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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Playing Buck kicks off right now. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being here with us. Govenoran DeSantis of

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Speaker 2: Florida will be joining us at the bottom of the hour,

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Speaker 2: so stick around for that. Talk to him about how

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Speaker 2: he thinks campaign's going, and get into some of the

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Speaker 2: important policy questions that we're all thinking about these days,

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Speaker 2: you know, like the economy, what's happening in this country.

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Speaker 2: But I don't often spend we don't often talk much

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Speaker 2: about what's going on in Ukraine in art because I think,

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Speaker 2: for one, there's a lot of people who have turned

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Speaker 2: this into something that it's not, which is a core

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Speaker 2: and essential American interest abroad. You'll hear this from both

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Speaker 2: Republicans and Democrats, particularly from Democrats, though on the whole

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Speaker 2: Ukraine flags, the number of people who have Ukraine flags

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Speaker 2: and or had Ukraine flags and vaccine needles in their

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Speaker 2: Facebook or Twitter bios or their email signatures really proved

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Speaker 2: I think beyond any doubt that this became the thing

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Speaker 2: that people attached themselves to who are part of the

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Speaker 2: hive mind for a while, but generally speaking, here's how

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Speaker 2: it goes. Celebrities, including Greta Thunberg, who is a celebrity.

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Speaker 2: I think she's eighteen years old now, the high Priestess

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Speaker 2: of climate change, no degree of any kind from anywhere,

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Speaker 2: but telling everybody about what to do with climate change.

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Speaker 2: I feel badly for any adults who listened to Greta

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Speaker 2: Thunberg and think that that's worth their time. But there

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Speaker 2: are millions and millions of them. She's gone over there though.

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Speaker 2: I can't even think of all the different celebrities who

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Speaker 2: name an annoying left wing actor and he or she

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Speaker 2: has probably gone over to take photos with Zelensky. Because

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Speaker 2: this has been a cause celeb this is something that

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Speaker 2: brings them all together. Well, we were told there was

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Speaker 2: going to be a counter offensive against Russia that was

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Speaker 2: going to start pushing Russia back on its heels. And

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Speaker 2: no surprise to those of us who know what the

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Speaker 2: propaganda is in this versus the reality, but Clay, the

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Speaker 2: counter offensive is stalling and in fact, meaning the Ukrainian

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Speaker 2: counteroffensive against the Russians is not going as planned. And

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Speaker 2: now we're we're faced with two things. One is a

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Speaker 2: decision that hasn't made the other's a decision that still

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Speaker 2: could be made. Cluster bombs. We know that cluster bombs

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Speaker 2: can leave behind these bomblets that are quite small, and

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Speaker 2: if they do not detonate initially, they just are left behind,

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Speaker 2: almost like land mines. They just are dropped on the ground,

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Speaker 2: and then if somebody comes by later, you know, a

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Speaker 2: random civilian, a kid, touches one, it blows up and

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Speaker 2: kills that person. That's the reason why cluster bombs are

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Speaker 2: are banned by so many different international treaties. Well, we've

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Speaker 2: decided we're going to give the Ukrainians cluster bombs clay,

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Speaker 2: So we're giving them cluster bombs, even though we know

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Speaker 2: cluster bombs are a huge humanitarian concern. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: glad we're not, you know, giving them chemical weapons, and

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Speaker 2: I'm glad we're drawing some lines here and the critical

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Speaker 2: fight for Ukraine. But that's got a lot of people

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Speaker 2: raising their ryebrows. So it went from we're just gonna

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Speaker 2: give them, Well, it started out with helmets and flack

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Speaker 2: vests under Obama to then under Trump it was dragging

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Speaker 2: off sniper rifles and anti tank missiles javelin anti tank

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Speaker 2: missiles to now it's we're sending them hundreds of billions

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Speaker 2: of dollars. I mean, who knows what the actual figure is.

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Speaker 2: There's the official budget and the unofficial budget. And on

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Speaker 2: top of all this, you've got Lindsey Graham, who is

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Speaker 2: out on the campaign trail with Trump. This is always

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Speaker 2: amazing to me, Lindsay Graham. People say, they say they

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Speaker 2: hate the establishment, and yet they keep voting Lindsey Graham

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Speaker 2: back in in South Carolina. You know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what this is. Trump voters are all still coming out

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Speaker 2: and voting for Lindsay Graham. But Lindsey Graham says that

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Speaker 2: which has been the initial redline for all of this.

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Speaker 2: Russia doesn't escalate that there create the escalation. We're worried

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, buck, there are So this is the

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Speaker 3: problem with deciding that you're on a side for purposes

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Speaker 3: of the media. Okay, when you say, hey, Ukraine and

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Speaker 3: The child then becomes, how do you get reliable media

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Speaker 2: Going on when overwhelmingly.

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Speaker 3: The media is essentially in a rooting contest, Buck, does

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Speaker 3: that was to take place this summer has not materialized.

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Speaker 3: Ukraine has gained virtually no territory. And so if you

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Speaker 3: which is Russia has fortified effectively, it appears a nearly

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Speaker 3: at this point impregnable defensive position that the Ukrainians are

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Speaker 3: having almost no success pushing through. They have filled so

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Speaker 3: many land mines and the United States and this is

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Speaker 3: a big aspect of this story that is only now

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the cluster bombs that are going to be used.

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Speaker 3: Buck, Why is it necessary, because effectively, we've run out

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Speaker 3: of war material to even provide to Ukraine. And I

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Speaker 3: of the generals said, after five or six days, every

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Speaker 3: war is just a logistics battle. So the first five

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Speaker 3: these We don't have weapons of traditional nature to be

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Speaker 3: providing Ukraine because most of our armory is now depleted.

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Speaker 3: And this is alarming to me, Buck, because what happens

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Speaker 3: if China goes in on Taiwan. This is a question

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Speaker 3: we've been talking about on this program since the invasion

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Speaker 3: initially happened in uk We don't have the war material

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Speaker 3: to be able to fight in multiple directions. We don't

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Speaker 3: have the resources. And yet, Buck, what does it feel

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Speaker 3: like so much of our military spends time on we

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Speaker 3: by twenty five percent I recruiting goals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, way way below recruiting goals. And what are we sharing?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you should be happy to be a trans soldier

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Speaker 3: from Admiral Levine and all this other craziness going on.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't surprise me at all. Buck, Would you agree

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Speaker 3: with this thesis the least woke people in America are

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Speaker 3: soldiers as a general role. If you're eighteen years old

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Speaker 2: You're speaking about combatants or people that are training for

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Speaker 2: And there are people that do cool and exciting stuff,

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Speaker 3: But in general, when you look at a twenty five

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Speaker 3: and I could be wrong, the brand of the military

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Speaker 3: And to me, that's because what it used to be

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Speaker 3: the case was the military sold Hey, you can be

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Speaker 2: I remember seeing that and as a kid thinking to myself, Marines,

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Speaker 2: badass heroes, want to do it? You know, like it

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Speaker 2: to tell people, give up, you know, first of all,

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Speaker 2: But give up the prospect of a private sector salary,

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Speaker 2: at least for a period of time. Sign yourself up

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Speaker 2: for an organization that's going to take away a lot

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Speaker 2: of your day to day autonomy certainly, and you know,

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Speaker 2: big problem. I mean, you know, we're you and I

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Speaker 2: are the nine to eleven generation, right. I think of

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Speaker 2: all the people who signed up military. You know, we

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Speaker 2: had millions go through rock and Afghanistan, a few million veterans.

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Speaker 2: People went and worked in the state departments, CIA, DA,

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Speaker 2: There's a reason for that. I think that's one hundred

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Speaker 3: And on your Ukraine point, I think one of the

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Speaker 3: challenges is we don't really have an honest media anymore.

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Speaker 3: By and large, what happens when the bad guy wins buck?

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Speaker 3: How does the media cover if you are going to

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Speaker 3: say Ukraine is everything that's good and Russia is everything

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Speaker 3: that the evil side might be winning? I don't know

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Speaker 3: that we do, and if we aren't informed. As an

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Speaker 3: on Ukraine? One hundred and fifty billion dollars of our

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Speaker 3: a trillion. I think, before all is said and done,

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Speaker 3: is how much we're gonna spend if basically we've created

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Speaker 3: trench warfare. The idea that we're going to have some

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Speaker 3: if that's not the case, remember how much time have

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Speaker 3: you heard out there is you're listening to us, how

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Clay and Buck. As promised,

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Speaker 4: Hey, how y'all doing.

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Speaker 4: have more projects underway. It's absolutely good for jobs as well,

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Speaker 4: and it will help reduce inflation because if you look

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Speaker 4: about where energy is factored into this, Biden basically squandered

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Speaker 4: a lot of the strategic petroleum reserve, which artificially kept

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Speaker 4: the price a little lower than it otherwise would have been.

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Speaker 4: Time may be running out on that and you may

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Speaker 4: see spikes and energy and if that's the case, inflation

438
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Speaker 4: we'll go back up again. So I think that that's

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Speaker 4: really really important. And then you also need to rip

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Speaker 4: out the bureaucratic excess. Yes, part of it is the

441
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Speaker 4: weaponization and the deep state, but it's also just a massive,

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Speaker 4: massive overreach of these bureaucrats where they want to tell

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Speaker 4: you what kind of car you can drive, they want

444
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Speaker 4: to tell you what kind of energy you can use.

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Speaker 4: With never having stood for election and not accountable to

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Speaker 4: the American people. It's a distortion of constitutional government. It's

447
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Speaker 4: also terrible for economic growth.

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Speaker 3: Last question for you. We know you're busy making your

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Speaker 3: case all over the country. Front not front page, I

450
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Speaker 3: don't think, but a big article in the Wall Street Journal.

451
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Speaker 3: The headline is Disney World hasn't felt this empty in years,

452
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Speaker 3: says July fourth, ten year low. They're having trouble getting

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Speaker 3: people to show up at disney World and disney Land.

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Speaker 3: The movies, and I know you got young kids. The

455
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Speaker 3: movies that they've been putting out, the Pixar movies are collapsing.

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Speaker 3: Even the recent Indiana Jones did not do well. Do

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Speaker 3: you think Disney is getting bud lighted by many people

458
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Speaker 3: out there if you were giving them advice on what

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Speaker 3: would make sense going forward from a business perspective, It

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Speaker 3: feels to me like Disney has gone woke and Bob

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Speaker 3: Iger is now paying the consequences.

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Speaker 2: You see it that.

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Speaker 4: Way, well, Taya. As parents of six, five and three

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Speaker 4: year old kids, my wife and I really believe that

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Speaker 4: parents should be able to send their kids to school,

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Speaker 4: let them watch cartoons without having an agenda shoved down

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Speaker 4: their throat. That's why we stood up to Disney with

468
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Speaker 4: respect to our Parents' Rights and Education Bill, and I

469
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Speaker 4: think that it is impacting parents' willingness to want to

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Speaker 4: take their kids to the Disney stuff. The sad part

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Speaker 4: about it, guys, is when we were having this fight

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Speaker 4: with Disney in twenty twenty two, most of the employees

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Speaker 4: in their Orlando area theme parks they agreed with us.

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Speaker 4: I want Osciola County for the first time a Republican's

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Speaker 4: done in a generation by seven percent, which is where

476
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Speaker 4: the majority of Disney employees live. So this is really

477
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 4: a cadre of woke executives in Burbank trying to impose

478
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Speaker 4: this agenda down on the rest of the company. I

479
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Speaker 4: think it's been catastrophic. My advice would just be, look,

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Speaker 4: what made Disney kind of the all American company under

481
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Speaker 4: Walt and Beyond was a focus on family, a focus

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Speaker 4: on you know, traditional pro American values. They would never

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Speaker 4: have wanted to sexualize children the way Disney has gone

484
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Speaker 4: down this, So they just have to look in the

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Speaker 4: mirror understand first of all, it's wrong. Second of all,

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00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: people aren't buying this, and it is ultimately to the

487
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Speaker 4: detriment of the company. It's in the best interest of

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Speaker 4: Disney shareholders that they get refocused on their previous core

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Speaker 4: mission and get the woke out of there. And it

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Speaker 4: goes beyond when you start talking about kids, because some

491
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 4: of the woke in society is kind of annoying, and

492
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you just kind of roll your eyes

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Speaker 4: when you start talking about our kids. That's when parents

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Speaker 4: really really rise up. And respond, and I think it's

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Speaker 4: sad that that's the case, but they have knowingly chosen

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Speaker 4: to go down this road. And I can tell you

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Speaker 4: in Florida, you know, we're one of the few places

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Speaker 4: where we've stood up to these woke companies in defense

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Speaker 4: of parents and children. I get criticized by a lot

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Speaker 4: of Republicans for having done that, but I'll tell you

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Speaker 4: I would do it again, and it was the right

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Speaker 4: thing to do.

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Speaker 2: Governoran A. Scantis, thanks for being with us, sir, and

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Speaker 3: absolutely fantastic addition to this show, and we're joined now.

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Speaker 3: It's a great movie that's out. It's having a tremendous

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Speaker 3: amount of success. Some of you may have already seen it.

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Speaker 3: If not, you may have well heard about it. If

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Speaker 3: you have not, you're gonna hear this discussion about it here.

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Speaker 3: Jim Cavizl who was the star in Passion of the Christ,

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Speaker 3: he is also a star in Sound of Freedom. And Jim,

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Speaker 3: we appreciate you taking the time to hang out with us.

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Speaker 3: I know you were on with Rush years ago when

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Speaker 3: The Passion of the Christ came out, and many of

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Speaker 3: our listeners may well remember hearing you twenty some odd

538
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: years ago with Rush as you discussed the success of

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00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: that movie. And now you're back with us again. You

540
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: got another movie that's dominating. Tell us what it's about,

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Speaker 3: why you think it's having success, and why you'd encourage

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Speaker 3: people listening to go check it out.

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Speaker 5: I play a man named Tim Ballard, a former Homeland

544
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 5: security man that goes down to the border of Collexico,

545
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Speaker 5: California and takes down one of the worst pedophiles traffickers

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00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: they've ever seen. He rescues this little boy, a little

547
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: boy says, where you find my sister, and he essentially

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Speaker 5: sells everything to go and look for this little girl.

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Speaker 2: Jim, it's Buck, Thanks so much for being with us

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Speaker 2: this movie. I mean, we see this where something that

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Speaker 2: has a theme, a traditional theme of just good versus

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00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: in this case, pure evil, does so well at the

553
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: box office and there are all these reviews and people

554
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: writing about it saying, oh, well, this is a surprise,

555
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: or that this kind of independent film. Why do you

556
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: think this is resonating so much with people?

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Speaker 5: Has a lot to do with in a nutshell, with

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00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 5: our republic that's collapsing right now, if we can hurt

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00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: little children and let them die and be slaughtered, and

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's plenty of facts here too. And the

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00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 5: you know these media that claimed fact checkers, who the

562
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 5: public is waking up, they're now asking who are your

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00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: fact checkers? Because I'd love for them to cross examine

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00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 5: with Tim Ballard and many of these agents. They don't

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00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 5: know what they're talking about. And they won't even go

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Speaker 5: to the border. And when you look at a country

567
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 5: that's losing doesn't have a south border. Are we a

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00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 5: country we're celebrating the fourth of July. We don't have

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Speaker 5: a south border. We are not a sovereign nation. What

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00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 5: is going on? That's what the American public is looking at.

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Speaker 5: And the facts are there. They have done plenty, plenty

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00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 5: stuff research, but you never see these people that read

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00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: from their papers they're probably getting from the Pentagon to

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Speaker 5: actually go down there and do their own research, like

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Speaker 5: people like Lara Logan that actually go into war zones.

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Speaker 3: Jim, what do you attribute the overall success of this movie?

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Speaker 3: Because I know you're probably like Buck and myself, an

578
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: old school movie buff And you remember when Indiana Jones

579
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Speaker 3: was out in the Temple of Doom and Raiders of

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Speaker 3: the Lost Ark and everything else. Your movie is going

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Speaker 3: head to head now and winning in many markets against

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Speaker 3: the fifth Indiana Jones movie, with all of the marketing power,

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Speaker 3: all of the dollars that Disney can pour into a

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Speaker 3: franchise of that magnitude. What does the success of your

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00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: movie say about the desperate demand for stories such as

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Speaker 3: these to be told.

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Speaker 5: You know, last year they did a movie on the

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Speaker 5: Top Gun, and Tom Cruise didn't go into all of

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Speaker 5: the that they wanted to make his film, uh in

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Speaker 5: the and taken away from the original Top Gun. People

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00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 5: went there and they watched, They had an experience. They

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00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 5: they loved the flight areols and stuff. They loved that

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Speaker 5: it was Americans, and they loved their country. And we

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Speaker 5: have a we have a republic, life, liberty and the

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Speaker 5: pursuit of happiness. And and so we have gone so

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00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 5: far left and had people shove their you know, LGBTQ

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00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: flag up into our face. We've millions of Christians they're saying,

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Speaker 5: this is sick, this is not what we want. So

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Speaker 5: I made a movie It's the truth about what's going on.

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Speaker 5: It's current. You know, if if they had made Schindler's

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Speaker 5: List during the time of when it was happening, think

602
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 5: about that, it would have been what what that had

603
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 5: had would have been, It'd saved millions of lives. And

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00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 5: so this is poking right out the dragon, the all

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00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 5: the three letter agencies, all of them, because you can't

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00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 5: tell me that eighty five thousand children can come across

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Speaker 5: the border and disappear like Ms. Rhodo Off's April twenty

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00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 5: sixth testimony told us that eighty five thousand children have vanished.

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00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 5: And then you have all these articles coming out and

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Speaker 5: ripping the film. Why what's wrong with being an anti

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00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 5: trafficking film and an anti pedal film? Brother, look at

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Speaker 5: the laws that they're trying to pass now. And so

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Speaker 5: Americans are fed up. They're sick and tired of you

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00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 5: taking our beer. It's not our beer anymore. We're not

615
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 5: drinking buddy light, We're not going to target anymore, and

616
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 5: we're not going to pedal land anymore. And all of

617
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Speaker 5: these other conglomerates that want to get involved in this,

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Speaker 5: Americans have drawn drawn the line, and the line is

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Speaker 5: our children. And you can't f with our children. I'm

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Speaker 5: trying to be polite here, but you cannot mess with

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Speaker 5: our children because God's children are not for sale and

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Speaker 5: Americans still appreciate one nation under God.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jim, I know you're playing in this film

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Speaker 2: The Sound of Freedom, which we recommend everybody see out there,

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Speaker 2: and it's doing very well, which is encouraging on a

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Speaker 2: number of levels that a film like this would have

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Speaker 2: the reception that it has had you play Tim Ballard

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Speaker 2: or your character Jim is based on Tim Ballard. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you've had lots of conversations with him about what

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Speaker 2: could we begin to do here to confront the scale

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Speaker 2: of this problem. I mean, as I said in the beginning,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything that could be considered

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Speaker 2: a more absolute evil than the trafficking of children. And

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Speaker 2: you're putting numbers out there, you're raising awareness about this

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Speaker 2: with the movie. What would be some of the steps.

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Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of people out there are thinking,

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Speaker 2: how do we start to I know it's a massive problem,

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00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: it's a global problem. Well what does it look like

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Speaker 2: to try to begin to fight back against this effectively

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Speaker 2: and save these kids?

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Speaker 5: Well, right now, there's a message that I give at

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Speaker 5: the end of the film. It's a powerful message. But

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Speaker 5: right now what's happening is is that when we first

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Speaker 5: went to sell this film, we had to go through

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Speaker 5: social media. Nobody would listen to us, and we were

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Speaker 5: a voice in the desert crying out. And eventually the

647
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 5: public started coming. And now they're starting to come. I mean,

648
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 5: this is just starting. What they're doing is Angel has this.

649
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 5: They're the ones that promote the film, and Angel has

650
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 5: this pay it Forward program, curiously enough, a film I did,

651
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 5: but it's a pay it forward program that helped people

652
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 5: they're economically stuck right now to see this film. And

653
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 5: they go to the movie, they get free tickets, and

654
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 5: so the word is spreading because people are able to

655
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 5: see them because a lot of people under this crazy administration,

656
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 5: they can't afford it. So they've made it affordable. Nobody's

657
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 5: ever done this before. Angel did this the Harmon Brothers,

658
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 5: and so the first thing is getting people to see

659
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 5: it so that individual can afford a ticket buyers it.

660
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 5: Maybe he goes in and he has ten tickets that

661
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 5: he you know, for his friends, and him may go

662
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 5: and watch it, and then they go tell ten twenty

663
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 5: thirty people. And that's what's happening now. We had gone

664
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 5: to Congress and ask them, hey, we got to get

665
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 5: this stuff going on with the border here, and they've

666
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: kind of have done. Had I thought they were going

667
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 5: to do something, they didn't. You know what, nothing is

668
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 5: going to happen unless the people unite and say enough

669
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 5: and this is by the people for the people. This

670
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 5: is not a government. The government doesn't run us, and

671
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 5: that's what they've been doing. And now we're all pulling

672
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 5: together right now. We're all dangerous to them. But we

673
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 5: know we're a public. We know we're not a democracy.

674
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 5: We know we are a republic because you can't vote

675
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 5: somebody's inalienable rights away under a republic. Life comes before liberty,

676
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 5: life comes before happiness because without you your life, you

677
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 5: have no liberty, you have no happiness. And so by

678
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 5: the people for the people is happening right now, and

679
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 5: we're going to constitutional full across the board and we're

680
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 5: going to become a sovereign nation again very soon. And

681
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 5: we're uniting around this because you can't because again my

682
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 5: character says over and over again, God's children are not

683
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: for sale. And when God tells you to do something

684
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 5: you don't hesitate. That's the American way.

685
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: Jim, you're obviously very passionate. That's fueled so much of

686
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: your success as an actor. We're talking to Jim Caviezel.

687
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: I know there's a talk, and I'm curious what the

688
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: update is on this. A lot of our listeners watch

689
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: The Passion of the Christ, the movie that you started,

690
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: the Mel Gibson produced. I know that there's talk of

691
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: the past of the Christ or resurrection, and so I

692
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: got a couple of things here. What can you tell

693
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: us about that movie? And when you make a movie

694
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: like Sound of Freedom, how much of the Hollywood audience

695
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: actually does respond to the movie like this, even if

696
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: they don't do so publicly. In other words, how much

697
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: of an underground is there in Hollywood where people who

698
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: work on the movies both actors, but you know, behind

699
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 3: the scenes people actually are big proponents of their faith

700
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: and supportive of what's going on.

701
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Speaker 5: Well, they're there, They're underground, and they're there in the

702
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 5: agencies as well. They're good, good, good Americans are fighting,

703
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 5: but the guys that are in charge are the ones

704
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 5: that are destroying our republic. We did the Passion of

705
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 5: the Christ twenty years ago came out in two thousand

706
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 5: and four. We filmed it in two thousand and two,

707
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 5: and I got to go through a huge experience on

708
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 5: that movie. When the moment I took that movie, I

709
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 5: was told by many not to do this film, and

710
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 5: I said, why, It's in the Gospels. It's in the Bible.

711
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 5: You know, we put our hand on the Bible one

712
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 5: week swear. You know, you go into court here and

713
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 5: you put your hand on the Bible. And this version

714
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 5: of it is the one we did right from that,

715
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 5: and I was incredibly attacked by the media. So that

716
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 5: was before fake news. Okay, when Trump came in and

717
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 5: started talking about fake news, nobody knew it was fake news.

718
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 5: Now we all know it's fake news. And they're struggling

719
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 5: with the narrative. And the narrative back then was to

720
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 5: take away our foundation of one nation under God. That's

721
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 5: what they chipped away. And when we came in with

722
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 5: that film, you know, this film did remarkably well. But

723
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 5: the Passion came in five days. This was six almost

724
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 5: seven days. That was five days at one hundred and

725
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 5: thirty nine million dollars. At seven dollars a ticket back then,

726
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 5: you know, and the public spoke out and said, this

727
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: is our film. After that happened, I couldn't get a job.

728
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 5: Why the film did over a billion dollars worth of business,

729
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 5: and they were like, no, no, not unless you work

730
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 5: on our terms. I was given a gift. It came

731
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 5: from God Almighty, and it's not my gift, it's his.

732
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 5: That's the difference between me and other artists. I didn't

733
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 5: give myself a gift, but I'll put my gift up

734
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 5: against anybody in the world because it's his. And so

735
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 5: I had a responsibility to do my job and and

736
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 5: fight for Americans in films. You know. I was inspired

737
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 5: by Jimmy Stewart when I was around Jimmy Stewart and

738
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 5: he told me, Jim make good movies. So I did.

739
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 5: I made the thin red line, and I was moving

740
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 5: up the rocket chain right here in this industry. But

741
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 5: they always the intention to inspire people to find moral

742
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 5: redemption in stories, and the industry has been hijacked from us,

743
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 5: the people, American people, And so they're crying out in

744
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 5: this film right now. They're watching because this is current.

745
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 5: As I said it, Schindler's List had been made during

746
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 5: the time of Auschwitz. It could have prevented a lot

747
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 5: of wickedness that would happened under the Nazis, and also

748
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 5: what happened under the Soviet Union. Their crimes to date

749
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: are just unprecedented. But we have a lot of these

750
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 5: things going around right now, and that children. There are

751
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 5: more slaves right now of children right now in this

752
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 5: world than all slavery when it was legal in history.

753
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: That's what you find out in this film.

754
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: The film is the sound of Freedom. I know a

755
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: lot of you have seen it, a lot more of

756
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: you will see it. Jim, thank you so much for

757
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: being with us here sharing your story, and we wish

758
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: you continued lock both in this film and on future films.

759
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 5: I would like to thank all Americans, all Americans out there.

760
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: And I've said this before when Ronald Reagan said it

761
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 5: many years from his a time for choosing that you

762
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 5: and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We'll preserve for

763
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 5: our children this the last best hope of men on earth,

764
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 5: will sentence them to take the last step in two

765
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 5: one thousand years of darkness. My brothers and sisters, and

766
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 5: the words of Reagan, remember evil is powerless if the

767
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 5: good or unafraid. God bless you, Thank.

768
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: You, jem Man.

769
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: Fantastic interview there will react to it. Also, we're going

770
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: to talk with Riley Gains. Third hour of the program underway,

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786
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787
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Speaker 3: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. We've got

788
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Speaker 3: a loaded show for you Florida Governor Rod DeSantis last hour,

789
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 3: as well as you just heard at the beginning of

790
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: this hour Jim cavizl. He was both of those guests fantastic.

791
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 3: I know that our next guest is also going to

792
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: be fantastic. She is Riley Gaines. I am excited to

793
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: announce that OutKick has hired her to be doing a

794
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: podcast all about defending women's sports, and Riley, we're excited

795
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: to have you, and I've got a quote for you.

796
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: The timing is unbelievable. On this Megan Rapino is announced

797
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: that she is retiring. The US Women's World Cup is

798
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: just about to start in Australia and New Zealand, and

799
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: in an interview in Time magazine, Riley, I don't even

800
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: know if you've seen these quotes yet.

801
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read them for you.

802
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: She was asked Megan Rapino was would you welcome a transathlete?

803
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: Rapino said, absolutely, You're taking a real woman's place. That's

804
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: the part of the argument that's still extremely transphobic. I

805
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: see trans women as real women. What you're saying automatically

806
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: in the argument, you're sort of telling on yourself already,

807
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: is you don't believe these people are women. Therefore they're

808
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: taking the other spot. I don't feel that way, And

809
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: she said later, oh, now we care about fairness, Now

810
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: we care about women's sports. That's total bull. You know

811
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: what comes after and show me all the trans people

812
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: who are nefariously taking advantage of being trans in sports.

813
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: It's just not happening. Repino said, what would you say

814
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 3: in response, Riley, Look, I mean this.

815
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 6: Is the most I mean, this is predictable. To be honest,

816
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 6: we could have imagined that she would have said absolutely,

817
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 6: of course she did when she just announced her career

818
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 6: was over. Had Megan Rapino been asked this question in

819
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 6: the height of her career, trying actually trying to advance

820
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 6: to the height of her career, she would not have

821
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 6: the same opinions. And it's easy to understand why. Is

822
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 6: because a man could easily take her place easily. And

823
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 6: in regards to how this is telling on yourselves, that goes,

824
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 6: I mean that goes more our way than anything. Because

825
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 6: at our national championships they had to change the rules

826
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 6: to the locker room to allow a man into our

827
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 6: locker room. They had to say, oh, well, we got

828
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 6: around this by making the locker rooms. UNI six that

829
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 6: right there is admitting that it's.

830
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 7: Not a woman. It's a full admittance.

831
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 6: These organizations who are buying into this, they know what's wrong,

832
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 6: they know it's unfair, and Megan Rappino is virtue signaling,

833
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 6: which is not a surprise to anyone.

834
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: You know, what do you think in Riley it's buck

835
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: What do you think the response should be to this,

836
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: because we know it's only a matter of time before

837
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: you do have a male to female transition who is

838
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 2: trying to play at a high level of women's soccer.

839
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: You came up against this in swimming, It's happened elsewhere.

840
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: Do you think that the female players should just refuse

841
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: to play? I mean, this is often something that comes up.

842
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: What's the proper response given that this is just going

843
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: to continue?

844
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 6: You know, for the longest time, I rejected the notion

845
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 6: of boycott. I thought women shouldn't have to compromise anything.

846
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 6: There's no sacrifice that we should make. But now let

847
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 6: me tell you, as I see more and more girls

848
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 6: get injured, I see more and more girls lose out

849
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 6: on opportunities, more and more girls exploited in a locker

850
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 6: room boycotting is the answer. That's how this is going,

851
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 6: that's how we're effectively going to make change. I thought

852
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 6: legislation would be the way forward, but really the turning

853
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 6: point for me and embracing a boycott is when this

854
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 6: got introduced on the House at the federal level. By

855
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 6: it wrote Representative Greg Duby, the Protection of Women and

856
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 6: Girls in Sports Act, and all Democrats, every single one

857
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 6: of them, all two hundred and three, voted in opposition

858
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 6: of protecting Women and Girls in Sports. And that's when

859
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 6: I realized, if we wait for legislation to make changes,

860
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Speaker 6: it's too far gone.

861
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Speaker 7: Too many women will have lost out. Too many women

862
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 7: again will be have their.

863
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 6: Rights to privacy entirely violated and be potentially injured in

864
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 6: their sports. So I most certainly am advocating and calling

865
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Speaker 6: for a boycott, not just from women.

866
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Speaker 7: I think men could boycott too. Men need to make

867
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Speaker 7: a statement.

868
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Speaker 6: I think that's a powerful way to show that this

869
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 6: is something that affects everyone and that everyone has had enough.

870
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Speaker 2: You shared a story over the weekend.

871
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Speaker 3: I think it was that I couldn't believe it was real,

872
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: and I want you to fill in for people out

873
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: there who may not have heard about it. There was

874
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: a sixteen year old girl who objected to a biological

875
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: man pretending to be a woman using a YMCA. I

876
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: believe I've got this correct locker room. What happened to her?

877
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Speaker 3: What is this story for people who.

878
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: Have not heard it?

879
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 7: So I've talked to this family.

880
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 6: The story is every single day after their practice at

881
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 6: the same time, a man would be undressing in their

882
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 6: locker room. And these girls, of course, they felt uncomfortable

883
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 6: by this, and so they went to their coach immediately

884
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 6: and said, hey, you know, there's a man in our

885
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 6: locker room every single day. Can you can you do

886
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 6: something about it? And he assured them, you know, of

887
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 6: course I'll do something. But it continued to happen every

888
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 6: single day, and so these girls they met together, they

889
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 6: took it upon themselves to do something, and so they

890
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 6: got together they wrote little posters and on these posters,

891
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 6: which were eventually deemed as hate speech, they wrote, protect

892
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 6: women's sports, They wrote, you know, women's space only certain

893
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 6: things like that, nothing even about trans individuals.

894
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 7: Just it was a pro woman message.

895
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Speaker 6: And they put these posters up in the locker room,

896
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Speaker 6: and that next day of practice, their coach pulls them

897
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 6: together and says who did this? And the one girl

898
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 6: steps forward and she said, well, I was a partner.

899
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 6: And he said, you're off the team immediately, and you're

900
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 6: kicked off out of the YMCA. And so she was

901
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 6: banned from the YMCA for opposing a male who is

902
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 6: undressing to be in their locker room.

903
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Speaker 3: I want to emphasize this again because am I correct Riley.

904
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Speaker 3: This is a sixteen year old girl, a miner, and

905
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: her teammates are also miners, and she, this girl bore

906
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 3: the consequences for saying, hey, there shouldn't be a man

907
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 3: change in our locker room. Who's arguing that he's a woman.

908
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: She was the one who had to bear the consequences.

909
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 7: You're right, that's exactly right.

910
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 6: And it's crazy, and I think to make matters even worse,

911
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 6: not only did these parents have to deal with this

912
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 6: with this daughter, their older daughter. Her name is Caitlin Wheeler.

913
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 6: She was on my team at University of Kentucky and

914
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 6: we were training partners and she's one of my best friends,

915
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 6: and she dealt with this when competing and changing in

916
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 6: a locker room with Leah Thomas. And so now these

917
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 6: poor parents have dealt with this from two of their daughters.

918
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 6: Yet it people continually push the argument, it's not really happening.

919
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 6: You know, it's not really a big deal. It's not happening.

920
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 6: It is happening. It happened to this family twice. One

921
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 6: of the young track and field girls out in California

922
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 6: who competed against the boy. Her older sister competed against

923
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 6: Leah Thomas as well. These are two families who have

924
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 6: been impacted in two entirely different situations, but in the

925
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 6: same way.

926
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: Riley, you may have seen this not quite sports, but

927
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: it is a competition that the Miss Netherlands competition was,

928
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: which is a feeder to the Miss Universe competition, was one.

929
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 2: This is a female beauty pageant. It was one by

930
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 2: a transgender man or transgender woman. Is this the next

931
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: thing we should expect where uh trans like women's pageants

932
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: and other things also are now going to be one

933
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: by men.

934
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 6: Look, there's a realm of things we can expect this,

935
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 6: and not just beauty pageants, but prisons and women's shelters

936
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 6: and sororities.

937
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 7: And notice this is only going one way.

938
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 6: It is always narcissistic entitled men entering in the women's division.

939
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 6: We don't see women going in men's bathrooms, we don't

940
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 6: see women going into men's prisons. And it's because these

941
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 6: men are on power trips. And look, I have no

942
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 6: animosity towards let's say Leah Thomas, for example. Look, Lea

943
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 6: Thomas was following the rules. It's the rules that need

944
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 6: to change that allowed this, because what message are these

945
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 6: rules sending? And I can tell you from my experience

946
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 6: the message I got, and it's that I don't matter

947
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 6: that we as women, as girls, as female athletes. We

948
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 6: didn't matter our privacy, our safety, our fairness, our self,

949
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 6: perception of ourselves, our mental health, our dignity. I mean,

950
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 6: the list goes on. None of that matters. What matters

951
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 6: to these to corporate America, to academia, to the media,

952
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 6: to actually the Biden administration who is leading this country.

953
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 6: What matters to them is catering to the radical minority,

954
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 6: with us as women being collateral damage.

955
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: I think the answer is Riley that as part of

956
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 3: your OutKick podcast, you'd be very happy to talk to

957
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: somebody like Megan Rapinos. So when Megan Rapino says it's

958
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: total bs, show me all the trans people who are

959
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: nefariously taking advantage of being trands in sports. It's just

960
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: not happening for people out there who may not have

961
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: heard your story.

962
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: Riley, you can.

963
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: Tell us about what the podcast is going to do,

964
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 3: but legitimately the reason that you are talking to us

965
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: is because a man ended up winning a women's in

966
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: c doublea championship and you competed against that man identifying

967
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: as a woman, and so you were planning on being

968
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: I believe a vet like you would be in veterinary

969
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: school right now, but for the fact that this competitive

970
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 3: situation directly happened in in Cuba women's championship sports.

971
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 6: You're exactly right. This is never something I wanted for myself.

972
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 6: This is never something I felt equipped for. I mean, heck,

973
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 6: I still don't feel equipped for what I'm doing, but

974
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 6: I know what's at stake if I don't do it.

975
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 6: And to answer your question, I would love to have

976
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 6: a Megan Repino on your podcast. Actually consider this an

977
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 6: official invite, Megan Repino. I would love it if you

978
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 6: joined the new Games for Girls podcasts where we can

979
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 6: have an open dialogue about the issue of men competing

980
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 6: in in sports and Nancy armor. Consider this your open

981
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 6: invitation as well. This is the woman who deemed Sam

982
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 6: Ponder as a bigot for believing in biology, and she

983
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 6: claims that I am some right wing grifter who's just

984
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 6: trying to climb the ladder off of tying against Leah Thomas. No, Nancy,

985
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 6: I would love to have a conversation with you. This

986
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 6: is definitely a space where I hope to spread awareness

987
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 6: and ultimately, more than anything, spread the truth.

988
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on OutKick. I hear the guy who found

989
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: that he's pretty cool. He's okay, yeah, And you're launching

990
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 2: a podcast. When does that start?

991
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 7: I actually just filmed my first episode.

992
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 6: I think the plan is for it to come out

993
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 6: on Wednesday, so we'll see Riley Gaines.

994
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: Everybody go find her.

995
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: I'mould kill it, buck, and I bet you're going to

996
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 3: find out that all the people who disagree with her,

997
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 3: when offered an open form to come and explain their

998
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 3: audience and their opinion, they'll run and hide.

999
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: They won't do it. I've never seen somebody thank you, Riley,

1000
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: thanks so much for being with us. I've never seen

1001
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: somebody try to make a serious and earnest all you

1002
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: get from people on the left with you know, with

1003
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: audiences that have podcasts and that are doing like the

1004
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: streaming video game stuff and that are really cool and hip.

1005
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: Whenever this comes up, they'll say, it's not really an issue.

1006
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: Why are you so focused on it. Yeah, that's the

1007
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Speaker 2: best they can do. That's all they've got. Anyway, my

1008
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: friend's unborn children need your voice as well as everyone

1009
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Speaker 2: else is in this audience who believes in the value

1010
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Speaker 2: of life. Every day, unborn babies lives are under attack.

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