think the biggest thing is in like the Combine, it's

2301
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 5: a it's a ratings bonanza, so they're probably going to

2302
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 5: keep it for the money side of things, but they

2303
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 5: they could literally do away with the Combine and the

2304
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 5: league itself wouldn't suffer from it. Now they need the

2305
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 5: medical checks and they and they in the in person

2306
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 5: interviews I think are important as well. That happened in Indie.

2307
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 5: But the actual event on the field, the forty that

2308
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 5: type of stuff, if it wasn't a money making machine,

2309
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 5: they don't. It's not practical. They don't need it any day.

2310
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 5: But the Pro Days is the big thing for me

2311
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 5: as well. And if you're gonna you have all these

2312
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 5: schools that hold these pro days and in these scouting

2313
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 5: departments and coaches need to go to all the pro days,

2314
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 5: you need to. You need to leave a little bit

2315
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 5: of an alley.

2316
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 4: That's why they can run so bad at it.

2317
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 3: Do you think ten years the Combine is gonna be around.

2318
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 5: Ultimately, Yes, because I can't imagine the NFL giving up

2319
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 5: the money. But I mean there's teams that didn't even

2320
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 5: go to the Combine this year. Some of the really

2321
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 5: analytically driven and younger regimes didn't even go. And nowadays

2322
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 5: you have all this this data from like next gen

2323
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 5: technology where you can get in game speed like how

2324
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 5: they're running in actually doing their their jobs instead of

2325
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 5: just running in spandex and in the combine.

2326
01:50:59,640 --> 01:50:59,720
Speaker 9: Now.

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01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 5: The only difference is is that that data only goes

2328
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 5: back so far, whereas a scout that's been doing this

2329
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 5: for one hundred years, he has forty times for generations, right,

2330
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 5: so he can say, you know, compare that his hand

2331
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 5: times from this year to ten years ago. And maybe

2332
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 5: you wouldn't be able to do that with the chip,

2333
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:18,799
Speaker 5: you know, the next gen stuff.

2334
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

2335
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 5: It's it's a cram session.

2336
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 4: They're never It's never going to happen for all the

2337
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:27,959
Speaker 4: reasons that we already said. But I could understand the rationale.

2338
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 4: The other three sports basically do it differently, but it's

2339
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 4: never going to change. Has become a huge thing in

2340
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 4: the NFL.

2341
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 5: I also don't even see it as a as a

2342
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 5: advantage to the veteran players that are free agents to

2343
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 5: have the draft being first. I think it's actually a disadvantage.

2344
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 4: Yes, I think it would be an advantage to the teams,

2345
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 4: the owners. Yeah, I agree with you.

2346
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2347
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 3: An off season change i'd like to see is set

2348
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 3: like a tampering period or a free agency for coaches,

2349
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, two weeks after the Super

2350
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 3: Bowl like now, he like all coaches.

2351
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 5: So the so the question the problem with that is

2352
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 5: that you know that there's tampering going on anyways. Jonathan Gannon, Hello,

2353
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 5: But at the same time I agree with you one

2354
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 5: hundred and ten percent that it's an absolute mess. It's

2355
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 5: a conflict of interest across the board.

2356
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 4: And you're right.

2357
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:22,799
Speaker 5: The best thing to do is to say we're all coaching.

2358
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 5: Hiring is going to start, you know, after the Super Bowl.

2359
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:30,800
Speaker 5: But the problem with Dad is that you lose a month, right,

2360
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 5: So the teams that are eliminated don't make the playoffs,

2361
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 5: they want to get to work, right, and so you

2362
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 5: lose all that time. But I'm with you on that

2363
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 5: as well, that it's it's it's totally a mess.

2364
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 4: So I want to end sort of where we started

2365
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 4: with Devonte Parker because I wanted to get you you

2366
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 4: had some numbers on his targets and whatnot. Analytically, you

2367
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 4: want to repeat those a little bit because those are

2368
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 4: positive numbers for Parker.

2369
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, so on a per target per reception basis, he

2370
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 5: was one of the better big play receivers in the

2371
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 5: league last year, uh seventeen point four yards per reception.

2372
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 5: He didn't qualify for the the leader board and yards

2373
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 5: per reception, but would have been top five in the

2374
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:15,799
Speaker 5: league if he had eleven point five yards per target

2375
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 5: at a ninety two wide receivers that's the second best,

2376
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 5: only behind Jalen Waddle and yards per target. And he's

2377
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 5: a guy that doesn't drop very many passes. I think

2378
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,680
Speaker 5: he had one drop all of last year. So the

2379
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 5: nerds the math does like him quite a bit other

2380
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 5: than the separation metrics.

2381
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 4: So that was Warren Shops, So I'm going to ignore

2382
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding with Warren. I'm going to ignore him.

2383
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 4: So true what's true media?

2384
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 5: True media is like any like a PFF for They're.

2385
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 4: Fine, Okay, So I read this today. He ranked fifty

2386
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 4: six in the league and yards per route run and

2387
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 4: didn't rank in the top one hundred and fifty and

2388
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 4: targets per route. He only had one game all year.

2389
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 5: With eighty it's the Baltimore game.

2390
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 4: So I think there are metrics to sort of the

2391
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 4: reason I bring this up. And I'm going to end

2392
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,679
Speaker 4: the same way I started. I'm perfectly fine with having

2393
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 4: Devata Parker on my team. I worry about what it

2394
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 4: might mean down the road, not fact, not factually just

2395
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 4: concern like, does it mean no Hopkins? Does it mean well,

2396
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 4: we're a little worried about a guy like the Wharton specifically,

2397
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 4: but on a lesser extent Booty and Douglas. Do we

2398
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 4: not see anything from them? Are we so concerned that

2399
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 4: we need to have veteran receivers under contract for twenty

2400
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 4: four and beyond. I'm a little concerned about that. Tease.

2401
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 3: Final thoughts on Parker Yep, I like it whatever, like

2402
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 3: above average receiver, one of the Like, he's fine. I

2403
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 3: like it.

2404
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 5: Still go for Hopkins, though I wish everybody on Twitter

2405
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 5: had the same read back attitude as Matis.

2406
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 6: I like Parker more than I think most people do.

2407
01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 6: I am excited to give him another year and a

2408
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 6: more competent functional offense, to see what happens, just along

2409
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 6: for the ride.

2410
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 3: If you let like, if you let him go, if

2411
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 3: you trade him like I think you're, I think there's

2412
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 3: more value to keeping him on the team than let

2413
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 3: him walk or trading him or cutting him this off season.

2414
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 5: I will say when he when he did miss time

2415
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 5: with that concussion last year, it was kind of a

2416
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 5: reflection of where they were. But you did kind of

2417
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 5: feel like he could help.

2418
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 4: If they punted every possession with him and they punted

2419
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 4: every possession without him. Okay they did.

2420
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 2: It's harsh.

2421
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 4: They like third from the bottom and three and outs

2422
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 4: something like that.

2423
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 2: Making my goal to get him to come out of this.

2424
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 5: I think I.

2425
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 2: Tooks.

2426
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that's happening.

2427
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 2: I don't make it happen.

2428
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 5: Okay, I trust you. He doesn't like me. No, No,

2429
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 5: I'm just kidding.

2430
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 4: He trust her. She's broken hearted because Marcus Smart is

2431
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 4: on the Memphis Grizzlies, and you trust.

2432
01:55:58,360 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 2: Him broken hearted. I'm a grisliness fan.

2433
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 5: I trust her to see when we're in the locker room.

2434
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 5: A little little behind the scenes here, we're in the

2435
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 5: locker room. They love talking to Alex. They don't like

2436
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 5: talking to me as much because I want to, like

2437
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 5: I want things that they can't tell me, you know,

2438
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 5: like what route were you running here?

2439
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 4: What where?

2440
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 5: What was the play call there?

2441
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:16,640
Speaker 4: Or whatever?

2442
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 5: But like, yeah, Alex keeps it light.

2443
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 2: They think I'm like, they come up to her.

2444
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 4: What's going on? What's me?

2445
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 5: They're like, I can't say anything in front of this kid,

2446
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 5: So give me the side, Alex, do you want to

2447
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 5: mint it? On Marcus Smart, you want to pour one out.

2448
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 5: You were here when this happened.

2449
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 6: I know I took so I was packing for a

2450
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 6: flight when the trade's all happening.

2451
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, Brogdon's gone.

2452
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 4: Whatever.

2453
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 6: Okay, Brad, I see you, like this is a piece

2454
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 6: we need cool wake up at three thirty am to

2455
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 6: catch my flight. My favorite players not on the team anymore.

2456
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 6: It was a sad day. I don't get it. I

2457
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 6: was like, okay, like the two draft picks must have

2458
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 6: really swayed it here. Then the draft came and I

2459
01:56:58,560 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 6: just I don't know.

2460
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

2461
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 5: Can I ask you? And I'm not being being optusey?

2462
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 4: He or what?

2463
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 5: What made Marcus Smart your favorite player? Because I did.

2464
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:10,080
Speaker 5: He definitely has.

2465
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 2: The way he plays.

2466
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 6: I would have loved to play basketball with him. He

2467
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 6: he's just gritty, he cares.

2468
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 2: I love the way he sees the game. I like

2469
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 2: the way facilitate the way you were.

2470
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 4: Were you a big scorer?

2471
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 2: I was a point guard. I was pretty scrappy.

2472
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 4: Okay, so you wouldn't have minded playing with him? Then

2473
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 4: that would be fine because you're not really looking for

2474
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 4: the ball to score or do anything. So no problem.

2475
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 4: If I'm Jason Tatum or Jayaln Brown, I don't necessarily

2476
01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 4: want to play with that.

2477
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:38,600
Speaker 2: Who is the assist leader on that team. I don't

2478
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:39,040
Speaker 2: even know what.

2479
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 4: The numbers were, but assist leader.

2480
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 2: I like defensive basketball. I think I do too. They

2481
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 2: want to get back to that, and I.

2482
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 4: Think, and I think this is a state to continue.

2483
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 6: To make some moves because I think we lost a

2484
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 6: lot of our heart, we lost a lot of our grit.

2485
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm using our two which.

2486
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 5: I haven't done a while, and he lost We gotta,

2487
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 5: you know, against a little bit. But this is my

2488
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 5: one little pushback about the heart and soul of the

2489
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 5: Celtics going to UH to Memphis all playoffs long. And

2490
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 5: I defend the Celtics. I'm a green teamer, I'm a

2491
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 5: season ticket holder. I love the Celtics to death all

2492
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 5: playoffs long. Though I hear about they have no balls,

2493
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:23,000
Speaker 5: they have no grit, they have no toughness. They they

2494
01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 5: wilt in the biggest moments, and now they've lost their

2495
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 5: heart and now they've lost they lost.

2496
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 6: That great Always you can find me saying on this

2497
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 6: radio show, they have one point five dogs on this team.

2498
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 6: Marcus and Kind of like and Derek White and now.

2499
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:41,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, so do you think?

2500
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 6: And this is my it's also Tatum's favorite player ever

2501
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 6: he's ever played with.

2502
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 2: That means something to me. When that's my star I'm

2503
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 2: building my franchise around.

2504
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 5: I'll get over it.

2505
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 4: I don't think he cares enough.

2506
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 5: So here here's my thing, my one thing that I'm

2507
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 5: hopeful for. And I want your take on this. What

2508
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 5: if in order for Tatum to be be the dog,

2509
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 5: to be the alpha, they needed to move Marcus out

2510
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 5: of the picture, Like what if this Tatum now sees this,

2511
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 5: this leadership void, this this you know, alpha toil it?

2512
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,120
Speaker 6: Or do you think it's gonna be Jalen taking upon

2513
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 6: himself because I I'll tell Jalen.

2514
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to any of those. As

2515
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 4: you know, I am well established. I worry about things

2516
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 4: that haven't happened. I just know that it wasn't going

2517
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 4: to happen with Marcus Smart being in that alpha role.

2518
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:29,320
Speaker 4: It was not ever going to work.

2519
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:31,240
Speaker 6: But I don't think he necessarily wanted to be in

2520
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 6: the alpha role. I think he was like, all right,

2521
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:34,720
Speaker 6: no one else has all I.

2522
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 2: Think it was like all right, if no one else

2523
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 2: is gonna give a damn.

2524
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 4: I just guess the last five minutes of a close

2525
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 4: game where he doesn't have to be out there. That's

2526
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 4: what I'm most looking forward to. I think we're gonna

2527
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 4: so maybe when different this one guy completely uncovered, that

2528
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 4: guy might be able to.

2529
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna miss the smart.

2530
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 4: When he made it. I would have to have heard

2531
01:59:58,200 --> 01:59:58,840
Speaker 4: that to miss it.

2532
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:00,640
Speaker 3: Oh, you know the six games. I watched it the

2533
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 3: greatest bar. I'm screaming it.

2534
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 4: But we'll see, we'll see. It's gonna be an interesting

2535
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 4: I think.

2536
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 6: I think the move itself on paper is like probably

2537
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:11,280
Speaker 6: a good move.

2538
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:13,320
Speaker 2: We had a lot of guard depth, I think.

2539
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 6: I mean I told you like, I'd like to have

2540
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 6: a guy like Siam or someone come in. We need

2541
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 6: like a big Al's too old now, So it's like

2542
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 6: on paper, I like the move it just like I

2543
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:23,960
Speaker 6: liked it better when it was Brogden.

2544
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, we all liked it better when it was brogged.

2545
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 5: I agree with that. But Paul, don't tell because I

2546
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:32,240
Speaker 5: have to. I have to bring this up in front

2547
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:36,360
Speaker 5: of Alex. Paul told me when this trade happened that

2548
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 5: Brogden is a better defender than Marcus Smart.

2549
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 4: He's a better player.

2550
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 2: I said, defensive player of the Year.

2551
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 4: He's told me that a number of times. I'm well

2552
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:48,560
Speaker 4: aware that he was the d p O Y better

2553
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 4: defellow player.

2554
02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 2: I think we'll see it all. We'll see it all

2555
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 2: shake out next year.

2556
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 4: I think they're comparable defensively. I think they both sucked defensively.

2557
02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:01,040
Speaker 4: Do you think I think. I think his career Brockton

2558
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:03,360
Speaker 4: was a good defensive player. I don't think he was

2559
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:07,280
Speaker 4: last year, Okay, but I know Smart wasn't. All right.

2560
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 5: Well, we gotta wrap. We gotta land this plane. That's

2561
02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 5: my job to land the plane. So let's see how

2562
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 5: this goes. We we don't have a show on Tuesday

2563
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 5: because it's America's birthday, so we take the back Thursday.

2564
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:22,880
Speaker 5: We back on Thursday. I think everybody's back. I think

2565
02:01:22,920 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 5: the gang is back. I want to I do want

2566
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 5: to take take a minute to thank Matisse, thank you

2567
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 5: for filling in. And you won't have to hear me

2568
02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:34,360
Speaker 5: host next week because I think.

2569
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 2: Du is coming back. I don't have to.

2570
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 6: I don't have to watch Duce's house anymore, saying I've

2571
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 6: been staying at Chateau Deuce. I don't know if the

2572
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:43,680
Speaker 6: listeners know holding it down.

2573
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 5: I can't say see you next Tuesday, so we'll see

2574
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:48,480
Speaker 5: you next Thursday.

2575
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:56,040
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