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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco then takes out a two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: And they had to do this. They did not have

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Speaker 1: But if Joe Flacco plays and plays like he's been

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Speaker 1: something you can't teach, and when you're around in those situations,

430
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: they will carry with you whenever you go on your

431
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: journey and you leave that place the rest of your life.

432
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that being around those people once they've

433
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: made it and once they have the structure, the infrastructure,

434
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: the understanding of exactly what it takes in the peak

435
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: of their powers isn't valuable as well. But I don't

436
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: think what the Lions have done these last four years

437
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: everyone associated with that organization. They've really had the same

438
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: coaching staff for the most part for four straight years.

439
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's been very very lucky. Now he fired Anthony

440
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: Lynn and elevated Ben Johnson these last couple of years,

441
00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: but Ben was there originally as well. I don't think

442
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: it can be overstated how incredible it is what they're

443
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: doing and how difficult it is what they have accomplished.

444
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: Are they ever going to win a Super Bowl? I

445
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, they might not. It's very, very difficult.

446
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: There's only a select few quarterbacks who have won a

447
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl like the last six seven years. But to

448
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: turn this franchise into what was easily I would say

449
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: the most consistent joke just perpetually laughed at in Pro

450
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: football over my entire life. I'm forty years old now,

451
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: and turn them into an absolute power. The other thing

452
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 1: I was shocked is looking at Dan Campbell's record his

453
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: first year, he was three thirteen and one, and there's

454
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: that famous meme of him kind of crying when he

455
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: was interviewed about the effort and what those players on

456
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: the team meant to him, and he gets teary eyed

457
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: of just their effort even though they were ten games

458
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: under five hundred, to what he's turned them into of

459
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: being what I think most people think, if they can

460
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: just keep relative health, is going to be a one

461
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: hundred percent of team that can win the Super Bowl,

462
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: that could be the number one overall seed. And this

463
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: is not the forty nine ers, This is not the

464
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, this is not the McVeigh rams. This is

465
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: the Detroit freaking Lions. They hadn't been to the NFC

466
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: Championship game since nineteen ninety one. His record doubt the

467
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Lions is over five hundred. And I think they had

468
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: a clear vision, and I think you got a guy

469
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: who like that job is not something that could have

470
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: been turned around by someone who wasn't a crazy ass.

471
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: Like part of what we love about Dan Campbell, this

472
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: old school football guy, kind of the just kind of

473
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: an insane dude like you sometimes need that when you're

474
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: taking over a complete dumpster fire. That's what you have

475
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: to be. And him Brad Holmes, the general manager. What

476
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: they have done is honestly one of the most incredible

477
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: things we've ever seen in the NFL. It really is.

478
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: And if you're a Lions fan, I can't even imagine

479
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: what the feeling is like because for the most part,

480
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: the only game that ever mattered for your season was

481
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving morning game, and it felt like you typically

482
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: lost that and you drafted high all the time, and

483
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: now it feels like, should they just put all their

484
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: chips in the middle of the table to try to

485
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl? When did we ever talk like that?

486
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: When did that ever happen? And they didn't draft a

487
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: quarterback in the top ten. Some of their high end

488
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: players were honestly much maligned on draft Day. People thought

489
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: they were crazy for trading back from six to twelve

490
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: to get Jamiir Gibbs, who I don't know. I looked

491
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: up last week. He's running like ninety miles an hour

492
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: down the sideline for a touchdown. And they also got

493
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: an extra pick which led them to Sam Laporta. Where

494
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: Brian Branch in the second round, who looks like I

495
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: don't know Ed Reid Junior right now who I was

496
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: texting with the scout like how did this guy fall

497
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: this far in the draft? And they're like, well, he

498
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: was a little undersized, and two he basically just played

499
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: nickel corner at Alabama, so were there's some question marks

500
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: of like you're gonna draft just a nickel corner that high.

501
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: And it turns out he's transitioned to safety perfectly, and

502
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: obviously he can cover the slot and he has incredible

503
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: ball skills. I mean, he's a fantastic player. Kind of

504
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: feels like what Tyron Matthew was to when Bruce Arians

505
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: got the job in Arizona. The heartbeat of the defense

506
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: definitely the back seven now with Aiden Hutchinson. Now it's

507
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: not even really debatable. But they did it the right way.

508
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: They build up a team. They didn't do what everyone

509
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: thought they should do, take Jamar Chase. They took Pina

510
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: Sool and it worked. I guess Jamar Chase went ahead

511
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: of Pine School, but uh and listen, Jamar Chase has

512
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: been awesome for the Cincinnati Bengals as well. But I

513
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say it is like they would

514
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: have taken Pina School no matter what, because when you

515
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: watch their team, like that's kind of what they feel

516
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: like now. They're more explosive on offense than a lot

517
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: of these Jim Harbaugh level teams. But I feel like

518
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's a third Harball brother, and I think sometimes

519
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: really the only times you can rebuild a franchise like

520
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: this is to get a guy like that, because ninety

521
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: five percent of people, even guys that would be successful,

522
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: would get overwhelmed, would fail. And Dan Campbell hasn't only

523
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, not fail. He's been one of the biggest

524
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: success stories, I would say, so far through a short

525
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: career in my lifetime. When you factor in what he's

526
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: done with the Lions before we get into cough on campus,

527
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: it really is crazy. The Cowboys look headed for I

528
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: don't know, six seven wins season. I mean, they're in shambles.

529
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't have a huge problem with Digs, you know,

530
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: screaming at a some local reporter. It's like, why are reporters,

531
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: Why are people that talk about this stuff, myself included,

532
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: allowed to be critical and someone wants to get back

533
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: at you they just not allowed to say anything. So

534
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: I have no issue with that, even though when you

535
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: factor in it feels like the Cowboys were in shambles,

536
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: kind of a rough visual. I get it, but I don't.

537
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: I never have a problem with players being mad about

538
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: what's being said, you know, about them when these people

539
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: like they get criticized NonStop, like eventually, some people just

540
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: draw a line in the sand, especially they think you're wrong,

541
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: and that was his whole thing, which I don't really care.

542
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: But you know, the Eagles, if you would have told

543
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles at the beginning of the season that the

544
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys are not going to be affected for the playoffs,

545
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: I think they would have felt pretty good, like we

546
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: might cruise this division. And I'm going to keep hammering

547
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: this point home. The power of getting the coach and

548
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: quarterback right changes your franchise. It really does. Everyone talks

549
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: NonStop about how the Washington Commanders have gotten rid of

550
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: the stink of Daniel Snyder, and I can't imagine internally

551
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: in the building, for coaches, for the front office, for

552
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: every the non football people marketing the president. It's probably incredible.

553
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: But what really happened is they just hired the right guy,

554
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: and they drafted the right player. Like so many teams

555
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: fail because they get one of those two positions wrong

556
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: or both. If you have the wrong coach, you have

557
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: the wrong quarterback one or the other or both, you

558
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: have no shot, none, like the ultimately the Jets downfall. Yeah,

559
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: Rogers a shell of themself. But their coaching staff stinks.

560
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: If they had a good coaching staff, they would not

561
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: be two and six. That doesn't mean they would be

562
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: six and two, but they would not be two and six.

563
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: You have to have a good coaching staff and then

564
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: obviously you have to have good players. They go hand

565
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: in hand. Bill Walsh doesn't exist with Joe Montana, and

566
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: Joe Montana doesn't exist exists without Bill Walsh. Say the

567
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: same thing about Belichick and Brady. You need each other

568
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: and now you have a team if you're the Eagles,

569
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: Like I think the Eagles roster is better. I think

570
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: most people would agree. Hell, I think the Bears roster

571
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: is better than the Commanders. That's why the Bears are

572
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: taking so much shit. It's like, I think we got

573
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: better players. It's like, yeah, we don't have a better

574
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: coaching staff. I mean, what was the difference in that game. Seriously,

575
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: what was the difference in that game? One hundred percent

576
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: coaching the full back dive to the offensive lineman, which

577
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: was a fumble, the second to last play of the

578
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: game where they just gave up a free fifteen sixteen

579
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: yards which put them in Hail Mary territory. And then

580
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback who's just screwing around And I didn't

581
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: realize I watched it again yesterday how late he turned around.

582
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they weren't just running off the line, they

583
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: were halfway there going full speed. So he was really discombobulated.

584
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: And you have to put that on Eberflus, also on

585
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: the player. But like, that moment, to me, just doesn't

586
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: happen with the high end coach. So I understand where

587
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: Bears fans go. I'm out on this coaching staff, totally agree.

588
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: But if you're the Washington Commanders, you're like, I'm in

589
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: on my coaching staff. And listen the Eagles. They have

590
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: so much talent. That's Saquon Barkley move has been pretty incredible.

591
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: I mean, he looks fantastic and defensively he still got

592
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: some question marks. They've eaten up some bad offensive lines

593
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: in the last couple of games. Can they get pressure?

594
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: You know, the Commander's offensive line actually is not playing terribly.

595
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: But when they play better teams, can they get the

596
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: pressure that will have to keep an eye on that

597
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: Darius slay on an Island, how does that look? But offensively,

598
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: when aj and DeVante are healthy and they will get

599
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: Goddard back, and if Jordan Mylott is okay and they

600
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: get him back as well. Like their offense is just

601
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: so loaded that Kellen Moore, you can nitpick them all

602
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: you want, but it's pretty hard to screw that up.

603
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: And Jalen definitely has played with more confidence these last

604
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I think part of it he's more

605
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: willing to run. I mean, that was a big problem

606
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: with Jalen last year. It's like he wouldn't run, and

607
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: part of it he was banged up or whatever. Jalen's

608
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: star attribute is the dual threat is he can run

609
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: at any moment, and he throws a gorgeous deep ball,

610
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: which he's very confident throwing, especially when eleven's going down

611
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: the field even six as well, Like he's very confident

612
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: pushing the ball down the field to those two guys.

613
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: They should win the division. But you have a moment

614
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: like that against the Bears, you just go, I don't know,

615
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: this thing could get weird. And I think there's a

616
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: lot of pressure now on the Eagles, like it's Division

617
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: championship or bust, because they're gonna be a playoff team.

618
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: But if you were to somehow not win this division

619
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: and let a rookie quarterback and dan Quinn come right

620
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: in the division and win it, Like if I was

621
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: a betting man today, I would bet on the Eagles.

622
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: But when they play, if they both have the same record,

623
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: there's gonna be all the pressures on Philly, all the

624
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: pressures on Philly, and it's gonna be fun to watch. Okay,

625
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: let's go to college football, as we like to call it,

626
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: cough on campus. Who when the last time I've been

627
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: on a campus? I guess last year. I went to

628
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: the Arizona State President State game. Prest State killed them,

629
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: which probably wouldn't happen this year because Arizona State's a

630
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: lot better. But I, like many people, usually get up

631
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: pretty early on Saturday nights. The older you get, you

632
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: just you don't drink as much and you could wake

633
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: up at like six or seven am on Saturday and

634
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: Sunday pretty easily. And I get up and I walk

635
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: right out to the living room and I turn on

636
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: College Game Day and it was cool from Bloomington, Indiana Signetti,

637
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: And obviously Signetti has been all over social media. His

638
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: team's been awesome. I've watched them play. I didn't believe

639
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: in them going into that Nebraska game. That game, having

640
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: money on Nebraska made me a believer. Washing them again

641
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: against Washington with their backup quarterback kick ass and take names.

642
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Speaker 1: They are fantastic. It is regardless of the story, Like

643
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: they're a really good team. Like that's a real call

644
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: football team in terms of like if they make the playoffs,

645
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: it's not some fluke. That team has good play. They're

646
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: really good on defense. But I was texted with someone

647
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: the other day, like, and I saw a clip where

648
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: Signetti says, listen right now, I got everything I want here.

649
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: My wife likes it. They have supported the program, We've

650
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: had money for nil and obviously we've had success in this,

651
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: you know, the second best conference in the country, in

652
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. But what if people call them this offseason,

653
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: what if other bigger jobs, let's say Florida, they open

654
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: up and they call Kurt Signetti and most people go, well,

655
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: it's like you just you gotta take the job, because historically,

656
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: now with nil in the transfer portal, it is clearly

657
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: I would say level the playing field. Still have a

658
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: huge advantage at four or five of the big boys.

659
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: You're coaching A, you're coaching at Georgia, you're coaching LSU,

660
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: you're coaching at Texas or Texas, A and M. You're

661
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: gonna get better players, You're gonna have more money behind you.

662
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: Your recruiting bases are better. Not even debatable, but I

663
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: look today both of his coordinators, Mike Shanahan is his

664
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, no relation, who graduated college in twenty twelve,

665
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: played football pit so he's a younger guy. Their defensive coordinator,

666
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: Bryant Haynes is probably my age. We graduated college same

667
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: year two thousand and eight, so he's thirty nine, forty

668
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: years old. Are they gonna be able to keep their

669
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: two coordinators because historically no chance. And what do most

670
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: college coaches do when they need an OC or a DC.

671
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: They look around to the best teams in the country

672
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: that aren't Texas or Ohio State or Alabama that can

673
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: afford to keep their guys and they poach. So if

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Speaker 1: you're Kurt Signetti, like right now, you already realize my

675
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: two coordinators which came with me from James Madison, who

676
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: are too young trajectory pointing straight up at the sky

677
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: type guys. Can we pay them one point five two

678
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: million dollars? Because that's what happens sometimes. Two years ago,

679
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: Nick Sabin tried to hire Ryan Grubb away from Kaitlin

680
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: to Bor, which was ironic because then Debor end up

681
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: becoming Alabama Brock Grub. But then he lost them to

682
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. But the point was Alabama offered him more

683
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: money than they could pay it, but he chose to

684
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: stay partly because he was loyal, he thought they had

685
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: a good team, and ultimately made the right decision. But

686
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: typically in these situations you saw it last year with UCLA.

687
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: One of the reasons Chip Kelly just mailed it in

688
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: on that program is like Lincoln Riley and USC wanted

689
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator and they could just pay him more money,

690
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: and they did and he left. So if you're Signetti,

691
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: even if you really like it, you go to two factors. Here,

692
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: is it sustainable? What we're doing like every year, Like,

693
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: they're not gonna expect me to win ten eleven games

694
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: every year, but can I consistently win eight? Nine? Am

695
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: I going to be able to get the recruits here?

696
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: And only he truly knows that being in it every day.

697
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: But two, like, am I going to be able to

698
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: keep my coaches? Because watching Signetti talk, he's pretty confident.

699
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: He believes in his ability and his resume, as he

700
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: said google me is impressive. He wins, but it is

701
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: difficult if you just factor in over a five year

702
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: period to sustain what he's doing. Penn State's really good now,

703
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: Michigan is not going to be this shitty for long.

704
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: You add Oregon to the conference. Listen, the USC thing

705
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: has been a debacle, not going to be this bad.

706
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: Ohio State's always elite, and then just playing the random Wisconsin's, Iowa's,

707
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: Minnesota Like it's hard. And I just use Florida because

708
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: that's probably the easiest one to pinpoint of a team

709
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: that could open that. It's just a hard job to

710
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: turn down that. If they do call, how do you

711
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: not seriously consider it or just plug in any job

712
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: opening with that type cachet And I think he's gonna

713
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: have a very, very tough decision on his hands, because

714
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Speaker 1: if I wasn't an ad at one of these bigger

715
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: schools and we fire our coach, he has to be

716
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: one of my first calls. He really does. And if

717
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: you're him as these as it gets louder and louder

718
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: of people coming after his coordinators, because just pick the

719
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: top ten teams in the country LSU, Ohio State, Michigan, Texas,

720
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: tex A, and m Like, if they need a coordinator

721
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: on one of the sides of the ball, when you

722
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: look immediately at Indiana and go, hey, what do you

723
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: make it? Oh I make a million bucks? Hey, we'll

724
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: give you two. That's usually what happens. You know. Penn State.

725
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: Ohio State is in a massive game this weekend, and

726
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: I watched a decent amount of Penn State play Wisconsin

727
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: on Saturday night on NBC, which is kind of weird

728
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: some of these I get the TV contracts changed, Like,

729
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: it's weird to me that the SEC is no longer

730
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: on CBS and it's on ABC. I think if you're CBS,

731
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how you screwed that up. Obviously your

732
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Speaker 1: number one priority twenty four to seven three sixty five

733
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Speaker 1: is the NFL, but that I mean, the level of

734
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: television ratings that the SEC is doing this year has

735
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: to hurt them. But Penn State, Ohio State is I

736
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: mean gonna do ten million people are gonna watch this

737
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: game in Ohio State right now is in shambles that

738
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: they've lost several left tackles. They can't run the ball,

739
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: which I would say is not necessarily normal for a

740
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly team, and defensively, they just don't look as

741
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: powerful as they have obviously in the Urban Meyer era.

742
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: That has kind of been one of the downfalls of

743
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: Ryan Day is his defense just haven't been as good.

744
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: And I've always thought when you have offensive coaches, especially

745
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: offensive coaches who are inclined to throw the ball a lot,

746
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to develop toughness, and especially most offensive guys

747
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: former quarterbacks or guys that coach the quarterback aren't typically

748
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: innately tough, right. Jim Harbaugh, former quarterback, is an outlier.

749
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: If you asked a twenty five year old football fan

750
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Speaker 1: that had never watched Jim Harbaugh play, and you said,

751
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: this guy played in the NFL, what position do you

752
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: think Jim Harball played in the NFL. If you didn't

753
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: know anything about him, you just liked the NFL football.

754
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: You're too young to remember him playing, you don't remember

755
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: him as a player. I think most people would guess

756
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: like linebacker, like middle, linebacker, safety, tight end. You would

757
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: not guess quarterback. John Harbaugh, Dan Campbell, Mike Tomblin. These

758
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: guys are crazy and that's good. It's why their teams

759
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: are physical, because you can't fake that shit. Andy Reid

760
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: played offensive line. He's a tough guy, even though he

761
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: likes to throw the ball, but at his core, like

762
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: offensive line is his baby. We'll put him on the

763
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: map as a coach way back in the day. So

764
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: when you tell me that, like you know, Sark got

765
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: shoved around by Kirby, of course he did. Kirby's a

766
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: crazy solb safety Georgia, tough guy, Saban Mentor on defense,

767
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: like that's his baby. Toughness, craziness, physicality. You can't fake it,

768
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: some co coach is you know, it's harder for offensive

769
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: quarterback wide receiver type coaches to have that. It just is.

770
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Speaker 1: And like you watch Ohio State, no one disputes and

771
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: people you know, I bet there's people listening that know

772
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 1: their roster a lot better than me twenty million dollars roster.

773
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: They have NFL guys at every position, but like, are

774
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: you tough enough now? The knock with James Franklin has

775
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: always been like Ohio State. He can recruit as good

776
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: as anyone in the country, NFL players all over the place.

777
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: Their tight end this year is a monster. He has

778
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: seventeen catches against USC. Their front seven is awesome for

779
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: the first time in a long time. They hire the

780
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: Kansas o see, their offense is good. Then their quarterback

781
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: gets hurt last week, who's kind of a bizarre player.

782
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: Last year was very, very underwhelming. Then you watch them

783
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: against that USC game, which was kind of the crowning

784
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: achievement of his short career. And then he gets injured

785
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: in this game against Wisconsin, which was kind of getting

786
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: weird for Penn State, and they bring in the backup

787
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: who's kind of got a tough name to say, it's

788
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: Bo Pribula. I might be screwing that up comes in

789
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: it actually looks kind of good. Was like eleven to

790
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: thirteen through a touchdown, was running around better athlete than

791
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: Aler And I don't know, I mean, I think this

792
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: game is two similar coaches now Ohio State, and Ryan

793
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: Day has accomplished more than James Franklin. He's won bigger games. Hell,

794
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: he's owned James Franklin, so you have to give him

795
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: the coaching mismatch. But like watching these two teams this year,

796
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: like I don't know if I see that big of

797
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: a difference. If Riola in the Nebraska offense wasn't just

798
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: an embarrassment down the stretch, like that was a very,

799
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: very winnable game, it really was. And Riola is just

800
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: kind of underachieved. Might even be unfair because I don't

801
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: even know if he's achieved yet. But for all the

802
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: hype hasn't exactly been You know, I don't know Tua

803
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in college, and I think there's a lot

804
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: of pressure whoever went. If Ohio State loses this game

805
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: and you already got two losses, you talk about the

806
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: pressure mounting up on Ryan Day, it would get extreme

807
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: because then you would look around the landscape and be like,

808
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: well that Oregon is a conference loss. This is a

809
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: team that's not even gonna be playing in the Big

810
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: Ten championship. And Penn State's the answer, like, are you

811
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: ever gonna win one of these big games? Are you

812
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: ever gonna do it? When you're the underdog playing Michigan,

813
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: playing Oregon, playing Ohio State, Like James, can you do it?

814
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't bet on it.

815
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: I think this game's tough game to bet. Probably a

816
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: stay away from me, but must watch morning Saturday and

817
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: last but not least, you know, it's funny you look

818
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: back at that Oregon Boise game, which I felt like

819
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: went till midnight early in the season and I watched.

820
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: I remember, like, why am I staying up so late?

821
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Because I thought Oregon might lose to Boise And it

822
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: took two special teams, a kickoff return and a power

823
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: return for them ultimately to win the game. But I

824
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: think that game is aids pretty well because Boise more

825
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: than likely is going to be in the playoffs. They

826
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: have what most people consider the best player in college football,

827
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: or right up there with Travis Henry in uh or

828
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. Travis Henry was Cincinnati Bengal wide receiver. So

829
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: they beat Boise, they beat Ohio State, which is the

830
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: best win of the season, I think, and then they

831
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: house Illinois last week. Who's good. Oregon's kind of got

832
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: their swag back, and unlike I would say Ohio State,

833
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: I do believe in their defense, like because their coach

834
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: is a tough guy and he's a defensive coach. So

835
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: if their offense plays well, which was the knock on

836
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: them early in the season, the offensive line was not

837
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: playing well and Dylan Gabriel is really settled into this offense,

838
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: they could win the Natty Man. And we thought that

839
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: when the season began. Then like three or four weeks three,

840
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: we're like, what is going on with the Oregon They

841
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: looked terrible and now you kind of get that monkey

842
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: off your back against Ohio State, just in the sense

843
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: of like, hey, guys, we're good, we just won a

844
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: huge game. We're legit, and that boys a game looked

845
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: better and better each week, and then you play Illinois

846
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: and you just kick their ass. Props to Dan Lanning

847
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: because it was getting weird early. He kept, you know,

848
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: the tires on the truck, kept them, you know, in

849
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: the lane, because they could have easily fallen into a ditch,

850
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: lost a game that they should not have lost. And

851
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: now they've won some games. They definitely that Ohio State game,

852
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: you could argue they shouldn't even have won, and the

853
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: way they looked against Illinois, I mean that that was

854
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Speaker 1: they should lacked them. That was a beatdown. So if

855
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Speaker 1: I had to pick right now, I would probably pick

856
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: Oregon to win the National Championship. Okay, let's do a

857
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: little Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire

858
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: in those dms, get your questions answered here on the

859
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: podcast at John Middlecoff Instagram firen start with Matthew, big

860
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: Packer fan. The Jets have now lost five straight games,

861
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: two with both Aaron and Davante, and a six is

862
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: looking likely against the Texans in a short week. After

863
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: seeing how both situations have gone since Rogers and Adams

864
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: requested to be traded from Green Bay, it makes me

865
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: wonder if Aaron and Davante were drafted to a below

866
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: average franchise like the Jets, if they both were playing

867
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: together in their prime, could they change franchises losing culture

868
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: into a winning one. You have said in the past,

869
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: Green Bay is one of the best teams to be

870
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: drafted by for a playing career, and so my question is,

871
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: do you think that both players were drafted by the

872
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: Jets and unlike now played together at the peak of

873
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: their powers for many years. Do you think it could

874
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: turns the Jets franchise around. A lot of people's success

875
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: is where they go when they're young, right, because it

876
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: sets you on a path professionally. So when you get

877
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: into business when you're young, with the right people, it

878
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: can be like a trampoline for your career. Now, if

879
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: you get with the wrong people, it doesn't mean your

880
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: career screwed. And for most of us not In football,

881
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: we have decades of time, but a player's career is

882
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: very short lived. And we have seen a ton of

883
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: wide receivers for eats go to places and suck because

884
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: if you go to a place, if you're Devanta Adams

885
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: that doesn't have a quarterback, you were not viewed the

886
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: same as when you're playing with a top player of

887
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: all time, an MVP and putting up huge numbers in

888
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: big games. I mean, if you look at Davante's two

889
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: years with the Raiders, he had one hundred catches in

890
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: bost seasons, but he was not viewed the same. Right now, Davante,

891
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: if you remember, struggled early. He's even said it. He

892
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: did not play well. He was overwhelmed, He had the drops,

893
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: he had some injuries. Aaron didn't even start for the

894
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: first what three years of his career, so you could

895
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: argue both of them were not ready to go. The

896
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: difference is the Packers were good and they could handle

897
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: slow playing DeVante Adams. They had other weapons on the team,

898
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: and they had Aaron. If Aaron was thrust into action

899
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: right out of cow, who knows how it goes, because

900
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: I think the one thing you'd say about the two

901
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that went in this draft, Alex obviously is not

902
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: as talented as Aaron, but I don't know if Aaron

903
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: could have overcame what Alex dealt with in San Francisco. Like,

904
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: the one thing we know about Alex Smith, his metal

905
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: toughness is as good as anyone over the last twenty

906
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: five years at that position. Now, he's not as talented

907
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: as all these other guys, but from a toughness standpoint,

908
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: it's elite physically and mentally. Like who knows now, Aaron

909
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: was a way different person back then, but I think

910
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: a lot of players we see it going on all

911
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: over the league now with quarterbacks, they'd have to go

912
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: somewhere else, like Baker Mayfield's a really good player. He's

913
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: on his what fourth team? Sam Darnold's gonna have a

914
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: career year with his fourth team, Right Jets, Carolina, San Francisco, Minnesota.

915
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: We see it with wide receivers all the time. I mean, shit,

916
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: Amari's been good. How many teams he been on. I

917
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: think it's very very difficult, regardless who you are, if

918
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: you are not a plug and play ass kicker, to

919
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: go to a place that's a disaster and have success.

920
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: I think it's very difficult. Avid listener from Tampa, so

921
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: that means like a couple pods a week. I hear

922
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: a lot of Florida State stuff, but my heart lies

923
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve and now in the Big twelve

924
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: from my Arizona State sun Devils. Florida State is a

925
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: dumpster fire. They were essentially one quarterback away last season

926
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: and now sit at one and seven with recruits de committing.

927
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: Damn didn't see that DJ transferred and destroyed his draft

928
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: stock and set the program back several seasons. I'm sure

929
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: both sides have remorse. How did FSU get this so

930
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: wrong with DJ? I think it points back to conferenceory

931
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: alignment and NIL exposing these frauds a lot earlier in

932
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: the process and should save NFL teams in the long run.

933
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean you guys that have been

934
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: listening to me for a while. Though I had their

935
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: general manager on he was high on the team. He was,

936
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: I mean, they were high on dj which I don't

937
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: agree with. But it's pretty crazy that just because your

938
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: quarterback play is bad that your team is this bad.

939
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: They lost to Duke for the first time ever. Think

940
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: about that. They've been in the conference with Duke now

941
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: a while. And on was that Friday night or Saturday?

942
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: I think it was Saturday. I mean, that was just

943
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't follow it closely enough. In

944
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: terms of player acquisition, they obviously lost a lot. Jared

945
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: Verse is an elite player right in college and definitely

946
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: in the pros. He's defensive Rookie of the Year level guy.

947
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: Keon Coleman starts for one of the best team in

948
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: the league. Well those are their two best players last year.

949
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: Gone Fisk, the de tackle drafted by the Rams second round.

950
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: Rinardo Green Corner starts plays a lot for the Niners.

951
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: Doesn't technically start, but depending on injuries, plays a lot

952
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: that's just a lot of talent. Now there's no excuse

953
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: to lose that and be one and seven. I don't know,

954
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't really have I don't have a good answer

955
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: beside they suck like your takes on football. As a

956
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: lifetime Jacksman been a tough life. I can't accurately express

957
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: the frustrations of going through each season as the laughingstock

958
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: of the league. Aside from the Browns in Cowboys. If

959
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: you were running the organization, what would you do this

960
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: offseason based on what you've seen this far? From Lawrence

961
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: and Peterson Love from Florida, Well, Doug's gonna get fired

962
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: and Trent Balky should get fired. So if I'm gonna

963
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: fire Doug, Trent gotta go. Trent doesn't get to hire

964
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: his tenth head coach in his career. And then I

965
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: start from scratch, and then we determine this are we

966
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: gonna try to hire a GM first and then have

967
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: that guy hire the coach, or just hire the best

968
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: coach we can and then figure it out from there,

969
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: or just going open minded and do whatever we're we

970
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: feel drawn two. Right, if we interview this guy, we're

971
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: blown away, like, Okay, give him the keys. To me,

972
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: what makes the most sense if he's interested would to

973
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: be trying to hire Bill Belichick. That's what I would do.

974
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: I would just hire Bill Belichick because one, no one

975
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: could fault you for hiring Bill Belichick. To me, this year,

976
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: more than any year, approved how much this guy loves football.

977
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: He's got his offensive coordinator available, bad head coach, but

978
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels is a good offensive coordinator. I would imagine

979
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: because he's doing all this stuff, Patricia would come with

980
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: him as well. But like Bill had a lot of

981
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: success when he had Josh McDaniels. When Josh McDaniels left,

982
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: everything fell apart, like they made the playoffs with Mac Jones,

983
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: So I know we'll be good on defense because that's

984
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: Bill's baby. And then see if Josh can kind of

985
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: resurrect Trevor. So that to me would make the most sense.

986
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: And if Bill wasn't interested, Vrabel, who could come compete

987
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: in the division. He knows really well, similar to Bill,

988
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: very tough minded, would cut out just kind of the

989
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: crap that has flown on here for so long. The

990
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: question with Vrabel is you know who's his offensive coordinator?

991
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: Like when I hire Verbel. I feel very good about leadership, discipline, toughness, defense.

992
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: I do like they were good when they had Arthur

993
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: Smith as their offensive coordinator, and then Arthur Smith became

994
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons and it wasn't

995
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: quite the same. But you would say like Rabel has

996
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: been on the right. Guys like Arthur Smith is a

997
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: very good offensive coordinator. He was the one that promoted

998
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: him in that position, and before that, he was the

999
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: guy that hired Laflour question, will you please inform some

1000
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: of my fellow Packer fans how Jordan Love is miles

1001
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: better than Malik Willis. I know Willis has been amazing

1002
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: as a backup this season, but he hasn't exactly played

1003
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: top tier teams. He played the Colts, the Titans, and

1004
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: then a little bit of the Jacks. Packer fans calling

1005
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: for Willis over Love is ridiculous. I think I've been

1006
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: battling with sickness. It was like coming on and I

1007
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: fought it off. It was really kind of coming Sunday,

1008
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: I was I felt like, am I getting sick right now?

1009
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: It's like am I getting the flu or something coming on?

1010
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: And then Monday, yesterday I felt it a little bit. Today,

1011
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm feeling better, but I still feel a little like

1012
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: head congestion. So I'm battling here. If you hear me

1013
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: drinking water swallowing, Is this really a conversation that's happening.

1014
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: Is this an honest conversation that's happening with a human being? Okay,

1015
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, and I've tried to spend a

1016
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: little less time like on Twitter, so Instagram, it's not

1017
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: as much of the arguing back and forth as just posts,

1018
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: so you don't see as many of like people going

1019
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: back and forth. But I have not seen this. If

1020
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: I knew this person, I might stop talking to him.

1021
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: And Malik has been an incredible story. I mean, it's

1022
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a moment for the floor

1023
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: of the packers to be to win games with this guy.

1024
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: But what are we What are we talking about over

1025
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: Jordan Love? Are we being serious here? If your friends

1026
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: are being serious, tell him just I can't talk to

1027
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: you until you never bring that up again. We'll see

1028
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: if you know as of recording this will the follow

1029
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: Jordan Love's status. But the only way I guess you

1030
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: could argue about it with your friends all you want.

1031
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: If Jordan Love is ever healthy, he will be the

1032
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: starter because he is their best quarterback by a wide margin.

1033
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Love's good. If I was a Packer fan, I

1034
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: would be so excited if Jordan Love as my quarterback.

1035
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: After assessing Caleb through seven games, it looks like he's

1036
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: almost relearning the position. He looks very hesitant to make

1037
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: decisions in fear of making a mistake. Whenever he bombs it.

1038
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: It looks predetermined. I feel like he is trying to

1039
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: learn how to sit in the pocket, go through progressions.

1040
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't help to play for my Bears. Shane Waldron

1041
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: is an idiot, but Caleb is flat out missing guys

1042
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: that are wide open. What do you think? I was

1043
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: talking to my guy, the chiropractor at the gym, who's

1044
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: a diehard Bears man. Saw his office store was open,

1045
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: so I kind of went over there and he was hot.

1046
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: This was Monday, after they had just lost. He was

1047
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: not happy, and he brought up a good point. He said,

1048
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: why are they running go routes to Keenan Allen. Keenan

1049
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: Allen probably runs a five flat forty. In what world

1050
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: would you run a go route in a big game

1051
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: in the second half to Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen runs slants,

1052
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: he runs outs, He runs over the middle of the

1053
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: field in his own coverage. He is a possession wide receiver.

1054
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: If you are going to run a go route, you

1055
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: would probably do it with Rome or DJ Moore. So

1056
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: to me, sometimes when I watch the Bears, like part

1057
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: of having DJ Moore. For example, one thing when Perti's off,

1058
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: what Kyle will do is throw a couple of tunnel screens,

1059
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: bubble screens, or I mean, depending on how you want

1060
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: to describe it or what the exact play is. To

1061
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, to just settle everyone down because it's twofold.

1062
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Speaker 1: It's an easy completion first quarterback and Deebo, I mean,

1063
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: if you make a couple of blocks, can take it

1064
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: fifty yards. But worst case scenario, you're gonna game seven

1065
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: eight yards, and he dropped one in the Sunday night game,

1066
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: they probably should have gone fifty to the house. But

1067
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: just settles everything down. You watch the Bears, it feels

1068
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: like they run so many deep breaking routes. Why not

1069
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: just run some short intermediate stuff because clearly, like you said,

1070
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: his deep ball isn't bad. I mean it's he missed

1071
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: by a lot a lot. I mean sometimes they just

1072
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: when he leaves his hands, you're like, this is gonna

1073
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: be cool, and then it's not even remotely close to

1074
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: the dB or the wide receiver. I don't understand why

1075
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,479
Speaker 1: they don't run more quick game, like I would eat

1076
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: the shit out of defenses with quick game with Keenan

1077
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: Allen and I don't have their statistics in front of me,

1078
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: but how many quick screens or just getting the ball

1079
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage DJ more of they run?

1080
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: He is very similar to Debo. Get the ball in

1081
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: his hands and let him cook and it makes it

1082
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: easy on the quarterback, Like why are we dropping back

1083
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: like you said and making Caleb act like Peyton Manning,

1084
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: which is not really how he played in college and

1085
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: he's clearly not that comfortable doing it right now. He's

1086
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: a rookie. You have these pieces, I don't know would

1087
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: Comet have against Washington one target? Why aren't you eating

1088
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: that guy alive right over the middle of the field.

1089
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: What has been Travis Kelsey's go to route? Would you

1090
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: say over the course of his career, because for me,

1091
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: it would be something from the slot some sort of

1092
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: curl or crossing route where he stops in the middle

1093
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: of the field and he's a great zone at deciphering

1094
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: the opening in his own coverage. But it creates a

1095
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: guy sixty three sixty four. I think Comet's like six '

1096
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: five standing in the middle of the field, which is

1097
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: even if you're five or six steps back from where

1098
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: the ball is snapped. It's what at most a twelve

1099
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: yard throw. It's a high percentage throw to a massive

1100
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: target who's open. I feel like the Bears are like

1101
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: bombs away all the time. I clearly, Shane Waldron, they're

1102
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: the rhythm. As a play caller, I do think you

1103
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: are taught offense right when you show up to the NFL.

1104
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: If you're a young coach, depending on who you work for,

1105
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: that's where you build your offensive knowledge. So if I

1106
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: work for a Shanahan guy, or if I work for

1107
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels and Belichick, or I work for you know,

1108
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, like, that's where I learn or I become

1109
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: a master of offense. But once I become the play caller,

1110
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: I do believe some of that is innate. You either

1111
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: have a feel for it or you don't because some

1112
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: guys are. It doesn't mean you're not gonna you're gonna

1113
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 1: call bad plays, you're gonna screw up. But I'm saying

1114
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: when you watch certain play callers, you're like, this guy's

1115
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: pretty good, and then you watch other guys you're like,

1116
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: what is he doing? And it feels like when you

1117
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 1: watch Shane Waldron and the Bears, cause it's like you

1118
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: can't force Caleb to do something he's not good at

1119
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: right now. So if you want to have success, do

1120
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: stuff that you know he can do, even if it's

1121
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: just two or three plays, and those fucking plays, but

1122
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: it's like they're throwing bombs. The score is not twenty

1123
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: eight to nothing. At one point in time, it was

1124
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: twelve to seven. I say this all the time. Some

1125
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: coaches go into this pass heavy mode when they're down

1126
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: like less than two touchdowns. Just run the ball, and

1127
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: how they get back in the game they bust a

1128
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: big run. All of a sudden, it's like twelve to seven,

1129
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: rolling down five points. Well, yeah, the score is not

1130
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: that far away. The score was not twenty six to nothing.

1131
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: So I do think it's fair to say that Shane

1132
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: his feel as a play caller is not great. It's

1133
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: not because you watch the dude down with Baker Mayfield

1134
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: when his players were healthy, You're like, he's got a

1135
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: pretty good feel for play calling, Liam Cohen. And then

1136
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: you watch Shane Waldron You're like, I don't think he's

1137
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: got a great feel for play calling, So you might

1138
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 1: just have an offensive coordinator who I would imagine if

1139
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: you got Waldron in a room and gave him a

1140
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: pen and a white, he blow your mind. He's probably

1141
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: he might be good on the field as well the

1142
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: practice field, but when it comes to the games, like

1143
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: there's no rhythm or method to his madness. Hey, John,

1144
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you when will Jalen Hurts get his

1145
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,480
Speaker 1: respect as a pocket passer. His stats every year have improved.

1146
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: He's completing sixty eight percent of his passes currently in

1147
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: a ninety eight quarterback rating, and hasn't had a consistent

1148
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator every year. He's played a lot better the

1149
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: last couple of games. He looked that they can be potent.

1150
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: Man when you get Saquon Rowland when AJ's healthy. Davante,

1151
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: he's a good player when he runs. When he is

1152
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: a threat to run the ball, you have to you know,

1153
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of cliche, like we gotta defend every blade

1154
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: of grass. You literally do with the Eagles because their

1155
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: running back is dumb. Their quarterback is a great deep

1156
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: ball thrower and can't scramble and throw and he can run.

1157
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: So to me, Jalen like, part of the problem last

1158
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 1: year is like when all he wants to do is

1159
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: be a pocket passer, it's not as good when the

1160
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: scramble running element is part of his game. He's pretty dynamic. Now.

1161
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: The Bengals defense has not been good and the Giants

1162
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: are a train wreck. So but you build some momentum.

1163
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: They're kicking ass and taking names. They played their best

1164
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: half of football in two years. I'd be excited. I

1165
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: know the Bears have not historically fired a coach midseason,

1166
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: but loss is like this underscore how incompetent this coaching

1167
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: staff has been. Everflu's runs a good defense, Jayden was

1168
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: neutralized from most of the game, but the Eberflus Bears

1169
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: invent ways to loose the last two years. Critical turnovers

1170
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: in big games plagued our team, whether it was fields,

1171
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: pick or fumble, or a special team's mishap. The Bears

1172
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: always crumble in big moments. Now, in the biggest game

1173
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: of the year, the defense couldn't execute on the last

1174
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: play of the game. No pressure on Jaden because he

1175
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: was only rushed by three and our starting cornerback was

1176
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: messing around with the crowd. I've never watched this team

1177
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: and questioned the coaching staff decisions more consistently than I do. Now.

1178
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: Will Ibra Flush finish the season as the Bears head coach?

1179
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: When will the Bears coaching staff be held accountable for

1180
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: their terrible decision making? Well, you know the Bears ownership

1181
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: better than me. Like you said, they've never fired a

1182
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: coach in season. They clearly like the guy. His jobs

1183
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: in major jeopardy right now. Not to be fired in

1184
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,879
Speaker 1: the middle of the season, but if they miss the playoffs,

1185
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: he's done. They have a massive game on Sunday. They're

1186
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: flying across the country. I guess they're kind of in

1187
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: the middle of the country, but flying to Arizona, which

1188
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: is probably a three hour flight. There are a lot

1189
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: of Bears fans that live in this area. My guess

1190
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 1: is Sunday at I think it's State Farm, it is

1191
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: going to be fifty percent Bears fans. It is going

1192
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 1: to be a massive Chicago turnout. So this Arizona team

1193
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: is a tough team to play that their team is

1194
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 1: just they have had countless upsets this year. Kyler is

1195
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: a mother. Defensively, they're not very good though, so it's like,

1196
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: are you gonna be able to pass on them? Because

1197
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: most teams can pass pretty easily on them. And this

1198
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: gets back to Shane Waldron. I think big picture if

1199
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: you're a Bears fan, which sucks because it's like we

1200
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: all could die tomorrow, Like there's no guarantee. It's always like, well,

1201
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: what about just let's just lose out as we can

1202
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: get rid of the cod which get some draft picks

1203
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: and who knows. It's like, why can't we be the

1204
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 1: seventh seed this year? That's where I understand Bears fans

1205
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: being so mad right now.

1206
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 3: Like, guys, we could have been in the playoffs right now,

1207
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 3: even if we're one and done, how fucking awesome would

1208
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 3: a playoff game be? And now it feels like, are

1209
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 3: we just gonna lose the Packers and the Lions in Minnesota?

1210
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 3: We're gonna loose in the Niners? Are we gonna end

1211
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 3: up going seven and ten? Even though we got more talent.

1212
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: Than last year because of these coaches, And to me,

1213
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: that's where I think you just gotta keep your fingers crossed,

1214
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: Like is Belichick interested? Is Mike Vrabel interested? Because you

1215
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: gotta They historically don't spend a lot of money on coaches.

1216
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: Though that was bad. That was bad. And Waldron is

1217
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 1: play calling whenever you watch the Bears, it's like the

1218
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: deep bombs worked against the Jags and the Panthers, but

1219
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: it's like, can we get some other plays in the mix?

1220
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: Make some stuff easy? Another question about sat Shane Waldron?

1221
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,839
Speaker 1: Am I allowed to blame Waldron for Caleb being terrible?

1222
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: Shane obviously is an awful play caller, but Caleb is

1223
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: so inaccurate and inconsistent. Yeah, it's I think the great

1224
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: part about these conversations is no one really knows, right.

1225
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: It's like, how do you quantify who's doing shittier? Like

1226
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: is Caleb just really frenetic right now and leaving the

1227
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,839
Speaker 1: pocket too early and scrambling around and missing deep balls

1228
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 1: because he's inaccurate or because the play calling is bad?

1229
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: Are they not teaching him stuff during the week? Does

1230
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: he not understand the defensive looks? It's why football is

1231
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: so fascinating because it's like Aaron Judge can't hit a

1232
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: fastball right now, It's just it's black and white. It's

1233
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: like ball down the middle, swinging a miss curveball, no chance.

1234
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: With Caleb, it's like, well, is he an accurate passer?

1235
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: And then you watch some of those passes at the

1236
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: end of the game where he makes some big plays.

1237
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: I think the reality is the coaching staff has been underwhelming,

1238
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: and also you have to say Caleb, I would say,

1239
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: has been a little underwhelming as well as the hype

1240
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: and the number one overall pick. He's not exactly picking

1241
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 1: apart from the pocket. And while they call too many

1242
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: deep balls, his is not. They're not even close now.

1243
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: I think on the bright side, arm strength. He's overthrowing them,

1244
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: so it's not like he's got a peace shooter. He's

1245
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: got a big time arm. His athleticism is evident. He

1246
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: does just like when you watch him on television, I

1247
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: would say, look shorter than you would like, and we

1248
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: knew height is not you know, he's not six thirty

1249
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 1: six four. But I do wonder if sometimes he struggles

1250
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: to see over the pocket, like is he ever going

1251
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: to be a great pocket passer. I that would concern me,

1252
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: but I would go, let's just get a better coaching

1253
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: staff before I'm gonna come to judgments. But I do

1254
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: think two things can be true. Coaching staff not been great,

1255
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: Caleb's been a little underwhelming in some of these big moments. Now,

1256
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: part of it is their O line sucks, so he's

1257
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: getting pressured. And as my guy told me, well, they

1258
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: lost their starting left tackle early in that game. I

1259
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: just think the everything's off. Their offense is just off

1260
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: in games that matter, which should really concern you because

1261
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: these Packer and Lions games are gonna be really freaking hard.

1262
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: He's gonna go. Listen, everyone's like, well they figured out

1263
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: Brian Flores' defense, Well, Shane Waldron and Caleb gonna figure

1264
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 1: that out. Because it's one thing if if if Ben

1265
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: Johnson and Jared Goff figured out like Shane Walter and Caleb,

1266
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna find the weak spots, They're gonna be able

1267
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: to handle him switching up all the coverages. I don't know.

1268
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm watching Philly and Cincinnati and I can't help but

1269
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: get the feeling that he actually the tush push needs

1270
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: to go, not for specific injury, reasons or penalty reasons,

1271
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: mainly because it's just an awful viewing experience. I'm torn

1272
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: on this one. It's like it's football, it's in the

1273
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: rule book, and a huge reason they're able to do

1274
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: it is because their quarterback's really powerful. Like I don't

1275
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: think it would work if you have a quarterback who

1276
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: can't squat six hundred pounds or whatever. You can, you know,

1277
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: Kelsey who's gone now, but Dickerson or you know, the

1278
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: center and the guards, like obviously their job's really hard,

1279
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: but Jalen's power is a separating factor. But I gotta

1280
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: agree with you. I do think it sucks. It'd be

1281
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 1: like it's a little like this with Victor wembin Yama,

1282
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: but it's still harder. Like if you just didn't have

1283
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: to jump to dunk, you know, back like George Mirasan

1284
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: just hand them and he just dunks it. You're like,

1285
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 1: this is this even basketball? And they get to inside

1286
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: the two yard line it's like an automatic touchdown. It's

1287
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: like this sucks. And again just saying it, like you

1288
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: said from a viewer, definitely if you gamble on them

1289
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: or have Saquon rushing props, it's like, yeah, this is

1290
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: gonna be Jalen. There's gonna be Jalen. But it's hard

1291
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: for me to blame them for doing it because it

1292
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 1: freaking works. But I hear you, like, no one's jumping

1293
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: out of their seat if they're not an Eagle fan,

1294
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: going honey, push push, come watch it. It sucks. It's

1295
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:47,799
Speaker 1: it's the most boring playing football because it's automatic USC

1296
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: big home game in Boulder, Texas, first Georgia. I just

1297
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: can't help but think the side show distraction going on

1298
01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: the sideline has hurt these teams. You're eighteen to twenty

1299
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: two year olds. How can it not How much of

1300
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: a distraction do you think all these celebs on the

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01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: sideline are causing. I don't think they were that. I

1302
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: guess you're talking the Penn State game. I think these

1303
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: guys kind of get dumb to it. I really do.

1304
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't think the sidelines in college football just keep

1305
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: an eye on it for a big game. When you

1306
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: factor in how many sideline passes, famous people alumni boosters

1307
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: get in college football, you dress, I don't know, eighty

1308
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: ninety guys for a home game. And coaching staffs in

1309
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: college also include recruiting staffs, so the sidelines are packed.

1310
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: Watch an NFL game sideline, there is open space everywhere

1311
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: because the scouts aren't staying on the sideline. There are

1312
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: no such thing as sideline passes. They don't exist in

1313
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, and it's just way more open. You watch

1314
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: these colleges, you're like you can barely move. Remember being

1315
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: in Texas, Oklahoma, It's like there's not even space for

1316
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: the players. That to me is a bigger deal than

1317
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: McConaughey or former NFL players or whatever on the sideline.

1318
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: So it might if you're a true freshman, it could

1319
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: definitely feel like a lot like feel a little overwhelming.

1320
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: I think once you've been playing for a while, it's

1321
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: like it's like a golfer. If me or you hit

1322
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: a golf shot in front of fifty people, it's really intimidating.

1323
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: But if you've got a pro golfer in front of

1324
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: thousands of people, they're just kind of numb to it.

1325
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: Once you do something long enough, you kind of become

1326
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: numb to it. I think you're more feeding off the

1327
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: crowd than you're worried about who's standing outside the twenties

1328
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 1: on your sideline. So I guess my over all reaction

1329
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: is not a big deal. I don't think it's that

1330
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: big a deal at all. Question for the mailback when

1331
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: it comes to Seattle's quarterback situation, why not fire up

1332
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: Sam Howell whenever they move on for Gina, he was

1333
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 1: pretty good with the Washington not great, but certainly capable.

1334
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: I also wonder why some of these teams who need

1335
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: a quarterback, like New Orleans or the Raiders don't trade

1336
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: for him. He's still young, and I see no reason

1337
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: why he couldn't get better on like a Gino, Darnold

1338
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 1: or Baker situation. Am I just missing something or is

1339
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: he that bad? Uh? Well, the reason that the Saints

1340
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: they drafted Spencer Ratler and they drafted Jay Hayner, so

1341
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: they're just hoping one of those guys becomes Sam Howel.

1342
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: The Raiders paid Minshew fifteen million or ten million, and

1343
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: they drafted Aidan O'Connell. So it's like, we got to

1344
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: figure out if these guys can play. I'd be lying

1345
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: if I watched much Washington football last year, which they

1346
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: were clearly really bad, and offensively, he was getting sacked

1347
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 1: on stop. So I know a lot of people that

1348
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 1: liked him coming out of college. But I don't know.

1349
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not He's not better in Geno Smith.

1350
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: And I'm a Geno skeptic in these big games. But

1351
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: Geno Smith is one better in sam Au, better athlete,

1352
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: better arm, uh, just a better player. So if if

1353
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 1: you want to have a chance, a better chance to

1354
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: win on a daily basis or weekly basis, Geno gives

1355
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: you that. With the Panthers trading away Deontay Johnson, I

1356
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: feel like they've hit rock bottom. The organization seems to

1357
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: go backward every year, and it's hard to stay loyal.

1358
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: I just want to enjoy football, but I'm close to

1359
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: jumping ship. What would you do if you were in

1360
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: my shoes? I think we're gonna rename these guys the

1361
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: Porta Potty Panthers. People liked when I talked about the

1362
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:09,759
Speaker 1: outhouse and the penthouse and I described the Porta Potty

1363
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 1: experience on a hot day to the Carolina Panthers. I

1364
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: don't know, man, it sucks. I don't really know what

1365
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: to tell you. You have to tell me what team

1366
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: you want to join. But I never blame anyone in

1367
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: a situation where it's like I've watched this team for

1368
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: years and this is just this is not fun because

1369
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: ultimately you as a fan, like this is all fun,

1370
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 1: and it's one thing like, hey, you have bad years,

1371
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: you have a downstretch, like if you're an Eagle fan, like, yeah,

1372
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: last year sucked. But it's like these are first world problems.

1373
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: Like if you're a Giants fan right now and you're

1374
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: twenty years old, you're like, for the last ten years

1375
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: of my life, this has been embarrassing. Okay, am I

1376
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: gonna always experience this? It's like, well we won two

1377
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowls? Well, yeah, when I was eight years old

1378
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: and the other one when I was four, Like the

1379
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: majority of my team years have been four or five wins.

1380
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm all for going through a rough season or two,

1381
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 1: but if every single year looks the same, what am

1382
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: I doing? Sundays are supposed to be enjoyable? A magic

1383
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: being a Chiefs fan. These last ten years, they got

1384
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: greater life sped even with Alex Smith winning ten eleven games.

1385
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: Now Mahomes doesn't get any better. Patriot fans for twenty

1386
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: years and that's the best case. But even if you're

1387
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: just like a Ravens fan or a Bills fan like

1388
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 1: gay I don't know if we're gonna win the super Bowl,

1389
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: but see you in the playoffs and every Sunday. For

1390
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: the most part, it's gonna be awesome. Because if we

1391
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: go twelve and five, it's like, yeah, we lose five games,

1392
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: Well we fuckingt your win a lot. This sucks. It sucks,

1393
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: and for it's one thing to be even the Giants,

1394
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: they have these games that are respectable, Like the level

1395
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: in which you guys are playing is unwatchable, unwatched. I

1396
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 1: love football and I can watch most any game. The

1397
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: YouTube set up on Sunday afternoon, they didn't have four boxes,

1398
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: so I put a game on each TV. But there

1399
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: was five games going on, so obviously the Bears Commanders

1400
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: got the big TV. The second TV I think was, uh,

1401
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: what was the other? There was another decent game going on, Oh,

1402
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: Seattle Buffalo. Then I put on the Chargers against the

1403
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Saints and the Raiders and the Chiefs on the other two,

1404
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: thinking those, you know, obviously the Chargers and the Chiefs

1405
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: were gonna win those games. I was like, I don't

1406
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: need to Denver Carolina, Like I didn't. I have not

1407
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: seen one play from I saw play because certain had

1408
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 1: a pick I saw a highlight. It's like, I don't

1409
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: need to watch this game. I do this for a living.

1410
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: It's like even Sean Payton after the game kind of

1411
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: didn't really matter. It's hard to even judge. It's like

1412
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: they don't even matter. The game does not matter. And

1413
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: it turned out like the Saints game to the Chargers

1414
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: didn't matter either. They're so terrible. But it was like,

1415
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta pay attention here like I did

1416
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: not because you know the outcome. It's like my favorite

1417
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: bet of the week. You wait, you're gonna put Bryce

1418
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: Young on the road in Denver against that defense. I

1419
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: feel for you, man, I don't necessarily have a good

1420
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: answer for you. Beside, I think the easiest thing to

1421
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: say is like, hang in there, but bullshit, Like why

1422
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: do they deserve your time? The most valuable thing you

1423
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: have in your life is your time, and Sunday afternoon

1424
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: or Sunday morning, you can be doing whatever you want.

1425
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: You can be watching other games and you're watching that. Okay,

1426
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: last question, Geno Smith, Sam Darnold, any chance Zach Wilson

1427
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: is next? He has more wins last year than Rogers

1428
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: has this year. I just don't know. How he gets

1429
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: a chance to start? You know, part of Sam went

1430
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 1: to Minnesota and became the starter. They traded Russell Wilson,

1431
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: and Gino became the starter. How does Zach Wilson get

1432
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 1: the opportunity to start? I just I have a hard

1433
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: time seeing that. So I think he's still a couple

1434
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: of years away. He would need an injury then to

1435
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: play some games and look good, and then in the

1436
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: off season someone gives him the opportunity to be a

1437
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: bridge quarterback and then he takes in runs with it.

1438
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: But I don't see a scenario in the offseason where

1439
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: someone signs him and even gives him the opportunity to

1440
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: compete for the job. So he has a much higher

1441
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: uphill battle. Remember Geno Smith for years became a backup

1442
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: quarterback years after you know the Jets situation. So after

1443
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Gina leaves the Jets, he goes to the Giants backup quarterback.

1444
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: Famously got to start the game for Eli Manning which

1445
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: I actually attended against the Raiders the Chargers twenty eighteen

1446
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. Then he goes to Seattle and Russell's there

1447
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: and is the backup for basically three seasons, so he

1448
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: became the backup with the Giants the Chargers Seattle for

1449
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: three seasons before he won the job, So they had

1450
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: spent three years around the guy before they said, yeah,

1451
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: let's give the guy an opportunity. And at the time

1452
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 1: he had to compete with Drew lock Yeah, because when

1453
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: they traded Russell Wilson, they brought Drew Locke. One thing

1454
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: they said it was like they're gonna compete. So I

1455
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: think Zach Wilson is one of those stints, like for

1456
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: a couple of years, backup quarterback, maybe like a veteran player.

1457
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: Either the guy gets hurt and he's thrust into action

1458
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: or just like over time he woos them and wins

1459
01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: their trust. But Gino, like Sam was a third pick

1460
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: in the draft, right, and then Kyle Shanahan became a

1461
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: backup and then became a bridge. So is Zach even

1462
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: technically the second string quarterback right now? I don't think

1463
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 1: he is. It's a good question. I have to look

1464
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: at the who's usually the emergency quarterback for the Broncos.

1465
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: My guess is Zach Wilson, But could be wrong on that. Okay, Audios,

1466
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 1: have a great day. I'm gonna try to feel better

1467
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:30,799
Speaker 1: the volume