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Speaker 2: This is Rob Lamb and I am Joe McCormick, and

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Speaker 2: of course a Weird House Cinema Rewind comes from the

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Speaker 2: vault of Weird House Cinema. This was originally published on

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Speaker 2: September sixteenth, twenty twenty two, and it is our episode

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Speaker 2: on Extraterrestrial Visitors aka pod People.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. This one, of course is a film that was

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Speaker 1: featured on Mystery Science Theater three thousand back in the

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Speaker 1: day and is a richly enjoyable movie on its own.

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Speaker 1: But one of the issues in this episode back when

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Speaker 1: we recorded it is of course that we did not

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Speaker 1: I think the best quality available was pretty grubby. We

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Speaker 1: something magical happened. In the months following our release of

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Speaker 1: the original episode, several films put out an excellent restored

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Speaker 1: Blu ray edition of Extraterrestrial Visitors. I found out about

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Speaker 1: it months later ordered up a copy of it. I

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Speaker 1: have now viewed it and I have to say it

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Speaker 1: is beautiful. If you find any if you find anything

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Speaker 1: of it beautiful. You can actually make out details that

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Speaker 1: are lost otherwise. Like, for instance, there's the character that

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Speaker 1: has the I'm a Virgin T shirt. Well, now you

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Speaker 1: full story there. And just in general, like everything's in

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Speaker 1: just a richer quality. There's still a certain level of

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Speaker 1: grubbiness just because it is still, you know, a Spanish

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Speaker 1: genre picture of the nineteen eighties. But man, it's a

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Speaker 1: fun package. So I highly recommend it to anyone out

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Speaker 1: there who is a fan of extraterrestrial visitors, Spanish genre films,

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Speaker 1: or or of course if you're an MST completist and

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Speaker 1: you want a nice copy of this beloved film. And

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Speaker 1: one more thing, it also has a CD in it

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Speaker 1: that has the soundtrack on it, which which isn't much.

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Speaker 1: It has, you know, just a few of the synthy

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hear the engines roar now, I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I actually got the experience of finding my

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Speaker 1: all the windows and then you know, tearing around town

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Speaker 2: Did you feel the wind in your eyes?

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Speaker 1: I did, felt the wind right in my eyes. All

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Speaker 1: systems will go, all right, let's jump right in.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 2: This is right, and this is Joe McCormick, and we.

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Speaker 1: Are going to the year nineteen eighty three for this one.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be discussing a film that has many names.

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Speaker 1: Its primary title in the United States is Extraterrestrial Visitors,

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Speaker 1: but it is also widely known to Mystery Science Theater

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Speaker 1: three thousand fans as pod People.

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Speaker 2: Strangely, that title has nothing to do with the contents

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Speaker 2: of the movie and makes it sound like it's a

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Speaker 2: ripoff of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, when in fact,

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Speaker 2: it's a ripoff of ET but with much grizzlier elements.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's. My rough understanding of this film is that

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Speaker 1: year after ET. Cute aliens being befriended by children is

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Speaker 1: So it's one of these films that, much like the

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Speaker 2: I'd say even the cute stuff in this movie is grotesque.

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Speaker 2: The scenes with Tommy, the child and his alien friend,

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Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was delightful. Tommy is absolute goodness

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Speaker 2: nineteen thirty one Frankenstein, The Universal Monster Movie, where there

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Like at that point he's like, this is

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Speaker 1: But I'd never really given the film a chance to

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Speaker 1: what los novos extraterrestris, which is the new extraterrestrials, and

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Speaker 2: Because they do come from eggs. One egg is snuggled

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Speaker 1: But it has this wonderful, charming, childlike illustration of Tommy

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Speaker 1: That's Extraterrestrial Visitors. But for the cool kids ETV, it's

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Speaker 1: Let's just call it ETV. Let's just cut straight to it.

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Speaker 1: But Trump is very cute on this. I would say

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Speaker 2: What is the Star Wars character that Trumpy looks like

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Speaker 2: from the most nicely cantina that has a long Ardvark snout?

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Speaker 1: about two different takes in two different languages, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we're talking about one is the live take

435
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: and the other is the dub or as is sometimes

436
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: the case with films of this caliber, if both were

437
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: dubbed and they just and they didn't do sound, I

438
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: don't know. All right. We mentioned Tommy already, Tommy, the

439
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: heart and soul of this film, the sweetness of this film,

440
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: this film's hope for humanity, played by Oscar Martin born

441
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two, a French child actor who I think

442
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: would have been like ten or eleven at the time

443
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: of filming, which coincidentally is the age of my son.

444
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: So I think that's why this film had more of

445
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: an effect on me watching it this as opposed to

446
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: the past, because like, here's here's this child that is,

447
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, that still has all of this innocence in him,

448
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's into cute animals and caring

449
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: for animals and nature, and he has his goodness in him,

450
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of that that reminds

451
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: me of my own son. And there's also this, you know,

452
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: this fear of them growing ever older, getting closer and

453
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: closer to that world of teenagedness in adulthood, and all

454
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: of the complexities of all of that. So I think

455
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: all of this made me think a little bit deeper

456
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: about this film and read more into this film than

457
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: I did in the past.

458
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, this is explaining a lot. Yeah, I suspect

459
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: your son would make better decisions than Tommy does.

460
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. We'll see what is tom We'll

461
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: get into it. I'm trying to remember what Tommy's worst

462
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: decisions are.

463
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, now that I think about it.

464
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe Tommy. It's hard to blame Tommy too much.

465
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: I think if him is essentially kind of unleashing an

466
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: alien horror on everyone, but he doesn't, it's not so

467
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: much his fault.

468
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

469
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say he increases the amount of entanglement

470
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: between the people and the aliens, but maybe that was inevitable.

471
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Martin here playing Tommy is good. I enjoy him.

472
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: I feel like he's a good He does a good

473
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: job as a child actor in this and in the

474
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: English dub. I don't know for certain, but we kind

475
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: of have that same thing going on that we had

476
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: with the House by the Cemetery, where I think we

477
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: might have an adult woman dubbing the voice for Tommy,

478
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: which adds to the sort of weirdness of the whole situation.

479
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep. What was the kid in the house

480
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: by the cemetery was up?

481
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: Bob? Bob? Yes, at least this time a proper child's name, right, Tommy.

482
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: That sounds like a child's name. Bob. That's a grown

483
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: up's name, right, all right. A couple of other actors

484
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: have not there is there are a numerous actors. There

485
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: are really too many human characters in this because the

486
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: band and has just multiple members and hangers on, some

487
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: of which have no real impact on the plot. But Tommy,

488
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: as we learned, Tommy lives with his mom, whose name

489
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: is Molly, played by Concha Queitos born nineteen forty four,

490
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: Spanish actor who worked mostly in TV and was also

491
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: in Slug And then we have and then Tommy's uncle

492
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: Bill lives with them. Uncle Bill is played by Manuel

493
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: Perero who was born in nineteen twenty seven, a Cuban

494
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: born Spanish actor I believe, who has a fairly diverse filmography,

495
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: having appeared in movies that also feature the likes of

496
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: John Finch, Steve Guttenberg, Alan Arkin, Leonard Nimoy, Julian Sands,

497
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Paul McGann and Paul Nashy.

498
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: Of course, Paul Nashy.

499
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

500
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 2: I oh, man, I'm gonna get tripped up a lot

501
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: when we're talking about the plot because this is uncle Bill.

502
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: But I was definitely just thinking of him as grandpa.

503
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: So he is grandpa to me.

504
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's oh, he's awful. He's just a grumpy

505
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: man who distrusts everyone, hates animals.

506
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he really hates Carl and asc Yeah.

507
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so we'll discuss Bill. Uncle Bill is not

508
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: a likable character, all right. And finally, the music. The

509
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: music is definitely I think one of the best attributes

510
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: of the film. The music here was done by Libra Pastor.

511
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: Pastor worked on a handful of Simone films, including pieces

512
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: a Spanish organ player and composer. He was apparently a

513
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: member of the band Los Roberts and the soundtrack was

514
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: released on vinyl in Spain. So some of these films

515
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: we end up talking about were like, oh, what if

516
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: they ever put this out on vinyl, wouldn't that be cool?

517
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: This is one where it came out on vinyl originally.

518
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's put it back out on vinyl.

519
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's available anywhere officially, Like it's

520
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: a digital and it's a digital version. I don't think

521
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: it ever came out on like cassette or CD, but

522
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: it came out on vinyl. And the cover is pretty

523
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: great because it has this wonderful illustration of Tommy looking

524
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: up into the sky and there's like a halo of

525
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: light behind him.

526
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: Los Nuevo's Extra Terrestrace. So comb your local used record

527
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: store if you find a copy right in.

528
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: This has got to be worth a fortune, at least

529
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: to certain very specific individuals. But anyway, the music in

530
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: this is pretty fun that the score anyway, lots of synth,

531
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: very atmospheric at times, also very goofy and carnival ask

532
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: at times. I remember in the MST three K episode

533
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: they distinctly made I think they made of music from

534
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: the Hearts of Space joke in there, because it does

535
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: have that kind of feel at times.

536
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: Did this person THO Will also write the pop song

537
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: that is that is diegetic music within the movie. It

538
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: is the band the song the band sings in the studio.

539
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: I do not know about that. I don't think that

540
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: awful track which is known as idiot Control now among

541
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: MST three k fans, I don't think that's on the

542
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: score album here. And I did note that on IMDb

543
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: there's another individual credited as well for music, and so

544
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: perhaps that individual had something to do with creation of

545
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: that track. I'm not sure.

546
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: I think outside the context of MST the song is

547
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: actually called Burning Rubber Tires, which is a really wonderfully

548
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: attractive name. But I would say this is actually it

549
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: makes for one of the all time great MST skits.

550
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: You know, you watch MST like a lot of times

551
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: the skits are aren't the best part, but the skit

552
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: in the pod People episode where they sing a parody

553
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: of this song is it's got to be top three

554
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: ever on the show.

555
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. Joel does a spoof of it and

556
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: it's it's tremendous. Definitely. This is a situation where were

557
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: watching it unriffed. I still had the echo of a

558
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: number of the rifts in my mind as I was

559
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: watching it.

560
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: Steady as she goes we're flying over trout.

561
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

562
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: Except the weird thing is I thought some of the

563
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: lines they sang in their version that we're just that

564
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: I assumed we're just straight parody are literally the lines

565
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: in the real song, Like I think all I want

566
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: to feel is the wind in my eyes, which is hilarious.

567
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: Is actually the lyric.

568
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: I think it is? Yeah, that just sounds insane, Like,

569
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: if I'm feeling the wind in my eyes, I probably

570
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: need some goggles. Yeah, that's going to dislogic contact lens.

571
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: Okay, you ready to talk about the plot.

572
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 1: Let's get into the plot, all right.

573
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: We get how many movies have we watched recently? I

574
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: feel like this is a really common opening motif we

575
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: open on a starfield, we're just looking at space. It's

576
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: got to be, like, I don't know, at least four

577
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: out of the last seven movies we've done.

578
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And I feel like this one especially is

579
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: kind of an example of how not to do it logically.

580
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you want a logical example of

581
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: how to do it, look at something like John Carpenter's

582
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: The Thing right where we have starfield object entering Earth's

583
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: atmosphere and then we pretty much cut to stuff on Earth.

584
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: We don't go back to space. We were never just

585
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: stuck in space without any hint of action going on.

586
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: But there's something I do like about this opening, actually

587
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: that's a little more stylish than I think most of

588
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: the film is, which is the base beat Star. There

589
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: is like there's kind of a pulse a beat in

590
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: the soundtrack that is synchronized to the flaring of a

591
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: star in the middle of the void. And then of

592
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: course we see after that there's a big explosion. I

593
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: guess that's supposed to be a super nova or something.

594
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, But then there's like a hunk of

595
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: something flying through space toward the camera. And I got

596
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: to say, from what I recall, this is completely different

597
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: from the opening that I remember from the version of

598
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: the movie that's used in the Mystery Science Theater episode,

599
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: which I recall was grainy slow mo footage from a

600
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: totally unrelated movie.

601
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the film Ventures International version, which that's where we

602
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: got the title Pod People, that was based out of

603
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: Atlanta by the way back in the seventies. But the

604
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: version they put out on I assume VHS that they

605
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: used footage from Don dollars nineteen eighty five film Galaxy Invader.

606
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: In the opening, Don Dahler, of course, is the guy

607
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: did Night Beast?

608
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen Galaxy Invader. Galaxy Invader and Night Beast

609
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: have some things in common. Both of them are about

610
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: a an alien that crash lands somewhere in like rural

611
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: Maryland and then runs around scaring people.

612
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we really need to do one of his

613
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: films at some point. They're all basically all the alien

614
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: films anyway, and he has like what three or four

615
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: of them. They're all essentially the same plot. They have

616
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: different and different alien or different aliens in them, but

617
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: they're they're always enjoyable.

618
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: One thing I remember about Night Beast is the the

619
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: the titular Beast has a really cool, like like shiny suit.

620
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: It almost looks like a like a suit like a

621
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: cool like singer from the seventies would wear, like in

622
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: a disco band or something.

623
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he does have a shiny suit, doesn't he.

624
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: But Okay, that's the opening of what wait, which one?

625
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: Which name are we even using to call it? Extraterrestrial Visitors?

626
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: And then we go down to Earth and we're looking

627
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: at the woods of Fog and Bog. We're in Fog

628
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: and Bog territory. The atmosphere again, it kind of reminds

629
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: me of those misty woods with the knights who say, Nie,

630
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: it's very atmospheric. In fact, like you could imagine some

631
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: of these environmental shots being kind of cool in a

632
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: better movie. Like the atmosphere is not bad, it just

633
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: doesn't segue into very compelling action instead of what we

634
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: get is like three poachers kind of bumbling about, arguing

635
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: with each other, and it's like, are we here? Are

636
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 2: you sure?

637
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: Are you sure? You're sure?

638
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: And I think they're trying to steal eagle eggs or something.

639
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like fumbling around for a ladder, they're scaling

640
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: a tree, and they have what they claim to be

641
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: like three grand worth of eggs that they've stolen, like

642
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars worth of eggs they're gonna sell in

643
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: the black market. I was wondering if they might be fabergets.

644
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what is the market for eagle eggs.

645
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: Do people want to cook them and make eagle omelets

646
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: or people trying to hatch eagles? What's the deal?

647
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the bottom line is the very least.

648
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: When we meet these three poachers, they have no respect

649
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: for nature. All they see is profit and they're gonna

650
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: break the break the rules. They're gonna break all rules

651
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: of law and man and alien to get what they want.

652
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: They are bad dudes. And then we zoom out again.

653
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm tired of Earth. Let's go back to space.

654
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: So we just see like auroras of weird energy in space,

655
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: and we see the Earth from orbit and all kinds

656
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: of stuff going on, and then we come back and

657
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: then they're like, Okay, you saw that. Now, let's go

658
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: back to Earth. Here's a kid in bed and he

659
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: gets up out of bed to scold his cat. He's

660
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: talking about, like, naughty kitty. I don't remember why the

661
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: kitty is naughty.

662
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: I gues it's just where it's not supposed to be.

663
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: I think it got up to move around. Okay. He's like,

664
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to take the kitten back to bed. Yeah.

665
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: This is our introduction to Tommy, a child of absolute

666
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: goodness who loves animals in nature, whose room is home

667
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: to roughly one hundred different species that he's carrying or

668
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: they are, and they're not only his charge, they are

669
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: his friends. Oh he's just he is just childhood innocence.

670
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: He is biophilia incarnate. He's he's just uttersweetness in an

671
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: example of what humanity could be on this world or

672
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: in the universe at large. Only likable human in the picture.

673
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful, wide eyed innocence and curiosity. I start contrast

674
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: to the to the grumbling evil of the poachers. And

675
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: then but let's go, let's go check in with the

676
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: poachers again. So something crashes to earth. The poachers I

677
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: think they're hanging out at a campfire where they're like, well,

678
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: let's go investigate. And one of them stumbles into the

679
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: crash site and it is a cave of glowing red fog.

680
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: That's kind of weird.

681
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: But he goes inside. In the cave is full of eggs.

682
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but for some reason, he's like,

683
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: I gotta bash all these eggs. I gotta smash them.

684
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: So he gets a stick or is it a stick

685
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: or a hammer. He's just start bashing all the eggs

686
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: for no reason.

687
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's awful because he happens upon this holy

688
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: grotto of extraterrestrial eggs, and his immediate reaction is just

689
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: to start smashing them all, just like, must destroy all

690
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: of these eggs, and you're like, no, don't do it,

691
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: and he just keeps doing it.

692
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: But oh no, there is something in the cave of

693
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: glowing fog that does not like the egg bashing endeavor.

694
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: We get a POV of some kind of creature that

695
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: comes out from around a corner and attacks and kills

696
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: the poacher.

697
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, this is creature number one, which I guess

698
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: we're to think of as an adult creature or a

699
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: mature creature of this species that was maybe already aboard

700
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: this ship or this or whatever, or this piece of

701
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: its planet, whatever the details may be concerning this thing

702
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: that is crashed with eggs on it. But it's kind of,

703
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: I guess, kind of an egg guardian. It does. I

704
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: don't think it's supposed to be the mother, because we

705
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: later get some testimony from from Trumpy creature number two

706
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: in which he's asked where its mother is, He like

707
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: points to the stars or points at a constellation on

708
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: a map or something. So it's just another creature, a

709
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: mature individual from this species.

710
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: It may be Trumpy's brother or sister, but it is

711
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: not his parent. But we're getting ahead of ourselves because

712
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: we haven't met Trumpy yet, right.

713
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Trump, he's still so egg because not all of the

714
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: eggs are smashed. It'll it will turn out later.

715
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: Right, most of them are smashed. So then we follow

716
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: the poacher some more. And I'm confused about what they're

717
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: doing at this point because at first they were stealing

718
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 2: eagle eggs, but then it shows them like aiming rifles

719
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: at deer, so they just also happened to be hunting

720
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: deer at the same time they are poaching eggs.

721
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: It's confusing because it at first I thought, oh, I

722
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: guess they're gonna shoot deer, because they at one point

723
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: they're like the white haired one, the frank brown character,

724
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: He's like, we got to get out of here. This

725
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: feels weird. There's something weird in the forest. Let's move.

726
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: But then they seem to stop to consider shooting some deer,

727
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: so maybe they're not in that big of a hurry.

728
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: And then they stopped a camp, not in a huge

729
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: hurry after all. And then there are all these scenes

730
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: where Brona is using the rifle to just look at

731
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: things and look at people, doing things. So he's like

732
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: aiming his high powered hunting rifle. I just random people

733
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: in the forest.

734
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 2: It's like the cop and Plan nine from outer space,

735
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: who just points his gun at people whenever he's talking

736
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: to them. Yeah, but let's go back to the house,

737
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 2: so we check in with Tommy. He is we find more.

738
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: We find out more about his innate curiosity because he

739
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: is examining a centipede under a microscope and he's looking

740
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: at all the little legs and the overlapping plates and

741
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: the body segments and the parts, and you can tell

742
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: how much he just loves learning about the natural world.

743
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 2: But uh oh, the fact that he's looking at at

744
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: a creature under a microscope, this leads to conflict with

745
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: the guy I was thinking of his grandpa. But this

746
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: is uncle Bill. Uncle Bill. Apparently he does not like

747
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: the book Learning It is Witchcraft.

748
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. It's mentioned that it's the centipede, and

749
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: Tommy gives the what is supposedly the scientific classification for

750
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: the species, and Uncle Bill just hates this. He's like, no,

751
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: it's a centipede to me. We call that a centipede.

752
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: And it's just heated over it heated this man is awful,

753
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: and even Mom is not much help. She's like, well,

754
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: it's dirty. It's like it shouldn't be in here, Like

755
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: there's just Tommy has all this sweetness and innocence and curiosity,

756
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: and it's just like Uncle Bill's just just pounding it

757
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: into the dirt as to the best of his ability.

758
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: There is far more bacteria on Uncle Bill than there

759
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: is on the centipede.

760
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, Plus, you should be so lucky as

761
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: to have this beautiful predator in your house hunting other pets,

762
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: especially if it were a house centipede, which you know

763
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: has spread with humanity around the world, and there a

764
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: specially known for praying on all sorts of things you

765
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: don't want in your house, like like like bedbugs, for example, cockroaches.

766
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, like you want a house centipede around.

767
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Finally we get to the band or the what

768
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: do you call that? I guess when I think of

769
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: a band, I think of people who play instruments. This

770
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: is a singing group, a group of singers.

771
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, none of them are actually playing an instrument, right,

772
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: there's just right.

773
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: They're just singing over a pre recorded track. So we

774
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: see them recording in the studio, they're flying over Trout

775
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: and by this point we've essentially established the three movie formula.

776
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: I know Mystery Science Theater also thought about the movie

777
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: this way, but it makes a lot of sense. You

778
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 2: got movie A, which is the Poacher's, Movie B, which

779
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: is the Child with Pets, and then movie C, which

780
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: is the singing Group.

781
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this toxic bunch of band members, and they're various

782
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: hangers on and producers. They're just they're just awful, Like

783
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: this whole scene, like they're doing this terrible number, and

784
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: Rick is just a perfectionist, an abusive perfectionist about the

785
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: whole thing. He's like, it's awful, it stinks. We're taking

786
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: it from the top. Like you get the impression that

787
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: he's one of these guys who's like, we're gonna do

788
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: five hundred takes of this scene until we get it.

789
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep doing this track until we're exhausted, until

790
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: we get it right. And of course they're not scaling

791
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: Mount Everest here. We heard the song. We know that

792
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: it is absolutely garbage.

793
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, thinking of other people who do ridiculous excessive numbers

794
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: of takes, I think of like Stanley Kubrick or something

795
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: and not that this makes that behavior acceptable, because I mean,

796
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: even then, I think it could be considered wildly excessive,

797
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: abusive to the cast and stuff. But at least with Kubrick,

798
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: you end up with a good movie.

799
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one thing if you're talking about someone who

800
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: has also has a reputation for high quality work, Like

801
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: I want to say that there are similar tales about

802
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: Doctor dre being very perfectionists when it comes to producing

803
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: tracks and all. Yeah, but at the end of the

804
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: end of the day, do you have a Doctor Dre

805
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: produced track, do you have a Stanley Kubrick directed film?

806
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: You have idiot control?

807
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: Now this is the wind in my eyes. But okay,

808
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: So they sing the song and then Rick, the lead singer,

809
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: is hideously abusive to all of the other singers. And

810
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: then they're all going to pile into an RV and

811
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: go up to the mountains for the weekend.

812
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Perfect, everybody getting along. Great, let's take this to

813
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: a crowded camper and head out to a crowded gabin somewhere.

814
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: Oh, and then there's conflict over the fact that so

815
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: they like open up the door to the RV. It's like, well,

816
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: we all hate each other and we've been fighting. So

817
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: let's let's go on to you know, spend the weekend

818
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: in the woods. And they open the door to the

819
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: r V and then here is like a lady who

820
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: introduces herself as Laura. They say that she is the

821
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: daughter of the boss of the record label. I think,

822
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: so it's like they've got to be nice to her

823
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: because you know, her dad is deciding their musical fate.

824
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: But immediately this causes problems between Rick the Jerk and

825
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: his girlfriend Sharon, because it's for some reason immediately clear

826
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: that Rick and Laura this other lady are gonna, you know,

827
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: they're gonna get together. And this other guy goes up,

828
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: like the nice guy. I think his name is Brian.

829
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: He goes up to the girlfriend Sharon, and he's like,

830
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. He says, this is a quote

831
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: making out with chicks is part of his act as

832
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: an artist. Smooth, very smooth.

833
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: Just every everyone in this group is awful or they're

834
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: enabling of awfulness. It's yeah, but also it works.

835
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: He says that, and she's like, yeah, you're right, but okay,

836
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, so let's go on a road trip with

837
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: people we hate and then there's a lot of driving scenes.

838
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: We see them going up and down roads and the

839
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 2: RV and winding along while the music plays.

840
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, more time is spent getting these characters to the

841
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: countryside than getting that space rock from its origin to

842
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: the Earth.

843
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, we got to check in with Tommy. And here's

844
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: where things really start to cook, because Tommy runs off

845
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: into the woods and he stumbles across the glowing red

846
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: cave and he goes inside into the red fog and

847
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: he sees a dead man with led lights on his

848
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 2: forehead in the pattern of the shape of the Big Dipper.

849
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: And then Tommy's like, oh, it was a dead man

850
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: with the Big Dipper on his head. Better steal one

851
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: of these alien eggs.

852
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: Now.

853
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: I want to ask this is a recurring motif where

854
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: people in the movie who are killed by the aliens

855
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: end up with the Big Dipper on their forehead in lights,

856
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering, number one, why does that happen? And

857
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: number two, how does that happen?

858
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a lot of questions about this too.

859
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: Later on Trump he indicates that this is his home constellation,

860
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: like this is where his mother is. So I guess

861
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: Alien number one the non trumpye is killing people, or

862
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: in some cases, perhaps finding dead people and riding the

863
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: constellation on their forehead or making it appear with phosphorescent

864
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: spores or something. Who knows what the xenobiological rationale is here,

865
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure why it would do. This is

866
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: like it would be like us riding earth on dead

867
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: aliens that we killed. It. I mean, I understand they

868
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: want to go home, but you're not going to achieve

869
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: that by just riding home on the forehead of your victims.

870
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure. I guess it's one of these

871
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: things that don't overthink it. It looks kind of cool,

872
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of a neat effect. It just doesn't make

873
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of sense.

874
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: All Right, I won't overthink it from now on. That's

875
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: just what happens. So, yeah, Tommy grabs one of these eggs.

876
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 2: He's like, well, I'm going to take this back home.

877
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's religious. Maybe it's like, oh, like we're thinking

878
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: it's something bad, but as we as we later look

879
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: like these these aliens they just want to be our friends.

880
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: Maybe this is like last rites for them. Huh.

881
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, so here's a thing we're thinking about an

882
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: alien from the direction of the constellation of the Big

883
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: Dipper would not see like it itself, would not look

884
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: up into the sky and see the Big Dipper as

885
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: the Big Dipper. That is a feature of our perspective

886
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: from Earth. So if it were doing this in some

887
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: ritual way, it would have to be sort of for

888
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: our benefit or in an earth directed sense, you know

889
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like that wouldn't be a native piece

890
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: of imagery for them.

891
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: Hmm yeah, well in that case it doesn't make any sense. Sorry, Trumpy,

892
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: I can't help you.

893
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: But anyway, So Tommy takes the boy home and we're

894
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: gonna have some some good times with the egg. He

895
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: sneaks the egg into his bedroom. He you know, he

896
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: talks to his animals. I think his mom's like, Tommy,

897
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: what were you out you know, what were you doing

898
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: out there? And Tommy lies, he says, kitty was me owing.

899
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: I thought he was hungry. But then after mom goes away,

900
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: Tommy tells all of his other animals, you just wait

901
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: and see, you're gonna have a new friend soon. And

902
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: then the kid goes to sleep.

903
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: Hugging the egg.

904
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: So so sweet. Now back to the kids, the not

905
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: the kids. I mean the I don't know, the people

906
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: in the RV, the singers, they're up to no good.

907
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: They're just again just being nasty. Like the record executive's

908
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: daughter Laura. She goes up to Rick the jerk in

909
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 2: the woods, and she's like kiss me Rick, and he's like, well, okay,

910
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: and then she immediately in the next scene, they're like

911
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: sitting around a campfire and she's taunting Rick's girlfriend, like,

912
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: tell her what we did in the woods. Rick, And

913
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why. They're just like absolutely unnecessarily cruel

914
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: to each other in a way that doesn't even make

915
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: sense as like normal types of cruelty. It just it's weird.

916
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just left feeling like these are all just

917
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: horrible people and I don't care if an alien kills

918
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: them in the woods.

919
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: But this leads to this leads to Sharon like throwing

920
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: water in Laura's face or something, and then Laura runs

921
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 2: away and then what did you think happened here? What

922
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: I thought happened was she like saw the poachers and

923
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: then got scared and fell off the edge of a cliff.

924
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: But oh, not only saw the poachers, but one of

925
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: the poachers, the non Frank Bronna poacher and the non

926
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: egg smasher one who's dead of course, you know, the

927
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: non Frank Brona attempts to grab her and like abduct

928
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: her or assault her or something, and so he runs

929
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: away from from him, and then she runs off the

930
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: side of a cliff and falls seems like quite a distance.

931
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: She falls enough to where she's not completely unconscious at least.

932
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so they eventually the RV people come and

933
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: find her, and they take her back to the RV

934
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: and they try to I don't know what does this

935
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: medical scene.

936
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, okay, she at least has a severe concussion,

937
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: so let's tuck her into bed and pour liquor down

938
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: her throat. So they get a bottle of Jack Daniels

939
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: or something, and they're treating it like it's a potion

940
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: of greater healing or something.

941
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: But so they eventually they're gonna they're gonna show up

942
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: at the house, right, So they arrive at the house

943
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: of Tommy's family asking to use a phone. You know,

944
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: our friend is hurt. We need to call for help.

945
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: Uh and uh, And how does the family react. Uncle

946
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: Bill doesn't take kindly to strangers of course.

947
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he grabs a gun. That's his first reaction to

948
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: the strangers at his door pleading for help, and his

949
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: attitude does not improve much at all when he finds

950
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: out that they're in trouble. He's just like, all right,

951
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: I guess we let him in the house. Yeah.

952
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the phones of course are out. Uh they

953
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 2: say because of the storm. But I don't think we've

954
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: seen a storm.

955
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: It's just I guess all that fog, that just hideous

956
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: fog bank that's rolled in. It's just destroying phone lines

957
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: and everything else.

958
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: Here's a metal band name Storm of Fog.

959
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: There you go. I like it. Oh.

960
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: Also, the road is blocked so they can't leave, so

961
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: they're just stuck here at the house, and they realize

962
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to spend the night and tomorrow they'll

963
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 2: go find a radio in the ranger's cabin and then

964
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: use that to call for help. So this place must

965
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: be very seclude.

966
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: I noticed that they didn't make much use of it.

967
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: But they had a bar in this film, in the

968
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: in this environment, in this cabin that reminded me a

969
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: lot of the bar in The Devil Girl from Mars.

970
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: Yes, really well stocked lots of brown liquors.

971
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, multiple shelves, Like that's an extensive liquor collection.

972
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know, we don't really see people sitting

973
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: around enjoying it. I guess they just didn't have time

974
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: with all that's happening here.

975
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the poachers are out camping in the woods, and

976
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: if they're having a hard time, I thought they were

977
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: going to be getting out of there, but they're just

978
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 2: hanging around for some reason. I don't understand what the

979
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: poachers are doing.

980
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, they at first they acted like they realized something

981
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: was wrong and they needed to get the heck out

982
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: of Dodge, But then they're not. There's no real rush.

983
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: Later on they're like, all right, well, I guess we're

984
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: walking out of here. They seem concerned about the fact

985
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: that their truck is gone, but they don't really do

986
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: anything about it. They accept that. The really bad poacher says, well,

987
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: couldn't we steal those kids camper? And he's like, like,

988
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: you idiot, you can't do that. Were already doing enough

989
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: crimes here, we don't need more crimes.

990
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the bearded one that wants to take the RV.

991
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: The other guys Frank Burana is more like, that'll get

992
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: us into more trouble.

993
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just here to poach eggs. We're not here

994
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: to kidnap, we're not here to steal vehicles. And the

995
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: bearded guys like, well, we could do all those things.

996
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: We have time, let's do those things.

997
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: But so they're camping out in the woods and they, oh,

998
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: they encounter an alien. And I think this is the

999
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: first time we actually get a look at what the

1000
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: alien body forms are like in this movie. So the

1001
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: alien is like because sort of a furry squat Chewbacca

1002
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: style body, but much shorter, and then the head has

1003
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: like a pointy apex on top, and then long ardvark

1004
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: snout and then pointy l fears.

1005
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: I thought this scene was rather effective because when we

1006
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: see the creature here, and granted we have some context

1007
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: as well, we've seen presumably we've seen it kill already,

1008
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: but you know, it looks a little bit cute. There's

1009
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: some cuteness here. It's not just completely monstrous, but there's

1010
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: an uncanniness to it as well. And then also the

1011
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: lighting is very dark. The human characters here are being

1012
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: very cautious around it. And then another thing that I

1013
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: really like about the extraterrestrials in this film is the

1014
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: eyes they created for them are very expressive. They're very glassy,

1015
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: like living looking eyes that I think give them a

1016
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: lot of character.

1017
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: But to keep up with your theory that the alien

1018
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: only turns murderous because it is repeatedly exposed to aggression

1019
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: from humans early on, So it walks up to the campfire.

1020
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what its original plan is, but they

1021
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: start shooting it with a crossbow.

1022
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're kind of like the bearded guy, he kind

1023
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: of he's like, hey, come on in. He's trying to

1024
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: small talk the alien. He's offering it a big grotesque

1025
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: piece of meat that they've been cooking over the fire.

1026
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: You know, just already kind of an unsettling display. But

1027
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: then Frank Brona tries to net it. They fire a

1028
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: crossbow bolt at it, and the bolt hits it in

1029
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: the hits the alien in the chest. So yeah, these

1030
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: are not good ambassadors of humanity.

1031
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back at the house, uh oh, that egg's hatching.

1032
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: It pops open. There's a little kind of greasy, slimy

1033
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 2: little alien in there.

1034
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: So cute. So it's not cute yet it's already cute.

1035
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: It's already cute. It's the slimy little like like fetal

1036
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: elephant creature. And yeah, I don't know, I thought it

1037
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: was cute.

1038
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I won't argue with you. He starts feeding the

1039
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: alien food. It's eating a lot. It really enjoys vacuuming

1040
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: up milk with its snout. He names it Trumpy. I

1041
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: assume that's because it has a long snout, and so

1042
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: that is like a trump beet. I don't think that's

1043
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: ever made explicit, but that's what I guess.

1044
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. It could also originate in one of

1045
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: the two original languages for the film. I don't know.

1046
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it makes even more sense in French or in Spanish.

1047
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1048
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: But the kids like, oh, we're going to play now

1049
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: that you're getting bigger. Do you know what playing is? Trumpy?

1050
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: And Trumpy does not know, but Trumpy will find out.

1051
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: So this is the world that Trumpy is introduced to.

1052
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: This is the human world that he's introduced to, a

1053
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: world of copious amounts of food. A lot of it

1054
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: is breakfast, cereals, toys, play, friendship, all the things that

1055
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: were denied to extraterrestrial one.

1056
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: But remember now this is all taking place in the

1057
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: same house where the RV singers are staying overnight, and

1058
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: apparently Laura, the record executive's daughter who fell off the cliff,

1059
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: she dies overnight and they come and see her, and

1060
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: they see something is horrible about her face. We already

1061
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: know what it is. It's going to be the Big

1062
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: Dipper with the lights. But I guess overnight, also Trumpy

1063
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: becomes much bigger. He grows from like the size of

1064
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 2: a little toy on the on the shelf to basically

1065
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: the same size as Tommy. And we see that this

1066
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: great scene that is hilarious in the Mystery Science Theater

1067
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: version where Trumpy is just surveying the buffet of Tommy's pets,

1068
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: panting over the rabbits and the hamsters and the cat

1069
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 2: and all that stuff.

1070
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they make some great riffs in that episode about

1071
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: him considering eating all these animals. But in the original

1072
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: film he does not eat any of the animals. And

1073
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: I kind of get the sense that these are vegetarians,

1074
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: that they don't eat meat, which makes the earlier offering

1075
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: of the grotesque meat by the bearded poacher even more fitting.

1076
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: You know, he's like, like, come here, organism. Would you

1077
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: like some organism?

1078
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: But in the scene we also discover via interactions with

1079
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: a toy robot that Trumpy has telekinesis.

1080
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh yes, like not even just a little bit, like

1081
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: not just a little bit of carry white, but like

1082
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: full power carry white, like full almost godline telekinetic powers. Well.

1083
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 2: ET does too. I think this is an ET touch

1084
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: from ET.

1085
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, does E t like bring the whole room to life?

1086
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: It's been so long since I've seen ET.

1087
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: I think so.

1088
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1089
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 2: I think there's a scene where ET does basically the

1090
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: same thing Trump. He does, like makes all the you know,

1091
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: the toys fly around and stuff.

1092
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: I feel like Trump he probably does it better. I

1093
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: feel like I'm If I were to watch ET again,

1094
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: I would side with the Trumpy got because Trumpy basically

1095
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: uses a Simon game to cut a synth track like

1096
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: this Carnival synth track that starts playing like Trumpy does

1097
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: this by manipulating the Simon software.

1098
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: I did not expect your take on this movie to

1099
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: be so anti ET.

1100
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: I mean, ET's fine, you can't hate ET, but but

1101
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: I also I don't. I've also I've seen ET like

1102
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: once in my life. I've seen pod people or extraterrestrial

1103
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: visitors multiple multiple times.

1104
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: What else does Trumpy eat? So I'm trying to think

1105
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: do they ever feed him meat? Him suck up a

1106
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: bunch of milk. We see Tommy bring him, oh, a

1107
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: big old thing of Planters peanuts and you can see

1108
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: the label, So, I mean Planters surely they paid for

1109
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: that place.

1110
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: You know they did this the Reese's treatment, right.

1111
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: And they do a special effect where you know, Trumpy's

1112
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: snout is like a vacuum cleaner and it's sucking up

1113
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: all the peanuts. When we in this scene, we get

1114
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: some really good looks at Trumpy's eyes. I notice Trumpy

1115
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: has a vertical slit pupils cat ooh nice.

1116
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah again, these are lovely eyes. You know, whoever did

1117
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: this this costume? I feel like they they kind of

1118
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: knocked it out of the park. I like it.

1119
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: But Trumpy learns puzzles and games. He telekinetically solves a

1120
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: puzzle and manipulates a Simon says thing, Uh, there's a

1121
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: there's a bonding scene where Tommy is drawing and he

1122
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: draws this hideous picture and says, that's my mommy. Do

1123
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: you have a mommy.

1124
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, his picture of his mom looks like a rick

1125
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: Flare Paz to Spencer, Yep.

1126
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: It Also it looks absolutely nothing like his mommy, Like

1127
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: it's not even close, not even the same hair color.

1128
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: But anyway, this is the Trumpy. You can do magic

1129
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: things here the scene, and Trumpy turns the child's bedroom

1130
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: into a living nightmare of carnival music, flickering lights, dancing toys,

1131
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: terrorizing the pets. He sticks to the ceiling like Baron Harkoneen.

1132
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: It's great.

1133
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also his eyes glow like stars. It's it's

1134
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: pretty great.

1135
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: Now. Is this the scene where Trumpy says where his

1136
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: mommy is and points out the constellation?

1137
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: I think so, because I think he shows in the

1138
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: picture Tommy's picture of his own mommy, and he says,

1139
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: where's your mommy? And He's like he points, and Tommy's like, oh,

1140
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: your mommy, You mean the trees. Your mommy's in the

1141
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: trees And he's like, no, Trump, He points that the

1142
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,959
Speaker 1: map of the constellations and causes one of the constellations,

1143
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: the one of the dip, to glow.

1144
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, exactly like an et. Also, there's a whole

1145
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: thing of Tommy trying to hide Trumpy from his family,

1146
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: like hiding him in the closet and stuff. Obviously this

1147
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: is more difficult. Well, while Trumpy is playing DJ in

1148
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: the bedroom.

1149
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: But there's the distraction of a dead woman downstairs, so

1150
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: I guess that probably helps cover things up. They're not

1151
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: as concerned about what new animal Tommy has a snuck

1152
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: into the house. But at one point, maybe later, but

1153
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: Mom gets short with Tommy and she's like, like, oh,

1154
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: more animals. They're all going out tomorrow. Yeah, that sounds

1155
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: kind of kind of harsh, Mom. You know, he loves

1156
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: these animals even don't get you.

1157
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: Come on, that's an empty threat. But meanwhile, speaking of

1158
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: Grizzly murders, Grandpa and one of the r V kids

1159
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: they go off looking for the ranger station. I think

1160
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: this is the guy Brian who earlier was like, hey,

1161
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: you know, don't worry about Rick making out with other girls.

1162
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: That's just part of his act. Brian and Uncle Bill

1163
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: they go to the ranger station. Uncle Bill just walks

1164
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: around pointing his gun at everything, and they find one

1165
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: of the poachers inside, but he is dead and he's

1166
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 2: got a big dipper in lights on his forehead, just

1167
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: like everybody else, and then one of the aliens attacks them.

1168
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: It seemingly kills the RV dude, and Grandpa escapes. Now

1169
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: here's a question I wonder about. Are we are we

1170
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 2: as the audience, supposed to be wondering if this is

1171
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: Trumpy doing the killing since in the scene right before this,

1172
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: Trumpy sneaks off and disappears. Or are we supposed to

1173
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: assume that this is a different alien that just looks

1174
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: identical to Trumpy. I think we discover it is a

1175
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: different alien, but I don't know if that's intentionally supposed

1176
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: to be an open question or not.

1177
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure on this because it seems like,

1178
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: on one hand, the killing started before Trump be hatched,

1179
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: So if we're just looking at the timeline of events,

1180
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: we can't pin all the murders on Trump. There has

1181
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: to be another a primary alien out there, extraterrestrial one.

1182
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: So I don't I have a hard time understanding how

1183
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: we the viewer are supposed to think Trumpy might be

1184
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: doing this. But also it's hard to reflect on this

1185
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: because it's been so long since I had a fresh

1186
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: viewing of this, Like it seems like I've always known

1187
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: that Trumpy was innocent and incapable of murder.

1188
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: He is blameless. Did you notice the Ranger cabin in

1189
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: the woods here has framed portraits of Ronald Reagan on

1190
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: the wall.

1191
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that made me laugh. I feel like there

1192
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: was after I saw it. I have a vague recollection

1193
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: of there being a riff about the Gipper or something

1194
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: in the most two three K episode. But it is

1195
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: an odd inclusion because this again is Spain. It's supposed

1196
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: to be Spain, and it's filmed in Spain. I don't

1197
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: know why Ronald Reagan's on the wall.

1198
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: So we see the alien kill another one of the

1199
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: band members. This is the singer Tracy. He just he

1200
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: kills her in the r V and uh oh. This

1201
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: time Tommy happens to be looking through the telescope down

1202
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: at the RV outside I guess to witness this, and

1203
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 2: because the aliens look the same, he thinks Trumpy is

1204
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: the killer. Oh no, there is a rift between them.

1205
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: Now. Now, this is definitely the point at which, yeah,

1206
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine that this particular murder was itself on,

1207
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: that it was provoked in anyway. This seemed to be

1208
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: an unprovoked killing by extraterrestrial one.

1209
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, Tracy, what you think Tracy attacked the alien?

1210
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: No?

1211
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean Tracy's just Jesus chilling.

1212
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1213
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: Anyway, the rest of the survivors are all hold up

1214
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: in the cabin, oh except Tommy for some reason, like

1215
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: he runs off into the bog and fog to find Trumpy.

1216
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: And here there is a really weird scene where there's

1217
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: a standoff between Uncle Bill and Rick, the jerk lead singer,

1218
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: where Uncle Bill's like, have you ever used a gun before?

1219
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: And Rick says, I don't need a gun to defend myself,

1220
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: and then Uncle Bill says, yeah, you probably pay others

1221
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: to defend you. And then Rick aims the rifle at

1222
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: Grandpa here at Uncle Bill and then shoots in his

1223
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: direction without hitting him. He like shoots a glass beside

1224
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: him on the bar, and then everybody's like, why are

1225
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 2: you shooting at Uncle Bill? And he goes, I don't

1226
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: like anyone bugging me.

1227
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the act of a rational character that

1228
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: we're supposed to greet.

1229
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: For now, Tommy comes back to so he ran off

1230
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: into the woods. Then he comes back and he finds

1231
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: Trumpy in his bedroom and playful happy music is chiming.

1232
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: But then there it begins this mad exchange between Tommy's

1233
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: a voice again, this is dubbed by like an adult woman,

1234
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: I think, and Trumpy's various like head nods and headshakes

1235
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: to communicate. So the kid is saying, Trumpy, no, stay there,

1236
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: stay away. Why did you kill that girl? Why did

1237
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 2: you kill that girl? Why did you do that? Now

1238
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: I can't be your friend anymore. Naughty, Trumpy, very naughty.

1239
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: Now they'll kill you. But Trumpy, I think, is able

1240
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: to explain himself with head nods somehow. He's like, no, no,

1241
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't me, shaking his head. And then the kid's

1242
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: like was it someone else? Did another one do this?

1243
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: And Trumpy nods. He's protesting his innocence, and so eventually

1244
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: I think Tommy is convinced that Trumpy is innocent, and

1245
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: for some reason he dresses Trumpy up like a Jawa like,

1246
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: he puts a coat with a hood on over him.

1247
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the purpose.

1248
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: Of that is. I guess to sneak him out of

1249
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: the house. But there are no other children anywhere in

1250
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: the vicinity in the film at all, so I don't

1251
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: know exactly what Tommy was hoping to pull off with this.

1252
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 2: This is just my friend, the bipedal ardvark who wears

1253
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: a raincoat. Yeah, so we get another random alien attack.

1254
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: The other Trumpy species alien attacks one of the RV

1255
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: ladies in the bathroom. We get a mirror scare where

1256
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: she wipes the fog off of the bathroom mirror and

1257
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: it's standing behind her, and then it attacks. There are

1258
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: more scenes of Tommy and Trumpy arguing to Tommy saying

1259
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: that you have to hide or they'll kill you. And

1260
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: eventually this all comes to a head when the mother

1261
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: and Sharon I think see Trumpy like the kids trying

1262
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: to sneak him through the house and they're like, there,

1263
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: it's that monster. And Tommy tries to explain. He says, no,

1264
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,479
Speaker 2: it wants to be our friend. He's good, he's good.

1265
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: They all want to be our friends, but we won't

1266
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: let them. And of course the mother doesn't believe that,

1267
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: so Tommy and Trumpy really have no choice. They flee

1268
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: into the woods, and here in the woods, you think

1269
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: the other alien is about to sneak up on Tommy

1270
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 2: and give him what for, but Trumpy intervenes.

1271
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we finally have Extraterrestrial one and Extraterrestrial two aka

1272
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: Trumpy meeting up in the woods.

1273
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: Now, eventually there's a big showdown Uncle Bill and Rick

1274
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: that they shoot the other alien, the non Trumpy alien.

1275
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 2: Grandpa is killed in this scuffle, but Rick blasts the

1276
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 2: alien to death and then it, like turbo, buries its

1277
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: own body telekinetically.

1278
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have another self burying monster, kind of like

1279
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: some of the creatures in Crawl. Yeah, a great effect.

1280
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: I like it. I'd like to see more of it

1281
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: in my monster films.

1282
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: And there's a tearful goodbye between Tommy and Trumpy. You know,

1283
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: it's like they'll never accept you, Trumpy, we cannot be together.

1284
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 2: And the humans all walk off together, and Trumpy is

1285
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 2: left behind in the woods, and finally he wanders away

1286
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: into the mist. You never know if he gets back

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Speaker 2: to his home planet or not, or what happens to him.

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Speaker 2: He just wanders away, and then roll credits and Rick survives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the weird choice, perhaps a product of this

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Speaker 1: film probably changing its direction and priorities at some point

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Speaker 1: in production they're like, oh, we forgot to do anything

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Speaker 1: with Rick. Well it's all right, but I have to

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Speaker 1: say that the ending to this film. It got me.

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Speaker 1: I teared up a that, you know, because the aliens,

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Speaker 1: it turns out, you know, they are good. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: it's not just a matter where Okay, Trump is good,

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Speaker 1: but the other one is purely evil. Like we have

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Speaker 1: that moment where Trumpy is able to communicate with its

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Speaker 1: fellow alien, and that seems to maybe even convince him

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Speaker 1: of some of this stuff, like, no, okay, a lot

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Speaker 1: of these humans are bad, but Tommy's cool. They have

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Speaker 1: this moment, so the aliens are good, Tommy's good. Humanity

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Speaker 1: itself is just hostile and violent and mean spirited, and

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Speaker 1: Tommy and Trumpy are just too good for the world.

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Speaker 1: And so, but what happens. Tommy has to push Trumpy away,

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Speaker 1: He has to send him off into the woods where,

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Speaker 1: you know, either he does find a way back to

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Speaker 1: his home Planner, or he just lives in the woods

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Speaker 1: as like a wild being, like a sasquatch, for the

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Speaker 1: rest of his life. And we're left wondering, like, can

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Speaker 1: Tommy retain his sweetness and goodness as he continues on

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Speaker 1: in this world? Is he or is he saying goodbye

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Speaker 1: not only to his friend Trump? Is he not only

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Speaker 1: pushing Trumpy away from him? But is he pushing away

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Speaker 1: his own innocence and his own hope for a sweeter world?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's that's that was all going through

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Speaker 1: my head here as I was, I was tearing up

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Speaker 1: watching this. Uh, this, this poor extraterrestrial being left in

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Speaker 1: the foggy woods and then walking off into the wilderness.

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Speaker 2: Wow, the gospel of Trumpy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And we also we have some some very potent

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Speaker 1: synth music playing over all this, so that that also helped. So,

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Speaker 1: like like I said, I'm I know, I'm reading a

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Speaker 1: lot into this film. And also this film is you know,

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Speaker 1: it's coming in the wake of ET. It's patterning itself

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Speaker 1: off of existing media, and in doing so, it's retaining

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Speaker 1: some of the inherent messages in those in those pictures.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. Also, maybe someone here, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was he was trying to to to get this

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Speaker 1: message across. Maybe he was trying to say something about

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Speaker 1: about the world and about childhood innocence. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the film does have a heart, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's still there's still some heart there. And what heart

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Speaker 1: is there is genuine I.

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Speaker 2: Wonder what, you know, what kind of new themes and

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Speaker 2: possibilities emerge from a sort of patch over job like this.

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Speaker 2: Because I can't remember if we already said this, I

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Speaker 2: at least read about this movie. I think you may

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Speaker 2: have alluded to this that it was originally intended to

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Speaker 2: be just more of a heartless kind of like alien

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Speaker 2: slasher movies, just more like Night Beast or something. It's

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Speaker 2: just about an alien that runs around killing people. And

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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: then ET came out and they were like, oh, we

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01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 2: got to make this a sweet story about the bond

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Speaker 2: between a child and an alien and a child's love

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Speaker 2: and friendship from the hearts of space and trying to

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01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: smash those two things together makes for such a weird product,

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Speaker 2: but maybe also having some elements that would not have

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01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: have been achieved had it just been an attempt to

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01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: create an ET ripoff from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question because it kind of reminds

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01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: me again of Gremlins, where the original Gremlins movie, by

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: being totally inconsistent, seen to have a core message of haye, kids,

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01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: monsters exist, and there's no Santa Claus, you know, which

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Speaker 1: which clearly was nobody's key intention. But I think that's

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Speaker 1: probably what comes comes. This is the kind of thing

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Speaker 1: that emerges when priorities shift and the tone changes, and

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Speaker 1: the tone is inconsistent throughout a picture.

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Speaker 2: Every day I feel closer to doing Grimlins too.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it's it's a grand idea. I

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Speaker 1: think we should. We should make it be our Christmas

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01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: episode this year. Having done ETV, we have to do

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Speaker 1: G two no stopping it all right, well that is

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Speaker 1: extraterrestrial visitors or visitors or EVP, or of course the

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Speaker 1: hatching of monsters. I think the hatching of monsters is

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Speaker 1: really good because it also because we have different types

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Speaker 1: of monsters. We have the alien monster and we have

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01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: the human monsters. I think it's a good title. I

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Speaker 1: wish I kind of wish it's stuck with that across

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Speaker 1: translations mm hm. As always, we'd love to hear from

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Speaker 1: anyone out there if you have particular thoughts and memories

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: insight about this picture. You know, perhaps you know like us,

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01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: grew up watching the ms T three K episode, perhaps

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01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: you have prior experience with pod people or extraterrestrial visitors.

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Speaker 1: Definitely write in and let us know. And hey, if

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Speaker 1: you do find a superior copy of the film, out

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 1: there that we're not aware of. Let us know. I'm

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01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: hoping that if it doesn't exist now, at some point

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01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: in the future, that'll be the next big one, because

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01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: there are a lot of worse films that get the

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01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: restoration treatment, and I'm not saying that that's bad. It's

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01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: probably just a case of nobody's found superior footage from

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01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial visitors yet, but I hope they do. Maybe it's

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01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 1: self buried itself in the Spanish forest somewhere it wants

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01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: to be found. All right, till next time. Weird House

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