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Speaker 2: used to be. I've been digging into liberal conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 2: That is, they're all the rage where the sky is

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Speaker 2: Donnie Jay's close call in Pennsylvania was a false flag,

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Speaker 2: the Park Service has gone rogue, waging an insurgent information

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Speaker 2: I'm Davis. I'm joined by Mio Wong for our blue

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Speaker 2: on on episode Finally.

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Speaker 3: I never thought. I never thought I would have been

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's only gotten.

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Speaker 4: More stupid right wing terroristualization.

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Speaker 2: It's it's only gonna get more stupid from here.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, this is this is the least stupid.

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Speaker 2: And this is the thing that I realized what doing

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Speaker 2: I get joy out of this, almost no joy. Looking

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Speaker 3: So that's the intro for this episode, Garrison, can I

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Speaker 3: interest you in some of the bespoke shit, none of

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Speaker 3: none of the none of this twenty twenty four elections stolen?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stuff about the CIA and NATO, all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 2: And though like anti vaccine and nine to eleven trutherism

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Speaker 2: Although my cat is named Theodore Katzinski and Kazinsky was

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Speaker 2: A severe fracturing of reality took place. Any conception of

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Speaker 2: we were all going to be pulled into this at

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Speaker 2: a certain point because it's just more interesting. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to quote from one of MIA's favorite books, the CCRU

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy fictions are spun out of an all encompassing narrative

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Speaker 2: One either has to embrace an arbitrary and outrageous cosmic

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Speaker 2: of the double game, on reflective twins belief and unbelief,

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Speaker 2: but disbelief is merely the negative complement of belief. Unquote,

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Speaker 3: I fucking went down that tunnle. I went down the

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Speaker 3: All conspiracies are true, but only about nineteen seventies Italy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is more interesting, and it makes it really

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Speaker 2: It makes it feel like you're submitting to some all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is which which is very funny because the

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Speaker 3: Like conspiracies had been encouraged by the government, by governments

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Speaker 2: The US government has intentionally stoked UFO conspiracy theories for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it covers up the thing. You know, if

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Speaker 2: Like Now, the CCRU proposes that quote unquote, unbelief might

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Speaker 2: The pedu elite are always just about to be arrested

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Speaker 2: Wiggle's way out of this jam. The logic of QAnon

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Speaker 2: has perforated almost every aspect of American politics. On Blue Sky,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that's what they believe. Do you know what

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Speaker 2: isn't a conspiracy theory? Maya that advertisement is designed to

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Speaker 2: drive consumer demand repledged capitalism by replacing your desires. Not

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Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory. That's just the good old truth. Listen

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Speaker 2: to these ads. All right, we're back. As QAnon itself

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Speaker 2: became a uber conspiracy theory overtime liking together a large

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Speaker 2: blue QAnon to describe Portland liberals who believed that Russia

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Speaker 3: Censorship regime continues apace.

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Speaker 3: There's no such thing as getting old. There is simply

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Speaker 2: Now, the bluenon term here is sort of a misnomer

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Speaker 2: declaring quote QAnon and blue and on rhyme. The similarities

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Speaker 2: in the wake of like January sixth, Right, Blunon doesn't

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Speaker 2: need to. No, In conspiracy theories, it's not just about

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Speaker 2: the attempted assassination of one Donald Trump. Americans are particularly

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Speaker 2: the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. But that's another episode.

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Speaker 2: Here's a viral Facebook video, Remember Facebook, No.

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Speaker 4: It's not that bad.

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Speaker 5: Take a look at what happened.

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Speaker 6: Fake a shit man stage, fake a shit bo ain't

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Speaker 6: no bullets plying in that. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: wan thing about a shootout. Soon a shootout, you will

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Speaker 6: never going on, never getting hit, nothing getting piled though

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Speaker 6: he definitely ain't get hit. He faked it all. The

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Speaker 6: didn't play, y'all, They gonna make y'all vote on now

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Speaker 6: if the dump you feel me? Oh, y'all, oh he oh,

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Speaker 6: he been shot in they'll all going on to vote

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Speaker 6: on y'all.

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Speaker 3: Some fucking clowns.

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Speaker 5: Buh.

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Speaker 2: The word staged spiked in use by almost four thousand

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Speaker 2: three hundred thousand times the day of and after the shooting.

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Speaker 2: The term inside job also rose on social media, up

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Speaker 2: great quality. No Secret Service agent in front of his

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Speaker 2: There was a flood of posts, earning thousands of likes

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Speaker 2: And while it could have been possible that there was

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Speaker 2: up after it was confirmed that Crooks was killed. You

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Speaker 2: can hear it in the video Shoot her Down, Shoot

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Speaker 2: Her Down. Secret Service was already aware of Crook's position

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Speaker 2: possible shooters. But reality does not matter here. I'm going

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Speaker 7: Now, ladies and gentlemen, I normally don't go down conspiracy holes.

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Speaker 7: I don't, but we know MAGA does. MAGA has gone

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Speaker 7: down so many conspiracy holes and brought it to science

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Speaker 7: that We've got people not giving their kids vaccine. We've

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Speaker 7: This video was someone who was right there at the

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Speaker 7: it was anyway, because we do know that Trump he's

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Speaker 7: And I'll show you an example of that in a minute.

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Speaker 2: What example do you think he's going to show a

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Speaker 2: Well we'll get to that in this sect. But I

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Speaker 2: is just almost almost acknowledging this fact. He's kind of

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Speaker 3: This guy sponsored by an AI company, just just to

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Speaker 3: make this absolutely perfect. Great stuff, great stuff happening in

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Speaker 2: But yes, based on the blood severed across Trump's face

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Speaker 2: E style to purposefully cut his face to make it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Donald Trump bladed himself. What are we doing here?

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Speaker 7: So should we believe that faking getting shot is beyond them?

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Speaker 7: Why would we believe that when this is still Trump

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Speaker 7: that once was trained by the ww whatn't those some

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Speaker 8: Were the least convincing right hands I've ever seen, and

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Speaker 2: You know what, I think We've saw this whole assassination

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Speaker 2: Debunking is useless, right Yeah. All of these conspiracy theories

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Speaker 2: Also, this was actually Trump loyalist police firing into the

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Speaker 2: Thomas Crooks. After the shooting, a political advisor to Democratic

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Speaker 2: encouraged and maybe even staged so Trump could get the

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Speaker 2: photos and benefit from the backlash unquote. The next day,

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Speaker 2: Melhorn regretted and apologized for sending the email, and think

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Speaker 2: about it. While one person was lined up perfectly to

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Speaker 2: get the now historic photo, think of how many other

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Speaker 2: professional photographers at the rally weren't so lucky. There's not

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Speaker 2: just one photographer at the event, there's lots, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: one person got a really compelling shot.

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Speaker 8: It's a campaign event. There's paid photographers there. This is

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Speaker 8: what I get paid event is Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: There was a flag that was stayed because it was

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Speaker 3: a campaign event.

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Speaker 4: Going insane.

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Speaker 2: According to a pull from Morning Consult, roughly one in

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Speaker 2: five voters said that they found it credible that the

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Speaker 2: shooting was staged and not intended to kill Trump, including

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Speaker 2: one third of at the time Biden's supporters, thirty three

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Speaker 2: percent of Biden supporters, and twelve percent of those who

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Speaker 2: back Trump, which is really funny to me.

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Speaker 3: That's actually really funny.

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Speaker 4: It was an inside job. Good job, guys, good job.

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Speaker 2: The mega Trump assassination. Truthers of the majority of voters,

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Speaker 2: though sixty two percent, said that the unsubstantiated notion is

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Speaker 2: not credible. A statement I've seen from both the conspiratorial

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Speaker 2: left and the right is that we know all about

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00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 2: say Luigi Mangioni or this latest school shooter, but still

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Speaker 2: know nothing about the Trump assassination. And this just isn't true.

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00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: We actually know a lot about Thomas Crooks. Now, just

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00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: because you haven't read about it doesn't mean that we

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Speaker 2: don't know. I'll link to a recent New York Times

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Speaker 2: article looking into his online footprint. We know a lot

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Speaker 2: about this guy, yep. But based on the conception that

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Speaker 2: this failed assassination attempt would in the end helped Trump

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Speaker 2: get elected, some people chose to just reject the event entirely.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it was surreal, a warped manifestation of millions

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Speaker 2: of people's dream And when things happen that challenge expectations

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Speaker 2: or are just plain weird, some people reject that reality

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Speaker 2: and substitute to their own alternate realities, which make more

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Speaker 2: sense to them. If a near miss event like this

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Speaker 2: would help Trump, then it must be Trump's doing. Do

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Speaker 2: you know what Trump has no control over?

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Speaker 3: It's so not true that he doesn't have control of

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Speaker 3: these products and services. We have good report I got

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Speaker 3: is his Increasingly.

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Speaker 2: The tariffs aren't real, be a. I won't believe the

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Speaker 2: tariffs until I see them with my own two eyes.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to walk you to the port

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Speaker 3: of LA. Are gonna go look at the tariffs together?

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Speaker 3: Why inside?

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Speaker 2: So here's the ads. All right, we're back. You can't

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Speaker 2: talk about liberal conspiracy theories without the most blatant example

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Speaker 2: of some libs taking a page right out of the megaplaybook.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four election denial God another instance of Trump

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Speaker 2: and QAnon trailblazing something that used to be on the

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Speaker 2: political fringe and normalizing it as acceptable political discourse. Early on,

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Speaker 2: after Trump was declared the projected winner, liberals questioned why

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Speaker 2: there were seemingly twenty million missing Democratic votes from the

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Speaker 2: expected twenty twenty four totals, pointing to the higher numbers

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Speaker 2: than twenty twenty forgetting that vote totals were still being

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Speaker 2: counted and in the end, there were only three million

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Speaker 2: fewer votes this election, which is extremely reasonable for an election.

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Speaker 2: According to NewsGuard by Wednesday morning after the election, Trump

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Speaker 2: cheated was trending on Twitter with nearly one hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: mentions since midnight. I'll read a few of these viral

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Speaker 2: tweets quote, I hold a master's degree in political science.

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Speaker 2: I don't yet understand these results, and I don't pretend to.

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Speaker 2: I'm not into conspiracy, but I'd like to know. Did

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Speaker 2: millions across Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan really split their vote? Did

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Speaker 2: millions of Democratic voters really stay home? And the answer

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Speaker 2: is yes, yes they did.

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Speaker 4: That is what happened. You figured it out.

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Speaker 2: People did split their vote, and yeah, lots of people

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Speaker 2: were not compelled to vote for Harris and stayed home. Congratulations,

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Speaker 2: you stumbled across the reality.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Another person remarked, quote, I hold a master's again. I

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Speaker 2: love all these people prefacing this by saying that they

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Speaker 2: have degrees.

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Speaker 3: And I want to say two things about the degree thing.

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Speaker 3: One eighty percent of the time when someone starts doing

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Speaker 3: what are these things, you can go back and find

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Speaker 3: different degrees they pretended have. Two. I have been around

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Speaker 3: people who get master's degrees in political science. We are

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Speaker 3: not talking about the cream of the intellectual crop here like,

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00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: this is a discipline that is like economics for people

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00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: who like or even worse at the chain rule than economists.

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Speaker 3: Like what are we doing here?

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Speaker 4: Quote?

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Speaker 2: I hold a master's and political science with a minor

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Speaker 2: in statistics, and I can't make sense of this. Human

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Speaker 2: nature had to completely upend itself for this to happen.

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Speaker 2: Swing states voting straight blue down the ballot except for

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Speaker 2: the top. Nah, that's not what people do, and yet

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Speaker 2: it is what happened.

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Speaker 4: Average political science. This is hinged for them, so very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Liberals demanded recounts and court challenges, begging that Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: take this to court, with misinformation spreading that she was

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Speaker 2: planning said court challenges. Others alleged that Elon Musk hacked

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Speaker 2: voting machines. According to a report from the University of Washington,

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Speaker 2: over a five day period, there were hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 2: of tweets and retweets about how Elon Musk, working with

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Speaker 2: Trump and sometimes with Putin, used Starlink satellites to steal

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Speaker 2: the election, perhaps by intercepting then changing vote totals through

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Speaker 2: the Internet. Despite most voting machines not being connected to

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Speaker 2: the Internet.

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Speaker 3: No, and the actual thing that he did was like

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Speaker 3: going to places and saying, I'll give you a million

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Speaker 3: dollars if you vote for this election, one of you

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Speaker 3: will win. Like that's like the actual thing that he did,

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Speaker 3: which is so blatantly obvious.

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Speaker 2: And like basic, like ground game targeting and swing states, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they mobilized a shit ton of money. Quote I'm hearing

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Speaker 2: today that Elon's software Starship is the software that handled

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Speaker 2: all the swing state ballots. If indeed this is true,

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Speaker 2: this is clearly a conflict of interest and another reason

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Speaker 2: why swing states need investigations. Well, good news, this isn't

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00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: indeed true.

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Speaker 4: You made this up.

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00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: This is fake.

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Speaker 4: It's not just Twitter though.

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Speaker 2: On Meta's Twitter alternative threads, there was a hotbed of

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Speaker 2: election denile, with posts like this spreading on the platform

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Speaker 2: and beyond to places like Reddit. Quote Trump cheats at

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Speaker 2: everything in life. Putin interfered in the past three elections.

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Speaker 2: Musk and Trump talked to Putin a lot. Musk's Starlink

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Speaker 2: uploaded votes in swing states. Swing state voters went DEM

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Speaker 2: down ballot, but Trump at the top. Unlikely Starlink satellites explode,

563
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: destroying evidence quote. This is referencing a conspiracy theory from

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Speaker 2: the time that based on an event on November tenth

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Speaker 2: where a Starlink satellite re entered orbit and blew up,

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Speaker 2: as Elon Musk's technology is known to do. This was

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Speaker 2: itself proof that he was blowing up his satellites on

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Speaker 2: purpose to conceal evidence that Starlink was used to alter

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Speaker 2: election results. SpaceX regularly retires satellites which then slowly fall

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Speaker 2: to Earth and blow up.

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Speaker 4: This is ordinary practice.

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Speaker 2: This particular satellite, which exploded on November tenth was decommissioned

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Speaker 2: back in August. This has nothing to do with the election. Still,

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Speaker 2: there were viral tweets calling for a quote unquote forensic

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Speaker 2: investigation and accounts like your n on News, an account

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00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: pretending to be affiliated with the hacker group Anonymous, which

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Speaker 2: is a real vector point of left wing conspiratorial thinking.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to put a note here, Butz says that

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Speaker 3: the history of relationship if your n on News is

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Speaker 3: very compl this is not. This is not a definitive

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Speaker 3: statement on it. Please don't get mad at us. It's

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Speaker 3: a it's a fucking mess. It's a fucking mess. That's

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Speaker 3: that's what I'm gonna say about it, that guy sucks shit.

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Speaker 2: They've been spreading a lot of election misinformation news, especially

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Speaker 2: in November.

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Speaker 4: Quote.

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Speaker 2: Some strange statements from Trump and Elon have fueled doubts

588
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Speaker 2: about election integrity. You can just change one line of code,

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00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: Elon stated about the code on electronic voting machines. I

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Speaker 2: don't need more votes. I already have votes, Trump stated repeatedly,

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Speaker 2: So why not take a look.

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Speaker 3: Unquote.

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Speaker 2: This alleged quote from Elon cannot be sourced at all.

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Speaker 2: The full version of it is quote if you want

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Speaker 2: to steal an election, all you have to do is

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00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: change one line of code unquote. I have tried so

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Speaker 2: hard to find the original source for this quote. I cannot.

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Speaker 2: It is just liberals saying Elon said this. It may

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Speaker 2: have been something said, I cannot find it. Even if

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Speaker 2: it is something he said. There's not evidence that he

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Speaker 2: stole the election, no at all.

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Speaker 4: He does this like that.

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Speaker 3: There's there's a whole conspiracy on the left that thinks

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Speaker 3: that Elon Musk was behind the coup in Bolivia, which

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Speaker 3: was like something I was accepted by Evo back when

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Speaker 3: he was in the NIS. Like in Bolivia, because it

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00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: was like politically convenient for everyone involved to believe that

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Speaker 3: like Elon Musk did this coup in Bolivia over like

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Speaker 3: lithium prices, when the actual reality was it was done

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Speaker 3: by a bunch of Bolivia agrobarons. But people just believe

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Speaker 3: this shit, and and and and Elon will just play

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00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: into it, even like because I don't he probably didn't

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Speaker 3: say that, but like even if he did, like he

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Speaker 3: did say the ship that he did the coup in Bolivia,

615
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Speaker 3: but like he didn't, he objectively didn't LOLXD like I

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Speaker 3: I okay, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: get into the price history of of lithium here and

618
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Speaker 3: how there was a fucking market glut at that point,

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Speaker 3: which is the exact opposite thing you would want there

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Speaker 3: to be if you're trying to steal lithius.

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Speaker 4: Like it's nonsense.

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Speaker 3: So people just leave this ship because it fits, it

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Speaker 3: fits their version of reality. And the right is really

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Speaker 3: happy to sort of play into this because they just

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00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: play around with conspiracies.

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Speaker 2: And this line from Trump is just breaking about having

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Speaker 2: a lot of projected votes already, That's all it is. Yeah,

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00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: the day before Inauguration day, people alleged that Trump may

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Speaker 2: have accidentally admitted to stealing the election in one of

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Speaker 2: his speeches.

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Speaker 3: Oh my fucking god, let's take a look.

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Speaker 2: Trump just told them himself.

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Speaker 9: He just credited Elon Musk's knowledge of how voting machines

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Speaker 9: work for his victory in Pennsylvania. He said this during

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Speaker 9: his victory rally in Washington, d C. The night before

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Speaker 9: the alleged inauguration. Let's listen to the audio.

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Speaker 3: And then he.

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Speaker 5: Journeyed to Pennsylvania, where he spent like a month and

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Speaker 5: a half campaigning for me in Pennsylvania. And he's a

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Speaker 5: popular guy, and he was very effective, and he knows

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Speaker 5: those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote

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Speaker 5: counting computers, and we ended up Pennsylvania like in a landslide,

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Speaker 5: so that it was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: He was pretty good.

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Speaker 7: So thank you to Elon.

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Speaker 2: That is from a very popular TikToker. This particular video

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Speaker 2: has twenty thousand likes. I can't even find how many

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Speaker 2: views it has, but there's hundreds of comments talking about

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Speaker 2: how the election was stolen. The same video was spread

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Speaker 2: by people like a friend of the pod Brooklyn Dad Defiant.

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Speaker 3: Oh literally, God fucking Okay, I need to spend five seconds.

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Speaker 2: No, we don't have time.

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Speaker 3: He's literally paid by a Democratic party. He used to

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Speaker 3: be Yeah, he used to be literally paid a Democratic party.

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Speaker 3: He was a fucking oil guy. Fuck god, damn it. Sorry, Okay,

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Speaker 3: but he said quote. Is that a fucking confession?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Twenty three thousand likes? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Which?

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Speaker 2: Now this line from Trump gets referenced a lot in

661
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Speaker 2: liberal stolen election theories. Trump is not saying he won

662
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Speaker 2: because Elon knows the vote counting computers. Those two statements

663
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Speaker 2: can be separate statements that are just right next to

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Speaker 2: each other. More, it could be easily interpreted as saying

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Speaker 2: that Elon Musk's computer knowledge helped prevent fraud, ensuring that

666
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Speaker 2: if Dems tried to steal the election again, Elon would

667
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Speaker 2: have caught them. As twenty twenty Republican election denile focused

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Speaker 2: heavily on voting machines. In terms of numbers on how

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Speaker 2: many Democrats don't think the election was legitimate, we do

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Speaker 2: have some statistics. In twenty twenty, eighty eight percent of

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Speaker 2: Democrats thought the election was legitimate and accurate. In twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, it was only sixty three percent, with nine

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Speaker 2: percent saying it was the result of illegal voting or

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Speaker 2: election rigging, and twenty nine percent saying they don't know

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Speaker 2: if it was legitimate or accurate. Of course, the Republicans

676
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Speaker 2: found this election was extremely legitimate as compared to the

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Speaker 2: last one, in which a majority of Republicans thought it

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Speaker 2: was the result of illegal voting or election rigging. But

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Speaker 2: still twenty nine percent of Democrats in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: not knowing if the election is accurate pretty pretty damage,

681
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Speaker 2: And obviously a lack of trust and election systems is

682
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Speaker 2: an extremely damaging thing to the functioning of democracy. The

683
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Speaker 2: reason why I decided to finally do this episode after

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Speaker 2: pulling little research bits over the course of the past year,

685
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Speaker 2: is a tweet from August twentieth quote two whistleblowers have

686
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Speaker 2: now confirmed that the NSSA conducted an election audit and

687
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Speaker 2: Harris was the winner. Don't fucking ignore this. One hundred

688
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Speaker 2: and forty six thousand likes, almost thirty thousand retweets, five

689
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Speaker 2: point five million quote unquote views. This went super viral,

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest instances I've seen in recent election denial.

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Speaker 2: This viral tweet links to a substack with over fifty

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Speaker 2: one thousand subscribers and three million views. The focus of

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Speaker 2: the blog is showing how Kamala Harris really won the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four election. The recent post cover how a

695
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Speaker 2: former CIA operative has confirmed that, based on an NSA

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Speaker 2: audit of the twenty twenty four election, Kamala actually won.

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Speaker 2: This was a quote covert compartmentalized forensic audit unquote.

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Speaker 4: It's literally just stop the steal. They did this same thing.

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Speaker 2: It was completed in December twenty twenty four, and based

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Speaker 2: on the findings, the NSSA and CIA recommended a hand recount,

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Speaker 2: but the recount was unable to take place before the

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Speaker 2: January sixth election certification, and since then the findings of

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Speaker 2: the audit proving a KAMMLA victory have been covered up

704
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Speaker 2: by Tulci, Gabbard and the Trump administration. This blog claims

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Speaker 2: the election was stolen by hijacking voting machines and quote

706
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Speaker 2: illegally copied software, decades of vulnerabilities, and the installation of

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Speaker 2: a back door through a last minute change order right

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Speaker 2: before the election unquote. Now there's a few problems with

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Speaker 2: this theory, the first at which being that the NSSA

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Speaker 2: does an audit election no.

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Speaker 5: What.

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Speaker 2: This substacker also operates a still growing TikTok account to

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Speaker 2: prevent being suppressed from misinformation. The user talks in coded phrases,

714
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Speaker 2: calling elections baking contests. State election results are either red

715
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Speaker 2: cakes or blue cakes.

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Speaker 3: Boats are ingredients.

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Speaker 2: Christ In her most popular video with about seventy five

718
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Speaker 2: thousand views, she claims that Trump isn't giving red swing

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Speaker 2: states FEMA AID because he knows that these states actually

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Speaker 2: voted for Kamala Harris and so Trump is punishing them

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Speaker 2: by withholding aid. This is her second most popular video

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Speaker 2: with fifty thousand views, talking about North Carolina and how

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk and Peter Thiel worked together to alter election results.

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Speaker 10: Hey y'all, quick update on the baking contest in North

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Speaker 10: Kakilaki and the cake is in fact who We were

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Speaker 10: able to identify about one hundred and ninety seven thousand

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Speaker 10: ingredients that were swapped out by the space baker, So

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Speaker 10: he and his friend whose name rhymes with seal have

729
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Speaker 10: been up to some interesting things when it comes to

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Speaker 10: these baking contests. So the surveillance Seal and the space

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Speaker 10: Baker doing some doing some interesting baking. So we need

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Speaker 10: you to let your media friends know and let all

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Speaker 10: your let all the people know. We're going to do

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Speaker 10: an email campaign next week, because that seems to be

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Speaker 10: how we get this done. We do have avenues to

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Speaker 10: undo this unholy mess, and just hold on to your hope.

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Speaker 10: Run over to my friends at the ATE and of

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Speaker 10: course the Common Coalition. Check out the report. We have

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Speaker 10: more to report on all of the baking contests that

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Speaker 10: we're working on. We're still digging. We got more to

741
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Speaker 10: go and blue skies ahead, y'all.

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Speaker 3: There's something specifically uniquely horrifying about the way that like

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Speaker 3: just the sort of TikTok language of sewer side or

744
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 3: whatever like that people say like that kind of shit.

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Speaker 2: This stuff just makes me really sad. No, it's it's

746
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: so like I can't have fun with this anymore.

747
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Speaker 3: Oh God, damn it.

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Speaker 2: The same thing when I was watching some of the

749
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Speaker 2: trump asassination videos, when I realized this is just from

750
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Speaker 2: people who are unwell, and I can't even have fun

751
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Speaker 2: with this. And that is also the case with a

752
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: lot of Q and on stuff. You should be really

753
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: careful about how much joy you take in the suffering

754
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Speaker 2: of people and people displaying their suffering on the Internet

755
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Speaker 2: by engaging in this stuff. But yeah, this stuff's just

756
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: really sad. Like in other videos, she's pleading with her

757
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: followers to contact their state governors to convince them to

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Speaker 2: change all the voting machines because they've been compromised. And

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Speaker 2: I'll play one more video before we close the episode,

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Speaker 2: I says over thirty two thousand views. She talks about

761
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Speaker 2: Trump using tariffs as leverage to get countries to sign

762
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: deals with Elon Musk's Starlink satellites, which will then be

763
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Speaker 2: used to control elections worldwide. And the only way to

764
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Speaker 2: stop this is to impeach Trump and put Kamala in

765
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Speaker 2: the White House since she is the rightful winner of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 10: They take from their constituents now to address the Space Cadet,

768
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 10: And how look at what he launched last year in

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Speaker 10: record time ten months, this low orbit DTC constellation. And

770
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 10: look at what they're doing with the countries around the world.

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Speaker 10: To get your tariffs removed, you have to sign a

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Speaker 10: contract with the Space Cadet. Hello, this is not about

773
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 10: any kind of like you know, internet in the rural areas,

774
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 10: blah blah blah, nothing about this is to be nice. No,

775
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 10: it is to control future contests. The US was not

776
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 10: the endgame. It was the litmus test. So we can

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00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 10: get out of this. We have constitutional avenues to get

778
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 10: out of this situation, but we need Congress to act,

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00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 10: and Congress won't act until the American people know what happened.

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Speaker 10: And they're not going to know what happened until our

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Speaker 10: influencers and our media handle the situation. So Rachel Mattow, please,

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Speaker 10: Lawrence minus touched, for heaven's sake, minus touched. You guys,

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00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 10: four million people, you could be blasting this out and

784
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 10: letting the American people know what happened. Do your jobs, please,

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Speaker 10: so we can get the rightful people in the House

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Speaker 10: that they belong in, the big white one.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the things that makes me so

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Speaker 3: insane about these is that, like, if you're actually, I

789
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Speaker 3: guess Garrison, you weren't around for this. But like I've

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Speaker 3: legitimately have lived through two attempts to steal an election, right,

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Speaker 3: Like there was two thousand, which the Republicans just stole

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Speaker 3: and then yeah, Donald Trump did try to steal the

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Speaker 3: election in twenty twenty, but he did it by having

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Speaker 3: people try to form mobs outside of polling places and

795
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Speaker 3: then like his supporters did January. That's a real thing.

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Speaker 3: But the thing about these conspiracies is like they they

797
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Speaker 3: devour reality. They they they consume it and strip it

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Speaker 3: for its constituent parts. Which is why you see so many,

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Speaker 3: like you know, used to see so many conspiracies that

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Speaker 3: would you know if if you look at their giant

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Speaker 3: conspiracy charts. They're talking about like the structure of the

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Speaker 3: World Bank and the IMF, and like that's that's where

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Speaker 3: the Builderberg group stuff comes out of, right, they love charts.

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00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: The Builder group stuff is then taking the real structure

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Speaker 3: of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank and

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Speaker 3: then you know, devouring that structure and spinning back out conspiracy.

807
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: And that that's what these things do. They take They

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Speaker 3: take real things that happen in the world and just

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Speaker 3: devour them and turn them into just nothing. And it

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Speaker 3: makes it harder to act because like, yeah, we do

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Speaker 3: live in a world where the Republican Party has like

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00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: attempted to or successfully did fel to elections, but not

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Speaker 3: this one.

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Speaker 2: And if this is your mode of resistance of hashtag

815
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: resistance against Trump, that's useless. It's completely useless. It's not

816
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: actually managing any of the effects of Trump on people

817
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: like ICE, like attacks on career people. It's this fully contained,

818
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Speaker 2: non non form of fighting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like like you see you see this, you

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Speaker 3: see this too on the left of CIA stuff, where

821
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Speaker 3: it's like everyone is convinced that like the person they're

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Speaker 3: arguing with on Twitter like is the CIA, and that

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Speaker 3: the way that you combat CIA influences by like spreading

824
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Speaker 3: I don't know, posting pro asage shit. And it's like

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Speaker 3: that's not actually substantively combating the influence of the CIA.

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Speaker 3: It just feels like it is, and that structure of

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Speaker 3: feeling is so powerful that it prevents you from doing

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Speaker 3: actual action.

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Speaker 2: There has been this new conspiracy theory getting traction on

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Speaker 2: Blue Sky a lot that the masked people engaged in

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Speaker 2: Immigration enforcement ICE aren't actually ICE agents. They're secretly quote

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Speaker 2: j sixers, bounty hunters or thugs, oathkeepers, proud boys. It's

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Speaker 2: a big assumption to even say they're federal agents. They're

834
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Speaker 2: not identified. We have no idea who they are. Could

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Speaker 2: be proud boys or oath keepers or three percenters unquote.

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Speaker 2: This is trying to push the blame away from the

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Speaker 2: US government who is engaging in this action Ice onto

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Speaker 2: these non state actors, which people in their mind think

839
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Speaker 2: are easier targets. And it's just a completely misunderstanding of power,

840
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Speaker 2: and it's a misunderstanding of their current political situation, and

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Speaker 2: it gives you no no ability to actually stop the

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00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: bad things ICE are doing. But I've seen this theory

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00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: gain a lot of traction online.

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Speaker 3: And in the same way that QAnon is a product

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Speaker 3: of the cognitive dissonance of Trump supporters having to grapple

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Speaker 3: the fact that the trumpet that their god king is

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Speaker 3: in power and their lives still suck. This is this

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Speaker 3: specific one is a product of the cognitive dissonance of

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00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: like the fact that these people all supported ICE when

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Speaker 3: Biden was the Biden was the run running it, when

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Speaker 3: like Biden and fucking did his executive order to shut

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00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: the border down, right, but Kumboombiden was like doing consration

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Speaker 3: camps in the desert. They were all pro ICE. And

854
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Speaker 3: then they suddenly have to deal with the world where

855
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Speaker 3: ICE is doing an ethnic cleansing and they can't process that,

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Speaker 3: And so the way that they attempt to cope with

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Speaker 3: it is being like, well, that's actually not the real ice.

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Speaker 3: That's like J six Proud Boys.

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Speaker 2: It's a groper occupied government. They're sending out coded messages

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Speaker 2: on Twitter. Yeah, it's the same thing me and you

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Speaker 2: did the episode about a few weeks ago in our

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Speaker 2: dog Whistle Politics and the Hunt for Coded Nazi Messaging episode.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, And though some Democratic voters are engaging in

864
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Speaker 2: election denial, I think one key difference from twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: Republican election denial is that liberal election officials have as

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Speaker 2: of yet not been willing to participate in this rhetoric

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Speaker 2: openly or pursue these baseless fraud accusations. This is still

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Speaker 2: one difference, But I think it's a ticking clock. I

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Speaker 2: think it's only a matter of time, especially once we

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Speaker 2: see the midterms, that people running for office debt Democrats

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Speaker 2: might start embracing some kind of wing nutty stuff the

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Speaker 2: same way Marjora Taylor Green, Trojan Horst wing nutty politics

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Speaker 2: other representatives being able to engage in conspiratorial thought on

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Speaker 2: the right. There's going to be a few instances of this.

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Speaker 2: I think in the next mid term election for Democrats.

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Speaker 2: It's something to keep an eye out for because I

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Speaker 2: think it's only a matter of time. Like what I

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Speaker 2: mentioned in that CCR you quote, mundane reality is going

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Speaker 2: to lose because this stuff is just more interesting. People

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Speaker 2: are going to try to buy it and it requires

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Speaker 2: constant pushback That doesn't for part one. But there's going

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Speaker 2: to be another episode tomorrow where I talk with Jack

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Speaker 2: of the Alt watcher Blue Sky account to discuss the

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Speaker 2: latest evolution of blue and on and possibly the most

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Speaker 2: Q and on the extension of blue and On we've

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Speaker 2: seen yet the Alt National Park Service and their coded

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Speaker 2: messages being sent out on Blue Sky and Facebook. So

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Speaker 2: stay tuned for that tomorrow, and remember you are not

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Speaker 2: immune to propaganda.

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