WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Extra Terrestrial Visitors

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema Rewind.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Rob Lamb and I am Joe McCormick, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course a Weird House Cinema Rewind comes from the

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<v Speaker 2>vault of Weird House Cinema. This was originally published on

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<v Speaker 2>September sixteenth, twenty twenty two, and it is our episode

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<v Speaker 2>on Extraterrestrial Visitors aka pod People.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. This one, of course is a film that was

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<v Speaker 1>featured on Mystery Science Theater three thousand back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day and is a richly enjoyable movie on its own.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the issues in this episode back when

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<v Speaker 1>we recorded it is of course that we did not

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<v Speaker 1>have great film quality to go off of the best.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the best quality available was pretty grubby. We

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<v Speaker 1>complain about it a bit in the episode. But then

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<v Speaker 1>something magical happened. In the months following our release of

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<v Speaker 1>the original episode, several films put out an excellent restored

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<v Speaker 1>Blu ray edition of Extraterrestrial Visitors. I found out about

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<v Speaker 1>it months later ordered up a copy of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>have now viewed it and I have to say it

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<v Speaker 1>is beautiful. If you find any if you find anything

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<v Speaker 1>in this film beautiful, you will find this restored version

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<v Speaker 1>of it beautiful. You can actually make out details that

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<v Speaker 1>are lost otherwise. Like, for instance, there's the character that

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<v Speaker 1>has the I'm a Virgin T shirt. Well, now you

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<v Speaker 1>can read all the details on that shirt and see

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a Virgin Islands tourist T shirt. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>full story there. And just in general, like everything's in

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<v Speaker 1>just a richer quality. There's still a certain level of

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<v Speaker 1>grubbiness just because it is still, you know, a Spanish

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<v Speaker 1>genre picture of the nineteen eighties. But man, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fun package. So I highly recommend it to anyone out

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<v Speaker 1>there who is a fan of extraterrestrial visitors, Spanish genre films,

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<v Speaker 1>or or of course if you're an MST completist and

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<v Speaker 1>you want a nice copy of this beloved film. And

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<v Speaker 1>one more thing, it also has a CD in it

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<v Speaker 1>that has the soundtrack on it, which which isn't much.

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<v Speaker 1>It has, you know, just a few of the synthy

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<v Speaker 1>bits that you hear, and then also that terrible pop

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<v Speaker 1>song that they're recording in the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, hear the engines roar now, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I actually got the experience of finding my

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<v Speaker 1>car's CD drive putting that CD in there, rolling down

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<v Speaker 1>all the windows and then you know, tearing around town

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<v Speaker 1>with that's with that song blasting.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you feel the wind in your eyes?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, felt the wind right in my eyes. All

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<v Speaker 1>systems will go, all right, let's jump right in.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 2>This is right, and this is Joe McCormick, and we.

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<v Speaker 1>Are going to the year nineteen eighty three for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be discussing a film that has many names.

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<v Speaker 1>Its primary title in the United States is Extraterrestrial Visitors,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is also widely known to Mystery Science Theater

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand fans as pod People.

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<v Speaker 2>Strangely, that title has nothing to do with the contents

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<v Speaker 2>of the movie and makes it sound like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>ripoff of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, when in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a ripoff of ET but with much grizzlier elements.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's. My rough understanding of this film is that

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<v Speaker 1>it may have originally started as your basic killer creature

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods sort of fair, but this is the

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<v Speaker 1>year after ET. Cute aliens being befriended by children is

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<v Speaker 1>big business, and so this gets folded into the plot.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's one of these films that, much like the

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<v Speaker 1>much like the film Grimlins, it's totally inconsistent, Like one

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<v Speaker 1>second it's doing cute stuff and the next second it

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<v Speaker 1>is in horror mode. And at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>by the end of the film, you're you're left wondering, like,

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<v Speaker 1>who is this for? Like, there are parts of this

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<v Speaker 1>film that I would show my child. There are other

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<v Speaker 1>parts that I would not show them. There are there

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of human characters I would not expose them to

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<v Speaker 1>in this Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say even the cute stuff in this movie is grotesque.

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<v Speaker 2>The scenes with Tommy, the child and his alien friend,

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<v Speaker 2>like playing around and doing telekinesis parties in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the bedroom and making like the toys dance on the

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<v Speaker 2>ceiling and stuff. Something about that is its own kind

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<v Speaker 2>of horror, even though I don't think that part is

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<v Speaker 2>intended to be scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I thought it was delightful. Tommy is absolute goodness

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<v Speaker 1>and sweetness, and so is Trumpy. Trumpy is the name

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<v Speaker 1>that Tommy gives to the childlike alien who comes into

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<v Speaker 1>his life.

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<v Speaker 2>So so in a way, this movie is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the tradition of all the movies where a

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<v Speaker 2>child befriends a benevolent, fantastical being, you think about the

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<v Speaker 2>movie that was the direct inspiration for at least half

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<v Speaker 2>of this, Spielberg's et came out the year before. But

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<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, I think you can think of

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<v Speaker 2>this as part of a subgenre of though it's not

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<v Speaker 2>exactly correct in this movie, because the horror is being

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<v Speaker 2>done by just other aliens that look identical to the

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<v Speaker 2>one he's befriended, but it's part of the subgenre of

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<v Speaker 2>child to be friends a deadly monster movies, like I

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<v Speaker 2>think one of the core prototypes here is the original

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty one Frankenstein, The Universal Monster Movie, where there

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<v Speaker 2>is a pivotal scene highlighting the creature's moral innocence as

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<v Speaker 2>well as his destructive power. After the creature escapes Frankenstein's lab,

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<v Speaker 2>he wanders the countryside where he encounters a child and

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<v Speaker 2>the creature, being innocent and childlike himself, they play games

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<v Speaker 2>together and they throw flowers in a lake until the

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<v Speaker 2>creature accidentally kills the child while in the midst of

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<v Speaker 2>a game because he doesn't understand cause and effect and

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't understand his own strength. And it's that's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of what makes Frankenstein more of a grotesque tragedy than

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<v Speaker 2>a movie about a sidistic evil monster. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that's exactly the case in Pod almost called it

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<v Speaker 2>pod people extraterrestrial visitors. It's I'm not sure if this

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<v Speaker 2>movie was trying to say anything about like the moral

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<v Speaker 2>complexity of the beings in the relationship to humans. The

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<v Speaker 2>child that in the movie does often say they just

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<v Speaker 2>want to be our friends. Yet we do see the

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<v Speaker 2>aliens totally unprovoked to just attacking humans.

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<v Speaker 1>I do well, I don't know if they're completely unprovoked.

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<v Speaker 1>Now to come back to Frankenstein, and I think Frankenstein

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<v Speaker 1>is a great comparison here because the other aspect of Frankenstein,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is president in the novel too, is that

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<v Speaker 1>Frankenstein in Frankenstein's Monster rather and you can call him Frankenstein.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's fine, we checked, he's cool with it. The

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<v Speaker 1>monster encounters a humanity that is hostile to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>that fosters hostility, that fosters this this grudge against both

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<v Speaker 1>his creator uh and the creator's fellow human beings, and

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<v Speaker 1>so in this film, we kind of see the same

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<v Speaker 1>duality Like this, we also see that Frankenstein, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the with the child encountering the child or encountering

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<v Speaker 1>the blind man. Because we have these two aliens and

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<v Speaker 1>they both have they have different experiences with the humans

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<v Speaker 1>they encounter. The first alien encounters poachers and hunters and

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<v Speaker 1>vile band members and so forth. Like the first his

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<v Speaker 1>first encounters with humans are all murderous. Meanwhile, the second,

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<v Speaker 1>younger alien, his first encounter is Tommy, and Tommy like

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<v Speaker 1>hatches him from an egg. Tommy is nice to him

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<v Speaker 1>and feeds him and and they venture off to a

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<v Speaker 1>world of whimsy with each other. Where the other one,

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<v Speaker 1>the murderous alien, has none of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think I see what you're saying. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>even though the other alien does like just randomly attack

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<v Speaker 2>like innocent people, like in a bathroom or in an RV,

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<v Speaker 2>it is because the other alien had previously encountered dangerous humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, Like at that point he's like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what humans are, and if I see one that, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no other choice but to kill them before they

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<v Speaker 1>hurt me. Like he's walking around with he has like

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<v Speaker 1>a crossbow bolt in his chest most of the time

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<v Speaker 1>because he's also been wounded by the humans. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the for me, the most interesting thing about

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<v Speaker 1>this film watching it for the first time without any riffs,

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<v Speaker 1>without you know, the added layer of overt humor provided

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<v Speaker 1>by MST three K, because I seen this film multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times before via that ms TH three K episode, which

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorites. It's a classic MST episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'd never really given the film a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>succeed and fail on its own merits, and it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It does both. Now, I do want to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to the title of this film, because this is it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that it has had. It has so many titles.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a French Spanish co production, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it was released in its respective countries with of course

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<v Speaker 1>French and Spanish names. I believe that the Spanish is

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<v Speaker 1>what los novos extraterrestris, which is the new extraterrestrials, and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then the French and French is not my

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not my my happy spot for pronunciation, but I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it is less monsters. So it's that's terrible, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I love what it means. The hatching of monsters.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Hatching of monsters might be the best

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<v Speaker 1>title for this film.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they do come from eggs. One egg is snuggled

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<v Speaker 2>by a child in his bed and the other egg

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<v Speaker 2>is is the other egg bashed opened by a poacher.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple eggs are bashed open, ye by poachers, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have poachers who are seeking eggs in the forest, so

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<v Speaker 1>the egg trope goes pretty deep in this. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this has had a ton of titles that we mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>pod people. You can look up all sorts of crazy

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<v Speaker 1>posters and vhs box art for this thing. And like

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<v Speaker 1>I found one that just says a visitor and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a weird illustration of Tommy and there's the shadow of

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<v Speaker 1>something standing in a doorway, presumably the alien visitor, which

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<v Speaker 1>looks nothing like anything in the film.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the shadow kind of looks like the silhouette of

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<v Speaker 2>the Guiver, you know, it's like it's like a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of robo alien humanoid shape with claws.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's another one I found and I love

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<v Speaker 1>this one. This is a black box video release and

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<v Speaker 1>this must be like this must be like us or Canadian.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I didn't I didn't look this up.

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<v Speaker 1>But it has this wonderful, charming, childlike illustration of Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>and Trumpy, and it just says ETV in gold swirling letters.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Extraterrestrial Visitors. But for the cool kids ETV, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like T two. Yeah, you know, I love it, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did they think they could get away with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just call it ETV. Let's just cut straight to it.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>This is G two baby.

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<v Speaker 1>But Trump is very cute on this. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>in general, we're talking about ET Trumpy. Trumpy is far

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<v Speaker 1>cuter than et. ET is just a flesh bag with

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<v Speaker 1>big eyes and a glowing finger. But meanwhile, Trumpy is

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<v Speaker 1>this delightful mix. He's like all the better aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>alf combined with snuffle up agains in a more bipedal form.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the Star Wars character that Trumpy looks like

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<v Speaker 2>from the most nicely cantina that has a long Ardvark snout?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I forget his name, but yes, he does

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<v Speaker 1>look like him, especially at one point in the film

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<v Speaker 1>when Tommy puts a coat on him with.

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<v Speaker 2>A hood garn Dan, Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>If you say so, I guess he also looks a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but like Max Rebo, the blue piano player

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<v Speaker 1>from Java's Barge. Yeah, of course trump he has hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay? So according to is this Wikipedia or some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of Star Wars wikie, this creature with the goggles,

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<v Speaker 2>the hood and the long snout is called garrin Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>also called long Snoot. It says he it was a Kubaz.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is an alien species, and he is

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<v Speaker 2>considered to be the greatest spy in the most sicily

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<v Speaker 2>spaceport there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you barely notice him, you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to look up his name. That's the mark of a

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<v Speaker 1>good spy.

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<v Speaker 2>But a big difference is that Trumpy is furry, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>Garindn is not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you don't want to carry all that fur with

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<v Speaker 1>you on Tatooine. Though perhaps sheared first?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, what so. One of the human characters describes

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<v Speaker 2>the aliens as looking like a cross between I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're saying a pig and a bear, though it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sounds like a pig and a pair either way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. I don't really see the pig part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the snout doesn't look very pig like. It's

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<v Speaker 1>more it's more snuffle up agaus. That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder if that line was written before the

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<v Speaker 2>creature design was finalized.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe so, all right, at this point, we would would

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<v Speaker 1>normally give you a little taste of the trailer. But

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<v Speaker 1>I looked around for a while and I could not

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<v Speaker 1>find any trailers for this film in any language. I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking up the various releases. I was thinking, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't find the English trailer. Maybe there wasn't one

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<v Speaker 1>or it's been lost, but surely I can find the

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<v Speaker 1>English or the original one that they used in Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was not able to find anything. So I

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<v Speaker 1>thought we might just have some audio from the film.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we'll get some of the charming synth music in

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<v Speaker 1>there as well. Hey, come back down, Tommy, What are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? What was all that noise? Tommy? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>hear me? Tommy? In the own room? All right? And

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<v Speaker 1>a note on availability for this film. Sadly, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not one where you can find it. Seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to find a better cut of the film, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least like better film quality. I ended up streaming

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<v Speaker 1>it via Prime and I know there are some some

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<v Speaker 1>other streams available out there. Again, if you look around

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<v Speaker 1>in the for the original Spanish and French titles for

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<v Speaker 1>the film, you can find I believe you can find

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<v Speaker 1>it in those languages, But in terms of finding like

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of their stored footage, we're not there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if this is a film where

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<v Speaker 1>this is as good as the video quality is ever

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<v Speaker 1>going to get, or if at some point we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>something a little easier to watch, because yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of kind of brutal at times. It's a film

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<v Speaker 1>that already has a lot of fog machines and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>some day for nights effects going on and things get

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<v Speaker 1>really muddy looking.

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<v Speaker 2>The woods in this movie often look like the foggy

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<v Speaker 2>forest that Graham Chapman gets lost in and oh where

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<v Speaker 2>they find the Knights who say knee and Monty Python

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<v Speaker 2>on the Holy Grail. You remember that sequence?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, this film makes makes great use of

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<v Speaker 1>the fog machine. So sadly we're still waiting on I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>a proper restored cut of this film. I hope we

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<v Speaker 1>get there. I hope that it's out there somewhere just

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for someone to discover. But I think for now,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I know, we don't really have a

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<v Speaker 1>superior example of video quality to steer you towards. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it came out on DVD, but I have no

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<v Speaker 1>reason to suspect that that has better video quality than

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<v Speaker 1>what's available elsewhere. All right, let's talk about the human

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<v Speaker 1>beings that made this film. So we've mentioned the director

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<v Speaker 1>of this film before. He's come up, because, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about Spanish films, inevitably some of the people

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<v Speaker 1>involved in Spanish productions also worked on some of his films.

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<v Speaker 1>This is jue Picuerre Simone. He was the director, the writer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he also did visual effects on this film. He

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<v Speaker 1>lived nineteen thirty five through twenty eleven. Spanish b movie

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<v Speaker 1>director who became I'm going to say he became legendary

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<v Speaker 1>for such films as nineteen eighty eight Slugs the Movie,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a film that I distinctly remember seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>trailer for when I was a child, and it made

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<v Speaker 1>me afraid to use a toilet. It may be anxious

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<v Speaker 1>about sitting on a toilet. That's how terrifying the trailer was,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a scene where you see slugs crawling on

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<v Speaker 1>a toilet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there's a toilet attack in it, or just slugs

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<v Speaker 2>on it toilet.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. I think you know, we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer for Slugs of the movie at some point

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<v Speaker 1>for trailer talk back in the day, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I could quite bring myself to watch it in full.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that one of the movies kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>late seventies remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, which

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<v Speaker 2>is fantastic where the hero is a member of the

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<v Speaker 2>local health inspection department.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that so okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I have a vague memory of something like that. Could

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<v Speaker 2>be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Simone's other film of note is nineteen eighty two's Pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a film that we've almost watched on Weird

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<v Speaker 1>House before. It's been almost cued up in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a chainsaw movie with a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>extra strange things added to it, but it has a

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<v Speaker 1>really fun cast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, it seems kind of like if Texas Chainsaw

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<v Speaker 2>Massacre was not rural and Texan but was about like

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<v Speaker 2>an apartment building.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like an apartment building in Madrid or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of odd, so we may come back to

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<v Speaker 1>that one. Simone also directed the nineteen ninety underwater sci

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<v Speaker 1>fi film The Rift that one has Ray Wise and

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<v Speaker 1>r Lee Ermie in it. He also did nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nine Supersonic Man that has Cameron Mitchell in it. He

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<v Speaker 1>did nineteen eighty one's Mystery on Monster Island that has

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence Stamp and Peter Cushing in it. And he also

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<v Speaker 1>did nineteen ninety two's Cuthulhu Mansion.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'd love to see what jan Pequerre Simone does

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<v Speaker 2>with Terrence Stamp General Zod.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm curious. So there's also another writer credited on this,

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<v Speaker 1>Joaquin Grau, who's credited as Jack Gray on the US version,

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<v Speaker 1>a writer who worked He just worked with Simone on

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of his other films, So I couldn't find

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<v Speaker 1>out much about this individual. But let's get into the

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<v Speaker 1>cast a bit here. So really the most of these

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<v Speaker 1>cast members were people I was not familiar with. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's one that has come up on the show before,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the character Bert, one of the Hunters,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the poach in the film, played by Frank Bronna,

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<v Speaker 1>who lived nineteen thirty four through twenty twelve. Not really

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<v Speaker 1>a major character in this film, but a regular player

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<v Speaker 1>in Simone's films, and he also turns up in a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of Spanish bee movies of the day, including Return

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<v Speaker 1>of the Blind Dead, which we previously covered on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>He in this movie looks like a cross between Sam

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagle and Leslie Nielsen. He has a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>silver haired authority and yet he's just playing kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a scummy poacher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think he played a lot of heavies in

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<v Speaker 1>his time. He shows up spaghetti westerns and horror movies.

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<v Speaker 1>He has those really piercing eyes and often white hair,

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<v Speaker 1>and also seem to be able to grow a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of impressive facial hair. So if you look up just

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<v Speaker 1>images of Frank Bronna in different movies, Yeah, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>little chameleon like. He can play any kind of suspicious,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of handsome dude with really piercing evil eyes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like he made a career out of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, who was he in Return of the Blind Dead?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he a was he like one of the corrupt

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<v Speaker 2>politicians or something?

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<v Speaker 1>He was? Memory serves he was the corrupt politicians henchman

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<v Speaker 1>who you think is decent for a while and not

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as the politician, but eventually reveals himself to

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<v Speaker 1>be a predatory villain as well, and then he's killed

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<v Speaker 1>by the dead. All right, other humans in this film

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<v Speaker 1>we have. We have the character Rick, who's the frontman

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<v Speaker 1>of a horrible band. This is played by Ian Sarah Dates,

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<v Speaker 1>unknown Spanish actor known mostly for this film for Pieces

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<v Speaker 1>for Mystery on Monster Island, so you know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a regular player for Simone, but he's recently directed and

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<v Speaker 1>produced it looks like and yeah. In this he plays Rick,

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<v Speaker 1>a perfectionist lead singer of a terrible band that makes

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<v Speaker 1>everyone around him miserable.

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<v Speaker 2>They're really it's like they're setting him up to be

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<v Speaker 2>the villain of the movie. He's like the jerk who

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<v Speaker 2>you know will finally get his come up and from

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<v Speaker 2>the monster in the end. But no, it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>in the end the movie you realize that he is

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the hero of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very weird, but he doesn't really do much that's heroic, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't really have an arc, he doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>redemption story. He doesn't realize that he was a jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>He just kind of by not he stops actively being terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't really do anything all that good. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he's a little heroic, but for movie heroism, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very mild.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I'm not saying he does anything qualitatively heroic.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying he fills the hero slot in the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>like he is the young guy who comes in at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, you know, and like shoots the monster and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, in that regard, you could say he's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely filling the space that should be occupied by a

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<v Speaker 1>more heroic figure.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, yeah, complete jerk of a character, essentially no

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<v Speaker 2>redeeming qualities. The only thing that changes really at the

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<v Speaker 2>end is he just sort of like stops having lines.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I guess they're that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Well, that's an eft is a blessing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see another human of note in this. There's Nina

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<v Speaker 1>Ferrer playing Sharon, a member of the band and Rick's girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Date's unknown, a Spanish actor who appeared in a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of films, and this might be the best well known,

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<v Speaker 1>at least outside of Spain as far as I can tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's also Susanna Biquerer, who plays Lara, a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the band. Lara is also a Miles spoiler. She

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<v Speaker 1>will be one of the early victims in the film,

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<v Speaker 1>but kind of a victim of both human more of

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<v Speaker 1>a victim of the humans right as opposed to the

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<v Speaker 1>aliens at any rate.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it's confusing because I thought that her death

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<v Speaker 2>is caused by humans, but then she gets the little

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<v Speaker 2>like the Big Dipper inscribed on her forehead, which suggests

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<v Speaker 2>she was killed by the alien.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, m all right, we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>suss that out at any rate. Beaker here a Spanish actor,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly active and still active on television. For instance, she's

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<v Speaker 1>currently in a show called Now and Then, which is

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<v Speaker 1>apparently on Apple TV Plus. And she had a small

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<v Speaker 1>role in Hostile Too as an Italian translator. And she is,

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<v Speaker 1>according to her online acting profile, fluent in English, Italian

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<v Speaker 1>and French.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, speaking of do do you have any idea whether

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<v Speaker 2>the actors who appear on screen also provide the voices

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<v Speaker 2>in the audio dub I wondered if there was any

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<v Speaker 2>difference there, because I think I think most or all

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<v Speaker 2>of this movie does not have live sound. The dialogue

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<v Speaker 2>is dubbed.

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<v Speaker 1>In right, So yeah, my understanding and I could be

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<v Speaker 1>wrong on this is that again, it was a French

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish co production, and I think lines were recorded for

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<v Speaker 1>both a French version and a Spanish version, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know I have both of those. If we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about two different takes in two different languages, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we're talking about one is the live take

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<v Speaker 1>and the other is the dub or as is sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the case with films of this caliber, if both were

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<v Speaker 1>dubbed and they just and they didn't do sound, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. All right. We mentioned Tommy already, Tommy, the

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<v Speaker 1>heart and soul of this film, the sweetness of this film,

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<v Speaker 1>this film's hope for humanity, played by Oscar Martin born

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two, a French child actor who I think

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<v Speaker 1>would have been like ten or eleven at the time

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<v Speaker 1>of filming, which coincidentally is the age of my son.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's why this film had more of

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<v Speaker 1>an effect on me watching it this as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>the past, because like, here's here's this child that is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that still has all of this innocence in him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's you know, he's into cute animals and caring

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<v Speaker 1>for animals and nature, and he has his goodness in him,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's a lot of that that reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of my own son. And there's also this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this fear of them growing ever older, getting closer and

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<v Speaker 1>closer to that world of teenagedness in adulthood, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of the complexities of all of that. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>all of this made me think a little bit deeper

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>about this film and read more into this film than

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I did in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, this is explaining a lot. Yeah, I suspect

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 2>your son would make better decisions than Tommy does.

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know. We'll see what is tom We'll

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>get into it. I'm trying to remember what Tommy's worst

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 1>decisions are.

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, now that I think about it.

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe Tommy. It's hard to blame Tommy too much.

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I think if him is essentially kind of unleashing an

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>alien horror on everyone, but he doesn't, it's not so

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 2>much his fault.

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say he increases the amount of entanglement

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 2>between the people and the aliens, but maybe that was inevitable.

0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Martin here playing Tommy is good. I enjoy him.

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's a good He does a good

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>job as a child actor in this and in the

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>English dub. I don't know for certain, but we kind

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 1>of have that same thing going on that we had

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 1>with the House by the Cemetery, where I think we

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>might have an adult woman dubbing the voice for Tommy,

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>which adds to the sort of weirdness of the whole situation.

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, yep. What was the kid in the house

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 2>by the cemetery was up?

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Bob? Bob? Yes, at least this time a proper child's name, right, Tommy.

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like a child's name. Bob. That's a grown

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>up's name, right, all right. A couple of other actors

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 1>have not there is there are a numerous actors. There

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>are really too many human characters in this because the

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>band and has just multiple members and hangers on, some

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>of which have no real impact on the plot. But Tommy,

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>as we learned, Tommy lives with his mom, whose name

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>is Molly, played by Concha Queitos born nineteen forty four,

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Spanish actor who worked mostly in TV and was also

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 1>in Slug And then we have and then Tommy's uncle

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Bill lives with them. Uncle Bill is played by Manuel

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Perero who was born in nineteen twenty seven, a Cuban

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>born Spanish actor I believe, who has a fairly diverse filmography,

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>having appeared in movies that also feature the likes of

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>John Finch, Steve Guttenberg, Alan Arkin, Leonard Nimoy, Julian Sands,

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Paul McGann and Paul Nashy.

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Of course, Paul Nashy.

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.479
<v Speaker 2>I oh, man, I'm gonna get tripped up a lot

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>when we're talking about the plot because this is uncle Bill.

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>But I was definitely just thinking of him as grandpa.

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>So he is grandpa to me.

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's oh, he's awful. He's just a grumpy

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>man who distrusts everyone, hates animals.

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he really hates Carl and asc Yeah.

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so we'll discuss Bill. Uncle Bill is not

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a likable character, all right. And finally, the music. The

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>music is definitely I think one of the best attributes

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>of the film. The music here was done by Libra Pastor.

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Pastor worked on a handful of Simone films, including pieces

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>a Spanish organ player and composer. He was apparently a

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>member of the band Los Roberts and the soundtrack was

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>released on vinyl in Spain. So some of these films

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>we end up talking about were like, oh, what if

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>they ever put this out on vinyl, wouldn't that be cool?

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>This is one where it came out on vinyl originally.

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody's put it back out on vinyl.

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it's available anywhere officially, Like it's

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.239
<v Speaker 1>a digital and it's a digital version. I don't think

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>it ever came out on like cassette or CD, but

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>it came out on vinyl. And the cover is pretty

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>great because it has this wonderful illustration of Tommy looking

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>up into the sky and there's like a halo of

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>light behind him.

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Los Nuevo's Extra Terrestrace. So comb your local used record

0:28:58.080 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>store if you find a copy right in.

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>This has got to be worth a fortune, at least

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to certain very specific individuals. But anyway, the music in

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>this is pretty fun that the score anyway, lots of synth,

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>very atmospheric at times, also very goofy and carnival ask

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>at times. I remember in the MST three K episode

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>they distinctly made I think they made of music from

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the Hearts of Space joke in there, because it does

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>have that kind of feel at times.

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Did this person THO Will also write the pop song

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 2>that is that is diegetic music within the movie. It

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 2>is the band the song the band sings in the studio.

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I do not know about that. I don't think that

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>awful track which is known as idiot Control now among

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>MST three k fans, I don't think that's on the

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>score album here. And I did note that on IMDb

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>there's another individual credited as well for music, and so

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>perhaps that individual had something to do with creation of

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that track. I'm not sure.

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I think outside the context of MST the song is

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 2>actually called Burning Rubber Tires, which is a really wonderfully

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 2>attractive name. But I would say this is actually it

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>makes for one of the all time great MST skits.

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, you watch MST like a lot of times

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the skits are aren't the best part, but the skit

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>in the pod People episode where they sing a parody

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>of this song is it's got to be top three

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 2>ever on the show.

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. Joel does a spoof of it and

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it's it's tremendous. Definitely. This is a situation where were

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>watching it unriffed. I still had the echo of a

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>number of the rifts in my mind as I was

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>watching it.

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Steady as she goes we're flying over trout.

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Except the weird thing is I thought some of the

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 2>lines they sang in their version that we're just that

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I assumed we're just straight parody are literally the lines

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>in the real song, Like I think all I want

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 2>to feel is the wind in my eyes, which is hilarious.

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Is actually the lyric.

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it is? Yeah, that just sounds insane, Like,

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>if I'm feeling the wind in my eyes, I probably

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>need some goggles. Yeah, that's going to dislogic contact lens.

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you ready to talk about the plot.

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into the plot, all right.

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>We get how many movies have we watched recently? I

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 2>feel like this is a really common opening motif we

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 2>open on a starfield, we're just looking at space. It's

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>got to be, like, I don't know, at least four

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>out of the last seven movies we've done.

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, And I feel like this one especially is

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of an example of how not to do it logically.

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, if you want a logical example of

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>how to do it, look at something like John Carpenter's

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>The Thing right where we have starfield object entering Earth's

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere and then we pretty much cut to stuff on Earth.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>We don't go back to space. We were never just

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>stuck in space without any hint of action going on.

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>But there's something I do like about this opening, actually

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 2>that's a little more stylish than I think most of

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the film is, which is the base beat Star. There

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>is like there's kind of a pulse a beat in

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the soundtrack that is synchronized to the flaring of a

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 2>star in the middle of the void. And then of

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 2>course we see after that there's a big explosion. I

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 2>guess that's supposed to be a super nova or something.

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, But then there's like a hunk of

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 2>something flying through space toward the camera. And I got

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>to say, from what I recall, this is completely different

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>from the opening that I remember from the version of

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>the movie that's used in the Mystery Science Theater episode,

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 2>which I recall was grainy slow mo footage from a

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 2>totally unrelated movie.

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the film Ventures International version, which that's where we

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>got the title Pod People, that was based out of

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta by the way back in the seventies. But the

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>version they put out on I assume VHS that they

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>used footage from Don dollars nineteen eighty five film Galaxy Invader.

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>In the opening, Don Dahler, of course, is the guy

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>did Night Beast?

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've seen Galaxy Invader. Galaxy Invader and Night Beast

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>have some things in common. Both of them are about

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 2>a an alien that crash lands somewhere in like rural

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Maryland and then runs around scaring people.

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we really need to do one of his

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>films at some point. They're all basically all the alien

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>films anyway, and he has like what three or four

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 1>of them. They're all essentially the same plot. They have

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>different and different alien or different aliens in them, but

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>they're they're always enjoyable.

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 2>One thing I remember about Night Beast is the the

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 2>the titular Beast has a really cool, like like shiny suit.

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>It almost looks like a like a suit like a

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 2>cool like singer from the seventies would wear, like in

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a disco band or something.

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, he does have a shiny suit, doesn't he.

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>But Okay, that's the opening of what wait, which one?

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Which name are we even using to call it? Extraterrestrial Visitors?

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And then we go down to Earth and we're looking

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>at the woods of Fog and Bog. We're in Fog

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 2>and Bog territory. The atmosphere again, it kind of reminds

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 2>me of those misty woods with the knights who say, Nie,

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 2>it's very atmospheric. In fact, like you could imagine some

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 2>of these environmental shots being kind of cool in a

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 2>better movie. Like the atmosphere is not bad, it just

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>doesn't segue into very compelling action instead of what we

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 2>get is like three poachers kind of bumbling about, arguing

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>with each other, and it's like, are we here? Are

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:31.439
<v Speaker 2>you sure?

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Are you sure? You're sure?

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 2>And I think they're trying to steal eagle eggs or something.

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're like fumbling around for a ladder, they're scaling

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a tree, and they have what they claim to be

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>like three grand worth of eggs that they've stolen, like

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars worth of eggs they're gonna sell in

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the black market. I was wondering if they might be fabergets.

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what is the market for eagle eggs.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Do people want to cook them and make eagle omelets

0:34:57.840 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>or people trying to hatch eagles? What's the deal?

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but the bottom line is the very least.

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>When we meet these three poachers, they have no respect

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>for nature. All they see is profit and they're gonna

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>break the break the rules. They're gonna break all rules

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>of law and man and alien to get what they want.

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>They are bad dudes. And then we zoom out again.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I'm tired of Earth. Let's go back to space.

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>So we just see like auroras of weird energy in space,

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>and we see the Earth from orbit and all kinds

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 2>of stuff going on, and then we come back and

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>then they're like, Okay, you saw that. Now, let's go

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.800
<v Speaker 2>back to Earth. Here's a kid in bed and he

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.359
<v Speaker 2>gets up out of bed to scold his cat. He's

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 2>talking about, like, naughty kitty. I don't remember why the

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 2>kitty is naughty.

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I gues it's just where it's not supposed to be.

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it got up to move around. Okay. He's like,

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.439
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm going to take the kitten back to bed. Yeah.

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>This is our introduction to Tommy, a child of absolute

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>goodness who loves animals in nature, whose room is home

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 1>to roughly one hundred different species that he's carrying or

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>they are, and they're not only his charge, they are

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>his friends. Oh he's just he is just childhood innocence.

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 1>He is biophilia incarnate. He's he's just uttersweetness in an

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 1>example of what humanity could be on this world or

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>in the universe at large. Only likable human in the picture.

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, beautiful, wide eyed innocence and curiosity. I start contrast

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>to the to the grumbling evil of the poachers. And

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>then but let's go, let's go check in with the

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 2>poachers again. So something crashes to earth. The poachers I

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 2>think they're hanging out at a campfire where they're like, well,

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 2>let's go investigate. And one of them stumbles into the

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 2>crash site and it is a cave of glowing red fog.

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of weird.

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 2>But he goes inside. In the cave is full of eggs.

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, but for some reason, he's like,

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I gotta bash all these eggs. I gotta smash them.

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 2>So he gets a stick or is it a stick

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>or a hammer. He's just start bashing all the eggs

0:36:58.040 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 2>for no reason.

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it's awful because he happens upon this holy

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>grotto of extraterrestrial eggs, and his immediate reaction is just

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 1>to start smashing them all, just like, must destroy all

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>of these eggs, and you're like, no, don't do it,

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and he just keeps doing it.

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>But oh no, there is something in the cave of

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 2>glowing fog that does not like the egg bashing endeavor.

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 2>We get a POV of some kind of creature that

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 2>comes out from around a corner and attacks and kills

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 2>the poacher.

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Dude. Yeah, this is creature number one, which I guess

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>we're to think of as an adult creature or a

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>mature creature of this species that was maybe already aboard

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>this ship or this or whatever, or this piece of

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>its planet, whatever the details may be concerning this thing

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>that is crashed with eggs on it. But it's kind of,

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I guess, kind of an egg guardian. It does. I

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's supposed to be the mother, because we

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>later get some testimony from from Trumpy creature number two

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>in which he's asked where its mother is, He like

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>points to the stars or points at a constellation on

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>a map or something. So it's just another creature, a

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>mature individual from this species.

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 2>It may be Trumpy's brother or sister, but it is

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 2>not his parent. But we're getting ahead of ourselves because

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 2>we haven't met Trumpy yet, right.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Trump, he's still so egg because not all of the

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>eggs are smashed. It'll it will turn out later.

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, most of them are smashed. So then we follow

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 2>the poacher some more. And I'm confused about what they're

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 2>doing at this point because at first they were stealing

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.760
<v Speaker 2>eagle eggs, but then it shows them like aiming rifles

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 2>at deer, so they just also happened to be hunting

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 2>deer at the same time they are poaching eggs.

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>It's confusing because it at first I thought, oh, I

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>guess they're gonna shoot deer, because they at one point

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>they're like the white haired one, the frank brown character,

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>He's like, we got to get out of here. This

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>feels weird. There's something weird in the forest. Let's move.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 1>But then they seem to stop to consider shooting some deer,

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.320
<v Speaker 1>so maybe they're not in that big of a hurry.

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 1>And then they stopped a camp, not in a huge

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>hurry after all. And then there are all these scenes

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>where Brona is using the rifle to just look at

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 1>things and look at people, doing things. So he's like

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>aiming his high powered hunting rifle. I just random people

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>in the forest.

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.240
<v Speaker 2>It's like the cop and Plan nine from outer space,

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 2>who just points his gun at people whenever he's talking

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 2>to them. Yeah, but let's go back to the house,

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.919
<v Speaker 2>so we check in with Tommy. He is we find more.

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 2>We find out more about his innate curiosity because he

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 2>is examining a centipede under a microscope and he's looking

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 2>at all the little legs and the overlapping plates and

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the body segments and the parts, and you can tell

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>how much he just loves learning about the natural world.

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.720
<v Speaker 2>But uh oh, the fact that he's looking at at

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 2>a creature under a microscope, this leads to conflict with

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the guy I was thinking of his grandpa. But this

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 2>is uncle Bill. Uncle Bill. Apparently he does not like

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the book Learning It is Witchcraft.

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. It's mentioned that it's the centipede, and

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Tommy gives the what is supposedly the scientific classification for

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>the species, and Uncle Bill just hates this. He's like, no,

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a centipede to me. We call that a centipede.

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's just heated over it heated this man is awful,

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and even Mom is not much help. She's like, well,

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 1>it's dirty. It's like it shouldn't be in here, Like

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>there's just Tommy has all this sweetness and innocence and curiosity,

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like Uncle Bill's just just pounding it

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>into the dirt as to the best of his ability.

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 2>There is far more bacteria on Uncle Bill than there

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>is on the centipede.

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Come on, yeah, Plus, you should be so lucky as

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.919
<v Speaker 1>to have this beautiful predator in your house hunting other pets,

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>especially if it were a house centipede, which you know

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>has spread with humanity around the world, and there a

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 1>specially known for praying on all sorts of things you

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>don't want in your house, like like like bedbugs, for example, cockroaches.

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, like you want a house centipede around.

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Finally we get to the band or the what

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 2>do you call that? I guess when I think of

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 2>a band, I think of people who play instruments. This

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 2>is a singing group, a group of singers.

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, none of them are actually playing an instrument, right,

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>there's just right.

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 2>They're just singing over a pre recorded track. So we

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 2>see them recording in the studio, they're flying over Trout

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and by this point we've essentially established the three movie formula.

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 2>I know Mystery Science Theater also thought about the movie

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 2>this way, but it makes a lot of sense. You

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.919
<v Speaker 2>got movie A, which is the Poacher's, Movie B, which

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 2>is the Child with Pets, and then movie C, which

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 2>is the singing Group.

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this toxic bunch of band members, and they're various

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 1>hangers on and producers. They're just they're just awful, Like

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 1>this whole scene, like they're doing this terrible number, and

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Rick is just a perfectionist, an abusive perfectionist about the

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. He's like, it's awful, it stinks. We're taking

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>it from the top. Like you get the impression that

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>he's one of these guys who's like, we're gonna do

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 1>five hundred takes of this scene until we get it.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna keep doing this track until we're exhausted, until

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>we get it right. And of course they're not scaling

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Mount Everest here. We heard the song. We know that

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>it is absolutely garbage.

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thinking of other people who do ridiculous excessive numbers

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 2>of takes, I think of like Stanley Kubrick or something

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.839
<v Speaker 2>and not that this makes that behavior acceptable, because I mean,

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>even then, I think it could be considered wildly excessive,

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 2>abusive to the cast and stuff. But at least with Kubrick,

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you end up with a good movie.

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's one thing if you're talking about someone who

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>has also has a reputation for high quality work, Like

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to say that there are similar tales about

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Doctor dre being very perfectionists when it comes to producing

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>tracks and all. Yeah, but at the end of the

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, do you have a Doctor Dre

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 1>produced track, do you have a Stanley Kubrick directed film?

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>You have idiot control?

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Now this is the wind in my eyes. But okay,

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 2>So they sing the song and then Rick, the lead singer,

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 2>is hideously abusive to all of the other singers. And

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 2>then they're all going to pile into an RV and

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 2>go up to the mountains for the weekend.

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Perfect, everybody getting along. Great, let's take this to

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:24.240
<v Speaker 1>a crowded camper and head out to a crowded gabin somewhere.

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and then there's conflict over the fact that so

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>they like open up the door to the RV. It's like, well,

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>we all hate each other and we've been fighting. So

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 2>let's let's go on to you know, spend the weekend

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 2>in the woods. And they open the door to the

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 2>r V and then here is like a lady who

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>introduces herself as Laura. They say that she is the

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 2>daughter of the boss of the record label. I think,

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>so it's like they've got to be nice to her

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 2>because you know, her dad is deciding their musical fate.

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 2>But immediately this causes problems between Rick the Jerk and

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 2>his girlfriend Sharon, because it's for some reason immediately clear

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 2>that Rick and Laura this other lady are gonna, you know,

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:09.799
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna get together. And this other guy goes up,

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 2>like the nice guy. I think his name is Brian.

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 2>He goes up to the girlfriend Sharon, and he's like,

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 2>don't worry about it. He says, this is a quote

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 2>making out with chicks is part of his act as

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 2>an artist. Smooth, very smooth.

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Just every everyone in this group is awful or they're

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>enabling of awfulness. It's yeah, but also it works.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.359
<v Speaker 2>He says that, and she's like, yeah, you're right, but okay,

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, so let's go on a road trip with

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>people we hate and then there's a lot of driving scenes.

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 2>We see them going up and down roads and the

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.240
<v Speaker 2>RV and winding along while the music plays.

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, more time is spent getting these characters to the

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>countryside than getting that space rock from its origin to

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the Earth.

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, we got to check in with Tommy. And here's

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 2>where things really start to cook, because Tommy runs off

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 2>into the woods and he stumbles across the glowing red

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 2>cave and he goes inside into the red fog and

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>he sees a dead man with led lights on his

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.280
<v Speaker 2>forehead in the pattern of the shape of the Big Dipper.

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 2>And then Tommy's like, oh, it was a dead man

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>with the Big Dipper on his head. Better steal one

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 2>of these alien eggs.

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask this is a recurring motif where

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 2>people in the movie who are killed by the aliens

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 2>end up with the Big Dipper on their forehead in lights,

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:36.320
<v Speaker 2>And I'm wondering, number one, why does that happen? And

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 2>number two, how does that happen?

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a lot of questions about this too.

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Later on Trump he indicates that this is his home constellation,

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>like this is where his mother is. So I guess

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Alien number one the non trumpye is killing people, or

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>in some cases, perhaps finding dead people and riding the

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>constellation on their forehead or making it appear with phosphorescent

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>spores or something. Who knows what the xenobiological rationale is here,

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure why it would do. This is

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>like it would be like us riding earth on dead

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>aliens that we killed. It. I mean, I understand they

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>want to go home, but you're not going to achieve

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>that by just riding home on the forehead of your victims.

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure. I guess it's one of these

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 1>things that don't overthink it. It looks kind of cool,

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a neat effect. It just doesn't make

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous amount of sense.

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 2>All Right, I won't overthink it from now on. That's

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:39.240
<v Speaker 2>just what happens. So, yeah, Tommy grabs one of these eggs.

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.439
<v Speaker 2>He's like, well, I'm going to take this back home.

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's religious. Maybe it's like, oh, like we're thinking

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>it's something bad, but as we as we later look

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:50.840
<v Speaker 1>like these these aliens they just want to be our friends.

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe this is like last rites for them. Huh.

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, so here's a thing we're thinking about an

0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 2>alien from the direction of the constellation of the Big

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Dipper would not see like it itself, would not look

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 2>up into the sky and see the Big Dipper as

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 2>the Big Dipper. That is a feature of our perspective

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 2>from Earth. So if it were doing this in some

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 2>ritual way, it would have to be sort of for

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 2>our benefit or in an earth directed sense, you know

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.879
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like that wouldn't be a native piece

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 2>of imagery for them.

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Hmm yeah, well in that case it doesn't make any sense. Sorry, Trumpy,

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't help you.

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, So Tommy takes the boy home and we're

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna have some some good times with the egg. He

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:39.279
<v Speaker 2>sneaks the egg into his bedroom. He you know, he

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 2>talks to his animals. I think his mom's like, Tommy,

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:44.359
<v Speaker 2>what were you out you know, what were you doing

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 2>out there? And Tommy lies, he says, kitty was me owing.

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was hungry. But then after mom goes away,

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Tommy tells all of his other animals, you just wait

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and see, you're gonna have a new friend soon. And

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 2>then the kid goes to sleep.

0:47:57.360 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Hugging the egg.

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 2>So so sweet. Now back to the kids, the not

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 2>the kids. I mean the I don't know, the people

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 2>in the RV, the singers, they're up to no good.

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 2>They're just again just being nasty. Like the record executive's

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 2>daughter Laura. She goes up to Rick the jerk in

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:20.720
<v Speaker 2>the woods, and she's like kiss me Rick, and he's like, well, okay,

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 2>and then she immediately in the next scene, they're like

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 2>sitting around a campfire and she's taunting Rick's girlfriend, like,

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 2>tell her what we did in the woods. Rick, And

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. They're just like absolutely unnecessarily cruel

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 2>to each other in a way that doesn't even make

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 2>sense as like normal types of cruelty. It just it's weird.

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just left feeling like these are all just

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 1>horrible people and I don't care if an alien kills

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 1>them in the woods.

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 2>But this leads to this leads to Sharon like throwing

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 2>water in Laura's face or something, and then Laura runs

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 2>away and then what did you think happened here? What

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought happened was she like saw the poachers and

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.760
<v Speaker 2>then got scared and fell off the edge of a cliff.

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 1>But oh, not only saw the poachers, but one of

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>the poachers, the non Frank Bronna poacher and the non

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>egg smasher one who's dead of course, you know, the

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.320
<v Speaker 1>non Frank Brona attempts to grab her and like abduct

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>her or assault her or something, and so he runs

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>away from from him, and then she runs off the

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>side of a cliff and falls seems like quite a distance.

0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 1>She falls enough to where she's not completely unconscious at least.

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so they eventually the RV people come and

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 2>find her, and they take her back to the RV

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and they try to I don't know what does this

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 2>medical scene.

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're like, okay, she at least has a severe concussion,

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 1>so let's tuck her into bed and pour liquor down

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 1>her throat. So they get a bottle of Jack Daniels

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>or something, and they're treating it like it's a potion

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 1>of greater healing or something.

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 2>But so they eventually they're gonna they're gonna show up

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 2>at the house, right, So they arrive at the house

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 2>of Tommy's family asking to use a phone. You know,

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 2>our friend is hurt. We need to call for help.

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh and uh, And how does the family react. Uncle

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Bill doesn't take kindly to strangers of course.

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he grabs a gun. That's his first reaction to

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:21.279
<v Speaker 1>the strangers at his door pleading for help, and his

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.839
<v Speaker 1>attitude does not improve much at all when he finds

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:25.839
<v Speaker 1>out that they're in trouble. He's just like, all right,

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess we let him in the house. Yeah.

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the phones of course are out. Uh they

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.399
<v Speaker 2>say because of the storm. But I don't think we've

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 2>seen a storm.

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just I guess all that fog, that just hideous

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 1>fog bank that's rolled in. It's just destroying phone lines

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and everything else.

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Here's a metal band name Storm of Fog.

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 1>There you go. I like it. Oh.

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Also, the road is blocked so they can't leave, so

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 2>they're just stuck here at the house, and they realize

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:53.479
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have to spend the night and tomorrow they'll

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:56.359
<v Speaker 2>go find a radio in the ranger's cabin and then

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 2>use that to call for help. So this place must

0:50:59.200 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 2>be very seclude.

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that they didn't make much use of it.

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 1>But they had a bar in this film, in the

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>in this environment, in this cabin that reminded me a

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of the bar in The Devil Girl from Mars.

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, really well stocked lots of brown liquors.

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, multiple shelves, Like that's an extensive liquor collection.

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, we don't really see people sitting

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 1>around enjoying it. I guess they just didn't have time

0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 1>with all that's happening here.

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, the poachers are out camping in the woods, and

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 2>if they're having a hard time, I thought they were

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 2>going to be getting out of there, but they're just

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:35.320
<v Speaker 2>hanging around for some reason. I don't understand what the

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 2>poachers are doing.

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they at first they acted like they realized something

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>was wrong and they needed to get the heck out

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.839
<v Speaker 1>of Dodge, But then they're not. There's no real rush.

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Later on they're like, all right, well, I guess we're

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:48.839
<v Speaker 1>walking out of here. They seem concerned about the fact

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that their truck is gone, but they don't really do

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 1>anything about it. They accept that. The really bad poacher says, well,

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 1>couldn't we steal those kids camper? And he's like, like,

0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:00.839
<v Speaker 1>you idiot, you can't do that. Were already doing enough

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:02.880
<v Speaker 1>crimes here, we don't need more crimes.

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the bearded one that wants to take the RV.

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 2>The other guys Frank Burana is more like, that'll get

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 2>us into more trouble.

0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're just here to poach eggs. We're not here

0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>to kidnap, we're not here to steal vehicles. And the

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.239
<v Speaker 1>bearded guys like, well, we could do all those things.

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 1>We have time, let's do those things.

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 2>But so they're camping out in the woods and they, oh,

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 2>they encounter an alien. And I think this is the

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:30.279
<v Speaker 2>first time we actually get a look at what the

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 2>alien body forms are like in this movie. So the

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:38.360
<v Speaker 2>alien is like because sort of a furry squat Chewbacca

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 2>style body, but much shorter, and then the head has

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 2>like a pointy apex on top, and then long ardvark

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>snout and then pointy l fears.

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought this scene was rather effective because when we

0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>see the creature here, and granted we have some context

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 1>as well, we've seen presumably we've seen it kill already,

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it looks a little bit cute. There's

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 1>some cuteness here. It's not just completely monstrous, but there's

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 1>an uncanniness to it as well. And then also the

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:13.759
<v Speaker 1>lighting is very dark. The human characters here are being

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 1>very cautious around it. And then another thing that I

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>really like about the extraterrestrials in this film is the

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 1>eyes they created for them are very expressive. They're very glassy,

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like living looking eyes that I think give them a

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:28.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of character.

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 2>But to keep up with your theory that the alien

0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 2>only turns murderous because it is repeatedly exposed to aggression

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 2>from humans early on, So it walks up to the campfire.

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what its original plan is, but they

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 2>start shooting it with a crossbow.

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're kind of like the bearded guy, he kind

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.320
<v Speaker 1>of he's like, hey, come on in. He's trying to

0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:51.520
<v Speaker 1>small talk the alien. He's offering it a big grotesque

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>piece of meat that they've been cooking over the fire.

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, just already kind of an unsettling display. But

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 1>then Frank Brona tries to net it. They fire a

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 1>crossbow bolt at it, and the bolt hits it in

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the hits the alien in the chest. So yeah, these

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:08.280
<v Speaker 1>are not good ambassadors of humanity.

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, back at the house, uh oh, that egg's hatching.

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:24.880
<v Speaker 2>It pops open. There's a little kind of greasy, slimy

0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:25.919
<v Speaker 2>little alien in there.

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:30.920
<v Speaker 1>So cute. So it's not cute yet it's already cute.

0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:35.320
<v Speaker 1>It's already cute. It's the slimy little like like fetal

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>elephant creature. And yeah, I don't know, I thought it

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 1>was cute.

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I won't argue with you. He starts feeding the

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:47.400
<v Speaker 2>alien food. It's eating a lot. It really enjoys vacuuming

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 2>up milk with its snout. He names it Trumpy. I

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 2>assume that's because it has a long snout, and so

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that is like a trump beet. I don't think that's

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 2>ever made explicit, but that's what I guess.

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It could also originate in one of

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the two original languages for the film. I don't know.

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it makes even more sense in French or in Spanish.

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 2>But the kids like, oh, we're going to play now

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:16.120
<v Speaker 2>that you're getting bigger. Do you know what playing is? Trumpy?

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:19.319
<v Speaker 2>And Trumpy does not know, but Trumpy will find out.

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 1>So this is the world that Trumpy is introduced to.

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 1>This is the human world that he's introduced to, a

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>world of copious amounts of food. A lot of it

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 1>is breakfast, cereals, toys, play, friendship, all the things that

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>were denied to extraterrestrial one.

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 2>But remember now this is all taking place in the

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 2>same house where the RV singers are staying overnight, and

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 2>apparently Laura, the record executive's daughter who fell off the cliff,

0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 2>she dies overnight and they come and see her, and

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:52.400
<v Speaker 2>they see something is horrible about her face. We already

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 2>know what it is. It's going to be the Big

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Dipper with the lights. But I guess overnight, also Trumpy

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 2>becomes much bigger. He grows from like the size of

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:04.800
<v Speaker 2>a little toy on the on the shelf to basically

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 2>the same size as Tommy. And we see that this

0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:11.680
<v Speaker 2>great scene that is hilarious in the Mystery Science Theater

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 2>version where Trumpy is just surveying the buffet of Tommy's pets,

0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 2>panting over the rabbits and the hamsters and the cat

0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:20.240
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff.

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they make some great riffs in that episode about

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 1>him considering eating all these animals. But in the original

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 1>film he does not eat any of the animals. And

0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I kind of get the sense that these are vegetarians,

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that they don't eat meat, which makes the earlier offering

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:41.160
<v Speaker 1>of the grotesque meat by the bearded poacher even more fitting.

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's like, like, come here, organism. Would you

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 1>like some organism?

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 2>But in the scene we also discover via interactions with

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 2>a toy robot that Trumpy has telekinesis.

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, like not even just a little bit, like

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:56.400
<v Speaker 1>not just a little bit of carry white, but like

0:56:56.560 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 1>full power carry white, like full almost godline telekinetic powers. Well.

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.600
<v Speaker 2>ET does too. I think this is an ET touch

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 2>from ET.

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, does E t like bring the whole room to life?

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 1>It's been so long since I've seen ET.

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 2>I think so.

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a scene where ET does basically the

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:16.640
<v Speaker 2>same thing Trump. He does, like makes all the you know,

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 2>the toys fly around and stuff.

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Trump he probably does it better. I

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm If I were to watch ET again,

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I would side with the Trumpy got because Trumpy basically

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 1>uses a Simon game to cut a synth track like

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:36.439
<v Speaker 1>this Carnival synth track that starts playing like Trumpy does

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>this by manipulating the Simon software.

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I did not expect your take on this movie to

0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:42.600
<v Speaker 2>be so anti ET.

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, ET's fine, you can't hate ET, but but

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I also I don't. I've also I've seen ET like

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>once in my life. I've seen pod people or extraterrestrial

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:55.240
<v Speaker 1>visitors multiple multiple times.

0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:57.920
<v Speaker 2>What else does Trumpy eat? So I'm trying to think

0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 2>do they ever feed him meat? Him suck up a

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 2>bunch of milk. We see Tommy bring him, oh, a

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 2>big old thing of Planters peanuts and you can see

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 2>the label, So, I mean Planters surely they paid for

0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 2>that place.

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 1>You know they did this the Reese's treatment, right.

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 2>And they do a special effect where you know, Trumpy's

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 2>snout is like a vacuum cleaner and it's sucking up

0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 2>all the peanuts. When we in this scene, we get

0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 2>some really good looks at Trumpy's eyes. I notice Trumpy

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:30.560
<v Speaker 2>has a vertical slit pupils cat ooh nice.

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah again, these are lovely eyes. You know, whoever did

0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 1>this this costume? I feel like they they kind of

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:38.400
<v Speaker 1>knocked it out of the park. I like it.

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 2>But Trumpy learns puzzles and games. He telekinetically solves a

0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 2>puzzle and manipulates a Simon says thing, Uh, there's a

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 2>there's a bonding scene where Tommy is drawing and he

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 2>draws this hideous picture and says, that's my mommy. Do

0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:56.720
<v Speaker 2>you have a mommy.

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his picture of his mom looks like a rick

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Flare Paz to Spencer, Yep.

0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:08.760
<v Speaker 2>It Also it looks absolutely nothing like his mommy, Like

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 2>it's not even close, not even the same hair color.

0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:14.760
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, this is the Trumpy. You can do magic

0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:18.760
<v Speaker 2>things here the scene, and Trumpy turns the child's bedroom

0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:23.320
<v Speaker 2>into a living nightmare of carnival music, flickering lights, dancing toys,

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 2>terrorizing the pets. He sticks to the ceiling like Baron Harkoneen.

0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 2>It's great.

0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And also his eyes glow like stars. It's it's

0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:34.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty great.

0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Now. Is this the scene where Trumpy says where his

0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:40.000
<v Speaker 2>mommy is and points out the constellation?

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I think so, because I think he shows in the

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<v Speaker 1>picture Tommy's picture of his own mommy, and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>where's your mommy? And He's like he points, and Tommy's like, oh,

0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:50.800
<v Speaker 1>your mommy, You mean the trees. Your mommy's in the

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<v Speaker 1>trees And he's like, no, Trump, He points that the

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<v Speaker 1>map of the constellations and causes one of the constellations,

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the dip, to glow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now, exactly like an et. Also, there's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing of Tommy trying to hide Trumpy from his family,

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<v Speaker 2>like hiding him in the closet and stuff. Obviously this

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<v Speaker 2>is more difficult. Well, while Trumpy is playing DJ in

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<v Speaker 2>the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's the distraction of a dead woman downstairs, so

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that probably helps cover things up. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>as concerned about what new animal Tommy has a snuck

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<v Speaker 1>into the house. But at one point, maybe later, but

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<v Speaker 1>Mom gets short with Tommy and she's like, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>more animals. They're all going out tomorrow. Yeah, that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>kind of kind of harsh, Mom. You know, he loves

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<v Speaker 1>these animals even don't get you.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, that's an empty threat. But meanwhile, speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>Grizzly murders, Grandpa and one of the r V kids

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<v Speaker 2>they go off looking for the ranger station. I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is the guy Brian who earlier was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, don't worry about Rick making out with other girls.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just part of his act. Brian and Uncle Bill

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<v Speaker 2>they go to the ranger station. Uncle Bill just walks

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<v Speaker 2>around pointing his gun at everything, and they find one

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<v Speaker 2>of the poachers inside, but he is dead and he's

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<v Speaker 2>got a big dipper in lights on his forehead, just

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody else, and then one of the aliens attacks them.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemingly kills the RV dude, and Grandpa escapes. Now

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<v Speaker 2>here's a question I wonder about. Are we are we

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<v Speaker 2>as the audience, supposed to be wondering if this is

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<v Speaker 2>Trumpy doing the killing since in the scene right before this,

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<v Speaker 2>Trumpy sneaks off and disappears. Or are we supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>assume that this is a different alien that just looks

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<v Speaker 2>identical to Trumpy. I think we discover it is a

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<v Speaker 2>different alien, but I don't know if that's intentionally supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be an open question or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure on this because it seems like,

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<v Speaker 1>on one hand, the killing started before Trump be hatched,

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<v Speaker 1>So if we're just looking at the timeline of events,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't pin all the murders on Trump. There has

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<v Speaker 1>to be another a primary alien out there, extraterrestrial one.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't I have a hard time understanding how

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<v Speaker 1>we the viewer are supposed to think Trumpy might be

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. But also it's hard to reflect on this

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<v Speaker 1>because it's been so long since I had a fresh

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<v Speaker 1>viewing of this, Like it seems like I've always known

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<v Speaker 1>that Trumpy was innocent and incapable of murder.

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<v Speaker 2>He is blameless. Did you notice the Ranger cabin in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods here has framed portraits of Ronald Reagan on

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<v Speaker 2>the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that made me laugh. I feel like there

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<v Speaker 1>was after I saw it. I have a vague recollection

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<v Speaker 1>of there being a riff about the Gipper or something

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<v Speaker 1>in the most two three K episode. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>an odd inclusion because this again is Spain. It's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be Spain, and it's filmed in Spain. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why Ronald Reagan's on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>So we see the alien kill another one of the

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<v Speaker 2>band members. This is the singer Tracy. He just he

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<v Speaker 2>kills her in the r V and uh oh. This

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<v Speaker 2>time Tommy happens to be looking through the telescope down

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<v Speaker 2>at the RV outside I guess to witness this, and

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<v Speaker 2>because the aliens look the same, he thinks Trumpy is

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<v Speaker 2>the killer. Oh no, there is a rift between them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Now, this is definitely the point at which, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to imagine that this particular murder was itself on,

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<v Speaker 1>that it was provoked in anyway. This seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>an unprovoked killing by extraterrestrial one.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, Tracy, what you think Tracy attacked the alien?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Tracy's just Jesus chilling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, the rest of the survivors are all hold up

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<v Speaker 2>in the cabin, oh except Tommy for some reason, like

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<v Speaker 2>he runs off into the bog and fog to find Trumpy.

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<v Speaker 2>And here there is a really weird scene where there's

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<v Speaker 2>a standoff between Uncle Bill and Rick, the jerk lead singer,

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<v Speaker 2>where Uncle Bill's like, have you ever used a gun before?

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<v Speaker 2>And Rick says, I don't need a gun to defend myself,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Uncle Bill says, yeah, you probably pay others

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<v Speaker 2>to defend you. And then Rick aims the rifle at

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<v Speaker 2>Grandpa here at Uncle Bill and then shoots in his

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<v Speaker 2>direction without hitting him. He like shoots a glass beside

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<v Speaker 2>him on the bar, and then everybody's like, why are

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<v Speaker 2>you shooting at Uncle Bill? And he goes, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like anyone bugging me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is the act of a rational character that

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<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to greet.

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<v Speaker 2>For now, Tommy comes back to so he ran off

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<v Speaker 2>into the woods. Then he comes back and he finds

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<v Speaker 2>Trumpy in his bedroom and playful happy music is chiming.

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<v Speaker 2>But then there it begins this mad exchange between Tommy's

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<v Speaker 2>a voice again, this is dubbed by like an adult woman,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and Trumpy's various like head nods and headshakes

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<v Speaker 2>to communicate. So the kid is saying, Trumpy, no, stay there,

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<v Speaker 2>stay away. Why did you kill that girl? Why did

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<v Speaker 2>you kill that girl? Why did you do that? Now

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<v Speaker 2>I can't be your friend anymore. Naughty, Trumpy, very naughty.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they'll kill you. But Trumpy, I think, is able

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<v Speaker 2>to explain himself with head nods somehow. He's like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't me, shaking his head. And then the kid's

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<v Speaker 2>like was it someone else? Did another one do this?

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<v Speaker 2>And Trumpy nods. He's protesting his innocence, and so eventually

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<v Speaker 2>I think Tommy is convinced that Trumpy is innocent, and

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason he dresses Trumpy up like a Jawa like,

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<v Speaker 2>he puts a coat with a hood on over him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what the purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that is. I guess to sneak him out of

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<v Speaker 1>the house. But there are no other children anywhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the vicinity in the film at all, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what Tommy was hoping to pull off with this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just my friend, the bipedal ardvark who wears

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<v Speaker 2>a raincoat. Yeah, so we get another random alien attack.

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<v Speaker 2>The other Trumpy species alien attacks one of the RV

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<v Speaker 2>ladies in the bathroom. We get a mirror scare where

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<v Speaker 2>she wipes the fog off of the bathroom mirror and

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<v Speaker 2>it's standing behind her, and then it attacks. There are

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<v Speaker 2>more scenes of Tommy and Trumpy arguing to Tommy saying

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<v Speaker 2>that you have to hide or they'll kill you. And

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<v Speaker 2>eventually this all comes to a head when the mother

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<v Speaker 2>and Sharon I think see Trumpy like the kids trying

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<v Speaker 2>to sneak him through the house and they're like, there,

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<v Speaker 2>it's that monster. And Tommy tries to explain. He says, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it wants to be our friend. He's good, he's good.

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<v Speaker 2>They all want to be our friends, but we won't

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<v Speaker 2>let them. And of course the mother doesn't believe that,

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<v Speaker 2>so Tommy and Trumpy really have no choice. They flee

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<v Speaker 2>into the woods, and here in the woods, you think

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<v Speaker 2>the other alien is about to sneak up on Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>and give him what for, but Trumpy intervenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we finally have Extraterrestrial one and Extraterrestrial two aka

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<v Speaker 1>Trumpy meeting up in the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, eventually there's a big showdown Uncle Bill and Rick

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<v Speaker 2>that they shoot the other alien, the non Trumpy alien.

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<v Speaker 2>Grandpa is killed in this scuffle, but Rick blasts the

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<v Speaker 2>alien to death and then it, like turbo, buries its

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<v Speaker 2>own body telekinetically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have another self burying monster, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>some of the creatures in Crawl. Yeah, a great effect.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I'd like to see more of it

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<v Speaker 1>in my monster films.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a tearful goodbye between Tommy and Trumpy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like they'll never accept you, Trumpy, we cannot be together.

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<v Speaker 2>And the humans all walk off together, and Trumpy is

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<v Speaker 2>left behind in the woods, and finally he wanders away

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<v Speaker 2>into the mist. You never know if he gets back

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<v Speaker 2>to his home planet or not, or what happens to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He just wanders away, and then roll credits and Rick survives.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the weird choice, perhaps a product of this

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<v Speaker 1>film probably changing its direction and priorities at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in production they're like, oh, we forgot to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>with Rick. Well it's all right, but I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say that the ending to this film. It got me.

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<v Speaker 1>I teared up a that, you know, because the aliens,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, you know, they are good. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just a matter where Okay, Trump is good,

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<v Speaker 1>but the other one is purely evil. Like we have

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<v Speaker 1>that moment where Trumpy is able to communicate with its

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<v Speaker 1>fellow alien, and that seems to maybe even convince him

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<v Speaker 1>of some of this stuff, like, no, okay, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these humans are bad, but Tommy's cool. They have

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<v Speaker 1>this moment, so the aliens are good, Tommy's good. Humanity

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<v Speaker 1>itself is just hostile and violent and mean spirited, and

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy and Trumpy are just too good for the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, but what happens. Tommy has to push Trumpy away,

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<v Speaker 1>He has to send him off into the woods where,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, either he does find a way back to

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<v Speaker 1>his home Planner, or he just lives in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>as like a wild being, like a sasquatch, for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of his life. And we're left wondering, like, can

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy retain his sweetness and goodness as he continues on

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<v Speaker 1>in this world? Is he or is he saying goodbye

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<v Speaker 1>not only to his friend Trump? Is he not only

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<v Speaker 1>pushing Trumpy away from him? But is he pushing away

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<v Speaker 1>his own innocence and his own hope for a sweeter world?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's that's that was all going through

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<v Speaker 1>my head here as I was, I was tearing up

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<v Speaker 1>watching this. Uh, this, this poor extraterrestrial being left in

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<v Speaker 1>the foggy woods and then walking off into the wilderness.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, the gospel of Trumpy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And we also we have some some very potent

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<v Speaker 1>synth music playing over all this, so that that also helped. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like like I said, I'm I know, I'm reading a

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<v Speaker 1>lot into this film. And also this film is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming in the wake of ET. It's patterning itself

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<v Speaker 1>off of existing media, and in doing so, it's retaining

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<v Speaker 1>some of the inherent messages in those in those pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. Also, maybe someone here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was trying to to to get this

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<v Speaker 1>message across. Maybe he was trying to say something about

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<v Speaker 1>about the world and about childhood innocence. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the film does have a heart, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still there's still some heart there. And what heart

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<v Speaker 1>is there is genuine I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder what, you know, what kind of new themes and

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<v Speaker 2>possibilities emerge from a sort of patch over job like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I can't remember if we already said this, I

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<v Speaker 2>at least read about this movie. I think you may

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<v Speaker 2>have alluded to this that it was originally intended to

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<v Speaker 2>be just more of a heartless kind of like alien

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<v Speaker 2>slasher movies, just more like Night Beast or something. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just about an alien that runs around killing people. And

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<v Speaker 2>then ET came out and they were like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 2>got to make this a sweet story about the bond

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<v Speaker 2>between a child and an alien and a child's love

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<v Speaker 2>and friendship from the hearts of space and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>smash those two things together makes for such a weird product,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe also having some elements that would not have

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<v Speaker 2>have been achieved had it just been an attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>create an ET ripoff from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a great question because it kind of reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me again of Gremlins, where the original Gremlins movie, by

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<v Speaker 1>being totally inconsistent, seen to have a core message of haye, kids,

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<v Speaker 1>monsters exist, and there's no Santa Claus, you know, which

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<v Speaker 1>which clearly was nobody's key intention. But I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably what comes comes. This is the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that emerges when priorities shift and the tone changes, and

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<v Speaker 1>the tone is inconsistent throughout a picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Every day I feel closer to doing Grimlins too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think it's it's a grand idea. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should. We should make it be our Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>episode this year. Having done ETV, we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>G two no stopping it all right, well that is

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<v Speaker 1>extraterrestrial visitors or visitors or EVP, or of course the

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<v Speaker 1>hatching of monsters. I think the hatching of monsters is

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<v Speaker 1>really good because it also because we have different types

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<v Speaker 1>of monsters. We have the alien monster and we have

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<v Speaker 1>the human monsters. I think it's a good title. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I kind of wish it's stuck with that across

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<v Speaker 1>translations mm hm. As always, we'd love to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>anyone out there if you have particular thoughts and memories

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<v Speaker 1>insight about this picture. You know, perhaps you know like us,

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<v Speaker 1>grew up watching the ms T three K episode, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>you have prior experience with pod people or extraterrestrial visitors.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely write in and let us know. And hey, if

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<v Speaker 1>you do find a superior copy of the film, out

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<v Speaker 1>there that we're not aware of. Let us know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that if it doesn't exist now, at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, that'll be the next big one, because

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of worse films that get the

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<v Speaker 1>restoration treatment, and I'm not saying that that's bad. It's

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<v Speaker 1>probably just a case of nobody's found superior footage from

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<v Speaker 1>extraterrestrial visitors yet, but I hope they do. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>self buried itself in the Spanish forest somewhere it wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be found. All right, till next time. Weird House

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