1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Dakota and this is Riley. Your favorite 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: okay stories on hosts and we got some great stories 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: coming up. But before that, we have a quick two 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: minute break from the sponsors to keep this show alive. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: My best friend faked an entire marriage and I finally 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: exposed him. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 3: Why would you do that? 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: Don't expose him, clothe them. He deserves the straight jacket, 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: trigger warning mentions of mistreatment and faking medical diagnoses. So 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: I thirty three female, don't know where to start with 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: this honestly, which I feel like, you know, it's one 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: of those stories. Yesterday morning, I was messaged by a 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: mutual friend, Sam thirty four female, expressing concern for our 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: buddy Dylan thirty three male. We all went to school 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: together then moved apart. Sam and I don't talk, but 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: we're friends on social media, and Dylan will mention us 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: to each other now and then in the way anyone 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: would mention their friends in passing. I had also begun 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: to worry about Dylan lately and had planned to reach 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: out to Sam myself. Again, this is a person that 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: they talked to, not very irregularly. Yeah, she just beat 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: me to it. He's always been flaky and bad at 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: keeping plans, and he said stuff in the past that 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: I've known wasn't correct, but it was never a big deal. 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: So maybe we're going to be the beginning of compulsive wires. 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, just a lot of white lives. 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 4: He's like, oh, yeah, I just saw the Pope this weekend, 28 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 4: and he's like. 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: That doesn't up. 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: What doesn't Yeah, what shoes was he wearing? Huh? And 31 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: if he was like, oh, he's wearing Pope slippers. The 32 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: Pope wears dunks. The Pope wears Nike dunks. Gosh, dang it, 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: Pope is stylish as heck. I was about to say 34 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: stylish as hell, but no, he's stylish as heaven. Baby, 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: he wears Nike. Dug Riley pulled that up. Pope Leo 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: wears Nike dunks, the freshest Go Goo Nike dunks and 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: deep dish. Anyway, But it was never a big deal, 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: like he'd contradict the story he told me previously, But 39 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: there's always small enough that it didn't bother me, and 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: I just humor him. It takes two to tango. You're 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: emboldening a liar. Yeah, that's your fault, that's your fault, Opie, 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: you wear that burden. By the way, you know who 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: wears this burden? What comes from I hope you don't 44 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: find this I found it, Opi. 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 3: It's too late. 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: I've already found it. 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: Fi And if you want to submit your own stories, 48 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: go to our slash Okay story time. Mind it. 49 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm Sam, by the way, I'm Sophia, I'm Riley. 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: And we're here to give good advice goofily. But we 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: don't know all the answers. We just know what Pope 52 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: Leo wears is this choice of shoe. But tell us 53 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: what you would do in these situations and maybe we 54 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: can all learn together. So as op says, I mean, 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: people exaggerate for effects. Sometimes it's not the end of 56 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: the world. But it's been getting more and more the 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: last few weeks, and I've begun to worry that it's 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: a medical concern. This man's lying so much that OPI 59 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: is like, I think his brain broke. He's been erratic, 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: confused forgetting things and just acting on. Sam had the 61 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: same feeling. However, as we started to talk about our worries, 62 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: we realized stuff wasn't lining up. There were things that 63 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: he'd told me and not her and vice versa, or 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: different versions of the same story. We started digging deeper 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: and realized the lies stretched back at least ten years 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: that we know of. 67 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 4: Okay, maybe, God, that's a little too long. 68 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: That is a long time. I mean tumors can grow slow, 69 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: that's true, tumors can grow slow. The lies range from 70 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: the city he lives in, his job and his finances, 71 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: to marriage mistreatment and terminal illness. 72 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: He's telling everyone has a tumor. Yeah, you don't know 73 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: if that's true. That Yeah, that's a medical that's a 74 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: you know, quite ten years. 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: I feel like, at what point is it like a 76 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: medical issue and what point is it just you? Well, 77 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: I think does he have a chic, durable case of 78 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: being a butthole? 79 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: I think he has like a neurological thing where he 80 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: has to lie. 81 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's being an asshole, Sophia. Not necessarily a logical 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: thing where you have to lie. 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: That's no, it's like a thing. 84 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Tiger Woods had that too. 85 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: Or was it the Pope. 86 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: No, Pope's infallible. Pope can't lie and he's cool's head 87 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: and he's cools. Heck, yea, he told me he had 88 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: a lope with his partner and got married. He told 89 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: Sam nothing of this, despite telling me she and I 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: would be bridesmaids at their wedding before they decided to 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: just do it in Vegas. We reached out to some 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: old friends who neither of us are in touch with, 93 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: but knew he was, and turns out they all distanced 94 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: themselves from him when they realized they were getting different stories, 95 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: but none of them knew the depths of it. It 96 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: was odd and frustrating that I'd never met the partner, 97 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: but not outside the realm's reality because we live in 98 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: different countries. Well, I thought, now I'm sure. 99 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: I have no idea where he lives. He could live. 100 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: Next door, he doesn't even have a partner, could. 101 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: Be the pope, that's why he doesn't have a wife. 102 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: Well, I thought, now I'm unsure. I'm now thinking he 103 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: might not have ever actually left the state, So he 104 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: really could be your neighbor. And they both travel for work, 105 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: and I don't have much money or time to go gallivanting. 106 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: Same with Sam. She lives in South Africa, so similar experience. 107 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: We'd spoken to the husband on a different phone number 108 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: and everything seemed legit okay, So they've talked to the 109 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: husband of the liar. 110 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 4: Yes, I guess Sam and. 111 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: Ope talked to the husband of the liar. 112 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 4: Who's Dan, Dan Dan Dan. 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: Dean Dean Op has been married to Dean for almost 114 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: nine years. I have a friend Nate. 115 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: Nate. 116 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, wrong story. I was like, what, sorry, Dean, 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: the actual friend Sam is concerned for our buddy Dylan. 118 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 4: So Dylan, Yeah, Dylan is the liar. And we've talked 119 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: to Dylan's husband. 120 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: Digor Dylan's husband quote unquote, yeah, a husband. Yeah, we've 121 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: now realized that they were deep dive pictures from the internet, 122 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: the husband. 123 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 4: Who did you talk to? 124 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: I actually found the guy on Instagram and spoke to 125 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: him yesterday. I'd never done this before because it never 126 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: occurred to me. It didn't seem weird, and he'd never 127 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: even heard of Dylan. What He'd alleged a lot of 128 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: mistreatment from this person as well, which is deeply upsetting. 129 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: As he knows, I've been in a harmful relationship previously. 130 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, So Dylan has been telling Ope that he 131 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: is in a harmful relationship. 132 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: With this random guy on Instagram. Yes, who has been 133 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: heard baked into talking. Maybe we don't know talking well. 134 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: Someone was talking on the phone and Op and Sam 135 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: thought it was this random guy on Instagram. 136 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 137 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: He also told us about eighteen months ago that he 138 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: was diagnosed with a terminal illness. He's told us about 139 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: surgeries and treatment and remission and it's coming back. I've 140 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: spent many nights bereft thinking my best friend was going 141 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: to pass away. It's now become clear that this is 142 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: not true. So stopping here real quick, checking in with chat. 143 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: What the heck is going on here? What do you do? 144 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: Put your answers in the chat? Yeah, I'll give you 145 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: a little bit of time. But Sophia, at what point 146 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: do you like, just distance yourself from this person? And 147 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: at what point do you say, like, oh, is this 148 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: person experiencing a medical emergency? 149 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 4: I think you have two options. Do you either choose 150 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: the easy route distance, you know, follow what everyone else 151 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: was doing when they found out about the lies. Or 152 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: it seems that you and Sam are pretty worried about Dylan. 153 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: You work together little intervention style, You sit them down, 154 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: You say, hey, we've realized that you've been lying about 155 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: a lot of stuff for ten years. We are very 156 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: concerned about you, you know, we think you need help. 157 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: And if at that point he's like, don't talk to 158 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 4: me for I'm not lying, what are you saying? 159 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: Then maybe well maybe that's the toom we're talking. 160 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you can only offer advice. Yeah, I 161 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: mean I also might be lying about you know, he 162 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: might say, Okay, I'll get help and then and then. 163 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: Lie about that. Yeah. I mean I feel like if 164 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: you think there's something neurologically wrong, I'd say, like, hey, 165 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: we want to be keep you in our lives because 166 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: we've been in contact for so long. But I think 167 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: you need to go to the hospital and get your 168 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: noggin checked out because something's up. 169 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: Is that an M or you do. 170 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: Like that cat scan? 171 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? What's a cat scan for? 172 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: I'd think for the brain the brains? 173 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 4: Is cat scan for the brain? There's like a like 174 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 4: a like a neurological. 175 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: Yeah scan, you got tiger woods on there? See T 176 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: scan scanning cats? Or is it like cat scan? 177 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 178 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: I guess so young? 179 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: Wait now now look, is a cat scan the same 180 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: as a CT scan? 181 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: But let's see what what what do the people say? Hi? Ali, 182 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: ALA's here? Tell me what you guys would do immediately 183 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: remove yourself from the relationship because the deep lies are 184 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: deep rooted. What is even honest about this person? Uh, 185 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: Butterfly for You says, I was proven that my daughter 186 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: was having medical issues. No doctor found was your daughter lying? 187 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, this has got to be 188 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: a medical issue, and then you got to figure it out. 189 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 3: Oh. 190 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 4: I think I think it was just the daughter was saying, hey, 191 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: I'm experiencing this, and all the doctor's like, no. 192 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: No, she's lying, She's lia. 193 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I feel like jelly Bus says, you 194 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: got to see a doctor about them? Eyes rude, jelly Yeah. 195 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: I feel like your relationship is kind of formed on 196 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: a lot. I do appreciate that you and Sam are 197 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: trying to figure something out. I think we do some 198 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: kind of intervention and say, hey, we both recognize this. 199 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: If you don't like seek help in some way, I 200 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: feel like we can't have you in our lives anymore. 201 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 202 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: Yep. So they're worried about Dylan. They figured out Dylan 203 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: has been spreading lies, and Dylan made a fake husband 204 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: online and is like getting all of the stuff. 205 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: That's what I was wondering about was the initial thing 206 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: of op saying, Oh, I haven't seen this person in 207 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: a while, but they were talking about Sam. 208 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: Correct, No, they're talking about I guess at the beginning. 209 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were talking about Sam. Yeah, okay, kim Fwayne 210 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: said told y'all, it's like my friend. She'd come and 211 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: go from our lives because we've grown her up together, 212 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: but all other friend groups would get abandoned, come back 213 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: to the OG's degree group, then rint and repeat over 214 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: and over. Was your friend lying sounds like you're friend? 215 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 2: My wee line? That sucks, but we have more of 216 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: the story. So, oh boy, everything he said that's not 217 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: added up has either been so small I didn't care 218 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: or assume he was confused or misunderstanding, or so big 219 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: you'd never question it because why on earth would someone 220 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: do that, especially since we've known him since we were 221 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: all kids and he was always put together, intelligent, successful, generous. 222 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: But we've realized that it's all an illusion since you 223 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: were kids. Initially we worried it was maybe head trauma 224 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: from the long term mistreatment, or that the terminal illness 225 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: had spread to his brain or something. 226 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: But neither of those things were true. 227 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the depth and breadth of it, plus the 228 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: realization that the terminal illness is a lie. We're not 229 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: so sure. Yeah, I wonder why is he doing this? 230 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,359 Speaker 4: I really think it's like a pathological thing. I think, Yeah, 231 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: I think there is no reason. I think it's been 232 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: if it's been going on since they were kids, I 233 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: don't think there is a reason. I think that's just like, 234 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 4: you know, he's got some neurological thing. 235 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: You know what I don't get. Why not make like 236 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: more fun lies, you know, like terminal illness and like 237 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: your partner mistreating you are least fun lies you could 238 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 2: call him up with. 239 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's so true. 240 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: You could be the pope. 241 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you could be the pope. Dylan is not 242 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: a great storyteller. No, that's what I've learned. 243 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like he's trying to keep it realistic, 244 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: but also he wants the most amount of pity pity. 245 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm good. Littleness. That's like the lowest 246 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: you can go. 247 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, Oh I guess, yeah, you want the 248 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: pity points. 249 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, my parents mistreated me? What else? My died? How many? 250 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: How many of his dogs done? 251 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: That's what I've that's true. Yeah, I adopted twelve dogs 252 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: and then you just have like one die after one another. 253 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, concerning. 254 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: That is unfortunate. Yeah, she was full of lying, married 255 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 2: a dude and then abandoned him and his child two 256 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: days later without saying anything like nothing happened. That's him. 257 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: Fine about the friends. So this stuff happens, folks, The 258 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: stuff happens. So here is where we need advice. We've 259 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: reached out to a few of his family members. We 260 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: figured the way to go about this is to come 261 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: from a place of concern and wanting to get him help, 262 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: which is true. He's obviously not well and we don't 263 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 2: want to abandon him and get some clarification on some 264 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: stuff and figure out next steps. However, I'm pretty sure 265 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: the messages have gone into message requests and they're not 266 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: being notified as none of them have been read. We 267 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: don't have any other contact details for his family members, 268 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: and the people in his life that he speaks to 269 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: us about, we don't know who they are. They'll just 270 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: be referred to by first name. I've been avoiding him 271 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: all day after he had a medical emergency, but wouldn't 272 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: let me speak to anyone. Also, a medical emergency is 273 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: in quotes, Yeah, but wouldn't let me speak to anyone 274 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: else there, and I just needed the space today to 275 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: figure crap out. We've been figuring more stuff out today. 276 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: But what do we do if his family doesn't respond? 277 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: Neither of us are confrontational, and we both still care 278 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: and want him to get help, even if we can't 279 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: continue to be his friends. Once he's access support, we 280 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: can't abandon him. Also, if his family does respond, how 281 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 2: much do we reveal? My life has truly been blown 282 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: up the last day and I just feel lost and sad, 283 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: and neither Sam nor I know what the f to 284 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: do in this bizarre situation. And there is an update. 285 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: Oh boy, but Sophia chat, Yes, what. 286 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: Do you think we do in this situation? We gave 287 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: a little teaser of what we thought we should do, 288 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: but what do you actually think we should do? 289 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: Mmmm mmm? I mean, like I again, I don't think 290 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: my my path forward has changed. I think, yeah, you 291 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: either end the friendship or you try and see if 292 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: you can change him. 293 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which it seems like OP is moving towards Yeah, 294 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: and also trying to contact the family. I wanderlus Ali 295 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: says I had a friend who was a pathological liar 296 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: and also wanted pity wanderless. Ali also says chronic illness 297 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: and friends who are always dying. Sila says, speak to 298 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: a professional about the situation before confronting with Sam. Yeah, 299 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: I mean, what like what do you do when you 300 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: say speak professional? Do you speak to like a therapist 301 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: about like on the behalf of this person. 302 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: That diagnosis chronic illnesses? 303 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: It could be if you really wanted to, like, you know, 304 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: look into it, you could speak to a therapist. 305 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: I mean I have seen videos of like therapists being 306 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: called in to mediate interventions, which could be something you 307 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: could do. Imagine it, like might be a little bit expensive. 308 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: But imagine being that therapist in the car ride over 309 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: to the intervention. 310 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: Like would you you might be in the car with them, right. 311 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: You know what's going through the therapists the way to 312 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: the I feel like. 313 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: It's just a job. 314 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 315 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: They're just like I'm I feel like they're like all right, 316 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: like here's another one. Excited. 317 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not on my home turf or. 318 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: Not even excited. I'm just like here's it, here's another 319 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: another spot. I think they're professional intervention therapists. We'll get 320 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: up Briley are their professional intervention therapists. What is this? 321 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a it's a giraft going through a ct scam. 322 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: Oh, just like in Madagascar. 323 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly. Yes, I just watched it. 324 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel I feel like this. I feel like 325 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: it would make I think maybe getting a professional therapist, 326 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: intervention coach or something could be good. I would you 327 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: could try to talk to the family, but I don't know, 328 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: it seems like it seems like you don't know this person. 329 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: It's like, what, you've known this person since childhood, but 330 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: they don't have any contact with any of their family. 331 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. And also you don't you know, you don't see 332 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: them in person. 333 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: Because always I've known like some of my friends a 334 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: long time, and I don't have like their parents' numbers. 335 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. True. 336 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: Oh so these are specifically called. 337 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: Interventionalists ms kind of are they licensed therapists menalists? 338 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? They like there they like are professionals within the 339 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: addiction and mental health things and they know how to 340 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: mediate that kind of stuff. I remember on TLC they 341 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: would do episodes where someone was like scared of going 342 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: outside and they have a therapist and the therapists would 343 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: walk them through how to go outside that's yeah, and 344 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: break their fears and stuff like that. 345 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 2: Honestly, I like that idea. I was a little bit like, oh, like, 346 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: how would you have a professional in this case? But 347 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: I feel like a professional interventioner or a mediator interventionist 348 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: would be pretty cool, yea. And I think that might 349 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: be a way that you might not need all the 350 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: family to come. You could try inviting them to but interventionists. 351 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: Look at that that nice interventionist there, Look how happy 352 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: he is to. 353 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: Certain I feel like, like the constant lying that feels 354 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 4: like an addiction. 355 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, lying aversion to truth. Yeah, I mean, 356 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: let's see what do what do the people say? Mina 357 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: Nelson says, my new psychiatrist has Keon's eyes and a 358 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: smile and it's around my age. Don't fall in love 359 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: with your therapi as Nita. 360 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. And also someone said neurological might not be the 361 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 4: right word. I was thinking along like a lot of 362 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 4: times addiction is considered like neurological, so I don't know 363 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 4: if I'm using the correct terminology. But that's like the 364 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 4: on the line I was thinking, Yeah. 365 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: But we are going to get into this update. Oh boy, 366 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: thank you for the replies and the concerns. I am 367 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: in therapy myself have been in DBT, debt debt. 368 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah maybe no, no, no, no, no, it's uh. DBT 369 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 4: is a type of therapy. 370 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 2: Is that behavioral double behavioral therapy. 371 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: Dialectic behavioral therapy. 372 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: It's dialectic, oh like speaking. 373 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: Do you remember when the therapists come there. 374 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's different. 375 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: There's sematic semantic that like deals with the body, and 376 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: then dialectic that deals with like this up. So it's 377 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: like more like the mind. 378 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: Stuff like talk therapy. 379 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because some therapy the girls in here will 380 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: know here in a second, but like it trauma stores 381 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: in the body and that's like some while like diabetic. 382 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: Or dialectics diabetic diabetic therapy. 383 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: Sillah says, in my opinion, Sam has trauma that causes 384 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: the pathological lying. I don't like that this person shares 385 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: my name. 386 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: That's just a friend though. 387 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 4: Oh and and Sam is not. It's uh uh what's Dylan? 388 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 2: Dylan is? Dylan is a liar? Psychosomatics Isnean Nelson. So 389 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: I've been in dialectic behavioral therapy for a year now. 390 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: So we'll speak to my therapist about this for sure. 391 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: We managed to get in touch with a family member yesterday. 392 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: Charlie and Sam and I both spoke to them. According 393 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: to Charlie, the family has been aware of his lies 394 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: for his whole life. Wow, but I had no idea 395 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: the extent of it. They were really sad to hear 396 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: how deep it's all gone, but they were able to 397 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: verify our concerns. We now know one hundred percent he's 398 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 2: lied about his job, where he lives, his partner's, his 399 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: terminal illness, being mistreated, a bunch of other men issues. 400 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: You really don't know who this person is. You've been 401 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: friends with a shall of a human. 402 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: It's pretty crazy that have the parents done anything, Like. 403 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: Did they not tell his friends? 404 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, childhood, Like oh hey you know teacher, missus, what's 405 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: your name? My son is the chronicle. 406 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: You know he's also you've been friends with this person 407 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: for like ten years. 408 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was picking up on a little. 409 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: A little bit, but like, yeah, I guess I don't know. 410 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: I for some of my friends that I don't hang 411 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: out with in person, really, I have a friend that 412 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: lives in another country, and like he could be telling me, 413 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: like he actually just told me that he might be 414 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: popping the question and like hesic soon yea, he lie? 415 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: Who sixty days potentially who I'll give you. I'll give 416 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: you a hint. Okay, right ready, think of last names 417 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: and think of the giraffe Madagascar. 418 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 4: Nope, think of the draft Wars draft in Madagascar. 419 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: He was in a All right, you can think of 420 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: all that. So twenty years and none of it has 421 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: been real. I'm twenty years. It's been twenty years. 422 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: Twenty years. 423 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 2: I'm glad that Charlie got back to us because despite 424 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: all the advice saying to I don't think I could 425 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: have just walked away without alerting someone definitely in his life. 426 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: Sam and I have discussed it, and, as a few 427 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: of you have said, we're not going to be the 428 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 2: ones to fix this confrontation will do nothing but make 429 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: it all worse. We decided to both slow fade our 430 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: respective friendships with him and let his family take over. 431 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: Charlie said that they're going over to see his mom 432 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: today just by coincidence, so a little discussed with her 433 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: and let us know the outcome. So yeah, really effing's sad. 434 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: What do you think about slow rolling a way? 435 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: I've done it. 436 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done it. 437 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: We've all done a slow roll. 438 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: I think for the long term friendships, especially when this 439 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 4: I you know, no conversation would actually help here because 440 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 4: he could just lie. 441 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 442 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: I think that makes sense to just. 443 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: Be like he's had many years of practice. 444 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, this is a good friend of you. 445 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't like the slow role. I think you should 446 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: confront them, even though you're a non confrontational person. You're 447 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: their friend. You should call them on your bs. No 448 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: one else is going to do it. 449 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 450 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: I feel like I have gone through secles of being 451 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: that that guy that tells the truth. 452 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 4: Oh. 453 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: Yes, as Sophia knows, I've gone through cycles of being like, oh, like, 454 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: what do you think of my new song? I didn't 455 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: like it? I like, I feel like people trust you, 456 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: but people may not like you. So there is a line, 457 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: there is a line. There is a line. There's a line. Now, 458 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: I've played with that line. I've danced on that line, 459 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: mostly on the truth side, and then being a little 460 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 2: bit less, still telling the truth, but being less truth 461 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: forward and more packaging in a nice little bows. 462 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: Always been a very truthful person. 463 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: Me. 464 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: It's true, it is true. It's true. And you can 465 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 2: believe that trust asked the blind Man he signed to 466 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: Liar liar. Great movie. But you know, I feel like 467 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: I kind of agree with Riley that I've definitely gone 468 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: through moonds of this. But like I remember, I had 469 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: this friend that like I just didn't like feel that 470 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: connected with, and she felt like I was being a 471 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: bad friend because like I wasn't spending time with her, 472 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: and I was like, I see you more as a 473 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: friend group friend. 474 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: Oh you did tell me this story? 475 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah. Also because she was in love with 476 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: one of my other friends and kept telling him and 477 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: wanting to see him and date him, and it was 478 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: like weird. So there was like, you're thinking of Riley, 479 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: but like it's not who you're thinking of. There's been 480 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: many people in love with this man. Yeah, but yeah, 481 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: I feel like honestly saying that and being truthful in 482 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: that moment was not maybe that great of an idea. 483 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: I think it's I think it depends because I think 484 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: sometimes you can just roll back and it's better for everyone. 485 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 4: And sometimes if people keep pushing and you're like I'm 486 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 4: trying to roll back and they keep following me, then 487 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 4: you have to set the boundary. 488 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true. I think it was because 489 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: it was a soft rollback, and I was like, why 490 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: you roll them back? 491 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 4: I'm like, h this is what I don't like. 492 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it's hard, y'all, it's hard. 493 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: I think if this is a friend that you care about, 494 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: saying the truth once to them might be good. But 495 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, you've been friends for twenty years. If 496 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 2: I was friends with twenty someone for twenty years, and 497 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to start distancing myself, like I'm trying to think, 498 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: is there anyone that I've like distanced myself that the 499 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: only friend that I've had is Christian that's been twenty years. Yeah, 500 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 2: twenty years actually on the dot. Wow, yeah, well that's 501 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: not true of twenty three years. 502 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 503 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, because it was like I 504 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: just had my twenty year, I will have. 505 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: My twentieth, so you would, yeah, your twentieth. 506 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 4: My twentieth this August. 507 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel I feel like saying, why do you 508 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: have to announce your departure? Why? I think you only 509 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: have to announce your departure if there's like a reason 510 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: that it's coming and you want to try to maintain 511 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: your friendship. So it's not saying like I'm not going 512 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: to hang out with you anymore. It's like if they're like, 513 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: why aren't we hanging out anymore? I think being honest there, 514 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: or if it's like I care about you and I 515 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: love to keep you my life, but this is why 516 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: I am leaving. 517 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you think it will help. 518 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: Them, If you think it will help them, because it 519 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: doesn't always. But like also like at the same point, 520 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: like do you even have this friend? Yeah, like do 521 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: you know anything about them? 522 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: Isn't anything about that? 523 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. I can see it going both ways, 524 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: but I'm curious what'll y'all think. But we have another update. 525 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: So it's been just over three weeks since I found 526 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: out my best friend Dylan has been lying to me 527 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: our entire relationship about everything in his life. Also note 528 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: best friend Dylan. 529 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've said They've said that a multiple times. Yeah, 530 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: they've said best friend multiple time. 531 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: It's your best friend. 532 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, but they also don't know anything 533 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: about their best friend. 534 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: It's been twenty years. 535 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 4: It's been twenty years. 536 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: Honestly, it sucked Sam his other best friend, and I 537 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: decided to slow fade away. But even in the space 538 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: of just a week, he increased the intensity to a 539 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: point I couldn't take it anymore. It was initially just 540 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: replying once a day to the innocuous messages that weren't 541 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: to do with lies. Yeah. Example, Yeah, I watched that 542 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: movie you recommended. It was great with Sam and I 543 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: both doing it at the same time. I guess he 544 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: felt the shift. 545 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: Which goes into what we said of sometimes there's a 546 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 4: point where you need to set the bound. 547 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: This is where I send a movie recommendation that is 548 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: very closely related to what's happening in my life. 549 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, liar, lie. 550 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: Liar, send a liar liar. Think of what are some 551 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: other big liar, big liar? Gone girl that personal lives? 552 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, great movie. 553 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: Great that is lives. 554 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 4: I haven't seen that movie. Oh yeah, yeah, no spoilers. 555 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: You like it? I think I guess he felt the shift. Also, 556 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 2: his ex husband aka the guy he stocked but never met, 557 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: blocked him on Instagram after I gave the IG handle 558 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: for his own safety, so he obviously started to panic. 559 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: In about a week after all this happened, I woke 560 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: up to twenty deleted messages. Wow, I love twenty deleted. 561 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just deleted, deleted, deleted. Doubly. 562 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: There's a guy that the Ali simp that will send 563 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: her a message every single day and then delete it 564 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: and send it again, and then delete it and send 565 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: it again on Insteagram, on Instagram, she blocked him. I 566 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: don't think she's the blocking type. 567 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: And she should block him. 568 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, some of those dudes, Sorry, I have going around 569 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: on this now. Yeah, some dude did this with a 570 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: bunch of like models and he sent like, hey, thinking 571 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: about you beautiful Day one, thinking about you beautiful Day two, 572 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: and then he did it every day until Christmas time. 573 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: Then he went dead silent, and some of those girls 574 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: did a video about man, this guy that usually talks 575 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: to me every day, he just automatically stopped talking to 576 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: me today and I feel really sad. It's to the holidays. 577 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: He's like, what, that's so funny, right, that's crazy. 578 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 2: That's crazy. Probably something's broken with both of those people. Yeah, 579 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: we've spoken about this before. It's one of the only 580 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: things I'd ever come close to having a go at 581 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: him about. It makes my anxiety go haywire. I can't 582 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: handle it. He apologized and told me the leading messages 583 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: were because a third party I had told him that 584 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: his mom was having a hurt issue and he freaked 585 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: out for two hours and discovered it was a lie. 586 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, buddy, that's not true. 587 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: Said he wanted to unalive the sea word who told 588 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: him that, and he hates those people. That was what 589 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: broke me. Okay, are we going to get a little 590 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: get a little truth coming, a little truth action? 591 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: Do you even have a mom? 592 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: Right? 593 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: We're those just hired actors I talked to. 594 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: First of all, I saw the first ten messages before 595 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: I went to sleep in my notifications bar, but didn't 596 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: open them. It was him talking about some jewelry he liked. 597 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: Second of all, are you effing kidding me? He's been 598 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: lying to me about having terminal illness for two years. 599 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: I decided I have to get out firmly. I sent 600 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: a long message explaining that I know everything and that's 601 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: hurt me beyond belief. I said I wouldn't tell him 602 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: how I found everything out, but that I knew it 603 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: all and I hope he can get help, but I 604 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: can't be around while he does it. He read it immediately, 605 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: but I blocked him before he could reply. On all platforms. Wow, 606 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: what block before a reply? 607 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I. 608 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: Think he's like, well, you just lied to me again. 609 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: I know, but I'd be curious at least what the 610 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: lie was. 611 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, block before the reply? 612 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 4: What about us? 613 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, we want to know. 614 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 4: No, I think that is understandable. 615 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Immediately I felt a weight lifted, and for a 616 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: week and a half I was sad, and other aspects 617 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: of my mental health have been affected by it. But 618 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: I at least felt relief to be away from it all. 619 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: Question prediction conspiracy theory. Do we think that this man 620 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: Dylan is going to come back another account? 621 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: I worry. 622 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: I worry. I think. I think Dylan is not gone. 623 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: I think Dylan is gonna spring around the corner. 624 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: Is he the type of person to go through facial 625 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: reconstruction and all of that to come back into op 626 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: in Sam's life. 627 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: To a Vanilla Skuy, Vanilla Sky do a Vanilla Skuy. 628 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: I was thinking, like in the movie Bolt. 629 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: Oh, like the Bolt with the dog. 630 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, they just get a new dog. 631 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: No, at the end of the movie. The villain in 632 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 4: the movie franchise that they're shooting, he gets facial reconstruction. 633 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Mmm, oh yeah, I remember that, or maybe Penny. Is 634 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: he the type of person to do that. 635 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: Though Penny gets facial reconstruction, I. 636 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: Don't think he's the type of person who get facial 637 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: reconstructive surgery. But I think he's going to do digital 638 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: reconstruction surgery and create a whole new account to get 639 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: into Op's life. 640 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 4: But I can see that happening. 641 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: Sam hadn't heard from me either, so in my head 642 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: I was picturing him being like, crap, they know I've 643 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: been found out. After I told her I sent the message, 644 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: she realized that she'd actually accidentally archived his messages and 645 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: he'd been messaging her all week. She told him to 646 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: f off and not speak to her again. I was 647 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: so far off. Little turns out, I blocked him on WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, 648 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: et cetera, but forgot that just regular old texts are 649 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: a thing. I got a message from him the other 650 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: day saying he knows it was Sam who poisoned me 651 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: against him, that he's done with her and doesn't care 652 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: about her. That I'm scum for dropping him and not 653 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: talking to him about it at all. And the kicker 654 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: is he doubled down on everything. Yeah, since he clearly 655 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: didn't realize I'd spoken to multiple people often than Sam. 656 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: He said she was lying and that everything he'd said 657 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: was true and he'd never ever lied. There's another relevant update. 658 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: But let's discuss what are we that dang? 659 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, there's nothing you could do about that. 660 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: There's nothing you can do. It's not your fault, you know, Yeah, 661 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 4: it's it's Dylan's. 662 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: Own thing, Dylan thing. At least, I feel happy that 663 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: we didn't just do the slow role. 664 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, like we had, we try to have a discussion. 665 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 4: Nothing changed, and so we you know, hard cut off. 666 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. Oh what do you think Riley? 667 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: This is smart? The thing I'm really worried about is 668 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: when does it come to compromising your safety? 669 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 670 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if this keeps happening, you might put yourself 671 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: in a situation where you can't come out of. 672 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like putting distance is good. Hopefully 673 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: it doesn't get crazier. I guess we'll see, hopefully. But 674 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: he said I was incapable of having a conversation about 675 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: the real world bowl. I ignored it. But I've been 676 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: keeping in touch with his family and Sam through all this, 677 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: and we've been all been up in each other, so 678 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: they've all seen it. Funnily enough, after all the stuff 679 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: he said about Sam, he then tried to call her 680 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: multiple times, begging her to talk to him. I got 681 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: a message from his sister in law yesterday saying his 682 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: brother has now spoken to him and informed him that 683 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: we've all been in contact with each other and everyone knows. 684 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: Everything apparently didn't go well. I don't know how exactly 685 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: how they hope it's the first steps to getting him 686 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: help though. Okay, it's good that his family's taking over. Yeah, 687 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: so yeah, it's effed me up a bit, but my 688 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: therapy started up again after a schedule break, and there 689 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: we have it. That's what a. 690 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: Tale, A tall tale, tall, the tallest. 691 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: The tallst Dale. 692 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 693 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's where that story ends. 694 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it really does. I wish him luck in trying 695 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 4: to get through this. 696 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: SOA says Op should have confronted Dylan. I feel like 697 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: there was a little bit of confrontation. 698 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, she did have a little bit of confrontation, and 699 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: then he continued to lie. Yeah that's when she was like, 700 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: I don't think I can get through to this guy. 701 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, I feel like compulsive liars man, they 702 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: scare me. I mean, there's so many things to remembers, 703 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: have good memories. I wonder if compulse of liars are 704 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: better at memory games the good ones. I guess. 705 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 4: I think sometimes that's that's usually how you you know, 706 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 4: notice that they're lying. Yeah, it's like remember things don't 707 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 4: add up. 708 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like method acting as a lifestyle. 709 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. True. 710 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, this is who I am. 711 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, that is where that story ends. 712 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Riley, your favorite Southern bale. We're going 713 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: to get back to these stories. But here's three minutes 714 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: worth of ads form our sponsors. 715 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: The bride said my deaf husband didn't fit her aesthetic, 716 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: so I ended our friendship. 717 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he's not a good accessory. Then he got 718 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 2: to or rop him. 719 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 4: I thirty nine male, have been married to my husband 720 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 4: Dean forty male, for almost nine years. 721 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 722 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 4: I have a friend Nate thirty eight male, that I'm 723 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 4: at in grad school and we have been close until 724 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 4: about five years ago. For the last five years we 725 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 4: have remained in touch, but our meetings have been reduced 726 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 4: to every three to four months, despite living in the 727 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: same city. 728 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 2: Wow. 729 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: I have a child, Lucy's seven female, which contributed to 730 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: our distance as kids take priority. By the way, this 731 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 4: comes from I cry after a spicy sleep, am a, 732 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 4: ask me anything, Ask me anything, ask me anything. 733 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: That is a crazy user name. 734 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 4: And if you want to smit your own stories, go 735 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 4: to your slash okay, story time suffered it. I'm Sophia, 736 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm Riley, and we're here to give good 737 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 4: of my school. Little we don't know everything. That's not possible. 738 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: It's not possible. 739 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 4: But if you know everything, please let us know because 740 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 4: we want to study you for science. 741 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: And oh p says. 742 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 4: Nate got married two weeks ago to a woman, Lisa. 743 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 2: Lisa. 744 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 4: I don't know how old, probably our age yep. Female. 745 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 4: I have never met this woman prior to the wedding 746 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 4: and only heard about her with discussions with Nate. Nate 747 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 4: and my husband have met a lot, as Dean usually 748 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 4: comes to our dinners, and they interact well. As far 749 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 4: as I could tell. Nate and Lisa are quite religious, 750 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: but Nate has never had an issue that I'm married 751 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 4: to a man. No my proaggressions, nothing. He also told 752 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 4: me that Lisa has no issue either. 753 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: Cool, there's no issues. Story done all over just getting 754 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: from done. 755 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 4: Wait. Based off of the title, This is so funny 756 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 4: because I think we're gonna find out they're totally cool 757 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 4: that you guys are. We've been calling it J with 758 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 4: a G, J with a G. Yeah. Oh yeah for 759 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 4: because J with a G. Yeah, because of censorships. Yeah, 760 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 4: it's really funny if they're like, no, no, no, we're 761 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 4: totally cool with you guys being J with G. But 762 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 4: he's deaf. However, when the RSVPs went out about two 763 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 4: months ago, it was addressed only to me, which I 764 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 4: thought was odd. I didn't think it was weird that 765 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 4: my daughter wasn't invited. However, I thought it was weird 766 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 4: the Dean wasn't. I asked Nate, and he stated, oh, 767 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 4: it's just very small ceremony, so they weren't doing plus one. 768 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 2: We sent out invites, but they were verbal. 769 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're sent to hearing except those in the wedding party. 770 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 4: I accept this and spoke with Dean. Dean encouraged me 771 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 4: to go to help preserve my friendship with Nate, and 772 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 4: also because he doesn't like large events. Well, supposedly, it's 773 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 4: a small event. My husband is deaf and large groups 774 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 4: of people make him extra anxious. He doesn't litbreed well 775 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 4: as contrary to popular belief, most deaf people don't, and 776 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 4: to my knowledge, no one else at the wedding knows ASL, 777 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 4: so he would have to rely on me or technology 778 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 4: to communicate. All was well and good until the wedding. 779 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 4: Two weeks ago. I get to the wedding, which was 780 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 4: at a very large church and filled with people. Who 781 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 4: are these people? 782 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: I was small? 783 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: I thought it was small. Oh yeah, it was hardly 784 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: a party. Yeah yeah, it was a two hundreds. 785 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 4: No big deal deal, not just filled packed and almost 786 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 4: everyone had their spouse is attending, including two classmates of 787 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 4: ours from grad school who I know and ate probably 788 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 4: has spoken to more than once or twice since grad school. 789 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 2: What what? What would have happened if you invited OPI's partner? 790 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: Why is it like, I feel like it's more drama 791 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: to not invite them. 792 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 4: It's crazy because also the whole I mean, we're going 793 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 4: to get into it, but that just doesn't make sense. 794 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 4: I asked one of my friends, Marty forty five mail, 795 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 4: who said that his invitation said and guests no, what 796 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 4: did they think was going to happen? When op got 797 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 4: the wedding. Were they just like, oh, it's too late now. 798 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 2: Or I mean like OP was definitely gonna find appen. 799 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 800 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: Just because Dean's death doesn't mean OP can't pick up 801 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: on context clues. 802 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: Oh oh oh oh yeah. Oh. 803 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 4: I then noticed something else. Every other couple was hetero. 804 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: Wait, so was it because he's j with the G 805 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: or death we don't know him both. 806 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a combo at a combo. I'm very uh yeah, 807 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: I'm fine with Jay with the G. I'm five with 808 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: deaf people. But when they mix, no, you chose a lane. 809 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever seen Dairy Girls. I'm 810 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 4: doing a lot of references here, but there's one character. 811 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 4: It's set in Ireland, and there's one character who's British 812 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 4: and and in the it's in the nineties, so it's 813 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 4: like very tense. And there's one scene where the two 814 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 4: parents are talking and they're like and there's a running 815 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 4: joke where they think this guy's gay and he's like, 816 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 4: I'm not gay, and they're like, oh, are you trying 817 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 4: to say that he can't stay with you because like 818 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 4: he's he's gay. Like, I'm very disappointed, and they're like, no, 819 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 4: the case thing's fine, it's the British thing. 820 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: Never let written to the home. Yeah, that's what was 821 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: all about. 822 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: Actually, which amendment does not allow quarterings? 823 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's true. Yeah, what was it? 824 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 4: Fifth amendment? 825 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: Fifth amendment? Do you actually know that? No way? 826 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 4: Or is it the fourth man? 827 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: No? I think they know amendment, third amendment. 828 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 4: Third amendment amendment. 829 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, you can take that one. I'm saying 830 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 2: third amendment. I would say fourth amendment, third amendment. You 831 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 2: can't let a British person into your quarters something like that. 832 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 3: You know it's a soldier, soldier. 833 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: What were the soldiers British exactly? Oh, my gosh, first legal. 834 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 4: Third, and there you go. He knows his amendments. 835 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: Oh do I know my emendments? 836 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 1: And that's kind of crazy. That's the third one, because 837 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: you get well, free free speech, religion and all that, 838 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: and then right arms, arms. 839 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 4: To bear arms, and then you can't well, okay. 840 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: You can't have a British guy in your room. 841 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 4: I will say that it was really relevant at the time. 842 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 4: Levant just kept trying to not. 843 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: Let a British person into our our house since the amendment. 844 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 3: That's not true. 845 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 2: There's a name on such person. Name one. See she 846 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: can't and you. 847 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: Can't mention Harrison. He's my British person. 848 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: Ye, name one British which house this house? Name one 849 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 2: British person that's been here? 850 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, Casay Harrison, that's my. 851 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 2: That's my design. No Brits allowed ever since we whooped 852 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 2: their booties in seventeen seventy two. 853 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I can. There were no LGBT 854 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 4: couples at all. I was upset, but kept it to 855 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 4: myself until this past weekend when I saw Lisa at 856 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 4: another friend's party. 857 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 2: Also, just to be clear, I don't hate British people. 858 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 2: I feel like I remember there was a joke about 859 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 2: me hating British people, and then all the British people 860 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: got really mad, like why do you hate British people? 861 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 4: I don't. Doesn't it SUPs them into our house? 862 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 2: I literally did a whole series on cook for Me 863 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 2: about British people, so shout out my Brits. 864 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: Did they bake you beans and toast? 865 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 4: No? 866 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 3: They really nice fish. 867 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 2: No, it was actually pretty good, pretty good beans and toast. 868 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 4: I asked Lisa if there was a reason why my 869 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 4: husband wasn't invited and why I was told there was 870 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 4: no plus ones if every other attendee had and guest 871 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 4: on their RSVP, and numerous couples were invited. In fact, 872 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 4: multiple kids were there as well, much younger than my 873 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 4: daughter Lucy. I asked if theyse had something to do 874 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 4: with the fact we were an LGBT couple. Lisa acted 875 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 4: defended this accusation and stated, that's not why Dean or 876 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 4: Lucy wasn't invited. 877 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 2: All right, let's see you cover your booties on this one. 878 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 2: I'm so excited for this excuse. I'm almost sure that 879 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: it is subtle homophobia or not so subtle homophobia, but 880 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to see what they come up with. 881 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 4: I asked why, because at first glance, this appears to 882 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 4: be quite offensive, and asked why my husband and my 883 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 4: daughter were singled out. 884 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: Is the daughter also? 885 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 4: Uh no, but just like the child g okay, so undetermined, 886 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 4: No yet, just a child. We don't know yet. 887 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a it's like atomic or like a 888 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 2: Pokemon They get you like a Pokemon set you don't want, 889 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 2: you're gonna. 890 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 3: Rip yet we don't know what the evolution is. 891 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know what the evolution is. 892 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 4: Lisa explained that our family wouldn't fit the. 893 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 2: Aesthetic that is even worse. What aesthetic? 894 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 4: Why did you think that would sound better? 895 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 2: Yes? Oh no, no, no, we're not homophobic. It's just like ill, 896 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: just ill. 897 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 4: My blood boils as I even write this. I asked 898 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 4: why my family wouldn't match an aesthetic on a day 899 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 4: meant to celebrate love, and stated that I felt like 900 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 4: my family was singled out for being LGBT. Lisa explained 901 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 4: to me that we weren't singled out because we were LGBT, 902 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 4: but because Dean and Lucy are death. 903 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: Oh Lucy's death too. 904 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it's because whenever it's genetic. 905 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 2: Ah, I see all right, really quick? You got you? 906 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: You should have? Am I being lied to right now? 907 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 4: Yes? Because they're they're. 908 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: J with a G it's a gay cobble unless it's. 909 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 2: Too good, you got me? 910 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 4: Unless they use dean sperm. 911 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. They could have you. They could have 912 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 2: used the swirl method. You know, you could turn sperm 913 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: into eggs these days and eggs and the sperm. 914 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 3: Sperm and eggs. 915 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 2: Yep, it's it's true. 916 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: Who would carry it? 917 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 2: Who would carry it? 918 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 3: They would have a surrogate. 919 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 2: Surrogate, So no, thank you, you got you good. 920 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: You could, but you don't have to think. 921 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: You don't have to. Yeah, you don't have to. Yeah, 922 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 2: you have the option to. Wait, I had a thought. 923 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, saying you don't fit the aesthetic because 924 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 2: you're deaf is the worst excuse ever. You should say 925 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 2: you don't fit like the OMBI what's the what's the 926 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 2: word that sound? Yeah, sorry, you don't quite fit our orchestra. 927 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 4: That is crazy because presumable, like we don't know for sure. 928 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 2: The audacity, Yeah, get it, because it's because it's audio. 929 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 4: We don't know for sure. But they haven't mentioned him 930 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 4: wearing like a hearing aid. Oh no, but they haven't 931 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 4: mentioned it, So I like, I'm under the impression that 932 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 4: he does not wear a hearing aid, which. 933 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 2: Kind of metal. 934 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 4: Well, in which case, what about him doesn't fit the aesthetic? 935 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 4: He just looks like a guy. 936 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he's ugly, I think, yeah, sorry, because he's do. 937 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just ableism. 938 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: Wow, I think maybe the words we're looking for is acoustic, ortic, acousticonic. 939 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 2: You don't Yeah, you don't fit our phonic profile. 940 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: Hey, it's smiley Ryley here from Okay storytime. We're going 941 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,919 Speaker 1: to get back to these stories, but here's three minutes 942 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: worth of ads from our sponsors. 943 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 4: I asked what that meant, and Lisa explained that they 944 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 4: felt having an ASL interpreter upfront would take away from 945 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 4: the aesthetic of the ceremony and distract the guest. To 946 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 4: do that, they felt that having an ASL interpreter upfront 947 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 4: would take away from the aesthetic of the ceremony and 948 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 4: distract the guests. 949 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 2: Why did they think they did that. 950 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 4: It's like, I didn't need it. 951 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: Is that offensive? I don't know if he actually knows 952 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 2: ASL just. 953 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 4: A little bit. 954 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 955 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 4: Will you marry me? I could? I could spell it 956 00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 4: out M A R R Y or ryell? 957 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: Do they have to be upfront if they know there's 958 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 1: only one deaf person? Couldn't they just sit inside of them? 959 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 4: They wouldn't have to be upfront, but they would have 960 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 4: to be in a place where, like, they couldn't just 961 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 4: be like doing this. You want them in a place 962 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 4: visible so that you can see both the ceremony. It's 963 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 4: like with subtitles, hear. 964 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: Me out, hear me out. But I'm facing this way, 965 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: person's right in front of me. It's like flipped that 966 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: way and then I could see them and that at 967 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: the boom boom boom. 968 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 4: Well, the crazy thing to me is, yes, it would 969 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 4: have been really nice if they had an ASSL interpreter. 970 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 4: But Op didn't you know, do you didn't ask for one. 971 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 4: No one asked for one. If anything, if you know, 972 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 4: Op's partner wanted to know what was going on, I'm 973 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 4: sure Op knows ASSL. Yeah, you know, well I guess, oh, 974 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 4: he's going to be up there because they're part of 975 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 4: the way. 976 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Op, he's just like the. 977 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 4: Oh, p's the. 978 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: That's crazy phones those days you can get some subscriptions 979 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: US translation. 980 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 4: That feels like such a cop out when neither of 981 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 4: the people that would need the interpreter asked for an interpreter. Yeah, 982 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 4: to be like, well, that's why we didn't invite them. 983 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: Sorry, we were trying to be so inclusive that we 984 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 2: couldn't be include. 985 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: We couldn't be Yeah, you could just pull up Google 986 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: meets or otter meats. 987 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true, dude. Actually so so some of our 988 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 2: editing team speaks Spanish. They speak Spanish to me in 989 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,479 Speaker 2: the call and it comes out English. Whoa, it's awesome. Yeah, 990 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 2: And I'll speak Spanish, but I'll speak English back and 991 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 2: I'll go and translate my voice Spanish and it will 992 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 2: be in the tone and so like it'll be like 993 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 2: like Santiago will talk to me in Spanish and like 994 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,720 Speaker 2: I feel like when he was trying to talk in English, 995 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 2: like I don't speak great Spanish. He doesn't speak great, 996 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 2: great English, but he'll be able to be so eloquent 997 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 2: in Spanish and it will translate it like because we're 998 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 2: talking about like edits and stuff, and will translate it perfectly. 999 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 2: So like you're telling me, there's not like some phone 1000 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 2: app that you could get probably could Wilson Luciato, Okay, 1001 00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 2: sorry Wilson. 1002 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you trying to say, like my name is. 1003 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: It's the movie with Tom Hanks. 1004 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 2: Wilson. 1005 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's a Spanish version and it's like luc Wilson. 1006 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 2: It's very sorry Wilson, Yeah, I remember that, Okay. Yeah. 1007 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 4: She also said that it would be awkward for everyone 1008 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 4: involved because no one knows asl awkward and she commented, 1009 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 4: and I quote here, Plus, it would look very weird 1010 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 4: if people saw you and Dean throwing your hand signals 1011 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 4: to each other. 1012 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 2: You know what, I got a little hand signal for you. 1013 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 2: Boom one boom. 1014 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 4: That's called. 1015 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 2: Al. 1016 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. I would immediately, I would immediately end. No A 1017 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 4: s O would be this f off. 1018 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 2: That's it off. 1019 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 4: This is thank you, this is a double off. This 1020 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 4: is this means rude, like you're rude, this means cute. 1021 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 4: I'm just telling you all the signs. 1022 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: Anyway, Okay, you're just gonna only see one hand. 1023 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 2: Motion boom boom yo. 1024 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:10,439 Speaker 4: I think wow. I thanked Lisa for honesty and said, 1025 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 4: my husband's not an aesthetic choice and that our communication 1026 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 4: is not throwing hand signals. I told Lisa that I 1027 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 4: wish her the best, but that her insensitivity doesn't match 1028 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 4: my aesthetic boom boom, and left the conversation noise, mic drop. 1029 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 4: I called Nate this morning to discuss my conversation after 1030 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 4: I cooled down, and Nate explained that it was Lisa's 1031 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 4: big day, so she was entitled to make those decisions. 1032 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 4: She sure is entitled regardless of agreed with it. 1033 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 2: Bird, Did you hear what Sophia just said. She said 1034 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 2: she was entitled and she was. 1035 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 4: Just to be clear, Nate said, she's entitled to make 1036 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 4: those decisions regardless of whether he agreed with it. She's 1037 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 4: your wife, dude, you're supposed to be partners. 1038 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also your day exactly. 1039 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 4: You're marrying someone who thinks this. I asked Nate, well, 1040 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 4: do you agree with that decision? And Nate explained that 1041 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 4: it would have been expensive hired interpreter, and then it 1042 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 4: might have been awkward for other guests and for Dean 1043 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 4: if he can't communicate. I stated, Dean can communicate just fine. 1044 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 4: He has an fing PhD in economics. 1045 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 2: Let's go. 1046 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 4: I don't know how that relates. 1047 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 2: He can communicate the market. 1048 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 4: He just starts talking about Yeah, yeah. 1049 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 2: Let me communicate about about some economics right here, the 1050 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 2: economics of our friendship. Everybody irish economics of this wedding bearish, 1051 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 2: the economics of of me and my man's leaving bullish economics. 1052 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 4: Everyone at the wedding party is like, I didn't quite 1053 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 4: you know, have a We didn't know how to communicate, 1054 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 4: but I did learn a lot about the lafty curve, 1055 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 4: About the lofty curve. 1056 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: It would have been expensive to heaven just speaking graphs. 1057 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 2: Wait, is the lofty curve the thing where it goes 1058 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 2: laffy curve is a thing where like. 1059 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 3: The it's the idea that's the. 1060 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 2: Thing that is when the yield curve flips or something. 1061 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 4: So it's the idea that was introduced. H Well, Bush, 1062 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 4: actually he tried to do it, but I think it 1063 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 4: was first introduced by Reagan. It was the idea that 1064 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 4: you can lower taxes and raise spending and still balance 1065 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 4: the budget, which doesn't make sense and is not true. 1066 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 4: But Reagan was like, yeah, we're gonna balance the budget, 1067 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 4: lower taxes, raise spending. It's gonna work out great and 1068 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 4: work and then it did not work out great, and 1069 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 4: then Bush was like, run it back. Yeah, anyway. Nate 1070 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 4: only replied, you know what I mean? I said, no, 1071 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 4: I don't. I told Nate I wasn't interested in continuing 1072 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 4: this friendship if he doesn't show me the same respect 1073 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 4: that I show him. 1074 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 2: Mmm. 1075 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 4: I told Dean what happened, and Dean told me I 1076 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 4: shouldn't have said anything, and that it wasn't worth losing 1077 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,320 Speaker 4: a friendship over attending a wedding he didn't want to 1078 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 4: go to. Anyway. I think that is absolutely worth losing 1079 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,919 Speaker 4: a friendship. Ok, yeah, I stated it was more about 1080 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 4: the disrespect to my family. I spoke to multiple friends 1081 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 4: and they agreed that Nate was wrong and that he 1082 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 4: was deflecting the decision to Lisa so he didn't look bad. 1083 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 4: I guess my question is, would you end a friendship 1084 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 4: over this? One hundred percent? 1085 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, undoubtedly, Yeah, I think you gotta. I feel like 1086 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 2: this is pretty whack. 1087 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm worried that I may have gotten heated and 1088 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 4: picked a fight or ended a friendship with Nate because 1089 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 4: of a decision his wife made that he agreed with 1090 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 4: Dean and siss. He doesn't care and would have tried 1091 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 4: to find a reason to get out of it anyway. 1092 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 4: For background, my husband is passive to a fault. I 1093 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 4: joke that someone could wap them, wap. 1094 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 2: Them the old one, toh, dourely do buckley buck buckley 1095 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 2: buck buckley buck and and he would. 1096 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 4: Still offer to drive the home after It's like you've 1097 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 4: had a really big night op in my car. I 1098 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 4: admit part of my post is also just a vent 1099 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 4: because I'm filled with such rage and I know if 1100 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 4: I posted this to my personal social media it would 1101 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 4: cause absolute chaos. There's an update Bridezilla's side. 1102 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: Who oh, wait. 1103 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 2: Wait, oh is it? 1104 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 4: Wait? 1105 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: Wait, so you're bride Lisa? Why is why would she? 1106 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 2: Why did why? Oh? She identifying as a Bridezilla or 1107 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,720 Speaker 2: something in this post? 1108 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 3: No? 1109 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 4: I think that it just that's just how we're titling 1110 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 4: at WHOA. 1111 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: We're not even halfway through. 1112 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 2: You know how much we love a two sided story 1113 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 2: because in every story there's one side and there's another side, 1114 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 2: and sometimes there's even if there's multiple people, there's there's 1115 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 2: three sides or four sides or even five sides. Do 1116 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 2: we think Bridezilla is going to be in the right 1117 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 2: or wrong? Like? I feel like, is there something that 1118 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 2: we're not getting here of why they were uninvited? My 1119 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,760 Speaker 2: theory is Bridezilla is going to make a post trying 1120 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 2: to get us over to her side, and it's going 1121 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 2: to dig her deeper into the depths of a grave. 1122 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 2: But I'm curious what you think. Nina nelsonays, I think 1123 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 2: Bridezilla is wrong, but we'll try to twist it and fail, 1124 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 2: and then she'll be a deleted user role. I can 1125 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 2: totally see that. I can totally see that. 1126 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's read the story, Let's do it. 1127 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 2: Let's do it, all right, let's do it. 1128 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: Hit it all right, we got an update. 1129 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 4: Guys, We're gonna GetUp to the update. Bridezilla aside from 1130 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 4: Dizzy Soup forty eight sixty six, longtime lurker, first time poster. 1131 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,479 Speaker 2: Whoa, that's something that Bridezilla would say. 1132 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 4: A real names because I have nothing. 1133 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: To effing ide whoa? 1134 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 4: Okay, I thirty five female, just got married to my 1135 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 4: husband Mark. So this is from Lisa's perspective. I'm going 1136 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 4: to change Mark to Nate. Okay, and then Liam is op? 1137 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,959 Speaker 4: Well Liam is Liam. 1138 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 2: We didn't know read the white board. I might need 1139 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 2: a white board at this time. 1140 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 4: I can keep track, but if Sam needs white I 1141 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 4: need a white board. 1142 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 2: My feever by needs a white board. 1143 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 4: So I'm just going to keep the names the same. 1144 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 2: But now we have to be okay, Oh, he's going 1145 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 2: to be Liam Liam? Wait? I thought Liam was? I 1146 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 2: thought was Bridezilla? Oh no original original? Yeah, so I'm 1147 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 2: going to say g O, p is Liam? 1148 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 4: Yes, all right? Uh, Nate is well, let's go. Lisa 1149 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 4: is Bridezilla. 1150 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 2: All right, Bridezillas Melsa. 1151 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 4: Nate is Lisa's husband now husband. 1152 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 2: Wait, Bridezilla, Lisa, Lisa, I'm gonna say, bhuz is Nate Nate? 1153 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1154 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 3: Uh? 1155 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 4: And then I think Dean was Op's husband, So Dean 1156 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 4: is Liam? 1157 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 2: O p Hause is Dean? What's the kid's name? 1158 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 3: I think it was Lucy? 1159 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 2: Ok kid? 1160 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 4: And I think that's everyone that matters, And if we 1161 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 4: come up to anyone else, we'll figure it out. Roam 1162 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 4: I thirty five female, just got married to my husband, 1163 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 4: Nate thirty eight male. A couple weeks ago, Nate went 1164 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 4: to grad school with Liam, who is our original Opie? 1165 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 2: Liam is original Ope? Right there, look at it. Bridezilla Lisa, 1166 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 2: Bridezilla husband, Nate Opie husband, Dean, Opie kid, Lucy beautiful 1167 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 2: a right chet. 1168 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 4: During this time, Liam got married to Dean forty male. 1169 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 4: Dean is deaf, but Liam communicates with sign language as 1170 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 4: Dean can't speak. 1171 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 2: Can't speak. 1172 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 3: Oh, this is going to be hard. 1173 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 4: Nate and Liam were close in grad school but grew 1174 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 4: apart after graduating, which Nate attributed to Liam and Dean 1175 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 4: having a child and Liam being flaky. 1176 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I met. 1177 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 4: Nate the love of my life three years ago, but 1178 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 4: never once met Liam because Liam made no attempt to 1179 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 4: meet me. Okay, because Liam and Nate were the phrase. Okay. 1180 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 4: When we were planning on our wedding, Yeah, Nate demanded 1181 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 4: Liam and Dean be invited. This was late into our 1182 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 4: planning process and many invitations had already been sent out, 1183 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 4: so we agreed to only include Liam. Before you accuse 1184 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 4: me of being closet guard, I had attracted the same 1185 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 4: gender friends in college. 1186 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 3: I had j with g friends. 1187 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 2: I gives the girl once and liked it. 1188 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 4: I cannot be closet guard. 1189 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 2: Closet guard. 1190 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 4: This has nothing to do with Liam and Dean being 1191 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 4: attracted to the same gender. Okay, However, because Dean can't hear, 1192 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 4: we would need extra accommodations. For example, an interpreter during 1193 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 4: all points of the wedding and reception. 1194 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 2: Is Dean asking for that? No, yeah, do if someone 1195 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 2: if someone who's allergic to milk comes to your wedding, 1196 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 2: you don't, like, make all of your stuff without milk. Yeah, 1197 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 2: you don't make every piece of food without milk. Maybe 1198 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 2: maybe you have a milkless option, but like, I don't 1199 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 2: think a person who can't eat milk has shown up 1200 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 2: to your wedding demanding milkless products. 1201 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 4: I don't think they really are noles, Like how are 1202 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 4: other guests supposed to talk with them? You have immediately yourself? 1203 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 2: You have immediately yourself. That was so quick, That was 1204 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 2: so like, how could anyone talk to this guy? 1205 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? No one else knows the signs, so I'm sure 1206 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 4: it would be weird for everyone involved. Oh so hard, 1207 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 4: you suck so hard immediately. I don't know how much 1208 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 4: an interpreter would cost. But we were already having to 1209 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,440 Speaker 4: make cuts to decoration and even delayed our honeymoon, So 1210 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 4: my wedding could be perfect. 1211 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 2: Yike, the my wedding is definitely Bridezilla girl. 1212 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 4: Why did you even respond? 1213 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nina Nelson says so self centered. 1214 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, because of the we didn't allow Liam to bring 1215 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 4: any guests. 1216 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 2: If you pull up ASL forty five to one hundred dollars, 1217 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 2: but those I feel like those prices gotta go up 1218 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 2: for weddings. Everyone does the ten x wedding prices. 1219 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 4: But presumably that you only need the interpreter for maybe 1220 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 4: thirty minutes. 1221 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. True. 1222 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 4: Because of this, we didn't allow Liam to bring any guests. 1223 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 4: Liam RSVP'd in months go by without him questioning anything 1224 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 4: about this, So I assumed he understood why because your 1225 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 4: your husband lied to him. That's why during the wedding, 1226 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 4: my maid of honor pulled me aside to tell me 1227 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 4: that Liam was asking guests if they were allowed to 1228 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 4: bring guests and question why they thought his invitation didn't 1229 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 4: include a plus one. I saw Liam recently at my 1230 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 4: girlfriend's birthday party, and he confronted me about why Dean 1231 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 4: wasn't invited. 1232 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 3: He accused me of. 1233 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 4: Being closet guard. I explained that it wasn't because they 1234 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 4: were ja with a G but because Max required significant 1235 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 4: accommodations that we would not be able to provide. 1236 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 2: You're just making up the accommodation. 1237 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 4: You're making them up. 1238 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 2: To exclude them because you're uncomfortable with people who either like, 1239 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 2: like the same sex or can't hear. 1240 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, like you're just tablests. 1241 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 2: You're just able. 1242 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 4: It's so weird. 1243 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 2: You're gableist. 1244 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 4: Gableist. How will he know when to stand? Context clues 1245 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 4: maybe where he's not blind, or where. 1246 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: If you stand, it doesn't really make a noise. 1247 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 2: You need vision for that, need vision for that. 1248 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 3: I know. 1249 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, presumably she's talking about when they're like, please 1250 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 4: please rise, rise, but. 1251 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 2: You can get clues, dude, all right, I don't know 1252 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 2: if y'all have been to a Catholic mass, if you 1253 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 2: haven't been in a while, the please like no one 1254 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 2: when to rise or when to sit. It's very confusing. 1255 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm just looking at everyone else. Oh is this guy okay? Yeah, 1256 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 2: this guy's standing up. I got I better stand up now. 1257 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 4: Also, it would be just unfortunate if he couldn't dance 1258 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 4: because he couldn't hear the music. 1259 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 2: I would say, half the people at your wedding, probably 1260 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 2: we aren't on beating. Oh what, well, he won't be 1261 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:10,919 Speaker 2: on beat? 1262 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, even though people who can hear the music, 1263 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 4: I can assure you won't be dancing on beat. Also 1264 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 4: a lot of people don't dance a wedding. 1265 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 2: You can feel the music. 1266 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 4: Yes, Deaf people love very like. 1267 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Bass, heavy base heavy music. 1268 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean that's just like, that's not me 1269 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 4: saying that's a lot of deaf people say. 1270 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 2: It's a lot of Yeah. 1271 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't think they're saying that. 1272 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 2: They're saying they're signing it. 1273 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 4: They're signing it. 1274 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1275 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 4: Also, it would be just unfortunate if he couldn't dance 1276 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 4: because he can't hear the music. Liam got angry and 1277 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 4: accused me of being insensitive, accused, I think I love him. 1278 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 2: People are so bad that their defense makes them. 1279 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 3: Seem Yes, you know, it's so obvious. 1280 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 2: It's so obvious. 1281 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 4: He wouldn't look at me the rest of the night, 1282 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 4: And honestly I didn't care. I don't know him from Adam. 1283 01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 3: Who's Adam? 1284 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 2: That's just insame. Oh, I don't know from Adam, you know. 1285 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 3: But I won't have someone accuse me of. 1286 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 4: Being in. 1287 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 2: Also, wait, Christina, the Greek says, actually, ever heard of 1288 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 2: Beethoven making bangers with the horn at his ear? 1289 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. 1290 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 2: Show the horn. 1291 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 4: Also the the movie Sound of Metal drummer, who goes. 1292 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 2: That's not Beethoven, but it is. 1293 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 4: That's a that's aven Beabethoven's horn. 1294 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 2: That one. 1295 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, well no he had to. 1296 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah that Oh is your horn? His ear horn? 1297 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 4: Is that just a horn? 1298 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Ear horn? 1299 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, there there you go. 1300 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 2: He had a bunch of different horns for for hearing. 1301 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 4: Honestly, y'all should look up the progression. 1302 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 2: Of Beethoven's horns. 1303 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 3: Let me see what thing, Sophia, what is my one sentence? 1304 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 4: You should look up the progression of like hearing hearing 1305 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:57,919 Speaker 4: aids because it's really cool. 1306 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll pull that up after this story. 1307 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 4: Um, but I won't have someone accuse me of being 1308 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 4: insensitive or trying to take away my perfect wedding. Nate 1309 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 4: called Liam and confronted him about how inappropriate it was. 1310 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 4: Nate had my back and reinforced that we couldn't make 1311 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 4: special accommodations for everything and everyone, but Liam refused to 1312 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 4: hear it. Oh just like his husband. 1313 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 2: Oh. 1314 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 4: Nate told me that I am not wrong, but I 1315 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 4: could have worded my concerns better. He's like you sounded 1316 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 4: like a real ale. My maid of honor on the 1317 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 4: other end, said I was correct, and when I did, oh, 1318 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 4: you've got a little a little uh, I was thinking 1319 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 4: a little henchman. 1320 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, worm tongue. 1321 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you must do these mess He's trying to steal 1322 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 4: your power. And showed compassion by being honest rather than 1323 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 4: beating around the bush. And that Liam and Dean need 1324 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 4: to stop thinking the world caters to them, but you 1325 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 4: think it caters to you. 1326 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1327 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 4: Brian'silla comment with the actual a f Liam, did you 1328 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 4: really think making a post read it about this was appropriate? 1329 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 4: This is Lisa and it's oh what did she post? 1330 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 4: Separate to him. I thought she found his post and 1331 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 4: then posted. I think she posted separate and then found 1332 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 4: his post. Oh, so they just both posted on Reddit 1333 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 4: about the situation. 1334 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 2: So it's now is she now responding. 1335 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 4: Yes to oh? 1336 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: I think? 1337 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 4: I think this is Lisa, and it's important that you 1338 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 4: hear all sides of this story. First, f you, Liam, 1339 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 4: Nate wasn't going to invite you, but I encouraged him 1340 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 4: to because you complained about losing touch with people. But 1341 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 4: that's because you and Dean don't put on any effort 1342 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 4: into staying connected. Secondly, we are very tolerant, and I 1343 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 4: object to the criticism I see here that we excluded 1344 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 4: them because they were J with a G a J. 1345 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 4: I have plenty of attractive the same gender friends, but 1346 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 4: no death friends. Clearly. Third, you don't have the right 1347 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 4: to judge decisions I make about my my day. This 1348 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 4: isn't your decision about fifty day. 1349 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 2: I hate the my The my day just tells me. 1350 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 2: If she just said I don't care we have to 1351 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 2: say about my day? That tells me everything I need 1352 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 2: to know. 1353 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 4: And Nate's probably behind her being like, yes, Dale, what 1354 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 4: what you want do? This isn't your decision about who 1355 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 4: I do or don't include. Our wedding had over one 1356 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 4: hundred people. I know others didn't bring their spouse or kids, 1357 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 4: but we can't make accommodations for everything and everyone everything. 1358 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 4: I am sorry you're jealous that your wedding only had 1359 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,439 Speaker 4: twenty people. Oh oh, she. 1360 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 2: Sucks, She sucks. I would rather have twenty people at 1361 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 2: my wedding but actually liked me. I actually like me 1362 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 2: than a bunch of people that know I'm a raging looney. 1363 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 4: But don't feel you know, can't be brave enough to 1364 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 4: actually tell me that. 1365 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 2: Yes. 1366 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 4: Oh, Also, do you remember how you asked multiple people 1367 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 4: at the wedding if they had a guest invited on 1368 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 4: their RSVP. That's not only inappropriate, it's that thing weird. 1369 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 4: It's something weird to not invite someone because they're deaf. 1370 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, and J with the G and J with 1371 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 2: the G and uh is it kill A twenty two 1372 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 2: or Silla twenty two? Kila all right, because kill A 1373 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 2: twenty two is cool too, but Stilla twenty two says 1374 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 2: it's not even our day, it's my day. Yeah. 1375 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 4: Over and over, you asked at least five people who 1376 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 4: told me you were trying to start drama, wondering why 1377 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 4: Dean wasn't invited. I'm sorry, Dean's deaf, not a proper 1378 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 4: now by the way. 1379 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 2: Are you wow? 1380 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 4: By the way, there's a difference between like deaf culturally 1381 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 4: and deaf just now crazy, wow, sit down, capitalize it. 1382 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 4: There is a difference, Lisa. 1383 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 2: Oh right, Christina the Greek says, please read a comment 1384 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 2: where she gets torn. 1385 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure she gets torn apart. 1386 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 2: Here, Riley, can you read what can you find? Comments? 1387 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I imagine it's you don't even have to 1388 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,160 Speaker 4: find them. They're all there. But the world doesn't revolve 1389 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 4: around him or you like it. Just it's so obvious 1390 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 4: to me that this woman knows literally nothing about deaf 1391 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 4: culture or anything. Interpreters are expensive. You said you don't 1392 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 4: know how much they cost. You did not look that up. Yeah, 1393 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 4: and having them next to the priest or us saying 1394 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 4: our vows would absolutely distract from my day. You all 1395 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 4: are so quick to pass judgment. But it was my 1396 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 4: wedding and it was a beautiful occasion. I'm sorry. We 1397 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 4: can't bend over backwards for a couple that makes an 1398 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 4: effort to reach out. Only when the season changes. 1399 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 2: That's such a funny way to say. A couple of 1400 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 2: times a year. Yeah, when the season changes, then finally 1401 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 2: you reach out to us. 1402 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,919 Speaker 4: When the first leaf falls, they finally reach out. One 1403 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 4: last thing. You know why you never met me prior 1404 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 4: to the wedding because you never invited me. I'm not 1405 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 4: accusing you of excluding me because I'm a woman. If 1406 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 4: you liam don't contact us again, I don't think you're 1407 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 4: gonna have to worry. 1408 01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 2: About Oh man, and Op replies, this is so drama. Oh, 1409 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 2: this is so drama. I feel like we know this. 1410 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,439 Speaker 2: This this woman is a bridezilla, bridezilla through and through. 1411 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 4: Do you think that she's going to read these comments 1412 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 4: and realize the error of her ways and repent. 1413 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 2: I feel like this is someone who responds to every 1414 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,640 Speaker 2: comment being like you're totally wrong, I like, just absolutely 1415 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:25,839 Speaker 2: going to battle. 1416 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree. I think that she responded. I think 1417 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 4: she took hours out of her time. I think she's 1418 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 4: on her honeymoon. 1419 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is her ideal honeymoon. Yeah, getting 1420 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,679 Speaker 2: absolutely blasted on the internet and then fighting for her life. 1421 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:45,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, but let's read these comments, Op original Ope comments. 1422 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 2: We gotta change the voice. 1423 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,679 Speaker 4: Hello, everyone. I woke up and read through so many comments, 1424 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 4: and I'm so thankful to hear everyone's thoughts. I feel 1425 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 4: so validated, And to be clear, this is Liam. While 1426 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 4: I am still angry, I feel much much better. One 1427 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 4: thing I did think about until now is that Nate 1428 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 4: and Dean have known each other for almost as long 1429 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 4: as I've been together with Dean ten years. Whoa, and 1430 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 4: he didn't invite him to the wedding. 1431 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1432 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 4: And Nate has never learned a single sign that is 1433 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 4: honestly really quick pause. That is such a red flag 1434 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,640 Speaker 4: to me to have a friend. 1435 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,719 Speaker 2: I would go straight from a yellow to a red flag. 1436 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, very nice, very nice, Uh, very nice? That is yellow? 1437 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah boom. 1438 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 4: I think there should be an effort if you have 1439 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 4: a deaf friend or a deaf person in your life, 1440 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 4: you should absolutely be making an effort to at least 1441 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 4: be conversational in the language that this person speaks. 1442 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 2: I really conversational is hard, but like at least like 1443 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 2: a couple. 1444 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 4: I think you if you have a deaf person in 1445 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 4: your life, I think you should be at least conversational. 1446 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Conversational like what do you mean? What does conversational mean? 1447 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 2: Like you can have a conversation, have a conversation. 1448 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 4: What did you do? 1449 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't have I'm so bad languages like that. Yeah, 1450 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 2: I mean I could do that. 1451 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 1: That that I think that, Yeah, at least that I 1452 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,600 Speaker 1: will be honest, I'm not conversational. 1453 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,559 Speaker 2: How far does this go? All? Right? Come on? Stas 1454 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 2: might be en YouTube. 1455 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:20,720 Speaker 1: See I don't I feel like that. That just kind 1456 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 1: of breaks the barrier. 1457 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 4: Then you have a big cat in your pants? 1458 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 1: Yes, uh, el fuego? 1459 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 4: Okay? 1460 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:38,680 Speaker 2: Well, I personally think three me, pantalones, s uh, and 1461 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,639 Speaker 2: grand casa. 1462 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 4: Anyway, Christiana the Greek says, I had a niece who 1463 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,600 Speaker 4: had speech today. We learned signs so and she she 1464 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 4: only needed it. 1465 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 3: Wait what I think? 1466 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 4: Basically saying we learned sign for it was very easy 1467 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:54,919 Speaker 4: to learn the basics. 1468 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 2: Me says, how did you say? I have survived the 1469 01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 2: pants sam Luckily I didn't have to speak much Spanish 1470 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:01,679 Speaker 2: in Japan. 1471 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 4: I personally think that you should start learning. If you 1472 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 4: have a deaf friend or a deaf person in your life, 1473 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,040 Speaker 4: you should start learning sign language. You don't have to 1474 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 4: be fluent in it, but you should start learning it, 1475 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,759 Speaker 4: and you should work to get some level of fluency. 1476 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 4: You don't have to be the best person in the 1477 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,680 Speaker 4: world at it. Yeah, but I think if you have 1478 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 4: people in your life that can only communicate a certain way, 1479 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 4: you should make an effort to communicate with them. And 1480 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,800 Speaker 4: the fact that there was no level of that after 1481 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 4: ten years, yeah gross. He doesn't even sign thank you 1482 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 4: or how are you, both of which are simple signs 1483 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,760 Speaker 4: to learn. Thank you not that art. I now think 1484 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,160 Speaker 4: that he put zero effort into our friendship, so I 1485 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 4: don't feel so bad about not reaching out as much 1486 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,600 Speaker 4: as I could of. As far as posting this to 1487 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 4: my social media, I will not because my husband doesn't 1488 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,080 Speaker 4: like high visibility and would not want to be involved 1489 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 4: in drama of any kind. You don't need to boast 1490 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 4: this to your social media. 1491 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 2: That is, I feel it. It's asking for ya drama. 1492 01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:58,680 Speaker 1: We'll do it for you. 1493 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 4: We'll post it all of our social medias. I'm also 1494 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,719 Speaker 4: not sure he wants to be played off as a victim. 1495 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 4: I also see that Lisa decided to comment on this post. 1496 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 4: We have nothing to say to you other than I 1497 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 4: truly wish you to the best. I hope others show 1498 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 4: you compassion and love that you denied my family. 1499 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 2: Oh polite burn. 1500 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got another comment from op. But do you 1501 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 4: have any final thoughts on this story? 1502 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 2: I feel like we were right. We knew Bridezilla is 1503 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,799 Speaker 2: going to be a Bridezilla op is chilling. I would 1504 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,200 Speaker 2: love to hear one comment after we finish up of like, 1505 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 2: what what was said to Bridezilla? I want to I 1506 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 2: want to hear the comments that are tearing her apart. 1507 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 2: Gotta I gotta know what people are saying. 1508 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, this was posted on a competitors subreddit. 1509 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 3: Oh but we got a little bit left. 1510 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so you were You were right, Sophia. They both 1511 01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,160 Speaker 1: posted on two different accounts, not because one respect to 1512 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 1: the other, but just separately, which is crazy. 1513 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,799 Speaker 4: Hello again, I have received so many kind and thoughtful messages, 1514 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 4: both on this post and through DMS, and wanted to 1515 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 4: thank everyone. I no longer feel angry, just pity towards Lisa. 1516 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 4: I want to answer a few questions people have messaged me. 1517 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,600 Speaker 4: I am aware that Lisa has posted her side to 1518 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 4: the story. I haven't read the post, and I won't 1519 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 4: because while I clearly live rent free in her head, 1520 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 4: she won't live rent free in mind. I mean you 1521 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 4: don't need to, you already lived it. If my husband 1522 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,799 Speaker 4: were to have attended, while an interpreter would be nice, 1523 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 4: it's not needed as I am fluent in ASL and 1524 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,639 Speaker 4: am completely capable of interpreting for him. I will say 1525 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,559 Speaker 4: I did ask people at the wedding if other people 1526 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,800 Speaker 4: out a plus one. I don't think I was aggressive, 1527 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 4: but it may not have been the best timing for me, 1528 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 4: and I realized that no, it was the best timing 1529 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,759 Speaker 4: because this girl sucks put her on last he does. 1530 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 4: That was a mistake on my part, and I will 1531 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,920 Speaker 4: own up to it. I am also aware that Lisa 1532 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 4: has given everyone's real names whoa except her own WHOA. 1533 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,480 Speaker 2: Well, Lisa's sucks. 1534 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 4: Lisa, you stupid. That's why everyone was able to find 1535 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,280 Speaker 4: your posts. Oo. I will not give her a real 1536 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,719 Speaker 4: name and nope, he's the bigger person. Also, one person 1537 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 4: sent me a LinkedIn profile asking if it was my husband. 1538 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 4: It wasn't, thank god, but please please please stop trying 1539 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 4: to find her actual profiles. I've debated deleting this post, 1540 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,000 Speaker 4: but unfortunately our real names are on Lisa's. Thank god. 1541 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,600 Speaker 4: My daughter was left out, probably because she doesn't know 1542 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 4: her name. Thanks again for all the kind comments. And 1543 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,160 Speaker 4: that is the end of this story. 1544 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,679 Speaker 2: Wow, what a crazy, yeah, double sided story. I love 1545 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 2: a two sider. 1546 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,720 Speaker 4: I mean that could be an episode in and of itself. 1547 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 2: That it could that it could long enough. 1548 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 1: So this is off of Bridezilla's post. Yeah, the reddit, 1549 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 1: you excluded someone because of their disability. You're the ahole. 1550 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:57,760 Speaker 1: I assume you know that. 1551 01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1552 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Plus, like Howard, the other guests supposed to talk 1553 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,160 Speaker 1: with him, no one else knows signs, so I'm sure 1554 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 1: it would be weird for everyone involved. 1555 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 2: You're the ah like almost a thousand up votes. 1556 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty fast that. 1557 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,960 Speaker 1: You aren't homophobic, but that you're ablest you're the ale. 1558 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I mean enough enough sad, but I believe 1559 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,560 Speaker 2: that is enough for us to say for this episode. 1560 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: It sure yes sean fun fact. Lisa deleted her post, 1561 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,479 Speaker 1: so soccer shocker it can't find it. 1562 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,959 Speaker 4: Are we reading comments? 1563 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 1: We can, yes, but we got. 1564 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,559 Speaker 4: Some comments from the video. My boyfriend pressured me into 1565 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,639 Speaker 4: a threesome. Now he's jealous. And this was posted May first, 1566 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. The TLDR comes from story one Op's 1567 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,760 Speaker 4: boyfriend begged her for a treesome for months, so she 1568 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,360 Speaker 4: finally said yes and picked a sweet girl from her 1569 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 4: class to join them. The night went great for OP. 1570 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 4: Maybe a little too great because now our boyfriend is 1571 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 4: furious and demanding she drops out of school just to 1572 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 4: avoid the other girl. But here's the twist nobody saw coming. 1573 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 4: Oh P is starting to realize some big feelings of 1574 01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 4: her own, and her boyfriend's reaction might reveal who he 1575 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 4: really is. Did she stay with the guys she's been 1576 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 4: with for four years or did she follow her heart 1577 01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 4: somewhere unexpected. If you're curious to know the full story, 1578 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 4: you can go watch the full video and we've got 1579 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:20,800 Speaker 4: some comments. 1580 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:21,479 Speaker 2: Hear them. 1581 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 1: High A five two thirty five says, oh P is 1582 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 1: cheating the moment she talks to the girl beyond the 1583 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,320 Speaker 1: three way Reezy Lowi says, are they in the same class? 1584 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,040 Speaker 1: Ghost Love says, but she's talking to her outside of class, 1585 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 1: which is the issue. 1586 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 4: I mean, yes, I can see if you have you know, 1587 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,639 Speaker 4: if you have made it clear, Hey, this is boundary. 1588 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 4: We don't want to have any emotional attachment. Yeah. I 1589 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,599 Speaker 4: guess it just depends on how how clear you are, 1590 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,639 Speaker 4: because I think you need to be so straightforward and clear. 1591 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 4: When yeah, yes, I'm sort of open or you. 1592 01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 2: Know, just inviting another person into your relationship, you better 1593 01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,040 Speaker 2: make sure those boundaries. 1594 01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 4: Are christ agreed. 1595 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 1: A window seventy says, oh he did get emotionally attached 1596 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,320 Speaker 1: to the girls. Starting a relationship which started with spicy 1597 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:09,719 Speaker 1: sleep is risky. 1598 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, inviting anyone che relationship is risky, but 1599 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:14,840 Speaker 2: anyone else is risky. 1600 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:16,240 Speaker 4: Is there more comments? 1601 01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:17,479 Speaker 2: No? Ending this episode? 1602 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 1: There are more comments? Oh near mind, Yes, bridget Fritz 1603 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,719 Speaker 1: General says, oh, that's not cool. Trash talking someone's yum 1604 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 1: because you think it's yuck while also turning their interest 1605 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,840 Speaker 1: in you to gossipy shame. 1606 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,760 Speaker 2: Tisk tis tisk. 1607 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,800 Speaker 1: One more from Simon roll I just love when a 1608 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,840 Speaker 1: guy forcing a three party of three falls on his 1609 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 1: sword because he causes on demise with greed. You throw 1610 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 1: the love away the second you force a party of 1611 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,320 Speaker 1: three and expect them to see you the same. Nah, 1612 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,759 Speaker 1: it's not sacred any longer. You can get dropped anytime. 1613 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 2: It definitely makes it more complicated, it sure does. 1614 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,200 Speaker 4: But we're not going to complicate it any longer. That's 1615 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 4: the end of the episode. See you so if you 1616 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:06,840 Speaker 4: love us make sure subscribe. 1617 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow.