1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:31,268 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,268 --> 00:00:24,868 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:24,908 --> 00:00:27,228 Speaker 3: In Week eight, in any games that were played between 5 00:00:27,228 --> 00:00:30,708 Speaker 3: an AFC and an NFC opponent, the AFC won every 6 00:00:30,788 --> 00:00:32,508 Speaker 3: single game, except for Sunday Night Football. 7 00:00:32,548 --> 00:00:33,908 Speaker 4: The AFC was all over it. 8 00:00:33,988 --> 00:00:36,548 Speaker 3: The NFC is like a house of wors on holiday game. 9 00:00:36,908 --> 00:00:39,188 Speaker 3: We can't figure any of these teams out. There's so 10 00:00:39,348 --> 00:00:43,228 Speaker 3: much jockeying for position. As we said, the commanders not 11 00:00:43,348 --> 00:00:46,348 Speaker 3: even on our screen. And that is our lurking column. 12 00:00:46,388 --> 00:00:49,908 Speaker 3: On the far right, really fascinating wildcard selections. 13 00:00:49,948 --> 00:00:51,068 Speaker 4: And on the left side your seat. 14 00:00:51,908 --> 00:00:54,548 Speaker 3: Who would host a playoff game if the playoffs were 15 00:00:54,628 --> 00:00:57,588 Speaker 3: to start today? So take a gander at the NFC 16 00:00:57,708 --> 00:01:01,628 Speaker 3: standings as we see them, and Manti, just pick your 17 00:01:01,628 --> 00:01:04,428 Speaker 3: piece of candy out of the bubbling cauldron called the 18 00:01:04,548 --> 00:01:06,148 Speaker 3: NFC and talk about one of your teams. 19 00:01:06,148 --> 00:01:08,268 Speaker 5: Well, if I had to pick out a candy, it's 20 00:01:08,308 --> 00:01:10,508 Speaker 5: gonna be blue and it's gonna be green, kind of 21 00:01:10,548 --> 00:01:13,788 Speaker 5: like this room right here. Because the Seattle Seahawks are 22 00:01:13,868 --> 00:01:17,468 Speaker 5: playing very, very good football and it's very surprising, at 23 00:01:17,548 --> 00:01:20,428 Speaker 5: least to me, based on last year. They fired their 24 00:01:20,468 --> 00:01:23,908 Speaker 5: offensive coordinator guys. Ryan Grubb was their coordinator last last year, 25 00:01:24,028 --> 00:01:26,708 Speaker 5: they fire him and they bring in Clint Kubiak. 26 00:01:26,268 --> 00:01:29,588 Speaker 6: Who was with New Orleans. New Orleans for the first 27 00:01:29,628 --> 00:01:30,308 Speaker 6: three seasons. 28 00:01:30,468 --> 00:01:33,108 Speaker 5: First three weeks of the season last year was known 29 00:01:33,148 --> 00:01:36,148 Speaker 5: as one of the best offensive units in football. 30 00:01:36,908 --> 00:01:39,428 Speaker 6: All Kubiak did was take that and put it in. 31 00:01:39,388 --> 00:01:42,508 Speaker 5: Seattle because what they have over there with Sam Darnold, 32 00:01:42,588 --> 00:01:45,428 Speaker 5: Jackson Smith and Jigmall and all of that cast over 33 00:01:45,428 --> 00:01:48,028 Speaker 5: there on the offensive side of the ball, they are 34 00:01:48,068 --> 00:01:52,148 Speaker 5: an explosive offense. This is an offense that's just not 35 00:01:52,188 --> 00:01:56,788 Speaker 5: scoring porn points, but they're scoring points and gaining yards. 36 00:01:56,908 --> 00:02:00,308 Speaker 5: They are an average of six yards per play that 37 00:02:00,428 --> 00:02:01,148 Speaker 5: is third. 38 00:02:00,908 --> 00:02:01,788 Speaker 6: In the NFL. 39 00:02:02,148 --> 00:02:04,948 Speaker 5: Now, I don't think anybody anticipated that after firing their 40 00:02:04,988 --> 00:02:08,268 Speaker 5: head coach and having a new quarterback in Sam Donald 41 00:02:08,548 --> 00:02:09,628 Speaker 5: now behind center. 42 00:02:09,828 --> 00:02:10,348 Speaker 6: It's not that. 43 00:02:10,388 --> 00:02:12,788 Speaker 5: Sam Donald couldn't do the job. It's just it's a 44 00:02:12,828 --> 00:02:14,908 Speaker 5: new guy on campus. You don't know what to expect. 45 00:02:14,988 --> 00:02:16,908 Speaker 6: It's a new coordinator, new team. 46 00:02:17,588 --> 00:02:20,908 Speaker 7: I don't think anybody expected that expected this. What I 47 00:02:20,948 --> 00:02:23,108 Speaker 7: did expect was that defense to play that the way 48 00:02:23,108 --> 00:02:25,788 Speaker 7: that they've played, to be dominant, to get to the 49 00:02:25,828 --> 00:02:28,428 Speaker 7: to the quarterback offense to take the ball away. So 50 00:02:28,588 --> 00:02:30,748 Speaker 7: all all of those teams in the NFC, guys, I'm 51 00:02:30,788 --> 00:02:32,628 Speaker 7: looking at the Seattle Seahawks and. 52 00:02:32,588 --> 00:02:35,188 Speaker 5: I'm seeing a team that is on a terror. They're 53 00:02:35,268 --> 00:02:39,028 Speaker 5: very explosive, their limiting runs yardage on the defensive side 54 00:02:39,028 --> 00:02:42,388 Speaker 5: of the ball, and if they continue to keep that up, man, 55 00:02:42,428 --> 00:02:45,388 Speaker 5: I know you're happy to see as being a Seattle Nator, Yeah. 56 00:02:45,228 --> 00:02:47,308 Speaker 8: You know, I'm a Seattle fan all day long. They'll 57 00:02:47,388 --> 00:02:50,228 Speaker 8: usually hear me talk about the Cowboys, but Seatail's my hometown. 58 00:02:50,508 --> 00:02:52,268 Speaker 8: But since we were aready talking about Seattle, then I 59 00:02:52,268 --> 00:02:53,948 Speaker 8: have to talk about Dallas, right, I mean, let's talk 60 00:02:53,948 --> 00:02:57,228 Speaker 8: about detailed boogie Dallas out there at the NFC East. 61 00:02:57,548 --> 00:02:59,828 Speaker 6: They are the team that I have my eye. 62 00:03:00,108 --> 00:03:02,868 Speaker 8: And the reason why is because these guys are still 63 00:03:03,108 --> 00:03:05,988 Speaker 8: in a good position. It doesn't sound good three four 64 00:03:06,028 --> 00:03:08,548 Speaker 8: and one. Nobody likes that third category. I mean some 65 00:03:08,628 --> 00:03:10,468 Speaker 8: people on the show do, but Pops is out the 66 00:03:10,468 --> 00:03:12,628 Speaker 8: show today. So three four and one where the Dallas 67 00:03:12,668 --> 00:03:15,108 Speaker 8: Cowboys stand. We know one thing that they do really 68 00:03:15,148 --> 00:03:19,108 Speaker 8: well playoffense. These guys are the second overall scoring team 69 00:03:19,188 --> 00:03:22,388 Speaker 8: in the NFL. Dak Prescott right, they got we have 70 00:03:23,388 --> 00:03:26,708 Speaker 8: Javonte Williams in the backfield. You got Ceedee Lamb, George Piggins. 71 00:03:26,748 --> 00:03:28,948 Speaker 8: All these guys are doing amazing. Oh and Jake Ferguson. 72 00:03:29,628 --> 00:03:32,428 Speaker 2: Offensively, you're great. Ah. 73 00:03:32,428 --> 00:03:35,028 Speaker 8: But there's another side of the ball, and that's defense. 74 00:03:35,068 --> 00:03:38,348 Speaker 8: And then defensively, Dallas is second worst defense. 75 00:03:38,068 --> 00:03:40,868 Speaker 9: In the league. Yeah that is that's. 76 00:03:40,348 --> 00:03:41,948 Speaker 6: Why you said eye instead of eyes. 77 00:03:42,028 --> 00:03:42,748 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that's right. 78 00:03:42,988 --> 00:03:43,068 Speaker 10: Right. 79 00:03:43,668 --> 00:03:46,508 Speaker 8: That doesn't necessarily go well, So if you're scoring a 80 00:03:46,508 --> 00:03:48,708 Speaker 8: lot of points but you're giving up a lot of points, 81 00:03:48,828 --> 00:03:50,988 Speaker 8: that doesn't necessarily turn into a lot of victories. 82 00:03:51,068 --> 00:03:52,708 Speaker 9: Right. But I have hope. 83 00:03:52,868 --> 00:03:54,868 Speaker 8: And the reason why I have hope is because the 84 00:03:54,948 --> 00:03:58,628 Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys are two or one currently in the NFC East, right, 85 00:03:59,028 --> 00:04:01,308 Speaker 8: with three games left. Hey, they still have to face 86 00:04:01,348 --> 00:04:03,428 Speaker 8: the Giants, and they still have to face the Eagles. 87 00:04:03,508 --> 00:04:05,548 Speaker 8: They still have to face the Mas one more time. 88 00:04:05,708 --> 00:04:07,868 Speaker 8: But as of right now, they're two and one. If 89 00:04:08,108 --> 00:04:10,308 Speaker 8: you look at their remaining schedule. I know we don't 90 00:04:10,348 --> 00:04:12,468 Speaker 8: like to do this, some people don't, but again, Pops 91 00:04:12,508 --> 00:04:13,468 Speaker 8: isn't here, so. 92 00:04:13,468 --> 00:04:14,748 Speaker 9: We look at the remaining schedule. 93 00:04:14,788 --> 00:04:15,508 Speaker 6: These guys have. 94 00:04:15,828 --> 00:04:19,268 Speaker 8: The Eagles, the Lions, the Chiefs, and the Chargers. Those 95 00:04:19,268 --> 00:04:20,708 Speaker 8: are going to be what I consider to be their 96 00:04:20,788 --> 00:04:24,348 Speaker 8: more challenging games. Then they have the Giants, they have 97 00:04:24,468 --> 00:04:27,828 Speaker 8: the Raiders, the Cardinals, the Commanders, and the Vikings. If 98 00:04:27,988 --> 00:04:29,988 Speaker 8: it goes the way that I see it, they'll finish 99 00:04:30,108 --> 00:04:33,228 Speaker 8: eight eight and one, and the NFC East usually sends 100 00:04:33,388 --> 00:04:36,108 Speaker 8: at least two teams to the playoffs. The way I 101 00:04:36,148 --> 00:04:38,548 Speaker 8: see it, Cowboys slide in the playoffs. 102 00:04:39,348 --> 00:04:42,668 Speaker 11: Slide in, huh, slide in smooth, but they ain't riding in. 103 00:04:42,708 --> 00:04:44,668 Speaker 9: They slide. 104 00:04:47,108 --> 00:04:49,108 Speaker 11: For me, I'm gonna have to look over at the 105 00:04:49,268 --> 00:04:52,668 Speaker 11: NFC South. I think this division is wide open. When 106 00:04:52,668 --> 00:04:55,268 Speaker 11: you look at the Bucks, you look at the Falcons, 107 00:04:55,268 --> 00:04:57,988 Speaker 11: you look at the Saints, and you look at the Panthers. 108 00:04:58,148 --> 00:04:59,908 Speaker 9: Nobody has taken the reins at all. 109 00:04:59,988 --> 00:05:01,988 Speaker 11: This is wide open, and I think, who's going to 110 00:05:02,028 --> 00:05:03,468 Speaker 11: come out on top at the end of this when 111 00:05:03,508 --> 00:05:08,228 Speaker 11: it's all said and done, other Panthers. Give me the Panthers, 112 00:05:08,348 --> 00:05:10,588 Speaker 11: because I look, I look at what Bryce Young did 113 00:05:10,948 --> 00:05:14,388 Speaker 11: his last year, just last year season twenty twenty four. 114 00:05:14,428 --> 00:05:17,388 Speaker 9: At the very end, he caught fire. He was fining 115 00:05:17,468 --> 00:05:18,308 Speaker 9: receivers everywhere. 116 00:05:18,348 --> 00:05:20,428 Speaker 11: He was thrown for two hundred and fifty two hundred 117 00:05:20,468 --> 00:05:22,948 Speaker 11: and fifty two hundred and ten. He was throwing three 118 00:05:23,028 --> 00:05:25,588 Speaker 11: touchdowns a game. And when you look at their roster, 119 00:05:25,868 --> 00:05:28,348 Speaker 11: they got a double head monster over at the running 120 00:05:28,388 --> 00:05:30,908 Speaker 11: back position, and they both of them can run the ball. 121 00:05:31,068 --> 00:05:33,988 Speaker 11: You look at Sea Hubb and you look at Ricode if. 122 00:05:33,948 --> 00:05:36,028 Speaker 9: Rego dab is dabbing everywhere. 123 00:05:35,828 --> 00:05:37,908 Speaker 11: When you got the opportunity, you look at look at 124 00:05:38,348 --> 00:05:42,068 Speaker 11: you got first rounder mc millan, and then you got 125 00:05:42,108 --> 00:05:44,068 Speaker 11: my guy coming back. Don't forget about Cocher. 126 00:05:44,308 --> 00:05:46,308 Speaker 9: Cocher, Jalen Cocher is back in the mix. 127 00:05:46,348 --> 00:05:47,668 Speaker 11: And if you look at what he did at the 128 00:05:47,708 --> 00:05:50,748 Speaker 11: tail end of his last year, he was balling. They 129 00:05:50,748 --> 00:05:52,428 Speaker 11: got two good tight ends. There are three and one 130 00:05:52,508 --> 00:05:55,628 Speaker 11: in October. Keep that in mind. They're going to find 131 00:05:55,668 --> 00:05:58,108 Speaker 11: some fire, some win. They play well at home, the 132 00:05:58,268 --> 00:05:59,868 Speaker 11: physical and want to run the ball. So give me, 133 00:05:59,948 --> 00:06:00,508 Speaker 11: give me the pants. 134 00:06:00,548 --> 00:06:03,068 Speaker 5: So so so, hold on, hold on, shot, you're saying 135 00:06:03,068 --> 00:06:06,828 Speaker 5: that the Panthers are or when you say that they're they're 136 00:06:06,828 --> 00:06:08,628 Speaker 5: going to win the NFC South, is that what you're saying. 137 00:06:08,628 --> 00:06:10,988 Speaker 5: I just want to clarify, clarify. You're saying that they're 138 00:06:10,988 --> 00:06:12,628 Speaker 5: clarified winning the NFC South. 139 00:06:12,628 --> 00:06:14,548 Speaker 11: I see them taking place in the NFC South. I 140 00:06:14,548 --> 00:06:16,748 Speaker 11: don't see what it's really fun Saints from can't say 141 00:06:16,748 --> 00:06:17,388 Speaker 11: the Saints. 142 00:06:17,388 --> 00:06:19,548 Speaker 9: Sampful only if they're healthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, and 143 00:06:19,708 --> 00:06:20,108 Speaker 9: we don't know. 144 00:06:20,188 --> 00:06:21,988 Speaker 3: You know what's really fun about what you just said 145 00:06:21,988 --> 00:06:25,708 Speaker 3: is they don't play each other until week sixteen and eighteen, 146 00:06:26,148 --> 00:06:28,348 Speaker 3: so there's a lot of time for them to get right. 147 00:06:28,468 --> 00:06:33,028 Speaker 3: And frankly, look at you, you're like, yeah, that's exactly sorry, 148 00:06:33,068 --> 00:06:36,588 Speaker 3: my bad. Panthers Bucks played each other week sixteen and week. 149 00:06:36,428 --> 00:06:37,428 Speaker 4: Eighteen back to back. 150 00:06:38,468 --> 00:06:41,308 Speaker 8: Understand how you think that they're going to outperform the Bucks? 151 00:06:41,468 --> 00:06:44,548 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, listen, we've seen can actually the last couple 152 00:06:44,828 --> 00:06:45,548 Speaker 11: couple of games. 153 00:06:45,668 --> 00:06:47,788 Speaker 9: What happened What happened to the bus the last couple 154 00:06:47,788 --> 00:06:50,028 Speaker 9: of games? Right now. I know they're dealing with some injuries. 155 00:06:50,348 --> 00:06:51,148 Speaker 9: That's part of the game. 156 00:06:51,148 --> 00:06:53,748 Speaker 11: But guess what happens over there with Carolina They've been 157 00:06:53,748 --> 00:06:56,788 Speaker 11: dealing with injuries too. It's part of the game. But listen, 158 00:06:56,828 --> 00:06:59,508 Speaker 11: when the rolls come in and the time come in, 159 00:06:59,548 --> 00:07:01,428 Speaker 11: it's gonna come down who can run the ball better, 160 00:07:01,428 --> 00:07:02,788 Speaker 11: and that at the end of the day, I think 161 00:07:02,788 --> 00:07:03,588 Speaker 11: the Panthers got that. 162 00:07:03,628 --> 00:07:04,588 Speaker 9: It's a wide open. 163 00:07:04,548 --> 00:07:06,108 Speaker 4: Divisions strong take for shot. 164 00:07:06,548 --> 00:07:08,988 Speaker 3: They stumbled against the Bills last week, but Indy Dalton 165 00:07:09,028 --> 00:07:10,748 Speaker 3: was in a quarterback, so that's helpful to know. Let's 166 00:07:10,748 --> 00:07:13,748 Speaker 3: see it again, NFC standings, if you would please, because 167 00:07:13,788 --> 00:07:16,308 Speaker 3: I challenge everybody to look to the right on the 168 00:07:16,468 --> 00:07:19,588 Speaker 3: lurking column and a pair of eyes. That went to 169 00:07:19,628 --> 00:07:22,148 Speaker 3: Baltimore last week and could have made it five straight, 170 00:07:22,468 --> 00:07:24,788 Speaker 3: but the Bears did not. So can we make one 171 00:07:24,908 --> 00:07:28,268 Speaker 3: pass at a team that I don't know? Could the 172 00:07:28,268 --> 00:07:31,588 Speaker 3: Bears be this year's Commanders the way the Commanders came 173 00:07:31,668 --> 00:07:35,388 Speaker 3: running last year and they were the unforeseen NFC darling, 174 00:07:35,788 --> 00:07:38,388 Speaker 3: do you put the Bears cap on that? Or are 175 00:07:38,468 --> 00:07:40,268 Speaker 3: you believe in what Rashad is saying that it's going 176 00:07:40,348 --> 00:07:43,748 Speaker 3: to be a Panthers To you, Isaiah, I think I do. 177 00:07:43,668 --> 00:07:46,628 Speaker 8: Have currently had more hope in the Panthers just because 178 00:07:46,668 --> 00:07:50,348 Speaker 8: the inconsistencies of where the Bears are supposed to be strong. 179 00:07:50,668 --> 00:07:53,468 Speaker 8: The Bears are supposed to be super strong offensively, got it, 180 00:07:53,508 --> 00:07:56,788 Speaker 8: But Ben Johnson, his style just hasn't clicked over yet, right, 181 00:07:56,828 --> 00:07:59,588 Speaker 8: It just hasn't hasn't gotten there yet. Caleb Williams has 182 00:07:59,588 --> 00:08:01,868 Speaker 8: not taken on the persona and Ben Johnson. 183 00:08:02,108 --> 00:08:03,708 Speaker 9: If that were to happen, and. 184 00:08:03,668 --> 00:08:06,428 Speaker 8: He were to start forming even a remotely like a 185 00:08:06,548 --> 00:08:09,188 Speaker 8: Jered Golf of the year's past, then these guys would 186 00:08:09,188 --> 00:08:12,148 Speaker 8: be dangerous because they have so many offensive weapons roma dunes. 187 00:08:12,148 --> 00:08:14,508 Speaker 8: They starting to do his thing right now, obviously consistently, 188 00:08:14,748 --> 00:08:16,868 Speaker 8: but right now I have to lean on the Panthers 189 00:08:16,908 --> 00:08:18,548 Speaker 8: because it bears you just don't know what you're getting 190 00:08:18,548 --> 00:08:19,068 Speaker 8: from week to week. 191 00:08:20,068 --> 00:08:23,028 Speaker 5: Well, that's such a good question, because when I look 192 00:08:23,068 --> 00:08:26,308 Speaker 5: at both teams, right you ask yourself this question week. 193 00:08:26,148 --> 00:08:28,028 Speaker 6: In and week out, like what am I getting? 194 00:08:28,468 --> 00:08:28,548 Speaker 10: Like? 195 00:08:28,628 --> 00:08:32,308 Speaker 5: There's no carryover, Like they play like one thing one 196 00:08:32,348 --> 00:08:33,428 Speaker 5: week and then the next. 197 00:08:33,188 --> 00:08:34,708 Speaker 6: Week you're like, what the heck just happened? 198 00:08:34,708 --> 00:08:37,828 Speaker 5: Like going into this week when they played the Ravens, 199 00:08:37,948 --> 00:08:40,508 Speaker 5: knowing that Lamar might have might have might have played, 200 00:08:40,548 --> 00:08:42,428 Speaker 5: or he might have, but when he lined up, you 201 00:08:42,428 --> 00:08:44,548 Speaker 5: saw that he was and you would anticipate at how 202 00:08:44,588 --> 00:08:46,868 Speaker 5: they've been playing the past few weeks that they would 203 00:08:46,868 --> 00:08:49,268 Speaker 5: have came out of Baltimore with a win. The way 204 00:08:49,308 --> 00:08:52,668 Speaker 5: that the Baltimore defense was able to hold Caleb Williams 205 00:08:52,908 --> 00:08:56,028 Speaker 5: and that offense, it is a little concerning based on 206 00:08:56,068 --> 00:08:59,268 Speaker 5: what they've done the previous week. So to Isaiah's point, 207 00:08:59,868 --> 00:09:03,148 Speaker 5: it's a little it's so up and down that it's 208 00:09:03,188 --> 00:09:05,268 Speaker 5: when I look at somebody like the Panthers and then 209 00:09:05,308 --> 00:09:07,508 Speaker 5: look at what they've been able to do. Now, I 210 00:09:07,548 --> 00:09:10,508 Speaker 5: think the two headed monster actually messes them up a 211 00:09:10,548 --> 00:09:13,868 Speaker 5: little bit because Ricodoudo was on a terror run while 212 00:09:13,948 --> 00:09:17,668 Speaker 5: while Choppa Hubbard was out. Now having Hubbard back, I 213 00:09:17,708 --> 00:09:19,588 Speaker 5: know that they invested a lot into him. 214 00:09:19,668 --> 00:09:20,668 Speaker 6: However, they're trying to. 215 00:09:20,628 --> 00:09:23,268 Speaker 5: Figure out how does this puzzle, which is the running 216 00:09:23,308 --> 00:09:27,708 Speaker 5: back room work because Ricodoudo was amazing, So when they 217 00:09:27,748 --> 00:09:29,468 Speaker 5: start to figure that out, I think that's just going 218 00:09:29,548 --> 00:09:32,428 Speaker 5: to help their pass game and the defensively that front 219 00:09:32,468 --> 00:09:33,828 Speaker 5: defensively for the. 220 00:09:33,748 --> 00:09:37,188 Speaker 6: Panthers is strong, like it is strong, and they. 221 00:09:37,068 --> 00:09:39,188 Speaker 5: Recavoc in the run game and they also get pressure 222 00:09:39,228 --> 00:09:41,108 Speaker 5: in the pass game. So i'd have to give the 223 00:09:41,708 --> 00:09:42,868 Speaker 5: to the pants come on over. 224 00:09:42,748 --> 00:09:44,308 Speaker 2: Ford's body language. 225 00:09:44,388 --> 00:09:47,708 Speaker 3: Ever since you've delivered that take, you're so proud of yourself. 226 00:09:47,868 --> 00:09:50,148 Speaker 3: You're like that guy on a date with the new 227 00:09:50,228 --> 00:09:52,268 Speaker 3: girl that he's dating and his inner parents are there, 228 00:09:52,308 --> 00:09:54,508 Speaker 3: and you like you went to the stand and did 229 00:09:54,508 --> 00:09:55,628 Speaker 3: the credit card thing already. 230 00:09:55,948 --> 00:09:57,788 Speaker 4: You sat back down and you were like, you guys 231 00:09:57,868 --> 00:10:00,548 Speaker 4: don't even know. 232 00:10:01,348 --> 00:10:04,628 Speaker 5: I'm so happy for your feels good like that one, 233 00:10:04,668 --> 00:10:06,468 Speaker 5: because Jamie has a few reactions once. 234 00:10:06,508 --> 00:10:08,588 Speaker 6: You'll either not say anything, or two you'll get it, 235 00:10:08,828 --> 00:10:11,028 Speaker 6: or she'll say R three. 236 00:10:11,228 --> 00:10:12,948 Speaker 5: Right what she did after you said it, she went, 237 00:10:16,628 --> 00:10:19,228 Speaker 5: she really liked Joe. Take when I heard the keyboard 238 00:10:19,268 --> 00:10:20,428 Speaker 5: going right, you said. 239 00:10:20,228 --> 00:10:22,188 Speaker 9: Down, Jamie like, no, you're. 240 00:10:22,068 --> 00:10:23,828 Speaker 4: Not gonna catch me off guard. I gotta do a 241 00:10:23,908 --> 00:10:25,668 Speaker 4: cram session on the Panthers right now. 242 00:10:26,948 --> 00:10:29,268 Speaker 3: Find me some time or we'll bring you back on 243 00:10:29,388 --> 00:10:32,068 Speaker 3: January sixth or whatever if we If the Panthers are 244 00:10:32,148 --> 00:10:33,428 Speaker 3: right in the NFC stuff. 245 00:10:50,628 --> 00:10:53,188 Speaker 2: Mom. 246 00:10:55,308 --> 00:10:59,108 Speaker 6: B I be him on the Cleaness inside last. 247 00:10:58,828 --> 00:11:03,508 Speaker 2: Series Juel on June right, that's the Texas. 248 00:11:03,748 --> 00:11:07,588 Speaker 6: Yes, that's funny as that clip is. 249 00:11:07,668 --> 00:11:10,268 Speaker 5: The truth is, Miles Garrett has done that to countless 250 00:11:10,308 --> 00:11:11,908 Speaker 5: offenses in this past nine years. 251 00:11:11,948 --> 00:11:14,348 Speaker 6: Since twenty seventeen, his dominance on. 252 00:11:14,268 --> 00:11:17,588 Speaker 5: The field has resulted in six Pro Bowl appearances, six 253 00:11:17,708 --> 00:11:21,628 Speaker 5: All Pro selections, and being named the twenty twenty three Defensive. 254 00:11:21,148 --> 00:11:22,108 Speaker 6: Player of the Year. 255 00:11:22,268 --> 00:11:24,548 Speaker 5: This year, he has tied for the most sacks in 256 00:11:24,588 --> 00:11:27,748 Speaker 5: the NFL with ten, all while leading the NFL and. 257 00:11:27,748 --> 00:11:30,828 Speaker 6: Tackles for a loss with fifteen, and just this. 258 00:11:30,868 --> 00:11:33,948 Speaker 5: Past week, he achieved something that has only happened nine 259 00:11:34,068 --> 00:11:34,668 Speaker 5: times in. 260 00:11:34,588 --> 00:11:36,788 Speaker 6: The past twenty years when he recorded five. 261 00:11:36,668 --> 00:11:40,028 Speaker 5: Sacks and last week's game against the Patriots. Not only 262 00:11:40,108 --> 00:11:42,588 Speaker 5: was that performance of franchise record for sax in a 263 00:11:42,628 --> 00:11:46,348 Speaker 5: single game, but Miles Garrett also set another record along 264 00:11:46,388 --> 00:11:49,708 Speaker 5: the way with his five sack performances past week, and 265 00:11:49,828 --> 00:11:53,148 Speaker 5: Miles Garrett passed Hall of Famer Reggie White for the 266 00:11:53,188 --> 00:11:54,708 Speaker 5: most career sacks under. 267 00:11:54,548 --> 00:11:55,708 Speaker 6: The age of thirty. 268 00:11:56,228 --> 00:12:00,308 Speaker 5: The crazy part is Miles doesn't turn thirty for another 269 00:12:00,468 --> 00:12:03,668 Speaker 5: two months, so there's no telling where that number will 270 00:12:03,708 --> 00:12:07,028 Speaker 5: be by the set by December twenty ninth. But despite 271 00:12:07,068 --> 00:12:10,348 Speaker 5: his record breaking performance, the Cleveland Browns would suffer their 272 00:12:10,428 --> 00:12:13,988 Speaker 5: sixth loss of the season, losing to the Patriots thirty 273 00:12:13,988 --> 00:12:17,388 Speaker 5: to thirteen. In the same game that Miles Garrett would 274 00:12:17,388 --> 00:12:20,468 Speaker 5: set a franchise record, he would also be taken out 275 00:12:20,588 --> 00:12:22,828 Speaker 5: late in the fourth quarter after the game seemed out 276 00:12:22,868 --> 00:12:26,188 Speaker 5: of reach. Frustrated by what happened, Miles had this to 277 00:12:26,228 --> 00:12:30,548 Speaker 5: say after his record breaking performance, I want to win. 278 00:12:31,748 --> 00:12:33,708 Speaker 9: I don't care how much time is on the clock. 279 00:12:33,868 --> 00:12:34,948 Speaker 2: They got their starters in. 280 00:12:35,788 --> 00:12:37,268 Speaker 9: There's a chance we can win. I want to be 281 00:12:37,308 --> 00:12:38,508 Speaker 9: a part of part of that. 282 00:12:38,708 --> 00:12:40,508 Speaker 6: I would throw the whole performance away for a win. 283 00:12:41,508 --> 00:12:45,428 Speaker 5: Miles Garrett's postgame comments sparked a lot of conversation amongst. 284 00:12:45,148 --> 00:12:46,908 Speaker 6: The football world for obvious reasons. 285 00:12:47,388 --> 00:12:51,148 Speaker 5: Back in February of this year, Miles Garrett publicly requested 286 00:12:51,188 --> 00:12:54,228 Speaker 5: a trade in which he said, as a kid of 287 00:12:54,268 --> 00:12:56,908 Speaker 5: the NFL, all I focused on was the ultimate goal 288 00:12:57,028 --> 00:12:59,868 Speaker 5: of winning a Super Bowl, and that goal fuels me 289 00:12:59,908 --> 00:13:01,988 Speaker 5: today more than ever. He would go on to say, 290 00:13:02,308 --> 00:13:05,588 Speaker 5: while I've loved calling this city my home, my desire 291 00:13:05,628 --> 00:13:08,508 Speaker 5: to win and compete on the biggest stages won't allow 292 00:13:08,548 --> 00:13:11,588 Speaker 5: me to be complacent. The goal was never the goal 293 00:13:11,628 --> 00:13:16,588 Speaker 5: from Cleveland to Canton, it was always been to compete 294 00:13:16,708 --> 00:13:20,748 Speaker 5: and win a Super Bowl. Well a month later, Miles 295 00:13:21,548 --> 00:13:24,188 Speaker 5: Miles was signed a four year, one hundred and sixty 296 00:13:24,228 --> 00:13:26,988 Speaker 5: million dollar deal which would pay him forty million dollars 297 00:13:27,068 --> 00:13:30,548 Speaker 5: a year, becoming the first non QB in NFL history 298 00:13:30,708 --> 00:13:34,188 Speaker 5: to make that much annually. So it's understandable when you 299 00:13:34,228 --> 00:13:37,628 Speaker 5: hear NFL fans say, well, you knew what you signed 300 00:13:37,708 --> 00:13:41,188 Speaker 5: up for, or he took the money instead of the rink. Still, 301 00:13:41,828 --> 00:13:44,268 Speaker 5: there is a sense of loyalty that may be missed 302 00:13:44,268 --> 00:13:47,388 Speaker 5: in this narrative. I know Miles was handsomely compensated for 303 00:13:47,428 --> 00:13:50,908 Speaker 5: his services, but he still chose to stay when he 304 00:13:50,948 --> 00:13:53,748 Speaker 5: could have left. He still chose to play for a 305 00:13:53,828 --> 00:13:56,988 Speaker 5: city the others have left behind, whether it be in 306 00:13:57,068 --> 00:13:59,748 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety six when the Browns moved the team from 307 00:14:00,588 --> 00:14:03,708 Speaker 5: Cleveland to Baltimore, in twenty ten when Lebron James announced 308 00:14:03,708 --> 00:14:05,868 Speaker 5: that he was leaving the Calves to join Dwayne Wade 309 00:14:05,868 --> 00:14:08,028 Speaker 5: and Chris Bosh and Miami in hopes of getting a ring. 310 00:14:08,508 --> 00:14:12,028 Speaker 5: Even in businesses like Firestone Tires and Joyan Fabrics which 311 00:14:12,028 --> 00:14:15,988 Speaker 5: were headquartered or headquartered in the area left, but one 312 00:14:16,028 --> 00:14:19,788 Speaker 5: man stayed, and his name is Miles Garrett. My only 313 00:14:19,868 --> 00:14:24,748 Speaker 5: question is what major impact does this decision have on 314 00:14:24,868 --> 00:14:25,508 Speaker 5: his legacy. 315 00:14:25,668 --> 00:14:31,148 Speaker 6: Let's go ask my friends, Isaac. Given all of the variables, obviously, you. 316 00:14:31,068 --> 00:14:32,668 Speaker 5: Know how he played last week, you know how he 317 00:14:32,668 --> 00:14:33,988 Speaker 5: played throughout his entire career. 318 00:14:33,988 --> 00:14:36,188 Speaker 12: But he had played with him, and you played with him. 319 00:14:36,348 --> 00:14:40,788 Speaker 5: You have a type of insight that some don't have. 320 00:14:41,348 --> 00:14:45,348 Speaker 5: What do you see in Miles and his decision to stay. 321 00:14:45,388 --> 00:14:47,548 Speaker 5: How does that impact his legacy? How do you see it? 322 00:14:47,908 --> 00:14:50,388 Speaker 12: Let's start off with who is Miles as a person? Right, 323 00:14:50,428 --> 00:14:53,348 Speaker 12: because I think that's something that's all of a sudden 324 00:14:53,428 --> 00:14:57,108 Speaker 12: in question, right, Like he chooses money over relationships and 325 00:14:57,148 --> 00:14:59,348 Speaker 12: doing what's right or you know, following his word. 326 00:14:59,508 --> 00:15:00,268 Speaker 6: He's a great guy. 327 00:15:00,308 --> 00:15:02,268 Speaker 12: And I say that, and I know that's kind of 328 00:15:02,308 --> 00:15:04,268 Speaker 12: a blanket term, but this is a guy who comes. 329 00:15:04,588 --> 00:15:05,508 Speaker 9: He's a good teammate. 330 00:15:05,588 --> 00:15:07,788 Speaker 12: We had a lot of fun with him just in 331 00:15:07,828 --> 00:15:12,828 Speaker 12: his presence in the d line room, you know, hosting dinners, whatever, 332 00:15:12,908 --> 00:15:14,588 Speaker 12: whatever it may be. He was one of those guys 333 00:15:14,628 --> 00:15:18,188 Speaker 12: which I appreciated. Here's my thing, this whole debate of 334 00:15:18,908 --> 00:15:21,588 Speaker 12: he took the money, so he gave up winning? It 335 00:15:21,668 --> 00:15:25,268 Speaker 12: is the National Football League. At what point was winning 336 00:15:25,468 --> 00:15:28,668 Speaker 12: not always the goal? Like now it's he stayed for 337 00:15:28,988 --> 00:15:32,908 Speaker 12: he stayed in an NFL franchise and chose money, like 338 00:15:32,948 --> 00:15:35,908 Speaker 12: as if the Browns are just stuck with a forever 339 00:15:36,068 --> 00:15:39,868 Speaker 12: losing situation. He deserves the money, he should take the money. 340 00:15:39,948 --> 00:15:41,908 Speaker 12: That's the NFL, that's the name of the game. That's 341 00:15:41,948 --> 00:15:44,548 Speaker 12: why salary caps are increasing, That's why We just talked 342 00:15:44,588 --> 00:15:47,508 Speaker 12: about Herbert why he's getting paid so much? God forbid 343 00:15:47,548 --> 00:15:49,708 Speaker 12: a good player take a lot of money. That's not 344 00:15:49,788 --> 00:15:52,668 Speaker 12: even the question. Here's what we need to be talking about. 345 00:15:52,828 --> 00:15:56,308 Speaker 12: This franchise, which I played for, has had a few 346 00:15:56,428 --> 00:16:00,788 Speaker 12: really generational players that we've seen in similar situation, Miles 347 00:16:00,788 --> 00:16:03,308 Speaker 12: Garrett being one of them. Should I bring up Joe Thomas, 348 00:16:03,308 --> 00:16:06,028 Speaker 12: one of the best tackles of all time, and what 349 00:16:06,068 --> 00:16:08,388 Speaker 12: do we say he was the best that didn't get 350 00:16:08,388 --> 00:16:11,108 Speaker 12: a championship. We have to start holding some of these 351 00:16:11,148 --> 00:16:15,868 Speaker 12: situations accountable. He went into a camp, training camp situation. 352 00:16:16,108 --> 00:16:18,628 Speaker 12: Do you know how many quarterbacks were on this roster 353 00:16:18,788 --> 00:16:19,668 Speaker 12: during training camp? 354 00:16:19,748 --> 00:16:24,108 Speaker 9: For six? Racious six quarterbacks. 355 00:16:24,628 --> 00:16:26,388 Speaker 12: So yeah, when they're like, hey, Miles, we're going to 356 00:16:26,428 --> 00:16:28,348 Speaker 12: resign you, we are going to choose to offer you 357 00:16:28,428 --> 00:16:30,908 Speaker 12: this money because we want you back and we have 358 00:16:30,948 --> 00:16:32,908 Speaker 12: a game plan to win, because we're in the National 359 00:16:32,908 --> 00:16:34,828 Speaker 12: Football League and that's our job is to win. 360 00:16:35,828 --> 00:16:38,868 Speaker 6: He should go back. This isn't a question. So it's just. 361 00:16:38,868 --> 00:16:41,788 Speaker 12: Frustrating because it's like he chose money. Yeah, that's what 362 00:16:41,828 --> 00:16:44,708 Speaker 12: he should do. One and the Browns should choose to 363 00:16:44,708 --> 00:16:46,988 Speaker 12: be creating a winning culture and a winning roster. 364 00:16:47,668 --> 00:16:48,428 Speaker 6: It's frustrating. 365 00:16:48,468 --> 00:16:50,348 Speaker 12: I feel very passionately about that, Miche. 366 00:16:51,068 --> 00:16:53,428 Speaker 5: My follow up question to that, Isaac and I love 367 00:16:53,468 --> 00:16:56,108 Speaker 5: to get your insight on it, is somebody like Miles 368 00:16:56,148 --> 00:16:58,988 Speaker 5: Garrett would get paid regardless of wherever he went. Totally, 369 00:16:59,148 --> 00:17:01,188 Speaker 5: he would have got paid regardless of wherever he went, 370 00:17:01,308 --> 00:17:03,308 Speaker 5: but he chose to say so. That's why I brought 371 00:17:03,348 --> 00:17:05,948 Speaker 5: up the narrative. There's a sense of loyalty there. How 372 00:17:05,948 --> 00:17:08,508 Speaker 5: do you see it? Knowing Miles Garrett personally, and do 373 00:17:08,548 --> 00:17:11,708 Speaker 5: you think that he made him moving on could have 374 00:17:11,748 --> 00:17:14,748 Speaker 5: given him the better the better chance to get a ring. 375 00:17:15,188 --> 00:17:17,028 Speaker 12: I mean, let's talk about it like we would any 376 00:17:17,108 --> 00:17:17,668 Speaker 12: human being. 377 00:17:17,748 --> 00:17:17,908 Speaker 9: Right. 378 00:17:17,948 --> 00:17:20,268 Speaker 12: I think he wanted a prop I don't know this 379 00:17:20,348 --> 00:17:22,308 Speaker 12: for a fact, right, but I think he would want 380 00:17:22,348 --> 00:17:25,068 Speaker 12: to stay in a situation that's relatively comfortable. This fan base, 381 00:17:25,108 --> 00:17:26,548 Speaker 12: by the way, is one of the best fan bases 382 00:17:26,588 --> 00:17:28,788 Speaker 12: in the country. I think this is his home. I 383 00:17:28,828 --> 00:17:31,108 Speaker 12: think he recognizes that. And I think you bring up 384 00:17:31,108 --> 00:17:33,468 Speaker 12: a good point. He could have went anywhere who wouldn't 385 00:17:33,508 --> 00:17:37,548 Speaker 12: pay the best defensive end of all time. So you 386 00:17:37,668 --> 00:17:38,948 Speaker 12: have to look at it for what it is. He 387 00:17:39,148 --> 00:17:42,068 Speaker 12: chose to come back this isn't him taking money, and 388 00:17:42,148 --> 00:17:43,868 Speaker 12: like he's like, you know what, I guess I'll just 389 00:17:43,868 --> 00:17:46,028 Speaker 12: stay because I want to get paid an extra you know, 390 00:17:46,148 --> 00:17:48,628 Speaker 12: million dollars. This guy wanted to be here, and I 391 00:17:48,708 --> 00:17:50,508 Speaker 12: think that's a testament to who he is. I think 392 00:17:50,548 --> 00:17:53,828 Speaker 12: when you say, like, how does he fit in this 393 00:17:54,108 --> 00:17:56,948 Speaker 12: big picture of being a locker room guy, whatever, there's 394 00:17:56,988 --> 00:17:57,388 Speaker 12: your answer. 395 00:17:57,428 --> 00:17:58,788 Speaker 9: He chose to come back and be a part of 396 00:17:58,788 --> 00:18:01,548 Speaker 9: this organization, So go ahead of rich. I mean, I 397 00:18:01,588 --> 00:18:02,868 Speaker 9: love what you're saying, and I agree. 398 00:18:03,308 --> 00:18:06,148 Speaker 11: When we talk about the word loyalty, I personally have 399 00:18:06,268 --> 00:18:08,668 Speaker 11: a kind of a hot take towards even just that word. 400 00:18:08,708 --> 00:18:10,948 Speaker 11: I don't think people can be loyal to people. I 401 00:18:10,948 --> 00:18:13,908 Speaker 11: don't think people can be loyal to things. What happens 402 00:18:14,028 --> 00:18:18,388 Speaker 11: is people benefit from their loyalty to who they are. 403 00:18:18,988 --> 00:18:21,948 Speaker 11: And so in an example, right if I ask my wife, 404 00:18:21,988 --> 00:18:22,788 Speaker 11: you know, would. 405 00:18:22,588 --> 00:18:23,188 Speaker 9: You ever cheat to me? 406 00:18:23,188 --> 00:18:24,508 Speaker 11: And she says no, it's I'm going to be loyal 407 00:18:24,548 --> 00:18:26,228 Speaker 11: to you, It's like, it's not you're not gonna cheat 408 00:18:26,228 --> 00:18:28,308 Speaker 11: on me. You never cheated on your exes either, and 409 00:18:28,348 --> 00:18:30,868 Speaker 11: you're not loyal to me. I benefit from your loyalty 410 00:18:32,148 --> 00:18:35,308 Speaker 11: to who you are, and so here's a situation where 411 00:18:35,308 --> 00:18:37,988 Speaker 11: the Browns are just benefiting from who this guy really 412 00:18:38,068 --> 00:18:40,708 Speaker 11: is in his heart and so I but I like it. Chase, 413 00:18:40,868 --> 00:18:42,508 Speaker 11: chase the money, do what you want. It's the National 414 00:18:42,508 --> 00:18:45,148 Speaker 11: Football League. It doesn't last for long, but it comes 415 00:18:45,148 --> 00:18:47,268 Speaker 11: to a point where he has the money check, he 416 00:18:47,348 --> 00:18:49,348 Speaker 11: has the fame. He seems like a guy that doesn't 417 00:18:49,388 --> 00:18:51,588 Speaker 11: really care about that, but he has that check, he 418 00:18:51,628 --> 00:18:55,428 Speaker 11: has the records check. What now don't you have is 419 00:18:55,428 --> 00:18:55,908 Speaker 11: a ring. 420 00:18:55,948 --> 00:18:58,468 Speaker 3: The only issue that I've taken with this entire thing 421 00:18:58,548 --> 00:19:01,228 Speaker 3: is that letter that he put out. It was so 422 00:19:01,548 --> 00:19:05,788 Speaker 3: well written, it was so intentional and purposeful with what 423 00:19:05,948 --> 00:19:06,628 Speaker 3: he was saying. 424 00:19:06,708 --> 00:19:08,508 Speaker 4: It was like there was no mincing words. 425 00:19:08,548 --> 00:19:10,908 Speaker 3: It was I was never hoping to go from Cleveland 426 00:19:10,908 --> 00:19:12,748 Speaker 3: to Canton, which, by the way, he essentially had a 427 00:19:12,748 --> 00:19:15,668 Speaker 3: one way ticket after his first two years in the NFL. 428 00:19:16,108 --> 00:19:19,228 Speaker 3: So for him to say that and then it honestly 429 00:19:19,268 --> 00:19:20,988 Speaker 3: made me chuckle, mantai when you said it, And then 430 00:19:21,068 --> 00:19:22,348 Speaker 3: four weeks later he. 431 00:19:22,428 --> 00:19:23,828 Speaker 4: Signed this ridiculous deal. 432 00:19:24,068 --> 00:19:26,148 Speaker 3: That's the only thing that's made me uncomfortable. I can 433 00:19:26,188 --> 00:19:28,628 Speaker 3: believe you that he's a great guy. I can I 434 00:19:28,628 --> 00:19:30,988 Speaker 3: can understand that like he hosted the team dinners and 435 00:19:31,068 --> 00:19:32,788 Speaker 3: he wants to stay in the city and the city 436 00:19:32,868 --> 00:19:33,588 Speaker 3: was loyal to him. 437 00:19:33,948 --> 00:19:37,308 Speaker 4: But so then why be so outfront. 438 00:19:36,788 --> 00:19:38,948 Speaker 3: With like cause we only see stuff like that. 439 00:19:39,068 --> 00:19:40,468 Speaker 4: The letters, the statements come out. 440 00:19:40,348 --> 00:19:42,788 Speaker 3: When guys are backed into a corner by a team 441 00:19:42,828 --> 00:19:44,628 Speaker 3: and the team won't trade him in a team. We 442 00:19:44,668 --> 00:19:48,588 Speaker 3: see it all the time, you know, awkward Cowboys' situations 443 00:19:48,588 --> 00:19:50,348 Speaker 3: where Jerry Jones doesn't want to pay a guy. We're 444 00:19:50,348 --> 00:19:52,628 Speaker 3: talking about it into August eighty sixth and like, all right, 445 00:19:52,668 --> 00:19:54,508 Speaker 3: we get it. Then they finally gets the contract. But 446 00:19:54,548 --> 00:19:56,868 Speaker 3: for him to put this out on like February first, 447 00:19:57,188 --> 00:19:58,668 Speaker 3: and it was the only thing that we led with 448 00:19:58,708 --> 00:20:01,548 Speaker 3: all league on GMFB, just to have it be washed 449 00:20:01,588 --> 00:20:02,628 Speaker 3: away with cash later. 450 00:20:02,828 --> 00:20:04,348 Speaker 4: That's what makes it uncomfortable for me. 451 00:20:04,748 --> 00:20:05,348 Speaker 6: This is simple. 452 00:20:05,388 --> 00:20:07,268 Speaker 12: Have you ever been in a bad relationship and went 453 00:20:07,308 --> 00:20:09,868 Speaker 12: to your partner and said, hey, I'm really unhappy in 454 00:20:09,908 --> 00:20:12,188 Speaker 12: this situation and I'm going to leave you if things 455 00:20:12,188 --> 00:20:15,188 Speaker 12: don't change, And then what happens when things change? 456 00:20:15,428 --> 00:20:16,548 Speaker 6: Can things change? I? 457 00:20:16,588 --> 00:20:17,308 Speaker 2: Can they can? 458 00:20:18,228 --> 00:20:18,468 Speaker 9: Right? 459 00:20:18,668 --> 00:20:19,668 Speaker 6: Can people change? 460 00:20:19,748 --> 00:20:21,308 Speaker 9: Yes? Can you have a change of heart? 461 00:20:21,428 --> 00:20:23,068 Speaker 6: Yes? Does money help? 462 00:20:23,268 --> 00:20:23,588 Speaker 9: Yes? 463 00:20:23,828 --> 00:20:30,988 Speaker 3: But yes, I truly Oh. 464 00:20:29,108 --> 00:20:31,868 Speaker 12: But I do think he had an optimism about this 465 00:20:31,908 --> 00:20:34,108 Speaker 12: relationship that I'm sure they expressed him. 466 00:20:34,108 --> 00:20:36,228 Speaker 6: Hey, Miles, we have a plan. We're excited to have 467 00:20:36,268 --> 00:20:36,708 Speaker 6: you packed. 468 00:20:36,748 --> 00:20:39,588 Speaker 12: Not only are we going to pay you because we 469 00:20:39,628 --> 00:20:42,188 Speaker 12: appreciate you, but you know, here's our thoughts on this. 470 00:20:42,388 --> 00:20:43,868 Speaker 9: So that's my thing on it. 471 00:20:43,908 --> 00:20:45,588 Speaker 12: I mean, I don't think he would have taken the 472 00:20:45,588 --> 00:20:48,028 Speaker 12: deal if they didn't have some type of game plane 473 00:20:48,788 --> 00:20:51,748 Speaker 12: that didn't include having six quarterbacks in your quarterback room 474 00:20:51,788 --> 00:20:52,548 Speaker 12: during training camp. 475 00:20:52,828 --> 00:20:54,188 Speaker 4: Maybe that's what we should be talking about. 476 00:20:54,388 --> 00:20:56,348 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think to awesome this up. 477 00:20:56,668 --> 00:20:59,988 Speaker 5: Whether he's in a Cleveland Browns jersey or another one, 478 00:20:59,828 --> 00:21:02,948 Speaker 5: the impact that he's made on the game of football 479 00:21:02,988 --> 00:21:04,988 Speaker 5: has been a major one and it will continue to 480 00:21:05,028 --> 00:21:07,628 Speaker 5: be one. I just hope for him that the by 481 00:21:07,668 --> 00:21:09,908 Speaker 5: the time he hangs up these cleats that he has 482 00:21:09,948 --> 00:21:12,788 Speaker 5: a major piece of jewelry on his finger to kind. 483 00:21:12,628 --> 00:21:15,148 Speaker 6: Of wrap this whole Hall of Fame career that he's having. 484 00:21:15,188 --> 00:21:18,148 Speaker 5: So man, shout out to Miles Garrett, shout to everybody. 485 00:21:18,148 --> 00:21:21,908 Speaker 5: Great job, guys, great conversation this is and that was major. 486 00:21:21,988 --> 00:21:22,988 Speaker 9: Don't you go anywhere. 487 00:21:23,108 --> 00:21:24,908 Speaker 6: It's good morning football. Let's roll. 488 00:21:37,468 --> 00:21:39,108 Speaker 2: Good morning football. 489 00:21:41,028 --> 00:21:43,508 Speaker 10: We're going to choose only fourteen teams in the twenty 490 00:21:43,548 --> 00:21:44,828 Speaker 10: twenty five NFL playoffs. 491 00:21:44,828 --> 00:21:48,388 Speaker 2: Coaching and quarter I got the. 492 00:21:48,388 --> 00:21:51,628 Speaker 3: Steerlessness, yeah, because quarterback changes are hard. 493 00:21:51,868 --> 00:21:54,428 Speaker 2: Fly Eagles, fly nasty. 494 00:21:55,028 --> 00:21:56,428 Speaker 6: I got the La Rams. 495 00:21:56,788 --> 00:21:57,588 Speaker 4: They're not in either. 496 00:21:57,668 --> 00:22:00,708 Speaker 3: Okay, in the West. 497 00:22:00,748 --> 00:22:03,708 Speaker 10: I know there are Niners fans wondering what drug I'm 498 00:22:03,748 --> 00:22:04,148 Speaker 10: on right now. 499 00:22:04,468 --> 00:22:06,468 Speaker 2: The drug of football had both of these teams. 500 00:22:06,788 --> 00:22:07,308 Speaker 6: No, you don't. 501 00:22:07,548 --> 00:22:13,548 Speaker 3: San Francisco, NFC North Chiefs. 502 00:22:15,788 --> 00:22:19,908 Speaker 2: These all right. 503 00:22:19,948 --> 00:22:22,868 Speaker 10: That was a long time ago, in a galaxy far 504 00:22:23,028 --> 00:22:25,988 Speaker 10: far away. Before the twenty twenty five NFL season started. 505 00:22:26,028 --> 00:22:28,988 Speaker 10: We had our fun and we took our shots at 506 00:22:29,028 --> 00:22:30,948 Speaker 10: which teams we thought would be in the playoffs. We 507 00:22:30,988 --> 00:22:33,428 Speaker 10: even did the preseason awards like Coach of the Year 508 00:22:33,428 --> 00:22:34,908 Speaker 10: and Rookie the Year and off it'sive player there and 509 00:22:34,908 --> 00:22:37,508 Speaker 10: all that stuff. So let's just take a peek, because 510 00:22:38,188 --> 00:22:39,748 Speaker 10: we might be right, we might be wrong. A lot 511 00:22:39,748 --> 00:22:41,428 Speaker 10: of things are going to change between now the end 512 00:22:41,508 --> 00:22:43,748 Speaker 10: of the season. But we have four categories we're going 513 00:22:43,828 --> 00:22:45,308 Speaker 10: to go through to just take a look at. We're 514 00:22:45,308 --> 00:22:48,468 Speaker 10: preseason playoff pick that we're most proud of, preseason pick 515 00:22:48,508 --> 00:22:50,828 Speaker 10: that we're most annoyed by, that we made, the one 516 00:22:50,868 --> 00:22:53,188 Speaker 10: that we wish we could change, and then finally the 517 00:22:53,268 --> 00:22:55,668 Speaker 10: preseason pick that we just want to say, Yeah, I'm 518 00:22:55,748 --> 00:22:56,388 Speaker 10: doubling down. 519 00:22:56,428 --> 00:22:59,068 Speaker 9: You may not like it, but I'm still all in. 520 00:22:59,828 --> 00:23:00,708 Speaker 6: So I will start. 521 00:23:00,748 --> 00:23:04,228 Speaker 10: Here are my playoff picks to start the season, which I, honestly. 522 00:23:04,188 --> 00:23:05,308 Speaker 6: I feel very good about. 523 00:23:06,348 --> 00:23:08,748 Speaker 10: I know, the Bears, someone jumps out as being strange, 524 00:23:08,788 --> 00:23:11,868 Speaker 10: but everything else, I mean, the wildcard teams, the division champs, like, 525 00:23:12,228 --> 00:23:14,308 Speaker 10: I'm pretty comfortable with that. Right now, let's go to 526 00:23:14,308 --> 00:23:18,068 Speaker 10: the AFC, should we do that? Because the Ravens have 527 00:23:18,148 --> 00:23:21,308 Speaker 10: been rough. I like my wild cards. I like pretty 528 00:23:21,388 --> 00:23:23,388 Speaker 10: much everything except the Ravens record is not good. But 529 00:23:23,388 --> 00:23:24,788 Speaker 10: maybe they'll win tonight and we'll make that look a 530 00:23:24,788 --> 00:23:27,228 Speaker 10: little bit better. So I'll go through this quickly. The 531 00:23:27,268 --> 00:23:29,468 Speaker 10: one I'm most proud of is easily I refer to 532 00:23:29,508 --> 00:23:31,908 Speaker 10: them now as they who must not be named, the 533 00:23:32,028 --> 00:23:35,868 Speaker 10: Seattle Seahawks. I had winning the NFC West, not as 534 00:23:35,868 --> 00:23:40,188 Speaker 10: a wild card, not behind the Rams, not behind San Francisco, 535 00:23:40,588 --> 00:23:43,628 Speaker 10: but the Sam Darnold, wildly unproven Seahawks. 536 00:23:44,148 --> 00:23:45,268 Speaker 9: I love that constantly. 537 00:23:45,428 --> 00:23:47,148 Speaker 10: I love the Jackon Smith and Jigbud Dunks of the 538 00:23:47,188 --> 00:23:49,788 Speaker 10: crossbar and gets flagged for it. But it's like everywhere 539 00:23:49,828 --> 00:23:51,988 Speaker 10: all over NFL media, including on our show. But you 540 00:23:51,988 --> 00:23:53,708 Speaker 10: know why, because it's awesome and we should have a 541 00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:55,188 Speaker 10: look at that rule, the Jimmy Graham rule. 542 00:23:55,308 --> 00:23:56,348 Speaker 9: Either way, I'm. 543 00:23:56,228 --> 00:23:58,268 Speaker 10: Most proud by that because I don't think many people 544 00:23:58,268 --> 00:23:59,868 Speaker 10: were picking them, and I took a shot and it's 545 00:23:59,868 --> 00:24:02,188 Speaker 10: looked good so far. The one that I'm most annoyed 546 00:24:02,228 --> 00:24:03,788 Speaker 10: by is actually not a playoff pick. 547 00:24:03,828 --> 00:24:05,148 Speaker 9: The most annoyed by. 548 00:24:05,028 --> 00:24:07,468 Speaker 10: Guys is my pick for offensive Rookie of the Year. 549 00:24:08,588 --> 00:24:11,908 Speaker 10: I was sitting here saying, cam Ward, it's not been 550 00:24:11,948 --> 00:24:13,748 Speaker 10: great down in Tennessee. If you were to tell me 551 00:24:13,788 --> 00:24:15,588 Speaker 10: that just a handful of weeks into the season, cam 552 00:24:15,588 --> 00:24:18,668 Speaker 10: Ward's coach would be fired. But I also didn't know 553 00:24:18,668 --> 00:24:21,308 Speaker 10: that a Mecca Buca would be incredible in Tampa. 554 00:24:21,468 --> 00:24:22,108 Speaker 9: I did know that. 555 00:24:22,148 --> 00:24:24,908 Speaker 10: Tyler Warren would be in Indianapolis, and guys, I don't 556 00:24:24,948 --> 00:24:26,548 Speaker 10: know who else could be a front runner for Rookie 557 00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:28,228 Speaker 10: of the Year right now on offense except for those 558 00:24:28,268 --> 00:24:31,268 Speaker 10: two guys. I mean, I'm I missing somebody I don't know. 559 00:24:31,348 --> 00:24:32,828 Speaker 10: But I know that cam Ward has a lot of 560 00:24:32,828 --> 00:24:34,148 Speaker 10: work to do, and so to the Titan, so that 561 00:24:34,148 --> 00:24:37,028 Speaker 10: one's annoying. The one I wish I could change, I'm 562 00:24:37,028 --> 00:24:40,028 Speaker 10: considering it none. My answer to this is none. I 563 00:24:40,068 --> 00:24:42,148 Speaker 10: don't believe in changing your picks. I believe in owning 564 00:24:42,188 --> 00:24:44,348 Speaker 10: your picks. You guys can change one if you want to. 565 00:24:44,388 --> 00:24:46,428 Speaker 10: But my honest question, there's none of them that I 566 00:24:46,468 --> 00:24:48,988 Speaker 10: would say, well, if only i'd done this, I still 567 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:50,548 Speaker 10: think all of my picks are going to be right. 568 00:24:50,628 --> 00:24:52,468 Speaker 10: And we're only in what week nine or whatever. It 569 00:24:52,508 --> 00:24:55,388 Speaker 10: is my pick that I wish I could double down on. 570 00:24:55,588 --> 00:24:57,788 Speaker 10: It's six guys. It's always I refer to it as 571 00:24:57,828 --> 00:24:59,988 Speaker 10: the center square in the game of bingo. 572 00:25:00,428 --> 00:25:01,308 Speaker 6: It's the Steelers. 573 00:25:01,508 --> 00:25:03,908 Speaker 10: I know the defense is way down right now. I 574 00:25:03,908 --> 00:25:06,948 Speaker 10: know people streaming about Mike Tomlin this. I know the 575 00:25:07,028 --> 00:25:10,828 Speaker 10: uniforms were something. But I also know that we're gonna 576 00:25:10,828 --> 00:25:12,268 Speaker 10: be sitting there at the end of the season and 577 00:25:12,308 --> 00:25:13,948 Speaker 10: you take your pick. Is it nine and eight and 578 00:25:13,988 --> 00:25:16,068 Speaker 10: they squeak in or is it ten and seven and 579 00:25:16,108 --> 00:25:17,668 Speaker 10: they have a nice comfortable wild card. 580 00:25:17,708 --> 00:25:19,908 Speaker 9: It is still going to happen. I won't deviate. 581 00:25:19,948 --> 00:25:22,628 Speaker 10: If they lose this weekend again to the Colts, it 582 00:25:22,708 --> 00:25:24,628 Speaker 10: will happen, and I will double down on it. 583 00:25:25,148 --> 00:25:26,628 Speaker 9: Mike, your thoughts on some of these. 584 00:25:26,548 --> 00:25:27,628 Speaker 6: Picks and some of these statements. 585 00:25:27,628 --> 00:25:29,028 Speaker 13: I'm gonna go right to the Steelers and I showed 586 00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:31,188 Speaker 13: you this email. We get these email from these people 587 00:25:31,188 --> 00:25:31,668 Speaker 13: who have oh. 588 00:25:31,588 --> 00:25:32,828 Speaker 6: Here here where the projected win. 589 00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:36,108 Speaker 13: Oh yeah, yeah, projected win before the season week four, 590 00:25:36,308 --> 00:25:37,708 Speaker 13: and here's where they are right now. 591 00:25:37,748 --> 00:25:39,988 Speaker 9: And there's like great variation. Obviously the Colts were like 592 00:25:40,028 --> 00:25:40,788 Speaker 9: seven and a half. 593 00:25:40,788 --> 00:25:42,108 Speaker 5: Now they're up to twelve and a half. 594 00:25:42,388 --> 00:25:46,268 Speaker 13: For the Pittsburgh Steelers Week one, eight and a half, 595 00:25:46,868 --> 00:25:50,588 Speaker 13: Week four, eight and a half right now, but eight 596 00:25:50,628 --> 00:25:53,468 Speaker 13: and a half, No, everybody knows exactly where it is. 597 00:25:53,748 --> 00:25:54,988 Speaker 6: Are the is this the year? 598 00:25:55,228 --> 00:25:57,748 Speaker 13: Is this the year Mike Toma doesn't have a winning record? 599 00:25:57,948 --> 00:25:59,748 Speaker 13: And like at one point you go, oh, maybe they're 600 00:25:59,748 --> 00:26:01,788 Speaker 13: gonna win eleven. No, no, no, it's gonna be right around 601 00:26:01,828 --> 00:26:03,268 Speaker 13: that eight and a half. And we still don't though 602 00:26:03,388 --> 00:26:04,308 Speaker 13: right where we were week ones. 603 00:26:04,588 --> 00:26:07,508 Speaker 10: Something never changed, Jamie. We saw a clip of this 604 00:26:07,548 --> 00:26:10,068 Speaker 10: at the beginning of the season. You were surrounded by 605 00:26:10,108 --> 00:26:12,348 Speaker 10: the helmets and you're tossing off the ones you didn't 606 00:26:12,388 --> 00:26:14,228 Speaker 10: think you're making you toss on this one, not tossing 607 00:26:14,228 --> 00:26:16,948 Speaker 10: this one. Which one of those tosses may be do 608 00:26:16,988 --> 00:26:17,748 Speaker 10: you feel good about? 609 00:26:17,748 --> 00:26:18,268 Speaker 6: Great about? 610 00:26:18,348 --> 00:26:20,748 Speaker 10: Just take the floor and answer our four categories, Jamie. 611 00:26:21,268 --> 00:26:23,588 Speaker 3: One thing that I like about prediction rewind is something 612 00:26:23,628 --> 00:26:26,468 Speaker 3: stay consistent, and I just love how unabashedly Kyle will 613 00:26:26,508 --> 00:26:29,308 Speaker 3: never change one of his opinions, and I appreciate and 614 00:26:29,348 --> 00:26:32,268 Speaker 3: respect out about you. Pull up my whatever conference you 615 00:26:32,348 --> 00:26:34,108 Speaker 3: want to show me first, here's my NFC. 616 00:26:34,948 --> 00:26:37,748 Speaker 4: I feel pretty good about down the slot. I know 617 00:26:37,828 --> 00:26:38,428 Speaker 4: that big. 618 00:26:38,228 --> 00:26:41,868 Speaker 3: Purple blonded haired man with thorns on his head looks uncomfortable. 619 00:26:41,868 --> 00:26:43,308 Speaker 4: Now you know whether. 620 00:26:43,548 --> 00:26:48,148 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy was healthy, And yes, I do have the 621 00:26:48,148 --> 00:26:49,708 Speaker 3: Giants on the right side of the screen, and I 622 00:26:49,748 --> 00:26:51,628 Speaker 3: actually think they could have made a fun little run 623 00:26:51,628 --> 00:26:53,428 Speaker 3: if they had just not been decimated with injuries on 624 00:26:53,468 --> 00:26:55,428 Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball. But I feel good 625 00:26:55,468 --> 00:26:58,548 Speaker 3: about most of my selections on the AFC side. 626 00:26:59,028 --> 00:27:01,428 Speaker 4: That's where I'm going to start. I am most proud. 627 00:27:01,148 --> 00:27:03,348 Speaker 3: Of putting that Patriots logo in the wild card. 628 00:27:03,628 --> 00:27:03,988 Speaker 4: I was. 629 00:27:04,668 --> 00:27:07,588 Speaker 3: I was a fan of Will Campbell when he walked 630 00:27:07,588 --> 00:27:10,228 Speaker 3: across the stage in Green Bay. And Kyle's laughing at 631 00:27:10,228 --> 00:27:13,188 Speaker 3: me because like, why is it just a singular draft 632 00:27:13,228 --> 00:27:14,548 Speaker 3: pick on the offensive line. 633 00:27:14,668 --> 00:27:15,108 Speaker 2: I don't know. 634 00:27:15,188 --> 00:27:16,668 Speaker 3: There was just a vibe in a mood and the 635 00:27:16,708 --> 00:27:18,308 Speaker 3: fact that guy with tears in his eyes that he 636 00:27:18,348 --> 00:27:20,348 Speaker 3: would protect his quarterback at all costs. 637 00:27:20,548 --> 00:27:22,548 Speaker 4: And then Mike Brabel's in town. So I'm really proud 638 00:27:22,588 --> 00:27:24,428 Speaker 4: of that. I am most. 639 00:27:24,268 --> 00:27:26,548 Speaker 3: Annoyed by and I mentioned it already there he is Rabel. 640 00:27:26,588 --> 00:27:28,748 Speaker 3: He's fully flipped the culture. They did not have a 641 00:27:28,788 --> 00:27:30,428 Speaker 3: good start, man Ti. You mentioned it at the start 642 00:27:30,468 --> 00:27:32,628 Speaker 3: of the season, but the way that he didn't kind 643 00:27:32,668 --> 00:27:34,788 Speaker 3: of he was unbothered by this turn things around. Fully, 644 00:27:34,868 --> 00:27:38,068 Speaker 3: Drake May's playing out of his mind, and I'm proud 645 00:27:38,108 --> 00:27:42,228 Speaker 3: of that. Standing by the quick turnaround that Brabel can accomplish. 646 00:27:42,308 --> 00:27:44,388 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pair annoyed and the. 647 00:27:44,348 --> 00:27:47,268 Speaker 3: One that I would want to change together. I'm annoyed 648 00:27:47,308 --> 00:27:50,628 Speaker 3: by what has gone down with the Minnesota Vikings. I 649 00:27:50,748 --> 00:27:53,868 Speaker 3: just think it's in injury aside. It's just been an 650 00:27:53,948 --> 00:27:57,148 Speaker 3: uncomfortable watch for them at times. The NFC North as 651 00:27:57,188 --> 00:28:00,508 Speaker 3: a whole is a landscape that I wish not to 652 00:28:00,508 --> 00:28:02,828 Speaker 3: be a part of anymore. I put the Packers in 653 00:28:02,868 --> 00:28:05,908 Speaker 3: a lot because of Michael Parsons, influenced by recency bias. 654 00:28:05,988 --> 00:28:07,628 Speaker 3: When I was making my playoff picks, I put Mike 655 00:28:07,788 --> 00:28:10,068 Speaker 3: Parsons in. He was my defensive player of the Year pick, 656 00:28:10,548 --> 00:28:12,588 Speaker 3: and I got yelled at a little bit. 657 00:28:12,428 --> 00:28:14,388 Speaker 4: By Lions fans, but mostly they're respectful. 658 00:28:14,428 --> 00:28:15,548 Speaker 3: I just thought they were going to go by the 659 00:28:15,548 --> 00:28:17,388 Speaker 3: way of the Eagles. You know, a ton of change 660 00:28:17,428 --> 00:28:19,628 Speaker 3: in the coaching spots. I think eight coach coaches left, 661 00:28:19,788 --> 00:28:21,988 Speaker 3: and I know that's a generic, you know approach, but 662 00:28:22,708 --> 00:28:24,468 Speaker 3: change can breed poor results. 663 00:28:24,508 --> 00:28:26,068 Speaker 4: The Lions have looked amazing. 664 00:28:26,188 --> 00:28:28,508 Speaker 3: So I'm annoyed with myself by being influenced by what 665 00:28:28,508 --> 00:28:29,948 Speaker 3: happened to the Eagles a couple of years ago. 666 00:28:30,468 --> 00:28:33,068 Speaker 4: And I just I would change. 667 00:28:32,748 --> 00:28:35,228 Speaker 3: Some of my jockeying for position within the NFC North. 668 00:28:35,268 --> 00:28:38,628 Speaker 4: And lastly, I am going to double down back to. 669 00:28:38,588 --> 00:28:41,508 Speaker 3: The AFC side of things and maintain that the Broncos 670 00:28:41,548 --> 00:28:42,828 Speaker 3: are going to win the AFC West. 671 00:28:43,188 --> 00:28:44,268 Speaker 4: Broncos are playing great. 672 00:28:44,908 --> 00:28:48,228 Speaker 3: Sean Payton is getting under everybody's skin in that division 673 00:28:48,308 --> 00:28:51,148 Speaker 3: and in the AFC, and I think something is happening 674 00:28:51,308 --> 00:28:53,948 Speaker 3: with bo Nix and the fact that in his second 675 00:28:54,028 --> 00:28:56,188 Speaker 3: year we just had a conversation about Drake May and 676 00:28:56,188 --> 00:28:56,668 Speaker 3: bo Nix. 677 00:28:56,788 --> 00:28:57,508 Speaker 4: No one really. 678 00:28:57,308 --> 00:28:58,908 Speaker 3: Could have thought that those were the two guys that 679 00:28:58,908 --> 00:29:01,148 Speaker 3: we were staring at in their second year. The defense 680 00:29:01,228 --> 00:29:03,388 Speaker 3: is so good. Patrick Tan hurt, but he'll come back. 681 00:29:03,668 --> 00:29:05,708 Speaker 3: And I'm to double down on the fact, Mike ge 682 00:29:05,868 --> 00:29:07,708 Speaker 3: that I still have the Broncos winning that division. 683 00:29:08,868 --> 00:29:11,428 Speaker 13: Jamie on the whole, really good, really good. 684 00:29:12,148 --> 00:29:12,908 Speaker 9: I am curious. 685 00:29:12,908 --> 00:29:15,228 Speaker 13: I meant to ask you at the time, and I 686 00:29:15,268 --> 00:29:16,668 Speaker 13: think I saw you week one on the field. 687 00:29:16,708 --> 00:29:18,628 Speaker 9: I think that was the point game. Yes, as the opener. 688 00:29:18,828 --> 00:29:19,548 Speaker 6: I could have asked you. 689 00:29:19,588 --> 00:29:21,948 Speaker 13: Then I want to ask you now what what was 690 00:29:21,988 --> 00:29:24,388 Speaker 13: the path to the playoffs for the Giants? Because everybody 691 00:29:24,428 --> 00:29:28,268 Speaker 13: said Russell Wilson is the starter. Look at this gauntlet 692 00:29:28,268 --> 00:29:30,108 Speaker 13: of a schedule. It's not even like well they could 693 00:29:30,108 --> 00:29:31,908 Speaker 13: pick up a bunch of ways, Like where in your 694 00:29:32,108 --> 00:29:34,268 Speaker 13: mind's eye? Where where was that question? 695 00:29:34,548 --> 00:29:37,108 Speaker 3: I roll my eyes at strength of schedule, guy, I 696 00:29:37,188 --> 00:29:39,668 Speaker 3: really do. I just I think it's I think it's 697 00:29:39,708 --> 00:29:42,908 Speaker 3: really lame. I just think any you know, any given weekend, 698 00:29:42,948 --> 00:29:46,308 Speaker 3: and this season in particular, has proved that that you 699 00:29:46,388 --> 00:29:48,948 Speaker 3: cannot tell me that a certain team strength of schedule 700 00:29:48,948 --> 00:29:51,508 Speaker 3: in week one is a joke because some team that 701 00:29:51,548 --> 00:29:53,268 Speaker 3: they are going to play could have totally fallen on 702 00:29:53,268 --> 00:29:54,948 Speaker 3: their faces and then the metric changes. 703 00:29:54,988 --> 00:29:57,228 Speaker 4: So I really don't go by that whatsoever. What I 704 00:29:57,228 --> 00:29:58,108 Speaker 4: do go by is. 705 00:29:58,108 --> 00:30:00,428 Speaker 3: Unfortunately it's a word that I'm going to use vibes, 706 00:30:00,668 --> 00:30:03,468 Speaker 3: and I think that in the desperation that Mike Vrabel 707 00:30:03,548 --> 00:30:06,228 Speaker 3: or not break Ryan Dabele was going to have to 708 00:30:06,308 --> 00:30:08,948 Speaker 3: take on in this year, and his coaching Joe Shane, 709 00:30:09,028 --> 00:30:12,348 Speaker 3: they all had their entire futures laying in the hands 710 00:30:12,348 --> 00:30:14,028 Speaker 3: of this draft pick that they jumped up for to 711 00:30:14,028 --> 00:30:16,348 Speaker 3: get Jackson Dark. I never thought Russell Wilson was going 712 00:30:16,388 --> 00:30:18,548 Speaker 3: to finish the season. I thought, you know, Kyle and 713 00:30:18,588 --> 00:30:20,868 Speaker 3: I I remember a year ago, we're talking about Jacoby 714 00:30:20,868 --> 00:30:23,348 Speaker 3: Brissett or Drake May, and I thought you should wait 715 00:30:23,388 --> 00:30:25,908 Speaker 3: to start Drake May, which ended up happening fine. So 716 00:30:26,028 --> 00:30:27,268 Speaker 3: I always thought Jackson Dart was. 717 00:30:27,268 --> 00:30:28,748 Speaker 4: Going to come in. I didn't know he was going 718 00:30:28,788 --> 00:30:30,148 Speaker 4: to be as much of a spark. 719 00:30:30,188 --> 00:30:31,748 Speaker 3: I just thought it was going to be that feel 720 00:30:31,788 --> 00:30:32,828 Speaker 3: good Cinderella team. 721 00:30:32,868 --> 00:30:34,708 Speaker 4: Even if they got blown out in the first round. 722 00:30:34,908 --> 00:30:36,428 Speaker 4: I thought they were going to eke in and we 723 00:30:36,428 --> 00:30:37,428 Speaker 4: were all going to love them. 724 00:30:37,628 --> 00:30:37,908 Speaker 9: Yeah. 725 00:30:37,988 --> 00:30:40,308 Speaker 13: Now I understand the thought process and we're in a 726 00:30:40,308 --> 00:30:43,428 Speaker 13: real interesting scenario with the Giants where they could win 727 00:30:44,028 --> 00:30:47,428 Speaker 13: five to six games. Let's say, and we could say, hey, 728 00:30:47,428 --> 00:30:50,868 Speaker 13: Brian Dabele has secured his job, because what's happening with 729 00:30:50,908 --> 00:30:53,508 Speaker 13: the quarterback and everything moving in the right direction. It's 730 00:30:53,508 --> 00:30:56,468 Speaker 13: going to be a fascinating conversation with the Giants down 731 00:30:56,508 --> 00:30:57,908 Speaker 13: the stretch here with regard to what they're going to 732 00:30:57,948 --> 00:30:58,508 Speaker 13: do moving well. 733 00:30:58,548 --> 00:31:02,308 Speaker 10: Speaking of fascinating, let's look at Manti Tao's picks. Manti 734 00:31:02,388 --> 00:31:05,428 Speaker 10: talkers through them, and then let's get to the four categories. 735 00:31:05,548 --> 00:31:07,908 Speaker 10: You are, my friend, Romantis. 736 00:31:07,388 --> 00:31:09,588 Speaker 5: Than you put the picks up there, please, I want 737 00:31:09,628 --> 00:31:11,748 Speaker 5: to see what my picks were. First of all, it 738 00:31:11,788 --> 00:31:14,188 Speaker 5: was a great weekend over there. A week in Philly 739 00:31:14,228 --> 00:31:17,108 Speaker 5: with everybody is a great vibe, a lot of a 740 00:31:17,108 --> 00:31:19,548 Speaker 5: lot of energy there. I do like the Niners that 741 00:31:19,588 --> 00:31:21,948 Speaker 5: I brought him into that playoff. 742 00:31:21,828 --> 00:31:24,348 Speaker 6: Category at the wild card spot. 743 00:31:24,428 --> 00:31:26,708 Speaker 5: Let's put the AFC because I'll start off with my 744 00:31:26,748 --> 00:31:30,708 Speaker 5: AFC picture. I am most proud of my Broncos pick 745 00:31:31,228 --> 00:31:34,548 Speaker 5: as the AFC West champions. I am also most proud 746 00:31:34,588 --> 00:31:34,948 Speaker 5: that I. 747 00:31:34,948 --> 00:31:37,988 Speaker 6: Have three a AFC West teams. 748 00:31:37,588 --> 00:31:40,948 Speaker 5: In the playoffs because they're looking as far as the Chargers, 749 00:31:41,428 --> 00:31:44,148 Speaker 5: the Broncos and the Chiefs, they are looking like all 750 00:31:44,148 --> 00:31:45,828 Speaker 5: three will be in the playoff picture. So I'm most 751 00:31:45,868 --> 00:31:47,948 Speaker 5: proud of the Broncos and the AFC West, three of 752 00:31:47,988 --> 00:31:50,948 Speaker 5: the AFC West teams being in there. I am most 753 00:31:50,988 --> 00:31:53,028 Speaker 5: annoyed by my Lions pick. And the reason why I'm 754 00:31:53,108 --> 00:31:54,548 Speaker 5: most annoyed by my Lions. 755 00:31:54,308 --> 00:31:54,788 Speaker 9: Pick is this. 756 00:31:54,908 --> 00:31:57,548 Speaker 5: For somebody who talks a lot about culture, somebody who 757 00:31:57,588 --> 00:32:00,748 Speaker 5: talks a lot about Dan Campbell, I let the departure 758 00:32:00,748 --> 00:32:03,068 Speaker 5: of both coordinators get to me. I let the departure 759 00:32:03,068 --> 00:32:05,188 Speaker 5: of Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson kind of. 760 00:32:05,188 --> 00:32:06,188 Speaker 9: Rattle me a little bit. 761 00:32:06,228 --> 00:32:09,548 Speaker 5: And and I didn't put them as the NFC North 762 00:32:09,628 --> 00:32:11,828 Speaker 5: champs were. My gut told me to put them, and 763 00:32:11,868 --> 00:32:13,388 Speaker 5: I should have stuck with my gut there. 764 00:32:13,388 --> 00:32:15,548 Speaker 6: So that's the That's a pick that annoys me, which 765 00:32:15,588 --> 00:32:17,948 Speaker 6: leads me into the pick that I wish I could change. 766 00:32:17,988 --> 00:32:21,268 Speaker 6: I wish I could change my Bikings pick. My Bikings pick. 767 00:32:21,148 --> 00:32:25,548 Speaker 5: I picked as an NFC North champs. It's not looking 768 00:32:25,548 --> 00:32:28,268 Speaker 5: good for them, and I didn't anticipate that. I have 769 00:32:28,428 --> 00:32:32,508 Speaker 5: full belief in Kevin O'Connell. And no matter how how 770 00:32:32,588 --> 00:32:35,068 Speaker 5: this season may go. Kevin O'Connell to me, is one 771 00:32:35,068 --> 00:32:36,748 Speaker 5: of the best coaches in the NFL. I just don't 772 00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:40,708 Speaker 5: think it that the season is it's going the way 773 00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:41,908 Speaker 5: he expected. 774 00:32:41,428 --> 00:32:44,548 Speaker 6: It to go. But that the pick that I will. 775 00:32:44,388 --> 00:32:48,428 Speaker 5: Double down on the Ravens when winning the AFC North. 776 00:32:49,108 --> 00:32:52,108 Speaker 6: They are really they are. Even though they have won, 777 00:32:52,348 --> 00:32:54,188 Speaker 6: they have lost a few games. They still want to 778 00:32:54,188 --> 00:32:54,868 Speaker 6: know in the division. 779 00:32:55,548 --> 00:32:59,108 Speaker 5: They have five of their division opponents are left, and 780 00:32:59,188 --> 00:33:02,548 Speaker 5: with Lamar coming back, I am excited to see what 781 00:33:02,588 --> 00:33:06,268 Speaker 5: that dynamic looks like because if that defense can continue 782 00:33:06,308 --> 00:33:08,068 Speaker 5: to play the way they played last week. 783 00:33:08,148 --> 00:33:10,108 Speaker 6: Now, last week, guys, they played. 784 00:33:10,308 --> 00:33:13,068 Speaker 5: Caleb Williams and the Bears, and it was no joke 785 00:33:14,188 --> 00:33:15,908 Speaker 5: when you when you go against a team like that 786 00:33:15,908 --> 00:33:18,148 Speaker 5: that Ben Johnson had going and the momentum that they 787 00:33:18,148 --> 00:33:18,628 Speaker 5: have going. 788 00:33:18,468 --> 00:33:19,308 Speaker 6: Over there in Chicago. 789 00:33:19,468 --> 00:33:22,108 Speaker 5: So I was really impressed with their defensive performance. So 790 00:33:22,148 --> 00:33:25,028 Speaker 5: I'm doubling down that the Ravens will win the AFC North. 791 00:33:25,268 --> 00:33:25,708 Speaker 6: Here's what you. 792 00:33:25,668 --> 00:33:28,628 Speaker 13: Should be most proud of, man, Titeo, no homer picks. 793 00:33:28,868 --> 00:33:31,188 Speaker 13: You could have had the Chargers as a division champion. 794 00:33:31,228 --> 00:33:32,708 Speaker 9: You said, no, good to hate. 795 00:33:32,548 --> 00:33:34,908 Speaker 13: The wild card team and the Saints are nowhere to 796 00:33:34,948 --> 00:33:37,188 Speaker 13: be found. That Florida ly you were talking, it was 797 00:33:37,268 --> 00:33:39,188 Speaker 13: last week or the week before, about how we got 798 00:33:39,188 --> 00:33:40,948 Speaker 13: to talk about the Saints more, and you were playfully 799 00:33:41,308 --> 00:33:43,348 Speaker 13: pumping up the Saints. You said, no, I'm not even 800 00:33:43,388 --> 00:33:44,868 Speaker 13: gonna put them in the playoff picture. That was a 801 00:33:44,868 --> 00:33:45,428 Speaker 13: good call, man. 802 00:33:45,868 --> 00:33:47,948 Speaker 10: Can't wait till the end of season look back. So 803 00:33:47,988 --> 00:33:50,188 Speaker 10: that's the one where the gloves really comes off. 804 00:33:50,268 --> 00:33:52,388 Speaker 9: My friends, I don't know'll be here like that.