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Speaker 1: Keep It Positive Sweety is available on Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: Positive Sweety. That's Sweety with an Ie to listen. Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive Sweety.

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Speaker 1: I'm Christinete Hazlet and guys, guess what we are in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I finally brought kIPS to La Guys, I

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Speaker 1: want to sit down and talk to some of my

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Speaker 1: friends here that couldn't get to Atlanta, so we are here.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited. I want to thank thirteen Loon.

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Speaker 1: We are here at this beautiful black owned establishment owned

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Speaker 1: by Nikayo Graco, where ninety percent of her products that

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Speaker 1: she sells are Bipop founded. Guys, make sure you stop

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Speaker 1: don't know where it is, just google it and pull

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Speaker 1: up on my girl. For this episode, I am talking

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Speaker 1: to someone that I'm very close to that I've known

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Speaker 1: four years. I'm so excited to have her is responsible

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Speaker 1: for a lot of the hairstyles that you've seen me

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Speaker 1: rock on red carpets, and so many other people, just

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Speaker 1: to name a few, Tyra Banks, Angela Bassett Shaka Khan,

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Speaker 1: Laverne Cox Sierra. It's so many people that if it's flies,

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Speaker 1: she probably doesn't need it. I'm telling you, but I

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Speaker 1: have with me. Kaya right, guys. Kaya is a two

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Speaker 1: time Emmy Award winning celebrity hairstyles whose genius has not

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Speaker 1: only set the president for image making, but has redefined

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Speaker 1: the appearance of sexy, successful and confident women. Kaya is

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Speaker 1: a fashion powerhouse with expercise ranging from signature hairstyle designs

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Speaker 1: to overall beauty consultation and transformation. As a charismatic visionary,

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Speaker 1: this creative trendsetter has established her mark in the industry

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Speaker 1: and continues to inspire with cutting edge developments and groundbreaking achievements.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Kaya.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, I am so excited to be here.

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Speaker 3: I'm always liked can tell everything y'all with the shows

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Speaker 3: you keep podcast.

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Speaker 1: I just appreciate your continued support over the years. Today

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about continuous invention, and that is

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Speaker 1: what I think about you. You have reinvented yourself over

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Speaker 1: the years. You've been doing this for thirty years, and

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Speaker 1: you have been doing it. You know people wish they could, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you've been doing it for thirty years and when I

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Speaker 1: think about you, I think about this quote and it

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Speaker 1: says there are no shortcuts in evolution. We should be

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Speaker 1: consistent in evolution and adapt to the new without ever

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Speaker 1: losing our essence or our integrity. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: that is something you have done.

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Speaker 2: Like that little integrity. Oh that's what I love that. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think about when I think of you.

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Speaker 1: You are constantly evolving with the times. I was telling

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Speaker 1: my team, I said, I feel like there are some

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Speaker 1: artists and you can tell by their work that they

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Speaker 1: literally learned whenever they learned years ago and never kept

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Speaker 1: up with the times. With you, like I can be like,

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Speaker 1: how did you like?

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Speaker 2: Oh got it? Like you're on it, Like you keep

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Speaker 2: up with the times.

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Speaker 1: Whatever's in you know how to do it, And a

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Speaker 1: lot of times you're ahead of the times. That's all

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Speaker 1: I love about you. You can be like, no, we

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Speaker 1: need to do this, and then you see a year

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Speaker 1: later people are doing what you said.

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Speaker 2: Do a year ago exactly. That's exactly how you are.

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Speaker 2: We met.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't want to say that came of

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Speaker 3: It was the Jamie Fox and Gabrielli because I was

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Speaker 3: doing gab you were doing jail right, oh, t exactly

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Speaker 3: on the show. And yeah, the year it was, it's

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Speaker 3: over ten years. Yeah, it's over ten years. And ever

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Speaker 3: since then we've been.

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Speaker 2: Like, yes, love I love it.

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Speaker 1: I remember meeting you and we worked I think it

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Speaker 1: was three months on that movie. Yes, it was hot

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Speaker 1: Atlanta summer.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and we were backstage. We got to talk every day,

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Speaker 2: Yes. That.

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Speaker 1: So I want to go back to your growing up,

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Speaker 1: where she really started from. Now. Were you the type

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Speaker 3: Hair, yes, and don't play with my dogs, like I

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Speaker 3: would be real territorial too, like had the little barbies,

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Speaker 2: Then I had the barbies.

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Speaker 3: Grandma would buy me all the barbies, like, please don't

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Speaker 3: touch my barbies, Like I would be real territorial with

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Speaker 3: the styling and putting the clothes, like, yes, it really

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Speaker 2: I was doing hair, nails everything.

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Speaker 3: I was fourteen, fourteen, My mom had just passed and

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Speaker 2: Me in hair school.

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Speaker 3: So back then hair school was in a was as

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Speaker 3: you took it as a train, so like back then

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Speaker 3: it had carping electrician and I could take up cosmetology.

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Speaker 3: So I took up cosmetology, paid one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: My mom passed away.

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Speaker 3: It was like literally she put me right in hair

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Speaker 3: So that really was like it really did spearhead. That

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Speaker 3: gave me a jump start at like making it a career, right,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I didn't know it was

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Speaker 3: going to be a career. I just thought, like, I'm

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Speaker 3: hanging out with the hot girls or whatever. And I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, buddy, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I started doing hair sneaking people. I didn't have

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Speaker 2: I would do the little hump nails and if the

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Speaker 2: little I did. Yes, I did everything to just make money,

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Speaker 3: So that's really really how I started.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's how I started at home, right, And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure just your mom looking down is like super proud

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Speaker 1: that the sea that she sold a long time ago. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the room that it's made for you in your life, yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, it's been a it's been a

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Speaker 2: I didn't go for it.

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Speaker 3: It was just it kind of I've never had another job.

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Speaker 2: I didn't go for it. I didn't go for it,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I never had another job

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, you know, I went from fourteen,

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Speaker 3: I was trying to hustle to make money.

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Speaker 2: I tried to sow drugs.

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Speaker 2: I need to make money, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Because what was I gonna do my grandma My mom

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Speaker 2: And I went in there and.

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Speaker 3: They trained me like boot camp. They would be making

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Speaker 3: I'm one of those people. I could watch you and

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Speaker 2: Could just copy it. Yeah, really good at that. And

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Speaker 2: And from there I knew. I was like, okay, I

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Speaker 3: My friends, all the drug dealer girlfriends.

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Speaker 2: So those were the girls that I sort of started with.

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Speaker 3: And they helped me like become a trendsetter.

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Speaker 2: You know. That was the beginning, you know, DC doing

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Speaker 1: D I always had trade DC to where I found

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Speaker 1: myself because after college, I moved to d C. I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we fly are.

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Speaker 3: New York was like cooler, they had the fashion, but

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Speaker 3: DC women were just like really into you know what

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Speaker 3: And I was really just I just wanted to be

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Speaker 3: And I started with those guys two years and I

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Speaker 3: before I went to them, I said, they say, no,

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Speaker 2: I went down literally down the alley and.

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Speaker 3: I took my entire clientele and that was the beginning

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Speaker 3: of me becoming an entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1: WO right there, so talking about entrepreneur and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't know after DC, you did so many things.

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Speaker 1: Walk us through the journey to get us to where

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Speaker 1: you are now. Because people think that entrepreneurship the way

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Speaker 1: we make it look is easy. They see you have

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Speaker 1: your ONW salon, you do the celebrities. But walk us

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Speaker 1: through what it took to get to that point, starting

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Speaker 1: from leaving that one salon.

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Speaker 2: I think that helped me make the decision.

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Speaker 3: Like I always say, there's no plan B, but I

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Speaker 3: I was like, what am I going to do with

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Speaker 2: I always give that as advice.

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Speaker 2: Never. I was like, that was just everything, because when

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Speaker 2: And she had these too, a ball here, the boy here,

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Speaker 3: And a million people wrote in, Oh my god. Two

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Speaker 3: It was even when I looked back and saying that

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Speaker 2: I learned a big lesson.

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Speaker 1: actually make everything come together and actually work.

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00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: It affected you all as well.

443
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 1: Can you tell us how your faith had to take

444
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 1: a take a seat, how your faith had to play

445
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 1: a part in getting you through, because I know the

446
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 1: pandemic was everybody.

447
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 2: But a few years later you get here with the strike.

448
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 1: Girl, because we talked during the strike and you were like, girl, yeah,

449
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: but let's.

450
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 2: Not forget right now. We're on a strike.

451
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: Hair makeup and teamsters could possibly right now today we're

452
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 3: on strike right now.

453
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, right now.

454
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 3: But we I don't know if we're going to actually strike,

455
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: but we're in the heavy negotiations. If the teamsters do

456
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 3: not go to work, there will be no one going.

457
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: So they're not going to play games with them, no,

458
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I would and I.

459
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: Would say, like even for hair and makeup, how important

460
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 3: we are.

461
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: So I'm out of COVID.

462
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 3: You know that was a big time for me because

463
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, right now I'm about to launch my line.

464
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 3: It's twenty nineteen. I done got my big loan. I'm

465
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 3: ready to like launches kaboom. I will never forget to

466
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 3: day when I and my salon is not a big salon.

467
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 3: I've never been big on owning a salon. I just

468
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: never felt that that was where the money was. I am,

469
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: you know, I'm about products, education like things like that.

470
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 3: That's really where I see the next part of my

471
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 3: career path. I've always saw it thin. So I opened

472
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: up a suite here in Beverly Hills. The salon business

473
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 3: has really changed. First off, it went from like salons

474
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: they're more in the South and things like that. But

475
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: now with the salon sweet business that has really taken

476
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: everybody forefront in business, you know what I mean, entrepreneurship,

477
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: boss women, everybody want to be a boss. So the

478
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 3: sweet business is like the perfect transition. So that's what

479
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 3: I kind of moved into back in twenty sixteen. I

480
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 3: went from a salon the warrn't you call me my

481
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: dream salon right into a suite and so I get

482
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 3: my money I'm about to go through, and I just

483
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 3: go through, uh you know, funding my own brand, and

484
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 3: the strike happens. I never forget the day because I

485
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 3: was like always praying for like time off. Damn. He's

486
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 3: like you want, oh God, here you go, time off.

487
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 3: You'd never forget it because it felt like like when

488
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: you watch those movies like that Will Smith movie when

489
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: the World, when everything went out in the world and

490
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: the world legend, yes, and everything just stopped. When I

491
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 3: tell you when that happened that day, and they said,

492
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: when all the noise kept happening about their main shure down,

493
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: the businesses d D you kept watching the news, the

494
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: DADA and.

495
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: It's just getting worse and worse and worse. She's like,

496
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: this is not real life. This is just what I

497
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 2: see on TV.

498
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: And when they said it that day and they and

499
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 3: the salon closed and they said you will be shut

500
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 3: down indefinitely. And Beverly Hills didn't play old games, Lane

501
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 3: didn't play no games because.

502
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: Actors were like whoa, Like they were just like super paranoim. Yeah,

503
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 2: it was like COVID death. It was like the two

504
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: words went together.

505
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: And Atlanta was like wow, I like, well, Covid and Florida.

506
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: Yes, and Florida was going to Florida.

507
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: I definitely went to Floriday on the boat open air.

508
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: We're outside outside, no out here.

509
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: We were like girl like zombies walking around here like

510
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: and I was just.

511
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: Like, God, what is gonna happen? And I just.

512
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 3: Remember crying, crying like boohooing on Instagram.

513
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 2: I was like, well, guys, it's real. I'm like, godamn,

514
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: Like Brian, I was like whoa.

515
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: And it was real because then you felt like, I'm

516
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: never going to get to do hair again.

517
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm never going to use my hands again.

518
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: So I had to take my home office turn into office,

519
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 3: gets the wallpaper or build it up. I remember, make

520
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: it like and I got a deal, a deal with

521
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 3: another deal with Procter and game six figures.

522
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: I gotta do this to do it. God, thank you.

523
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: So now I'm like, oh my God, thank you so much.

524
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 2: And I'm like and they made me like.

525
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: I just went online and I talked to families about

526
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: you know, like hair, home makeovers at home.

527
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: I just spent it any way that.

528
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: I could and just I had time off to think, wow,

529
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: ride my bike, hang out with friends exactly.

530
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: We were going to bars on the bike every day child.

531
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: We was no masks my bike since twenty twenty.

532
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: Literally it lies on my bike every day of the

533
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: year exactly. Like it was a really good year for me.

534
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 3: It went by really fast. I think the next year

535
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: was even harder because now it's twenty twenty one. You know,

536
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: it's the fear factor is lessening a little bit. We're

537
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: getting ready to go back to work in twenty twenty two,

538
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 3: where we're just going back then boom, yeah, you here

539
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 3: to hit us with a strike. So faith is the

540
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: only thing that you have for like really, like I

541
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 3: have to when when my mom died, my mother died

542
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 3: in front of me, So it was like boom, oh shit,

543
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: like aneurism.

544
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: Should my mom died of aurism? Why did I know that?

545
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 2: So when she died, it was like sudden, you have

546
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: to shift immediately, your.

547
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: Mind has to shift, like I gotta you gotta take

548
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 3: care of yourself, like what you're gonna do?

549
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: You gotta take care of yourself.

550
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Like there was no mom, grandmother, nobody, like everybody died

551
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: in five years.

552
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: Mother, father, well father wasn't really there.

553
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: Grandmother, thank you, I was liked. So it's Okay, you

554
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: have to immediately take a shift in your mindset. I'm fourteen, Yeah,

555
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: I'm fourteen, so I'm becoming a young woman. I'm seeing

556
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: what she's going through an abusive relationship and just having

557
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: a pull out a night to stab this dude because

558
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 3: he's trying to beat my mom up like craziness, and

559
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 3: she's like, I'm out of here, I'm moving. So we

560
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: move in with my whole family and I said combustion.

561
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: So it's like six bedroom house and it's just like

562
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: way too much. And my mom fussing at my aunt

563
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: about sitting her fat ass on the couch.

564
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it.

565
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 3: And in booms, she falls on the floor because my

566
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: mom had to white couch yiad with the plastic on it, yes,

567
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: and my aunt.

568
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: Used to just sit on it every day and watch TV.

569
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: So she was just not having it and she.

570
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 3: Just falls out of an aneurysm. And that was the

571
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: last day. And that's the day where my mom was

572
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: the type that was like you. She didn't say I

573
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: love you. She never said I love you to me.

574
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 3: It was always I'm gonna show you I love you

575
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: than to say. So that's the energy that you take

576
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: on as a young child, you take on that armor.

577
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: That's your armor, that's your defense, that's your you know,

578
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: that's how you make it through life. Like you know,

579
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: I have to show up. I gotta be, I gotta,

580
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 3: I gotta be whatever it is. Like, she raised me

581
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: with self esteem.

582
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: Hold your head up, hi, you know, she put me

583
00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: a hair school.

584
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: Like all these little things just like fell right into place.

585
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: So when she passed away, it was just like you're

586
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: on your own. You got to figure this out. And

587
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: I think I was already raised. She was like, and

588
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: take care of your brother. And my mom literally like

589
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: three days, two days after Christmas passed away.

590
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: And I remember them saying, go in there and tell

591
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: her you love her. But we never said that.

592
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: So it was hard, you know, and I.

593
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: Never said it. And she passed away and that was that.

594
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: And I didn't get to see her or anything because

595
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: she was at the hospital. And I don't think families

596
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: understand like mental health therapy, none of that.

597
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: So you just functioning in life.

598
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my mom died yesterday. I'm back at school,

599
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like it was just nothing, and.

600
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: That was that.

601
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: That was that.

602
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: I remember graduating and throwing the test in the trash.

603
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: I through my last test in the trash and I passed.

604
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 2: I don't even know how, you know what I mean.

605
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 2: Like life has always.

606
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: Sort of covered me in a sense, like she's just

607
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: watching over my life, you know what I mean. So

608
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: it's gone through many highs and many lows, and one

609
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 3: thing about the journey for me has just always been

610
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: about just staying relevant.

611
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: You've done that, staying relevant.

612
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: It's gonna be times where you super popular, you're all

613
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: the way at the top.

614
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: But my whole goal is always to stay good.

615
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 3: Just be a good hairstylist and be well known and

616
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: be easy, you know what I mean, Easy to be

617
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: in the room, easy to get along with, like you

618
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and just be really good about

619
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: what you do. And that's really really is what's kept

620
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: me working, you know what I mean.

621
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: And you're not.

622
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: Gonna be popular all the time, that's the thin way. Yeah,

623
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: my game was going on in one route for twenty

624
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: something years. Now I'm on a new route and it's

625
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: very very different from the route that I was taken.

626
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: Because when you're on the road to become a celebrity stylist,

627
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: I'm yours all day. I can't work on kaya right.

628
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: That's why a lot of celebrity stylists don't have anything,

629
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: because you're on someone else's journey the whole time. I

630
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: can't sit over here and be working on Kaye right

631
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: while I'm with you, because I'm an attentive stylist. I'm

632
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: making sure every curl everything on your shirt. I'm your clothes,

633
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: I'm everything to you. I'm selfless when i'm with you

634
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: as a as a real, real select, as a real

635
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: celebrity stylist.

636
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: To me these new ones on the phone shop, I.

637
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: Gotta get up to do the touch up, right, girl,

638
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: that's a compilations, right.

639
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: I was very because so looking crazy and I'm looking

640
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: you see the hell like your.

641
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: I'm prass, I'm behind every camera I'm looking see.

642
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: But you are like a celebrity's favorite type of styles,

643
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: right because you never had to worry. Am I looking crazy?

644
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: Or is like my hair sticking out? You know what

645
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Whatever the case, you you tell to make

646
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: a person, hey, do you see this? You attention to

647
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: the whole everld we all together?

648
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: It's not the Kaye Wright show, right, it's our show

649
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: because we're all gonna look good together. Like, even when

650
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: you have to share clients, you may not always be

651
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: so searian, not gonna call me all the time before

652
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: she's gonna call another artist. You can't be feeling a

653
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: way about it. You have to just know that you're

654
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: good in your art and you got to move on

655
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: and on and on.

656
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: And move to the new lane and pivot. Like you said,

657
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: just keep pivoting.

658
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: And that's really been my goal is to stay relevant

659
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: and to pivot and not to compete.

660
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: That's a that's a nugget.

661
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Speaker 3: I compete, pivot, but don't be so competitive.

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Speaker 2: I'm competitive with.

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Speaker 3: Kaya saying like even like looking at Instagram, I'm following people.

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Speaker 2: I don't do that. I want people. It's nuts keep watching.

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Speaker 2: I don't even knowing the following you. You might be

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Speaker 2: the sweetest woman. I'm know girl. You know so.

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Speaker 3: He me petty pause since I okay, okay, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So can you tell us anything about your product line,

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Speaker 1: anything specific that you want us to know about.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So basically, Muse hair is my line. A muse

671
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Speaker 3: for me is someone that inspires you. So I've always

672
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Speaker 3: been inspired by my artists, like yourself. Different talent, and

673
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Speaker 3: I'm your muse as well. So Muse Hair was inspired

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Speaker 3: by just you being my muse and and and and

675
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Speaker 3: inspiring me to create.

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Speaker 2: That's number one.

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Speaker 3: And I decided as a stylist, I wanted to have

678
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Speaker 3: styling products. So a styling line is really what I

679
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Speaker 3: focused on with my product, Muse Hair Styling products so big.

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Speaker 1: I love that, Yes, I love it. You also wrote

681
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Speaker 1: a book called From Beauty to Business, The Guaranteed Strategy

682
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Speaker 1: to building, running, and growing a successful beauty business. Can

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Speaker 1: you share some of the nuggets in your book that

684
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Speaker 1: really can help people who are trying to jump in

685
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Speaker 1: any type of entrepreneurship, but specifically in a salon business well.

686
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Speaker 3: As a stylist, I think that first you should work

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Speaker 3: on your craft.

688
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: Perfect your craft, be good at what you do. First.

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Speaker 2: Let's just start right there.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with like really perfecting your craft, spending time

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Speaker 3: with it. I say three years is really what you

692
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Speaker 3: should really really focus on as a stylist. Three to

693
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Speaker 3: five to be good, to find your niche find out

694
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Speaker 3: what it is that you love about styling hair, because

695
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Speaker 3: don't do it to hustle and to just to make money.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I mean.

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Speaker 3: And also I think now with Instagram University, I think

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Speaker 3: that a lot of these stylists now just find one

699
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Speaker 3: thing that they're good at, like I only put on

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Speaker 3: lace front wigs, And what they'll soon find out is

701
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Speaker 3: like that's going to play out And now where.

702
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Speaker 2: Are you going to lie?

703
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Speaker 3: Where are you gonna find yourself in this world beauty?

704
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Speaker 3: So finding your niche is a real big deal. And

705
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Speaker 3: the big question is always what is your why? Like

706
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Speaker 3: why are you doing this? Where is it coming from?

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Speaker 3: Like what do you what is it that you're you know,

708
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Speaker 3: passionate about in this whole thing?

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Speaker 2: What keeps you going every day?

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Speaker 3: Mine is making women feel and look their best. After

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Speaker 3: every styling, there's a hug to get a hug. It's

712
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Speaker 3: so endearing from a woman like she feels beautiful and

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Speaker 3: she started dancing.

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Speaker 2: That means happy and that's.

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Speaker 3: What you want when your clients leave you and if

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Speaker 3: you're not doing your friends, you're probably not that good.

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Speaker 2: So and just.

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Speaker 3: For me, also, it's no plan B, Like this was

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Speaker 3: it for me And I'm not going to stop, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean till I get to where it

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Speaker 3: is I want to be.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what you have to know as well.

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Speaker 2: That's so yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Ke KaiA right, thank you so happy we got to

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Speaker 1: do this. Yes, yes, this is so good.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: So when I think about your journey, I see a

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Speaker 1: very driven woman who has been so focused on her career.

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Speaker 1: How have you balanced that with love?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there has been some sacrifices. I always

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Speaker 3: wanted children, so.

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Speaker 2: I haven't had any kids.

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Speaker 3: I did freeze my eggs, so there's still possibility making

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Speaker 3: space for love. Is funny enough that you said that.

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Speaker 3: When I was younger, I used to be obsessed with

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Speaker 3: Tony Robbins and he asks really like for me, at

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Speaker 3: like eighteen nineteen years old, I'm like obsessed with this guy,

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Speaker 3: Like grab up, please, can I get the forty eight CDs?

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Speaker 2: You know about motivation and da da da da. So

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Speaker 2: he taught me.

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Speaker 3: Really early on, like about manifestation and like really like

742
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Speaker 3: putting it out there.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you believe, see you can have.

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Speaker 3: And so he asked this one question, he said, what

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Speaker 3: are the priorities in your life? And this is intense

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Speaker 3: for like an eighteen nineteen year old, but I'm like okay,

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Speaker 3: So because I used to journal, so I wrote it

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Speaker 3: down it was success, money, power, something, and family is

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Speaker 3: number five. This five is so symbolistic to my I

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Speaker 3: don't even know if that's a word.

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Speaker 2: But this word symbolic.

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Speaker 3: This is so symbolic to my life because I'm at

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Speaker 3: the fifth chapter of my life.

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Speaker 2: I'm fifty wow. And family was number five.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And my current boyfriend now always says I love you,

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Speaker 3: he stops me, and I love you, and I'll be like,

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Speaker 3: I love you too. I guess I should say that, yeah, ooh, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean. But I feel it at my heart.

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Speaker 3: But because my mom always said I can show you better,

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that always kind of it's kind

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Speaker 3: of my love language is showing you my love of

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Speaker 3: some sort, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think that now.

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Speaker 3: That's all I am made up of, is looking for love,

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Speaker 3: not even looking for it, just being like, let me

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Speaker 3: be more love, let me have more time for people.

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Speaker 3: I miss weddings, I've missed big dates, like just being so.

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Speaker 2: Detached from those things.

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Speaker 3: Because when you lose someone so significant in your life,

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Speaker 3: it's like you deal with a little bit of abandonment,

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Speaker 3: and the abandonment is masked by this protection that you

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Speaker 3: keep around yourself. So that you're not hurt and you

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Speaker 3: don't even sometimes allow yourself to be loved because you

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Speaker 3: don't even know how. You don't even know how, you

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Speaker 3: don't even know how to be loved because you're like

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Speaker 3: so busy moving, going, dodging and ducking it because you

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Speaker 3: gotta and whatever comes has to fit in my life

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Speaker 3: has to fit in my life. Yeah, And I had

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Speaker 3: to realize, like, you know, I even with dating certain

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Speaker 3: men if it didn't fit in my life, because if

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Speaker 3: you take me out my journey, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: this is gonna work out.

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Speaker 2: It has to fit in my life.

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Speaker 3: So like even when I talk to women about relationships,

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Speaker 3: I don't like women that help that that encourage me

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Speaker 3: to bash or talk bad about men, because I have

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Speaker 3: to be encouraged to love kaya you know, I have

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Speaker 3: to be like if you'd be like, girl, he ain't shit,

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Speaker 3: D Like, I know, he ain't shit. But I have

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Speaker 3: to be encouraged more the other way because I could

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Speaker 3: be tough on that side.

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Speaker 2: I like to be like, be more loving and be

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Speaker 2: more testing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I like that conversation better than like the bashing kind,

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Speaker 3: So I have to keep it in my life. I

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Speaker 3: put it on my priority board, I write it on

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Speaker 3: my inspirationuy, my journals.

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Speaker 2: It's all around me, just like love.

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Speaker 3: Like so it's been a sacrifice, but now it's kind

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Speaker 3: of like it's time for it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, people ask me, I do feel like a part

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Speaker 1: of success is sacrificing love because sometimes what man needs

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Speaker 1: you can't really give that to them when you're so

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Speaker 1: busy trying to make your dreams come true or to

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Speaker 1: strive after certain things. So I definitely I'm in that

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Speaker 1: same boat. Still don't have a man, still single, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a part of the sacrifice. And

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Speaker 1: I know that when it's time, God will make provisions

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Speaker 1: and everything will be in place.

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Speaker 3: Yes he will, and I believe he will make space.

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Speaker 3: Like when people it's a saying in that lad they

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Speaker 3: always say there's no man in that lady, there's no man.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm like, that's not true.

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Speaker 3: That might be true for you and your truth, but

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Speaker 3: the truth is really what you believe it really is.

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Speaker 2: I think the same thing.

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Speaker 1: For Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I don't think, I don't believe it. I believe because

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Speaker 3: if that's the matra in your hair, your man could.

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Speaker 1: Move to Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Come on, now, he could move there. He really could

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Speaker 2: move there, and he's just for you.

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Speaker 3: That's just how God is like, even like you know

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Speaker 3: I'm dating now, the man is said my life, he

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Speaker 3: was sent here for me even and if it's for

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Speaker 3: a time, he's here for me. And God will only

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Speaker 3: give me what I need.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely he really would.

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Speaker 3: Like that's it's like He's done that for me in

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Speaker 3: my life so many times, so many times. So hey,

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Speaker 3: thank you Guderious.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: This has been amazing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love you, so I.

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Speaker 3: Love I love you.

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Speaker 2: Now I can say there we go.

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Speaker 1: There we go. So we're gonna do at the end

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Speaker 1: of the show, we do what's called positive outcomes. This

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Speaker 1: is where our listeners right in and we give them advice. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so this one says Crystal. I absolutely loved Eva's episode,

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Speaker 1: and I love how she makes it a point to

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Speaker 1: wear her lots no matter what character she plays on screen.

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Speaker 1: Lots get such a bad name and have been reluctantly

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Speaker 1: associated with beauty. I have a twenty three year old

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Speaker 1: daughter who works in corporate and it's having a hard

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Speaker 1: time coming up with professional ways to style her lif

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Speaker 1: I constantly reinforced that her locks are beautiful and she

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have to wear a wig at work to fit in.

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Speaker 1: Can you please give her some advice on how she

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Speaker 1: can feel comfortable going to work rocking her natural hair.

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Speaker 1: There's a law pass called the Crown Act where now

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Speaker 1: that we can wear our hair how we we've seen

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Speaker 1: fit and it's okay, you know. So I would tell

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Speaker 1: your daughter to one like you, tell her your natural

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Speaker 1: hair is beautiful, is what God blessed you with. And

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Speaker 1: we as African Americans have certain ways that we show

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Speaker 1: our blackness, and a lot of times it's through our hair,

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Speaker 1: you know, whether it is walking or yes, braise locks,

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Speaker 1: our afro, our curly hair, whatever the case may be.

863
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Speaker 1: For so long we thought we had to straighten it

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Speaker 1: to feel pretty. And I have fallen into that for

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Speaker 1: a long time because I worked on Katholin Hill, so

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Speaker 1: I felt like I had to wear my hair a

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Speaker 1: certain way to fit in. So I totally understand where

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Speaker 1: she's coming from, but I think it starts within knowing

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Speaker 1: that you are beautiful the way God made you, and

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Speaker 1: understand and that however, no matter I think it was Indira,

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Speaker 1: I am not my hair like however, you rocket is good,

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Speaker 1: you know. So what we're gonna do since we have

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Speaker 1: the legendary KaiA right, I don't have locks, but I

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Speaker 1: got braids. So Kai is gonna play with my hair

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Speaker 1: and give you a little you know idea. Here, let

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Speaker 1: me get behind you.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about this. Okay, I'm start here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're given some drama.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll give a little dramatics here. So, Kai, do

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Speaker 1: you have women that work in corporate America that have

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Speaker 1: natural hair that you may have to help style.

882
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: Yes.

883
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 3: One of the things that I'm loving about from braids

884
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: all the way to locks right now is first things First,

885
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: what I would appreciate is if you keep them groomed,

886
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: because sometimes I think people feel like because they have

887
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: locks protective styles, they can just grow it out. It

888
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 3: looks a little uncapt and I feel like just keeping

889
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: it fresh, a little bit of edge control can refreshing them,

890
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: even if you do just the hairline. Eep them fresh,

891
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: pep them, groom and shape them.

892
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: I like shapes.

893
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: Shapes really do help you just have a style.

894
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: You can kind of create your own crown.

895
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: I think perception is still perception no matter what you

896
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 3: know what I mean, They're gonna still see you having locks,

897
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: no matter what the crown X says or.

898
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: Anything like that.

899
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: Yes, it's okay, but the perception is still the same.

900
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: Oh you have locks, people, because it's still new. It's

901
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: very new, and I'm loving how the girls are putting

902
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: Look at this, they're putting hair in between, so it

903
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 3: softens up the braid look and it takes a little

904
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: bit of that beach summertime effect off and just kind

905
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: of create shapes as long as it's not in the face,

906
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: they're not hanging down, and you create some sort of

907
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: look with them. I think that kind of will help

908
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: people see you differently. It's almost like wearing like a ponytail,

909
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: but you kind of creating a shape of whatever you

910
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 3: like with these locks. I mean, that's what I think

911
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: when I think about locks, I just want to see

912
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: like beautiful shapes and I want to say, see the

913
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 3: edges groomed really nicely, and just shape that hair to

914
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: match your face. That's really what my goal is, Like,

915
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: not too many pieces hanging down. I think that also

916
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 3: makes people feel like, you know, they can see your locks.

917
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 3: You should be able to see them, But I think

918
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: they should feel shaped of some sort like yours.

919
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: They're so nice.

920
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: Yes, we love. I should have pulled you in here. Okay,

921
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: while you're doing this, Kyle, we're gonna do what I'm

922
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: going through and what I'm growing through. And this is

923
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: a part of the show that we do. And right

924
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: now I am going through balancing everything that is on

925
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: my plate. I feel like, even if I'm not working,

926
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: people like, what are you in your time off? I'm

927
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: still working. So I feel like right now it is

928
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: balancing everything that I've prayed for. We said before when

929
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: we before we sat down, Kyle like, are you so busy?

930
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, and You're like, well, this is what

931
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: you prayed for. And I'm like, it is so going

932
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: through adjusting to how busy I am, but also balancing

933
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: it all.

934
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: What about you, I would say mine is.

935
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: True.

936
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: You hit it transitioning. I would call it. I'm going

937
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: through the big transition. Wow, And it is extremely uncomfortable.

938
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: And I know that God wouldn't give me anything that

939
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: I couldn't handle.

940
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it won't. And I think transition is good. I

941
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: think it's.

942
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: Next level too, you know what I mean. Like, if

943
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: you just stay in the same place, you won't grow.

944
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: So transitioning is obviously a part of the next level.

945
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

946
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: And if we had to leave the people with keep

947
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: feeling the blank, we call it keep it blank, sweetie.

948
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: If I want to leave people today, I would say keep.

949
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: It Oh that feels good too.

950
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: She don't even have no nothing.

951
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: I can't eat a sweet woozle. You know I can't see.

952
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I would say, keep it fly, sweety. So how would

953
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: you feel in the blank, Keep it blank, sweetie, keep.

954
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: It reinventing, Sweetie.

955
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: I like that.

956
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: I like that's what you do.

957
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: You do it very well, exactly, Kyle, thank you so much.

958
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: With little hair down, little half up, half down, Thank

959
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: you guys so much for tuning in to this episode

960
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: of Keep It Positive.

961
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: Sweetie. If you want to.

962
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: Write into our Positive Outcomes Listening letter, write in to

963
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: Keep It Positive sweety at gmail dot com and that

964
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: is Sweetye with an ie. You can follow me on

965
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: all platforms that love Chris Sorinee. That's l U V Christorinee.

966
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: Kyle.

967
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Tell the people where they can find you kaya.

968
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: Write one on Instagram or Kia write dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, in the meantime, in between times, you

970
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: know what to do. Keep it positive, sweetie. Listee you

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Speaker 1: guys next time. An