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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that in the midnight hour with

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Speaker 2: pros and cons because this is getting crazy. He just

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Speaker 2: got a preliminary injunction in court, so now you can transfer.

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Speaker 2: After you've transferred twice, we'll get back on that. How

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Speaker 2: about those Los Angeles Dodgers. They sign a pitcher, Well,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna make more than Garrett Cole and he's never

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Speaker 2: thrown a single pitch in the major leagues. I get it,

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Speaker 2: he's got a pedigree, and uh, we're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: finally the saga of Aaron Rodgers turns out he's not

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Speaker 2: mine since high school. And we're gonna talk about you know,

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Speaker 2: Just to Faigezy to begin with, we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 2: of the hour. But I want to go back to

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers. That is where we begin. You know, baseball

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Speaker 2: is an interesting sport. It's predicated on failure like no

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Speaker 2: other sport. Every fifteen seconds there's failure. Pitcher fails to

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers are getting richer now. The Guggenheim Group, when

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Speaker 2: they bought the Dodgers years ago, I always said it

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Speaker 2: was a vanity by it. I don't say that, by

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Speaker 2: They own some of the most prestigious art collections in

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Speaker 2: Dodgers are building a super team. First, they land the

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Speaker 2: Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Late Thursday night, Yamamoto agreed to a twelve

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Speaker 2: the Yankees. Now, once so Tani signed, of course, all

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Speaker 2: It basically leads to the illusion that the ball is rising.

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Speaker 2: But they teased us for weeks he actually might come back.

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Speaker 2: Would he come back? But we're going to talk to

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Speaker 2: talk to Doug Anderson coming up next. I'm Bernie Fraddle.

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Speaker 2: Take up to two am Pacific, five am Eastern hashtag

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and I've been looking forward to getting this

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Speaker 2: school football buddy Doug Anderson. Merry Christmas, Thanks so much

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Speaker 5: You're very welcome, Britty.

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Speaker 2: So before I want to set this up because a

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Speaker 2: year ago on Monday Night football, when DeMar Hamlin collapsed

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Speaker 2: athletes who've come back from achilles. Please explain to the

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Speaker 6: forty percent of NFL players who tear their achilles never

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Speaker 6: return to the NFL. So it's pretty dark serious. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: if you're a star player, that means you can come

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Speaker 6: lot better than the average person. The average player, you know,

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Speaker 6: the average player, Right, he loses ten or twenty percent.

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Speaker 2: That's very interesting. That's a high percentage. Now in other

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Speaker 2: A couple other final things here looking ahead to next year, Uh,

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Speaker 6: I tell you what, It's gonna be much safer, a

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Speaker 2: Doug outstanding stuff, great command on the situation from a

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, Uh it's Anderson A N D E, R

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Speaker 2: Great stuff. Merry Christmas. We'll be talking soon. You are

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Speaker 2: officially my doctor David Chow for the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 9: All right, buddy, Hi, thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: Happy holiday, tou and all your listeners.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you. That is Doug Anderson. He's a

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Speaker 2: And I never really bought into the fact that Rogers

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that coming up, but first let's go

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Speaker 2: to our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest.

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Speaker 10: All right, Bernie will check in with Lefcoast NBA hoops

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Speaker 10: getting a triple double from Demata Sabonis. They defeated Phoenix

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Speaker 10: one twenty two oh five. Sons have lost four of

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Speaker 10: five and are just fourteen and fourteen on the season.

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Speaker 10: Dallas was without Luka Dancik and Kyrie Irving. They lost

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Speaker 10: at Houston one twenty two to nine, Denver defeating Brooklyn

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Speaker 10: one twenty two to one seventeen. It was the heat

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Speaker 10: one twenty two to one thirteen a victory over Atlanta,

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Speaker 10: joyl and Beads scoring thirty one points with ten rebounds

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Speaker 10: as a seventy six ers defeat at Toronto. In the NFL,

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Speaker 10: Texans quarterbacks c J. Shaut will miss his second consecutive

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Speaker 10: game with the concussion. Houston defensive Endwill Anderson has also

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Speaker 10: been ruled out for that game against Cleveland with an

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Speaker 10: the Titans. Colts running back Jonathan Taylor is expected to

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Speaker 10: play after missing the last few games with a thumb injury.

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Speaker 10: Top twenty five college basketball victories for Kansas, Texas, Marquette,

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Speaker 3: Back to Bernie Friddle.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a topic every week that I very

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Speaker 2: much want to hear the callers talk about. We had

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Speaker 2: very spirited discussions about, for instance, what are the playoff

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Speaker 2: committee got a write a couple of weeks ago. And

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Speaker 2: not so sure it is working. It's working for some people,

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Speaker 2: maybe not for others. But there's a hell of a

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Speaker 2: way that I don't hear of being talked about. The

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Speaker 2: reality of it. Okay, the Los Angeles Rams Thursday night game.

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Speaker 2: Don't look now, but the Rams have won sixth of

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Speaker 2: their past seven games. Their only loss came in overtime

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Speaker 2: at the Baltimore the AFC leading Baltimore Ravens and Frankly

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Speaker 2: and I watched the game. The Rams were a seven

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Speaker 2: point underdog. They outplayed Baltimore that day, could have easily won.

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Speaker 2: If you want to get into this thing they call analytics,

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Speaker 2: percent chance to make the playoffs. Now now, had the

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Speaker 2: Rams lost to New Orleans Derek Carr doing his magic,

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Speaker 2: doing his magic in New Orleans, Wow, I don't care

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Speaker 2: that he threw for three hundred nineteen yards the first

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Speaker 2: quarter and a half. He stuck it up, couldn't do

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Speaker 2: anything in the red zone on third down or on

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Speaker 2: fourth down, and all of a sudden they this wild,

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Speaker 2: crazy try to come back, and he knew they were

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Speaker 2: were going to fall short. They were like the little engine.

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Speaker 2: Who couldn't that Dennis Allen Derek Carr. What a combination. Wow? Well,

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Speaker 2: had the Rams lost to that combination, their chances would

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Speaker 2: have fallen to seventeen percent. But the Rams offense has

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Speaker 2: come alive. Matt Stafford has returned from his thumb injury,

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Speaker 2: appears to be healthy. He got hurt in Week eleven,

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Speaker 2: and I've bagged on Matt Stafford a lot because I

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Speaker 2: saw it Detroit and I'm tired of the excuses. And

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Speaker 2: there were a couple three times he was surrounded by

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Speaker 2: good teams, couldn't do anything with it. But he's come

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Speaker 2: back from a stumb injury. And I've always said that

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Speaker 2: Matt Stafford is a gamer, he will play hurt, and

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Speaker 2: he's a popular guy in the locker room. Never have

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Speaker 2: denied him that. Since Stafford has come back from Week eleven,

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Speaker 2: the Rams has now scored at least twenty eight points

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Speaker 2: in five straight games. That's saying something. Remember this big

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Speaker 2: controversy about running backs, and we're so disrespected, Gollie g

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Speaker 2: we get to play the victim. You hate us, No,

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Speaker 2: when you have a guy like Karen Williams. Karen Williams,

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Speaker 2: this is a guy the head coach, Sean mcvays praised

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Speaker 2: multiple times for making the Rams a much better team

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Speaker 2: when he's he on the field. He actually passed one

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Speaker 2: thousand rushing yards for the season. He was the first

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Speaker 2: Rams player to hit that mark since Todd Gurley in

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. Gurley got the big contract. How'd it work out. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I hope the running backs can make all the money

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Speaker 2: they can make. And when you and by the way,

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Speaker 2: it's the position is as valuable as ever been. I

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Speaker 2: just told you about Kyrie Williams. The difference is it's

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Speaker 2: more interchangeable. That's the story for a different day. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to revisit that back in some of my year

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Speaker 2: and stories. Will be doing several shows next week.

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Speaker 3: Not yet.

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Speaker 2: If the Saints kind of closed the gap on the Rams,

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Speaker 2: Derek Carr hit Rashid Shaheed with a touchdown pass and

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Speaker 2: you know, but I never really felt the Rams were

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Speaker 2: in danger. They established controller, they took ConTroll early Stafford

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Speaker 2: twenty four to thirty four, three twenty eight, two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: He's now throwing multiple passing touchdowns in five straight games.

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Speaker 2: This is a actually, it's his longest streak since joining

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Speaker 2: the Rams, including the Super Bowl year. This is a

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Speaker 2: very promising trend because the Rams are playing complimentary football

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Speaker 2: on both sides. They got a couple of rookie pass rushers.

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Speaker 2: Kobe Turner, who sacked Derek Carr on fourth down in

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Speaker 2: the second quarter, now leads all NFL rookies with seven

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Speaker 2: sacks this season. He passed his teammate Byron Young, who

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Speaker 2: has six Are they household names? No? Turner trails only

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Speaker 2: Aaron Donald for the most sacks by Rams rookie since

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Speaker 2: sacks became an official stat. Another breakout performance, DeMarcus Robinson

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Speaker 2: scored a touchdown for the fourth game in a row

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Speaker 2: and now appears he's the Rams number three receiver. Remember

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Speaker 2: Cooper Cutt was heard at the beginning of the year

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Speaker 2: pookin Nasua who said scouts thought he might be a

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Speaker 2: marginal player, maybe have a chance to make a roster

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Speaker 2: Gotta love Pookin the coup out of byu Gee. Heally

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Speaker 2: ran a four five forty that turned people off. Can

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Speaker 2: the man play football? Yet? And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Cooper cup is back and DeMarcus Robinson what did I

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Speaker 2: just say? Scored a touchdown for the fourth game in

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Speaker 2: a row. I think he's the Rams number three guy.

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Speaker 2: Now he passed two to two out Well who's also

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Speaker 2: had some big catches this year. Robinson Thursday Night on

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Speaker 2: Nothing six catches eighty two yards at a touchdown against

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Speaker 2: the Saints. The only troubling trend for the Rams are

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Speaker 2: those special teams. Their kicker Wilves continue and you know

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Speaker 2: that can be bad. Lucas Harvich or check that have

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Speaker 2: or sick. He missed a field goal for forty seven

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Speaker 2: yards in the second quarter. He's missed the league high

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Speaker 2: eleven field goals this season. It's the most by any

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Speaker 2: team since the twenty fifteen Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the

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Speaker 2: Rams Special teams. Wolves also included a block punt in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. That's at the sands tough for a

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Speaker 2: touchdown that got the game to a one score. But

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Speaker 2: next up for the Rams at the relatively happless New

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Speaker 2: York Giants. I kind of like the time of DeVito's story,

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Speaker 2: but I think the league's kind of come up, caught

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Speaker 2: up to him. They always do. But Sunday, December thirty,

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Speaker 2: first New Year's Eve, the Rams visit New York. They'll

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Speaker 2: be favored to win in that game. Don't look now.

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Speaker 2: The Rams, I believe, are a playoff team, and with

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Speaker 2: a very interesting pivotal NFL weekend. We're gonna break it

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Speaker 2: down heavily on my Saturday night show. We'll have Jared

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Speaker 2: And this is they always remember what you did in December.

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Speaker 2: This is a big time weekend. There's games Thursday, Saturday,

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Speaker 2: the NFL's holiday takeover is now reaching new heights. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about that coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're come

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Speaker 2: know the NFL's holiday takeover. They've always kind of owned

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Speaker 2: the holidays. Remember last year they had a Christmas Day

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Speaker 2: triple header. He averaged twenty two point nine million viewers.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this year, Christmas falls on a Monday, and

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Speaker 2: And it's already working. New Orleans and the Rams last night,

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs, even though Cincinnati's alive. But when you

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Speaker 2: give me a standalone NFL game on a holiday, it's

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Speaker 2: The NBA has believed it owns the Christmas Day not

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Speaker 2: you'll see NFL games on a Tuesday or a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a Thursday, not a Friday. So we'll see how

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Speaker 2: Everythanks Giving, the NFL flexus say its motto is family,

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Speaker 2: the league's tagline might as well be football, more football,

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00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: more football, and more football. They didn't even include family

644
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: and food, just football. Nearly half the league's going to

645
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Speaker 2: play it on a national broadcast window at seven week

646
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: sixteen games get stand loan audiences. I don't care if

647
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: it's Amazon, Prime, NBC, Peacock, NFL Network, CBS, Fox, ABC, Cheesh,

648
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: everything but the damn Home Shopping Network. According to Front

649
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: Office Sports and their research, that's a record number for

650
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: the NFL, all those different modalities. So we skipped to

651
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Speaker 2: Monday Raiders and Chiefs ten am Pacific right out of

652
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Speaker 2: the gate. You open up your gifts from Santa Claus,

653
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: you turn on the two and you got Las Vegas,

654
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: Kansas City. By then the egg Knox kicking in, you

655
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 2: got the Giants Philadelphia. Then, of course the game that's

656
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: being the most talked about Saturday night. Check that Monday

657
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: Night excuse me, National TV Monday Night Football, as it

658
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: were the same time slot. The Baltimore Ravens at eleven

659
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: and three against the San Francisco forty nine Ers eleven

660
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: and three, again, a game heavily talked about. Money's coming

661
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: on Baltimore. They opened up as a six and a

662
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: half point dog. I believe now they're down to five

663
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: and a half five depender depending on where you shop,

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Speaker 2: it'll be a referendum game for both teams. Most people feel,

665
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: barring injury, the forty nine Ers will be your NFC

666
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: infant in the Super Bowl. I'm not quite as high

667
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Speaker 2: on Baltimore as other people. I've seen teams like Indianapolis

668
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: and Cleveland and the Rams. I'll play them in their

669
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: own building. So I would just say this, Baltimore, don't

670
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: tell me, show me you got a healthy Lamar Jackson.

671
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: Now you've got an above average defense, You've got on

672
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: paper a prolific offense, and I think you're getting O'Dell

673
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: Beckham back, and all you got to do is prove

674
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: it on the field. Speeches don't work in the NFL.

675
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Speaker 2: And I doubt the Ravens win in San Francisco Monday night.

676
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: If they do, they do. But that in and of itself,

677
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: that in fifty cents will gets you a cup of

678
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: coffee McDonald's. You still got to You're still gonna have

679
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: to do it in January. It's so easy. Just ask

680
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. So again Monday. This will be the NFL's

681
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: second attempt at a Christmas Day doubleheader. Last year they

682
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 2: had a trio of games I just mentioned average almost

683
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: twenty three million viewers today a Christmas call or this

684
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Speaker 2: year Christmas falls on a Monday. I think this is

685
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Speaker 2: a good thing. Is it a good thing? I yes,

686
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: standalone broadcasts, I know sometimes it can be something to

687
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: be desired when the matchup doesn't deliver. For instance, last Thursday,

688
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 2: Last Thursday, now excuse me, game played here in Las Vegas.

689
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: Prime Video saw its first viewership decline of twenty twenty

690
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Speaker 2: three because the Raiders blew out the Chargers. Sixty three

691
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Speaker 2: to twenty one. It was down twenty three percent compared

692
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Speaker 2: to Amazon Week fifteen game in twenty twenty two. But

693
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: you know why, it wasn't a game anymore. People bet

694
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Speaker 2: the Raiders, people bet the over, whatever the case was.

695
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: I know the books got slaughtered in that game. So

696
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: if you're back East and you got the Raiders and

697
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: you're up forty two to nothing, other half, you go

698
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 2: to bed. It's called a rocky chair game. It happens.

699
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 2: So there's seven national broadcasts. Might be good for advertisers.

700
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure how many of the games will

701
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: be dramatic, but you're gonna be watching. You're gonna be watching.

702
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: The more, more, the merrier. That's just the way it

703
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: works in the NFL. Now again, I mentioned this a

704
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: second ago. Sources with knowledge of the league's broadcasting operations.

705
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: They told Front Office Sports that fitting more than seven

706
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: national windows into a single weekend is tough to imagine.

707
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: And I agree with that, but don't I would expect

708
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: them to break that record at some point in the future.

709
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: For instance, in twenty twenty six, Christmas Day lands on

710
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: a Friday, So imagine this lineup Thursday night football on

711
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Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, a Christmas Day triple header, a potential triple

712
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Speaker 2: header on Saturday, the traditional Sunday Monday night matchups that

713
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: could be as many as nine national game broadcasts. So

714
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Speaker 2: the question is are you ready for some football? Yes,

715
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: you know you are? Are you ready away? And then

716
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: that debate, we need to have a debate or we

717
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: need to have a conversation eight seven, seven, nine nine

718
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: sixty six three sixty nine. Over one thousand college football

719
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Speaker 2: players entered the transfer portal about a week ago, completely

720
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Speaker 2: blue past last year's one day record of seven hundred

721
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Speaker 2: and seventy five. That's equivalent to forty recruiting classes, and

722
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Speaker 2: if you zoom out about seven percent of all Division

723
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: one football players, it's almost impossible to keep up. But

724
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Speaker 2: the market right out of the gate flooded with quarterbacks

725
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: and good ones. Washington State's Cam Ward, Ohio State's Colin McCord,

726
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's Dylan Gabriel. Obviously, he's already landed now in a

727
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: new spot on his way to Oregon, Duke's Riley Leonard left,

728
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: Oregon State's dj Uey Agualiley, Kansas State's Will Howard. These

729
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: guys are all gonna get seven figures, and some already have.

730
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Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks are dealing CHICKI. Dylan Gabriel already has plenty

731
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Speaker 2: of other big names too. But there's a there's a

732
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: backstory here. You know. Last week conference to UNSA it

733
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Speaker 2: reached it released its annual aw Conference team, but seventeen

734
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Speaker 2: of the players have already entered the transfer portal? Is

735
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Speaker 2: this good or bad? You want to hear from you?

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven nine nine six six ' three six

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Speaker 2: nine eight seven seven ninety nine On Fox we dive

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Speaker 2: into this thing called nil and Transfer Portal, the pros

739
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Speaker 2: and cons? Is it good? Who wins? Who loses? Want

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Speaker 2: to hear from you? Keep it locked. You're listening to

741
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Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be. This nil cancer portal

749
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Speaker 2: thing is for real? The question is it working? Wait

750
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Speaker 2: till I tell you about Texas A and M's program

751
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: called Amplify, an incredibly targeted, coordinated effort between boosters and donors,

752
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: and they brought in the number one recruiting class in

753
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. What has it gotten in the last

754
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: two years? Meanwhile, the group of five teams are getting

755
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Speaker 2: bled dry? Is this good? Is this bad? We want

756
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Speaker 2: to hear from you eight seven seven nine nine six

757
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Speaker 2: six three six ' nine. Let's go to Miles in Waco, Texas.

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Speaker 2: Miles start us off tonight. What are your thoughts on

759
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: this nil portal saga?

760
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Speaker 11: Hey, Bernie, thanks for taking my call. First things first,

761
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Speaker 11: I think with the portal, I think whenever you look

762
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 11: at it, I know a lot of people are, you know,

763
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Speaker 11: kind of weary of it. But the way that I

764
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 11: kind of take away from this is in students that

765
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Speaker 11: are there academically not playing sports, they can most schools

766
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 11: whenever they want. They just have to be accepted into

767
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 11: a new institution. They don't get penalized sports necessarily. These

768
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Speaker 11: coaches a lot of times they have boosters that pay

769
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Speaker 11: for their buyouts and they can leave freely and take

770
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Speaker 11: a job one year and be out the next. So

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Speaker 11: you're going to penalize the players that necessarily may have

772
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Speaker 11: committed to a coach instead of a program. I know

773
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Speaker 11: it sounds a little ridiculous on space, but that's the reality.

774
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Speaker 11: A lot of these coaches are there for a year

775
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 11: or two and bounce and there's another destination for a

776
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Speaker 11: couple of years and bounced. And so I don't think

777
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Speaker 11: kids should be penalized. I think the bigger problem is

778
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 11: the nil issue, and I actually have I think would

779
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Speaker 11: be a unique approach to it, which is make these

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Speaker 11: collectives disclose what they're given to these kids. Because I mean,

781
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Speaker 11: we've been told supposedly that Texas A and MP millions

782
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Speaker 11: and millions of dollars, but there's no proof and I'm

783
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Speaker 11: not I'm by no means of my Texas and O

784
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 11: Maggie fans. But make these collectives disclose what they are

785
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 11: paying two players. And I mean it's going to be

786
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 11: a great lesson if they go professionally, because guess what,

787
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 11: everybody on the team is going to know what each

788
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 11: player is making anyways, So you know, have them disclose

789
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Speaker 11: what they're paying these kids, and it gets a little

790
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 11: less money.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks for checking in, Miles. Two good points.

792
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't contest any either one with respect to

793
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: the transfer portal and coaches can come and go, students

794
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: can come and go. I get it. I'm not going

795
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: to take the opposites out of that. And I will

796
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: tell you I played college baseball and my coach, Bob

797
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: Palmroy retired for my freshman year, and I loved him.

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00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: He was an older guy, he was time to go

799
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Speaker 2: and I went there because of him. I didn't know

800
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: he's going to retire, So I have empathy for players

801
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: that happens to And as far as the NIL, we're

802
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: gonna get into the Texas A and M stuff a

803
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Speaker 2: little later. I'm gonna share with you what they did

804
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: in an effort to win. Here's here's the other part

805
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Speaker 2: of the equation. A boy eight seven, seven, nine, nine

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Speaker 2: sixty six three sixty nine. If you want to win

807
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: on the portal and or the NIL situation. As I

808
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: mentioned last week, Conference USA released and saw conference team.

809
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: But if you look at the list of the players

810
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Speaker 2: who made it, you'll already find seventeen players who've transferred.

811
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: Florida International. They had a wide receiver named Chris Mitchell.

812
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 2: He's off the Notre Dame. He's got a teammate alignment.

813
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Speaker 2: Jordan Garratt, he's going to Minnesota. I could give you

814
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: names of these players, but they wouldn't maybe ring a bell.

815
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Speaker 2: Maybe they will next year. Every Group of five league

816
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: is going through something similar. Toledo, they're MAC Player of

817
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: the Year. He's currently available in the portal. Guy named

818
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Speaker 2: Kwan Finn, last year's MAC Player of the Year, Ohio

819
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Speaker 2: quarterback Curtis Rourke. Grace to McCall, the three times Sun

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Speaker 2: Built Player of the Year left Coast of Carolina. I

821
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Speaker 2: believe it's Geek committed to North Carolina State on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: All these players of the year, the player of the

823
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Speaker 2: Year at Texas San Antonio and outside linebacker one of

824
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: the most coveted players on the market. We are seeing

825
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: a talent train in the Group of five and it's

826
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Speaker 2: not slowing down anytime soon. Nearly six hundred scholarship player

827
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Speaker 2: are nearly six hundred scholarship players from the Group of

828
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Speaker 2: five programs. They already put their name of the portal

829
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Speaker 2: during this most current cycle. And what the portal does,

830
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 2: what it entices you to bet on yourself, and it's

831
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Speaker 2: hard to resist. If you've got a player at a

832
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Speaker 2: mid major school and maybe they were late bloomers, or

833
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: maybe they were under recruited or they were amissed. Recruiting

834
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Speaker 2: is an inexact art, and it's an inexact science, And

835
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you can leave your Group of

836
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Speaker 2: five school and go to a Power five school and

837
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Speaker 2: maybe put a few on a grant in your pocket.

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00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: You tell me you're not gonna do that, And why

839
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Speaker 2: wouldn't they test their luck? Power five programs are sending

840
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: more players away from Group of five than ever before

841
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: in the transfer portal cycle. Last year, one hundred and

842
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: twenty three G five scholarship players transferred up. This year

843
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: checked out. That was two years ago. Last year that

844
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Speaker 2: doubled a two hundred and thirty nine. And it's only

845
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: gonna get bigger. And so what it's creating is a

846
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: portal food chain. Power five programs. Naturally, they're always looking

847
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: to upgrade their rosters. Now they might have to get

848
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: in pricey bidding wars. Some are willing to do it,

849
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: some maybe aren't willing to do it, And thanks to

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00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: the popularity of the portal, more Power five caliber high

851
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 2: school recruits. Well, they're ending up on G five rosters.

852
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: They can play right away, they can make money. But

853
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: when programs sign these top high school players and they

854
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: get more selective and they maybe have less room for transfers,

855
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: there's a suspend. There's an impact there as well. So

856
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: this has created what I consider a very intriguing market

857
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 2: opportunity for Power five recruiting departments who are savvy. Maybe

858
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: they don't have as much collective money to throw around

859
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: for acquisitions, but if they're willing to dig into the tape,

860
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: they're going to find guys on that conference You wus

861
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: say and go through the G five and say, hey,

862
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 2: you started last year. We think you can start for us.

863
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: You can transfer? Not sure how sure how much money

864
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: I got for you?

865
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 12: You know.

866
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: One of the things Miles brought up is is is

867
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: reveal you know how much these players are making. I

868
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: thought they were kind of doing that. I thought they

869
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: kind of bragged about it. And I don't know if

870
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: anybody ever ever vets it, but I thought that was

871
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: actually happening. To go back on to the phone line

872
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: to a poppy from San Diego, John, just what's happening

873
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: to Poppy.

874
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 13: Hey, it's like, you know, back in the day, it

875
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 13: was about scholarships, and nowadays it's like, show me the money.

876
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 13: How much more can I get for me and benefit

877
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 13: for myself and my family? And hey, maybe I could

878
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 13: even get drafted because you know there they don't, they'll

879
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 13: have a better position and going to the draft NFL draft.

880
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 13: So that's what these kids are thinking, you know. And

881
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 13: as I told you before, you know, Ben, maybe Pat

882
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 13: Bernie Fredo, I told you that, you know, Michigan, Jim Harvel,

883
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 13: they're gonna be national champions, and I'm sticking with my guts.

884
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 13: They're gonna be Alabama and the Roads bows and there's

885
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 13: guy's the limit for Michigan with Jim Harvell.

886
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 7: And that's what I think.

887
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 13: The point is how much money can you get for.

888
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 7: Me and my future?

889
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 13: How can it benefit me? Not scholarships?

890
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 6: No more?

891
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: All right, very good, poppy, good stuff. You're not wrong,

892
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: You're not wrong. The scholarship actually, while still very important, frankly,

893
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: has become secondary to some players because we're getting millions

894
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: of dollars. I mean, if you're dealing Gabriel, you're transferring

895
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: to Lorgan. I'm hearing he's getting a million and a

896
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: half and I confirmed that. I don't know, but I

897
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: believe that's a fair number. It's a lot of money.

898
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: What's the cost to go to Oregon one year? Seventy

899
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: five grand? That's pocket change. Now. One of the things

900
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: again Miles brought up, was reveal how much they're making.

901
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: I thought they were doing that, but one model I

902
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 2: heard was, Hey, let's say you go to you know,

903
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: ABC University, you're a freshman out of high school. We'll

904
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: give you three million, just like arch Manning got to

905
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: go to Texas play like three downs. Quinn Ewers got

906
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: a million to go to Ohio State or I don't

907
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: actually know if he collected. I think you might have

908
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: had to start. But my point is this playing on

909
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: high school players getting anil money too. What if you

910
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: did this, You get a percentage of your money while

911
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: you're in school, maybe ten twenty percent, which is not

912
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: jump change. Because if you getting a million and a half,

913
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: well it's one hundred and fifty grand a year for

914
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: four years. You collect the rest of it when you graduate.

915
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: That might fix the situation. But back to the Texas

916
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: A and m thing. This I have verified this, I

917
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: have vetted. They created a program two years called two

918
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: years ago called Amplify, and it was well thought out,

919
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: It was well crafted, it was well planned. They had

920
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: a group of boosters and a group of donors coordinate

921
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 2: a very expensive NIL effort and they had thirty million

922
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: dollars in their pool. It was targeted, it was coordinated,

923
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: and it worked on paper. In one recruiting class, they

924
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: got six five star recruits, they got nineteen four star recruits,

925
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: they got three three star recruits. They got the number

926
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: one linebacker recruit in the country, the number one defensive

927
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: aligneman in the country, and the number two wide receiver

928
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: in the country. Two years ago. What's it got them?

929
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: What's it got them? Has it worked? And by the way,

930
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: I give Texas A and M credit for trying to

931
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: make it work because their NIL program wasn't just throwing

932
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: money at student athletes, which is I guess a Fugazi term. Now.

933
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: They provided best in class education. They were producing resources

934
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: that were helping these athletes establish personal branding and networking

935
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: and finance and media training and a lot more.

936
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 11: So.

937
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 2: It wasn't just money. They were bringing them into school

938
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: to prepare them for life. And I went to college.

939
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: I graduated. I have a degree in public relations communications journalism.

940
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: They don't teach you in college have a successful marriage,

941
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 2: how to get a job, or how to make money.

942
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: They don't teach you that. I think those are important skills. Well.

943
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: The NIL program the Amplify program at Texas A and M.

944
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: They included things like building your own digital brand, which

945
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: is huge these days, and have the Internet when I

946
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: was going to college, financial workshops, effective networking, which is

947
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: very crucial in life, how to evaluate job opportunities and

948
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: even negotiate offers. They helped these students conduct mock job

949
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: interview and by the way, Texas A and M they

950
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: have their own Naggi network on their own Letterman's Association.

951
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: They also this Amplified program assisted athletes with social media

952
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 2: auditing the social media, analyzing their social media future employers

953
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: google you now and if you said stupid things that

954
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: might be something you have to overcome, best practices, and

955
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: most importantly, how to create custom content for your own brand.

956
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: So it wasn't just hey, here's two million dollars come

957
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: to Texas A and M. This Amplified program provided a

958
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: best in class education and all sorts of resources. It

959
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: still didn't work. I'm curious to see where this ends

960
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: up over the next four to five years. Let's go

961
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 2: back out to the phones. Were joined by Mole from Idaho.

962
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on NIL on the portal?

963
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 12: Well, here's what I think. I think it's hurting the

964
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 12: sport of sports and loyalty. You know you, I'm a

965
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 12: fan of several teams in Utah and Idaho because of

966
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 12: where I live. But you really get to liking a player,

967
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 12: a quarterback or a top match player, and he's gone

968
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 12: the next year, play in the u c l A

969
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 12: or some police sales, and I think it's hurting the

970
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 12: fans of the loyalty to their teams. It is mine

971
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 12: and another thing that committed. Well, it doesn't bother me.

972
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 12: I just laugh when I see it. When like if

973
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 12: you're watching.

974
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 14: An nf L game and it'll talk about some player

975
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 14: and they'll say from Kentucky or wherever, and it's like

976
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 14: you kind of laughed because he might have played one

977
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 14: year at Kentucky.

978
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: Do you remember what to do? Coach said Mo, Well

979
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: you remember what you remember what to do? Dave class and

980
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: said check that not to do coach to wake Forest

981
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: when Sam Hartman transferred to Notre Dame and said, hey,

982
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: we we had the guy for four years, and all

983
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: of a sudden you date him for a month and

984
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: you put him on the scoreboard. Good, good stuff, excellent stuff.

985
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: Mo I don't be a stranger. Happy Mary, Chris is

986
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: down there in Idaho. Up there, Thank you. Let's go

987
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: back out to the phones. Kurt from California. Always thoughtful, Kurt,

988
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: what do you got for us tonight? And by the way, Kurt,

989
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: you there, Yes, all right, I didn't forget you predicted

990
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: Alabama would be Georgia three weeks ago he gave you

991
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 2: your flowers.

992
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

993
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 15: Well, Bert, I'm also still eating crow from the Oklahoma

994
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 15: state game.

995
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: Well, you know, put a little syrup on that crow

996
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: and wash it down with some crown row and you

997
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: will know the difference. All right, what do your.

998
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 15: Thoughts, Burt?

999
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 2: I wanted.

1000
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if this was going to make any sense.

1001
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 15: There's two definitions, and amateur as a person who engages

1002
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 15: in a pursuit that's especially a sport on an unpaid

1003
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 15: basis rather than a professional basis. And then a professional

1004
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 15: is engaged in a specific activity as one's name paid

1005
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 15: occupation rather than a pastime. So it brings me to

1006
00:53:59,320 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 15: this point.

1007
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 5: So you have these.

1008
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 15: Guys in the nil who are getting paid, and then

1009
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 15: you might have, like say an offensive tackle or a

1010
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 15: running back who's got to be cautious about his career.

1011
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 15: He's not making a dime, but he's blocking for a

1012
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 15: guy that's making a million dollars.

1013
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how to Kurt. You bring up

1014
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: an excellent point. I don't know how to navigate that.

1015
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: And also your characterization of amateur versus professional is also

1016
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: another gray area, and it's one of those situations that

1017
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: might be further defined over the next few years. But

1018
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: we had a player die in the field many years

1019
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: ago in college football in Colorado, and I'm going to

1020
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: tell that story later in the show, and why he

1021
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: was married and had a kid at the time, and

1022
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: why he was he was denied. It's it's a long story.

1023
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: But Hey, good stuff, Kurt, and we'll talk to you

1024
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 2: again as we are going to do this Friday night, midnight,

1025
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Speaker 2: midnight hour every every week on The Bernie Fraddle Show.

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00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: Coming up. I want to hear from from the crew.

1027
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Speaker 2: I want to hear from Kevin, and I want to

1028
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Speaker 2: hear from Shay and get their thoughts on this old

1029
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: nil portal uh saga and is it working? Is it

1030
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1042
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Speaker 2: Let's go back off to the phones. Joined by Stephen

1043
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Speaker 2: from Kansas City. Steven your thoughts on this subject.

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Speaker 7: Tonight, Hey Bernie, Merry Christmas Man, I love your love

1045
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 7: your show.

1046
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 5: Thank you for I think you too.

1047
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 16: This midnight midnight calling is a fantastic idea, you know.

1048
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 16: I think the big loser, no doubt this year is

1049
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 16: Florida State. I think I think Florida State is.

1050
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 5: Uh, you know.

1051
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 7: I just can't get any sympathy for them because they

1052
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 7: were the ones that were trying to bail out, calling

1053
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 7: JP Morgan on Wall Street and trying to bail out

1054
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 7: in August of their own conference, and then they come

1055
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 7: back and buy them on the rear end when the

1056
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 7: committee was an acc person. So if you're trying to

1057
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 7: if you're trying to raise by one hundred million dollars

1058
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 7: from JP Morgan Chase from the hedge fund guys to

1059
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 7: get out of the conference, no one is really going

1060
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 7: to stick up for you. I don't understand why Florida

1061
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 7: States this has this complex of thinking that they're supposed

1062
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 7: to be America Steem. They're kind of like a soldier

1063
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 7: for hire. If they go to the Big ten, fine,

1064
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 7: the Big twelve won't give them any money. I think

1065
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 7: they'll probably end.

1066
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 16: Up in the Big ten.

1067
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Speaker 7: The SEC doesn't want them. Where do you think they

1068
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Speaker 7: would they would end up? Do you think they'll go

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00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 7: begging to the Big twelve if the Big ten won't

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 7: give them any money?

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00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? Thanks for Carls Steven. Later in the show, I'm

1072
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: going to talk about this. I don't think they'll end

1073
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: up in the Big Ten's just my opinion. I don't

1074
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: think they want to go to the SEC. They can

1075
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: act like to do, but they're crazy. There's a shot

1076
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: they might sneak in the back door in the Big twelve.

1077
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: But this isn't going to be so easy. They have

1078
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: a grant of rights. It's supposed to hold the schools

1079
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: together until twenty thirty six, which they agreed to, and

1080
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: if they leave early, that's going to cost for to

1081
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: stayed a buy out of one hundred and twenty million

1082
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: dollars plus any additional legal fees. So good luck with

1083
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: that one. But we're gonna talk about that. Later in

1084
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: the show. Kurt brought up a point and by the way,

1085
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: the Midnight Hour gonna it's gonna we're gonna make it

1086
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: a real big deal starting first of the year with

1087
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: an opening, all kinds of stuff. I give Shay credit.

1088
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: It's his idea, and we're gonna roll with this because

1089
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna work. But I want to bring up something

1090
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: that Kurt from California said, and he talked about the

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00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: term student athlete. This is a real sticking point. And

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: by the way, after Kevin's update, we're gonna go back

1093
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: to Kevin and Jay and then call it. The lines

1094
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: are gonna remain open for the midnight hour. You can

1095
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: call it anytime, but I want to hear from the

1096
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: guys as well. Kurt used the term student athlete. Well,

1097
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: let's go back to nineteen fifty five and meet Ray Dennison.

1098
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: Ray Dennison was the right guard for Fort Lewis A

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00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: and M. He played for the Aggis in Colorado. He

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00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: was on scholarship. They played a game against Trinidad Community

1101
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: check that Trinidad Junior College, and on the opening kickoff,

1102
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: Dennison got need in the helmet. He shattered the base

1103
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: of his skull against his spine. He died two days

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00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: later on the field. As a college football player. He

1105
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: was married, his widow and he had children. His widow, Billy,

1106
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: filed a claim for death benefits under the Workmen's Compensation Act.

1107
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: Now the Colorado Industrial Commission approved the claim, but Fort

1108
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: Lewis College fought the case all the way to the

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00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: Supreme Court in nineteen fifty seven. Why he said Ray

1110
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: Dennison did not qualify for death benefits because quote fort

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00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: Lewis is not in the football business. Football players are

1112
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: not college employees. Here are quote student athletes. First time

1113
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 2: that term was ever used. That's why it's such a

1114
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: gray area. Kurt brought up a good point, and to

1115
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: this day we're still wrestling with that term, and it's

1116
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: more fuzzy than ever when you consider the nil and portal.

1117
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: Let's go back out to the phones. David from Kansas

1118
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: joins us. David, David, what are your thoughts tonight? Hi?

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Speaker 9: Just fun to say I enjoy your show very much. Uh,

1120
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 9: A couple of side things. I love the idea of

1121
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 9: the the music that you played all from the same

1122
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 9: wonderful source. Yes, I know, man, my foot taps all day. Okay.

1123
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Speaker 9: First of all, I'm eighty years old. I've been around

1124
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 9: the block a two times, and I believe that the

1125
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 9: answer to any of this stuff is to make one

1126
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 9: check market. And that one check mark is does this

1127
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 9: procedure follow the rules of free market capitalism? That's what

1128
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 9: that's what succeeds is free market capitalism. You'll see it

1129
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 9: as as the betting industry has suddenly exploded because the

1130
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 9: allowing the allowing a free market capitalism.

1131
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: Hey, that's an insting point. Go ahead.

1132
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 9: You were saying something, Well, what I just wanted to

1133
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 9: say that that the same thing applies to this nil

1134
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 9: and all this business people are afraid to let this

1135
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 9: stuff go and turn into a stream of free market

1136
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 9: capitalism results and when they start trying to stop it

1137
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 9: with commissions, corrupt commissions like the NCAA and some of

1138
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 9: these others that are all based on politics and not

1139
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 9: on reality. When that starts happening, that's when you crush

1140
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 9: the free flow of ideas and the ideas for people

1141
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 9: to excel at what they can do and make as

1142
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 9: much money as possible and the shortest amount of time,

1143
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 9: and have that be as legal as it can possibly get.

1144
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 9: That's what made our great country what it is today,

1145
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 9: and economic power that has to be reconquested throughout the world.

1146
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: Okay, great stuff, David. I agree with everything you say

1147
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: philosophically and ideologically. There's no question free market capitalist system,

1148
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: while not perfect, is the greatest system in the world.

1149
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: In my opinion. It all comes down to initiative and

1150
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: who's got it now. It's found its way into college

1151
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: sports and the truth of the matter is you're right

1152
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: about one thing. The market will always find its So

1153
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: in high water mark, there are going to be schools

1154
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: that are going to indulge in this and be drunk

1155
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: in the Niland portal. Maybe they're collectives, depending on if

1156
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: they get return on investment. You got asked to folks

1157
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: at Texas A and M. Are they getting return on

1158
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: their investment? They just paid it a coach seventy six

1159
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 2: million dollars to go away and they brought in the

1160
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: number one recruited class two years ago, spend thirty million dollars.

1161
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 2: They went five and seven and they're in there just

1162
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: a regular bowl game. They haven't even won the South

1163
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: West the SEC West. So this is a highly charged subject.

1164
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: And as far as the midnight hours here to stay.

1165
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: Give our producer Shake credit for coming up the idea

1166
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: coming up. I want to hear from shan Wan, to

1167
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 2: hear from Kevin Figures. We got to get their thoughts

1168
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: on the Nile and the portal phenomenon. But first let's

1169
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: go to our gout Kevin Figures with the latest.

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01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 10: All right, we'll start with some injury excuse me, Bernie,

1171
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 10: injury news out of the NFL. Sectans quarterback c J.

1172
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 10: Straut will miss his second consecutive game with a concussion.

1173
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 10: His teammate defensive end Will Anderson will also miss the

1174
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 10: game against Cleveland with an ankle injury. Jaguars quarterback Trevor

1175
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 10: Lawrence did practice on Friday, but still has not clear

1176
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 10: concussion protocol. He is listed as questionable. Gino Smith of

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01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 10: the Seahawks is off of the injury report and will

1178
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 10: return to the lineup. He missed the last two games

1179
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 10: as they grow on injury. Colt's receiver Michael Pittman Junior

1180
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 10: clear concussion protocol but is questionable to play this weekend

1181
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 10: with a shoulder ailment. In the NBA Friday Night, Steph

1182
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 10: Curry scored thirty points, leading the Warriors to an easy

1183
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 10: win over Washington to Montas Sabona's twenty eight points, eleven

1184
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 10: boards and eleven assists. For Sacramento, they defeated Phoenix one

1185
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 10: twenty to one oh five, who had victories for Denver, Houston,

1186
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 10: and Philadelphia. The lone college football game of the night

1187
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 10: saw Georgia Tech overcome a fourteen nothing deficit to beat

1188
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 10: UCF and their bowl game thirty to seventeen.

1189
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 3: Back to Bernie Freddo.

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01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: Kevin let's keep it right here. I'm sure you've got

1191
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: some thoughts on both the NIL and the transfer portal.

1192
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there's so many layers to this.

1193
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 10: One NIL was, you know, the spirit of it was

1195
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 10: for players to be paid based on their name, image,

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01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 10: and likeness, where you know, you can get a car dealership,

1197
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 10: a local auto shop, whatever you want to call it.

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01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 10: And what it's turned into is what college football has

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01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 10: tried to protect against for all these years and has

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01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 10: paid for play. And that's exactly what it's kind of

1201
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 10: turned into. At this point in time. We were talking

1202
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 10: about players turning down scholarship from one one school and

1203
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 10: opting to go to another simply because their collective can

1204
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 10: offer more money. We'll offer you the money up front

1205
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 10: and we'll figure out how you're going to get that

1206
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 10: money and what it's all surrounding later. And that's exactly

1207
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 10: what people wanted to protect against. And you know, going

1208
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 10: back to what the previous caller was talking about or

1209
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 10: one of the previous callers, you know what, this is

1210
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 10: probably gonna end up being burnie in the next five years,

1211
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 10: six years, some sort of collective bargaining agreement, and this

1212
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 10: is going to turn into like a semi pro situation,

1213
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 10: because ultimately, you cannot continue to classify these guys as

1214
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 10: amateurs when on the back on their shoulders, their backs,

1215
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 10: they're hard, hard working, blood, sweat and tears. These institutions,

1216
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 10: TV networks, whatever you want to call it, are making

1217
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 10: billions of dollars and they aren't, you know, And so yes,

1218
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 10: it's the top of the food chain. Now is your

1219
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 10: top quarterbacks, your running backs or top recruits are getting

1220
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 10: NIL deals. I think we're going to see a model

1221
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 10: coming up here pretty soon when that is, I don't know,

1222
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 10: four years, five years, six years, where these are things

1223
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 10: are going to be collectively bargained and at a certain

1224
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 10: point the players are actually going to get some of

1225
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 10: their money, not only from NIL, but from television revenue.

1226
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 3: I do think that that's on the horizon.

1227
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: You might very well be right, And I think you

1228
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: nailed it, Kevin, that the ideology initially for NIL was

1229
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 2: that you could you could market and monetize your name

1230
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: and likeness. Stop off at the car dealership, kiss baby,

1231
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: shake hands. You're the local quarterback for the university. Everybody

1232
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: knows you, nobody likes you. You don't make yourself an

1233
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: extra grand or two a weekend. And that's not bad,

1234
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: that's not chump change. But it's growing into something far

1235
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 2: beyond that that you just characterize. She's basically taking calls.

1236
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 2: Let's go back out to the phone lines. Andrew from

1237
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: Bakersfield joins us. Andrew your thoughts on this matter.

1238
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 10: Okay, so the last caller said the answer was free market.

1239
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: Trade, right, well, free market capitalism right. Let the market

1240
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: to side, go ahead.

1241
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 6: Okay, that was the glory of college sports that they

1242
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 6: weren't They didn't have to.

1243
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 5: Live up to of capitalism.

1244
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.

1245
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I do. I listen. I was a college athlete.

1246
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: I understand there was a purity, there was, you know,

1247
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: an almost ideological aspect that's long gone. But continue your point.

1248
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 6: Well, and an education it costs money, you know what

1249
01:06:59,320 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 6: I mean?

1250
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 2: I agree?

1251
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1252
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: I only had a half scholarship in baseball. I thought

1253
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: it was the coolest thing ever. And so you know,

1254
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 2: we are. Look, I'm so sick of the term. Get

1255
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 2: off my long guy, it's crap. All right. We try

1256
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: to have thoughtful dialogue in this country. Sometimes it's possible,

1257
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: sometimes it's not. But you are not You are dancing

1258
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 2: around what I think is a bygone era. But it's

1259
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: not the worst thing in the world. Go ahead, you

1260
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: got the last word. Do you anything else on this?

1261
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 11: I don't think so.

1262
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: All right, good, good stuff. I appreciate your point. There

1263
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 2: was a point where college was that transition between your

1264
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: youthful life and getting ready to head into the world,

1265
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 2: real world. The ideological purpose behind college was to prepare

1266
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: you for real life. And I'm not so sure that's

1267
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: the worst thing in the world. What if the Fab

1268
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: five had gotten a bunch of nil money. Maybe these

1269
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 2: guys are one under the NBA. A lot of them

1270
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: had great careers. All right, there's a there's a double

1271
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: edged sword, and I want to back. I want to

1272
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: piggyback on Kevin's point here. I just talked about what

1273
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: happened with Ray Dennison, who played for Fort Lewis A

1274
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: and M in Colorado in nineteen fifty five. He died

1275
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: on the field. His wife sued was about to collect

1276
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 2: death benefits under the Workmen's Compensation Act, but Fort Lewis

1277
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: College fought the case all the way to the Supreme

1278
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 2: Court and won because they said Dennison did not qualify

1279
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 2: for death benefits. Fort Lewis is not in the football business.

1280
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: Football players are not college employees. They are student athletes

1281
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: student athletes. Huh. When you break down that label student athlete,

1282
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: it's vague. It's because that's exactly what why the NCAA

1283
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 2: used the term in the first legal defense as to

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01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 2: why college athletes shouldn't be paid. But to Kevin's point,

1285
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 2: now we've got a double edged label because the truth

1286
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: of the matter is the NCAA has been a money

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01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 2: making machine for a hell of a long time. Their

1288
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: main revenue generators are still designated as amateurs, and the

1289
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 2: term student athlete has been sort of a crutch for

1290
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 2: athletes for a long time. Let's not bsrselves here. College

1291
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 2: the athletic departments have been reeling in money for decades,

1292
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: not only from revenue but from boosters. They've got training

1293
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: facilities who look like Ritz Carlton hotels. Some of the

1294
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: training facilities and college campuses are equal to or better

1295
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: than professional sports teams. So it's pure hypocrisy on the

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01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 2: NCAA's part. You can demand a strict practice schedule, you've

1297
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 2: got high end facilities, coaches making millions of dollars, but

1298
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,560
Speaker 2: you borrow athletes for functioning primarily as students and the

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01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 2: labor in the time they're expected to vote toward their

1300
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: athletic endeavors. It's a higher level of competition than it

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: is amateurism. What happens next, Our athlete's going to try

1302
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: to unionize. Are they going to try to collectively bargain

1303
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 2: ask for medical coverage? This is going to be a

1304
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: very slippery slope and they better be careful if they

1305
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: don't know what they're getting into. Remember, you're in and

1306
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 2: out of college in three or four years. You're moving

1307
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: on with your life. But the truth of the matter

1308
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: is the hypocrisy with respect to the money making machine

1309
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: college football, and to a degree, college basketball is hasn't

1310
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: fooled anybody. We'll keep the phone lines open until one

1311
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 2: am Pacific eight seven, seven, nine to nine one Fox

1312
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: been coming back. I want to hear from as a

1313
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: matter of fact, share are you available right now?

1314
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 12: Hey?

1315
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 17: Yeah, I want to hear what you gotta say? So, yeah,

1316
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 17: I mean, I had a lot of friends. I just

1317
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 17: graduated from college last year, so I had a lot

1318
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 17: of friends going through this. I had a lot of

1319
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 17: friends on our athletes and because a lot of the COVID,

1320
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 17: the COVID deals happen, and like everything was going on

1321
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 17: with the rule changes and everything, this was something that

1322
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 17: was really particularly talked about or.

1323
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: Spoken about a lot.

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01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 17: When they would come back or a lot of them

1325
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 17: wouldn't come back, they would have practice, what they would

1326
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 17: FaceTime me, they'd be talking about it, especially because NIL

1327
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 17: was on the brink of happening, and a lot of

1328
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 17: them were excited for it to happen. Obvious and from

1329
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 17: like an athlete perspective, this is something that's great. From

1330
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 17: a fan perspective, I don't see an issue with this

1331
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 17: at all. From a business perspective, I guess I could

1332
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 17: see an issue with this, but I think it's gonna

1333
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 17: be good for the sport. I think it's gonna be

1334
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 17: good for the player. It's gonna keep players happy, and

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01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 17: I honestly I'm happy.

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01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: That it's happening.

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 17: Like, I don't see an issue with it at all.

1338
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 17: And I mean, ASU is looking good, so level a

1339
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 17: bunch of people ready to go. Dela Shaw's doing great,

1340
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 17: so I'm happy.

1341
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: I don't disagree. But it's the old joke about it's

1342
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 2: all fun and games, so someone loses an eye I

1343
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: know you're a bigger as in a state guy. So

1344
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 2: let's say they start to light it up next year

1345
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: and they go to a bull game and all of

1346
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 2: a sudden, your star quarterback transfers to Alabama because you

1347
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: got more money. How will you feel about it? Then?

1348
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 17: You see, I'm happy now, so I can't be upset then,

1349
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 17: and hopefully I'm able to see if that does well.

1350
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 17: It did happen already kind of you know what I mean? Well, Jaydan, Daniel, Yeah,

1351
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 17: Jayden and Daniel went and went a high.

1352
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: So I mean, do you understand.

1353
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 17: I completely understand.

1354
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm cool with that.

1355
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 17: I guess like, if anything, it shouldn't happen to us

1356
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 17: anymore because we're gonna be we're gonna be up there,

1357
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 17: su let's go come on.

1358
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 2: No, it's all good. And I thought there was some good,

1359
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 2: uh thoughtful commentary to night by the callers and ciche

1360
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 2: you're getting your flowers, man, it was your idea. You

1361
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: wanted to create this midnight uh opportunity for for our

1362
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: for our listeners to weigh in, and we're gonna do

1363
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: it and we'll have a nice open that Ricky Herrera

1364
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: and Bob are putting together after the first of the year.

1365
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: We'll break it out on Friday, January fifth. But this

1366
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: is gonna be a thing, and I don't know, maybe

1367
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: k you'll get creative. We'll figure out some kind of

1368
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: most I don't want to say most viable caller. I

1369
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 2: don't know how you do that, but most interesting caller

1370
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: or something like that. That's that's a that's an acronism

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01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: for Mike m I see most interesting caller. Maybe we

1372
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: do something like that. But this is here to stay.

1373
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna do this and we're gonna keep

1374
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 2: with it. Coming up is Jim Harbaugh possibly coaching his

1375
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 2: final game at Michigan a week from Monday. Well, if

1376
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: they beat Alabama, he wouldn't bet. But I don't think

1377
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: they're beating Alabama. But let's break it down. I'm very

1378
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 2: well connected in that part of the country, and I

1379
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: will tell you this is a highly charged subject and

1380
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Speaker 2: there is more to it than meets the eye, and

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right

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01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: back on the Bernie Faddle Show. Come to you live

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01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: from the Las Vegas five Sports Radio studios. Tyrack dot

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1393
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: Could Jim Harball be coaching his last game at Michigan

1394
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: a week from Monday on New Year's Day against Alabama. Well,

1395
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 2: let's break this down. One of the things that's been

1396
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: vastly underreported in the last ten years is that I

1397
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: don't think Jim Harball ever got over losing the Super

1398
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 2: Bowl to his brother. He has unfinished business. He's fifty

1399
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 2: nine years old, turned sixty next year, and I think

1400
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: if you talk to insiders that cover Michigan on a

1401
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: national basis, they're in agreement. I'll take my insiders over there.

1402
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: I lived there seventeen years and worked in that market,

1403
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 2: but we're in agreement. That we believe there's a much

1404
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: better chance that Jim Harball is in the NFL next year.

1405
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: Then he's back at Michigan next year. You know, he's

1406
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: been flirting with the NFL in previous seasons, but the

1407
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: planets have never really Two years ago, in twenty twenty two,

1408
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 2: after the twenty twenty one season in which he had

1409
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 2: just gotten his pay cut in half by Ward Manuel,

1410
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: Harball was angry. He went to Minnesota on National recruiting Day.

1411
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 2: He wanted that Vikings job. As I was told Wolf's

1412
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 2: working to hire him. He was a courtesy interview because

1413
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 2: thanks to Queesyandulfo Mensa, who he'd worked with with the

1414
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, Wolf's had already been up to mind

1415
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: on Kevin O'Connell. It was a courtesy interview Harball. I

1416
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 2: think was surprised Harball would have gone to the NFL.

1417
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: Then I absolutely believe it. Last year with a great

1418
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 2: team he had coming back and having won back to

1419
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: back Big Ten championships and gone to the playoffs and

1420
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: back to back years. He's got forty four seniors this year,

1421
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 2: he said, he's got twenty NFL players. This is his

1422
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: best chance ever to win a national championship now or never,

1423
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 2: and I think the timing is right now out. It's

1424
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: my understanding that Denver Broncos we're very interested in Jim

1425
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 2: Harball last January before they hired Sean Payton, Harball turned

1426
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: them down. So when Harball wanted to go, the Vikings

1427
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: weren't interested. When he wasn't ready, the Broncos were interested.

1428
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 2: This year. The planeter I believe aligning, and you've heard,

1429
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: and it's true. Harball has a five year, eleven million

1430
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: dollars per year contract extension on his desk, and one

1431
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: of the clauses is that he agrees not to flirt

1432
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: with the NFL anymore. He's not going to agree to that.

1433
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, if you look at Jim

1434
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: Harball's buyout, He's buy out this year is two point

1435
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 2: two million. It's nothing. Jimbo Fisher's was seventy six million.

1436
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 2: You know. The guy to Oregon was eight or nine million.

1437
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: Oregon State checked that Jonathan Smith is going to Michigan State.

1438
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: There are other issues at play here. The twenty twenty

1439
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: three season began with Harvall. He had a self and

1440
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: posed three game suspension and then he got two more

1441
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 2: games or three more games games, and so he's looking

1442
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: to probably a lengthy suspension next year. The cheeseburger gate

1443
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: fiasco is now Michigan has been warned of their notice

1444
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 2: of allegations, so they have ninety days to officially respond.

1445
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: This is going to get real in the spring, and

1446
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 2: there are other NCAA investigations hanging over him. Harbaugh was

1447
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: also a very successful NFL head coach. He's not a

1448
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 2: guy like a lot of college guys who've gone to

1449
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 2: the NFL and failed. Urban Meyer fell on his face.

1450
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 2: I was wrong about that. Harball proved he can coach

1451
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Charters are attractive. Do I think he'd

1452
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 2: go to the Bears. No, because Kevin Warren, the president

1453
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: of the Bears, is former commissioner of the Big Ten.

1454
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 2: Harbor and him don't get along, simple as that. But

1455
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is there will be a

1456
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: market forum. The timing is right. So the question is

1457
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: will Harball be coaching his final game? We don't know,

1458
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: I will say, and I'm sticking to this, not one

1459
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent. I think it's a seventy percent possibility that

1460
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: Harbaugh is in NFL next year, and that could increase

1461
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 2: depending on what the Chargers are willing to pay. They

1462
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 2: dangle a fifteen million dollars five year contract in front

1463
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: of Harball. Gas up the Impala, Baby. We're heading out west,

1464
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 2: and I think Harball would finally get to Chase's dream

1465
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: of winning a Super Bowl, which I think he believes

1466
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 2: is the biggest prize of all. Coming up, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a little fun. The Lakers took some heat because

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Speaker 2: they hung a banner. I'm actually going to give them

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Speaker 2: a hall pass. I'm going to bring in the crew

1470
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Speaker 2: as well. Keep it locked. You listen to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, that's right, you

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Speaker 2: James era. Each one of these eras managed to win championships.

1487
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 2: In these eras, I think made the Lakers the prestigious franchise.

1488
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 2: They are an iconic franchise, and I give Boston their props,

1489
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 2: but the vast majority of the championships they won were

1490
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: done you know, back like when Roosevelt was president. Again

1491
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: the Celtics. I'll give them their profits, but I still

1492
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: the Lakers, I think are the most prestigious franchise in

1493
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 2: the history of the National Basketball Association. And be that

1494
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 2: as a may haters gonna hate. And recently the decision

1495
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: by the Los Angeles Lakers to hang their in season

1496
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 2: tournament championship banner, well, let's come under some criticism. Okay,

1497
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: let's break this down fairly and honestly I don't think

1498
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: the Lakers really wanted to do it. Maybe Lebron did,

1499
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: but even what, it doesn't matter. I don't care what

1500
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 2: Lebron did want it. I don't think the Lakers really

1501
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: wanted to and I think it was even reported by

1502
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 2: Shams Tirannia that the Lakers would be raising a banner. Yes,

1503
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 2: they would be doing it now. It was also reported

1504
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: though that they weren't planning on raising any banners for

1505
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 2: winning the event, but they got pressure from the league,

1506
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 2: so then they decided to do so now. They also

1507
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: mentioned before it was sung it would be a single

1508
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 2: banner that would be hunting the rafters, and if the

1509
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 2: team were to win, say the nd season tournament next

1510
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: year of the year after, rather than hanging another banner,

1511
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: they would just add future years to it, as if

1512
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: the team, you know, to win additional banners, it would

1513
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: be all on the same additional banner would be what

1514
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 2: you would call a single forever banner. They put it

1515
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 2: up December eighteenth, and there's room for future dates should

1516
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 2: the franchise win additional in season tournament titles in the future.

1517
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: I don't think the Lakers had a choice. Haters gonna hate,

1518
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 2: but this is one time I'm really gonna I'm going

1519
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 2: to defend them, and I have a great respect for

1520
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers organization. One of my greatest enjoyments experiences in

1521
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 2: life was as an intern at the Forum for two years,

1522
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: right in the middle of Magic Johnson's He Sees I

1523
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 2: saw it All courtside, had full access everywhere to the Forum, club,

1524
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: you name it, saw it all. That was an amazing

1525
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: period in the Lakers history showtime, and again in the

1526
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: forty years to follow they won multiple championships. So that

1527
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 2: was the first year doctor Jerry Buss on the team,

1528
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 2: so it was a special place to be at the Forum.

1529
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: So what I think they did was reach a happy medium.

1530
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,560
Speaker 2: They feel it's the best way to go about it.

1531
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: Since it's technically not a full championship banner. It's a

1532
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: way for the franchise they recognize the achievement of the

1533
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 2: players without making too much of the tournament win. All right,

1534
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: but this is what I think the league wanted. They're

1535
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 2: serious about growing this tournament and the Lakers are the

1536
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: inaugural winner, and you know the Lakers, I think you

1537
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 2: know if you go to Staples, they don't have the

1538
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 2: only banners they had prior to that were NBA championship banners,

1539
01:22:56,160 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 2: but this is technically a title, all right. And in

1540
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 2: the end, the cooler heads prevailed. And I think you

1541
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: have to be fair and say that making the decision

1542
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 2: to do it was a good one because this is

1543
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 2: what the league wanted. Lakers won undefeated through their tournament run.

1544
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 2: They took down the Indiana paces here in Vegas, and

1545
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 2: the first edition of the NCAA tournament was a complete success.

1546
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 2: Viewership was up, everything was up, the tendants was up.

1547
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 2: The NBA. I think they got what they wanted. They

1548
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 2: got their buzz in November December, when the NBA is

1549
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: an afterthought until Christmas Day. Typically the league they wanted

1550
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: the players and the teams to take it seriously, and

1551
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 2: they did. Almost every player said the games felt they

1552
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: had played a game that, you know, was very similar

1553
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: to playoff intensity. The stakes were enough to cause him

1554
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: to do that bragging rights five hundred thousand per man

1555
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: And when the group stage was over, the knockout rounds

1556
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: took place. Clearly it looked like the playoffs. It did.

1557
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 2: It was like a series of Game sevens, which they

1558
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 2: all were. It was one and done. You had to

1559
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 2: stay focused. The Lakers were very motivaive, very motivated to

1560
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: win the whole thing, and you can see that from

1561
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: the beginning, no doubt about it. Now maybe they're paying

1562
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: the price for it, which may be a conversation for

1563
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 2: another day. So but interestingly enough, as big or as

1564
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 2: little as this may be for some people, and if

1565
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 2: you care to way and tweet at me at Bernie Frattle,

1566
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: I'll reach your tweet on the air. If it's a

1567
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: good one. They'll forever be known as the team that

1568
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: won the first ever in season tournament. You're Los Angeles Lakers.

1569
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: There'll be a no commodity the Los Angeles Lakers, your

1570
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 2: first ever in season tournament winner. And the NBA isn't

1571
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 2: getting rid of this tournament anytime soon. So the first

1572
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: one to minute to win it is going to need something,

1573
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: certainly to Adam Silver. This is an iconic franchise. Is

1574
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 2: this their biggest achievement? No, by not by a long shot.

1575
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 2: But does it deserve its own place among the other banners.

1576
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 2: You can argue it all you want, you can criticize

1577
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 2: it all you want, but two things I know for sure.

1578
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 2: The Lakers were the first team to come on on

1579
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: top of the n season tournament, and this is what

1580
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: the league in the NBA wanted, So I got to

1581
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 2: give him a hall pass for doing them. Springing the crew, Kevin,

1582
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 2: your thoughts don't hold back when you heard the Lakers

1583
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,560
Speaker 2: were going to succumb and hang that banner. What was

1584
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 2: your reaction, Well.

1585
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 3: My initial thought that it was, you know, even going

1586
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 3: into the tournament.

1587
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 10: You know, we would debate about this on local radio

1588
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 10: that I work on whether or not whoever wins the championship. Shit,

1589
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,719
Speaker 10: they raised a banner, and we said it was pretty

1590
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 10: ridiculous that you would do such a thing. Then you

1591
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 10: come to learn after the Lakers win it, and there

1592
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 10: was multiple reporting. Chris Haynes reported this, Dan Wake does

1593
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 10: a great job covering the Lakers vil A, La Times.

1594
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 10: My friend over there reported this as well, that basically

1595
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 10: it was at the urging of the NBA that the Lakers,

1596
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 10: especially as you mentioned them being the base, the iconic franchise,

1597
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 10: the marquee franchise in the NBA, it was a tantamount

1598
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 10: that they tried to make it at least somewhat of

1599
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 10: a big deal of the fact that they won the

1600
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 10: inaugural inn season tournament and put up some sort of

1601
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 10: banner or some sort of display to commemorate that, and

1602
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 10: so they reached a happy medium that the Lakers raised

1603
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 10: one singular banner that they can add additional years to

1604
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 10: in the future. So ultimately, I don't necessarily have a

1605
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,560
Speaker 10: problem with it, because I understand that the NBA is

1606
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 10: trying to make somewhat of a big deal out of this,

1607
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 10: and if the Lakers simply would have won it, gotten

1608
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 10: their trophy and pistashed it in the back of the

1609
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 10: arena where nobody could see it, then it kind of

1610
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 10: diminishes it a little bit. So I after seeing the

1611
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 10: banner and knowing that they had conversations between the Lakers

1612
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 10: and the league, it doesn't necessarily bother me as much,

1613
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 10: especially since there's a distinctive difference between the look of

1614
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 10: that banner and the look of the championship banners, which

1615
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 10: I know was a fear among fans initially going into it.

1616
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. You mentioned doing the local lading.

1617
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: Was it five seventy Yes, Okay, so that's a blowtorch

1618
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, in Greater Los Angeles area, and it's

1619
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: got a hell of a signal. I drive in from

1620
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 2: Vegas and I could pick it up. Oh yeah, So

1621
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 2: here's the reason I bring that up. What was the

1622
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: consensus among stil Cow fans? Did they want the banner

1623
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: up or did they think it was cheesy? Even know,

1624
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: if you cut it down the middle of what was

1625
01:26:58,320 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: a percentage.

1626
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 10: I will say seventy percent of the fans thinks it's

1627
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 10: kind of cheesy. And I think that it's sort of

1628
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:05,440
Speaker 10: beneath the Lakers.

1629
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: To do such a thing. Is it like one of

1630
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: those meat the fokkers?

1631
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, Yeah, But you do what's interesting.

1632
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 2: You do see that this is really what the league wanted.

1633
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: So I really kind of have to you know, I've

1634
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 2: criticized the Lakers, I've criticized the bron but I'm not

1635
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 2: going to do it this time because I think they're

1636
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 2: in sync with what the nation the NBA wanted, Because

1637
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 2: I think the tournament was a success. We broke it

1638
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: down last week.

1639
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it absolutely was a success. It accomplished what they wanted.

1640
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 10: TV ratings for games during that same day and time

1641
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 10: the previous season were up immensely. There was immense interest

1642
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 10: in the n season tournament based on the schedule from

1643
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 10: the previous year, and I think they're they're only this

1644
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 10: is only going to get bigger and better as time

1645
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 10: and time goes on.

1646
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 3: So they accomplished what they wanted.

1647
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 10: They want the Lakers, they want the teams around the

1648
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 10: league to at least seem as if this is somewhat

1649
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 10: of a big deal. It's not the NBA Finals. But

1650
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 10: you can't just say that it's that it's nothing either,

1651
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 10: So I think this is sort of a happy medium.

1652
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 10: And the Lakers are trying to play good, you know,

1653
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 10: play well with the rest of the league and play

1654
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 10: well with the NBA and say, you know what, will

1655
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 10: acknowledge the fact that we won the tournament. We'll hang

1656
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 10: a banner and have the ability to add additional years

1657
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 10: to it in the subsequent seasons if we win it again.

1658
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 10: So after it's all played out, Bernie, I initially did

1659
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 10: not like the idea of having the banner.

1660
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 3: Now I've warmed over. It's totally fine with me.

1661
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 2: Is that pretty much the consenius Now that the dust

1662
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: has settled, Even though seventy percent of the people thought

1663
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: it was cheesy, they're accepting of it now.

1664
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think they're kind of over it now now

1665
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 10: They're just concerned that the Lakers got too much of

1666
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 10: an emotional high out.

1667
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 3: Of winning the tournament, and they've been paying playing like

1668
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 3: crap ever since.

1669
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 2: That's the thing, man, the Lebron's ankle. We're gonna talk

1670
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: about this with Mark Madinaz Saturday night. You know, did

1671
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: they empty the tank a little too much?

1672
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 3: That's the thoughts so far.

1673
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 10: And look that Lebron James admitted to that the other

1674
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 10: night in Anthony Davis alluded to it last night as well,

1675
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 10: so we'll see.

1676
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 3: They got a big one coming up against Okacee on Saturday.

1677
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Kevin Shay, let's get your thoughts

1678
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 2: on this. I'm gonna give the Lakers a hall pass.

1679
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 2: I think they acquiesced to what the NBA wanted to

1680
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 2: hang this banner. This is a tournament that's here to stay.

1681
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 2: They believe it with success blah blah blah, and let's

1682
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: go from there. Yeah.

1683
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 17: I mean so, as a resident Laker fan, I was,

1684
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 17: I mean, I was happy with seventeen and a half

1685
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 17: that's what I like to call it. Seventeen and a

1686
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 17: half banners. That's more than the Celtics now. And I

1687
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 17: mean I'm happy about it, I don't really care. But

1688
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 17: the biggest thing with me was is I feel like

1689
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 17: most of the people that were hating on it were

1690
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 17: just the people that I'd always like heard hating on

1691
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 17: the Lakers or hating on Lebron. I mean, I felt

1692
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 17: very indifferent about it, to be honest. It was, Oh,

1693
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 17: we're putting up a banner, it's good for the NBA,

1694
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 17: good for the Lakers. It doesn't really matter. And I

1695
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 17: feel like, yeah, seventy percent of Laker fans again, yeah,

1696
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 17: they they didn't care for it. It's not that they

1697
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 17: disliked it. I think it was more of just like, oh, like, okay,

1698
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 17: that's fine, Sure doesn't matter. It's not the end of

1699
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 17: the world. But it's also not the best thing in

1700
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 17: the world. So the people that are coming out and

1701
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 17: saying or voicing their displeasure with it are again and

1702
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 17: like you said, they're just hating their haters.

1703
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 2: That's what I like to call them.

1704
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 17: And I've called a lot of people here in the

1705
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 17: past couple of weeks haters because they have voiced their

1706
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 17: displeasure with it, and most of them voice their displeasure

1707
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 17: with Lebron as well. So I mean, it's it just

1708
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 17: seems like those two go hand in hand. I'm not

1709
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 17: I'm not trying to say it's that's why. But I

1710
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 17: was fine with it. Again, I was very indifferent with it.

1711
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 17: I'm fine seventeen and a half.

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01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 5: Why not.

1713
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 2: We're having a good time. Yeah, I mean, I think

1714
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 2: it's a rationalization at the end of the day. But

1715
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 2: I know I'm repeating myself to the point of stuttering.

1716
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 2: But let's fake it. Let's face it. This is what

1717
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 2: the league wanted. It would serve no fruitful purpose for

1718
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 2: the Lakers to defy the league. Now, to Kevin's point,

1719
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 2: you know, I'm in agreement. It's just gonna become a

1720
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: pyrrhic victory because and if you're gonna play Lebron and

1721
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis every other night, and what's this team gonna

1722
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 2: look like by April when you got a lot of

1723
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 2: tread on the off the tear, and a lot of

1724
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: mileage in on this team. I never once thought the

1725
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 2: Lakers were gonna win a chainampionship. But if you can

1726
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 2: somehow draw NEPSUS in a correlation that perhaps winning the

1727
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: nd season tournament might have cost the Lakers a real

1728
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 2: shot at winning an NBA Championship. We've got a discussion

1729
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 2: to have and I don't think that's off the table

1730
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 2: just yet. Speaking of someone who made us splash this week, well,

1731
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 2: this dude returned from his twenty five game suspension and man,

1732
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 2: what a return it was. We'll talk about it, but

1733
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 2: he's playing for a team that better turn it around quickly.

1734
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 2: You better get busy living or get busy dying. I'm

1735
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle. We're company live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: tirect dot com Studious. Keep it locked listening to the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back

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Speaker 2: on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to

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Speaker 2: live from the tirect dot com studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: yourself at discover dot com. Slash match Jah Morant returned

1745
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 2: from his twenty five game suspension Wednesday night, and what

1746
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 2: a return it was.

1747
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 12: Now.

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01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 2: As you recall, Jamorant was suspended in June after he

1749
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 2: was seen brandishing the gun in an Instagram live video

1750
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 2: for a second time. He'd previously been suspended eight games

1751
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 2: in March after almost an identical incident in which he

1752
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 2: also flashed a gun on a social platform. Now those incidents,

1753
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 2: they came after multiple other reports of very concerning behavior,

1754
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 2: including allegations that he threatened to security guard at a mall.

1755
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Wonder if that was Paul Blart mallcop. That's a story

1756
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 2: for a different day. Allegedly punched a seventeen year old

1757
01:32:55,479 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 2: after dispute during a pickup basketball game, and again alleged

1758
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 2: to leave. Morant went into his house after the dispute

1759
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: with a teenager, and Regurn returned with a gun in

1760
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 2: his waistband. And of course him and his cronies well,

1761
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 2: they were also involved supposedly in a confrontation with some

1762
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 2: members of the Pacers in which at least one Indiana

1763
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 2: employee believes someone in a guar that Moran was riding

1764
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 2: in pointing a gun at them. So he had some

1765
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 2: junk in his trunk there. But he's back. Hopefully he's

1766
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: learned his lesson. We shall see. People don't always escape

1767
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 2: their nature. But let's also be fair John Muran' is

1768
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,560
Speaker 2: one of the most electrifying players in the NBA, and

1769
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 2: his development quickly into an All Star had helped, at

1770
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 2: least in the past, turned the Grizzlies into a potential

1771
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 2: Western Conference contender, but thanks to his immaturity off the court,

1772
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 2: it's completely jeopardized his career and frankly, the near term

1773
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 2: Memphis future. Now, the league issued what they considered to

1774
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 2: be a lengthy suspension, one of the longest. Didn't be

1775
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 2: a history. I don't think it was enough, but I

1776
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 2: could be wrong. We will see if it in fact

1777
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 2: sent a message to Jahn Morant to get his act together.

1778
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,759
Speaker 2: It remains to be seen whether or not John Morant

1779
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 2: has received that message. But for one night. The other night,

1780
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 2: Moran returned for the Grizzies in their game against the

1781
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 2: against the Pelicans after serving his twenty five game ban,

1782
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 2: the dude balled out. Memphis won thirteen and Morent was

1783
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 2: all over the place. He had thirty four points twelve

1784
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 2: to twenty four, shooting, eight assists, six rebounds, and to

1785
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 2: put the icing on top of the cake, whether Morant

1786
01:34:56,280 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 2: do it's the game winning layup this time, I'm expired

1787
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 2: to snap the Grizzlies five game losing streak. It was

1788
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 2: a very quick reminder of truly how great Brant can be,

1789
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 2: what an exceptional talent he is, and how important he

1790
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 2: is to his team's success, because, let's face it, the

1791
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 2: Grizzlies they're going nowhere fast. Brant after the game, and

1792
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 2: he had a non court interview, said all the right

1793
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 2: things is I've been putting in the work. Man, I

1794
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 2: would put in the work. I ain't play a game

1795
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 2: in eight months. I'm quoting him, but had a lot

1796
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 2: of time, you know, to learn myself. A lot of

1797
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 2: hard days I went through it. This is the part

1798
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't like. You brought it on yourself. Do not

1799
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 2: play the freaking victim. You're not a victim. You didn't

1800
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: learn your lesson in March, you did it again in June.

1801
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 2: So don't give us. Don't try to play the violin

1802
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 2: and give me the Babe of the Woods routine. You

1803
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 2: didn't get to play a game in eight months, had

1804
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: a lot of time to learn my So what did

1805
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 2: you learn? Maybe you go down that road tell us.

1806
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 2: Had a lot of hard days when I went through it.

1807
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 2: That was the reason I thought the commissioner is suspending

1808
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 2: it for the year. That would have hurt. If he

1809
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 2: had to watch a whole year his team play and

1810
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 2: he can't do the thing he loves, play basketball, that

1811
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 2: would have been the biggest punishment ever. Then he said,

1812
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 2: but you know, basketball is my life. What I love

1813
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 2: is Therapeuta for me, I'm just excited to be back.

1814
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 2: But on a good note, Brant picking up where he

1815
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 2: left off is a very positive sign for the Grizzlies.

1816
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 2: Real quickly, Kevin, you got any thoughts on it is

1817
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 2: he learned his lesson.

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01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 10: I mean, it's hard to say, you hope, So at

1819
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 10: this point in time, I don't how much bigger of

1820
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 10: a wake up call you can possibly get than missing

1821
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 10: a quarter of the season. So look, it's great that

1822
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 10: he came back and he had the impact that he

1823
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 10: did almost immediately with a huge game in the game winner.

1824
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 3: So that's a really difficult question to ask.

1825
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 2: Bernie.

1826
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 10: I can only hope because he's one of the great

1827
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 10: young talents in this league, and obviously you look how

1828
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 10: much the Memphis struggled early in the season without him

1829
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 10: in the lineup. So I hope for his sake and

1830
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 10: then selfishly for the sake of us as basketball fans,

1831
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:15,560
Speaker 10: so we get to watch this great talent perform that

1832
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 10: he's learned his lesson and this sort of thing doesn't

1833
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 10: continue to plague him.

1834
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 2: I respect the hell out of your honesty and candor,

1835
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 2: and I mean that because you're speaking, you're speaking truth. Okay,

1836
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 2: we don't know now. We hope he does. He's good

1837
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 2: for the league and we want people to do well

1838
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 2: in life. Okay, he was given a gift by God

1839
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 2: and he's made the most of it. But he's also

1840
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,839
Speaker 2: you know what, do would I talk about my commentary

1841
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 2: last spring. Oftentimes a player will be granted gifts and

1842
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 2: their talent will take them to a place where their

1843
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 2: character can't keep them. It's not easy for players to

1844
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 2: escape their nature. I hope he doesn't drop his guard,

1845
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:54,719
Speaker 2: But would I better finger on it? No, I wouldn't.

1846
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 2: I I bet your I appreciate your candor. Shay, do

1847
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 2: you have any thoughts on this? John A?

1848
01:37:58,479 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 12: Right?

1849
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1850
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 2: I mean so.

1851
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 17: I mean I was listening to the Odd Couple and

1852
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 17: they were talking about this earlier this week when he

1853
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 17: was It was right before he had the big game,

1854
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 17: and they were basically saying, like, for his image to

1855
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 17: ever be fixed, he would need to do something big,

1856
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:18,560
Speaker 17: as in like win an MVP or win the championship.

1857
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 17: Obviously he can't win the MVP because of the new

1858
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 17: rule change this year. But I mean, he's young, he

1859
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 17: has a lot of years left and I think if

1860
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 17: he keeps doing him which he should be, I think

1861
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 17: he'll be good image wise. And then I mean for

1862
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 17: this year. I mean, who knows this year what's going

1863
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 17: to happen with the Grizzlies, But he has a lot

1864
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 17: of years left on him. I don't think we've even

1865
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 17: seen his roof or even his climax at all. So

1866
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 17: we'll see what happens, and I think he'll be good,

1867
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 17: but again, we really don't know good stuff.

1868
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 6: Guys.

1869
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 2: Coming up, we have Chris Perfet's World of Soccer. But

1870
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 2: first let's go back to our guy, Kevin Figures with

1871
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 2: the latest to Night's Action.

1872
01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, we'll go to a Friday Night's Action in

1873
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 10: the NBA with Golden State. They picked up their fourth

1874
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 10: win in a row. They defeated the Wizards one twenty

1875
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 10: nine to one eighteen Washington caught in the struggle five

1876
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,440
Speaker 10: and twenty three on the season for the Whiz Sacramento

1877
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 10: Steam World. Phoenix won twenty two p OH five, a

1878
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 10: triple double there for Demonts Sabonis, Tyler Hero thirty points

1879
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 10: for the Miami Heat they defeated. The Hawks won twenty

1880
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 10: two to one thirteen. Denver with the victory over Brooklyn

1881
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 10: for their third consecutive win. Philadelphia and Houston with victories

1882
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 10: as well. In college football news, Texas quarterback Malik Murphy

1883
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 10: is expected to transfer to Duke. The Lone Bowl game

1884
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,679
Speaker 10: on Friday night saw Georgia Tech overcome a fourteen point

1885
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 10: deficit in the first quarter to beat UCF thirty to seventeen.

1886
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 10: In college basketball, Kevin mccullor, junior scored thirty four points,

1887
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 10: leading second rate Kansas over Yale seventy five to sixty,

1888
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 10: Marquette Hammer Georgetown eighty one to fifty one.

1889
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 3: Liberty ranked twentieth in the country.

1890
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,600
Speaker 10: They're twelve and zero so far in eighty nine to

1891
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 10: seventy five victory over at Morgan State.

1892
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 3: Back to Bernie Freddo.

1893
01:39:56,680 --> 01:40:02,759
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, dere Kevin. Well, we are crowding

1894
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 2: into what will be twenty twenty four soon and a

1895
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,679
Speaker 2: few months down the road, yeah, we'll be talking about

1896
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 2: the Paris Olympics and soccer on the world stage. Whether

1897
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 2: the game's being played on the field, there's always news

1898
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 2: off the field, and sometimes it's frankly humorous, but it's

1899
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 2: always interesting. That's why we bring you this time. Every

1900
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 2: week we bring you on the Bernie Fratder Show, Chris

1901
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:27,640
Speaker 2: Purfett's World of Soccer.

1902
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 18: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

1903
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 13: Hi, I am.

1904
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

1905
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 8: Marry Christisperne and happy new year here from us at

1906
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 8: the World of Soccer. What a year it was to

1907
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 8: wrap up a interim year here, to wrap up the

1908
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 8: qualify for euro for Copa America, to set the stage

1909
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 8: here for a brand new year in twenty twenty four.

1910
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 8: They'll be full of so many surprises and so many things.

1911
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 8: And right before the year closed, we can go ahead

1912
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 8: and look at the defining chapter of Manchester City where

1913
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 8: yes they have seen better days in the Premier League standings,

1914
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 8: but at the same time they have also capped off

1915
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 8: a twenty twenty three season with a fifth trophy, claiming

1916
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 8: a four NIERL win over Fluminense in Judah for the

1917
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 8: club World Cup. This is a FIFA competition between all

1918
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:39,640
Speaker 8: the clubs in the world, mind you, and it's not

1919
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 8: exactly as high prestige as the World Cup itself, but

1920
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 8: it now means five trophies for Manchester City in twenty

1921
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 8: twenty three, of course, already finishing the treble between the

1922
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 8: Champions League, UEFA, the Premier League and the FA Cup

1923
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 8: at the League Cup better known as the Carabell Cup

1924
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 8: in some circles, and with the latest one, it is

1925
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 8: now five. Forget the trouble, it is a quintuple. It

1926
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 8: also means we're closing in on Boxing Day. What is

1927
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 8: Boxing Day? Well, you get to see a lot of

1928
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 8: English soccer on Boxing Day, but what is Boxing Day itself?

1929
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 8: The term comes from a tradition used to be in

1930
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 8: Britain for employers to give out Christmas boxes to their employees.

1931
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 8: I mean, obviously we continue this ourselves. Thank you to

1932
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 8: Scott Shapiro and Don Martin for the gift cards we

1933
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 8: all received here at the end of the year working

1934
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 8: at Fox Sports Radio in the back for US technical

1935
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 8: producers and producers. But Boxing Day is also a bank

1936
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 8: holiday in Britain, but we know better as a federal holiday,

1937
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 8: meaning that it's a day off, which means that it's

1938
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 8: time for plenty of Premier League action. The slate isn't

1939
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,759
Speaker 8: that great this year. Just looking at the Premier League,

1940
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 8: a lot of teams that are near the bottom of

1941
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 8: the relegation table are going to be playing. The English

1942
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 8: League Championship is far more interesting for some of the

1943
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 8: teams that we've playing. But keep your eyes glued to

1944
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 8: Manchester United and aston Villa. As aston Villa continues its

1945
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 8: client to try to reach the top of the Premier

1946
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 8: League table, it would be a remarkable, remarkable story. It's

1947
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 8: still an early season, but they are chasing Arsenal entering

1948
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 8: into the weekend and we'll see if they can pick

1949
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 8: up the points to overcome the Gunners. Manchester United, of course,

1950
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 8: the Red Devils trying to get any kind of points

1951
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 8: to stop their rock slide out of not just the

1952
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 8: top four of the Premier League, but maybe the top ten.

1953
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 8: At this point right now, they qualify for no European

1954
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 8: competition next year. If the Premier League ended today sitting

1955
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 8: at seventh not good. But the bigger story in the

1956
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 8: world of soccer today comes actually stateside as a row

1957
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:01,759
Speaker 8: has continued to develop between US Soccer and Major League Soccer,

1958
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 8: the difference being, of course, US Soccer is the national

1959
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:08,719
Speaker 8: federation that oversees the entire sport, and Major League Soccer,

1960
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 8: of course, being the pre eminent soccer league in this country,

1961
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:15,560
Speaker 8: playing at the highest level of competition, but unlike a

1962
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 8: lot of other countries, sitting apart from what we would

1963
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,839
Speaker 8: call the US pyramid system. Obviously no promotion, no relegation,

1964
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 8: but already an interesting dynamic between them and US Soccer

1965
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 8: that has caused friction over the years, and the friction

1966
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 8: has gotten even more as MLS informed US Soccer and

1967
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 8: the Party's last week that it was not be participating

1968
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 8: in the US Open Cup. They would still send their squads,

1969
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 8: but they would send developmental squads from MLS's minor league

1970
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 8: farm system. MLS next to go to the US Open Cup.

1971
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,680
Speaker 8: The US Open Cup, also known as Lamar Hunt US

1972
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 8: Open Cup, is this country's version of the FA Cup,

1973
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 8: the competition where all clubs across the United States can participate,

1974
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:09,600
Speaker 8: can get together, can square off against one another, and

1975
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 8: it's an open competition. Everyone's got a chance to win

1976
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 8: the Cup. It is a remarkable over one hundred year

1977
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:21,839
Speaker 8: history beginning in nineteen fourteen. It is the oldest competition

1978
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 8: for soccer here in this country and it has been

1979
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 8: always been host to over one hundred professional and amateur

1980
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 8: teams across the country. USL teams, which USL represents the

1981
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 8: second tier and on downward for the US Pyramid system,

1982
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:43,759
Speaker 8: have sometimes regularly beat MLS teams in Open Cup play. However,

1983
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 8: MLS has continued to dominate the later rounds of the

1984
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 8: Open Cup ever since the league was formalized and joined

1985
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 8: the Open Cup in nineteen ninety six. Regardless, it is

1986
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 8: a tournament where a lot of magical things can happen

1987
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 8: and has that feeling of the FA Cup of other

1988
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 8: competitions like say March Madness, where we just want to

1989
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 8: see the big upsets and we enjoy it and it

1990
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 8: means a lot to the spirit of the game.

1991
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 3: Well.

1992
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 8: As I said, MLS wanted to send their development leagues,

1993
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 8: they didn't want to send their first teams here. This week,

1994
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 8: the US Soccer has announced that MLS cannot remove its

1995
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 8: first teams from the Lamar Hunt US Open Cup and

1996
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 8: replace them with those developmental teams. They will, if they participate,

1997
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 8: have to participate with their first teams. This is set

1998
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 8: up for something of a showdown to happen between Major

1999
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:37,480
Speaker 8: League Soccer, which continues to really eschew the US soccer ecosystem,

2000
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,679
Speaker 8: which has been very valuable to stuff like the US

2001
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 8: men's national team, and tries to prove that they are

2002
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 8: more and more of an independent league than anything more

2003
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,839
Speaker 8: in their DNA, akin with something like say the NBA

2004
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 8: or the NFL, which is preposterous and ludacrius because it

2005
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 8: doesn't have that kind of stature. And it's preposterous and

2006
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 8: ludacris because as much as the MLS life to be

2007
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 8: Europhilic and epe the sensibilities of European leagues. Just look

2008
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 8: at any of those names of their clubs that just

2009
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,560
Speaker 8: say FC at the end and nothing else. This is

2010
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 8: not the time to go against your Europhilic sensibilities. Open

2011
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 8: cups are great. They are fan favorites. Fans love these things.

2012
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 8: The idea that you just want to like. It is

2013
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,560
Speaker 8: a commitment to the culture of soccer itself. It is

2014
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 8: a commitment to the spirit of soccer itself. To participate

2015
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 8: in open cups, to take on any challenger. It's part

2016
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 8: of the history of this sport. This Cup has been

2017
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 8: played since nineteen fourteen, and for MLS to say they're

2018
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 8: too big for it and they'd rather send their developmental

2019
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 8: league is ludicrous. It is a slap in the face

2020
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 8: to fans, to former players, to everyone else.

2021
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 3: And I hope to.

2022
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 8: God that this is shut down and MLS is told

2023
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 8: that they need to play, and MLS understands that this

2024
01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 8: is important. This is important to the landscape of United

2025
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 8: States soccer. And I'm sure there's out there some who

2026
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 8: will say, well, it's the big deal. They're a business,

2027
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:07,560
Speaker 8: They're allowed to make the decisions. They sure, no, they're not.

2028
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 8: This is the spirit of soccer. You aren't the big

2029
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 8: dog in this country. You're not even the fourth biggest

2030
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 8: dog in this country. You have a loyal amount of

2031
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 8: diehard fans and you have to do right by them.

2032
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 8: And how you do right by them is appealing to

2033
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 8: the spirit of the game. And the spirit of the

2034
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 8: game is having an open Cup competition. You don't get

2035
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 8: to flo out one season with ratings with Leonel Messi

2036
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 8: and decide your stars are too big to play against

2037
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 8: the Pittsburgh River Hounds or Detroit CITYFC, or the Greenville

2038
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 8: Triumph where the Ox Nord Guerreros or OZARGFC. You don't

2039
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 8: get to decide that you're too big for any of this.

2040
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:50,719
Speaker 8: You're not that, You're not that damn special. This sport

2041
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 8: made the passion for you.

2042
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 7: Damn it.

2043
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 8: Show respect to the game that is being built at

2044
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 8: the grassroots in this country. Screw you, get back in

2045
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 8: there and play this game. That's the world of soccer.

2046
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 2: Bernie Chris not playing around tonight. How about those Pittsburgh

2047
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 2: river Hounds. Yeah, you didn't know about him? Did you

2048
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 2: guess where they're based?

2049
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 6: You got it.

2050
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh had actually been around since nineteen ninety nine. Bets

2051
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 2: you didn't know that. So we would bring you Chris

2052
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 2: Purfet's World of soccer every week. We cover it all

2053
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 2: on The Bernie Frattle Show. Coming up, we revisit by

2054
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 2: far the biggest sports story this week, Our Cup runneth

2055
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 2: over and yes, as a Chinese save, may you live

2056
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 2: in interesting times. We are got some further thoughts on

2057
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 2: Yoshinobu Yamamoto. You're gonna hear a lot about that name.

2058
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 2: Starting two days ago. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming to

2059
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 2: you live from Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio, Tirack dot

2060
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 2: Com studios. Keep it locked right here, you're listening to

2061
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

2062
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 2: we are wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle Show.

2063
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 2: We'd come to you live from the Las Vegas TIRAQ

2064
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 2: dot com studio. He was Fox Sports Radio. Before I

2065
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:06,520
Speaker 2: go any further, I want to thank my dedicated broadcast

2066
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 2: team back in Los Angeles. They've been with me since

2067
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 2: eleven pm Pacific time on Friday Night. Kevin figures on

2068
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 2: all the updates as well as his input on the

2069
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 2: various subjects we had tonight, and of course say Mognguard

2070
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 2: manning all the phones on our new segment, the Midnight Hour,

2071
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 2: which is Here to Stay, had a lot of really

2072
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 2: good callers tonight. We have had the last few weeks thoughtful,

2073
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 2: thought provoking subject matter. And I want to thank Mark Ramsey,

2074
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 2: our technical producer, always turning all the dials, keeping us

2075
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 2: glued together. And this radio show just doesn't happen. I mean,

2076
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 2: I could go talk in a bathroom wall in a

2077
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 2: yearinal You're never gonna hear me unless I have a

2078
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 2: broadcast team like the one I have back in La

2079
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 2: So appreciate all the efforts. Guys, I hope you enjoy

2080
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 2: the holidays with your family. I will be back on

2081
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 2: these airways, by the way, a Saturday night at eleven

2082
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,759
Speaker 2: pm Pacific for four hour show. Got a banger planned,

2083
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 2: lots of NFL stuff, great guests as well as other

2084
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 2: subject matter and new editions of brand new full of

2085
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 2: what my name? Additional programming note should you be so inclined,

2086
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 2: I'm also hosting solo Sunday night, Christmas Eve from five am.

2087
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 2: Check that again five pm Pacific to eight pm, three

2088
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 2: hour show. A lot of National Football League stuff, but

2089
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 2: we're going to get into other things is as well,

2090
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 2: of course. And then Wednesday night I'll be sitting in

2091
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 2: with Arnie Spaniard on the Jason Smith Mike Harmon Shows

2092
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 2: seven to eleven Pacific. Thursday night I host Ben Maller

2093
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 2: eleven to three Pacific, and then of course back to

2094
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 2: the Bernie Friday Show Friday and Saturday of next week.

2095
01:51:52,080 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 2: But I digress all right for me, As I mentioned earlier, listen,

2096
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 2: we are living in, as a Chinese would say, very

2097
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:10,680
Speaker 2: interesting times. There's no question we are. We have a

2098
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 2: tremendous plethora of sports topics right now. Our Cup runneth

2099
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 2: over if you look at it objectively, no two ways

2100
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 2: about it. But the signing of Yoshinoba Yamamodu really takes

2101
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 2: the cake. As I mentioned earlier, baseball is a sport

2102
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 2: predicated on failure. There's failure every fifteen seconds. The pitcher

2103
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 2: fails to throw a strike, the hitter fails to make contact,

2104
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 2: the fielder fails to make a play, the header feels

2105
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 2: to reach base. It repeats for three hours until someone

2106
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,839
Speaker 2: finally wins, which teaches you two things. Failure is never final,

2107
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 2: and to how you respond to it determines whether you

2108
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,480
Speaker 2: win or not. We the more talent you have ostensibly

2109
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 2: determines how you respond. Now, let's be honest here. The

2110
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 2: Google Him family there there's no question that they want

2111
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 2: to win, and they're willing to spend the money and

2112
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 2: put their money where their mouth is in winning. I

2113
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 2: thought years ago that it might have been a vanity play.

2114
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:16,560
Speaker 2: When they bought the Dodgers, they owned some of the

2115
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:20,040
Speaker 2: most famous art collection in the universe, and now they're

2116
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:25,600
Speaker 2: gathering more. They're gathering more art pieces like Yoshinobyl Yamamoto.

2117
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Speaker 2: It's twenty five years old, received the largest guarantee for

2118
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Speaker 2: any pitcher in the history of Major League Baseball. And

2119
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 2: he's never thrown a pitch in the Major League's got

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Speaker 2: a million more than Garrett Cole before ever throwing a

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Speaker 2: pitch in the majors. But there's an old saying, be

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01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 2: in the right place at the right time, but do

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Speaker 2: something about it. Thanks to his relative youth and the

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Speaker 2: fact that the competition he generated among the game's biggest spenders,

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01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 2: they all wanted them. Dude capitalized man a total payoff

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Speaker 2: to Yamamoto, including a posting fee of fifty million dollars

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Speaker 2: to his former club, New York's Buffaloes. It's going to

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Speaker 2: seed three hundred and seventy five million dollars a combined

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Speaker 2: investment now this offseason in Yamamoto, Shoe, Altani, and Tyler Glass. Now,

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Speaker 2: without discounting for Otani's deferrals, the princely sum of one

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Speaker 2: point two billion dollars. Will it buy a winner? I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Baseball's different. By extending the deal with twelve years,

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Speaker 2: this is going to give them Yamamoto through age thirty six.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers also lowered their luxury tax hit Ya Momoto's

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Speaker 2: average salary. The average annual value at twenty seven point

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Speaker 2: eight million, will be the thirty fourth highest in Major

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Speaker 2: League history, just ahead of Freddy Freeman, who was at

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Speaker 2: twenty seven million. Dodgers luxury tax payroll according to Fangrafts,

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Speaker 2: are you kidding me? Two hundred and eighty two million

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Speaker 2: dollars a year, about fifteen million below the highest threshold

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Speaker 2: the team could still actually trade from the starting pitcher.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got Bobby Miller, you got Walker Bueller.

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Speaker 2: They might even attempt upgraded shortstop. They're serious about this.

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Speaker 2: But man O man O, man shoy Otani and Yosha

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Speaker 2: Noble Yama mold remember they all they won, They won

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Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic. So you know, to who much

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Speaker 2: has given, much is expected heavy as they had who

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Speaker 2: wears the crown. So the pressure on David Roberts, who's

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Speaker 2: about to enter his ninth season as Dodger manager, is

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Speaker 2: going to reach a new level. And it wasn't exactly

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Speaker 2: at a low level before this. David Roberts has managed

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers to five one hundred win seasons, two ninety

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Speaker 2: win seasons, and a World Series title in the shortened

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty COVID. You know campaign as it were, coming

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Speaker 2: off perhaps his best regular season performance, but the Dodgers

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01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,840
Speaker 2: were swept by the Arizona Diamondbacks in the Division Series.

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Speaker 2: They still have not won a World Series in a

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Speaker 2: full season since Kirk Gibson in nineteen eighty eight or

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Speaker 2: hersha Are the Bulldog. Their lineup's going to have three

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Speaker 2: Hall of famers Otani, Freeman, Betts. The rotation is going

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Speaker 2: to include well Glass now Buehler, who's coming off Tommy

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01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 2: John surgery, and Yamamoto is going to adjust to a

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01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 2: new league, a new country, a new culture. The expectations

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Speaker 2: are going to be massive. They're overunder for wins here

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Speaker 2: in Vegas one hundred and five and a half. That's

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Speaker 2: not a prediction, it's not fortune telling. It's that if

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Speaker 2: it's designed to create equal action on both sides. Some

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Speaker 2: people think the Dodgers are one hundred and six games.

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Speaker 2: Some people don't think they will. I don't think they will,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if they're going to win a

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Speaker 2: World Series. But this is sure as hell gonna be

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Speaker 2: fun to watch, because what I do know is I

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Speaker 2: have seen Yamamoto pitch and he is the real deal.

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Speaker 2: He's won the Japanese version of the cym Award. He's

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Speaker 2: won the MVP three years in a row. He's won.

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Speaker 2: He pitched two games for Japan and the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 2: He's got a ninety seven mile an hour fastball. His

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Speaker 2: spin rate is crazy, his movement is crazy. Is splitters

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Speaker 2: regarded as his best pitch. He also throws a looping

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Speaker 2: curveball and a slider. He can pull back, he can

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Speaker 2: dial it up. Tell me this is not gonna be

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Speaker 2: fun to watch. And oh yeah, in Japan, all the

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Speaker 2: games are going to be televised Saturday night. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: have key Otani dates to watch in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna want to mark your calendar beginning in spring training.

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Speaker 2: That is going to do it. For the Bernie Frattle Show,

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Speaker 2: we have got a jam pack show for you Saturday night,

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Speaker 2: but you need eleven PM with a lot of NL coverage,

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Speaker 2: NFL coverage, and much more. Meantime, keep a lock up next.

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Speaker 2: They're great. Anthony Gargano, Fox Sports Radio,