Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are
Speaker 1: you a Charlotte?
Speaker 2: Hi? Everyone, welcome to Are You a Charlotte?
Speaker 1: Today we have a fun episode of Catching Up with
Speaker 1: Friends with the fantastic Rebecca Osaki, who plays one of
Speaker 1: my sorority sisters in the wonderful episode of Frenemies from
Speaker 1: two thousands, season three, episode sixteen, and you. I'm sure
Speaker 1: we'll recognize her. She's incredibly gorgeous. She's currently on a
Speaker 1: CBS show called Ghosts, and it's really fun to catch
Speaker 1: up with her. So please join me in catching up
Speaker 1: with Rebecca.
Speaker 2: Oh, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm very good. I'm so excited to be doing this
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for doing it.
Speaker 1: We love to have our little segment called catching up
Speaker 1: with Friends because it's fun because everyone has such different memories,
Speaker 1: and I'm just so curious what your I have very
Speaker 1: little memories. I remember being so stressed when we filmed
Speaker 1: that scene.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so late nineties. Everyone in New York wanted
Speaker 4: to be on your show, and it was a very
Speaker 4: small part.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you even can recall it.
Speaker 2: Yes again, I just rewatched it.
Speaker 3: It was my very first job.
Speaker 4: Because I was working deep downtown theater, dance theater, and
Speaker 4: it was so It's notable for me in many ways,
Speaker 4: my very first, my very first real job.
Speaker 3: Was it scary? I mean, you know, yeah, sure it
Speaker 3: was nice, lovely.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you well you say you remember
Speaker 4: being stressed, but you were very nice.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad, thank you.
Speaker 3: Good Ava Kabakappa. Ladies did bond and we stayed friends after.
Speaker 4: I haven't talked to either of them in years, but
Speaker 4: both very talented actors. You had many great you know,
Speaker 4: downtown theater actors on that show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we really made an effort, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what help make the show what it was. People might
Speaker 1: not have known that who are watching it, but you know,
Speaker 1: we knew and like the level you know of I
Speaker 1: think Michael Patrick also like very you know, he wants
Speaker 1: everyone to be like just on it, you know, in
Speaker 1: a way.
Speaker 2: That theater actors are just already prepared to be. You
Speaker 2: don't have to explain it, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's part of what made this
Speaker 1: show so rich, is that, like all, even a technically
Speaker 1: small part, people were just so super talented and ready.
Speaker 3: You know, people still stop me. People actually still recognize
Speaker 3: me and text me about it. I saw you on
Speaker 3: the Pathetic, Yeah, I mean you know this whoa.
Speaker 4: But it was such an important moment in television, and
Speaker 4: it was such an iconic group of women that we
Speaker 4: were so dying to see.
Speaker 3: So this angle of your podcast is also very, very smart.
Speaker 3: So thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed doing it, and part of what's fun is
Speaker 1: getting to hear other people's perspective of what it was like.
Speaker 2: So take us back, like, how did you get the part?
Speaker 4: I mean again, I was making the rounds, so somewhat
Speaker 4: fresh out of school, out of acting school, doing a
Speaker 4: lot of theater, and I actually auditioned for the pilot,
Speaker 4: which part for Samantha Probaly in a million years I
Speaker 4: would have ever gotten. But that's how I was perceived
Speaker 4: in that moment, probably probably how I perceived myself in
Speaker 4: my twenties. Turns out I'm not at all a Samantha,
Speaker 4: much more like a charlottecause you know, I ended up
Speaker 4: marrying the good guy after my.
Speaker 3: Bigs, you know, got it. So yeah, I mean it
Speaker 3: was an audition, like you know.
Speaker 2: Of course, right what.
Speaker 3: It was over twenty five years.
Speaker 2: Ago I'm aware.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, right, it's crazy to think about.
Speaker 1: So you auditioned and then did you so you're aware
Speaker 1: of the show and you were like, yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: want to be on it. I don't care if it's
Speaker 1: you know, this part of that part or whatever. Right,
Speaker 1: like you were gay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Downtown Theater actor. There was no part that was
Speaker 4: too small. I was just so and it was just
Speaker 4: such a I mean, it was such a sexy credit
Speaker 4: and it was just was such a fun thing to
Speaker 4: be a part of, even just for a scene and
Speaker 4: a very notable episode.
Speaker 3: You guys coined that.
Speaker 2: Term friend of me is yes.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I always feel very nervous about saying
Speaker 1: that we coined anything because I just feel like it
Speaker 1: seems like maybe it might not be true.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to get to the actual origins of
Speaker 1: a new word, do you know what I mean? But
Speaker 1: it was certainly a big introduction of the world, to
Speaker 1: the culture, to the popular culture, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying too, because and also the concept the name and
Speaker 1: the concept of like what does frenemies mean? And I
Speaker 1: think it's such a great, great episode that really stands up,
Speaker 1: you know, so beautifully. Now when I rewatched it, I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, you know, that's really really good. There's
Speaker 1: so many different angles, you know, two frenemies and what
Speaker 1: it means, and I had I only vaguely remember this
Speaker 1: because Charlotte had so many kind of interesting different you know,
Speaker 1: she's so unexpected at times, and this is one of
Speaker 1: those kind of unexpected things that now is a meme
Speaker 1: that's super embarrassing, but whatever, it's cool. The thing that
Speaker 1: I mostly remember about that, I remember feeling excited that
Speaker 1: I got to go backwards, you know, that Charlotte's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I need to be with my you know, with my
Speaker 1: normal girlfriends or whatever, and that I wear this sweater
Speaker 1: over my shoulders, and that had been something that I
Speaker 1: hated to do. Like every part I've ever played in
Speaker 1: my life, I feel like some costume designer tries to
Speaker 1: put a shoulder through the girl.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, And I just hate it because it's so preppy.
Speaker 1: And I grew up in the South where like it's
Speaker 1: you know, Preppyville, and I was like, it's just too
Speaker 1: on the nose, right, But for that scene, it was
Speaker 1: perfection that that's what Charlotte would do going back to
Speaker 1: see her college girlfriends. But I remember being stressed because
Speaker 1: I had to get drunk and say the crazy like.
Speaker 2: Don't you e or just want to you know?
Speaker 1: And then I remember I had to throw that money
Speaker 1: back like it was a physically challenging thing to do,
Speaker 1: like I had to get up and store them off
Speaker 1: and then throw the money and then it landed in
Speaker 1: the glass.
Speaker 2: Do you remember this, I doe.
Speaker 4: You didn't seem to be it didn't seem to be
Speaker 4: anything that was that complicated for you.
Speaker 3: You did it. Yeah, that's that acrobatic. But maybe you
Speaker 3: made it look easy.
Speaker 4: That's so funny to me that you because I obviously,
Speaker 4: first of all, thank you for the opportunity to deep dive,
Speaker 4: because I, like everyone else in America watched the show.
Speaker 4: Well not everyone, most women watch that show every damn week,
Speaker 4: but I have not seen it in many years, and
Speaker 4: so I took a little deep dive and I couldn't
Speaker 4: stop watching, and I binged a bunch of them again.
Speaker 4: But I'm surprised to hear you say that in the
Speaker 4: front of Me's episode, that was anything you were concerned
Speaker 4: about because you had when you stand in your bedroom.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh I was concerned about that.
Speaker 4: You I mean that was such a beautiful scene, no vulnerable,
Speaker 4: important scene for that character, and I had forgotten about
Speaker 4: that part of the episode, you know, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: that that scene specifically happens, so.
Speaker 1: I forgot that that was in the same episode. And
Speaker 1: that's one thing I do think when I rewatch is
Speaker 1: the writing is just so good that there's there's so
Speaker 1: many like interesting, emotional, kind of important moments that happen
Speaker 1: for all the characters.
Speaker 3: And division between them too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's really so much. And in
Speaker 1: my mind, those two those two storyline, that those are
Speaker 1: separate storylines right in my head, so I don't even
Speaker 1: put them still after rewatching in the same one like.
Speaker 2: For me, you guys. And also I think it's because of.
Speaker 1: The memes, because memes rule our lives now right in
Speaker 1: a weird way. And because I do this podcast. My
Speaker 1: phone shows me so much sex and the city content.
Speaker 1: Oh my good lord, I didn't really know before I
Speaker 1: started this podcast how much was out there.
Speaker 3: People.
Speaker 2: It's so fascinating. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's it's truly amazing and continually amazing. But I do
Speaker 1: think again that there's just so many different reasons for that,
Speaker 1: and I think A lot of it was the writing.
Speaker 1: I think the writing was just so brave and deep
Speaker 1: and funny, and it's hard to be deep and funny
Speaker 1: at the same time, and also unlike anything else, as
Speaker 1: you mentioned. But then also just the actors, like so
Speaker 1: many incredible actors joined us, like yourself, and then you've
Speaker 1: gone on to have these great careers. Take me back
Speaker 1: to your thoughts, like, Okay, it's your first TV job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd been.
Speaker 1: Theater, theater or theater, and when you got there, did
Speaker 1: you think like, wow, this is wacky or did you think, wow,
Speaker 1: this is great?
Speaker 2: What did you think of the day?
Speaker 4: I'll be one honest with you, because back then and
Speaker 4: this is what the Law and Order and the sopranos
Speaker 4: and all this other stuff was for theater, especially Downtown
Speaker 4: Theater paid absolutely zero dollars, so I we had I
Speaker 4: think you guys ran over the first day we were
Speaker 4: scheduled to do the scene ways and it was on
Speaker 4: a Friday, and so me and Vivian Benish and Sherry
Speaker 4: Parker Lee, who were the Kapa Kapa kappas, we had
Speaker 4: to go home, not shoot the scene, and come back
Speaker 4: like four days later, which means we got.
Speaker 3: Paid more money. Great, I have to say back there
Speaker 3: in the day, like that was that was the first
Speaker 3: thing that was like, okay, great.
Speaker 4: You of course, and you were always like, she's fantastic,
Speaker 4: this is lovely.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm glad.
Speaker 1: Did it take forever when we did finally film it?
Speaker 3: Not to my recollection, no, I did.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's amazing.
Speaker 4: One of the reasons might have been I looked back
Speaker 4: and I noticed that your director was Michael Spiller.
Speaker 3: Who was your DP right most of the season, right right.
Speaker 3: He might have been a little faster. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, maybe he was. I don't really remember
Speaker 2: him being faster.
Speaker 1: I don't remember anyone being faster really, because we would
Speaker 1: just film all night long until the sun came up
Speaker 1: so many days, and I remember just being just delirious
Speaker 1: half the time, you know, and trying to be like, oh.
Speaker 2: Get what's that you got to act?
Speaker 1: You know, And especially especially once third season is really
Speaker 1: in my mind, when everything kind of like amped up
Speaker 1: in terms of the response and award shows and all
Speaker 1: that extra stuff you know, that you're doing on top
Speaker 1: of the show. And then fourth season I've just started
Speaker 1: watching and I have like no memories, which I just
Speaker 1: think I at some point got kind of overwhelmed, you know,
Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah, but I in a good way, right,
Speaker 1: in a positive way. I was loving everything and just
Speaker 1: trying to function through it, like how can I do
Speaker 1: this the best I can do it? But also I
Speaker 1: need to go to sleep and fully emerge.
Speaker 4: You know. We do twenty two episodes a season, and
Speaker 4: on the show that I'm doing, no way wrapped our
Speaker 4: fifth season fully don't recall a lot, and we shoot
Speaker 4: on location in Montreal too, so it really feels like
Speaker 4: we're you know, it's another life that completely takes.
Speaker 1: Over, because it is. It is another life that takes over.
Speaker 1: But also I'm so thrilled they're doing twenty two like
Speaker 1: the olden days.
Speaker 2: That's amazing, I know, I know, I feel.
Speaker 3: Really really lucky. I know how lucky I am, especially.
Speaker 4: In this point now, to have a job that I love,
Speaker 4: that people are enjoying watching, and most importantly the company
Speaker 4: of actors that they have because it's a big main
Speaker 4: past and we all really really love each other. We're
Speaker 4: all of us are most of us at least come
Speaker 4: from the theater, so everyone knows what it means to
Speaker 4: be an ensemble which is so important.
Speaker 2: That's so great, that's so great.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear that, because you just don't
Speaker 1: know these days, it's just so rare, few and far
Speaker 1: between that that's the situation. So I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Five seasons. Also, like whoa never happens these days?
Speaker 1: I know, I know in Montreal incredible.
Speaker 3: Have you been to Montreal never? You should visit. It's
Speaker 3: really pretty.
Speaker 2: People love it.
Speaker 3: A little Paris in the Old Town area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've worked in every other Canadian city but that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you should come beyond ghosts. I
Speaker 3: can tell them to call me Rebecca. I'll do it.
Speaker 3: I'll do it.
Speaker 4: Our whole crew are Francophons, so the whole crew speaks French.
Speaker 4: Every business. If you call any business there, they are
Speaker 4: actually mandated by law to answer the phone initially in French.
Speaker 3: Wow. Cool, we're in a foreign country. I love that
Speaker 3: very beautiful food town.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, incredible. Okay, so take me back. Let's
Speaker 1: go back to Sextant City many many years ago.
Speaker 2: It airs. What was response like, how did you feel
Speaker 2: when you watched it?
Speaker 4: I was thrilled, I mean, first of all, to be
Speaker 4: able to tell my parents that they could see my
Speaker 4: work in a way that didn't require them to take
Speaker 4: a train to New York on.
Speaker 3: The Lower East Side.
Speaker 4: That was thrilling, and it just was exciting. It was,
Speaker 4: like I said, it was the show everyone wanted to
Speaker 4: be on.
Speaker 2: Oh sweet?
Speaker 1: Did you feel as a theater actor? I know, like
Speaker 1: for me, I was trained in the theater. I never
Speaker 1: really thought i'd be on TV. And I did a
Speaker 1: bunch of commercials, I did other things, but like, whenever
Speaker 1: I would watch myself, I'd just be like, what, like
Speaker 1: it was so odd on camera?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't love watching myself, but I think I
Speaker 4: needed to stop being self conscious at a certain point,
Speaker 4: you know for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it wasn't traumatic. You were just like, that's cool,
Speaker 1: it's good.
Speaker 4: I mean no, I probably hated the way I looked,
Speaker 4: but also I love and I have. I've been lucky
Speaker 4: enough to be given a wide breadth of parts to play, which,
Speaker 4: as you well know, is not usual in this business.
Speaker 4: I am often asked to play the personnickety, uptight fancy lady,
Speaker 4: which so my first TV job.
Speaker 3: Playing match an structure.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, yeah, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean you did a great job, like, you're so believable,
Speaker 1: and I remember that all of you were so nice, right,
Speaker 1: so I kind of felt bad that you had to
Speaker 1: be like bitchy kind of or whatever.
Speaker 2: But you all did it beautifully.
Speaker 3: Oh it was fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed very grounded.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you were on and so you're still
Speaker 1: out there, you're auditioning, you're doing all the things. And
Speaker 1: then did people recognize you back at the day, Like
Speaker 1: did people talk to you on the street?
Speaker 2: What was it like?
Speaker 4: I don't remember, but shortly after I booked a role
Speaker 4: in The Sopranos, and I would imagine that, you know,
Speaker 4: being given that HBO like oh she's a probably meant
Speaker 4: a lot, you know. I mean people don't know initially
Speaker 4: if someone, if a young actor can handle themselves on
Speaker 4: a set in any way, you know, for the you know,
Speaker 4: have getting that first job for anybody is super important
Speaker 4: and the fact that it was such a you know,
Speaker 4: important show.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Where did you film your Sopranos at
Speaker 2: Silver Cuppers out in the world?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think Silver cup existed.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it existed, It exists. Yeah, that's where we were.
Speaker 1: That's where we were filming.
Speaker 3: We shot our thing on location in Chelsea somewhere.
Speaker 2: Oh got it?
Speaker 3: Got it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, we and the Sopranos were both at Silver Cup.
Speaker 3: No, so Sopranos. We didn't shoot silver Cup.
Speaker 4: We shot someplace out in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I got it. Your own location in Jersey.
Speaker 3: Oh. I probably took a bus from Silver Cup. Sure.
Speaker 3: I took a bus from Silver Cup.
Speaker 4: A bunch of the other actors, and I ate a
Speaker 4: juturo and a bunch of other people to go out
Speaker 4: and do the table read when you all you know,
Speaker 4: by any table reads with everyone all in one intimidating room.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the Sopranos table read. I can I
Speaker 2: don't imagine such a big cast too, such a great,
Speaker 2: great cast. Was it scary?
Speaker 5: That was scary?
Speaker 4: The thing that I do remember is so David Chase.
Speaker 4: So in the audition, I played in a US an attorney,
Speaker 4: United States attorney that.
Speaker 3: Comes Johnny away. I'll tell the story briefly as it's
Speaker 3: not so Oh no, we love it well. So I
Speaker 3: was young and dumb enough.
Speaker 4: First of all, it was back in the day when
Speaker 4: you know, auditions were fifty other people waiting in the
Speaker 4: waiting room, paper thin audition room. Everyone could hear everyone
Speaker 4: else's audition. I believe David Chase was in the room.
Speaker 3: He had to have been.
Speaker 4: And so there's this long indictment that's meant to be
Speaker 4: read in the Supreme court, you know, State Supreme Court.
Speaker 4: And he's I remember him saying, that's great, Yes, I really,
Speaker 4: but don't like make it really feel like you're reading it,
Speaker 4: because it's this is a very precise legal document, you know,
Speaker 4: it's this is.
Speaker 3: Not something exemporaneous. And I said, got it.
Speaker 4: So I got the job, and like a complete lunatic,
Speaker 4: I show up and I'm like, okay, so I'm just
Speaker 4: not going to memorize it.
Speaker 3: And it bit me in the ass because we're just.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, you need to hold the paper just a
Speaker 4: little bit further away from your face.
Speaker 3: I'm just a little bit further and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, so I just had to like but like
Speaker 4: in between takes, I would just run out of the
Speaker 4: room and just like try to flash memorize these things
Speaker 4: because I didn't want to disappoint. But of course, a
Speaker 4: really great lesson to learn in your early twenties too,
Speaker 4: Like no matter what anyone says, be prepared for every
Speaker 4: possible Oh.
Speaker 2: My god, Yes, that's terrifying.
Speaker 4: That was really terrifying because I just did not want
Speaker 4: to disappoint that corset.
Speaker 2: No, you would want to be like super achame.
Speaker 1: But I also could see as an actor why that
Speaker 1: would have meant, don't memorize because he told me to
Speaker 1: read right like, I can see both sides. But then
Speaker 1: of course you don't know what's going to happen. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I do feel when you're young, like you're
Speaker 1: like like, I mean, I never did this because I
Speaker 1: was already sober. But you know when people would would
Speaker 1: have have scenes where they were supposed to be drunk,
Speaker 1: they'd be like, Okay, I need to I need to
Speaker 1: go out the night before and get drunk so that
Speaker 1: I'm like still whatever. People do crazy things, is my point,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I never did that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, never did that. No, no, me, neither me neither.
Speaker 1: Well. How amazing that you were on our show and
Speaker 1: their show at the same time, like roughly meaning time period.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. What a great, great beginning to your career.
Speaker 4: Elements was changing in such a radical way with those
Speaker 4: two shows that that's you guys were both started late nineties, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we when we filmed our pilot was ninety seven,
Speaker 1: and HBO when they sent the contract, they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we can't play with pay with the network's pay.
Speaker 2: We're not a real network. We're just beginning. No no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: We were like, oh.
Speaker 2: God, all right.
Speaker 1: And then for our crew, we filmed our pilot I
Speaker 1: want to say, in June May or June, and then
Speaker 1: they wanted to make a double deal with our crew
Speaker 1: so that they would just go right directly to do
Speaker 1: the Sopranos Project pilot. So it was right after us
Speaker 1: in Jersey, and I remember I think our makeup artist
Speaker 1: saying like, oh, yeah, you know, they want us to
Speaker 1: do some mob show set in Jersey, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: don't do that.
Speaker 2: Like he so did not understand what it was, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, no one understood what it was until that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, right, right right.
Speaker 1: So a lot of our crew did go, but then
Speaker 1: we would overlap, so sometimes we would That's why we like,
Speaker 1: they'd be down the hall at Silver Cup and we'd.
Speaker 2: Try to steal their food.
Speaker 1: That's the story I've told that was printed everywhere because
Speaker 1: they had really great craft.
Speaker 2: Service right, way better.
Speaker 1: Than ours, no offense to ours, but like meat balls
Speaker 1: and hot food and like they were so into their
Speaker 1: food and we would just.
Speaker 2: Be like, how can we get that food down here?
Speaker 2: But it was really fun.
Speaker 3: I don't remember the snacks.
Speaker 4: I don't I remember the crafty on either job, which probably
Speaker 4: to answer your question more honestly, which is yeah, I
Speaker 4: was probably completely scared less on both jobs.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you be?
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you be?
Speaker 1: That's incredible as your first jobs, My god, so great.
Speaker 1: But you know, obviously you're just super talented and they
Speaker 1: could see it right away, which is wonderful.
Speaker 3: Well that's kind of you.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, look at you still having such a great career.
Speaker 1: It's not easy.
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like I've aged into my face. I
Speaker 4: have a period face. Oh, I mean I'm literally playing
Speaker 4: someone who's you know, one hundred and fifty years old.
Speaker 3: That's ezy.
Speaker 1: That's super interesting though, And yeah, I mean you have
Speaker 1: a very specific look that I think lends itself to
Speaker 1: a lot of good things. Like I could see you
Speaker 1: playing interny, I could see you playing my like, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of upper crust sorority sister. You know, you definitely
Speaker 1: have a period face. I mean, but those things are
Speaker 1: so so great. But then if you don't have the things,
Speaker 1: the skill that the you know, talent that all the
Speaker 1: things to fill that in, it doesn't really mean anything,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, anyway, I love it. I love talking
Speaker 1: to you. I love seeing you. Sometimes I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: one of my sorority sisters, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's so New York, right.
Speaker 1: I live in LA but we were working in New York.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I've just been on TV, like on
Speaker 1: the screen or you know what I mean. I'll be like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 3: We're also in the streets of New York. I mean,
Speaker 3: people must feel like they own you in New York, right.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's kind of the opposite of the
Speaker 1: norm and that, you know, they're always like, oh New
Speaker 1: Yorkers don't care. But I'm always thinking like wow, I
Speaker 1: mean it depends where right and depends how I'm dressed.
Speaker 2: So you know, you can.
Speaker 1: If you think it through before you leave the house,
Speaker 1: you can, you can fly under the radar. But like, roughly,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't walk down Madison ABBI really I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't shop, you know. Yeah, it's just too it's
Speaker 1: too specific, you know what I mean saying. And when
Speaker 1: Barney's was still there, we couldn't go to Barney's, which
Speaker 1: was really hard because we really loved Barney's and we
Speaker 1: kept trying to go and it just didn't go well.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's just two it's too it's too.
Speaker 1: Much right to think that I could somehow anonymously do
Speaker 1: the things that the characters do, right though, I do
Speaker 1: think that Sarah and Cynthia, who lived there, I think
Speaker 1: that they really I think that they've got it down,
Speaker 1: like how how to where to go, what to wear
Speaker 1: or how.
Speaker 2: To you know, you can do it. You can do it,
Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to say. You can.
Speaker 1: You can find under the radar if if you're if
Speaker 1: that's what she would like to do that day.
Speaker 4: Right, they're both lovely, but you know Cynthia and then
Speaker 4: extent I see her out in about the theater and
Speaker 4: stuff sometimes and we've got lots of mutual friends and
Speaker 4: she is I think, possibly the very nicest woman in
Speaker 4: show business. Yeah, so talented and so she just finished
Speaker 4: the run.
Speaker 3: Did you see her?
Speaker 2: Missed it? I missed it. I'm so sad about.
Speaker 3: Play Jordan Harrison, and she was magnificent.
Speaker 2: She heard Sarah Saar.
Speaker 1: I loved it and I had a plan and then
Speaker 1: the kids got sick and I couldn't go, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's sad. Yeah, I love to see Cynthia on the stage.
Speaker 1: It's super special, super special and amazing.
Speaker 2: Do you miss the theater?
Speaker 3: I do? You know?
Speaker 4: My husband is a lighting designer for the the so
Speaker 4: I kind of get my fix in that.
Speaker 3: Way a little bit.
Speaker 4: But we just relocated from LA back to New York
Speaker 4: like just within like a couple months ago.
Speaker 3: Oh, which is intense. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think I think I might do more
Speaker 4: theater now today.
Speaker 2: That's exciting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. Nothing, I'm twenty two episodes. I'm I'm
Speaker 3: I need a little break.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I can't even believe anyone's doing twenty
Speaker 2: two episodes these days. It's pretty exciting.
Speaker 1: But yes, it does take over your life for sure.
Speaker 2: For sure. Well, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: I love it so much.
Speaker 1: So good to connect and hear the updates and the
Speaker 1: congratulations on your show and moving back to New York.
Speaker 3: That's fun to you on the podcast all else in
Speaker 3: your life.
Speaker 2: Thank you and.
Speaker 3: For looking truly like you have not aged that I'm
Speaker 3: to age.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but thank you so much. I
Speaker 2: have a lot of light on me right now. As
Speaker 2: you can say a.
Speaker 3: Lighting designer, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, nice perk. Love it. You look fantastic.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Wonderful to chat with you too. Thank you, Rebecca.
Speaker 3: I have a great day.