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<v Speaker 1>Cut open that DJ Moore nisode Touchdown, Touchdown Bears. I

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<v Speaker 1>am Jeff Joniya litz Us.

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<v Speaker 2>On Donnie go Hurt. What was like playing for Coachy Boddom.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Bears, et Cetera brought to you by Geico, with the

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<v Speaker 1>voices of the Bears, Jeff Jonyac and Tom Thayer as

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<v Speaker 1>we inched closer to Week sixteen and a rematcher the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Liones. We break it down here on Bears et Cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode one of the Bears, Etcetera podcast. We're brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by gott Go with Tom Thayer, the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>winning Bears guard. I'm Jeff Joniac. Coming up on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Lomas Brown, the outstanding left tackle in Lyon's history, one

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<v Speaker 1>of them will join us. He is the radio analyst

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<v Speaker 1>and a good friend of ours. Also a Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame semi finalist this year, and we'll discuss how the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions look with all their injuries. Tom As you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the tape and we'll get into the Bears in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. But when you look at the tape. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that sticks out to me. Yeah, they got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of new defensive players and their defense has regressed some,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still a dangerous team. When you got an

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<v Speaker 1>offense that could put up so many points at any

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<v Speaker 1>given time.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>They have new pieces in place, but it's still the

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<v Speaker 3>same game. And it's a defense that's led by Aaron

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<v Speaker 3>Glenn and how he evaluates coverage against his opponents, and

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<v Speaker 3>how he wants to see the rush up front. What

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<v Speaker 3>type of atmosphere is he playing in. Who does that

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<v Speaker 3>give the advantage to There's a lot that goes into it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like the Bears first game against the Detroit Lions.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the tale of two halves.

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<v Speaker 3>One that was a slow starter and one that was

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<v Speaker 3>super aggressive. So the Bears somehow have to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>a way to take that aggressiveness that they learned of

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<v Speaker 3>in the second half and use it in the entirety

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<v Speaker 3>of this game that's going to be played at Soldier Field.

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<v Speaker 3>And to me, I'm not going to have a woe's

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<v Speaker 3>me approach to this game. I'm going to take the

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<v Speaker 3>approach to the game that we should beat the Detroit Lions.

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<v Speaker 3>This is our home. This is our atmosphere. The conditions

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<v Speaker 3>are in our favor. So now let's go out there

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<v Speaker 3>and have a positive, positive attitude that starts in the

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<v Speaker 3>locker room and bring it to the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the thing in your favor is this is only

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<v Speaker 1>their second outdoor game. Now, I may not bother them.

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<v Speaker 1>They did do a nice job up in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>But as a as a former player who when he

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<v Speaker 1>went to indoor games, there weren't weren't many I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>in your career, But did it make a difference for

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<v Speaker 1>a visiting team to play indoors versus outdoors?

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<v Speaker 3>It did, especially if you had a super supportive crowd,

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<v Speaker 3>because when that time, at that era that when we

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<v Speaker 3>played in Minnesota, the crowd was still on behalf of

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<v Speaker 3>the Minnesota Vikings. You know, it wasn't like StubHub and

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<v Speaker 3>everything was in existence back then where you could sell

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<v Speaker 3>your tickets to the opponents of the fans. When we

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<v Speaker 3>went to play in Detroit when the Bears had the

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<v Speaker 3>upper hand, it was more of a Bear supportive crowd

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<v Speaker 3>than it was a crowd on the behalf of the

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<v Speaker 3>Detroit Lions. So, you know, it's a different atmosphere depending

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<v Speaker 3>upon where you played in the majority of the stadiums,

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<v Speaker 3>as you mentioned, when I played were outdoors and you

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<v Speaker 3>could come across that crowd noise always in Green Bay

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff that was always difficult to play in. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I want the Bears players to come out

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<v Speaker 3>of the locker room and earn the respect of the

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<v Speaker 3>Bears fans, so they show their appreciation by the cheering

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<v Speaker 3>and the noise. That could really benefit the Bears, especially

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<v Speaker 3>on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Play loose, play with reckless, evandon, play with fire, play.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard, play aggressive, play with your head up, and play

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<v Speaker 3>with meaning. And just like all the adjectives that we

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<v Speaker 3>just used to describe what we want to see out

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<v Speaker 3>of the Bears, that's exactly how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Noon Sunday, and I mean, I'm going to go out

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<v Speaker 3>on a limbit. I'm gonna say I think the Bears

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<v Speaker 3>can win this game. I think they will win the game.

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<v Speaker 3>You know because I talk about a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>different pieces in place for the Detroit Lions, even though

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to play the same style of game. But

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<v Speaker 3>now you have to see if these guys are they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have a lot more reps put upon them.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they first ball, are in they in condition? Do

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<v Speaker 3>they have the desire and the fight in them to

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<v Speaker 3>play sixty snaps instead of twenty five snaps? Do they

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<v Speaker 3>have the production out of the positions that is so

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<v Speaker 3>important to their offense? For example, they run a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of play action passing. Are you going to get the

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<v Speaker 3>same deception out of whomever's playing behind Jamar Gibbs that

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<v Speaker 3>you would out of Gibbs and Montgomery? When you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the defensive line, they've already lost Hutchinson, Now they

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<v Speaker 3>lost McNeil, who is one of their best defensive players.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is that player that's going to be put in

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<v Speaker 3>that place? Is he up to the physical demands of

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<v Speaker 3>the game, especially in an outdoor, cold atmosphere. And again,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Bears, if they can come forth and

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<v Speaker 3>put together the effort out of the defensive line that

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<v Speaker 3>supports the back end of the defense. Get after be

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<v Speaker 3>better athletes at the defensive line than Jared goff Is

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<v Speaker 3>dropping back as a quarterback on the natural surface.

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<v Speaker 1>Our Geico gives you more football stat of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty two is the number. That's the stat. Twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>players on injured reserve for the Detroit Lions. Few are

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<v Speaker 1>even close in that ballpark. As a comparison, the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>have nine, so it's a massive amount. Let me throw

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<v Speaker 1>some names on defense. Alex Angeloni, Jalen Reeves, maybe an

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<v Speaker 1>outstanding special teams player, Derek Barnes linebacker, John Kaminski in

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<v Speaker 1>the rotation up front, Marcus Davenport edge rusher, Aiden Hutchinson

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Ennis Rakestrawn Junior the rookie corner. If he

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<v Speaker 1>got to Melafonu, he's getting his way back to win

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<v Speaker 1>to return its safety Bud, he's not back yet. Carlton

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<v Speaker 1>Davis the starting corner. They're starting return man, Nickel corner,

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<v Speaker 1>Khalil Dorsey. He gets some action. Alee McNeil, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>mkay Wingo also up front. Wow, I have not seen

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<v Speaker 1>a defense this decimated in a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Jeff, if you take that group of guys

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<v Speaker 3>and you put them on the field as a starting defense,

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<v Speaker 3>you have one of the better defenses in.

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<v Speaker 4>All the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So now you take them off of the Detroit Lions,

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<v Speaker 3>and now they have to start investing abilities in their backups.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I want to see the Bears come out

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<v Speaker 3>there with a confident Thomas Brown call in the plays

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<v Speaker 3>for Caleb Williams, Caleb taking the offensive assets he has

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<v Speaker 3>at his disposal, and use them repeatedly, efficiently and effectively

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<v Speaker 3>and get into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the first thing is they still play hard and

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<v Speaker 1>they are thinking championship. They are not thinking about anything

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<v Speaker 1>other than trying to get to the Super Bowl, as

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<v Speaker 1>they got close a year ago. Right now, they are

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<v Speaker 1>the number one scoring defense in the second quarter, allowing

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<v Speaker 1>just sixty points. So they're still doing well. They're ten

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<v Speaker 1>play drives, They've given up the fewest points in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL fifty six, fewest touchdowns five. There's plenty good on

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<v Speaker 1>third down they're fourth in the NFL and third down

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<v Speaker 1>yards allowed. So you know, you gotta win situational football.

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<v Speaker 1>All things that are necessary to try and complete this

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<v Speaker 1>thing get a win.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, a lot of those analytics, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of those stats, a lot of those numbers are associated

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<v Speaker 3>to the first half, first three quarters of the season

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<v Speaker 3>when the only in climate game that they played in

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<v Speaker 3>was up in Lambeau.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know they came out and they won the game.

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<v Speaker 4>And the point, the preach point after.

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<v Speaker 3>The game was Dan Campbell anytime, anywhere, any conditions. And

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<v Speaker 3>so now when you look at the amount of guys

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<v Speaker 3>that you have on injured reserve and where Caleb can

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<v Speaker 3>go with this offense and the weapons he has, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's time for the Bears to break out and

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<v Speaker 3>have one of those games that we've been expecting out

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<v Speaker 3>of them all season long.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's discuss further in voting the loss of

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<v Speaker 1>David Montgomery from Alliance perspective. Here's our good friend. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to left tackle, the veteran and radio analyst for

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<v Speaker 1>the Detroit Lions radio network. Let's listening to Lomas Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a legendary figure in the NFL with the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Lions at left tackle, the one and only Lomas

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<v Speaker 1>Brown and Tom Tayer, and I enjoy the conversations. He's beaming.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom that's what happens when you win twelve games.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, it really is.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's been unbelievable, unbelievable for us, the city,

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<v Speaker 5>just everything, and this winning streat unfortunately ended with Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 5>But to be sitting here at twelve and two with

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<v Speaker 5>three games left in the season, with a chance at

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<v Speaker 5>the number one seed, you couldn't ask for anything more

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<v Speaker 5>other than us being healthy. But you know, you just

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<v Speaker 5>roll with the punches.

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<v Speaker 3>Well almost. I got a question kind of on that accord.

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<v Speaker 3>Does Detroit know how to win? And I don't mean

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<v Speaker 3>just winning regular season games because now it's coming down

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<v Speaker 3>to crunch time and then the ultimate is the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the Detroit Lions know how to win?

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<v Speaker 5>That's a great question, Tom, great question I would say. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, yeah, you talked to me last year.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the experience we got last year, I really

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<v Speaker 5>think it's gonna help this year and help push us

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<v Speaker 5>through this year getting to the NFC Championship game. I

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<v Speaker 5>think the way we lost that game to bed Up

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<v Speaker 5>is by seventeen points in the first half and then

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<v Speaker 5>losing a game like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we learned a lot from that game.

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<v Speaker 5>The number one thing we learned was that we got

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<v Speaker 5>to have home field advantage. Everything needs to run through Detroit,

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<v Speaker 5>so that meant getting the number one seed. So yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I think if we get this number one seed and

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<v Speaker 5>the games are here in Detroit all regardless on the road,

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<v Speaker 5>I think this team has learned how to win those

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<v Speaker 5>tight games and the in this opponents.

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<v Speaker 2>That was our biggest thing, finishing opponents last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of a weird similarity in nineteen eighty four of

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<v Speaker 3>the Bears get beat in the NFC Championship game out

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<v Speaker 3>in San Francisco. They have a big talk on the

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<v Speaker 3>flight home. They realize the importance of winning to get

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<v Speaker 3>the home field advantage, and then eighty five took care

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<v Speaker 3>of itself. So, you know, back in our memory banks

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<v Speaker 3>because they go back so long in the NFL, I

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<v Speaker 3>think about Detroit as it pertains to learning how to win,

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<v Speaker 3>and it seems like, you know, you got guys like

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<v Speaker 3>Jared Goff and Campbell. They're no bigger personality than Campbell.

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<v Speaker 3>They have some great leadership on this team.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you know with the I think what gets

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<v Speaker 5>lost in the midst to Tom is the assistant coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about it. We got all the X

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<v Speaker 2>Pro players that we have as an assistant coaches.

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<v Speaker 5>When we talk about Randall, Al talk about Hank Freiley,

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<v Speaker 5>Calvin Shephard, Scottie Montgomery, you know Dan Campbell himself.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know I'm forgetting a couple. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's just unbelievable when you got those type

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<v Speaker 5>of guys that you could come off the field if

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<v Speaker 5>you're having a tough time and be able to talk

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<v Speaker 5>to those guys who've been there, done That.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that intentional by Dan when he put the staff together.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think so, I really think so. I

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<v Speaker 5>really really think so. And now I'm starting to see

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<v Speaker 5>and that. You know, that's the first thing I do

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<v Speaker 5>when I get an opponent's sheet, I look to see

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<v Speaker 5>who's on the coaching staff. How many you know, X

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<v Speaker 5>players do they have on their coaching staff because I

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<v Speaker 5>know the value in that, I know what these guys

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<v Speaker 5>could bring to the table. And yes, I do think

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<v Speaker 5>Dan Campbell did that surround himself with good assistant coaches

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<v Speaker 5>that used to play in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, uh, that's a great exercise to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I occasionally do it. I don't do it every time,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think players who are affect the past, and

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who knows how to coach, because you can

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<v Speaker 1>be an ex player and not know how to coach

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<v Speaker 1>and just tell him what you think. But to teach

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<v Speaker 1>him is the key, right, Yes, who is your offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line coach? Most of year?

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<v Speaker 5>Bill Muir brought me into the league. He drafted me

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<v Speaker 5>in nineteen eighty five. And you know, my last coach

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<v Speaker 5>was Bill Muir. So he was on the front end

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<v Speaker 5>of my career and he made sure he got me

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<v Speaker 5>on the tail and in Tampa Bay when I was

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<v Speaker 5>able to win the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was a guy for me that And of

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<v Speaker 2>course I had.

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<v Speaker 5>Some great guys in between, George Warhop, Carl malt I

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<v Speaker 5>had some great guys in between there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Karl Market. Now that was that was that was an

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<v Speaker 1>angry man work.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a piece of work. That man used to tell us. Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so funny when a guy in the room

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<v Speaker 2>and say you a.

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<v Speaker 5>Guy, borderline guy that maybe couldn't cut he was, and

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<v Speaker 5>that he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, son, you know, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Were one step from becoming a petroleum engineer. You know

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<v Speaker 5>what that is? That's a gas station at Oh my goodness, man, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he's the John tierlink of offensive line coaches, where

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to tell you like it is and he's

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<v Speaker 3>either going to inspire you or open the door for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well wait first, first, in an offensive line time, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that. You know Tom's offensive line coach was do you.

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<v Speaker 3>So last week in the in the locker room when

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<v Speaker 3>Dan Campbell was bent over talking to Skipper about throwing up.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look right above his head, it's the name

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<v Speaker 3>of Dick Stanfeld, one of the greatest offensive linemen in

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<v Speaker 3>the history of the Detroit Lions. Was my offensive line

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<v Speaker 3>coach from start to finish. Oh wow, and one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most incredible coaches that could coach every single position,

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<v Speaker 3>every single step against everying defense from the time you

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<v Speaker 3>got in your stance to the time you made your

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<v Speaker 3>collision or what your required assignment on the on the play.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's awesome. Now, yeah, I know the name.

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<v Speaker 5>I respect the name because you, like you say, he's

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<v Speaker 5>one of the all time greats.

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<v Speaker 3>So lomus looking at the injury report yesterday, you guys

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<v Speaker 3>had nine guys DNP did not practice, but some of

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<v Speaker 3>them are resting.

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<v Speaker 4>Four of them were offensive linemen.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this team mature enough to get through the course

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<v Speaker 3>of a week without having to go through their paces

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<v Speaker 3>and practice to come out with the confidence on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Or is just a team that Dan Campbell is instilled

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<v Speaker 3>a certain sense of maturity in them that they can

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<v Speaker 3>do that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they have the maturity in them if you

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<v Speaker 5>think about it. Time we went through a tough stretch

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<v Speaker 5>when we had four games and eighteen days.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know again, and that was tough.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of those games in between there was no

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<v Speaker 5>practice in between those games because you just couldn't you

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't have any contact, you know, so you're trying your

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<v Speaker 5>body still trying to recover. And those were successful games,

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<v Speaker 5>like I say, other than the Buffalo game. We lost

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<v Speaker 5>on the tail end of it, and I do think

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<v Speaker 5>the guys were kind of tied.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do.

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<v Speaker 5>They came out in that Buffalo game, the last game lethargic,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like we were playing and saying and you

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<v Speaker 5>never used that as an excuse. But like I say,

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<v Speaker 5>four games in eighteen days, that's a lot to put

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<v Speaker 5>your body through.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that has something to do with it.

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<v Speaker 5>But I do think it has the team ready and

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<v Speaker 5>they know how to practice without having contact. They know

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<v Speaker 5>how to practice without having the practice, if.

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<v Speaker 2>I can dare say that. So yeah, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Of things that they've learned going through that stretch of

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<v Speaker 5>games that they can use to help throughout the rest

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<v Speaker 5>of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Lomas, David Montgomery, how big? How big is this beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious? And what has he meant inside that locker room?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that grit that you guys have owned

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<v Speaker 1>as the kind of the rally cry in Detroit this

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<v Speaker 1>year because of how you guys played it, does he

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<v Speaker 1>exemplify that in every way?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I love David, love me some David Montgomery.

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<v Speaker 5>In like I said before the season started, he was

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<v Speaker 5>my offer, my MVP for this team, and he was

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<v Speaker 5>the straw that made that drink mix, that mixed that drink.

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<v Speaker 2>He was.

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<v Speaker 5>He was our call man. And it's gonna be tough

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<v Speaker 5>now knowing that he's out. Now. The great thing about him,

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<v Speaker 5>like I said a little earlier, was that this man

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<v Speaker 5>here has gotten one two opinions on his knee and

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<v Speaker 5>still going out to get a third opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't let them put him down on our r man.

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<v Speaker 5>That's saying so much about his character and where he's

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<v Speaker 5>at and what the love he has for this team

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<v Speaker 5>and how he wants to be out there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still trying to find a way to play.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I said I love that guy, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>why satan On, I'm telling you it's gonna be hard

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<v Speaker 5>to replace him. We got Sonic back there, Jamiir Gibbs.

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<v Speaker 5>We got Sonic back there, but without Knuckles. I just

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<v Speaker 5>don't know how that's gonna look.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're in the unknown world, and our first test

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<v Speaker 5>really be this Sunday against Chicago. I mean, Chicago's pretty

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<v Speaker 5>good up front defensively, so we're gonna see how our

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<v Speaker 5>offensive line would have struggled over the last week or

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<v Speaker 5>two couple of weeks we struggled up front. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>see how we match up against that d line in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 3>Long So the backups for McNeil and Montgomery, are they

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<v Speaker 3>capable of absorbing another twenty reps?

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<v Speaker 5>So I like Craig Reynolds. I like Reynolds behind him.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's pretty good. I think he could provide

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of what David Montgomery gave us between

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<v Speaker 5>the tackles, I think, but again, it's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>David Montgomery. They're talking about they probably gonna have to

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<v Speaker 5>bring somebody in, you know. So and then you got

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<v Speaker 5>to see only Vodke, who's a rookie. So you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying that he hadn't played a lot or

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<v Speaker 5>touch the ball a lot. So now do you want

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<v Speaker 5>to when the games get tough with tom as you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and this time of the year, you got to be

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<v Speaker 5>executing at a certain level, do you really trust the

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<v Speaker 5>rookie back there, you know, carrying the ball seven eight,

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<v Speaker 5>nine times a game. So it's a fine balance that

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to have to find with this running game.

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<v Speaker 2>And teams know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that teams know that, you know, how does that

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<v Speaker 5>change our approach?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the Bears and Lions they've had some tussles, so

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears they play the Lions tough, they do. The

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<v Speaker 1>outcomes may have not always been what we expected here

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago or the finish, but how do you what's

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<v Speaker 1>your level of respect given that this team is dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with a pretty hefty losing streak and an unknown future.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you respect how they're playing and how they're

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<v Speaker 1>coming out there?

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<v Speaker 2>So this would be my question.

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<v Speaker 5>I throw back at you two guys, because before he

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<v Speaker 5>got the job, Thomas Brown, I heard some of his

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<v Speaker 5>press conferences and I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, this dude here, and then he got the job.

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<v Speaker 5>My question to you guys is how has the team

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<v Speaker 5>responded to him?

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<v Speaker 2>Because he even said hisself he could.

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<v Speaker 5>Be a little rough around the edges because he going

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<v Speaker 5>to tell the guys, you know, what they need to hear,

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<v Speaker 5>and it may not always come out roses what he says.

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<v Speaker 2>So how has the team responded to him?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, have they have you all you guys seen

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<v Speaker 5>a remark uptick in the team?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would say against San Francisco, I was a

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<v Speaker 3>little disappointed in what happened out there, but there was

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<v Speaker 3>that was the great unknown with Thomas Brown being in

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<v Speaker 3>control of the first week. But I think they responded

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<v Speaker 3>better the other night in Minnesota. The defensive line played better,

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<v Speaker 3>they played him, had a more physical approach on defense.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, you got a guy like Caleb Williams,

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<v Speaker 3>Lomas the guy is gonna be something special from the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning and throughout his career. So he always gives you

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<v Speaker 3>that opportunity to stay involved in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I would say, uh, yeah, all you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do is look at how they performed. Uh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>they they're not starting quickly. Obviously they haven't done it

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<v Speaker 1>but once all season long, if they scored in the

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<v Speaker 1>first quarter or just gone up, I should say, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me rephrase that. The only time they've had to

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<v Speaker 1>lead in the first quarter was Minnesota the first game

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<v Speaker 1>seven nothing. So it's been a challenge, but there's no quit.

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<v Speaker 1>They keep grinding so that you got to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the case before too, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do like he's very open about Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a direct guy, and it's that whole thing of players.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell them what they need to hear, not what

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<v Speaker 1>they want to hear, right, I think that's the delineation.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do like his and he's he's very open

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<v Speaker 1>about how he looks at things and how you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of his own decisions. And everybody's looking to be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty accountable here. So I do like his attitude. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance now sit down with him one on

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<v Speaker 1>one several times, and he's delightful. I love his raw

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<v Speaker 1>approach to the game for sure. All right, before we

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<v Speaker 1>let you go, got to ask you this question. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>two questions, Actually, this will only be the second outdoor

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<v Speaker 1>game of the year for the Lions. Does that worry

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<v Speaker 1>you at all come playoff time in the NFC, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking if you don't get that home field advantage

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<v Speaker 1>or is it not a factor?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a fact.

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<v Speaker 5>That they proved to me when we went to Green

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<v Speaker 5>Bay in that game where it was I ain't in it,

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<v Speaker 5>it's kind of cold there.

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<v Speaker 2>They proved to me that the elements doesn't bother them.

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<v Speaker 5>That they really take into what Dan Campbell said, We'll

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<v Speaker 5>play you in the parking lot, We'll play you on dirt,

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<v Speaker 5>it just doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll play you anywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>And they've taken that, taken it the hard, and especially

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<v Speaker 5>Jared Golf because a lot of the questions have been

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<v Speaker 5>about him, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Would he handle it? And Jared has handled it like

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<v Speaker 2>a champ.

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<v Speaker 5>So the rest of the team I don't have I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think they'll have a problem with following suit. So no,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't see any reason to have concerned about the

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<v Speaker 5>outdoor weather.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, time, there's three pictures behind Lomas in his office

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<v Speaker 1>of him blocking that middle one. It looks to be

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<v Speaker 1>a bear.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's that's the great Wilbert Marshall, my ex teammate

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<v Speaker 5>at the University of Florida. I'm my good friends and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you're right about that, And yeah, I just happen to.

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<v Speaker 2>Have those up there.

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<v Speaker 5>Man. Man, I hadn't talked to Wilbur in so long. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you guys have talked to him,

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<v Speaker 5>But man, just a great, dear friend of mine, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just just loved the guy to death. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>will Kitty, we used to call him back in college.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the most one of the most naturally physically

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<v Speaker 3>gifted guys I've ever seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Tom, without a doubt, Man, I have to I

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<v Speaker 5>used to have to block that guy, of course in

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<v Speaker 5>practice at Florida, and then when I got to the league,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're right, I'm telling you just a quick he

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<v Speaker 5>was the only guy after we played USC and you

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<v Speaker 5>know he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He won uh College Defensive Player of the Year that war.

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<v Speaker 5>John Robinson after the game came in our locker room,

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<v Speaker 5>stood in front.

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<v Speaker 2>Our whole team and told Wilbur in front the whole team,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the greatest.

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<v Speaker 5>Defensive performance I've ever seen on the collegiate level. And

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<v Speaker 5>it was just unbelievable to see John Robinson walking our

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<v Speaker 5>locker room after defeat and Tail.

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<v Speaker 2>Wilble that man.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're right, Tom, one of the greatest players I've

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<v Speaker 5>ever played with.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a great story that you don't hear every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's when you think of guys like Chip Banks

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<v Speaker 3>or Ronnie Lott or some of the other greats of

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<v Speaker 3>the greats that John Robinson got to be around and

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<v Speaker 3>coming to an opponent's locker room and just congratulating for

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<v Speaker 3>an effort like that, something that probably stick with you

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, absolutely one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the greats as you are. And I know the disappointment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Hall of Fame you made, you made uh

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<v Speaker 1>deep in there, so it's common. I mean, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you how do you how do you how are you

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<v Speaker 1>accepting and handling it?

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<v Speaker 2>So another bear story I just told you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I was with Jimbo Covert, uh probably about two months

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<v Speaker 5>ago maybe yeah, about two months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And man, the words that that man gave me. Man

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<v Speaker 2>the encouraging word he said to me.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, after how long it took him to get

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<v Speaker 5>in there, what he had to go through.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, he made me feel so good just.

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.959
<v Speaker 5>Talking to Jimbo Man, so one of the great guys

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<v Speaker 5>that ever played the game. And look, it's no shame

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 5>when you see guys that you played against, that were

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<v Speaker 5>right in your division go to the Hall of Fame

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 5>that played the same position you play that Let just

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<v Speaker 5>lets me know the competition I went up against.

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Think about it. You got jimbo Kovid, you got Gary Zimmerman.

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<v Speaker 2>You know guys that played around our era. The you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 5>And we got other guys competing in that same area

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<v Speaker 5>the get era to get into the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 5>So Richmond, well he just got to be one of

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<v Speaker 5>the finalists. He's been waiting a long time. So it

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 5>ain't no shame because it was so many great offensive linemen,

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 5>especially tackles back in my era when I played, so Man, kudos.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jim Man, that's my guy. Man love, big fellow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to hear that. And uh, the day will come,

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<v Speaker 1>The day will come, Lomas, the day is gonna come.

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<v Speaker 1>I know those are trite words when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>have your hearts. I appreciate it, you know it it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. Hey, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you, and we'll see you on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely looking forward to.

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 3>He almost come in for some hot coffee because we'll

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 3>have it in our booth.

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm will because I'm gonna be dress long. Take care.

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<v Speaker 1>Discuss that David Montgomery aspect of things, Tom. I like

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<v Speaker 1>when he walks down Memory Lane with you, fellow offensive lineman,

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and and and you know the disappointment he must feel.

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>But the encouragement from Jimbo about the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a cool story.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what's weird about Lomus. One quick story is

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<v Speaker 3>is saying hi and goodbye to him.

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>After the Detroup fun time.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, we always had the upper hand on

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 3>those guys back then, and so you kind of always

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<v Speaker 3>out for Lomas because he is such a good quality

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 3>guy and he's such a good football player, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was the type of guy at that time along with

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<v Speaker 3>your Calvin Johnson and your Barry Sanders and the good

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<v Speaker 3>players that they've had through Damkasou throughout the Detroit career

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.239
<v Speaker 3>that they never really got surrounded by great players, so

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 3>they didn't have the success that we are having. And

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<v Speaker 3>now I feel really fortunate to get the chance to

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 3>talk to him on this.

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 4>End of it, and they all understand what.

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 3>David Montgomery missing time means to this offense. And he

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 3>was saying that David Montgomery is not giving up, that

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to multi, multiple visits to doctors to see

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<v Speaker 3>if he can maybe get back on the field. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want David Montgomery to do something that's not

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<v Speaker 3>beneficial for the long term of his career. But I've

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<v Speaker 3>always known David as a guy, especially when he was

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<v Speaker 3>with the Bears, how he was determined, how much he

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 3>was determined to get back on the field after any

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 3>type of injury setback.

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<v Speaker 1>So the crazy thing about this division, and I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>you hundred percent on David for sure, and I think

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>they'll have it. You know, there's a different attitude the

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 1>way he runs the football that you know, when he

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>started that game, it was David Montgomery pounded away, you know,

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and he sets the tone.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Jamar Gibbs a super fortunate since he's coming

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<v Speaker 3>to the NFL that he's had that guy in front

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 3>of him that he can reach out to and he

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 3>could try to catch up to and he could be

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<v Speaker 3>influenced by now. When you're the main key of a

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<v Speaker 3>position and you got to do all those things that

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<v Speaker 3>David Montgomery has already put on display. That is challenging

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<v Speaker 3>and it is a test. And when you get up

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<v Speaker 3>at six o'clock Sunday morning and you walk over the

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Soldier Field and it's twenty something degrees with possible gust

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<v Speaker 3>up to twenty six miles an hour, it's a whole

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 3>different feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, when you walk out in that field.

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>It's not a podcast without Tom Thaer's weather report. It

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<v Speaker 1>really isn't. Well, I don't even look anymore because I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm I'm not gonna hear from.

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<v Speaker 3>You when the three to eleven miles an hour with

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<v Speaker 3>gust up to twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've been pretty much right on the money all

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>year long, all year long. You know, the Lions have

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>not lost a road game. I know have not lost

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<v Speaker 1>a road game.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you can you do you have the schedule in

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<v Speaker 4>front of you?

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.479
<v Speaker 4>Can you can you say? Their road games?

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So the Detroit Lions. Lions have played at Dallas and

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>at Minnesota to start the year. They won forty seven

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>nine and thirty one, twenty nine at at Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four to fourteen November three, Right, okay, Uh, they

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<v Speaker 1>played at Houston, won by a field goal in door

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>one at Indy twenty four to six and door and

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<v Speaker 1>here we are at Chicago at San Francisco next week

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and then they wrap against Minnesota. They're four to zero

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>division unbeaten on the road. Two things that help you

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>get to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I agree.

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 3>And you know that was when I asked Lomas Brown,

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 3>does this team know how win? Because winning throughout the

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 3>course of the season and winning one it counts at

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 3>the end of the season and into the playoffs. That's

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 3>really judgment day in terms of does this team know

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 3>how to win? And so I think they still have

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 3>a lot on the line. But I do think the

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 3>conditions on Sunday will be some of the most difficult

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 3>that they'll play in up until this point, even though

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about their rainy conditions in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>all right. The day's News on Thursday heard from the coordinators,

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<v Speaker 1>as we always do. Let's start with the offensive coordinator.

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Chris Beatty looking at things from his perspective of first

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>game against Detroit, felt that they made great adjustments at

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>halftime and again still pounding that rock on, starting faster

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Tom and they he said it, no hole digging, be aggressive,

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>come up with the right way to attack the defensive

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>personnel and adjust to that along the way, and I

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>feel it will it will make a completely different look

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>to the game, in a different feel for this team.

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>If the Bears can grab the momentum early and ride

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>that wave, you want to grab that crowd in light

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>of the circumstances as soon as possible on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree one hundred percent.

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 3>And you know I'm not giving advice, but my only

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 3>thought about after watching the tape, if you were going

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 3>to go for it on fourth down, you'd have to

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.719
<v Speaker 3>explore every option that you have given to you at

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 3>that point, and a difficult fourth down to try to

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 3>to make up that first play that first fourth down

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 3>they went for, because I do think both fourth downs

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 3>in that third down that was a fumble cause and

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>they gained possession of him. I do think those three

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 3>plays alone factored in what could have been a different

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 3>outcome in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>On last Monday night.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I walked through on the first two days

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>of the week's practice tom no goal for Tevin Jenkins,

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>calf still no Gervon Dexter, Ryan Bates arrest day from

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Mercedes Lewis. On the upside, an upgrade to a full

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>participation after missing a game with a concussion for Braxton

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Jones and Roshan Johnson who's missed He got hurt in

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the Detroit game and had not been back since. But

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I saw him in shoulder pads yesterday at Hallis Hall.

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And then Darryl Taylor also a full return. So those

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>are some things, you know. Roshan, you know, he's got

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>six rushing touchdowns. He's been the hammer to DeAndre Swift,

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.479
<v Speaker 1>the one two punch in the backfield, and he and

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Keenan now with the team high six touchdowns. Obviously, Keenan's

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>through the air and a Bracson return looks promising.

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one thing about Rochean.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 3>If I'm throwing a pass and I need max protection,

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 3>he's the back that I want it in there. I

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 3>think he's technically the soundest of all the backs in

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 3>terms of that kind of fundamentals. Braxton, I'm glad he's there,

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 3>give competitives to the position, and I'm not saying here

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 3>that I would put him right back in the lineup.

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 3>There's a chance that I may play on a GAJI

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 3>again and see what he can offer me at home,

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<v Speaker 3>see if he can offer what he can offer me

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<v Speaker 3>in more favorable conditions at home, And then you know,

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Tevin Jenkins.

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<v Speaker 4>I would hope to see.

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 3>I would hope to think that maybe he'd be ready

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<v Speaker 3>to play by Sunday. And I'm glad to see Darryl

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Taylor back because I think that Eric Washington did a

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 3>really nice job of defensive lineman rotation, not only who

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 3>was playing, but where they are playing. And I think

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 3>they got significant pressure on to Darnold, and I think

0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 3>with less escapability by golf, I do think that Eric

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 3>can do the same with the largest group of guys.

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Heck, it's even possible. I'd imagine then if if Tevin's

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and no Go Kuran could play left guard.

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to Eric Washington. You know, he

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>was very firm at the podium, all serious, nothing, just

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>very very serious on this day. Felt that they impacted

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback obviously, as you mentioned against of Sam Darnold.

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>He thought it was a spirited performance and full effort.

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<v Speaker 1>But the twenty one points, he says, it was related

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<v Speaker 1>to penalties. In his mind, that's got to stop. So

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<v Speaker 1>the penalties. Complimented Daniel Hardy on the pressure on the

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<v Speaker 1>Stevenson interception, and it's critical in his mind, they got

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<v Speaker 1>to defend the run better than they did it. Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>in that first game.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think they have to defend a run inside

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<v Speaker 3>the tackles better than they in the Detroit game. I

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<v Speaker 3>think when Detroit tried to run outside the tackles, the

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<v Speaker 3>lateral pursuit of the Bears defense did a nice job.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the immediacy of point of attack inside

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<v Speaker 3>the shoulders of each offensive tackle was hit quickly enough

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<v Speaker 3>where guys were either still fighting off blocks or guys

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<v Speaker 3>weren't in position to make the plays. And so that

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<v Speaker 3>is the biggest challenge to the defense is that interior

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<v Speaker 3>style of defense be more battle winning immediately to stop

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<v Speaker 3>that interior run.

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<v Speaker 1>there have been some highlights so over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. They had some penalty issues early on in

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<v Speaker 1>the season. That's ironed out for the most part. But

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<v Speaker 1>you get a guy like Dominique Robinson. We discussed this

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<v Speaker 1>in our Monday podcast, but high Tower really gave him

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of compliments on that block punt. Rarely up

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<v Speaker 1>Max effort on that play and others cooperate Agba Mamiga

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>So, when you're repetitively taught on punt block and you

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<v Speaker 3>know it's an all out block, your aiming point at

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<v Speaker 3>all blockers is the foot of the punter and take

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<v Speaker 3>the ball off the foot of the punter without contact.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>That was blocked by his face mask with elbow contact

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<v Speaker 3>to the chest to the punter. And so Dominique had

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<v Speaker 3>won his rush so quickly that he was beyond the

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<v Speaker 3>foot in the leg of the punter long before the

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<v Speaker 3>ball was ever being dropped to the punter's foot. And so,

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<v Speaker 3>from the technical standpoint of a perfectly designed block, Dominique

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<v Speaker 3>took exactly what was offered to him, and he made

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<v Speaker 3>the most out of it. And I congratulate him on

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<v Speaker 3>that effort and that reward.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's touchy because you got no it's a

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<v Speaker 1>numbers game, But can one play like that on special

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<v Speaker 1>teams as physical and violent as he attacked? It earn

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<v Speaker 1>him an active spot to play more on special teams

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<v Speaker 1>and get into that rotation up front defensively here in

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<v Speaker 1>the final weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think he's got the athleticism that you

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't not give him a chance on any one of

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<v Speaker 3>the special teams. Is he a willing and a capable

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<v Speaker 3>blocking on kickoff return yes? Is he a willing and

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<v Speaker 3>capable rusher on kickoff coverage yes? Can he block on

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<v Speaker 3>punt coverage yes? Can he block? I mean, can he

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<v Speaker 3>rush on punt block?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>So everything that you need out of him, including extra

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<v Speaker 3>point and field goal rush, there's a place for him.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing about Dominique Robinson throughout his career.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's not a regular in the pass rush in

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<v Speaker 3>the past defensive line rotation, he's gonna have to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to keep his stripes earned on special teams a

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<v Speaker 3>lot like Israel Adonaje throughout his career and then ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>what became of him in the aftermath as he became

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<v Speaker 3>every down player. So to me, I just like dominic

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<v Speaker 3>Robinson's determination to be good and to be better every day.

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