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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 2: a sibling.

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Speaker 3: Railval No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your

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Speaker 3: mouth revelry. That's good. Oh, I'm excited about this. We're

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Speaker 3: going to do our.

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Speaker 2: Email emails, always love emails, always crying. I know, I know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: There's one on I feel it says sad, so I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming that this could be. But when I was reading

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Speaker 2: these before, I was in a very emotional state. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I will see. I mean, I'm feeling better about

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Speaker 2: myself and my life a little bit. So yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe i've cut off.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to do the first one? Or should

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Speaker 3: I do the first one?

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Speaker 1: I want to say this before we get into this,

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Speaker 1: And I'm always so grateful that people share these stories. Yes,

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Speaker 1: maybe because I think it makes a lot of people

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Speaker 1: feel good, even when it's a sad story.

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Speaker 3: It makes them feel like they're not alone. Because I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of people share. We talked about this

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Speaker 3: on one of our other episodes.

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Speaker 1: HM, just that people share tragedy and then people share

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Speaker 1: the joyous moments of siblings and all of these things.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.

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Speaker 3: Where are we going to start? Should I go first?

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Speaker 2: Why don't you go first?

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Speaker 3: I'm scared. I always get emotional.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, Here we go?

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Speaker 3: Hello first? All right?

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Speaker 1: First, of course, I have to say, I really adore

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Speaker 1: your podcast. It is so comforting, Allie. Your in endearing

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Speaker 1: way of being honest about your flaws and struggles really

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Speaker 1: helps me work through my self hate and doubt that

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Speaker 1: I really struggle with.

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Speaker 3: So thank you, Kate.

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Speaker 1: The way you laugh and love with your entire being

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Speaker 1: is something I aspire to. My name is Lizzie, and

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Speaker 1: I come from a large family. I've always described it

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Speaker 1: as the Brady Bunch, each parent having three and getting married,

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Speaker 1: but then having three more together. I am part of

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Speaker 1: the last trio, the second to last child of nine. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's almost like Danny and the.

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Speaker 3: Fuji Cows and the Fosters.

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Speaker 1: And they called themselves the Brady Bunch because they were

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Speaker 1: three boys. And then Ron, my partner, met my best

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Speaker 3: They had the three girls. Okay, my little brother.

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Speaker 1: Being the baby got lots of attention, while I was

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Speaker 1: like a quiet chameleon trying to blend in, which landed

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Speaker 1: me in circumstances like being the child left behind at blockbust. Oh,

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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't have changed it for anything. I loved

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Speaker 1: watching my siblings and being surrounded by chaos. And chaos

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Speaker 1: was plenty Friday night pizza with almost every kid, also

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Speaker 1: having a friend over, large Sunday breakfasts, and lots of

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Speaker 1: er trips. But the chaos was not just from the children,

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Speaker 1: but from our parents as well, handling a large split family,

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Speaker 1: their own childhood trauma and addictions. We had to witness

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Speaker 1: and sometimes be the brunt of their growing pains.

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Speaker 2: Really wow, that's connected to something deeper within.

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Speaker 3: Well, at least they had growing pains.

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

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Speaker 1: I'm on my period. This is gonna be tough, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean like I should be in.

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Speaker 2: Like that was surprising for me.

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Speaker 3: You know, well, I know this is going.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm kind of like I immediately projected into

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of tremulous times among the good ones,

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Speaker 1: and I watched all my older siblings leave as soon

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Speaker 1: as they were able to, each year getting increasingly more quiet.

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Speaker 1: I remember missing them greatly, and to this day I

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Speaker 3: Oh so she was the second to let Oh could

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: This is her and her younger brother right.

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Speaker 3: Where this is going.

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Speaker 1: I think aiming to get out of the chaos path

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Speaker 1: People are usually pretty good at this when you've had

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Speaker 1: some volatile trauma in life. However, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: daily communication in life and being involved, that is much

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Speaker 1: more difficult. With so many kids and different dynamics, some

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Speaker 1: even those are decreasing. We lost our mom to her

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Speaker 1: pain pill addiction seven years ago. Since then the separation

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Speaker 1: has increased. Our dad is very loving and supportive, but

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Speaker 1: had her issues when she Mom had her issues, but

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Speaker 1: she was our glue. I want that to change. And

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Speaker 1: I have to say, from listening to your podcast, I inspired.

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Speaker 3: To dig deeper.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't go first.

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Speaker 3: It was like delve right in.

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Speaker 1: I'm inspired to dig deeper with all of them. My

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Speaker 1: sister and I have already started a lot of communication.

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Speaker 1: We are learning a lot about ourselves, are past and

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Speaker 1: coming closer than ever. But I want to be able

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Speaker 1: to text all my siblings asking how are you without

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Speaker 3: As sad as that sounds.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the help from your podcast to put in

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Speaker 1: the work, and I have no expectations from it, but

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Speaker 1: I know I have to try. Thank you again and

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Speaker 1: all the best to you and yours.

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Speaker 3: Lizzy.

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Speaker 2: Good life.

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Speaker 3: It was so good.

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Speaker 1: That's hard because when you've got nine siblings, oh, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the age difference must be really extreme, you know what

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Speaker 3: And then to be the youngest.

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Speaker 2: And then it just goes from a full house to

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Speaker 3: I know, like a really really chaotic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, but being siblings doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 2: and communicate. It's like any other relationship in your life,

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Speaker 2: you have to work at it, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: It's so easy for life to sort of get in

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Speaker 3: No, no, there's nothing to give away.

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Speaker 1: But that's what's so interesting about that sibling dynamic in

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Speaker 1: then the shared experience of their own traumas is always

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Speaker 1: like the sibling right, you know, it's really interesting again

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Speaker 2: Or so blended. I mean, it's so you know. But

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Speaker 2: the thing is what she's what Lizzie is doing and

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Speaker 2: reaching out is probably the best thing, because you know,

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Speaker 2: and they're just not doing it. Yeah, sometimes it's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's also really hard to lose your mom to addiction

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Speaker 1: because people who have suffered loss through addiction, you can't help.

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Speaker 1: But at times, even though intellectually you're like, I know

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Speaker 2: Sometimes separating as a sibling, separating from that life, from

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Speaker 2: that trauma, from that pain. When you're hearing from another sibling,

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Speaker 2: maybe it brings it back in a sense, you know

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Speaker 2: thank you for sharing. That was really beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Like Oliver said that you're reaching out with no expectation.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can only do so much, so much, you know,

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Speaker 2: It can be a dark story, but the ending is

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Speaker 2: a beautiful light. My sister, Jamie and I are eleven

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Speaker 2: My mom's tubes were tied and at forty years old,

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Speaker 2: I was so excited for some unknown reason, reasons neither

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Speaker 1: So this is interesting because I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: And they can't go a day without talking, right whatever

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Speaker 2: And that's good, but it's a good analysis.

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Speaker 1: I'm just happy that they're able to like find each

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, well, Jackie, Yeah, thank.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully there's even more healing to be done. It

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Speaker 2: No, it's not j A c k I E.

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Speaker 1: nothing I can do about it. My mom is one

444
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Speaker 1: of five. She is the second oldest of three girls

445
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: and twin boys, the three girls being close in age

446
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: while having a ten year age gap from the youngest

447
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: girl to the twins. Her and her older sister have

448
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: all always had a turbulent relationship, resulting in my aunt

449
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: having a very surface level relationship with my sisters and me?

450
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: Or is it my sisters and I? Nonetheless, the statement

451
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: reigns true. I believe my mom and her younger sister

452
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: had a pretty normal relationship. Who was once upon a

453
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: time my favorite aunt. The twin boys she just adores

454
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: as do I. Our mother is a true saint who

455
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: goes above and beyond to try to bridge the gaps.

456
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: She's the peacemaker, oftentimes to her own detriment. She tried

457
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: her damnedest to love her own siblings while also upholding

458
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: her children's beliefs. She is my north star. I miss

459
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: my family more than they will ever know. Thank you

460
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: for reading. Any advice you may have is welcome with warmth, gratitude,

461
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: and best wishes.

462
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: Alyssah weird, Yeah, what happened? I don't know.

463
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: Is it because Grandma and Grandpa died?

464
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like the maytriarch and the patri ree arc

465
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: and then and then you've got, you know, COVID to

466
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 2: shut down, not being able to sort of see each other,

467
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: and Grandpa's death, COVID quarantine, the election, her Grandma's declining

468
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: health was a strain on the family, and then it

469
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: sort of split everyone apart.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's I mean, I hate to say this, Alyssa,

471
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: but I feel like you're not alone. I feel like

472
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: there was a lot of families, especially in Quarantine, especially

473
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: the distance, especially the election, you know, and politics.

474
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. Back in all, it was a perfect

475
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: storm of sorts.

476
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Allie and I talk about a lot like losing.

477
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Speaker 1: You know, when you have a family and you're in

478
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: this great little pocket and grandma and Grandpa are still

479
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Speaker 1: alive and it's sort of this this great moment, and

480
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: then you kind of think, like, what happens when that shifts?

481
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, when grandma or grandpa pass away, it does

482
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: shift the family dynamic.

483
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and then you're bottled up. You know, you've

484
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: nowhere to go. You can lose your mind. I mean,

485
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 2: as far as advice goes, sometimes it takes the one person,

486
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: the champion, to say, hey, you know what, all on

487
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: a group text, put everyone on there and say this

488
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. We need to get together. Here's who we

489
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: were three years ago, and here's here's who we are now.

490
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: How did this happen? You know, unless there was one

491
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: inciting incident that needs to be talked about, okay, or

492
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: if it was just a collection of Grandpa dying, declining hill,

493
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: the grandma, COVID, quarantine, the election, all that, and it's like,

494
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: all right, well someone needs to champion the cause of

495
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: getting back together.

496
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: Well this is a good, this is a good. Actually, like,

497
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: let's put ourselves in her shoes?

498
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you do? I'm going to try to

499
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: think of what I would do. But was that what

500
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: you would do? You'd put everybody on a text if

501
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: this was us.

502
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's what I would do, because it's easier

503
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: to start that way. Obviously, pair down the what you've

504
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: written here, but similar saying this is who we used

505
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: to be and now we're this. How did we get here?

506
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: Why did we let this happen? And now it's time

507
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: to change it. COVID's over, Quarantine's over. You know, we

508
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: need to figure this shit out.

509
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe just even a simple thing that instead

510
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: of trying to fix it for everybody else, maybe what

511
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I would do is say I miss our family and

512
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: I miss and I would tell like stories and I

513
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: miss you know, the times we would all get together

514
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: and laugh, and it's so important for all of us

515
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 1: to have that and for me to have that. And

516
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: I just want you guys all to know that I

517
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: love everyone in our family and that I wish I

518
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: wish we were all still close and by the way,

519
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: instead of being like we need to see we fix this,

520
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, because like that maybe would make them see like, wow,

521
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: this is affecting Alyssa.

522
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you know. Yes, I mean I

523
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: was being a little bit more stern because that was

524
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: a sentiment behind it. But I agree. I mean, I

525
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't come in hot like we need to fucking fix

526
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: this ship, you assholes. I mean, but but, but, but

527
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: we're not dissimilar. Our families were all connected, but we're

528
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: off doing things and we're not in each other's spaces

529
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: a lot because of the nature of what we do.

530
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: But that family affair text chain can bring everyone together

531
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: within minutes where there's a joke, as told, something's laughing,

532
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: and then it sort of goes room and just rolls.

533
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Rider's text the other day it still

534
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: cracks me up.

535
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: Which one when he facetimed me and his dad when

536
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: he took.

537
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 3: When he took the picture.

538
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: It was so funny.

539
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: Rider did this thing or he faced he I was

540
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: facetiming him. He called me at night and I was

541
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Speaker 1: looking or something on my phone and he took a

542
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: picture of me like a you know, screenshot of me

543
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: looking insane like ilk yeah, like mid blank, I had

544
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: like five chins. I was like looking for something on

545
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: my thing. It was too late for him to even

546
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: be calling me. And then he sent this picture side

547
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: by side picture. He had been done the same thing

548
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: to his dad and he sent it. He put it

549
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: together side by side, and he sent it to our

550
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: family affair group chat and said, ladies and gentlemen, my parents.

551
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: And we both we looked exactly the same. Fun Oh,

552
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: it was so funny.

553
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: But I'm saying that group chat is a good thing.

554
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: The advice I would that would give a Lissa is

555
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: that because that can that can begin the bringing back together,

556
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: just even laughing and joking over text and sending pictures.

557
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: And I also think Alyssa is the you're the baby.

558
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're the youngest, and sometimes it takes

559
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: that like youthful vulnerability to get all of the older

560
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: generation looking at themselves and saying you know, the younger

561
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: generation in our family needs us and needs us to

562
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: be good, because that's they need to model for the family.

563
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: Not like literally model.

564
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: But likeway that's.

565
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: You need to model. You need to do a cat.

566
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: And even if there is conflict, like how to resolve

567
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: that conflict and come together and be together. It's all

568
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: we have, you know, I always say, like we need

569
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: to the world is so unpredictable right now. It all

570
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: starts at home. We need to be able to know

571
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: how to resolve conflict in our own families before we

572
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: anyone can truly understand how to resolve conflict on a

573
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: global scale. If we're not doing that, we're not making

574
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: that a priority to show our children and our families.

575
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: We're not going to be raising the next generation to

576
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: know how to do that.

577
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: That's a good idea. Actually, you should get all of

578
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: the leaders of all the countries and like just a

579
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: group chat. They have their own threats like putin, yeah,

580
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: putin like mercon, like all everyone, all the presidents and

581
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: prime ministers and leaders are just on a big group

582
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: chat to sort of like talking.

583
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: They like send gifts, yeah, like just gifts.

584
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: That's a funny sketch by the way, and I know

585
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: they're all like a group chat.

586
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: Oh, like what kind of gifts would putin send?

587
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: God, it's funny. And you show them all in their

588
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: respective places like texting and.

589
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: Like, you know, like really insane, you know, like I'm

590
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: a little concerned about the nuclear thing, and like putin

591
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Sen's a gift of like right right a girl going

592
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: like oh.

593
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: No, right, or it's like it's like what are you

594
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: doing that gift? That gift of Homer Simpson backing up

595
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: into the hedge, like, oh my god, try it, try

596
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: the group chat thing and then hit up hit us back.

597
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: I would love to see if this works me too. Okay,

598
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: your turn, My turn, Hi, Kate and no Oliver. I

599
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: really appreciate your podcast. My siblings are my best friends

600
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: and favorite drinking partners. Thank you for letting me share

601
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: this story. My older brother and I are closest in

602
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: age twenty two months apart. We grew up butting heads

603
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: as most siblings do, but as we got older we

604
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: became really close. Sounds familiar. We'd go out together in

605
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: high school and everyone always thought it was weird when

606
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: we'd run into each other at the same parties because

607
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: we were actually happy to see each other, unlike most

608
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: of the other siblings we were friends with lol. My

609
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: brother played D one football college at UVA and I

610
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: went to Clemson, so we had a little family rivalry

611
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: going in college, which was fun both being in the

612
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: ACC the UVA I know, the Uava Clemson games are

613
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: some of my best family memories. Oh that it must

614
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: have been amazing, amazing. Through that experience, I came to

615
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: the conclusion that I wanted to be a sports reporter.

616
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: Fast forward a few years later, I get a job

617
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: out of college as a sports reporter in Virginia covering

618
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: my brother's old team. He has since transferred to Southern

619
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: California and is now in the process of trying to

620
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: get drafted to the NFL.

621
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: Awesome.

622
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: His football career is a huge reason why I'm in

623
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: sports reporting now. And I texted him with sports questions

624
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, whether it be about schematic plays

625
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: or good questions I should ask athletes and interviews. You

626
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: guys rock best, Julius.

627
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: I love this one. How fun. I have a good

628
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: sports family.

629
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Speaker 2: That's a fun rivalry ye at UVA Clemson at home.

630
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's also another thing where you know you've

631
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: got you've got a sister and a brother, and like

632
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: the sort of power of good sibling relationships and how

633
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: it how it informs the.

634
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: Things that you end up doing and inspires.

635
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and here she is being a sports announcer.

636
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: Awesome.

637
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: That has to do with that connection with her brother.

638
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, love of sports and wanted to be a

639
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: part of it.

640
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: The best, the best scenario of all of this would

641
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: be he makes the NFL, she gets on ESPN and

642
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 2: now is reporting on the game. I mean, like, that's

643
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 2: the dream.

644
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: That would be unbelievable.

645
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: That is the dream that should be the goal. But right, well,

646
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: thanks Julia, that's awesome. You know, sometimes we get the

647
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: good ones. Julia sad ones, this was a very uplifting,

648
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: exciting one. Okay, okay, I'll read the shorty and Cake

649
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: can read the last one.

650
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: Oh geez, Okay.

651
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: When I would bring my friends home when I was

652
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: a teenager, my brother would walk up to them and

653
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 2: feel their pants and say, oh, cotton, then their shirt

654
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: sleeve and say ooh silk, these must be felt as

655
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 2: he grabbed their boobs. I can imagine you doing something

656
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: similar to Kate's friends, and.

657
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: Totally of a certain generation that was happening in this

658
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: generation right now.

659
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, be canceled before you even got to.

660
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: Silk can be canceled. You can't even get to the punchline,

661
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: which these must be felt.

662
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 3: It's so funny, that's hilarious.

663
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Speaker 2: But to answer your question, yes, this is something I

664
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: would have done, I mean not anymore. No, No, I

665
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: was never like that, though I was. I mean I

666
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: was extremely scared of girls. I mean all through high school,

667
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: all through still.

668
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if I remember it, that's true. I

669
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: maybe it was your own anxiety. You weren't showing it,

670
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: but on the outside it you didn't seem like someone

671
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: who was scared of girl.

672
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 2: I was afraid of rejection. So I had to make

673
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: sure that they loved that they were like deeply in

674
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: love with me, or wanted to see me naked before

675
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: I even made any conversation.

676
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: But you worked really hard and making sure that they.

677
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: No, I just weren't that. I would position myself at

678
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: the club or the bar to be seen and then

679
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: make a little eye contact and then make them come

680
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: to me, because I was way too scared to go

681
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: up and say like, hey, ill, aren't you like I

682
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: don't think I've ever done that in my entire life,

683
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: gone up to a girl and just been like, hey,

684
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: how are you. I'm Oliver Hudsond. Nice to meet. Yet

685
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so scary to me and awkward and weird.

686
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 2: I've never done that. Yeah, And then even in high school,

687
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't kiss Becca for like a billion years.

688
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: And she's sitting on a couch next to me, literally

689
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: looking at me with her eyes. She's just like, fucking

690
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: do it. And I'm sitting there.

691
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god.

692
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: And I remember my first kiss with her. I was

693
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: watching the Billie Idol video Rock the Cradle of Love,

694
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: which was like the sexiest video at the time. We're

695
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: sitting in her parents couch. I'm like, just do it,

696
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: Just do it, just do it. I was like, look

697
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: at it. It was I just jam in there like

698
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: so fast because it's trying to get it over with.

699
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: It was not good, but at least I broke the ice.

700
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: But I was so scared.

701
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: Oh she was probably so happy.

702
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: She was.

703
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: Was that a Davita's house.

704
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: That was at Beca's house. But my first kiss ever

705
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: was with Davida at Davidas at Davita's house and the

706
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: same thing happened. We're all sitting down watching Halloween. Everyone

707
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: leaves all the same time. Everyone gets like hungry at

708
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: the same time, purposely leaving Davida and I there. It's like,

709
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: oh no, here we go. And she's waiting, waiting, waiting,

710
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: and I'm doing nothing, nothing, And then the friends come

711
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: in and they're like, what happened? I said, nothing happened,

712
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: and I'm so angry at myself. I went into her

713
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: room and I was like pissed off, and Jesse comes

714
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: in and he's like, what happens? I said nothing. I

715
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: hated myself. And then all of a sudden, the girls

716
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: open the door and it's Tavita and Beca and all

717
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: the girls, and Davida goes, Oliver, come here. She took

718
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: full control, takes my arm, pulls me back into the room,

719
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: and just starts making out with me. And that was

720
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: my first kiss. And that's indicative of how I've lived

721
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: my life with females from that moment on. Even single

722
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: in la at clubs, I was always like, too scared, Well, now.

723
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about it, because no, I don't,

724
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: and you still kind of get like that because you

725
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: don't really well, I guess you're better now you have

726
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: to ask for affection.

727
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: No, I do, but I'm also still worried. I still

728
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: don't like being rejected. Like that's why Aaron has to

729
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: sort of initiate sex all the time, because I don't

730
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: want to do it. I don't want to be like,

731
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: come on, baby, let's go.

732
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: You're a fear of rejections exhaust.

733
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: I have no move.

734
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 6: I think it just I know, but my move with

735
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 6: my wife is just like pulling my wiener out. I'm

736
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 6: just like limp ween or just being like, ha, what

737
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 6: do you think am I going to get a thumbs

738
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 6: up or a thumbs down?

739
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: Terrible?

740
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: A thumbs I mean honestly, only a thumbs up because.

741
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: She cares about you.

742
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: But that move will always be a thumbs down for

743
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: any woman. Like, just do us a favor and don't

744
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: just pull the wiener out like it says it is.

745
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: It isn't the men do that all the time. They

746
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: just pull the wiener out. I limp and gross and

747
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: it's not pretty. Wien is notreak.

748
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: What do you want me to do with that?

749
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like like, does this turn you on my

750
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 2: wien er, turn you on in any way. She's like, honestly, no,

751
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: I mean really, it's not really what gets me going.

752
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, god, damn, okay, last one.

753
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: Maybe we should cut that one out.

754
00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: No, keep my wiener in. That's what she said.

755
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: Oh God, okay, okay, Hi, Kate and Oliver.

756
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: Oh watch this is me.

757
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: This is gonna be like so sad, oh good, Oh god, jeez.

758
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: Okay, Hi guys.

759
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: Let me start off by saying I love you both,

760
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: and purposely didn't address this to Kate and Oliver or

761
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: Oliver and Kate as not.

762
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: To boost hurt Allie's ego.

763
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 2: So funny.

764
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: I've been a fan of Goldies since her laugh in

765
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: days and even loved watching the silly Hudson Brothers show

766
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: back in the day.

767
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: Yes I'm that old or that wise or that wise.

768
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: I recently discovered your podcast and started with the older episode.

769
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: I absolutely love this podcast. It's evident that your parents

770
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: did an amazing job raising you. Whether it was Goldie

771
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: with Bill Kurt or both, it just doesn't matter. Someone

772
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: certainly did something right. Both such beautiful people, and it

773
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: shines through in your words and love of one another.

774
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: I cry at the drop of.

775
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: A hat like Kate, and can also be as goofy

776
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: as Oliver. I love when Goldie drops in. She's always

777
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: a guaranteed love and love you three have for each

778
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: other is extremely evident. Like I'm sure many others have

779
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: said in their emails to you, you make us wish

780
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: we could all be your best friends. For the past

781
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: couple of years, my favorite podcast of the many I

782
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: listen to has been Pete and Sebastian. Now with you two,

783
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: I'd have to say it's a tie for first place

784
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: on my list. Keep up the good work, and I

785
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: truly hope you continue this joint venture for many years

786
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: to come.

787
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: You have yet another loyal listener. Oh thank you. It's

788
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: a good positive Oh I love that. That makes me

789
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: feel so good.

790
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: Funny. She obviously is a true listener because she understands

791
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: my egos. Fragile. You know, she's older, which means we're

792
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: expanding demographic. There's all kinds of good things in this.

793
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: That's the best thing.

794
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking about this on an interview

795
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: I was doing, and it was really just the one

796
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: thing I'd love so much about doing this is that

797
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: feeling that yes, people you know have written in and

798
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: said what it feels like for them, that it's comforting,

799
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: or that it makes them happy, and that it makes

800
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 1: them feel like they're not alone and all those things.

801
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: And I think this dynamic, the sibling dynamic, brings up

802
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff for everybody and really does kind

803
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: of recenter you to think, well, you know what, we

804
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: kind of need to work on our family relationship, make

805
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: that more of a priority, or maybe inspired to do so.

806
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: So we always do speed rounds with the guests. But

807
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: this is fun, Alison wrote us a bit of a

808
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: speed round for us, So let's do it. The last

809
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: text you sent in general or to each other.

810
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: Look, well, yesterday we were we were doing a thing

811
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: and you wrote, you wrote that was fun.

812
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. That was it.

813
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: I wrote that was fun, and I didn't respond.

814
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 2: I respond until later, until the next day.

815
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: I don't mean to No, you wrote it late.

816
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 2: I did. But but the thing is when people don't

817
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: respond to my texts, I take no offense to the

818
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't either.

819
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: I don't either. Well, it depends on what it is.

820
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: Sometimes I don't respond. You're like, ohiver exclamation points, you're

821
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: trying to call me your face time, You're like, answer

822
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: your fucking phone.

823
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm usually joking. That's usually me just being silly. Yes,

824
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't really feel that way. I just like when

825
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: someone My thing, my move is when someone hangs up

826
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: on me, like and I know they hung up on me.

827
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: That's when I'm like, I write back, don't you ever

828
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: hang up on me? Now?

829
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: Let me ask you. Let me ask you an honest question.

830
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: Not not with me. Just in general, how often do

831
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 2: you see someone calling and don't pick up, Like I don't.

832
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk. I can't talk to this person.

833
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: I just don't feel like talking in general, like this

834
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: is this is.

835
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: Honestly not often really. Yeah, if I'm not if I have.

836
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: My phone and I'm not and I'm not doing something,

837
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: I'll answer me will Yeah. The problem is that I

838
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: hate my phone, So I leave my phone places yeah,

839
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: and I and.

840
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: Then I can't find my phone. Oh that's how much

841
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: I hate my phone.

842
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: I hate my phone too.

843
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: So so everyone's like, where are you? And I'm like,

844
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: I hate my I need life without my phone.

845
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: So I my phone sometimes causes nausea.

846
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: I hate it.

847
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes I pick it up and I don't know how

848
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: people going through the motion of like Safari mala like

849
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: throwing up because it's just like it's I'm almost programmed,

850
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: and I.

851
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: You're like, what am I doing? What am I doing?

852
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: Am I doing?

853
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: Why am I?

854
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: I already looked at my emails? I already looked at.

855
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: Them well, And then you're like, why am I on?

856
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: Like you know, offer up exactly, love, offer up.

857
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: I put a rug on there. It's been seven months,

858
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: I've got no bite.

859
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 3: Why am I on it? But why am I? What

860
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: am I looking at im?

861
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: Like look at you're like right, like CNN like for

862
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: the eight hundred times, like no headlines haven't changed.

863
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: Like I sometimes think about how my biggest issue with

864
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: the phone is that now because everyone's on their phone

865
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: all the time, they think if they said they think

866
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: of something.

867
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, I'm going to send you an email.

868
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: You know, hey, Kate, like please call back because I

869
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: need you to do X, Y and Z. Right, And

870
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: because they sent that email, they think they've finished contacting me.

871
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: Right, they can't call me. They didn't text me, right,

872
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: you need more.

873
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 3: An assistant, they didn't call right.

874
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,959
Speaker 1: They just are like I did my job I wrote

875
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: the email, and you're like, that's not doing your job.

876
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: That's not doing work.

877
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: Work is actually connecting with someone and talking through something.

878
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I miss that. I don't like exchanging emails.

879
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: And then they're like, would you like to do this?

880
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: You know, da da da da this like whatever for me?

881
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: Like an offer comes let me put it this way,

882
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: an offer comes in, would.

883
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: You like to do this?

884
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: I'll write back, you know all that sounds interesting, like

885
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: what's this about? And then they write back, well, I

886
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: think it's like this, and you're like, well mebia, And

887
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: next thing you know, you're going back and forth on.

888
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: An email and get on the phone.

889
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: And you're like, just pick up the phone and call

890
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: me and let's talk about it.

891
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: Like I can't. I don't want to stare into this device.

892
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: Talking to you now. I know, right, I have different

893
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: friends who do different things.

894
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna like throw my phone like a phone.

895
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: Tay Diggs only does videos. That's how he communicates. If

896
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: I text him something, all of a sudden whoop, like

897
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: an eight minute video of him in the caring like

898
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: what's up? Man, Like hey, fuck you? And I'm like

899
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm just this so like what's and he'll

900
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: ponder for like thirty seconds say nothing, like.

901
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: Well that's also exhausting, Tay, if you're listening, that's exhausting.

902
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: He used videos, all videos, Y Spade is all voice

903
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: note like he doesn't like voice notes. I like voice

904
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: note too easy.

905
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when you're like driving or doing something and

906
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: you can't type.

907
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the voice note is nice.

908
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: I like that. I like the voice. Like the voice.

909
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: Catherine Han does Marco polo.

910
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have that, which I try. I used

911
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: to do it, and now I don't do it.

912
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: She'll send me a Marco Polo and then and then

913
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like a notification will come up

914
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: and be like, you have a Marco Polo from Catherine

915
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: Han from five years ago, and I'm like, oh jeez,

916
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: but I I think, honestly, just call me, like I

917
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: get on the phone, let's talk about it. I want

918
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: to get rid of my email. Oh god, how well

919
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: this is interesting. I've been thinking about this. No way,

920
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 1: I have a thing on my email right now, although

921
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: it's off now, but I have like an out of

922
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: town Yeah.

923
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to keep an out of town thing.

924
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: That's good. All the time you can always see them.

925
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: That basically says I don't answer email often. Yeah, if

926
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: this is important, please contact this person or just call me. Yeah,

927
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: Like I can't, I don't. I hate sitting there. I

928
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: have so many things I want to read in a day.

929
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: The last thing I do is want to read. And

930
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: then I feel bad because people take the time to

931
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: write these really nice emails. And then you're like, fuck,

932
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: I have to sit here and read a really long email.

933
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: But there's also a benefit to the email, which is

934
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: then you don't have to talk to that person that

935
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: you don't want to talk to and you'd rather communicate

936
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: through text and email, which is great. Well, or you

937
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: just be like I don want to I want to

938
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 2: ask a favor, I want to ask a question. Sorry,

939
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be click Colleck send, and then

940
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: you're like okay instead of getting on the phone like hey, Mannik,

941
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 2: how are you has life that's crazy? Hey? And then finally,

942
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: so the reason I called is no. I love that.

943
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: It's so much better, it's so much more personable. It

944
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: makes it harder for someone to say no.

945
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: I email my agent like four days ago and didn't

946
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: get a response. Yeah, And I'm like, what the hell

947
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: do I call you? No, I call another one of

948
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: my other agents because it's film and TV both and

949
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: I've emailed my film agent. I was just like checking

950
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: in what's going on? You know, I need a job

951
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: being funny, and I said I'm open to soft core.

952
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: And I called Dollr, my other agent. I'm like, fucking Chris,

953
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: isn't bag has been four days? Turns out soft core

954
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 2: was flagged and put into a spam WHOA, I guess

955
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: you can't say soft core?

956
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: Why?

957
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I said it there, I said soft

958
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: core is I didn't say porn. I just literally said

959
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: soft core. Interesting, so at CIA it was flagged And

960
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: then like thrown Away is not in the softcore not

961
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: yet song you can't get out of your head?

962
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: Oh well right now, mind.

963
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: I know mine's wrecking Ball.

964
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: Well, it's because you.

965
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: Sang it yesterday.

966
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: I know that's a great song. It is the woman

967
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: who wrote that song. It's actually a great story. And

968
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: when she sings the song because she wrote it, she

969
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: wrote it.

970
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: About her relationship.

971
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: It's literally like a relationship, like her engagement, like when

972
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: it was a terrible it's a terrible story, but she

973
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 1: put it into that song.

974
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: So when she sings it, so it's so powerful. Yeah,

975
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: so sad, so deeply sad.

976
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I was with Sandler on vacation and and

977
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: he he likes all music, but you know, he's got

978
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: his girls and they like certain music. So he's playing

979
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus, which I don't really listen to. Oh, her

980
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 2: new album fucking good.

981
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a great album. Her album's great.

982
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: The production on it is awesome. Yeah, and she sounds great.

983
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: Well, she's got one of the great instruments. She's not

984
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: one of my favorite voices.

985
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: No, it's different, different, you know.

986
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: It's also it's also I think this is I think

987
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: this is her best album.

988
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: I love this album because she it's like, I don't know,

989
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: it feels mature.

990
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: Last movie.

991
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: What song is you Can't get out of your Head?

992
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: I would say, other than other than that, other than

993
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: like the fact that I'm deep in it with my stuff,

994
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: I would say, the song I Can't get out of

995
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: my head.

996
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: Would be, well, now you're putting one in your head.

997
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

998
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: So it's it's this is not working now your whole album,

999
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: it really is. That's it. You can't get your record.

1000
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 3: I can't tell. Yeah, I know what song it is.

1001
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: I just can't tell you.

1002
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 2: Last movie you watched? God?

1003
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: Oh, well, I just watched Succession.

1004
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: Which is not a movie because the next question is

1005
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: last show.

1006
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 3: But the last movie I watched was Murder Mystery Too.

1007
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: Did you I did?

1008
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: I watched it?

1009
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, I can't even remember the last movie I watched. Honestly,

1010
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: maybe Knives Out too?

1011
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? You did?

1012
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: That's right in Colorado?

1013
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: That's right? Wow? Is that the last movie.

1014
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: I don't watch movies because I watched TV. I watched

1015
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: TV shows.

1016
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 3: Well, you got to watch you have to watch movies.

1017
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: I want to.

1018
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: I need to see Triangle of Sadness. It's so I know,

1019
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: I know, and you know, and I watched. But I've

1020
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: been watching so many movies lately.

1021
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm on a kick. I'm on a mission.

1022
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: Well, it's also the old movie. I'm on a mission.

1023
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: Because I really want to see that event movie. I

1024
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: want to like bring back genres of films that I

1025
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: think have a real place in the movie theater.

1026
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: I think we need to focus on those things.

1027
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: Even though there's also the other part of where the

1028
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: industry is going, which is streaming and all that, But

1029
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: I still think that I still think there's a there.

1030
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 3: Obviously there's an audience for the theater.

1031
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a great weekend the other weekend

1032
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: with Air and and uh what was the other one

1033
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: that super Maria.

1034
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: Super Mario completely destroyed.

1035
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, this is great.

1036
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: Crazy did Air do good?

1037
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 3: Air did great?

1038
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty I think twenty something million at

1039
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: the opening weekend.

1040
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: I got to see it. I think it's on a

1041
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: bit of a rebound.

1042
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 3: I hope so because we love movie theaters.

1043
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, last last movie you watched in the theater?

1044
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I don't knives out, Knives Out. I

1045
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: mean it was kind of a theater.

1046
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a theater.

1047
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 2: The Wheeler Operas, Yeah, got it? Yeah, I think yeah.

1048
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: Mine was.

1049
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: It's a smile. The horror was really good?

1050
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: Was it good?

1051
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: Scary?

1052
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't like? Okay, last show you watched Succession?

1053
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Beef last night watching Beef Beef.

1054
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 3: I want to see beef.

1055
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: Beef is cool. Beef is is like this little show.

1056
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: It's actually getting great reviews by getting bigger on Netflix.

1057
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's really good. Different off beeaf Alley Ali

1058
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 2: Wong love her. She's amazing. Everyone in it is amazing.

1059
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: It's the same people who did everything everywhere else.

1060
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: Give me the elevator pitch, give me the give give

1061
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: our audience the beef elevator pitch.

1062
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. It opens with a like a six to seven

1063
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: minute road rage incident, and you get to sit from

1064
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: the perspective of one character and you follow him coming

1065
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: out of a sort of a home depot type of

1066
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: a store, and it's nothing bad. He backs up and

1067
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: there's a honk and that's that. She flips him off

1068
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: and boom, this whole road rage incident starts. It's crazy.

1069
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's big, six minute and that then takes

1070
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: you into the different worlds of who were in the

1071
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: cars and then how their lives sort of collide. Interesting. Yeah,

1072
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: that's sort of what it is. And there's all kinds

1073
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: of stuff in between you.

1074
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm in it's good, I'm in okay book you're reading

1075
00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: right now.

1076
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: The one you gave me.

1077
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 3: Yes, what's the text? And you love it?

1078
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: Love it. It's really really great. It's just so up

1079
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: my alley. The character reminds me of me, strangely, and

1080
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm not deep into it enough to give a pitch

1081
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: on what the book is, because right now it's Slice

1082
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: the lifey, but it's good, really good.

1083
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: Right The book I'm actually reading right now isn't even

1084
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: out yet.

1085
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: No, it's called Monsible and it's very funny.

1086
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: I can't tell anybody what it is, but I really

1087
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: like it and it has a it's a Jewish No.

1088
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 3: And then but another book is I've been reading.

1089
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: I've been doing this thing where I read twenty minutes

1090
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: every morning, something nourishing.

1091
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: So I wake up before the kids. I like put

1092
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 3: on weird.

1093
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: Like flute music and it's like mm hmmm, and like

1094
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: or I put on vibration. It's like morning vibration, you know,

1095
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: to elevate your mind. And then I get coffee and

1096
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: I cover stairs and I read twenty minutes. And the

1097
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: twenty minutes that I'm reading is the Book of Secrets

1098
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: Deepak Chopra, and I love it. And so I find

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Speaker 1: too that when I do that every morning for twenty minutes,

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00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: I finish these books like this so fast. If you

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00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: tell yourself I'm going to read twenty minutes every day

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Speaker 1: of my book, you will finish that book. This is

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Speaker 1: what I'm meaner than and so I do it now.

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Speaker 1: Every day I read for twenty.

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00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 2: Minutes because I get so locked into television that I

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00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: forget to read and.

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Speaker 1: Read in the morning because your brain is awake, and

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00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: it really does sort of like wake up your brain

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00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: brain to.

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Speaker 3: I mean, lately, I've been reading more than ever.

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00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: So I read for twenty minutes and then I've always

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00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: got a book on audio and I'll do, like right now,

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Speaker 1: my monsa Ball books on it audio, and I paint.

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Speaker 3: I do my paint.

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00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: Oh, that's great.

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00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: So I paint by numbers. That's right, that's my new one,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Stand up?

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00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? I stand up so that I don't get blood.

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Speaker 2: Cloths, yeah, or I move around right. I pulled this up,

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Speaker 2: Clara in the Sun. It's an Echy Guru book, and

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00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: it is really good. I finished. I just finished that.

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00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: Just the writing. It's such he's such a good writer.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Now when did that come out?

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Speaker 2: Twenty one, two thousand? Okay, but he when the Pulitzer. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I want to read it a while back. Not not

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Speaker 2: not with this book. But it's like, it's just such

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00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: an interesting book about AI. But it's but it's but

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00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: it's not. But it is, it's it's it's really good.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Well it's good.

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Speaker 4: Well, as you know where we are, Oliver and I

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Speaker 4: do like to read.

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Speaker 1: We actually said we should have a book. I know,

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Speaker 1: we keep saying that we should just try it.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to try it. I'll do it. I love

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Speaker 3: to read. We have to, we have to. You have

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00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: to meet or at least like zoom.

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00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. But when well, there's things we can do. It's

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00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: got to finish the book.

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00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: You do it in chapters. You do like one to five.

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00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: So by the end of two weeks we have to

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Speaker 1: read from chapters one to five and we meet on Wednesday.

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00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: It will never work.

1146
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: I should try it. We should try it.

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00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: I know Mom's like, I will be in Tel Aviv

1148
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: and then we get like I didn't go to Tel Aviv.

1149
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: What she guess, I'm going to be in Dubai for

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00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: six months and then all of a sudden like I'm

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00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: not going to do by.

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: That's her new thing things. It doesn't go the new

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00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: new phase for mom.

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: Oh, next place you're traveling to is speed round. I'm

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00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: going to Cabos and Lucas on Wednesday.

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00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to n y C. To help write her

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00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: at his first apartments. Oh good, and so we're gonna

1158
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: go do that. And based on what we've seen, looks

1159
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: like he's living in like he's like, we got to

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Speaker 1: go to New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, he's got he's got big hopes.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, honey, you got to lower these these.

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Speaker 2: The last thing you bought.

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00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 3: The last thing I bought was a oh, that's a

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00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 3: good question.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I bought were these Japanese prints that

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00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm putting in my office and they're really they're really cool.

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00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: They're like Japanese posters. They have like really great color,

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00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: like pops primary color.

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Speaker 2: The last thing I put my credit card down for

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00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: was yesterday a golf fitting.

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00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: Oh how was it?

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00:59:59,400 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: That was good?

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01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 3: Are you excited?

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01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you know.

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01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: So I also bought myself some saying Laurrel boots.

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Speaker 3: Oh jeez, that was also I did that. I'm not

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01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: gonna lie. I went there.

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Speaker 1: They were just so great and they make me like

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Speaker 1: ten inches taller, right, and I can walk in them.

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Speaker 2: The last thing I bought actually was probably Rio's tutor

1182
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: from last night.

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01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, my electric bill.

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01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: The first thing you did when you got up this morning?

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Speaker 1: I well, the first thing I did was Ronnie kim running. Well, actually,

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01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: the first thing that happened was I overslept, which I'd

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01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: never do, and it was eight ten. Whoa, yeah crazy.

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01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm usually up at like six point thirty. And Bing

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01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: came and was like, bye, mom.

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Speaker 3: Is everything okay?

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01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: Bye?

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01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, honey, but yeah, we

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01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: both overslept. And then oh, the first thing I had

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Speaker 1: to do was Ronnie. I woke up to he had

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01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: face paint all over her face. Oh really, yeah, she drew.

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01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: She's drawing all these like very artsy face painting things.

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Speaker 1: And so she came in and she's like ready for

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Speaker 1: co Yeah, She's like what am I? Mommy, I'm like

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Speaker 1: a rainbow She's like, no, a prince, rainbow princess.

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Speaker 3: No, like, well what she's like.

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Speaker 2: A rainbow fairy? Angry?

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01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, I'm sorry, you're a rainbow fairy.

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01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: And then I had to wash it off because she

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01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: didn't want it anymore.

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Speaker 2: And she was like the secon thing I did is

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01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: I wake up and I go wake up my kids.

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01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 2: And there's a pattern coffee. I wake up the kids.

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Speaker 2: Aaron sleeps a little open up like first wake up.

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: Call, like Danny, why are we the waker uppers.

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Speaker 2: I just get up early, and then Aaron gets up

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01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: too and does all the stuff. But I usually get up,

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Speaker 2: do the first wake up call and then get back

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01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: into bed. Don't sleep. I'm still to read the news

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01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: A little bit. Good I do, and then I get

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01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: up for a second wake up call, and I'm like, guys,

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01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 2: get up, get up, get up, get up. And then

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Speaker 2: I go downstairs and make my coffee.

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Speaker 3: That's like, oh see, I wake up.

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Speaker 1: I do all of that and then I get coffee,

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Speaker 1: and then I come back to bed.

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Speaker 2: You do, yes, I do. Once back in bed, second

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Speaker 2: wake up call, down for coffee.

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Speaker 3: I love these little weird patterns they do.

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01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: Change Make eggs on bags.

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01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: That's what the kids want, eggs on bags.

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01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: Beg it's a Friday on a bag.

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Speaker 3: New favorite thing to cook? Oh, I mean I'm always cooking.

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Speaker 2: I know I haven't even but.

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Speaker 1: I would say my new favorite thing. You know what

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01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: is is zoom zinguini noodles.

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01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I got it. I got a.

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Speaker 1: Thing for my kitchen aid make that makes the zoom guinies,

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Speaker 1: and so I just do them all the time, and

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Speaker 1: I have them and I blanch them and that's and

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Speaker 1: then I have I do my I have pest I

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01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: make pesto, and I make all my sauce and then

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Speaker 1: and then that way I'm eating healthy. I likes My

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01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: other new thing favorite thing to cook is multiple things

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01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: for dinner because the kids love it.

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Speaker 3: So like, I do a lot of things that like

1241
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: have stuff that they.

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Speaker 1: Can like a smorgasboard, so like taco type stuff, and

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01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: I'll do I'll do different meats, right, or I'll do beans,

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01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: three different kinds of beans. You know.

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Speaker 3: I don't like overdo it, but I do a bunch

1246
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Speaker 3: of different things.

1247
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of different flavor and tastes.

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01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 3: And then the kids and have so much fun doing.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Like for instance, there's ways to do

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01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: a lot of good Asian inspired dishes where you do

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01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: like you and then you can do some more store

1252
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: bought stuff, so you seaweed things they can put on it,

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01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: and sesame seeds and pickle stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's good. We should do a cookbook called Smorgasbord.

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Speaker 2: I like a good.

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Speaker 1: A word you keep using lately, there was one that

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01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: I was saying interesting too much. I don't know if

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01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm still saying that.

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01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: I was saying so interesting, gosh, oh, I can't remember,

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01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: but it was this thing I kept saying it, saying it,

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01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: sang it so annoying. I know you get caught on

1262
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: these words, but I don't know what it is now,

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01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: probably like, oh.

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Speaker 3: Oh interesting was the word? Isn't it interesting?

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: It's interesting when you know or I find it so interesting?

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01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: And then I heard someone say say, think about how

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01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: many times you say this word and if that's what

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01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: you're doing, like it basically means you're unintelligent or something, right, yeah, yeah,

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01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, I guess I'm yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: very smart.

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Speaker 3: I keep going back to that word.

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01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know. You're forgetting it, I forget.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't answer. All right, this was fun,

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:59,440
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Speaker 2: executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: Producer is Alison President.

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01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 2: Editor is Josh Wendish.

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