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Speaker 1: four NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. It is so good

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Speaker 1: to visit with all of you as we are now

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Speaker 1: dug in as it were, we're here, things are happening.

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Speaker 2: We're rolling my key.

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Speaker 3: Now ramone, you're doing radio correct? Yes, I am still

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Speaker 3: doing radio.

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Speaker 1: So you're doing ramone, Kayla, and will your program on

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed we are Mike knocking it out and of

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Speaker 4: course being available for all things combined. So I found

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Speaker 4: myself doing the show and just playing double dutch. Okay,

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Speaker 4: do I go down there with Titan dreadio? Do I

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Speaker 4: need to be busy? But yeah, it's been fun so far.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, good stuff. And you were at the combine, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you were a combiner. I was a combined participant, A

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Speaker 1: participant in the combine in two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it was two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: What was that experience?

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Speaker 4: Like a lot different, a lot more stressful, yes than

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Speaker 4: this right stars, Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 5: It was a situation where you knew you were about

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Speaker 4: You wanted to make sure that you were at the

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Speaker 4: far as testing all things involved with the job. Interview

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Speaker 4: essentially and truth be told. And I wasn't just looking

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Speaker 4: I came back here and inside of Lucas Ohl Stadium,

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Speaker 4: I was just like, this is a spy where I

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Speaker 4: That stayment at that time was called it's been very

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Speaker 4: And I was about two people away from running live

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Speaker 3: Yes, so what do you do?

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Speaker 4: I had to go. I had to go productions not

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Speaker 3: What did you run?

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Speaker 5: Five to five? Five five?

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Speaker 4: rejectives be a guard right after that, speed does equate.

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Speaker 4: And mine didn't match up to an NFL tackle at

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Speaker 4: Testing was not whatsoever interesting.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty seven was the first NFL combine in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Our coach Dave McGinnis has been to every combine here.

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Speaker 1: We've counted it up. This is thirty eight for you.

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Speaker 7: It was a completely different world.

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Speaker 6: it's amazing. Now we've got fans here. We've got fans here.

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Speaker 6: Used to be nobody was in here.

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Speaker 1: Coach mac What do you miss most about the olden

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Speaker 6: It wasn't it. It wasn't as I guess I would say,

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Speaker 6: Back then you could never you couldn't get in. It

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Speaker 6: The really good ones would be there, you know, for

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Speaker 3: What do you like best about the modern NFL combine.

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Speaker 6: It's it's it's figured much better for the players. When

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Speaker 6: and then forties in the afternoon. Now it is, it

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Speaker 6: and it's more beneficial for the players. It's more realistic

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Speaker 7: It really is.

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Speaker 6: Back then, it was, I mean, it was a true

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Speaker 2: Well, sure, what else are you gonna do?

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Speaker 7: Borrow a pair of shoes out the tunnel? Done?

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Speaker 6: Sole a pair you know, somebody had already run and

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Speaker 7: He said, are you done with them?

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Speaker 1: Based on what Ran Carthon and Brian Callahan said yesterday

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Speaker 2: I like topics.

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Speaker 1: Kind of kind of interesting. Let's start with this one,

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Speaker 1: Rand Carthon, as he told us on the OTP yesterday,

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Speaker 3: Why react? Why would he be Mike? I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: it's a devalued position. There is a potential free agent

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Speaker 6: Mike Keith, I know you're a poker player, because you're

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Speaker 6: where's I mean, there's not a there's not a GM

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Speaker 1: Let me stop you for a second. Okay, I get that,

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Speaker 6: Well, it won't be they won't have that conversation with

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Speaker 8: The conversations that need to happen are to max point

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Speaker 1: But you said the other clubs, I mean there are

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Speaker 1: Either you're going to sign him or you're going to

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Speaker 4: So, in my history of having this happen in free agency,

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Speaker 7: Ah, we knew where we were.

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Speaker 4: Now again, he would tell me, we got three teams

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Speaker 3: So you're saying Derek will know where he is.

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Speaker 5: He will for sure.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing about Ran or Brian Callahanson anything

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Speaker 5: If you over commit to an original team.

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Speaker 4: God, Derek is a Titan as we know it right

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Speaker 4: now until he puts on another jersey sign of contract.

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Speaker 4: I feel sometimes in Mac you can correct me if

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Speaker 4: But you also don't want to be unrealistic to the

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Speaker 4: public trust. Not that it matters, but you don't want

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Speaker 4: group is new to Nashville, with Brian Callahan and Ram

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Speaker 6: Well, the trust factor does matter, but that's another reason

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 6: This is where you talk to the agents, and the

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. Teams don't want to bid against

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Speaker 3: It's good stuff. You guys got me on this.

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Speaker 5: It's very humbling, and it's that approach.

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Speaker 4: It is because you paint this picture in your mind

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Speaker 4: you expect Derek to make ten. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: But ramon, let me ask you this though, because since

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Speaker 7: Let me not the good agents.

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Speaker 6: Not the good agents, yeah, because I mean an agent

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Speaker 7: I've dealt with it. I mean it's the good agents

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Speaker 1: So the good agents can come back and tell you

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Speaker 7: Mind, that will go may do anything.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: This is very interesting.

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Speaker 3: Kind of got me. Yeah, I was kind of. They

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Speaker 2: Well, this is why you don't say things out loud.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to yourself.

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Speaker 1: Into the issue. Is any If you're doing a podcast,

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Speaker 3: That's kind of It's kind of an important I'm not

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Speaker 7: I think nice.

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Speaker 1: Brian Callahan sounding very much like he's more interested than

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Speaker 1: scored touchdowns are generally more impactful than players at other positions.

443
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: No offense from Foster.

444
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 5: I was taking a little bit of it. I'm glad

445
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 5: you said.

446
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 3: That if I say no offense, is it okay for you? Yes,

447
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 3: it's okay, and then comes in with all due respect.

448
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't bless your heart.

449
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 5: But but but I did.

450
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,959
Speaker 4: I heard and saw the comments on on Brian Callahan

451
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 4: say there's truth to that. I've heard somebody say before. Man,

452
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 4: if you're gonna be bad, don't play. If I'm gonna

453
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 4: watch bad football, be excited. And I don't know what

454
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 4: that means as far as the team moving forward. Protection

455
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 4: is a huge part of it. But if I can

456
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 4: outscore you in a game or two, we can win

457
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 4: some games. I can at least keep it close, and

458
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 4: we can stack and build from there. I understand the

459
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 4: logic in that, because again, if I can put the

460
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 4: ball in a dynamic wide receiver or quarterback's hand, then

461
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 4: we got a better opportunity than the guy that's got

462
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 4: to grow up a position that can't score you touchdown.

463
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 4: I understand that logic. But of course we all understand

464
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 4: this too. You build from the inside out. Now you

465
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 4: also coach Mac this tom of the year, don't do

466
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 4: what you don't show your cards when you're picking in

467
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 4: the top ten and him saying something like that could

468
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 4: be look, the guy we love. We can't tell him

469
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 4: we love him through the press. I don't know if

470
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 4: it's a tackle. I don't know if it's an outside

471
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 4: edge guy that's Russian. But when you say I love

472
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 4: guys that score touchdowns, that just brings us a super

473
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 4: point to the idea. This is a very offensive coach.

474
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask you this, coach Mack is

475
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan in saying that trying to throw off the

476
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: scent or is he showing supreme confidence in what his

477
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: father is able to do with offensive lineman.

478
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 6: Now, the second part of that is a dynamic. Yeah,

479
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 6: that is, I mean your that's a that's a real dynamic.

480
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 6: The other part of this is he's not far removed

481
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 6: from the Jamar Chase Piney Sewell thing. If you'll remember,

482
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 6: oh yeah, back when the Bengals did it, which was

483
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 6: a I mean, both of them have been wonderful players, sure,

484
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 6: top tier players in this league, but they had that

485
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 6: same scenario. So I'm sure that people a lot smarter

486
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 6: than me will go, oh whoa, he was there, you

487
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 6: know with this, So it might be a little bit

488
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 6: of both. But his confidence in his father first of

489
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 6: all of evaluating a dude and how quickly he can

490
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 6: take him to where he needs to take him and

491
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 6: to develop him. That's a major part. That's why this

492
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 6: was a major coup to get him on this staff.

493
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: What was your reaction to that, Rhett? I mean, I

494
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: think it speaks to not only the confidence in his

495
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 3: father is the O line position coach, but I think

496
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 3: it may also speak confidence in what he is going

497
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: to try to be able to do to draw up

498
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 3: off And when you're talking about number seven overall, I

499
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: don't know which of those top tier wide receivers hypothetically

500
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: that we're talking about that would be there, but I

501
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: think you could get one of them. But the quarterbacks

502
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: what's going to dictate all that? But could you be

503
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 3: talking about brock Bowers the tight end from Georgia to

504
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 3: and that, because you're right, he did not. He just

505
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: said offense scoring touchdowns? Mall you know, hands on the ball. Sure,

506
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 3: sure you could see. My old thing with brock Bowers

507
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: is every time we mentioned him on the OTP I

508
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: think there should be some old timey dun dunt dump

509
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: because I think he may be that guy, the dundunt

510
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 3: dunk guy. That is interesting. We talked about it on

511
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 3: Monday's OTP. He's a different sort of player.

512
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 6: Well, he's different than the elite tight ends in this

513
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 6: league now too. He has got because a lot of

514
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 6: these guys are bigger dudes. I mean, even when you

515
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 6: look at the Kelsey's and the Kittles, those guys are

516
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 6: fairly big dudes. But Owers is not that big a dude.

517
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 6: But he is an explosive dude. And the other thing

518
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 6: that he is is he is a real real danger

519
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 6: in the open field. I mean, this guy is when

520
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 6: you look at him, he's pretty special with that type

521
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 6: of thing. And I still go to Brian Callahan at

522
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 6: that podium now, I mean by saying that he causes

523
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 6: all these spiderwebs now to go out and the people

524
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 6: that are trying to draft in front of him are

525
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 6: behind him are going, what the hell's he doing?

526
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure and et people when they heard the

527
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: comment went oh, wow, he's going to take a receiver.

528
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 8: Well, but I mean, okay, So even if that is

529
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 8: the thought process, you also have to remember the Titans

530
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 8: have a pretty nice second round pick as well. Overall,

531
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 8: and so there's also some depth that some other pizzi

532
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 8: where you have a lot of options, I guess is

533
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 8: what I'm trying to say. So if if he's saying, yeah,

534
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 8: we're definitely going to take some sort of a playmaker,

535
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 8: some sort of a receiver.

536
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: Maybe brock Bauers dun dun dun.

537
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 8: If that's something that the Titans are seriously considering with

538
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 8: that number seven spot, look at the depth that's in

539
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 8: that offensive line group, look at the depth that's in

540
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 8: some other places. Can you get a really legitimate player

541
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 8: in that second round? Absolutely you can't.

542
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: And do you find answers in free agency that allow

543
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: you to do that?

544
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: Exactly?

545
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 8: I think the Titans are in a point right now

546
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 8: where there are so many options for this team there

547
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 8: isn't really anything that should be one hundred percent off

548
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 8: the table or outside the rum apossible.

549
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: But isn't that why the combine is fun? That's why

550
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: all of this is because, I mean, if you listen

551
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: to this OTP for Wednesday, February twenty eighth, the day

552
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: after the draft ends, two months from now, none of

553
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: what we're talking about will make any sense. This is

554
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: all makes it may be one or two things you'll

555
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: go back and say, oh, well that was a salient

556
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: point back then, But the other ten things you'll think ludicrous.

557
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: Ludicrous. Yeah, I mean just because the spider web part

558
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: of it.

559
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 7: That's part of it.

560
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 3: It's a huge part.

561
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 6: Here's part of it, and that's and that's going on,

562
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 6: and that started.

563
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 7: I mean it started.

564
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 6: Last night here around surrounding areas.

565
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 3: And now when you say surrounding areas, what do you mean.

566
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 6: I'm talking about all the restaurants and the lobbies and

567
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 6: the meeting rooms and the suites over there that it's

568
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 6: already started. Because this is a beehive of everybody in

569
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 6: the league that's a decision maker. And so now what

570
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 6: this does is once all these guys get to the

571
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 6: podium and I mean I was at the podium before

572
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 6: and so one thing I would say, it just blow

573
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 6: up because everybody is focused here. Yeah, so you've got

574
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 6: to be You've got to kind of keep your powder dry,

575
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 6: but at the same time, don't be dry.

576
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, does it make sense?

577
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: You know?

578
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 7: We sure this is fun, this is really you can

579
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 7: feel the energy at this place.

580
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you really can.

581
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 8: Everything in Indianapolis during Combine Week is kind of like

582
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 8: a season of The Bachelor in that no, in that

583
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 8: I need you guys to hang away me through this

584
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 8: analogy everything because they are complete. The people on that

585
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 8: show are completely isolated from the outside world. Everybody is

586
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 8: right in here in this moment. You're doing this thing

587
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 8: for a week. This is all of your news. These

588
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 8: are all the conversations you're happening. Your whole world is

589
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 8: what's happening at the combine, And all of a sudden,

590
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 8: people start falling in love, storylines start to be a

591
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 8: little bit more inflated than they would be otherwise. Everything

592
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 8: starts to gin and churn here this week because this.

593
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: Is the whole world. Everyone's completely isolated.

594
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 8: The players are isolated, the coaches are isolated, the scouts

595
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 8: are isolated. You're here living this thing and it just

596
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 8: gets bigger and bigger and bigger, and then you fall

597
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 8: in love and get married. And that is the draft

598
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 8: to play out.

599
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: Let me go first.

600
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: The first thing I'd like to say is what scares

601
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: me most about that.

602
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: Is you love that analogy.

603
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: It makes total sense. It is.

604
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Now. The Golden Bachelor would make no sense because they

605
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't pass the medical.

606
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: The Golden Bachelor.

607
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: He's too old, but there's a lot of medics on staffs.

608
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: Well, that's true.

609
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 6: Can I say this you started, he would be on

610
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 6: a stat by saying, I'd been here for thirty eight years.

611
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 6: I had never ever equated this. I'm so happy she's back.

612
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 6: I'm so happy Amy Wells is back. And now I

613
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 6: will never ever look at the combine again other than

614
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 6: the Bachelor.

615
00:29:54,120 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: And people aren't necessarily ending their love the flowers area. God,

616
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: but they're ordering the flowers. Come on, sure, yeah, they're

617
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: ordering the Yeah, because you don't get the flowers till

618
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: draft night.

619
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: Draft, we don't give the fly. But don't you really

620
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: give the flowers to the thirty visits?

621
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

622
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: I mean you keep to keep.

623
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: A single a single. But that's the point is.

624
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, a thirty visit would be another date.

625
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 8: And then you go to a pro day that's like

626
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 8: a hometown and.

627
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: Then somebody's getting the bouquet at the end.

628
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean somebody, I hear.

629
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 7: Can I say this?

630
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 6: There are fifty radio stations set up around this place

631
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 6: right now, fifty at least.

632
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 7: Nobody is equating this to the Bachelor.

633
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: Except I mean, this might be the greatest thing might.

634
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: Be at everybody else has stopped to hear what I said,

635
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: and the hell, okay, before we before we do a

636
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: s read here, I'm gonna give you the first crack

637
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: at this golden Bachelorett.

638
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 8: I am okay, wait wait, I am not the bacher.

639
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's for ten years of calling me regis.

640
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: Please continue.

641
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan said, Peter Skeronsky's best position is guard.

642
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: That was surprising to me, was it? It was a

643
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: little bit. I didn't think.

644
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 8: That with a new staff and a new group, that

645
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 8: we would be so quick to establish roles here.

646
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: You know, even though his father is who his father is.

647
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: Don't you think that might have been coming from dad?

648
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was.

649
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 8: I didn't think that publicly we would be establishing roles

650
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 8: so quick. I was surprised that that was said.

651
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 7: Can I say why they said that?

652
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: Sure?

653
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 7: Because he's a guard?

654
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: Well the other Yeah, I was just gonna say, did

655
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: he just give a one onest answer?

656
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 7: Well sure he did.

657
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: Did Brian Callaan just say, listen, you guys could stop

658
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: all this. Peter Scrochy's guard. My dad said, he's guard.

659
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: That's the part I love about it is you put

660
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: that to bed.

661
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we know what you got put and who's

662
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: arguing with Bill Callahan, not this guy, not me.

663
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 8: I was surprised it was said out loud in front

664
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 8: of people so early, because usually into training camp you

665
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 8: want to work guys in different spots. You like the competition,

666
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 8: you like, you want through the off season everything to

667
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 8: kind of still have that layer of competitiveness and putting

668
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 8: people in different spots. You want to give yourself some

669
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 8: freedom to kind of mix and match, especially within an

670
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 8: offensive line that had a tough year, you want to

671
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 8: give yourself the flexibility to kind of move around. I

672
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 8: was surprised that it was like, this guy's a guard.

673
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 8: We've all known it and talked about it.

674
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 7: But here's why you said it.

675
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: Because he's a guard. He's a guarden, all right.

676
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: And here's the other thing you said, a tough year

677
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: as a group that had a Peter also had a

678
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 4: tough year too, he had surgery in the middle of

679
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: the season. And of course, when you know how it is,

680
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 4: whenever you have like a substitute something like that come in.

681
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do my own thing today. I say that

682
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: at the back of the class to day and the

683
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 4: teacher always have you sit up front. Maybe you also

684
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: send that message through the public. Hey, Peter, don't start

685
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: thinking that this new guy's coming in you're gonna move

686
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: to left tackle. Ah. I love you at left guard.

687
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: This is where we're going to establish it. And I'm

688
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: with coach Mac. We can play the game of He

689
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 4: is a college All American left tackle, but Coach Mac

690
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: could tell you, guys have seen enough ball over the

691
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 4: years that a college defensive end is not a seven

692
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: year All Pro rushing.

693
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: Off the a automatically.

694
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: It's a little bit different at that spot. You can

695
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: be okay at left tackle, but you can be at

696
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 4: minimum a stud at left guard. And I think having

697
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: that stability for him and me personally, I'm so glad

698
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: to hear him say that out loud like that, because

699
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 4: it just it's establishment, like this is where you are.

700
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 5: And I in my second year thought, man, I might

701
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 5: go back at it, you know, at left tackle or

702
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 5: right tackle or something. Nah, move inside and focus in.

703
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 2: On that as a player.

704
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 8: Is it helpful for Scronsky to hear, Okay, I'm a guard,

705
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 8: this is going to be my life.

706
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 2: Let's go. Or is there a frustration because it's like, well,

707
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: I mean.

708
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: It could be a little bit, but I go back

709
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 4: to one of the phrase my A good friend of

710
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 4: mine would say, oat mill is better than no mill. Okay,

711
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 4: you can either play this position. You can either play

712
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: this position and be happy or you get nothing and

713
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 4: like it. I can have you expose at left tackle

714
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: if that's what you want. I mean, Josh Allen's probably

715
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 4: gonna either be franchised or brought back to the Jacks.

716
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you got what the coachs have and then

717
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 4: you got Will Anderson. I mean it's not getting easy.

718
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: I feel better about them specializing at this position at

719
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 4: left guard.

720
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 5: It doesn't minimize you. It's still the quarterbacks backside.

721
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: And if you look at primary suspect number one on

722
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: this team, Jeffrey Simmons, each team in the AFC South

723
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: has a guy like that.

724
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 5: Up the middle.

725
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: The quickest way, and I think teams are starting to

726
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: realize to get to the quarterback is if you have

727
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 4: a week in tier your offensive line, We're gonna dog

728
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: walk all those guys. And why not have one of

729
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: the strongest pedigree guys and Peter Skeronski be one of

730
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: those anchors. Moving forward to stack On. I hope I

731
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: didn't dead that conversation. I love open concept, but I'm

732
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: passionate about Peter Skeronsky because the public conversation is so strong,

733
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 4: the college all American.

734
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 5: Stigma that's with them.

735
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: It's been so many players changed positions going into the

736
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 4: NFL and have benefited greatly because they were smart enough

737
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 4: to do that.

738
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: And you just described how Lamar Jackson was defeated in

739
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Yet again, do you.

740
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 4: See what I'm saying? Where was Where was Chris Jones

741
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 4: in the backfield? Ere we go?

742
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 6: Let me say that, Just say this, as a defensive

743
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 6: game planner, the first place that you attack protections is

744
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 6: not on the edge. The first place you attack a

745
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 6: protection scheme is on the inside.

746
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 4: You know, we used to call them, coach Matt a

747
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 4: candy bar.

748
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 5: You know why?

749
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 7: Yes, I do.

750
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 4: We gotta find it's one we're gonna take a bite

751
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: out of and pass them around.

752
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: Okay, it is snickers, right satisfied.

753
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 8: That is not a post COVID analogy, but.

754
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: The candy bar nasty.

755
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: It's also a sponsor, so he he was just a

756
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: sponsor thing.

757
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 8: I mean, that's delightful, Mark, But I'm not sharing my snickers.

758
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 4: I saw mine, I saw you with the dar snickers

759
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: that during you know that was okay.

760
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: I'm not giving Michael Bake not a sharer.

761
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: I get it.

762
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Seat geek is now the official ticketing partner of the

763
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: Tennessee Tits.

764
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 3: Like I did that, just time to.

765
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: Seat geek is now the official ticketing partner of the

766
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans

767
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Speaker 1: games or any live event in Nashville, seat geek is

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769
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,800
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Speaker 8: So Titans fans, I thought you jump into red, Well

771
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 8: you know it ses the ta.

772
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 7: The first team's here.

773
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: Okay, that's right, first team is here.

774
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: It is all right, Well it's so first team or

775
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you first again. Brian Callahan and Ran

776
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: Carthon said Malik Willis will face competition for the backup

777
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: quarterback job. They will bring somebody in. Sounded as though

778
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: that would be I'm just I'm surmising. Didn't sound like

779
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: that was gonna be a draft pick. Sounded like that

780
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: might be a veteran player. Thoughts.

781
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, that one kind of seemed like a of course.

782
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 8: I mean, Malik's a guy who is established on this

783
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 8: team a little bit. He uh, of course, will be

784
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 8: learning a new system like everybody else. But he's someone

785
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 8: who's proven that he can be a backup. He can

786
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 8: learn the playbook, he can do what he needs to do,

787
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 8: he can fill in for games. There's no reason to

788
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 8: move on from him at this point. Let's bring in

789
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 8: some competition. Let's see what you can do when you've

790
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 8: got him working out with someone else and kind of

791
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 8: get the best fit for the team. I mean, there's

792
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 8: no need to say we're done with that guy. There's

793
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 8: no need to say, up, he's definitely our number two.

794
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 8: I mean options, Mike, give yourself some options. Let's see

795
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 8: what he can do. Let the best man win.

796
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 6: Well, they're not going to say he's number two to

797
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 6: begin with. And the other thing to be is the

798
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 6: head coach now is a quarterback guy. He knows who's

799
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 6: who in the zoo in this league because that's what

800
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 6: he's been making his living doing all of these years

801
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 6: leading up to this. So he's probably got his eye

802
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 6: on some vets right now, and he knows who will

803
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 6: fit into what he's going to try to do offensively.

804
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 6: That to me is a perfect scenario.

805
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 3: That's why when I looked at the free agent list

806
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: as we sit here this week, and it's always subject

807
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: to change, but you know, Jacobi Bursett sitting out there,

808
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew is sitting out there, you know, and people

809
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: would say, but maybe he's too big of a personality

810
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 3: to be the backup quarterback behind Will Levis. Could be true.

811
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: Joshua Dobbs is sitting out there, and I really like

812
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: that option because we've seen he can play, we know

813
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: what he can do. But the one that's really has

814
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: my attention, he's an exclusive rights free agent of the

815
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. Jake Browning.

816
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting.

817
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: That's an interesting one. But back to Dobbs. You know,

818
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: it's funny. Virtually, certainly a majority, maybe an incredible majority,

819
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: of Titans fans wanted Joshua Dobbs back in twenty twenty

820
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: three after he did a commendable job at the end

821
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty two season, and Cleveland came at

822
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: him with a guaranteed amount of money. I think it

823
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: was two million dollars that he couldn't turn down. Could

824
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: not turn that, and then he ended up going to

825
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: Arizona and then ended up playing in Minnesota. But the

826
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: bottom line was the Titans could not guarantee the backup

827
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: quarterback two million dollars because of where they were salary

828
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 1: cap wise. Guess who can now?

829
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 7: I see the reality that you bring that to real music.

830
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: It's not was that right?

831
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 3: Okay? That was good coach thinking? Why am I doing?

832
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 7: I'm just so happy Amy's back.

833
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 5: I know first team because.

834
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: First first teamirst team.

835
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 7: It's like playing handball.

836
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: It walked.

837
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 7: It comes off all four walls. It does.

838
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 6: It's just all four walls. You never know where she's

839
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 6: going to hit it next. You just really don't.

840
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 4: I will say this too with the quarterback competition for

841
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: Malik too, I think a lot of teams around the

842
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: league will realize you're as good as your backup. If

843
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: your guy goes down, your main guy goes down. And

844
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: the reality too is Malik is in a situation where

845
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: as a player, you either getting better you're getting worse.

846
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 4: And to bring in competition, you hope that that brings

847
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: the best out of him. And the best part to

848
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: me is the coolest thing he said. Competition for Malik.

849
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 4: He didn't mention Levis. I think now you send a

850
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 4: separator to where I've always say quarterbacks are weird. They

851
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: are when you bring in a strong personality and bring

852
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: competition into him, they get tight. So Will Levis doesn't

853
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: have to worry about somebody taking his job. He's number one,

854
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: and now he's got two guys that's trying to support him. Essentially,

855
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: now moving forward.

856
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 6: For the best the most The really insightful thing that

857
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 6: was said on this whole conversation with Dobbs is it

858
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 6: wasn't that the Titans really did not like right Dobbs.

859
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 6: They'd have the money now.

860
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: They loved him. They did.

861
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean he had the money, he did

862
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: a whale of a job and and fit in and

863
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: he was I mean, he was that kind of guy

864
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: where they knew he would be that guy with young quarterbacks.

865
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Joshua Dobbs knows who he is. He's not

866
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form thinking he's something he's not.

867
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: And he's he's a smart guy. We all know that.

868
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: But he's also just a good guy and a good teammate.

869
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: Uh No, mamember, how fast he learned the play book and.

870
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: What's great about this, potentially the second time around, is

871
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: he's had even more starting experience. He started what four

872
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: games for the for the Minnesota Vikings last year, so

873
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: you know at the time and the first tour of

874
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: duty with the Titans, he never had a start in

875
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: the six years he'd been in the league. Yeah, so

876
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: now he has more experience. There, Yes, a great point, Riett,

877
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: That's a great point. And we will see if it's

878
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: him or it's somebody else, but another you know, I mean,

879
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: the Browning thing is really intriguing.

880
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: With the fact that you know he did what he did,

881
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: one would think if Cincinnati can afford it, they would

882
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: fight to keep it.

883
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you you would definitely think. So he had a

884
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: great show and he feels confident about himself too. All

885
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: anybody want is an opportunity to win. Of course that

886
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: door opens. Joe Burrow goes down, he turns into one

887
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: of those the type of guys.

888
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 5: But of course, coming here, you'll know what your role is.

889
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 4: At least he has a guy Brian Callahan, that understands

890
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: him what he's capable of.

891
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 5: And like I said, you find yourself.

892
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: If Will Levis goes out for Pinky I don't want

893
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 4: to say anything more than the pinky. Okay, then you

894
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 4: know you got somebody that can carry the offense. That's important,

895
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 4: especially if you're on one of those runs and you

896
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: got AFC AMC South is another AFC West team wherever

897
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 4: you gotta play next year and you can't drop games.

898
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: You got a guy that can carry the waterfall.

899
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: And the other part too is I would think you'll

900
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: want to carry three. Absolutely, with the rules as they

901
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: are the rules, you would you would want to carry three.

902
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: And you know, Malik is not in a bad situation.

903
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: Malik did not help himself in London against Baltimore, that

904
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: is true. Malik, however, has done nothing to hurt himself

905
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: in meetings, in practice, in anything he's been asked to do.

906
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: He is a well liked player for how he approaches

907
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: everything and he want to get better.

908
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 6: All those things you say is true. And the biggest

909
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 6: thing you said, and now the National Football League, the

910
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 6: way that third quarterback rule is, you're really short changing

911
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 6: yourself if you don't carry three.

912
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely all right. Here is a Rankarthon nugget from

913
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: yesterday's media time trailing Burkes training with DeAndre Hopkins.

914
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: Talk to me, I.

915
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 4: Love that everybody's got to be able to reach forward

916
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,959
Speaker 4: or reach back to somebody if d Hop is taking

917
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: them underneath his wing and saying, I know you're capable,

918
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: but this is how we do it. Like, you have

919
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: to learn how to train as a pro. Sometimes I

920
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: think de Hop will probably be a guy that takes

921
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: a month off why and just do some active rest

922
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: workout that's what you call it. And knowing when to

923
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 4: ramp up, knowing when to start running fast faster, learning

924
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: when to hit the jugs. Like there's a process that

925
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: I don't think Trailing Burks has been grace with and

926
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: learning how to be a pro.

927
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 5: AJ was the oldest guy in the.

928
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: Room and then AJ wasn't here because that was the

929
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: exact correlation Trailing is there. So the guidance of a

930
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 4: guy like Trailing Burks and the entries and stuff like

931
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 4: that you got. I give him grace. And I know

932
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: a lot of fan fans of this team is just

933
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 4: well he's done. No, he's not done. This league takes time, training, mindset,

934
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: understanding of the Playbookies now have the coaching change, Like

935
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 4: there's a lot that goes into guys getting better as pros.

936
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 4: And I think de Hop is potentially that stable piece

937
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: in his life and the YAF season that can at

938
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 4: least coach them to understanding how to be better.

939
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 6: Can we all agree at this table, and I think

940
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 6: we do. Everybody that's sitting around this table, how really

941
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 6: much of a benefit the de Hop was to this

942
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 6: football team last year?

943
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

944
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: Agreed.

945
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 6: I am amazing not only what he did on the field,

946
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 6: but what he did off the what he did in

947
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 6: the locker room, and what he did, you know, carrying

948
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 6: the message and Phil remember when we got him in

949
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 6: here from Arizona. Well, he doesn't want to practice, he

950
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 6: won't practice, he won't this, he wont that.

951
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 7: No, he just won out Arizona. Okay.

952
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 6: And now, I mean, I can't think of a guy

953
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 6: that that came in as a as a really really

954
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 6: a veteran, a real dude, a real dude that was

955
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 6: willing to give himself to what the team needed and

956
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 6: to help. And to hear that this kid is now

957
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 6: working with him. I give major props to, first of all, Trailing,

958
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 6: but I give major props not only to Trailing Burk's

959
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 6: for wanting to do it, but for de Hot to

960
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 6: say and come on.

961
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: What what a better person to learn from in continuing

962
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: to learn how to be a pro because DeAndre Hopkins

963
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: can show him not just things about the skill set

964
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 3: and the position that they're both playing, there's so many

965
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: things he could because, let me tell you, DeAndre Hopkins

966
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: is a fascinating person to super intelligent person and you

967
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: talk about a pros pro. Now. He made that impression

968
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 3: on me early. I was like, this is this interesting?

969
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 3: I really like hated seeing him twice a years in

970
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: Texan back then, but I think this is really good

971
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: news that you're you know, if I'm a Titan's saying, Okay,

972
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: so DeAndre maybe back and he's he's teaching. Okay, Yeah,

973
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: this this is good. How's this bad? Well?

974
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 8: You've got to also think about the dynamics within the

975
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 8: wide receiver room since Treilan was drafted. There hasn't been

976
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 8: and I do not mean this as a slight to anybody,

977
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 8: so please don't take it as that there hasn't been

978
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 8: a ton of strong veteran leadership by someone who's been

979
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 8: a consistent performer in that room.

980
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean, there were a.

981
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 8: Lot of injuries in that space, and it has all

982
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 8: for the last three four years has been a very young.

983
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: Room, and so to have that's a great point.

984
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 8: To have someone who is a veteran who can perform,

985
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 8: who is consistently showing up on the field week after

986
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 8: week after week, and sometimes injuries happen in it's nobody's fault,

987
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 8: but the reality is he's able to see someone make

988
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 8: it through an entire season, perform at a high level,

989
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 8: and be able to get advice from that person, not

990
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 8: just someone who's maybe older and was brought in for

991
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 8: special situations or someone who was older but then didn't

992
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 8: necessarily perform the way they were supposed to and they

993
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 8: were injured and didn't want to risk it. And there

994
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 8: has just been a lot of things that have been

995
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 8: going on in that room. The core of that room

996
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 8: has been young, inexperienced guys, so there hasn't been too

997
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 8: many people for him to look to to say how

998
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 8: do I do this? And he struggled early. He had

999
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 8: some of those issues that he's overcome. He's become a

1000
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 8: better player, he's become more of a mature player, I think,

1001
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 8: but he hasn't had someone that he can look at

1002
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 8: and like truly emulate at his own position. Now he

1003
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 8: has that in deander.

1004
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: Him right, and last year was just completely lost. Yeah,

1005
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: he hurts the knee in Minnesota in August while we're

1006
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: practicing against them. He misses a bunch of time. He

1007
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: doesn't need to miss time because he needed to practice

1008
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: as much as anything else. He comes back, he has

1009
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: one good game. I guess he had a good game

1010
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. I think it was. And then he

1011
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: gets hurt again, and then and then you know, and

1012
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: just kept being things all along. Here's the thing about him.

1013
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: I hope he's modeling himself after DeAndre Hopkins, but I

1014
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: also hope he's saying I want Nico Collins third year

1015
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: Nico Collins not picked as highly as Trailing Burk's by Houston,

1016
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: but this is wild. Trailing Burk's first year thirty three

1017
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: catches over four hundred yards, one touchdown. Nico Collins rookie

1018
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: year thirty three catches over four hundred yards, one touchdown.

1019
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: That virtually the same rookie year. Nico Collins year two

1020
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: is better than Trailing's, but it was hardly awe inspiring.

1021
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: I think he had thirty seven catches. Then in year three,

1022
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: Nico Collins eighty catches twelve hundred ninety seven yards eight touchdowns.

1023
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: If the Titans could have him have the Nico Collins

1024
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: third year.

1025
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 7: Oh mynd that's a win for everybody. Oh my, that's

1026
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 7: a great point, Mike.

1027
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 4: And the relationship just real quick. With what he's building

1028
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 4: with d Hop too. I almost feel like when you

1029
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 4: have guys that understand that have been accomplished in this league,

1030
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 4: it's okay Ford Hop and sit back and those games and.

1031
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 5: Say, watch Trailing work, I'll get mine.

1032
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: Like if Trailer's getting twelve targets and d Hops getting six,

1033
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 4: you have no ego because they've established a relationship and

1034
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 4: you know how they can go with that position with

1035
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 4: wide receivers. They're painted as devas, but when you see

1036
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 4: a young guy, I mean, the best they and.

1037
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 5: It should be right. They should want the ball and

1038
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 5: maybe mentally right.

1039
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: And Amy, golly, you brought up such a great point

1040
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 4: and just saying that he hasn't had the professional guidance

1041
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 4: of somebody that's done it. Most people coach back when

1042
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 4: they come into the league. The Vets put the arm

1043
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: around him, don't they the good ones? Right, They put

1044
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: their arm around him, and he's had to your point,

1045
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: nobody put that arm around him.

1046
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 5: And say this is how you're supposed to be all pro.

1047
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 3: This was a good show. This is a good OTP

1048
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: said that was surprised. No, I didn't.

1049
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: Then, Okay, So I'm gonna ask one of the two

1050
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: draft analysts we're gonna have on the OTP tomorrow, they

1051
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: being Jordan Reid and Daniel Jeremia. I'm gonna ask one

1052
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: of them if they believe Ran Carthon may be able

1053
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: to trade down from seven. If that may happen, We'll

1054
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: see what they think. A lot more to discuss during

1055
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: the course of this week. Again tomorrow, Daniel Jeremiah and

1056
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: Jordan Reid to talk specifics of the draft class, but

1057
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: a lot more coming up on the OTP. Ramon Foster, coach,

1058
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, RTT, Bryan Amy Wells, thank you. I'm Mike Keith,

1059
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: and thank you the ot people for joining us from

1060
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: Indianapolis and the NFL Scouting Combine on the OTP.

1061
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: Welcome to the big show where the legends calling. Everybody

1062
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: knows who's it's our house fighting vun sense