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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt picking off our number two here.

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Speaker 2: It is time to do a little Fantasy football focus

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Speaker 2: here and with two standalone games on Wednesday, good teams,

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Speaker 2: good teams, teams that we know. Well, let's go ahead

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Speaker 2: and put together a DFS line up here. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: go fifty to fifty with the no captain's chair here.

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Speaker 2: We don't need a captain. We're just gonna go play

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Speaker 2: this like a normal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're so position. We need a defense, so it's

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Speaker 3: going to be interesting.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to find the right combination of players the.

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Speaker 3: Four defenses to pick for four quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: So there's gonna be some chalky stuff here. So we're

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Speaker 2: going to find a way to put this together the

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Speaker 2: best the best situation. So looking at the defenses, obviously

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Speaker 2: there's only four. The Ravens are thirty two hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens should be the most expensive.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are three thousand, The Steelers are twenty eight

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Speaker 2: hundred and the Texans are twenty six hundred.

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Speaker 3: Texans have a good defense.

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Speaker 2: Both home teams cheaper than the road teams.

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Speaker 3: I almost kind of want to come back to this

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Speaker 3: because I don't have a problem with any of the.

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Speaker 2: Four, nor do I have. Right, Let's look at tight end.

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Speaker 2: Okay Kelsey is fifty three hundred, Mark Andrews is forty

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Speaker 2: three hundred. Daltons, what are the Texans against tight ends?

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Speaker 2: The Texans are eleventh. Dalton Schultz is forty one hundred,

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Speaker 2: Pat Fryarmouth thirty nine hundred, Isaiah Likely thirty five hundred,

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Speaker 2: Noah Gray is thirty three hundred. They are now Washington

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Speaker 2: twenty five hundred. I'm just I'm just looking here. That's

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Speaker 2: really the guys that really play. Michael Prue is twenty

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Speaker 2: five hundred, Connor Hayward is twenty five hundred. The Chiefs

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Speaker 2: are thirtieth against opposing tight ends. I kind of like

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Speaker 2: friar Mouth there.

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Speaker 3: My suggestion is going to be Schultz with dell Out.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's not a bad pivot too, yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean Deontay is not going to play or be

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Speaker 3: a part of the Texans at all. I'm not a

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Speaker 3: huge of Schultz believer, you know, I think he's a

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Speaker 3: little overrated.

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Speaker 2: But he does get a lot of targets.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, especially we've seen what their offense looks like

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Speaker 3: with one of the two receivers out, and he gets

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Speaker 2: He got eight targets in the last game against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Now that is against he carried five for forty five

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Speaker 3: Dell got hurt like in the second quarter. I know

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Speaker 3: it was the first half, yeah, but it wasn't. I

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Speaker 3: don't know problem with Friarmuth, but I do think Schultz

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Speaker 3: is cheaper Sulton.

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Speaker 2: Schultz is two hundred dollars more more. Okay, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean we can if we have we need the money.

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Speaker 3: Fiddle around with it.

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Speaker 2: We can go with Schultz and if we need the money,

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Speaker 2: we can go to front. I think Friarmuth, like is

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Speaker 2: over under in this game is like thirty and a half.

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Speaker 2: I like you, that's that over that that's over. I

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Speaker 2: don't think Kelsey goes crazy. I don't think he does either.

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Speaker 2: I mean Grays, I think they're really on a pitch,

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Speaker 2: especially on a short week, on a short week in

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Speaker 2: his age. Right at quarterback. Lamar is eight thousand, Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes is sixty five hundred, Stroud is six thousand, Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson is fifty five hundred, and we don't need to

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Speaker 2: talk about any of the back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think i'd pay it for Lamar. I kind of

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Speaker 2: like Stroud, Well, worry about their protector. Worry about the protection. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: would pay it for Lamar. He's probably gonna run. He

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Speaker 2: probably can't get your fifty yards on the ground. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, but then you might be sticking yourself a

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure it's not gonna be pretty. Yeah, Or

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Speaker 3: we're gonna take the cheapest defense, or you know yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry Is eighty two hundred, Joe Mixon seven, Isaiah

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Speaker 2: Hill is not going to play forty seven hundred, Keith

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Speaker 2: Mitchell forty four hundred, Pierce Is forty two hundred, Cordero

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Speaker 3: See the answer the questions are put out, But I

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Speaker 3: don't know the answer to p Ryan is four thousand.

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Speaker 3: When Hill got hurt, All Lee played a little more,

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Speaker 3: but he didn't take over the third down.

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Speaker 2: No, they had they left Henry out there in some

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Speaker 3: I just don't know. Was an act of the last game.

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Speaker 3: And that's what he might be, A sneaky, cheap one

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Speaker 3: because they don't want Henry out there in third down.

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Speaker 2: No, especially on a short week. But is that going

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Speaker 3: If we can find it. Cheapie somewhere along the line.

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Speaker 2: With Mitchell would be a complete guest because he has

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Speaker 2: Lee in that game last week, I don't know did

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Speaker 2: he touch the football? He had two carries one I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: one carrier for two yards and no targets.

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Speaker 3: I wish I knew more about A Lee as a

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Speaker 3: probably on teams maybe your third running back. So and

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Speaker 3: Mitchell's not going to play any teams point now, assuming

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Speaker 3: he's active, I think he'll be the third down back.

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Speaker 3: And now I know that's a risk, but he's got

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Speaker 3: to be cheap. I also kind of like Warren for

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Speaker 3: the bug.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we can average fifty four hundred the rest

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Speaker 2: of the way here because we went but we haven't paid.

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Speaker 2: We haven't gotten a defense. So that's going to kick

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Speaker 2: up a little bit here. You want to pick a

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Speaker 2: cheap let's just pick a defense now. Yeah, we'll put

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Speaker 2: detections in for now. That's fine, and we'll probably switch

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Speaker 2: off of that. Okay, is that the cheapest one. That's

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Speaker 2: the cheapest one, the Steelers eight hundred. That gets us up.

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Speaker 2: We can average fifth almost fifty nine hundred the rested away.

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Speaker 3: So I don't love having our quarterback going against our defense.

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Speaker 3: I don't either. Chances are they're both not going to hit.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, but we come back.

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Speaker 3: You don't look at receivers. Is there ones we love?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's see what that looks like. Nico Collins,

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Speaker 2: we can Niko has to be number one eighty three hundred.

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Speaker 2: We can't afford him. Okay, George Pickens.

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Speaker 3: Mars only got we paid up for, but I guess

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Speaker 3: he's a monster paid thousand. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Pickens is sixty six hundred, Zay Flowers sixty four hundred.

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Speaker 2: Both are questionable, but they're both going to play. Xavier

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Speaker 2: Worthy fifty six hundred, DeAndre Hopkins fifty one hundred. Bateman

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Speaker 3: Is he questionable? No, Okay, he's done. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown is forty five hundred, Calvin Austin forty two hundred,

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Speaker 3: I assume they think he's gonna be the two. I

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Speaker 3: guess Robert Woods is thirty. Woods must be right.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, Mike Williams thirty six hundred, Van Jefferson thirty

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Speaker 2: five hundred. Agalar thirty four hund. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: he played. He still hadn't been cleared from concussion protocol.

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Speaker 2: Xavier Hutchinson is thirty three hundred. Uh Juju is thirty

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Speaker 2: two hundred, Tyler Wallace thirty one hundred, Justin Watson three thousand.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind Austin for the buck. I don't mind

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Speaker 2: I mean there's some some guys in that in that range,

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Speaker 3: Five guy that absolutely stood out, like I don't have

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Speaker 3: it in front of me, I should I do? But

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Speaker 3: he he didn't play a ton, but they threw him the.

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Speaker 2: Ball five catches every time. It wasn't for big yards,

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Speaker 2: but five catches. They were trying to.

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Speaker 3: They were trying to get him incorporated for this stretch run. Now,

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Speaker 3: but that was only four days ago or whatever. But

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Speaker 3: I do think if that allows us.

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Speaker 2: To like pay up for a Pickens or something like that,

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Speaker 2: it could be. There's only three receivers that are over

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Speaker 2: six thousand.

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Speaker 3: So here, here's where the number on him, I mean,

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Speaker 3: because they're pretty stark. He only ran fourteen routes, but

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Speaker 3: they threw him the ball eight times on fourteen routes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like that was he was designed first target. And there's

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Speaker 3: a bigger picture in mine there. I mean, that's gear

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Speaker 3: him up for the playoffs. Yeah, maybe that's not to

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Speaker 3: help you beat the Steelers, but so I'm sure he's

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Speaker 3: gonna run more than fourteen routes in the second game.

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Speaker 2: All right, forty five hundred will plug him in. That

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Speaker 2: gets us up. We can average sixty one sixty the

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Speaker 2: he's going away. I don't think so either.

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Speaker 3: That would get us up to sixty six fifty. And

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Speaker 3: I say we're at least going under budget on some guys,

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Speaker 3: then do you want to go You didn't seem real

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Speaker 3: keen on my Mitchell idea. I'm just looking for cheapies.

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Speaker 2: We don't need necessarily a cheapie though. If we do that, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now the rest of the way, what's warring costs? Now?

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Speaker 2: You got me jumping back and forth. I know, but

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Speaker 2: Jalen Warren's fifty five hundred, Joe Mixons budget seventy seven hundred,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that Henry goes bonkers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they may try to mitigate that a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Can we afford an eco.

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Speaker 2: Uh eighty three hundred dollars that puts us back under

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Speaker 2: budget like in the middle neighborhood for yeah, Bill in guys, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like pickens and flowers I don't mind pickings either.

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Speaker 2: And flowers you said, yeah, Pickens is sixty six hundred,

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Speaker 2: flowers of sixty four hundred. Both are under budget.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I assume he'll get Stingley, Yeah, which I like

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Speaker 3: pickings more than flowers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's plug Pickens and we have two Steeler receivers.

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Speaker 3: That part I don't love.

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Speaker 2: But but I mean they're probably going to throw the

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Speaker 3: It'd be great shocking to me if they're not the

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Speaker 3: two out there and two receivers set like every time.

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Speaker 2: Now, Uh, looking at now, we can average almost sixty

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Speaker 2: seven hundred. So if we do, guys, spots do we

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Speaker 2: need again? We got two running backs in a flex.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's find a back we like.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Henry is eighty two hundred, Mixing is

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Speaker 2: seventy seven hundred, but Checko fifty seven hundred, Warren is

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Speaker 2: fifty five, Nausee Harris fifty four, Kareem Hunt fifty two.

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Speaker 3: I'm not real intrigued with Mixing or pit Checko. It

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Speaker 3: kind of leaves me with the Warren. Well, we got

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Speaker 3: to start two of these guys, I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Henry goes crazy running back. None of

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Speaker 2: At I don't think he does. I kind of lean

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Speaker 2: if I had to start one of the pay up backs,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Schultz isn't if you get anything out of

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Speaker 2: So if we do that, that leads us six hundred dollars,

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Speaker 3: So I don't think there's a big difference between Likely

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with it given, I mean, we a lot

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Speaker 3: What do we need out of him? Two or three catches? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think he is either. I think you know, he's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he gets five targets. We're you know,

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Speaker 3: Glad we got all the Texans d Yeah, and Lamar

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale, Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt. It's too early in the

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Speaker 2: morning for the NFL to have a It's power rankings

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Speaker 3: the year too, Yeah, Rock Bowers, Showers and neighbors. Okay,

438
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: at least that'd something for something, which crappy teams.

439
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: Know you were picking in the top ten last year. Yeah,

440
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 2: you should. You better have something good coming on.

441
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 3: You're really miserable if you don't have.

442
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: YEA. At thirty the three and twelve Jacksonville Jaguars and

443
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: their Rookie of the Year is an easy one as well.

444
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas, right, and all the skill guys.

445
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: Where would the Steelers be at right now if they

446
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 2: had drafted Brian Thomas's I'm not down on Troy Filatano.

447
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a really good foot player.

448
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 3: It's funny about that up because Tom and I had

449
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 3: like a ten minutes conversation about this, because I was

450
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 3: I remember being on the air. There was two things

451
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 3: I really remember about being on the air during last

452
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: year's draft that I said exact words. When in the

453
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 3: first round and the second round, when Foughtanu was there,

454
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's the pick. When Fraser was there, that's

455
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 3: the pick. But of course we had the conversation, well

456
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 3: who's next? Mine was Thomas and the Donnie Mitchell, you know,

457
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: and then you wouldn't have taken Wilson in the third round.

458
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 3: I mean, there's obviously a ripple effect here. But if

459
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: if by chance, Fraser would have went to pick before you,

460
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 3: or I fough Ton who went to pick before you,

461
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: I would have went with Thomas when you Mitchell would

462
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: have looked good. Yeah right, you know again, both those

463
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 3: guys have been very, very useful. I mean i'd probably

464
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 3: take Fraser of course over Mitchell times a thousand, but

465
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 3: for this year, you would have liked to have one

466
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 3: of those big downfield receivers. Yeah, you know, it's considered

467
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: your first round picks injured.

468
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 2: But at that point you still didn't know you were

469
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 2: going to get shut out. No, I'm trying to get it,

470
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 2: trying to acquire and a receiver.

471
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Speaker 3: There was a lot of the trade candidates at the

472
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: time too, right, right, And you wouldn't have drafted Roman.

473
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: Maybe you'd have drafted a lineman there, you know, of

474
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: course it's all different.

475
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: At twenty nine, the Tennessee Titans, their rookie of the

476
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: year is Jarvis Brownlee Junior.

477
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 3: He's actually been quite good. That's it's a nice find

478
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: in the mid rounds the Saints. You've been mentioned by

479
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: now by the way, But yeah, I mean maybe this

480
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 3: was mostly written and then before you could still adjust.

481
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 3: You can still cut and paste.

482
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because at twenty eight are the Cleveland Browns, and

483
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: here's where their trouble begins.

484
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 3: I say, who's there, guy, Mike.

485
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: Hall Junior who just started his first game. He started

486
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: his first game against the Bengals last week and they

487
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: lost twenty four to six. There is part of your

488
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: ongoing problem. Yeah, with the trade for Deshaun Watson, you

489
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: don't have any high draft picks, and so your rookies

490
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: of the year.

491
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: I say, last year's rookie year is probably bad too,

492
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: are dirt? Yeah right? I mean who are the building

493
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: blocks on cheap rookie contracts that are first round talents?

494
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to be down here for a long time.

495
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's why you know, Miles Garrett's asking,

496
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: you know, what's our what's our long term plan here? Oh?

497
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: He may not want to be there.

498
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: I think there's a couple teams like that. We threw

499
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 3: out Garrett Wilson yesterday, and there's a couple of these

500
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: teams the long term plan is not pretty the Saints.

501
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett's like, I'm not in this for a rebuild.

502
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: We know these are my prime years, right. I mean

503
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to be selfish about.

504
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: It, and they might be actually smart to move him.

505
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: I thought that. I mean, like, what would have the

506
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 3: Lions given them at the trade deadline? If I was Lions,

507
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: I'd be like, I'll open with two first round picks.

508
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 3: I know the first one is going to be late,

509
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: and I hope the second one's really late, and they'd

510
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: be the best team in the league. Yeah.

511
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 2: At twenty seven the New England Patriots.

512
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: May but again, he's pretty I mean.

513
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: These teams are better than what the Saints are putting

514
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: out there right now.

515
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a little kind of the Patriots too.

516
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: I mean they're not very good.

517
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: No, but the teams they were the most competitive. Yeah, yeah,

518
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: lightly Yeah at twenty six the Jets.

519
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: We're being really kind of the Saints. But anyway, a

520
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: Saints blind spot that we've already passed. But anyway, who's

521
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: the rookie of the year for the Saints?

522
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: Olufashanu?

523
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: Who's gonna throw out? Because I don't know if anyone

524
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: else that stood out. He wasn't an opening day starter.

525
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: No, and he's not been great.

526
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: No, they don't have a great one.

527
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: At twenty five, still not the Saints. The Chicago Bears.

528
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 3: It's a quarterback.

529
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Caleb Williams is the easy rookie of the year.

530
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: They'd be a ten point favorite in New Orleans.

531
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

532
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know about in New Orleans

533
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 3: because they play like garbage on the road. Oh yeah,

534
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: it's a good point about that. They haven't won a

535
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 3: road game in like three year, right, in Anchorage, Alaska.

536
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: They'll be a ten point favorite.

537
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: Right at twenty four, we're still no Saints. What is

538
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: going on here?

539
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: They're really bad.

540
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers would destroy the Saint kil kill them.

541
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: They're they're rookie of the year as Trayvon Wallace, the linebacker.

542
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: I hopeful look into him. I bet I couldn't come

543
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: up with one off the top of my head.

544
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on injured reserve for the rest of the

545
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: Sea him because.

546
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: Of a 'm sure and Coker. I don't think it's

547
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: the gat Yeah Wallace, I don't know what enough. I

548
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: don't know Wallas's resumes.

549
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: He's sixed on the team with sixty four tackles and

550
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: Coker hasn't done a ton, but no Wallace. Wallace broke

551
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: into the starting lineup in week two when Shack Thompson

552
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: got hurt and just recently got hurt. So yeah, he

553
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 2: started the eight out of thirteen games for a bad

554
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: defense on here. They are Saints that twenty three, the

555
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: five and ten Saints that if they played twenty five,

556
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: they could play one hundred more games against against anybody

557
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: right now, And I don't know that I would pick

558
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: them to win. They can play the Giants right now

559
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: with what they're putting on the field, and I would

560
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: pack I would pick the Giants.

561
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: Considering the quarterbacks and I mean pass catchers neighbors.

562
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: Would at least give them Tracy and they get.

563
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: Some better weapon. Yeah, no doubt. Fogg is probably the

564
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 3: he is it's Talisa Fogga. Yeah, he's been a solid

565
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 3: left tackle for him.

566
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: At twenty two the San Francisco forty nine ers.

567
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: It's about where they're at. I think that's fair. Poony

568
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: is the rookie the year.

569
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dominic Pooney is the rookie of the year. At

570
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: twenty one the Indianapolis Colts. There's still a chance to

571
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, have a good chance to

572
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

573
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: Would you have them ahead of Mike Miami or Cinci though,

574
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: I would not, No, but I let's see, Yeah, they're

575
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: better in Arizona. But let's not get too.

576
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: Far Yeah, let's not take get too far ahead.

577
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: But who's their rookie of the year way two?

578
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's I mean there's some obvious

579
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: ones here.

580
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. He's been good at.

581
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: ERA twenty is Arizona. As I mentioned, and I would

582
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: have the Colts ahead.

583
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: Arizona.

584
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah, just too up and down there.

585
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: They just lost it the Panthers.

586
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 3: Right, Harrison, Yeah, yeah, not quite as good as you wanted,

587
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: but it's yeah, I mean it's still their best rookie

588
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: at nineteen.

589
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: Who would you have here?

590
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: Boo?

591
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: This is this is being a little unkind to this team.

592
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 3: Dallas, Dallas by as, I got that, they've been pretty

593
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: good lately.

594
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: They're seven and eight now playing with out the.

595
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: Kind of make coaching changes. You get that coming back.

596
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 3: I mean you spent a lot of the year without

597
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: Parsons or dak Yeah, and DeMarcus Lawrence and Lawrence amongst others.

598
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, with no running game with most of

599
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: the season.

600
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: Most of the season, Zach Martin's kind of falling off.

601
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: You know, your stars have not been what you're paying for.

602
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: Rookie of the year Cooper Beab the center, Yeah, Okay,

603
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: he's been fine, He's fine. Yeah, I mean they found

604
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: a center in the third or fourth round.

605
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: Or whatever at eighteen. Tampa Bay, it's a rough one.

606
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: I still have Tampa Bay, but ahead of Atlanta, I

607
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: think they're a better team.

608
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they'll win the division, but

609
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: I think a better team. Yeah, which is what power

610
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: Ranks were about to me. Is it McMillan, Nope?

611
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: Is Bucky Irvy?

612
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: Oh it's got to be hurry. Yeah he's Yeah, he's

613
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: the best back. Yeah, he'd be my rookie back. Yeah.

614
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: At seventeen, the Miami Dolphins had of Tampa ahead of him.

615
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have the Colts ahead of him.

616
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: They're gonna lose. I think they lose in the last

617
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: two games. They could lose to Cleveland this week. I

618
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: think Jamis Winston's back in the starting lineup this because

619
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 2: of injury.

620
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the only reason they pulled him because

621
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: they didn't want to win right now they kind of

622
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: have to. Yeah. Yeah, I might take the rounds of

623
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: that game in Cleveland. Yeah. They got another weather game

624
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: in New England.

625
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: New York.

626
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Who's their rookie of the year.

627
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: This was a little tougher, but it's it's outside linebacker

628
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: Chop Robinson.

629
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: Oh. Yeah, he's been good. Second half of the season has

630
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: been quite good for him. Uh.

631
00:29:53,320 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: At sixteen, we got here, m Bengals, No, Seattle Bengals.

632
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I'm not sure that the defense can't be that

633
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: bad just because you beat Dorian Thompson, Robinson and the Browns.

634
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: As I say, I'm not all of a sudden like.

635
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not at all. Seattle would destroy I don't

636
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: know if that destroys a big.

637
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: Seattle would be better than the Bengal. Seattle would beat.

638
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: The Bengals right now. Their defense are doing enough in

639
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: their offense. Their offense isn't equal to what Cincinnati's is,

640
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: but it would tear up that Bengals defense.

641
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: They'd scored a lot of points.

642
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: They would score a lot of points. Is Murphy the

643
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: rookie Tyrese Knight?

644
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: They like him?

645
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a guy they got rid of all their

646
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: other linebackers. Where we got to get this guy in

647
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: the starting line up.

648
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they went and traded for Jones. They

649
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: just redid their their linebackers, right. Yeah.

650
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: At fifteen is Cincinnati?

651
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. Mems.

652
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: Mems is the rookie the year. Yeah, he's been fine,

653
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: But that's too high in the Bengals. I agree, that's

654
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: sure where I would rank Bengals Dolphins Colt. I think

655
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 2: the Dolphins are better than the Bengals right now too.

656
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: I think their defense, the.

657
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: Defense is notice will be better. Yeah, probably the Colt

658
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: start of the three. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Those

659
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: fringe JFC teams.

660
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. At fourteen, the Atlanta Falcons, I

661
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: am not ready to say that just because you beat

662
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: the Giants, you're back.

663
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have him that far ahead of Tampa. I

664
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: would have Tampa ahead of them. Yeah, but that's a

665
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: pretty big gap. It's like four or five spots. Yeah,

666
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: you can't give it the Pinnix after one game.

667
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: That's who their pick was, Michael Fennix. Come come on,

668
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: sure who I would pick now? I'm thinking out about it.

669
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: But Ruk Hero played, He's only played in six games.

670
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: H third round pick Braylan Trice towards a cl in

671
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: the preseason. Linebacker j T bertrand running back Jase McCloughan

672
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: and wide receiver Casey Washington have all been injured as well,

673
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: So maybe that.

674
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: Is it wasn't there a year like the Steelers gave

675
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: it to like Patrick Bailey or.

676
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 2: Patrick Bailey won at one years especially, but there has

677
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: to be a special They didn't play rookies at all

678
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: at that time Harry Knew someone the original Joe Green

679
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: Rookie Great Performance Award.

680
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: There has to be a core special team or a

681
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: gunner or somebody.

682
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: Somebody who's actually played more snaps than Michael Pennix.

683
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: All right, maybe by the end of the year, if

684
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: he takes you the playoffs, I could give it to

685
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: him because the rest of the class is so bad.

686
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: That's a really terrible class. You you got start a quarterback.

687
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: The I mean, you still know. Thirteen the Denver Broncos,

688
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: Fine and bow Knicks is the obvious. Sure, that's not

689
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: even a question. Right, Twelve you're.

690
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: The Chargers over the over the Broncos. You have to

691
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: they beat him twice, Yes, yeah, they beat him twice

692
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: head to head. Yeah, it's twelve. Is the Rams, okay,

693
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: but have to be verse.

694
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: Jared Versus is their rookie of the year.

695
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: I did the Rams of the Chargers.

696
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: Well, the Chargers are next close. McConkie is the rookie

697
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: of the year the Chargers. Yeah, I mean that Joel

698
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: would have been a good candidate. The teams, but McConkie's

699
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: been the guy about what kind of thought he was.

700
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: He leads his charges right now with sixty nine receptions, uh,

701
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: ninety four targets and nine hundred and sixty receiving years.

702
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: I think I went on record in the preseason when

703
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: when he got drafted by them, saying he would catch

704
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: ninety balls or something like that. This year, I thought

705
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: he'd have more targets. Ninety four is a good numbers.

706
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: He missed a little bit of time. Yeah, No, he's

707
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: been great.

708
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that was a perfect fit for that offense.

709
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: Who's the linebacker they drafted? That's still what's that three? Uh?

710
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry. Uh.

711
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: They drafted the kid out of Michigan, but he hasn't

712
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: been great. The best linebacker I think is from last year. Yeah, okay,

713
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: that's what I was trying to think.

714
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: Well, he's not a rookie now.

715
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: Their corners have been contributors as rookie. Yeah, still is

716
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: the corner Yeah, not about rookie class, no at all.

717
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: A good building block.

718
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: Ten is the Houston ten. I might have the Chargers

719
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: ahead and ahead of the Texans right now.

720
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: Like if the Steelers lose out and go to Houston,

721
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: I'm picking the Steelers. Yeah. I mean they don't protect

722
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: at all. Who's their Rookie of the Year. Okay, they

723
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: never first round pick. Yeah, he's been side note, I

724
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: didn't realize this, but every team has their first round

725
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: pick this year. Wow, all thirty two have their originals.

726
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: Interesting.

727
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that never happens at this stage.

728
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: Never never, never. That won't end up out, No, of

729
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: course not. But right uh At nine the Washington Commanders

730
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: also an obvious rookie.

731
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: Obviously he's gonna win the award. Yeah, I'm fine with

732
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: them that being that high though. Yeah, I thought they

733
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: were going to fall off about a month ago. But

734
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: Ray Reverend and the Steelers are beating them and they

735
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: Daniels had the ribs. I'm like, as this is kind

736
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: of the beginning of the end.

737
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: But no, they really should have lost their game to

738
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 2: the Eagles on Sunday.

739
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be excited to bet against them in the

740
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 3: first round the playoffsn't get me wrong, But.

741
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: Very very fortunate that you know, there were some injuries there.

742
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: At eight, the Pittsburgh Steelers.

743
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: That's fair. I mean, you've lost to and row to

744
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: good teams. Rookie the Year is frasier.

745
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there was some talking.

746
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 3: Wilson.

747
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: It's either Wilson or McCormick.

748
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: Cormicks played more snaps.

749
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: McCormick's played more. He's a starter, Wilson's. I get Wilson's

750
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: been an impactful player times.

751
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: But he's probably your third snap.

752
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: I think he'll play a key role. I think actually

753
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: all three of those rookies will play a key role

754
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: on Wednesday against the.

755
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Uh you know I rank them that way too. Yeah, okay,

756
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: be nice to see what Roman or the first round

757
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: pick could have done.

758
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's the way it goes with injuries. We've

759
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: seen some of these other teams that you know, dealing

760
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: with you. If your first round pick it's hurt and

761
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: you still have guys, you had a pretty good, pretty

762
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: good draft, especially if you're up on this end of

763
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: the spectrum as opposed to the bottom.

764
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Fraser is a slam dunk that for most

765
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 3: of these teams would have been the pick. But Wilson

766
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 3: or McCormick isn't worse than a lot of the names

767
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: we mentioned as their second and third. You know, Cooper

768
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: bb or something. He's not much different than POONI or

769
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: you know those guys. Yeah, I'd take him over Bby

770
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 3: at seven is green Bay. Yeah, they were pretty dominant

771
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: last night. I would have them out of the Steelers

772
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 3: right now. Oh, it's got to be the linebacker Ed Cooper. Yeah,

773
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 3: he usually come on strong. I didn't think he'd be

774
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 3: as impactful as a rookie, but he makes a lot

775
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: of big plays. Yeah, six is the Ravens, Okay, I

776
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: got no problem with that.

777
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: Who do you think they're Rookie of the year, Jona Blank,

778
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: it's Roger Rosengarten.

779
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: I was about to say it'd probably be Wiggins, but

780
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: neither was blowing my doors off.

781
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: No, I think they're a fine Yeah they're not, but

782
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: they both are. As we said when when the Ravens

783
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: drafted those two guys. They just don't profile as Ravens

784
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: as much as the finesse players as much.

785
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: I like Jay Flowers too. They're not big, physical guys,

786
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: you know, like for their respective positions. Several of their

787
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: really early picks lately have not been AFC North guys. Yeah,

788
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: I mean they're not bruisers.

789
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, who would you have a five?

790
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: Then? All right, who's left on the border? We got

791
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: the Bills, Eagles, Lions, Vikings and Chiefs. Yeah they're probably not,

792
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: but out of Kansas City fifth. I would too.

793
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have Minnesota. They were for Minnesota. I'm really

794
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: coming around on them. I think they I don't think

795
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: it wins the Super Bowl. I think they're pretty good.

796
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: Darnold would have to go on an incredible heater. Yeah,

797
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: and he might be on the heater right now, be like.

798
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: The Flacco postseason.

799
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be even more surprising though than Fla

800
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: because Flacco had shown a level of consistency.

801
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 3: He was the tenth best quarterback in the league. I

802
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: mean he was. Donald has never been there. Who's the

803
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: rookie kicker will write your move? I would not that one.

804
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 3: The first they trade up for McCarthy and it's obviously

805
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 3: not him.

806
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, if you're them, do you consider signing Donald

807
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: after the season and maybe making and making McCarthy. Hey, yeah,

808
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: you all loved him in last year's draft. Looking at

809
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: this year's quarterback group, maybe somebody wants to take a chance.

810
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you don't get a one for him, but

811
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: maybe you get a two and a conditional.

812
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, you don't get a one. I mean

813
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: a team like Tennessee or the Jets.

814
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: Or the somebody's gonna it would have to be somebody

815
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: that's gonna get shut out in the quarterback in the

816
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: top three ish, But.

817
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: You'd also have to have somebody wish organizations out.

818
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 2: You'd have to have somebody that love McCarthy so much

819
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: that they were willing to do that. I think you

820
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: could get a two and a conditional two. That could

821
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: be a one. Conditional stuff would make sense next year

822
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: if he becomes if he becomes your starter, Let's say

823
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 2: he starts twelve games next year, that two next year

824
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: turns into a one something like that.

825
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: Something like that would make sense. I would certainly be.

826
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: I'd have a hard time just letting Darnald walk and

827
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: get a third round compick for him.

828
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: And that's it because he's still young enough that and

829
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: your receivers are great. You know, it's proven you can

830
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: win thirteen and two. I mean, you really move on

831
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: from the quarterback that took you to thirteen and two

832
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: right and might get you the number one overall.

833
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: See it in the play I mean, like you can't

834
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: do it. You win a playoff game, I mean even

835
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: not if they lose out, it's still a successful year. Yeah,

836
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I think at a minimum, I franchise him

837
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: and I say I'll listen to offers for either one

838
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: of my quarterbacks. That's good. That's the way to approach

839
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: it as well.

840
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: And of course then if you franchise him, you're paying

841
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: Sam Donald forty plus million dollars one.

842
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 3: Year though, you know, I mean you tell Daniel Jones.

843
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what their cap situation is, but I

844
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: don't either. Yeah, I can't just let him walk for nothing.

845
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 3: I can't.

846
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: You just can't do it. It's too important a position.

847
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a really long because there's a lot

848
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: of different sides to it. This is a long conversation. Yeah,

849
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: more and more. I just think it's easier to make

850
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: that decision.

851
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you just can't move on from he's

852
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he could get forty five million dollars on

853
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: the open market.

854
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: Maybe more like if you're the Titans, what would you

855
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 3: pay him?

856
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 2: You know, he might be a mistake. It might be

857
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: a Scott Mitchell like mistake.

858
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt.

859
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: I mean cousins or Scott Mitchell's actually the perfect Oh

860
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: he didn't have the pedigree, yeah, Donald coming into it,

861
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 2: but he had that one year replacing you know, Dan

862
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: Marino and the Lion said, oh, hey, we got our

863
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: quarterback in the future and just opened up the coffers

864
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, yeah, not good at all.

865
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the rookie year is a kicker though.

866
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rookie of the Year is a kicker. He's

867
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: made nineteen to twenty two field goal atend.

868
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: So all other candidates.

869
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah at twelve, at four, I should say the Buffalo Bills,

870
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: I'm not ready.

871
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: I have the Chiefs lower than that.

872
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have the I mean they smashed, the Chiefs smashed.

873
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: They beat him by nine, but they right, but it

874
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: was they handled.

875
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: They beat him bad.

876
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill's rookie. Coleman Nope, Ray Davis. I think they

877
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: have equal cases. Yeah, he's been a Davis like a lot.

878
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: Davis hasn't missed any time. Yeah, Coleman has I think

879
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: that kind of tips it. He has three hundred and

880
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: sixty nine yards and.

881
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 3: Class.

882
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: No, not a great one at three.

883
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: Not the Chiefs, the Eagles, Oh, I think they'd be

884
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: my one. Eagles rookie has to be Mitchell. But Dejeans saying,

885
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: hey what about me?

886
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jeane's been good as well, like both of

887
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: those players in a draft a lot.

888
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good class. That's really solid, be my one.

889
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to bump them too greatly for

890
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: losing it on the list.

891
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: Touchdown with your backup quarterback, right right. I'm counting them

892
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: as if hurts as a starter for this exercise.

893
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: Uh two is Detroit?

894
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 3: Okay? I mean Kansas City is one loss. I understand

895
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: them being one, but they'd be five.

896
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're rookie.

897
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think.

898
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: Their rookie as Terry and Arnold who is he's been

899
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: real up and down. Oh my goodness.

900
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I can't come up with anybody else off

901
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: the top of my head, though, No, I can't either.

902
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: They drafted defense heavy, the defense all hurt, right yeah.

903
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: And for the Kansas City chief short number one, it's

904
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: savior worthy.

905
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: I think it has to be. I can't think of

906
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: a candidate that's even right there with them. Yeah.

907
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, But when you look at it that way, in

908
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: terms of the rookies of the year, I mean, the

909
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: Steelers draft class holds up pretty well, real.

910
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: Real well, especially without the first roun. I the only

911
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: one one that.

912
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: If Platano had played all season long, which was the

913
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: plan's probably he's probably a rookie the year.

914
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: How many of the thirty two didn't really have access

915
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: to their first round pick. It was like the Vikings Steelers.

916
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 3: There's not many you at least didn't consenter or your

917
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: first pick. Yeah, you know Lassiter wasn't you know, they

918
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: didn't have a first round or Cleeve Oleman.

919
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: Didn't have a first round or right, Mike Hall for Cleveland.

920
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: That's maybe the worst one, might be the worst one

921
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: that was on there. But the kicker at least does something.

922
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 3: At least you got a kicker.

923
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Call couldn't even get on the field for

924
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: a lot of those games. There was a question whether

925
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: he was going to be on the team after he

926
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: had his incident in the preseason.

927
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: I can't remember, but I think the Browns were the

928
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: last team to make their first pick. I think they

929
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: had those yeah, yeah, and it shows Yeah, that's what

930
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: happens when you've got to find a diamond the rough

931
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: in the fourth round or something that.

932
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: You wonder if because of what happened to the Browns

933
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: with losing all those picks, if it makes teams a

934
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: little more gunshoy to trade multiple first round draft picks

935
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: for a quarterback or anybody.

936
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean, there aren't many instances in the

937
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 3: last ten years Jamal Adams and Cooper and doesn't work

938
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: out real well, right, Malcomita won you know right? In general,

939
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: it's not good business.

940
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, But let's get to a break for Gold.

941
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: We gotta come back and pick the Steelers game. Seems

942
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 2: so early in the week, but all right, I'm ready.

943
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: I hope you have your mind wrapped around this and

944
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: a score picked out, but we will do that when

945
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: we return. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie.

946
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

947
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

948
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

949
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

950
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: Ho Ho ho. It is now time for Matt and

951
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: I to pick the results of the Steelers game against

952
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs at one o'clock Christmas Day, Akroschure Stadium.

953
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: Be there or be square. I think there'll be a

954
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: lot of people there.

955
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: I'm curious. I have no clue what it'd be like.

956
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: I mean, an easy tickets and expensive.

957
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: Oh it's been an expensive ticket. I mean, I'm sure

958
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: but you know, people are gonna like, question has been

959
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: a great stocking stuffer would be amazing. Hey, And by

960
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 2: the way, you're going to the Steeler.

961
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: Game, especially if you don't like your spouse or whatever

962
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: out of the house for Christmas. Be so much happier

963
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: if Matt's gone today, you know, right, That's probably the

964
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: case every day. I didn't know, i mean, just because

965
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: it's a weird day. Yeah, I'm sure there won't be

966
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: many Kansas City fans there, wouldn't think, I mean, would

967
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 3: you travel. I mean, if this was in Kansas City,

968
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 3: they Steeler fans would be there.

969
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: They're one of those teams now though, that have reached

970
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: a point where they're kind of like the Yankees or

971
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: the Patriots for a while, Like you get all these

972
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: bandwagon fans that jump on and.

973
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: Which makes sense. I mean people that are younger, you know,

974
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: that pick a team, you know, like Dallas in the seventies.

975
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: And so when I was a kill them in the seventies.

976
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I one of my heroes

977
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: just died over the weekend.

978
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: Ricky Henderson, I remember you were.

979
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: I was a huge I was a huge Oakland A's

980
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: fan when I was a kid growing up because of

981
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Ricky Henderson.

982
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 3: They were a fun team and that not because they had.

983
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: Won anything, but it was great when when they finally

984
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: did win something, you know.

985
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: And so I felt like I, you know before like

986
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: the Bash Brothers. Oh yeah, yeah, you were like late

987
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 3: seventies early.

988
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, when when Billy ball started they had they were a.

989
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: Flashy, fun team though. Oh yeah, absolutely Henders.

990
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: The same thing with you know, I was a Detroit

991
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: Pistons fan because I was an Isaiah Thomas fan.

992
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, as a college player, and I just when he

993
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 3: went to the NBA. Okay, that's my team.

994
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: So again when they won, that was like my late

995
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: teams were fantastic because the A's were winning championships and

996
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: the Pistons were winning championships, and I felt like I

997
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: had gotten in on the ground floor.

998
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: I was not a Bandwagon fan, didn't buy high, No,

999
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: I thought low. Yeah. Nice, So that was great. Yeah.

1000
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 3: I was Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh of course. Yeah.

1001
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: Well I picked the players and then followed the players.

1002
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

1003
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: But anyways, so Steelers and Chiefs, you pitched first last week,

1004
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: so I will give my pick in this game first.

1005
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: This week. You have to control Mahomes on third down. Oh,

1006
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 2: you have to win first and second down to get

1007
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: them into third and longs. If you look at it,

1008
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: he has eighty seven completions on third downs this season.

1009
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: Seventy three of them have gone for first down.

1010
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: Wow, that adds up man.

1011
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: Fourteen times he has thrown the ball on third downs

1012
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 2: and has not resulted in a first down. That's how

1013
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 2: you're over fifty percent. Oh yeah, third down question. It's

1014
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: not like they have a great running game.

1015
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: No.

1016
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: He has run the ball twenty three times on third

1017
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: down has resulted in twelve first downs. Yeah, you have

1018
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: to control Mahomes. Yeah, on third So what is that?

1019
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: That's eighty five conversions on one hundred and ten attempts

1020
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: from Mahomes on third downs.

1021
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: I'm sure some stats nerd can figure this out, But

1022
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: is that one of the best seasons has to be

1023
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: a third down quarterback has to be.

1024
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: Because his other numbers, his numbers on the other downs

1025
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: are just okay.

1026
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah right, they're like way below his average.

1027
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: He also has ten touchdown pass is on third down

1028
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: third downs, so his passer rating on third down is

1029
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: one oh nine point two. You have to get them

1030
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: behind the chains you have to, yeah, or just make

1031
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 2: plays on third or just make plays on third downs

1032
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: to get off field. The Steelers have been all season long,

1033
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: with the exception of the Eagles game, really good on

1034
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: third downs. Even last week against Baltimore. Baltimore was four

1035
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: of ten on third down.

1036
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, both of you.

1037
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: You'll take that if you hold it, if you hold

1038
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to forty percent on third downs, you'll take

1039
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: that all day long.

1040
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: Yep. No, I think that's a huge key, and I

1041
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: think your pass rush has a lot to do with it.

1042
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: Pass rush has to get.

1043
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 3: Your corners aren't going to be stellar.

1044
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: No, No, you have to get home in those situations.

1045
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: I think the Steelers, uh will kind of enjoy being

1046
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: back home again in front of their home crowd. I

1047
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: expect the crowd to be amped up for this game.

1048
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: It's a you know, I got the Steelers winning this one.

1049
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: I said, I said six weeks ago, I'm picking the

1050
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: Steelers in this game. I'm sticking with that. I think

1051
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: they win this twenty four to twenty.

1052
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 3: Wow, I've win twenty four to twenty three. Okay, Yeah,

1053
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 3: And I've been going back and forth. I think can'ta

1054
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: city is a better team. But I don't see three

1055
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 3: losses in a row, and I do think the home

1056
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: cooking thing is big, short work week for them. I

1057
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: don't like these road teams on Christmas, either one of them,

1058
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, I just think that's a

1059
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: tough predicament physically, mentally Chris Jones. I think Jones has

1060
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 3: a ton to do with it. Now, My Homes and

1061
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: Company could certainly win a one score game for the

1062
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 3: seventeenth time in a row, no doubt.

1063
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: Remember, I don't feel Chris Jones was holding out last year, Yeah,

1064
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: to start the season, and Detroit rolled in there and

1065
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 2: beat them in the opener, and they kept showing Chris

1066
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: Jones sitting on this, you know, up in the stands,

1067
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: and you could just see him counting the dollars as like.

1068
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: Oh, he's the second most important chief. Yeah, I got

1069
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: no doubt in my mind. I mean, they didn't have

1070
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: any hesitation. Should we keep Snead or Jones? Don't keep

1071
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: Jones like he's a difference maker. Do you think he

1072
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: won't play? I don't think he does, Okay, I mean

1073
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: we're recording this Tuesday morning, Christmas Eve mornings.

1074
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: They haven't in any declarations yet, but I would be

1075
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: highly shocked if he if he, I mean, if he

1076
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: in practice either day ten snaps, Yeah, you're just gonna

1077
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: tell him, Hey, Chris, now you're thirty one years old, right,

1078
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: we need you in the playoffs.

1079
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 3: We still got a chance to win without you.

1080
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: We don't want you to Yeah, we don't. We got

1081
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: a one game cush or two game cushion here. If

1082
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: we lose this game, it's not the end of the world.

1083
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: But if we lose you it is.

1084
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: Plus you could play in week eighteen and still get

1085
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: him a rest. On both sides of that we could game.

1086
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 3: I would not play him, I mean, but I don't

1087
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: know how they'll look at it. I don't have great

1088
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 3: reasons to pick the Steelers. I mean, so this one's

1089
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: more of a little bit more of a hunch than

1090
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: they got this matchup. In this matchup, but I do

1091
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 3: love the d line, but especially the edge matchup quite

1092
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: a bit. Homes of Time has a huge advantage. I

1093
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: think gets a huge advantage. I think that's as big

1094
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 3: as advantage on paper as there is in this game

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00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 3: from either side.

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00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: And the big thing that I was watching for from

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00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: Mahomes last week against the Texans. Not so much his

1098
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: running straightforward stuff, which he's obviously cape still capable of doing.

1099
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 2: But when you have that high ankle spring, how do

1100
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: you move in the pocket? How do you cut on

1101
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: something like that? And I didn't see that from him.

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00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 3: No, I mean he does accelerate well, but he wasn't

1103
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: great in terms.

1104
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, there was none of that, and the movement

1105
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 2: in the pocket from side to side just wasn't there.

1106
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he's feeling it to some degree. Again,

1107
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 3: I don't know how they're going to protect the edges.

1108
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's going to be a real

1109
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 3: real problem. And I think it's a proud football team

1110
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: and Tomlin at home and a standalone game. I know

1111
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 3: it's not a Monday nighter, but it's kind of fits

1112
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: the bill.

1113
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: Their home record on Thursday games, which is obviously a

1114
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: short week work week, much much better than it is

1115
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: on the road. It's night and day.

1116
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: Road is the issue on these short work weeks, and

1117
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 3: for most teams it is. It's that's not uncommon. Again,

1118
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 3: I don't have a ton of matchups that I love,

1119
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: but I'm kind of just trusting Cam and TJ and

1120
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 3: Russ and Tomlin. Not that the Chiefs don't have those

1121
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: kind of guys either. I mean they have winners and

1122
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 3: professionals and Hall of Famers and all that stuff too.

1123
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: I just don't love the emotional letdown playing away from

1124
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: home bodies soil. I think getting pickings back is huge

1125
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: as well, and no doubt, I also think the Steelers

1126
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 3: kind of need it more. You know, they're the wounded

1127
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 3: animal were a little bit right now, and usually they

1128
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 3: bounce back pretty strong in those situations. Like I don't

1129
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: think this is the beginning of the end of the

1130
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 3: Steelers season, you know, like they're just gonna wash right

1131
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: down the drain these last three games, including the playoffs.

1132
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: I don't see it going that way and be a

1133
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: nice Christmas present, Yeah, you.

1134
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: Know, and we'll be talking about a well, a meaningful

1135
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 2: game going into Week eighteen against the Bengals at home.

1136
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: While we're on that subject, let's make a pick in

1137
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: the Houston Baltimore game. What do you think happens there?

1138
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 3: I still think Baltimore wins, even though I don't love

1139
00:52:54,840 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 3: the road teams in this situation at all. Man, both

1140
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: these teams that Week thirteen buyes and on my other podcast.

1141
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: I said, over and over, I think these two teams

1142
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: figure it out with that late by. I think I'm

1143
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: half right, and it's the way team in this one.

1144
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: I thought that I thought that the Texans had figured

1145
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: some things out, and then Tank Dell got hurt. I

1146
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: think that was I think that was such an emotional

1147
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: situation for them. They were right there and they were

1148
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: Delle's touchdown put them ahead in that game, and then

1149
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: it just went and it's like, not another injury.

1150
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: He's like Stroud's best friend. Yeah, he had a brutal

1151
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 3: injury last year about this time, had the rehabl like crazy,

1152
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: get shot in the meantime, Yeah, and then finally is

1153
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: starting to look like himself. So how you've been lately?

1154
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year, I I broke your leg, I got shot.

1155
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: Now I tore off, like completely.

1156
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: Off, and didn't look like himself really until about this

1157
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: week or so.

1158
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a heck of a touchdown catch

1159
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: and they made a case. I couldn't believe he held

1160
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: onto that ball.

1161
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big blow to them for sure. Oh,

1162
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: without a doubt.

1163
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 2: That's why they they that's why they made the decision

1164
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 2: to acquire Deontay Johnson. They claimed Deontay Johnson.

1165
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: Because he had already lost Diggs. I mean, yeah, people

1166
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: forget about that. That was a long time. I mean, that's

1167
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 3: that's how desperation. I think the Ravens are just good

1168
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: enough to give it to Henry and win this game. Yeah,

1169
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: you know, and I think their defense figured some things out.

1170
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: I think Baltimore is quite good.

1171
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: I just worry on the Baltimore side of things about

1172
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: a letdown. Again. They're on a short work week, traveling.

1173
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: They just beat the Steelers for the first time since

1174
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: you know, christ was on the Cross, and you know,

1175
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 2: it just screams letdown. If you look at the records

1176
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 2: over the years post Steelers, post Steelers, their post Steelers

1177
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: record is under five hundred.

1178
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: It's much worse than the Steelers. Worse than the Steelers.

1179
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so I worry about that with them.

1180
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: But I just think that Houston's too beating up right

1181
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: now too.

1182
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: Some of the the real nerdy people that dig into

1183
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: the film couldn't speak worse about the Texans, and you know,

1184
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: they're their offensive coordinator was up for head coaching jobs

1185
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: in the hot candidate he should get fired. And I

1186
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 3: started this the other day too. I just happened to

1187
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: listen to a deep dive on the Texans, and it

1188
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: was very convincing. They have four offensive line coaches. There

1189
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: were these teams with like a mill, and they have

1190
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 3: four offensive line coaches assistant to the assistant O line coach.

1191
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: You know, like, what are you.

1192
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: Doing, George stan On one of them, right to the

1193
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: assistant general manager.

1194
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 3: And all their linemen are having their worst year in

1195
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 3: the league and can't block a soul and poor Stroud

1196
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 3: is losing confidence left and right. And they changed the

1197
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 3: uniforms to cotton. So I don't like where the Texans

1198
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: are at it.

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Speaker 2: I don't either. You know, if they had tank, if

1200
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: that tanked l injury wouldn't have happened. I may have

1201
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: picked them in. This game is like four days ago.

1202
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: It's almost like the Shazier injury to a degree. And

1203
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: you know, when you think about the reaction now.

1204
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 3: There linger through the building. The Shazier injury was way

1205
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: way worse. Of course, of course saying this apples to apples,

1206
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: but the mental I just remember, coming to work the

1207
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: next day is not fun or it. Yeah, it lingers

1208
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 3: for a year.

1209
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: And the reactions were similar, like it's tough to come

1210
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: back from that. It really is.

1211
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that's like one of the most

1212
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: popular dudes on the team has gone through a lot. Yeah,

1213
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: three days a long.

1214
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the dude got shot and came back

1215
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: from that to play this season and it's just such

1216
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: an emotional rolling right.

1217
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1218
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: So that's what I expect to happen. And so those

1219
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: Week eighteen games will be meaningful.

1220
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I like the Ravens that one. I

1221
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 3: don't know who's even favored or I think Baltimore is favored,

1222
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: probably by a few, like under a touchdown or under

1223
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 3: a field goal.

1224
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: Maybe it might be like around four or something like that.

1225
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I think Baltimore has figured some things out

1226
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: though they're not blowing coverages as much and stuff like

1227
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 3: that too. Yeah.

1228
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: So anyways, Merry Christmas, everyone, Merry Christmas, everyone, happy Honikah,

1229
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 2: all that good stuff. We hope everybody at Festivus, whatever

1230
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: you celebrate Kwanza. We're all inclusive here on the Drive.

1231
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 2: But we will be back on Thursday to breakdown what

1232
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: Matt and I.

1233
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: Both believe will be a Steelers victory. We'll see if

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00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: that is the case.

1235
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: Again tomorrow you can hear us both on the pregame

1236
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: show and I'll be on the pre pregame show, all

1237
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: that good stuff. But I hope you enjoy. You were

1238
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: a Christmas Eve and you're a Christmas Day. Enjoy watching

1239
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: the Steeler game and then of course the Ravens and

1240
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: Texans to follow that. Maybe mix in some family, absolutely

1241
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: try to do that, but we don't. Yeah more dope, Yeah,

1242
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: maybe you don't like your family. But for my partner

1243
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site running that

1244
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: Justin Miller hotline. We'd also like to thank Rob King

1245
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: for dropping by on Christmas Eve and for Tyler viitt

1246
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: Meyer making sure our video gets out there onto YouTube.

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00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lollie. We thank you for listening to

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Speaker 2: this edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.