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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Monday initiative Texans All Access from Monday

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Speaker 2: Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, Jean Harris, alongside the

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Speaker 2: Voice of the Texans Mark Vandermiir Mark.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing today, Johnny? I'm doing great.

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Speaker 3: Great weekend, fun weather, fantastic and rodeo great except for

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Speaker 3: the Journey concert.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, what a bummer. Yeah, that was a bummer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was uh.

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Speaker 3: I mean I saw the videos and it was just

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Speaker 3: don't stop. Oh they never got to that part.

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Speaker 1: They did a sopranos ending at the Rodeo. I saw

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Speaker 1: Sean's video.

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Speaker 3: Sean had the best outlook on this, and I like

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Speaker 3: to look at a lot of things like this. Hey,

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Speaker 3: you got a good story out of it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you got a good story out You'll always be able

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Speaker 3: to say you were there, talk about it.

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Speaker 1: It's unique.

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Speaker 3: And they were referencing let's see the Super Bowl between

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Speaker 3: the Saints and the Ravens when the lights went.

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Speaker 2: Out Ravens Niners in New Orleans? Did I say the

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Speaker 2: Saints in New Orleans?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, New Orleans because my mind was already thinking right

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Speaker 3: to the next thing, Yeah, which was and I don't

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Speaker 3: think Seth brought this up, because I must have left

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Speaker 3: the conversation at some point. I don't think he brought

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Speaker 3: it up. We had that in r G once where

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Speaker 3: the lights went out, everything went out.

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Speaker 1: Where was that.

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Speaker 3: Opening day two thousand and four, the Houston Texans versus

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Speaker 3: Drew Brees and the San Diego Chargers, And some listeners

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Speaker 3: listening right now are saying, Oh, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: It happened in the second half.

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Speaker 3: It was a day game, but all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: in the second half, the whole stadium goes out, All

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Speaker 3: the power goes out, but it's light The franchise, third

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Speaker 3: year the franchise. Wow, the whole thing just goes and

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Speaker 3: it's light out. It's a day game. You know, the

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Speaker 3: roof is closed. It's hot, it's September, but the roof

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Speaker 3: is closed, and yet you can see everything. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you knew everything went out, all the power went out,

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Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, oh, but we could go on the No,

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Speaker 3: we can't go on the air. Nothing's working, not even

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Speaker 3: the phones. Couldn't nut out, couldn't get out, so you

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Speaker 3: had to wait.

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Speaker 1: It only took a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: Everything booted back up or whatever you'd call it in

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Speaker 3: those days. Two thousand and four, and we got going again.

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Speaker 3: We played the rest of the game. But I've had

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Speaker 3: that happen there. I had that happen once a UMass

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Speaker 3: where the lights went out in the in the arena,

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Speaker 3: a night game, of course, and there was nothing, no

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Speaker 3: generators know nothing, and the TV video guys had little

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Speaker 3: lights on their cameras and they were shining them in

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Speaker 3: the crowd so everybody could make their way out. Yeah that,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was interesting. So I've been in

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Speaker 3: a few of those situations. But everybody apparently got out

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Speaker 3: safely from the Journey show and people were joking, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they really need a new stadium because look, and I

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Speaker 3: don't think.

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Speaker 1: That really cores here.

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Speaker 3: This is the rodeo, that's the stage that we don't

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Speaker 3: really use that for Texans games. Folks don't use those

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Speaker 3: video boards, don't use that stage, don't use any of

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Speaker 3: that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, but ten years after that, two thousand and four,

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Speaker 2: we had our power go out. And that's right, my

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Speaker 2: first game down on the sidelines four our power went out.

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Speaker 2: It was the freakiest thing ever. But not in this

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Speaker 2: the entire the stadium is going. It was our booth.

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Speaker 2: It was a horrible thunderstorm.

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Speaker 1: I behaved badly. You behaved awesomely. I was so like.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yes, because Market told.

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Speaker 2: Me prior to that in the regular season. Mark knows

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Speaker 2: I've got a little bit of a temper. He goes, oh,

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Speaker 2: I've got that club in my back too. I'm like, yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: your the voice of the Texans. You're the most calm,

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Speaker 2: cool person I've ever seen. And then our power went

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Speaker 2: out and I was like, oh, I love this.

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Speaker 1: This is so fantastic. Andre was so quiet. It's so funny.

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Speaker 3: Whenever I lose it, which is only having a handful

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Speaker 3: of times in our history, Andre gets real quiet.

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Speaker 1: He's like, the best part was let me go.

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Speaker 2: He's like, so, it's like in the third quarter playing

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Speaker 1: And I thought, Okay, this is weird.

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Speaker 2: And I had just come from a radio station where

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Speaker 2: our dropping off the air was commonplace, so I'm just like, okay, whatever,

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Speaker 2: and I get pretty upset about things, and then I

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Speaker 2: heard Draco Johnny, We're off the air. It just as

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Speaker 2: plainly as he possibly could. He's like, Johnny, we're off

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Speaker 2: the air. I mean, I figured it out. But then

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Speaker 2: I heard this little snicker behind the behind what he

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Speaker 1: And I just talked. It was really kind of the

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Speaker 1: first time that we got to know each other. We

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Speaker 1: just gonna just watching the game. I was watching the

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Speaker 1: game together. I was.

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Speaker 3: It didn't take that long, I guess, and in real time,

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Speaker 3: but in broadcast time, it seems like an eternity. And

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Speaker 3: I was upset because we couldn't even dial in via

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Speaker 1: That upset me.

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Speaker 3: I said, come on, this is whatever the year was,

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Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. Look in the fifties, you could call into

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Speaker 3: the station and get on the air, man Jack, whatever

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Speaker 3: I could get on the air, get me. I actually said,

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Speaker 3: they get me the bleep on the air. You did, yes, Color.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't get us back on the air, it was

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Speaker 2: I was like, I know what you're coming with me, Okay,

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Speaker 2: follow me to freedom. So things have happened and energy,

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Speaker 2: but this one the one thing that the two things

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Speaker 2: that Sean said to me that that that struck me.

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Speaker 1: Number one, you just mentioned it. Sean was in.

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Speaker 2: The Superdome that night for the Super Bowl, so only

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Speaker 2: super Bowl he said he had ever been to. And

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Speaker 2: then the other thing he said was that the Journey

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Speaker 2: drummer has this fire going on next to him and

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Speaker 2: he's continuing to play him Like.

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Speaker 1: My god, what would what would it take.

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Speaker 2: To like for you to stop doing what you're doing

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Speaker 2: and go all right, this is too much.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm out of here. So he's got a fire

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, I would have been the last

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Speaker 2: note of don't stop Believing for me, like I'm out fire.

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Speaker 1: I heard sound check on Friday too. It is cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard Journey through the soundcheck and no fire

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Speaker 3: during the sound check and no fire during a sound check,

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Speaker 3: and I was worried that they might have trouble on

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Speaker 3: Saturday because you're thinking, Okay, it's the rodeo, they have resources,

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Speaker 3: But what if they need a part from.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Angleridge or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to fly that and who knows what

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Speaker 3: they need to get that thing back up. They could

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Speaker 3: jury rig something I would imagine in something that would

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Speaker 3: Who knows.

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Speaker 1: I meant to talk the audio guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, so this is inside scoop here, but not

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Speaker 3: really scoop, but here in the Hyundai Texans radio studio.

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Speaker 3: The guy's next door have a great role with audio

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Speaker 3: in the stadio. Yeah, all right, and that's their little

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Speaker 3: temporary office during the rodeo in next door. One of

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Speaker 3: the guys this classic rockers will appreciate this. One of

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Speaker 3: fog Hat.

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Speaker 1: The band fog Hat.

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Speaker 3: Now he's not one of the original members, but he

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Speaker 3: played for them in the late eighties as rhythm guitar

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Speaker 3: and sang so. I was in there the other day

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Speaker 3: and they got a couple of guitars in there, and

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Speaker 3: he's like slow ride, you know, he's doing some fog

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm officing next to the guy who played

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Speaker 3: in fog Hat. It happens here. It's a magical place

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Speaker 3: that way. It's like one constant. This is sports center

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you never know who you're going to run into.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was walking out to go get lunch

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Speaker 2: there's Xavier Hutchinson, so hutch talking for a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and and I love hutch I just think he is

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Speaker 2: He's everything. And what this they're coming around the program

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Speaker 2: is all about. They're coming around the players. I mean,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, there are a lot of tank today.

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Speaker 3: Obviously he's you know, still on the end, but he

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Speaker 3: was you know, he's ambulatory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah uh. And there were some other around too. And

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Speaker 1: I have a theory on this.

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Speaker 3: I haven't asked anybody directly yet because I like my theories.

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Speaker 1: I want to like live in mystery.

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Speaker 3: But my theory is we're about a month away from

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Speaker 3: offseason conditioning. I think this is the conditioning before the conditioning, right,

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Speaker 3: nobody wants to get into off season conditioning, not that

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Speaker 3: there's a conditioning test. It's a voluntary program, right, right, right,

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Speaker 3: there's not a test when they come in in April.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think you want to come in huffing

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Speaker 3: and puffing and out of sho not that they would anyway.

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Speaker 3: These guys never wagh not if your job's on the line. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I think about a month out they're coming in

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Speaker 3: visiting coach U Banks, strength and conditioning staff and getting

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Speaker 3: up to speed, up to snuff so they can be ready.

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Speaker 3: It used to be hit training camp in shape, right,

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Speaker 3: don't spend the whole off season out of shape, so

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Speaker 3: training camp gets you in shape.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no no.

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Speaker 3: Now it's hit off season conditioning in April in shape,

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Speaker 3: so that doesn't kill you too bad.

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Speaker 2: I have seen starters, key starters, guys there, rookies last year,

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Speaker 2: starters that have been in this building for more than

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Speaker 2: a month.

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Speaker 1: They have been in here almost every single day. And

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, no, guys got to get away. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's one of the things Hutch said. He was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I gotta wait for a little bit, which

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Speaker 2: I think all of them have to. You have to

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Speaker 2: get away for a little bit. You gotta get away,

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Speaker 2: go back home, even if you live in Houston, go

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Speaker 2: for vacation somewhere else. Just get away, decompress, come back

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Speaker 2: and then start putting in that work. And they definitely

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Speaker 2: have And I think that's that I think is And

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Speaker 2: I don't know it was this eleventh off season for

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Speaker 2: me twelve.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Bennet's building a lot during off seasons. It feels like

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Speaker 2: there are more guys here now than they have ever been.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna agree with you on that for this

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Speaker 1: time of year. This is this time of year, it's

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Speaker 1: the rodeo. We usually see nobody point. No, it's a

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Speaker 1: great point you just made.

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Speaker 3: Because the cafe, the player's cafeteria, the performance cafe, the rodeo.

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Speaker 3: You'd go in there and it was just this rodeo

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Speaker 3: And it was almost worth what Cooper did to them

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Speaker 2: He went man to man pretty much the whole day

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Speaker 2: And he doesn't say anything for himself. People get on

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, those are the guys that you want

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Speaker 1: And yeah, he doesn't say a whole heck of what,

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Speaker 2: I'm first of all, I'm glad that I feel so

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Speaker 2: You know that I was a big sting fan, jolted

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Speaker 2: And it is the perfect time to have done that.

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Speaker 2: Oh great, you knew it was going to happen somehow,

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Speaker 1: When he gets an interception.

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Speaker 3: That's strong undefeated this year, and that means so much now.

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Speaker 3: Usually when you get one pick in a game, it

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Speaker 3: I think back to the Denver one, which I still

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Speaker 1: Year when he bears, he had one, but the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins was probably the best receptuary. He took it

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Speaker 2: It's Tyreek kill, Johnny, It's Tyreek kill. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: But to me, that's there are two seminal moments.

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Speaker 2: Number one, it's the Hollywood Brown interception of three, the

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Speaker 2: I remember Dimko asked about it all week long, sting

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Speaker 2: Destroyed us in the race game, I mean ruined Christmas weekend.

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Speaker 2: And then three was that game against Miami because he's

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Speaker 2: And I always thought, we've gotten killed by Tyreek. Every

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Speaker 2: But that interception by sting to me was when you

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Speaker 3: I was so happy that, you know, big time players

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Speaker 3: Me and sting and I was there to sort of moderate,

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Speaker 3: you know, and be the point guard and lobs him

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Speaker 3: in there for him to dunk, but he just took over.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Just start talking ball. And we've talked about this. Some

441
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Speaker 3: guys don't like to talk ball, Arian, some guys don't

442
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Speaker 3: like to talk about ball, and they'll like the other

443
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Speaker 3: weird questions. Yeah, Brian, and I love that about Arian.

444
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 3: I love that about Arian Foster. But I also love

445
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Speaker 3: it about Stingley that he wants to talk about football,

446
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 3: so we want to get it to great detail about it.

447
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Speaker 3: And there's something cool about that too, And the way

448
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Speaker 3: he does it is really refreshing.

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Speaker 1: It's not coach speak.

450
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Speaker 3: He's given you something so and I know people don't

451
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Speaker 3: hear much from him.

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Speaker 1: He's not at the podium much. Whatever, It's fine.

453
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Speaker 3: Get picks get wins, break it up, breakup passes, do

454
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Speaker 3: whatever you gotta do to help the Texans win. And

455
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 3: so well deserved and mora coming Johnny. This time next

456
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Speaker 3: year we'll be talking about Will and CJ and oh boy,

457
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Speaker 3: big bills. But this is called a luxury problem. You

458
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Speaker 3: want to have these issues. Look at the Bengals, they

459
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Speaker 3: just paid two receivers and Joe Burrow already getting paid.

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Speaker 3: They it's tough. You can do it, I guess it's

461
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Speaker 3: difficult to pay everybody. And it's well, they're.

462
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Speaker 2: Gonna have basically Joe Burrow, Chasin Higgins, maybe Trey Hendrickson

463
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Speaker 2: and a bunch of rookies.

464
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's all they're gonna have money for.

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Speaker 3: That's what you gotta do.

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Speaker 1: Now.

467
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Speaker 3: As the years go by and it happens quickly, you

468
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Speaker 3: get a little more cap room, you get restructures, you

469
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Speaker 3: get situations less you can sort of add to it

470
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Speaker 3: and hopefully that works out for them.

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Speaker 1: Although it's the Bengals, they're in the AFCIT.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tough, but there are those who will tell you

473
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Speaker 3: that when you pay big time receiver, big time quarterback,

474
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Speaker 3: too many big time people, you just don't have enough

475
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Speaker 3: money for everybody. Look at that, all right, So the

476
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Speaker 3: Chiefs perennial Super Bowl participants, if not winners, who are

477
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Speaker 3: they paying quarterback, tight end.

478
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Speaker 1: Chris Joe, defensive tackle? Who else are they paying? Paying?

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Speaker 2: Well, they're gonna have to pay McDuffie soon, yeah, but

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Speaker 2: they're not. He's stilling a rookie deal, right, So phenomenal

481
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Speaker 2: that Trent McDuffie wasn't paying attention to what Sting got.

482
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Speaker 3: But they, you know, the Chiefs have managed the roster

483
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Speaker 3: very well.

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Speaker 1: Right right right? They their middle class is really good.

485
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Speaker 3: Yeah, They've been able to do it because their middle

486
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Speaker 3: class has been good. And we've talked about them a

487
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Speaker 3: number of times. They're going on the third rotation here

488
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Speaker 3: of the huge chunk of the fifty three that roster

489
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Speaker 3: since they started going to Super Bowls, right or AFC

490
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Speaker 3: Championship games, we talked about this. Look how different they

491
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Speaker 3: are from twenty nineteen. Look how different they are from

492
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty twos, right, exactly, very different, exactly. So this

493
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Speaker 3: is something every three four years, it's gonna pop, it's

494
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Speaker 3: gonna roll over, the majority of your players roll over.

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Speaker 3: Look at the Texans entering this offseason, with about twenty

496
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Speaker 3: five either unrestricted or restricted free agents. Now they've put

497
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Speaker 3: a major dent into that with the guys they've signed

498
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Speaker 3: so far. They've got more signings to do, obviously, more

499
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Speaker 3: drafting to do.

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Speaker 1: Just very very happy Derek Stingley.

501
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Speaker 2: And by the way, let me very clear about this

502
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Speaker 2: we talk about his coverabilities. One of the best things

503
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Speaker 2: about him is the fact he's an all round corner.

504
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: He tackles and plays the run as well as any

505
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Speaker 2: corner you're gonna find anywhere. And that's why I say

506
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Speaker 2: CV one because he plays both run and pass.

507
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Speaker 1: And it's just got leave.

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Speaker 3: Something on the other side too. Now because he is

509
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Speaker 3: I mean, he had a coming out party in twenty

510
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Speaker 3: twenty four, his rookie season Game two. It's funny because

511
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Speaker 3: we're rerunning some of these highlights for some reason. I

512
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 3: don't know why I saw this one, but I saw

513
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Speaker 3: the last pick against the Bears week two such.

514
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Speaker 1: That was such a good pick. It was I saw

515
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Speaker 1: that the other day. It was such a good pick.

516
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Speaker 3: It's so easy to forget about some of the real

517
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Speaker 3: fun moments of the season.

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Speaker 1: That was a great night. I know it was a close.

519
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Speaker 3: Oh you should have played but come on, I mean

520
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Speaker 3: national television, first.

521
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Speaker 1: Time on football in five years. It was a crazy night.

522
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Speaker 3: Fans went home. You're stoked. Didn't know how the Bears

523
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Speaker 3: were going to struggle? Didn't they start? Four and two?

524
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Speaker 1: They did four and two and then the Phil Mary Yeah,

525
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Speaker 1: and that really derailed them.

526
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Speaker 3: That is the most overhyped thing right now, by the way,

527
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Speaker 3: But the Bears, Bears stop Bears, always so very over overhyped.

528
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Speaker 3: This time last year, especially after the draft, overhyped. I

529
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Speaker 3: believe this time this year, and we'll see how it

530
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Speaker 3: plays out. Maybe it's a better year for them. Hard

531
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Speaker 3: to be worse in many ways, but people tend to

532
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Speaker 3: overvalue the Bears.

533
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Speaker 1: You're I think you're right about that. All right.

534
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Speaker 2: You don't know this, but you are about to make

535
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Speaker 2: my pick in my most recent mock draft for the

536
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Speaker 2: Houston Texans.

537
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Speaker 1: Really, you're you ready to do this, I'll do it.

538
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you three rankings, okay, mine PFFS and

539
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Speaker 2: Pro Football News or Pro Football Network, and for who's available,

540
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you those three rankings so you can

541
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Speaker 2: pick who you want at number twenty five.

542
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Speaker 1: Oh, I thought we're gonna find you ready, to do that. Yeah, No,

543
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Speaker 1: we're not gonna fill out a bracket.

544
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Speaker 2: We're gonna select the Texans next player first rounder next

545
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Speaker 2: right here, Mark's gonna help me finish with a mock

546
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Speaker 2: draft on Texans All Access. All right here we go

547
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Speaker 2: on on an initiative Texans All Access from not Texans

548
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Speaker 2: Radio studio.

549
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Speaker 1: Rats as we talked about Derek Stingley Junior.

550
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Speaker 2: Congrats to sting for getting a well deserved contract. Humble guy,

551
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: great guy, smart on the field. Uh just love him

552
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Speaker 2: being a Texan and glad he is here for the

553
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: next how many ever years because the three years three

554
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Speaker 2: years kick in.

555
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: I think after after the twenty sixth season. So is

556
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Speaker 1: he already? I mean, who's the best corner? I ecb one,

557
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Speaker 1: I know, certain one in the history of the franchise. Oh,

558
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Speaker 1: in history. J Jo's got long Jevy Pro Bowl.

559
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn's got Pro Bowl in the inaugural season when

560
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: they went four to twelve, made the Pro Bowl.

561
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Speaker 1: Sting has such Vince Carter like moments. I think Aaron

562
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Speaker 1: would sit here and say he's a better corner.

563
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Speaker 3: Yeah sting yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, but yeah, but

564
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: Jjo's longevity counts for as absolutely lot, an absolutely high

565
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Speaker 3: level coach on the field, making plays, making picks.

566
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Speaker 1: Pick. You know, Jjo's got a ton of moments, and

567
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Speaker 1: the longevity sting is getting there fast.

568
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just hasn't been around long enough to maybe

569
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: earn that distinction. That's right way I just put it.

570
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Speaker 3: But man, oh man, what a start to a career.

571
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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. Yeah, mock draft.

572
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Speaker 2: I'm working on a mock draft for my site football

573
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Speaker 2: Taker dot com and I have gotten all the way

574
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Speaker 2: to twenty five, and I thought about a nice little

575
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Speaker 2: radio segment to do, so I stopped by mock draft.

576
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Speaker 1: I stopped it for you.

577
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Speaker 2: Okay, you are going to well, you're gonna make this

578
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Speaker 2: one pick and then I'll finish the rest. Okay, I've

579
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Speaker 2: gotten to pick number twenty five, and there have been

580
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: some things that have happened in this draft that I

581
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: don't really like.

582
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Speaker 1: For instance, your own mock in my own mock draft, Okay.

583
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, the San Francisco forty nine ers have traded

584
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: from eleven up to four to go get Will Campbell

585
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: for their offensive line, and the Patriots got back. They

586
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: swapped first round picks, they got two thirds and they

587
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: got Brandon Auk in the trades, good trades, good trade

588
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: on both sides. Forty Niners get Will Campbell put them

589
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: in the offensive line of way they go. So then

590
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: the forty nine er, I'm sorry, the Patriots moved down

591
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 2: to eleven. And then they traded again what they do

592
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: this time with the Indianapolis Colts. That was fourteen because

593
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: the Colts wanted to get up to eleven and get

594
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: armand Membu offensive lineman, and is pretty easy trade. Patriots

595
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: moved down three spots. They got the Colts twenty twenty

596
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: six second rounder. It's not much just to move three spots.

597
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: Colts go get armand Membu.

598
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: Is that all it takes to move three spots in

599
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Speaker 3: the current draft next year second round?

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Speaker 1: It's not much. It's not much at all. Actually, that's

601
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

602
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: Much.

603
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: They didn't pay much for that muffler. No, that's right, okay.

604
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: And so the Patriots love it because the Patriots are like, hey,

605
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: let's keep reloading. They've now brought in two thirds a

606
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six second and Brandon Ayuk, and they got

607
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: the guy they wanted all along. They got Kenneth Grant

608
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: number fourteen to fit in their defense. They got Vince

609
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Speaker 2: will four two zero. So then it went James Pierce,

610
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: Jeday Baron and went you know, schwar Stewart and went

611
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: off the board. Matthew Golden, that's the guy I know

612
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: a lot of Texas fans won. He went to the

613
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks to join JSN and Cooper Cup. At eighteen,

614
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: the Bucks went Malachi Starks. The Broncos won a tight

615
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: end shoulder. Sanders finally goes at twenty one to the Steelers.

616
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: The three picks right in front of the Texans wide

617
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: receiver and now to your point, to your point, oh

618
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: don't do it, to your point about moving three spots

619
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Speaker 2: or four, this would be four spots. Yeah, I might

620
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: do it if this guy were on the board. It's

621
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Speaker 2: the Charger re mediable. But the Chargers need a receiver too.

622
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: The Chargers went and got wide receiver McMillen Arizona. He

623
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: fell to them, and I would love to have him, okay,

624
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: but then happened. So he goes to the Chargers. Chargers

625
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: need receiver, and as I said, I can't believe Justin

626
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: Herbert gets to throw to a lad mcconkee and team

627
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: back for the next ten years.

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00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: That sucks.

629
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: Packers picked a corner Maxwell Harrison out of Kentucky I

630
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: really like, and.

631
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Speaker 1: The Vikings surprised maybe some.

632
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: They went and got a running back Omar Are in

633
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: Hampton did Joe Mixon clone from North Carolina goes to

634
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Speaker 2: the Vikings at twenty four.

635
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: See really a first rounder.

636
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he really is, but I had

637
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: trouble really kind of finding something to fit for the Vikings. Okay,

638
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: so that's that's where I went, all right, So now

639
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: here there are three different So what I did was

640
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: I looked at three different boards. I looked at MINE,

641
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: I looked at pff Now I'm not one hundred percent

642
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: set on my My hundred will come out next week,

643
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty close, especially at this point in the draft.

644
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: So I have mine.

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00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: I looked at PFFS, and I looked at PFN, and

646
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: then I took the players that have already been drafted

647
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: out of there. Okay, okay, so on mine. The highest

648
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: ranked player that I have still available is Josh Simmons

649
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: Attackle from Ohio State, a number seventeen, then at number

650
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Speaker 2: nineteen in Mecca Buck, Ohio State. Now I'll just read

651
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: them to you because some of these guys who won't consider.

652
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: Like the next one, twenty one overall is Mike Green,

653
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: defensive end from Marshall. When I drafted event safety at

654
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: number twenty four, I think this is out.

655
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: Now.

656
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: Is Nick even Worry from South Carolina? I don't think

657
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: that's going to be one. Got Chauncey Garner Johnson twenty five,

658
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: Walter Nolan defensive tackle, miss twenty six, third burden of

659
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: third from Missouri twenty seven High Campbell linebacker. I don't

660
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: think it's from Alabama, TYLERK Williams defensive tackle of twenty nine.

661
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: It's a consideration. Then I get to these last three.

662
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: Two of these three in particular thirty one overall Donovan Jackson,

663
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State, thirty two overall, Trevon Henderson, running back, Ohio State,

664
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: thirty three overall, Gray Zabel.

665
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: North Dakota State.

666
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's who's available on my board, available via PFF.

667
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: Their highest rated is Derek Harmon, defensive tackle Oregon. The

668
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: next is defensive tackle from Toledo's the highest I've seen him.

669
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: I like him, I don't know if I like him

670
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: this much. Darius Alexander from Toledo, Walter Nolan at twenty five,

671
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: Gray Zable thirty one, Donovan Jackson off the board, PFN,

672
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: John Campbell, Amecca buk at twenty eight, for Burden at

673
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: twenty nine, TYLERK. Williams at thirty, Walter Nolan thirty one,

674
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: thirty two is Donovan as a rocker defensive end coach

675
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: by O'Bryant.

676
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he's got to fit here.

677
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: Thirty three, Grayzabel thirty six Donovan Jackson. So both me

678
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: and PFN have Donovan Jackson, Grey Zabel, Amca Buca, Walter Nolan, Okay,

679
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: given everything that's happened, Yeah, trade Laramie, trade Kenyon, let

680
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: Shaq go.

681
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: We brought back in some players traded for CJ.

682
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: Garner Johnson, So that to me takes nick EMU worry

683
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: out because could I get him in a second or

684
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: third round when I like him? Then maybe, But I've

685
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: already put an investment in CJ. Garner Johnson and my safety.

686
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: If Jimmy Ward's healthy, which we don't know how much,

687
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: that's how healthy's gonna be. I don't know if I

688
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: think we're okay, it's safety that we don't have to

689
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: take one of the first round, and especially because Malki

690
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: Starks is already off the board, so you don't have

691
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: two of them stare in your face, et cetera, et cetera.

692
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: As it sits right now, offensive line, that seems to

693
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: be the one, But those defensive tackles are really intriguing.

694
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: Walter Nolan's very intriguing, very athletic. TYLERK Williams a big, big,

695
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty five, three hundred and forty pounds dude,

696
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: but blocks out the sun, really strong, hard to run against,

697
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: kind of a DJ Reader type or even if something

698
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: as crazy as a running back, I don't think running back.

699
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: So we'll we'll we'll take that out your thoughts about

700
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: who it should be now. I'm the highest on Josh

701
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: Simmons at tackle from Ohio State, and Drew and I

702
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: had this conversation last night via text about he's a

703
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: true tackle now tackle going into guard.

704
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: He is an athlete with great feet, agility.

705
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was hurt pattel attendant injury at Ohio State.

706
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: Suffered in the first quarter of the first Oregon game

707
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: in October. Missed the rest of Steves in season, still

708
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: rehabbit from that injury.

709
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: Let's assume he's going to be healthy.

710
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: So let's assume he's going to be healthy and he

711
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: can be ready to go to the first day of

712
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: training camp.

713
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: Why did Derek Newton tear both Patteller attendons.

714
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: God, if one goes, is the other likely to go

715
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: to I mean, just do it on one play the

716
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: same time. Is just incredible, all right? So Gray's abel

717
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna draft him twenty fifth because I think

718
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: a lot of people on their boards have them a

719
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: little bit lower, like you just described.

720
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: I got him at thirty three, PFF thirty one, PFN

721
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: thirty three.

722
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: But he's got that smaller program thing going for him,

723
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: right because he's North Dakota State, and Nick doesn't like that.

724
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: He might be fine with it in this case, but

725
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. Nick's history is drafted three type guys

726
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: big ten, played in big games, big stadiums, has the

727
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: big time thing going already, so they can slip right

728
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: into the NFL and be productive.

729
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing.

730
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: If Nick trades down from twenty five, I don't think

731
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: he's gonna do it, because he'll trade that pick if

732
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: he knows he can get something really good, but he's

733
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: not sure he's gonna get Zabel. Now he might be

734
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: sent scrambling and not panic mode, but hurry up mode

735
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: to get back up into the first round to get

736
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: somebody else that he likes, and then all of a sudden,

737
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: oh my god, I trade it back.

738
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: But what did I really do?

739
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: Well, he won't say it, but just there have been

740
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: a number of times I've heard him say, Hey, we

741
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: did a lot of studying in this guy, and you know,

742
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: we tried to look at this guy.

743
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: I think they really wanted to move up from forty

744
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: three last year, and there was some guy and they

745
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: couldn't do it.

746
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: And so that might be that might be something that's

747
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: kind of stuck in his car. Like man, if I trade,

748
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: I can't trade too far right, But then you wonder, okay,

749
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: is it worth it, because as we just pointed out,

750
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: to go from twenty five to twenty nine, you might

751
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: get a future something, You might get a four.

752
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it might not be a whole lot move.

753
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: This is gonna sound not harsh, but this is gonna

754
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: sound notable. They have needs now, not just O line

755
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: and wide receiver. Yes, yes, you think about depth at

756
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: certain spots, they just re up Derek Stingley or you know,

757
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: sign up to the extension. What's the health like at safety, depth,

758
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: all that stuff you have to consider, uh, and not

759
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: that they'll draft that there, but they got to hit

760
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: here on a player, right, I could see a moving up.

761
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: Maybe I want a great player Abuka. I'm tempted to

762
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: take Simmons, but for the sake of clicks now, for

763
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: the sake of big playmaking, I'll take a Buka because.

764
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: I want to.

765
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 3: I need this. I know I need a tackle. But

766
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: I got a feeling they're going to figure out a

767
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: way to solve this. Let's put without having the draft one.

768
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: Let's put it this way. I like my option in

769
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: the building, my options. We should say that because maybe

770
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: an option that we're not discussing enough. I like my

771
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: options in the building more at tackle than I do

772
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 3: what I currently have overall at receiver.

773
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: That's healthy.

774
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: If Tank were fully healthy going into twenty twenty five,

775
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 3: I'd be like, Okay, let's roll, yeah, Nico, Tank the rest,

776
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: let's let's have at it. But no Tank, Kirk and

777
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 3: Nico fine, But I'm dangerously close to thin icyre anyway,

778
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: So I have to add to it in the draft.

779
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: Here is my chance I can get a Buka. I'm

780
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: taking a Buka.

781
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: Abuka feels to me and I don't want to use

782
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 2: the word safe, but to your point that you've got

783
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: to get an impact player, you're you're with a Buka,

784
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: and I did. I did a lot of study into

785
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: Abuka last week. Mark at the end of it, I'll

786
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: have a scot report coming out this week. Everybody wants

787
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: a pigeonhole him to be in a slot receiver and

788
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: he's not fast, and he's not I'm telling you that

789
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: dude can absolutely play.

790
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: He can run, He is smart, he is.

791
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: A great teammate, tremendous football character, tremendous off the field.

792
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: He obviously has a synergy with the quarterback already with CJ. I.

793
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because I was kind of

794
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: leaning that way that that's kind of the pick to

795
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 2: me and Muka and Mecha Buka that I keep going

796
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: back to, like he feels the most Texans worthy worthy.

797
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

798
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels the most like a Texan. This this

799
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: group of Texans, he feels the most like a Texan.

800
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 2: And by the way, he's six' one two oh two. Yeah,

801
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: look at that.

802
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: That's not small.

803
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: No, not even close, not even all receiver status. By

804
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: the way, match Shob coined the term texans worthy.

805
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: Did he still use it?

806
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did, because I think it was Haynesworth. It

807
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: was either Hainesworth or Sue, one of the people that

808
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 3: was very mean to match Shop on the football field,

809
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: and he said, yeah, he's not texans worthy or something

810
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: that that's He definitely said texans worthy. But yeah, I'm

811
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: having trouble recalling the exact context that led him to

812
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: that comment or that term, but we still use it

813
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: from time to time.

814
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so a Mecca Abuca is the pick. And

815
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: again to the offensive line, Simmons is coming off and

816
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: this is you know you're drafting at twenty five.

817
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: Simmons is coming off a knee injury.

818
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: Gray's abel has played at the FCS level, which is

819
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: not something that the Texans had really made a business

820
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: of drafting. Nope, Now can always change. Titus Hourd was

821
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 2: Alabama State. Obviously, that was before Nick got into bilding. Yeah,

822
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: but key point, Donovan Jackson probably better at tackle than

823
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: he did at guard, but I think he's a guard

824
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: going forward. I did work on him too. I think

825
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: he's a tremendous football player. He's from just down the

826
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: road Episcoal High School. I would love him again, another

827
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: right Ohio State guy that CJ has a lot of

828
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: connection to the wild Card, and there would be Trevion Henderson.

829
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't think you drafted a running back.

830
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: The Viking's already did it the pick before you, and

831
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: my mock draft, I don't think you would do it,

832
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: but man, you can get a whole lot of explosiveness

833
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: out of Trevion Henderson. And again another Ohio State guy

834
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: and an offensive player who quack going to the first

835
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: couple of rounds.

836
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean, market's unbelievable.

837
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: Between Donovan Jackson, Ameca Buca Simmons, Trevion Henderson, Simmons quin

838
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: Shawn Jenkins is probably going to be in the third.

839
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: It's the amount of talent that they have and it's

840
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: it's even on defensive side too. And probably the best

841
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: player they had is not even draft eligible this year

842
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: because he was only on a second year.

843
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: That's Caleb Downs in safety.

844
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: No, we are there's a reason that they won a

845
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: national championship. That team had talent all over the place

846
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: and maybe the best football player that we've seen college

847
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: football in a long time, the true freshman Jeremiah Smith,

848
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: a receiver, so we don't even get to see him

849
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: for two years.

850
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: The NFL, no.

851
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 3: Wonder, they were so upset they lost to Michigan. Oh

852
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 3: yeah with that, just watch talent, yes and look what happened.

853
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Okay, So the pick is a Mecca Abuka,

854
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: and the pick right behind us is the La Rams,

855
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: and the La Rams are going to take uh, They're

856
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: gonna take Gray's Abel just to see if you are Yeah,

857
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: they're gonna take grayse Abel.

858
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: Why not, They'll take him right there. They'll take him

859
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: right there. That see, that would have been tackle. They're

860
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna leave him at tackle. That would have been bad

861
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: trading down all of a sudden you don't get him.

862
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, right exactly, because this is about where if you

863
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: do trade down, you know, trying to find the spot

864
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: and who you trade with. You know, there are some

865
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: teams that need receivers. So maybe they like Abuca. Although

866
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: the Bills just signed I think the Bills just made

867
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: a great signing with Josh Palmer.

868
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: That was a great sign.

869
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: You liked him, I like him lot, and I texted

870
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: sALS like, dude, that's one of my favorite guys. And

871
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: he set up in Buffalo. The fans were kind of like, eh,

872
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: he met that. I'm like, dude, and Sal was like, no,

873
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 2: he can play. I'm like, yes, I know he can play.

874
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe the Bills. Maybe maybe the Bills are

875
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: The Bills are in that region. They've been in that

876
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: region for a while, so you know, maybe that's a

877
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: trade you end up making to move down. But the

878
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: point of this exercise a is discuss the draft, talk

879
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 2: about the needs of the text, especially after free agency,

880
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: but be also to look at who might not be there,

881
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 2: Like I have Booker Banks, those two are they were gone.

882
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: They went back to back twelve and thirteen, Kenthy, Grant's

883
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: gone at fourteen, and I didn't I didn't do that

884
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: because I didn't want them to be available for the Texans.

885
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: I didn't want that at all. But it just it

886
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 2: just turned out that way. Just looking at team team

887
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: needs and everything, like, Okay, Booker's gotta go here.

888
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna groan if the Colts end up with Grant.

889
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna like that at all.

890
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least they got Membo. I mean, that's a

891
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 2: guy that a lot of people in Houston have talked

892
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: about members a good player, really good player, but.

893
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: They end up with him.

894
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, but Membo, Booker, Banks, and there are

895
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: all guys Campbell, Campbell's probably gonna be the first off

896
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: the board. I would imagine he's probably got the He's

897
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: he's the most swarm worthy though, Campbell. I wish we

898
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: could get Campbell, but that's we'd have to get up.

899
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: We got to get up to go get him. And

900
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: I don't think that's happening. What you think about sir

901
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: Sanders falling to twenty one to the Steelers.

902
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: In your mock?

903
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: In my mock, because that's the thing I couldn't find.

904
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 3: There are those who think it could be worse, right.

905
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are people that think it could be worse

906
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: that he falls all the way out of the first

907
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: There are people that think it could go.

908
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: His last name wasn't Sanders, everything the same last name

909
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: is Smith.

910
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: I would it help or hurt I don't think it

911
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: would help him. I don't think.

912
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it would help him. I think it

913
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: would hurt him even more.

914
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: I think Sanders gives sel doubt or is the benefit

915
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: of a doubt.

916
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 2: Is it the same character in just the same guy.

917
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: It's just his name as job, exactly the same.

918
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: Going to third round? All right, there it is a

919
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: third round, right for.

920
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: A number of reasons. But the but here's the round. Now,

921
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: the Sanders name is worth two round. Here's here's the

922
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 2: other thing. Though, people around the league understand that by

923
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: drafting Shauduur, the circus comes with him.

924
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: The circus does the helicopter every not saying he's a

925
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: helicopter because everything he's got its.

926
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: Own job to do, right, But everything comes with the

927
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: should the podcast, the video team, how.

928
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: Those Colorado press conference is going to be when they're

929
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 3: asking him about Hunter and Shadeur every week?

930
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: Right, exactly exactly. So, I mean it's they've got their hands.

931
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: It would have been interesting. But to me as a player,

932
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: I think I settled somewhere like twenty three or twenty

933
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: four my hairs one hundred for Shador And that's just

934
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: as a player, and so it's a decent enough player.

935
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: But I just think when teams make these draft picks,

936
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: a lot of times you go like, why is this

937
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: guy drafting He's not.

938
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: A bad guy. It's just there's so much that goes

939
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: with It's like drafting Tebow.

940
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: I don't think the Broncos understood at the time how

941
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: much was going with that decision to draft Tebo, but

942
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: they all found out very very quickly.

943
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: Got a playoff season and a playoff win for them,

944
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 3: and a lot more of yard game against the Texans

945
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: in twenty ten.

946
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: Ouch. Oh, why did you have to go there? Why

947
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: did you have to go there? Oh?

948
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: Man?

949
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: All right, A Mecca book is the pick Football takeover

950
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: dot Com. Go check it out to be up either

951
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: tonight or tomorrow. The rest of the mock draft. You

952
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: can see where I have everybody going and a couple

953
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: of trades I made in the first round. There's not

954
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: been a trade of a pick in the first round.

955
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: Everybody's got there picking the first round in his draft

956
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: for now. Meanwhile, the Cassario's like, hold your beer, hold

957
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: my beer, because that's exactly what he's gonna do.

958
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna trade that pick. Hold yeah, hold my kombucha.

959
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: There you go.

960
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: All right, we come back. Texas have made a couple

961
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: of month ooves, a couple of names.

962
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: Maybe you've heard.

963
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next right here on Texans All Access.

964
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: What's up, everybody?

965
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Monday edition of Texans All Access

966
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: from Non Day Texans Radio studio. One final segment for

967
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: this evening before we turn it over to Area forty

968
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: five back at the home base at Sports Radio six'.

969
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: Ten The texans make a few things official. Today so

970
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 2: the official transactions that we got today are as. Follows

971
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: they have released Cornerback Anthony, averrett who actually joined the

972
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: roster late in the, season joined the practice.

973
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: Squad he has been.

974
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: Released also released a waved excuse me failing of physical

975
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: was a sonth round draft pick from a couple of years.

976
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: Ago Brandon hill never got out of the starting blocks

977
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: here at his injuries kurtailed both seasons basically here In.

978
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: Houston and, finally another practice squad, Player Cris jackson wide

979
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: receivers on practice squad In december And.

980
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: January he is also.

981
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: Waived now those are the moves made. Official two moves took. Place,

982
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: ACTUALLY i think probably at the beginning of the, Show

983
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: Adam schefter reporting That Jakub johnson full back and a

984
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: true full back at that he's signing a one year

985
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: deal with The Houston. Texans that's according to his, Agent,

986
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: dreurozenhouse and also signing with The. Texans AND i like

987
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: this because this is something That mark AND i talked

988
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: about last week and we actually talked about off the year,

989
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: today like what are we doing about the depth at?

990
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: Corner, well we handled a little bit of.

991
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: That Former jaguars free Agent Ronald darby signing a one

992
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 2: year deal with The. Texans, now those two deals on the, surface,

993
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: OKAY i mean you look at him and, go, yeah

994
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: those are maybe NAMES i. RECOGNIZE i would Think darby

995
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: is Before Jakub. Johnson BUT i like the fact That

996
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: johnson has experience with The patriots Both. Nicks i'm sure

997
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: at some point worked with him while he was there

998
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: In New. England And Ronald darby has been a guy

999
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: That i've always wanted to hear with The. Texans he's

1000
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: always just been kind of a thorn in the side

1001
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: to The. Texans and get him on a good guy's

1002
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: side is a good. Thing and, look you've Got Kamari,

1003
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: Lasser you've Got Derrek stingley who just got the massive

1004
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: extension and much deserved. Extension, today there's still gotta be some.

1005
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: Depth you gotta have guys that have played games, before

1006
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: have started. Before this roster is not chuck full of

1007
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: those and makes me think, that, hey maybe in the,

1008
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: draft that's something that they're gonna look. At in addition

1009
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: to adding To Ronald, darby But Ronald Darby Jakib johnson

1010
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: both being added to the squad sign free agent deals

1011
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: according to. Sources according to Agent, rosenhaus but made. Official Anthony,

1012
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: Averrett Brandon hill And Kiris jackson released or waived depending

1013
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: on years of, service but they.

1014
00:46:54,520 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: Are removed from the. Roster So texans staying busy as always.

1015
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: As they revamp this, team get ready for the twenty

1016
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 2: twenty FIVE Nfl, draft more signings in free, agency maybe

1017
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: a trade coming, DOWN i don't. Know you gotta keep

1018
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: your ears, peeled that's for. Sure you keep it locked

1019
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: right here To texans all access and big thanks To

1020
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: mark vandermir to all of you for, Listening thank you

1021
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: so much for my guys back at Sports radio six.

1022
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Ten thank you. So much we'll see you tomorrow and,

1023
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: as Always. Go texans