1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Everybody. I'm Jay Sekulo, I'm Jordan's secular and we are 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: sitting in for our friend Sean Hannity. I am the 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Chief council of the American Center for Lawn Justice, the 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: executive director of the ACLJ, also oversee ACLJ action. We've 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: got a lot to discuss today. There's a lot of 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: news breaking, including Supreme Court action as it relates to 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Title forty two with the immigration crisis on the border. 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Every town now is a border town, every city is 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: a border city. And the problem is the Biden administration 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: wanted to let expire what's called Title forty two, which 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: was at least utilized to try to control an out 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: of control situation. The problem is the Title forty two 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: was set to expire by the Biden administration today, and 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: the governors and the attorney generals of Arizona, Texas and 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: others of the states, especially those directly on the border, 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: have gone to federal court. They were not successful in 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: lower courts, but they asked the Chief Justice in the 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: United States, John Roberts, to stay. That means to issue 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: as stay stop the proceedings so that forty two Title 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: forty two can stay in place. While the Court reviews. 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Now they have until five o'clock the Department of Justice 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: and groups like the ACLU to respond. But I think 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: that what is clear here is all your work before 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. This could Title forty two could in 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: tonight certainly. I mean there's no guarantee. Well, listen, I'd 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: probably have done a dozen or two dozen stays before 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court of the United States on very high 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: profile cases. What the Court did would say, look, we're 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: gonna take a look at this. We want we got 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: the brief from the States, we want the brief from 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: the federal government. Then we're gonna review it. Now that 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: review could just take place by John Roberts himself. He 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: issued to stay, but he could very well say I 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: want the whole court to review it, and could stay 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: into place for a couple of days. He could say 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: I've looked at it and I don't want the state 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: to stay in place at all, and it could be 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: over with tonight. Reality to me, and I've done these before, 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: is I think this is gonna take a couple of days. 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: I think he's going to refer this to the entire court. 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Jordan mentioned the American Civil Liberties Union. You know, they 42 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: used to be the champions of free speech. That's how 43 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: they market themselves. Jordan and I head up the American 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Center for Law Injustice. If you need information and like 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: information about what we do, which is to counter those 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: moves like the ACLU and others that may make I 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: encourage you to go to ACLJA dot org. That's our 48 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: website a CLJA dot org. Of course you can follow 49 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: us on Twitter, trussocial at j sec at Jordan secul. 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: But the ACLU is a planiff. They're a party in 51 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: this case actually, So it's a very unusual situation. You 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: got the States on one side, federal government on the 53 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: other side, and some non governmental organizations like the ACLU 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: on that side. So it's a showdown at the Supreme Court. 55 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: There is no doubt about it. Absolutely, and we know 56 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: the ramifications of this are huge. I mean, if Title 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: forty two goes and that is no longer a tool 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: that can be used by the federal government, we're talking 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: about tens of thousands of new illegal immigrants even a day. 60 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: They're talking about numbers going from three to seven thousands 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: of a day. Yeah, I mean, you got the mayor 62 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: of New York City Mayor Adams is saying we can't 63 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: handle if it goes up a thousand a week in 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: New York. That New Yorkers are gonna not get service 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: as they're used to. Something else that I think is 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: pretty interesting here. The government, through our budgeting process and 67 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: through when the Democrats were controlling both chambers the House 68 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: and the Senate, and of course the White House, they 69 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: decided that they were gonna get eighty seven thousand new 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: IRS agents. Now listen. My first job out of law 71 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: school was the Chief Council's Office of the Internal Revenue Service. 72 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: My client was the IRS. I was a Department of 73 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: Treasury lawyer. I litigated on behalf of the IRS. We 74 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: filed one of the big, well the biggest lawsuit against 75 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: the IRS when they targeted conservative organizations and Tea Party 76 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: organizations about five years six years ago and went to 77 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: federal court. We won, We got an injunction, we got 78 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 1: damages for our client. But the idea that you're gonna 79 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: expand the IRS by eighty seven thousand agents to basically 80 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: go after me and you when everybody else is listening 81 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: to this broadcast right now, rather than putting the resources 82 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: necessary to protect our border, and you got the administration 83 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: in total denial about the problem at the border. At 84 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: least they say they're in denial, but they're in denial 85 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: about the border, but they want to spend billions of 86 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: dollars to increase a dysfunctional agency called the Internal Revenue Service, 87 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: an institution that I've said often, I will say it 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: again is institutionally incapable of self correcting. So we're going 89 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: to really get into some of these issues today what 90 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: we think should be done. I think we're gonna hear 91 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: from members of Congress that have got some solutions to 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: this that we can now actually go through. I'm also 93 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: going to tell you this. The January sixth Committee issued 94 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: their report yesterday. I read it cover to cover, including 95 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: the fifty pages of footnotes. So we're going to talk 96 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: about that a little bit later in the broadcast as well. 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: I will just tell you this, and I've said it before, 98 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: I'll say it again, what happened on January sixth was 99 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: a horrible situation, terrible, But to make a federal criminal 100 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: case based on the allegations contained in that January sixth report, remember, 101 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice can't rely on hearsay. They can't 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: lie on evidence that would be excluded in a court 103 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: of law. It's a whole different paradigm. It's a whole 104 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: different burden of proof and standard that would be implemented. Yeah, 105 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: so let me tell you a little bit about the 106 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: show today. Congresswoman Claudia Tinney is going to be joining 107 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: us first, and she's got proposed legislation to take that 108 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: money that was going that eighty billion dollars for those 109 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: eighty seven thousand new i RS agents to go after 110 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: middle class Americans and take that and reappropriate it to 111 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: the Border Patrol, so we have more Border Patrol agents 112 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: and they have more resources. We've got Senator Bill Haggerty 113 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: on fintanyl, which is something like we talked about every 114 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: city being a border city. We've added this impactly in 115 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: the marriage or poor, urban or live out in the country. 116 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Finitel is affecting every family across the country. So many 117 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: lives lost already. And then Secretary Mike Pompeo is going 118 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: to be on Congressman Jim Jordan about his new investigations 119 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: when the House. Republicans take back the House this next month. 120 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: And Rick Renell, former Acting Director of National Intelligence, so 121 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: a patch show today hit a lot of topics. I'm 122 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna say there's some topics we're gonna hit too. You 123 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: need to stay tuned for folks. I mean, you had 124 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: you had the Department of Justice issuing subpoenas and discovery 125 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: documents on Google and some of the other big tech 126 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: companies against senior staff, senior staff and the Intelligence Committee 127 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: guess when during the famous Muller investigation. So while you 128 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: had the executive branch of government, which is where the 129 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: Department of Justice sits going after the legislative branch of 130 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: government was supposed to have separation of powers in this country, 131 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: and then you had the courts overseeing it, you got 132 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: in play all three, all three of the branches of government. 133 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: Now Jordan, I know a little bit about all of 134 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: this because we served as council to the former president 135 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: during both the Muller investigation and Ukraine's and the impeachment issues, 136 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: so I handled a lot of these cases as the president. 137 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: Sloyds will also be taking some calls at one eight 138 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: hundred and nine four one seven three two six. That's 139 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: eight hundred nine four one sean. But folks, you look 140 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: at what's going on in the country, right now, and 141 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: you say to yourself, it's like a time out. Everybody 142 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: needs to catch your breath here because things are moving 143 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: at unbelievable pace and the abuse that's taking place within 144 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: the government itself is scary. The problem is these institutions. 145 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: We talk about the IRS, we talked about the Department 146 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: just I mean, the FBI was basically running Twitter. I 147 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: mean the reports that have come out on the on 148 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: Twitter is basically Jim Baker, who was the FBI General 149 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: Counsel under James Comey, ends up at the associated or 150 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: deputy General counsel for Twitter. Elon must fired him, by 151 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: the way, because a guy named Jim was blocking the 152 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: disclosures of what was actually happening when Elon was trying 153 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: to get the information out about the putting the thumb 154 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: on the scale, when Twitter was putting the thumb on 155 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: the scale against conservatives, and there was a guy named 156 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: Jim blocking it named Finally, somebody said, who is this guy? Jim? 157 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: Jim He was the former deputy of his former general 158 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: counsel of the FBI for James Comey and then served 159 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: and this is on. You can't make the stuff up, folks. 160 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: As the deputy general counsel for Twitter. And now we 161 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: found out today that there's Nis John one or two 162 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: FBI agents there. It's like they brought over a branch 163 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: of the bureau. Yeah, and we were wondering why in 164 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: some of these disclosures they were talking about classified information, 165 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: and we figured out, well, they brought over a lot 166 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: of people with security clearances. Yes, they were acting like 167 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: an agent of the federal government. In fact, the FBI 168 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: was treating them like they were part of the that 169 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 1: they were some kind of a part of the Federal 170 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: Bureau of Investigation. If you see the emails, they're like 171 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: instructing the Twitter staff, we have a call, don't miss it. 172 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: Here's the list of people. And they were just normal folks, 173 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: not like blue checkmark folks. And they say, these are 174 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: the people we want info on or maybe you should 175 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: take down their accounts. By the way, do you have 176 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: location info on their accounts? Yeah, so they could find 177 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: We need to visit them, Yeah, we need to visit 178 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: So the FBI is working with Twitter to expire Americans 179 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: and these are people that had Jordan said security claims. 180 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: By the way, talking about the irs, we have a 181 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: documentary we put together at ACLJ films if you just 182 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: go to ACLJ films dot com. It's available for free. 183 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: It's called targeting US and US as you period s 184 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: period and it's about the IRS and the abuse of 185 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: the IRS. And again I encourage you to go to 186 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: a CLJ films dot com. So we've got a lot, 187 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: we have a jampack program ahead. I do want to 188 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: say this as we get ready to take a break 189 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: here in a moment. If you want to get more 190 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: information about the work that Jordan and I do, I 191 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: encourage you to go to ACLJ dot org. You could 192 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: also follow us of course on Facebook, Rumble, wherever your 193 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: social media at Jordan Seculo at j Seculo and the 194 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: ACLJ American Center for Law Onjustice is a five and 195 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: one C three nonprofit organization that operates and exists because 196 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: people like you empower us through donations and support to 197 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: the a C l J STACs deductible to go ahead 198 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: and fight the IRS, go after the Department of Justice 199 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: when there's abuse. Protecting you. We have a government accountabil 200 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: project at the ACLJ, and we encourage you to do that. Yeah, 201 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: and defend your constitutional rights, whether it's your religious liberty, 202 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: your freedom of speech, which we see now is under attack, 203 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: speech being under attack from the left so aggressively. So 204 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: if you're interested in support our work at ACLJ dot org, 205 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: we actually have a matching challenge this month. You can 206 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: double the impact of your donation at ACLJ dot org. 207 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: It's a great time. If you do know who we are. 208 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: I think a lot of you do know the secular 209 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: name from the work we've done, either with Sean or 210 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: with President Trump or against the irs, and the targeting 211 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: of the Tea Party goes way back. Support us today 212 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: ACLJ dot org. You can make that year in donation 213 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: and double the impact of your donation. All right, we've 214 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: got a lot more ahead. We've got Congresswoman Tenny coming up. 215 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss it. Be back with 216 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: more in just a moment. All right, Welcome back to 217 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannay's Show. This is Jordan's Seculo. I am 218 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: the executive director of the American Serve for Law Injustice, 219 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: joined co hosting today with my dad j Sekulo in 220 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: our chief Council and the guitarist. In that little little 221 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: bit when you heard coming back into the coming out 222 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: of the break there, that was the j Sculo band, which, 223 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: by the way, we'll be performing a live concert, which 224 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: we do at the end of about six months out 225 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: of the year. About six of the months we do 226 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: a live concert at the end of the month. We'll 227 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: be doing it on this will be New Year's Eve. 228 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: It will be on Facebook, Rumble wherever you go. Just 229 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: if you like us on Facebook or Rumble, it's just 230 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: Jseculo or Seculo and you'll find us. So that was 231 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: a little taste of some of the music. We've got 232 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: a jam pack program ahead and even within this first 233 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: hour still, and I think it's important for people to 234 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: understand when we start talking about the IRS, we come 235 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: at this with some real experience. I mean, Jordan and 236 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: I litigated led the charge on a challenge to the 237 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: Internal Revenue Service and they're targeting there be on the 238 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: lookout list, the targeting that they engaged in against conservative organizations, 239 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: and we want a huge case. Got an injunction, declaratory judgment, 240 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: permanent junction against the IRS, which by the way, as 241 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: soon as the Biden administration came into power, they try 242 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: to violate. But fortunately we got that resolved again challenging 243 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: the IRS, and now you got an eighty seven thousand 244 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: increase in the number of IRS agents that we the 245 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: American taxpayers, are funding an agency that is institutionally incapable 246 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: of self correcting, an entity that has knowingly violated First 247 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: Amendment rights of American citizens, asking groups that apply for 248 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: taxes and status whether they believed in the Bible, whether 249 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: they supported Israel. I mean, these were the questions coming 250 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: out of an IRS agent, And you ask yourself, how 251 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: in the world do we get to that point? And 252 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: that's because bureaucrats left unchecked are dangerous. Yeah, and they 253 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: try to sell this as we're going after the rich, 254 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: but we know that these eighty seven thousand new agents, 255 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: their target is middle class Americans. They don't want to 256 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: go after people who can law you're up, who although, 257 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: by the way, also use big accounting firms to file 258 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: their taxes, who will handle all of their interactions with 259 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: the IRS. They're coming after to audit middle class and 260 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: Americans who don't have the resources necessarily to lawyer up 261 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: to fight back, who will again pay whatever they asked 262 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: them to pay. And they're scared. And this is the 263 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: way Democrats pay for their big budget items. They say, 264 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: we need more IRS agents to go get more money 265 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: from Americans, middle class Americans. It's not the one percent, 266 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: it's not that the highest earners. They always say, you 267 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: need to pay your fair share rich people. That's not 268 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: going to who. Do you think any of those people 269 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: are worried about this IRS agent increase? No. No, because 270 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: they've got teams of accountants and attorneys. Who doesn't have 271 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: teams of accounts attorneys? Middle class Americans and small business owners. Yeah. 272 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: And you know, it was interesting because when we challenge 273 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: the IRS in federal court and these were organizations that 274 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: could not afford lawyers. And this was protracted litigation. I mean, 275 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: this was there was discovery, it went it was in 276 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: federal court, it went on. And fortunately because A. Jordan 277 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Lager said, Jordan and I head up the American Center 278 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: for Lawn Justice, a five or one seed three nonprofit 279 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: organization dedicated to defending and protecting liberty, freedom, life, and 280 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: the ability to speak and engage the issues. And these 281 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: groups were being targeted unlawfully by the Internal Revenue Service 282 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: and they were able to utilize the services of the 283 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: ACLJ American Center for Law Injustice with no charge. We 284 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: don't charge for our services because we're supported as an 285 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: organization by people like you, American citizens that are concerned 286 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: about where things are going and how things are being handled. 287 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: They want to be able to fight back, and that's 288 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: fighting back. By the way, we had lawyers last week 289 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: deployed to a city council hearing in Pueblo, Colorado, and 290 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: on a life issue involving abortion, and at the same 291 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: time we were finishing up a brief to the Supreme 292 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: Court of the United States. So when we say from 293 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court in the United States to your city 294 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: council meeting, that's not figure of speech. That's the reality 295 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: of the work that we're engaged in at the ACLJ. 296 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: Now coming up on the broadcast on John program, we've 297 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: got Claudia Attenney, of course, congressman from New York that's 298 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: got legislation specifically on this issue. That's right. She wants 299 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: to redirect that money from those new to those from 300 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: those new IRS agents eighty seven thousand new IRS agents 301 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: at a cost of eighty billion US taxpayer dollars. Redirect 302 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: that to use those funds to the border border Patrol 303 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: agents to secure our border, because we know that's where 304 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: the you know in the mainstream media is not covering you. No, 305 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: but that's all exactly why we're talking about it. We've 306 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: got a lot more on the broadcast ahead. Do you 307 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: want to check us out ACLJ dot org. That's a 308 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: CLJ dot org. We'll be back in a moment. This 309 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: is Jordan Seku Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. 310 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: We are joined right now by a very special guest 311 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: Carngresswoman Claudia Attenney of New York, and we've been talking 312 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: about the immigration crisis at our southern border and everything 313 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: else that brings with it, all the other crisises that 314 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: come with having having an open border. And she's got 315 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: a really cool piece of legislation to redirect some of 316 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: those funds that we're going to the irs billions of dollars, 317 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: and then we're going to go after middle class Americans 318 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: to redirect that funding and support to our agents on 319 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: the southern border who have been demonized, who have been 320 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: left behind really by the Biden administration. So, Congressman, this 321 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: is Jay sek Hill. We're thrilled that you're with us 322 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: on the Hannity Program. And I got to say at 323 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: the beginning here for those that are just joining us, 324 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court issued a very specific one line set 325 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: and saying they're staying the case involving Title forty two, 326 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: which has given some relief to our border patrol agents, 327 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: but only until the government responds, and then maybe they'll 328 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: hear the case. Maybe they want it could be lifted 329 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: as early as tonight. We've got all this money, eighty 330 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: seven thousand new IRS agents that have already been allocated. 331 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your You've got a bill you're 332 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: calling the Direct Act. Tell us what this would do. 333 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: And it's a variant, folks. This is how you make 334 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: change in Washington, DC by redirecting the flow of funds, 335 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: because that is such a pivotal part of what Congress does. Congressman, 336 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: what does the Direct Act do? Well, thank for being 337 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: on it to complete own or to be on with 338 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: you guys, especially just watching your work over the years. 339 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: And look, I just looked at this and said, why 340 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: are we adding eighty seven thousand IRS agents? We already 341 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: have eighty thousand people working for the IRS, so you 342 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: add eighty seven thousand more. And remember this is in 343 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: the age of we have computers. We have a lot 344 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: more efficiency, so you don't need as many people. Actually 345 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: but they're doing this because number one, they want to 346 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: create a bureaucracy, and number two, they want to go 347 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: after these lower and middle income taxpayers who can't afford 348 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: lawyers and accountants and people that can actually help them 349 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: with their tax returns. And I'll tell you what happens 350 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: as a member of Congress, and I'm sure that even 351 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: the Democrats deal with this. We deal every day with 352 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: taxpayer advocacy. We help people who can't get through the IRS, 353 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: who can't afford lawyers. So now we're going to have 354 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: even more money spent and more bureaucracy and more powerful 355 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: people put in charge. Remember they added guns to the 356 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: repertoire of IRUs stags, and so they're almost like FBI agents, 357 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: which we now know are so corrupt. And I'm looking 358 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: at this, This was already done. It was already appropriated uniparty, 359 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: one party rule by the Democrats. How can we change 360 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: It's the only thing we could do is what they 361 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: call recissions, and that's take that money back and redirect 362 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: it to our border patrol. And our border agents too 363 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: are suffering at the border at the expense of the taxpayers. 364 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: So this bill has actually been out for a little while, 365 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: but it's really getting the Democrats irritated, which is why 366 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: I think it's getting so much steam right now, because 367 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: they realize it makes complete sense use taxpayer wise, money wisely, 368 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: we're not we're hurting our taxpayers. We're hurting immigrants at 369 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: the border. We're hurting people that live in the border states. 370 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, in New York and every state 371 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: has become a border state. We know about our travel 372 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: agency that's been created by the Biden administrations, where night 373 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: flights are landing into places like upstate New York and 374 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: even New York City where they can't handle this influx 375 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants. The border is being run by human traffickers, 376 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: drug traffickers, and the Biden administration refuses to look at this. Obviously, 377 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: I've called for Joe Biden's resignation and impeachment, but we've 378 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: got to get rid of Secretary Mayorkas, who is really 379 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: the guy who's not doing anything about the border and 380 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: controls this on the executive side. You know, we can't 381 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: do anything on Congress, but what we can do is 382 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: get some of our money to the border agent stop 383 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: this from happening. And actually it'll be I'll be curious 384 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: to see what happens. You know, I'm also a lawyer, 385 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: and what would happen with Title forty two. I'm often 386 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: disappointed with the Supreme Court and some of the Sharat 387 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: petitions that get denied by Justice Roberts on issues that 388 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: really needs the Supreme Court to weigh in. So let's 389 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: see what happens. This could be catastrophic for US and 390 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: the attack fayers because you're looking at it, what's estimated 391 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: to be around fourteen thousand people per day would be 392 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: coming into the border. That means over four hundred thousand 393 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: per month, when we're seeing about two hundred and thirty 394 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: thousand and a month of November twenty twenty two alone, 395 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: which is beyond all wreck four hundred percent more than 396 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: it ever has been. So we're seeing like real issues 397 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: happening here. So it's a huge problem. I'm just gonna 398 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: follow up on that because I'm trying to let folks know, 399 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: Congresswoman that I've done a lot of work of the 400 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: Supreme Court for four decades, and I've handled a lot 401 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: of emergency stays, which is what's happened with Title forty two. 402 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Right now, it's just a stay and it's called an 403 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: administrative stay. What the Chief Justice put in place. It's good. 404 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: It's better than the alternative, which would have been in 405 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: an outright denial. But the government's responding. By the time 406 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: we're off the air today, the United States will have responded. 407 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: Then the chief will either you could issue to stay, 408 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: he could deny the stays continuance, or he could refer 409 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: to the full court. I suspect it gets referred to 410 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: the full Court. That's probably what happens, so it may 411 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: stay in place for a while longer. But this idea, 412 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: and you said it, the eighty seven thousand i RS 413 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: agents targeting working Americans, middle class Americans that don't have 414 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: the ability to have lawyers defend them, and cepas to 415 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: go in and negotiate with the IRS, and the outrage 416 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: that an agency like the IRS, which is institute. I've 417 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: said it, I will say it again, and I litigated 418 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: the IRS cases against them and we were successful. But 419 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: I will tell you, folks, I think they're institutionally incapable 420 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 1: of self correcting. And that's where this whole idea of 421 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: redirecting assets money, taxpayer money to the border makes a 422 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: lot of sense as far as we're concerned. Yeah, no, 423 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: I agree. And first of all, the IRS is so powerful, 424 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: as you know, what's the most scary thing other than 425 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: having the FBI at your door, you know, the IRS. 426 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: So these two agencies interesting how powerful they are against 427 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: our criminal justice system, which it results, it's the premise 428 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: of our entire system is we are innocent until proven guilty. 429 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: IRS and the FBI are we're guilty until proven innocent. 430 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: And now you're seeing, you know, the FBI colluding. I 431 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: hate to use the Democrats words, but they project sub 432 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: beautifully for us that you really can just kind of 433 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: see what they're talking about and reinterpret and see that 434 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: the FBI is actually pushing Twitter to spy and pushing 435 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: Twitter to suppress and censor. So the IRS has so 436 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: much power, and you know, they're one of the most 437 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: powerful agencies. How can we have one hundred and sixty 438 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: seven thousand new i RS agents or eighty seven thousand 439 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: new when we have a Marine Corps of about one 440 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four thousand. We have Homeline Security, which 441 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: is a large department, We have Customs and Border patrol, 442 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: but just think about it. The entire labor department for 443 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: the entire United States, there's only fourteen thousand. Honestly, I 444 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: think they also be less. I think we leave less government, 445 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: government bureaucracies, and more at the state level. Yeah, less 446 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: is more, that's for sure. KRISMONTINNY. How do we convince 447 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: your colleagues, especially on the other side of the aisle, 448 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: when you go through the numbers, it's staggered nearly If 449 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Title forty two goes, that could go tonight, like relying 450 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: on the courts. You said you're an attorney. We're all 451 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: attorneys that are talking right now. This could be done 452 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: still at twelve oh one Wednesday morning tomorrow when we 453 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: wake up, we know the cartels are ready. We know 454 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: that thousands are ready at the border. The estimates are 455 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand illegal crossings a day. That would be four 456 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: hundred thousand a month as the population of New Orleans. 457 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: And yet your colleagues on the other side of the 458 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: aisle just I mean, there's a couple that are brave 459 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: enough to speak out, but most of them just kind 460 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: of bury their head in the sand and act like 461 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: this isn't the number one crisis facing our nation. Because 462 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: it's how fitnel gets here. It's how the cartels get here. 463 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: It's how people are smuggled. It's sex trafficking, it's gangs, 464 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: it is the entire plethora. It's terrorist as well. It 465 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: all starts with a porous southern border and a lack 466 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: of resources for our border patrol agents. Yeah, you know what, 467 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: I'll take the cynical view that a lot of people say, well, 468 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: they just want more people in so they can do 469 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: more vote harvesting and get these voters ballots on record. 470 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: I want to say, because you know, Republicans tend to 471 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: go out and use policy and talk about winning every vote. Well, 472 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: Democrats don't win on policy. They win now by collecting 473 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: ballots and taking advantage of our bureaucratic system. So when 474 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: you look at this, this is more bureaucracy again, more 475 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: IRIS agents, more more people coming out us, but nobody 476 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: really able to do anything because they're just bureaucrats. And 477 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: so what do we Why would the Democrats not want 478 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 1: to fix this? This is they're seeing people in their 479 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: own communities fentnel depth at two hundred and fifty a day. 480 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: This isn't the big you know, This isn't you know 481 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: a few, a few two hundred and fifty a year. 482 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: This is two hundred and fifty a day from the 483 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: illegal fentanel. And you know, the cartels are just drooling, 484 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: and you gotta wonder what's going on. Who's making money 485 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: on this other than the cartels and as you know, 486 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: the cartels human and drug trafficking. You know, I don't know, 487 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: are the Democrats getting something for all these people coming 488 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: across the border. Well, I'll tell what America. I'll tell 489 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: you what America is getting, Congrefromen and this is this 490 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: is what America's getting. Every city has become a border city. 491 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: Like you said, sex trafficking up and down the interstate 492 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: quarters in record numbers. I've prosecuted these cases before us. 493 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: It's incredible. And you talk what family hasn't been touched 494 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: by the pental crisis. I mean, this is we're seeing 495 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: unbelievable harm to the American people. And I think about 496 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: the fact that Joe Biden, the President of the United States, 497 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: is in Arizona, won't go to the border, which is 498 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: probably fifteen minutes away from where he was by the 499 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: transport he had available as president. And that's because he says, quote, 500 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: there are more important things. I don't know if anything 501 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: more important right now than securing our borders and protecting 502 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: our families. Congresswoman, Yeah, I would agree with you, and 503 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is they just don't 504 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: want to face the truth. Potentially, you know, they don't. 505 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that they're that cynical. But there's the 506 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: other thing that you know, Trump's arrangement syndrome is a 507 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: real thing. And because Trump put many of these policies 508 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: in place, and we finally brought these numbers down and 509 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: we're trying to see solutions because Congress hasn't been able 510 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: to resolve this problem, especially under democratic rule. A lot 511 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: of it is because they just don't want anything that 512 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: Trump did. If you could change the name and put 513 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: something else on it, then they'd be fine with them. 514 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: I mean, we're keeping the remain of Mexico policy temporarily 515 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: right now because a judge has to deem that something 516 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: that could stay in place. But you know, the Biden 517 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: administration is suing to stop this. Why would you want 518 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: more fentinyl, more injury? I just can't figure it out. 519 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: I will tell you when I went to the border, 520 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: all the resources coming to the border paid for by 521 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: US taxpayers. The HANDI illegal immigrants, whether it's lawyers, food, clothing, 522 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: medical supplies, everything down they're housing. You know, remember Obama 523 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: put them in cages. Joe Biden is putting them in warehouses. 524 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: It looks like a Walmart warehouse down there. You just 525 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: walk in and they're kids everywhere and people everywhere, overwhelmed everywhere. 526 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: Who's paying? Who are the contractors that are getting these contracts? 527 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: Where the government saying, yeah, we need more food, more diapers, 528 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: more everything. I don't know. I mean, I'm just trying 529 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: to Why would you not want to solve this problem? 530 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: Why would you want to hurt the taxpayers on every level, 531 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: whether it's fentinyl, human trafficking, dangerous criminals, terrorism, all those 532 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: things you're talking about coming across the borders. Why would 533 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: you not want to fix this? You're absolutely right. Look, 534 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: we're thrilled, Congresswoman, that you've got the Direct Act out 535 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: there now, it's being discussed. It needs to be. Instead 536 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: of having an eighty seven thousand i RS agents, let's 537 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: get some help on the border to protect all of us, 538 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: which is what needs to happen. Congressman. We appreciate you 539 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: being on Hannity and appreciate your work for the American people. 540 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. Thanks so much. It's an 541 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: honor to be on Good Luck great I need to 542 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 1: say this, I mean the Congressman said this for those 543 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: of you just joining us late on Hannity. This is 544 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: j Secular. Jordan seculars here as well, costing with me 545 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: while Shawn's out where we run the American Center for 546 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Law and Justice the ACLJ. We're involved in these cases. 547 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: So when there's a stay at the Supreme Court of 548 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: the United States on Title forty two, which is the 549 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: only legal system that has at least curtailed this someone 550 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: and it's still out of control, we know what a 551 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: stay means. It means it could be over within seconds. 552 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: I mean literally at five has to come in by 553 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: the United States by the time we go off aired 554 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: about five o'clock Eastern time. Literally a decision can come 555 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: out of five thirty more likely than not a day 556 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: or so. But this is a temporary reprieve for a 557 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: situation that is totally out of control. But if you 558 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: want to know how to respond to this, let me 559 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: encourage you to check our website out for our organization, 560 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 1: the American Center for Law Injustice, it's very easy to do. 561 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: ACLJ dot org. That's ACLJ dot org. And again at 562 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: five or one C three nonprofit organization defending freedom, defending liberty, 563 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: defending our way of life. And your support to the 564 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: a C LJS tax inductor makes a whole lot of 565 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: difference for all of us and for our entire country. 566 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: ACLJ dot org. We want to encourage you to stay tuned. 567 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 1: We've got a lot more ahead, great programs ahead. That's right. 568 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: We've got centator Bill Haggery's former Secretary of State Mike 569 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: Pompeo coming up in the second hour of the Sean 570 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: Hannity Show. And let me just encourage you to support 571 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: our work at the Americans for Law Injustice. That's an 572 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: ACLJ dot org. You're thinking about making year in contributions 573 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: to conservative organizations do great work, think about making one 574 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: to us at the ACLJ. That's ACLJ dot org. We 575 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: have a matching challenge right now, so we encourage you 576 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: check out our website see all the work we do. 577 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: I have a feeling if you are making contributions, you'll 578 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: want to make one to the ACLJ, So go to 579 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: ACLJ dot org. We'll be right back on the Sean 580 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: Hannity Show. Everybody, Welcome back to the Handy Program. This 581 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: is Jay Sekulo and Jordan Seculo. We collectively run the 582 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: American Center for Lawn Justice. We're filling in for Sean today. 583 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: Got a great program. We've been talking about this immigration crisis. 584 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: Coming up literally next segment or so, our friend Senator 585 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: Bill Haggerty from Tennessee. It's got some solutions. So this 586 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: this is a huge problem. It's such a problem that 587 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: Joe bind said, you know, it's a problem, but there 588 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: are other things that are more important and he wouldn't 589 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: even visit the border. By the way, if you like 590 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: that music when you're coming in and coming out, that's 591 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: a band that I'm affiliated with. Just go to look 592 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: at j Sculo band and get that music anywhere. But 593 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: we've got Bill Haggerdy coming up next. It's gonna be 594 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: great fitting a border Crossings Act. It was blocked by 595 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: the Democrats. Yeah, because this is this is where you 596 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: got to get behind you gotta pull back the curtain, 597 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: so to speak, and you find out who the Wizard 598 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: of Oz is. And remember this. So what we're going 599 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: to talk to Senator Haggerdy about is why would they 600 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: block a bill legislation that would protect American families, Like 601 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: why would you fund eighty seven thousand New I er 602 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: S Agents when in fact you are not willing ready 603 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: for this to defend the border, and you're willing to 604 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: do that. We've got a lot more ahead on the 605 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: Hannity broadcast. Be right back