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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we don't know where to

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Speaker 1: start with that Broncos and Bill's classic. I am Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal in my garage talking to my friend Nick Shook.

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Speaker 1: Half of Championship weekend is set. The Denver Broncos are

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Speaker 1: hosting the AFC Championship Game, but they are gonna do

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Speaker 1: it without Bo Nicks. The Seattle Seahawks one and the

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Speaker 1: most dominant. We're the one seed and we look like

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Speaker 1: it fashion They will be hosting the NFC Championship Game

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Speaker 1: next week. We also are gonna hit in this show

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Speaker 1: where we recap both of those games in order of

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Speaker 1: how good they were. We're gonna talk about the coaching

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Speaker 1: hires that happened tonight. Kevin Stefanski's going to Atlanta. Green

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Speaker 1: Bay has resigned Matt Lafleur, and yes, the John Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: drama is.

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Speaker 2: Over in New York.

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Speaker 1: But we are now what four hours removed Shook from

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Speaker 1: the Broncos Bill's game. I still feel like I'm coming

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Speaker 1: down from it because I'm partly coming down from what

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Speaker 1: happened afterwards with the bow Nixon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of those games where the highs

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Speaker 3: were so high that the conclusion you know, Lefty feeling

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Speaker 3: a little uneasy, and then the news afterwards just it

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Speaker 3: was like an absolute sucker punch that floored you.

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Speaker 4: If you're a Broncos fan.

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Speaker 1: There are Divisional round games that you just remember forever,

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Speaker 1: and even if it wasn't for the knicks injury, this

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Speaker 1: would have been one of those games. Let's not waste

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Speaker 1: any more time. Let's go to.

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Speaker 5: My a kick of twenty four yards for the win,

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Speaker 5: snap placement kick on the way and Devers go to

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Speaker 5: the FC Championship game.

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Speaker 6: In an epic battle from a power field at my Hide.

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Speaker 6: The Broncos have climbed higher and they have found a

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Speaker 6: way to win again, coming from behind. They beat the

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Speaker 6: Buffalo Bills this afternoon thirty three to thirty.

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Speaker 1: MM thirty three to thirty a classic back and forth,

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Speaker 1: another overtime loss. Unfortunately for Josh Allen Sean McDermott in

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Speaker 1: those Bills.

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Speaker 2: That was Dave Logan on k O A.

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Speaker 1: You almost expected him to go a little crazier his

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Speaker 1: team is going to the AFC Championship, but you mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: It was almost an underwhelming then because Flags were involved

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Speaker 1: to one of the best football games you know at

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Speaker 1: this stage of a playoff, you know, scenario that I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen.

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Speaker 2: There's there's so.

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Speaker 1: Much we're gonna have to get through. Chuck, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you, what is the first thing you think you

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Speaker 1: will remember from this game, from this match up years

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Speaker 1: from now.

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Speaker 3: I think it's important that we say this now because

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Speaker 3: I think what happens with the Broncos next week could

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Speaker 3: absolutely taint our.

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Speaker 4: Hindsight of all of this.

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Speaker 3: But I'm going to think about that that touchdown pass

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Speaker 3: that Bonix had in the fourth quorterer that put the

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Speaker 3: Broncos ahead. I mean, it was an incredible throw. It

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Speaker 3: was a play that was made in a situation in

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Speaker 3: which the Broncos offense was struggling against pressure for a

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Speaker 3: good portion of the second half.

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Speaker 4: It was an onions throw.

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Speaker 3: It was exactly what you need to see from Bonnicks,

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Speaker 3: who had done that with the Broncos all year. That

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Speaker 3: was the play that will resonate with me. But also

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Speaker 3: deep down, the goal line creativity, the tackle eligible touchdown run,

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Speaker 3: the Bills running corn dog, the Mikole Hardman like that

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Speaker 4: It's just this game was so crazy, kind of got

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Speaker 4: lost in the shuffle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of curious where you'd go because

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Speaker 1: there's so many ways to go, and we'll go through

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Speaker 1: it all in what the Knicks injury means and everything,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's a great place to start. Let's

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Speaker 1: actually listen to that bow knicks dime to take the

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Speaker 1: lead in the fourth part, right, I think.

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Speaker 5: The Bill's rush five Bowe in the pocket, hits, he froze, froze,

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Speaker 7: Deep corner talk touchdown, Marvin Mems twenty six yards strike,

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Speaker 7: bow knicks to Marvin Mamms, who's still down. Bow drops

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Speaker 7: a dime in the far corner of the end zone.

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Speaker 7: Marvin Mims the player of the game for the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Amazing to call it Marvin Mims the player of the game.

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Speaker 1: There were so many to choose from, and obviously bo

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Speaker 1: and Mims did end with ninety three yards eight catches

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Speaker 1: much to get to in terms of what Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: actually think there's some things big picture you could pick

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Speaker 1: go for. In this game, that play comes directly after

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Speaker 1: Cherdevius White gets knocked out of the game. It was

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Speaker 1: one of the only plays Dame Jackson was in the

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Speaker 2: Play the clock, not score too early.

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Speaker 1: Or set up for you know, you know, just moving

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Speaker 1: and Knicks goes three for four on throws over twenty

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Speaker 1: examples where I thought Sean Payton was really on it

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Speaker 1: in terms of situations, but that was it. And you

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Speaker 1: have to give Boon Nicks a ton of credit for

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Speaker 1: playing a really great first half and then in the end,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the fourth quarter in overtime, like

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Speaker 1: so many games before, making the big plays to win.

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Speaker 3: I think the beauty of this game was it was

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Speaker 3: found success, that let's do the same thing. There's a

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Speaker 3: third down conversion where Bonix rolls out right, he's looking

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Speaker 3: that's similar to the whole student body right that the

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Speaker 3: Bills ran with Josh Allen to get a first down.

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Speaker 3: Like they're doing, they're kind of mirroring each other and

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Speaker 3: a great example of two coaches who really trust and

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Speaker 4: And I like that throw that Nick's had there that

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Speaker 3: This is a play that look in this situation, it

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Speaker 4: They're running out of time. They're inside a minute.

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Speaker 3: They have completed some passes, but you're worried about can

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Speaker 3: then he just drops back in a collapsing pocket and

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Speaker 3: the best throw perhaps of his whole season, in the

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Speaker 3: than that in a huge spot, which is exactly who

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Speaker 3: BONICKX and the Broncos have been all season, and that

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Speaker 3: Payne to allow him to take those shots, and it

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Speaker 1: And yet it was it was so far from over there.

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Speaker 1: The Bills get the ball with the chance to you know,

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Speaker 1: win at the end of regulation, because a minute for

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a lot of time. But while we're

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Speaker 1: talking like good situations, just while it's on my mind,

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Speaker 1: for Sean Payton, there was a second down, deep touchdown

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Speaker 1: to little Jordan Humphrey at the end of the second quarter,

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Speaker 1: He also had a third and eight call after one

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Speaker 1: And it just stuck in my head because it was

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Speaker 2: Just little plays like that.

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Speaker 1: But if you had asked me the question, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to put you on the spot, what do you think

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Speaker 1: I would have said, is going to stick with me

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Speaker 1: for this game? Because I gotta say it would not

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Speaker 4: Was it about next player Josh Allen? Play that's I

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Speaker 1: H who's the main character of the main character right

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Speaker 4: Is well, I mean it was Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: So it was Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Is it the throw that he got picked off? That

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Speaker 3: was the controversial ruling? Is that the one that's going

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Speaker 2: That that is?

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Speaker 1: And I don't think we should wait any longer before

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Speaker 1: looking at that play. Let's actually listen to the call

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Speaker 1: of the Jalen McMillan interception on the fifty to fifty

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Speaker 4: E spec pressure. I think we're going to get it.

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Speaker 6: Who focused on the way?

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Speaker 4: What's on the way?

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Speaker 6: Alan in the pocket loads it up deep ball down

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Speaker 2: The ball is.

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Speaker 7: Intercepting Jay Kwon McMillan, Oh my goodness. The Bill sideline

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Speaker 7: thought that Brandon Cooks had it.

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Speaker 4: Jay Kwan took it away from him.

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Speaker 7: Both players went airborne.

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Speaker 1: That play was everything. I don't think it's that controversial.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to them.

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Speaker 1: That play was like, why the NFL is king to me?

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Speaker 1: When he rips that throat. That's the third possession of overtime,

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Speaker 1: by the way, and it comes after two really good

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Speaker 1: third down conversions from Josh Allen, which kind of showed

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Speaker 1: the best of Josh Allen from today. I think, I

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Speaker 1: know there's four turnovers and everyone's killing Josh Allen. He

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Speaker 1: played great for the most part today, and he made

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Speaker 1: a couple big mistakes. That was not one of them.

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Speaker 1: He threw a dime down the field to his receiver.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why the NFL to be his king

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Speaker 1: is he drops back to pass. It's mile high, it's

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's third and ten. That ball's in the air,

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Speaker 1: and you're thinking this play is gonna decide the game.

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Speaker 2: It's in the air.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, an undersize receiver bouncing around the league. He

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Speaker 1: jumps in the air while you're watching the game, he's

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Speaker 1: got the ball in his hands. For that split second,

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Speaker 1: sure and me and Bill's fans and Broncos fans are

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Speaker 1: thinking the Buffalo Bills just won the game. Like they

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Speaker 1: are in field goal range. That's it. That's the play

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Speaker 1: Jalen McMillan, Jakwon McMillan, who you know they tried to

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Speaker 1: It was, in fact, it was an incredible effort, a

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Speaker 2: They turned it over five times.

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Speaker 1: They scored six times, and they turned it over five times.

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Speaker 4: It's extremely difficult.

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Speaker 9: I feel like I yeah, I feel like I let

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, And you know, we need the the

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Speaker 1: We're also gonna spend a lot of time on this

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Speaker 10: Not even slow it down. And that's why I had

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Speaker 1: I disagree, because I don't think taking longer was gonna

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Speaker 1: change the call. I've seen a couple of reporters talk

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Speaker 1: about it, and actually I hate it when people blindly say, oh,

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Speaker 1: reporters are saying this.

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Speaker 2: I saw Albert Breer.

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Speaker 1: Point out, how could they not at least, you know,

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Speaker 1: look at the call longer. And I saw Tyler Dunn

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Speaker 1: do it too, and they're getting on the NFL for this.

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Speaker 1: And when I see that, what I see is that

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Speaker 1: they both agree with the call because they want to

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Speaker 1: rip the NFL so bad.

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Speaker 2: And I get it. I'll rip them for obviously bad calls.

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Speaker 1: They want to rip the NFL so bad, but they

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Speaker 1: kind of know actually, like that call was probably right,

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Speaker 1: and so you just want to be mad at something,

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Speaker 1: and I think even McDermott saying it that way, like

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Speaker 1: we just wish they looked at it longer. It's like

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Speaker 1: they got we got three replays in there. They did

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Speaker 1: look at it like the end, like they looked at it.

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Speaker 1: They were overturning that call. What do you want like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they just want to complain about something, And I get it.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about the depis on the next possession

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Speaker 1: and everything. But I just think in the end it

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Speaker 1: was a bang bang call, but actually they got it right.

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Speaker 4: And McDermott called time out to buy them more time

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Speaker 4: look at it.

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Speaker 3: But look, we live in a world and much expedited

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Speaker 3: review is exists, and nobody ever complains about that when

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Speaker 3: they slide in and correct something quickly.

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Speaker 4: When they're looking at it in New York.

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Speaker 3: You know that they're following the same protocol and a

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Speaker 3: play like that, and they don't see anything that's worthy

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Speaker 3: of overturning the call. So I think that you agree,

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Speaker 3: you're right that they probably agree with the call. But

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Speaker 3: it's also there's probably an element to it where it's like, ah,

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Speaker 3: but I want to be one hundred percent sure. I

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Speaker 3: really want to make sure they do their deal.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to rip the call, they would rip the call,

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Speaker 1: but they're saying, why didn't they look at it again?

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Speaker 2: Anyways.

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Speaker 1: The crazy thing is after that, you know they get

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Speaker 1: the ball back, and at this point bo Nicks has

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Speaker 1: done a little bit of everything in this game. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I thought it a really good first half.

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Speaker 1: We'll almost forget about this first half. But they only

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Speaker 1: had four possessions in the first half. I thought this

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Speaker 1: was going to be a time of possession, complimentary football game,

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Speaker 1: and it was. Both teams really held the ball in

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Speaker 1: the first half. They score seventeen points, which is unreal

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Speaker 1: only possessions. They go fifty percent on third down conversions

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Speaker 1: in the first half, very few mistakes basically on offense

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Speaker 1: in the first half, and then they steal three points

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Speaker 1: at the end of the half. Really good first half,

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Speaker 1: and then they kind of like do the Kevin Patula

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Speaker 1: offense for about four drives to start the second half

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Speaker 1: and get nothing. And I thought McDermott's play calling where

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Speaker 1: he gets more aggressive, Yeah, looks like his play calling

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Speaker 1: was maybe gonna win the game ye for them. But

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Speaker 1: because for instance, that one hopper to Sekir, they don't

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Speaker 1: get the two possession lead. They let the Bills come

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Speaker 1: all the way back from twenty three to ten. They

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Speaker 1: let them take a twenty seven to twenty three lead,

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Speaker 1: So that's seventeen unanswered. But bo then does get the

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Speaker 1: great fourth quarter drive. Then he starts overtime and he

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Speaker 1: they don't do anything in the first overtime drive, but

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Speaker 1: in the second overtime drive ultimately like they hit enough

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Speaker 1: big plays and Sean Payton gets get you know, it's

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Speaker 1: a check down to r J. Harvey is one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest plays in that drive, and then a couple

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Speaker 1: pass interference calls. What did you think about that entire

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Speaker 1: kind of end sequence or anything you want to go

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Speaker 1: there for how that second half like flow of offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it talked about like the copycat nature of this game.

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Speaker 3: I also felt the chess match was visible in real

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Speaker 3: time and the Broncos had their early advantage. They get

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Speaker 3: a little bit more of an advantage by forcing the

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen fumble and stealing the three points. But Sean

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Speaker 3: McDermott essentially dominated defensively in the second half from there,

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Speaker 3: outside of the early possession where they you know, they

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Speaker 3: get the ball, the Broncos get the ball back and

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Speaker 3: convert that into points.

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Speaker 4: And it was because you're right what happened.

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Speaker 1: And that was off of a Josh Allen, Yes, short

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Speaker 1: field tey yard drive for a field goal or.

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Speaker 4: Something exactly, but they still cash that in right.

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Speaker 2: Or seven yards. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: What the theme of the second half to me was

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Speaker 3: we are playing for our lives.

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Speaker 4: There is no reason to not dial up the aggression.

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Speaker 3: It was McDermott sending pressure relentlessly, sending different looks, dropping

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Speaker 3: guy guys back into coverage while sending blitzeres from other sides.

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Speaker 3: Bo trying to keep up by getting the line to

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Speaker 3: slide in the proper area but still not having much

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Speaker 3: time to throw, checking it down to running backs who

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Speaker 3: get blasted immediately by Matt Mlano or Cole Bishop whoever

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Speaker 3: might be there to cut them down in the flat.

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Speaker 3: And then the Broncos kind of accepted as the game

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Speaker 3: got late, we have to go for broke. Forget trying

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Speaker 3: to check it down and just getting the ball out.

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Speaker 3: Let's go deep. If they're blitz in, we're gonna get

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Speaker 3: man coverage. Let's trust our receivers to make a play

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Speaker 3: and just throw it up there now. Unfortunately, for those

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Speaker 3: in the viewing audience who don't like the officials involvement, oftentimes,

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Speaker 3: when you're in one on one coverage and the blitz

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Speaker 3: is coming and you throw the ball up passed, you

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Speaker 3: for intends to get called, but it didn't get called. Initially,

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Speaker 3: there was a ball to Cortland Sutton where it was

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Speaker 3: really good hand fighting and there was contact, no flag,

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Speaker 3: and you thought I could see a flag going there,

548
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Speaker 3: but I'm glad that they kept that in their pockets.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Broncos keep doing it and eventually they get

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Speaker 3: the flag, and it's not necessarily I wouldn't view it

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Speaker 3: as like them trying to buy a flag or just

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Speaker 3: throwing up there into a flag. I thought that the

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Speaker 3: first pass interference, while questionable, you could see it going

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Speaker 3: both ways. Joey Bosa also gets hit the roughing the

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Speaker 3: passer on that.

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Speaker 1: Play yeplay by bo Yeah, and the worst time.

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Speaker 2: Frankly, that was gonna be too hard.

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Speaker 1: Just disappointing playoff run for Joey Bosa where he was

560
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Speaker 1: one of their worst players the last couple of games

561
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Speaker 1: where they were running at him. He made some mistakes

562
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Speaker 1: in this game and really struggled last week and and

563
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: hurt them in this game. And ultimately, Yeah, they couldn't

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Speaker 1: get that that final stop. I I think the first

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Speaker 1: pass interference call on the overtime game winning.

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Speaker 2: Drive was like a no brain.

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Speaker 1: I can't even believe anyone's arguing about that. The second one,

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Speaker 1: the trendevious white call where which you know, set up

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Speaker 1: it being a chip shot instead of a longer field goal.

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Speaker 2: That was close. It was close.

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Speaker 4: I'm on the other side of this.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the other side of this because I think

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Speaker 3: the first one you could see them not throwing the flag, but.

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Speaker 4: I also think it was p I. The second one.

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Speaker 3: Cooked by Marvin mins by like a step and a half.

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Speaker 3: And if Nicks doesn't under throw the ball, it's a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: So it's either going to be a touchdown or pass interference,

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Speaker 3: and it ends up being pas de france because the

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Speaker 3: ball is under thrown and those who claim that, oh,

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00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: he just under threw it trying to draw PI. The

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00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: receiver was going to catch a touchdown if he puts

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Speaker 3: it on him. So either way, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a negative outcome for the or for the Bills in

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Speaker 3: that instance. And yes, I think back to Super Bowl

585
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Speaker 3: what was it, fifty seven, right, fifty seven in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Great.

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Speaker 3: I thought I was watching the greatest Super Bowl of

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Speaker 3: my life, and it came down to a holding penalty

589
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: that set the Chiefs up for the game winning field goal, right,

590
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: And that was kind of a bummer for it to

591
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 3: end in that fashion. You could say that, you know,

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Speaker 3: apply that similarly to this game, but it really didn't,

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Speaker 3: because it's just kind of the game was trending in

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Speaker 3: that direction where the Broncos were making the plays of

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Speaker 3: the Bills weren't in the biggest moments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just back and forth. The RG

597
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: Harvey catch and run for twenty five yards on that drive.

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Speaker 4: He picked up fifteen extra on his own work.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately sets them up at midfield and I'm thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're probably winning this game. And for anyone that's going

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that the all PI offense was enacted for

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Speaker 1: the last drive, that last throw to Marvin Mims was

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Speaker 1: made one play after Bo Nicks broke his ankle that

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Speaker 1: ended his season. It's like, what are we what are

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00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: we even talking about here? I guess it's time to

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Speaker 1: talk about the broken ankle because I have a few

607
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: more things from this game. But Sean Payton comes to

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Speaker 1: the press conference after the initial press conference is already over.

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Speaker 1: Credit to him for doing this and the Broncos. Let's

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Speaker 1: actually listen to Sean Payton. And again, this is after

611
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Speaker 1: the press conference is over. Everyone goes back and then

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Speaker 1: they call the media back to the press conference room

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Speaker 1: just a bit later.

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Speaker 2: Here's what Sean Payton.

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Speaker 11: Is not good news. From the second to last play

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Speaker 11: in overtime, Bow fractured a bone in his right ankle.

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Speaker 11: He's scheduled to have surgery Tuesday of this week, which

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Speaker 11: will put him out for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 11: Stead he's ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Mmm.

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Speaker 1: Later on, Sean Payton asked about Jared Stidham. I think

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Speaker 1: it might have even been going off the podium. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure because I didn't see it like a he in.

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Speaker 1: They asked Hi, abouts did him, and he just said,

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Speaker 1: just watch more thoughts on that in a second. But

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go over the play that it happened

627
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Speaker 1: like it was them.

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Speaker 2: I think it was like a what.

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Speaker 4: He rolled designs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a design sweep where he's I thought

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Speaker 1: maybe I had an option to run, I mean option

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Speaker 1: to pass, but maybe it was a design to sweep

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Speaker 1: for bo Nicks. And he loses a couple of yards

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Speaker 1: on the play. And the thing is, they didn't show

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Speaker 1: a replay on it during the game because it didn't

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00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: seem like he got hurt. Now, when you go back

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Speaker 1: and watch it, you can see his foot get bent

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00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: awkwardly and him limping slightly but not crazy. He pretty

639
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: much goes right back to the huddle, throws that Mims pass,

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00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: and you know, then the next play sets up for

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Speaker 1: the game winning field goal with the kneeled down. Sean

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00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: Payton kind of confused some people by saying second to

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Speaker 1: last play of overtime because technically the kneel down was

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Speaker 1: the second to last play of overtime, But he did

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00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: clarify if if that clip was you know, a little longer,

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Speaker 1: that it was the throw, the play on the throw,

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00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, the play before the throw.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and.

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00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: It's tough because when they ran the play, I thought,

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Speaker 3: why did you call that there?

651
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Speaker 4: That it just didn't make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: It's really unfortunate that that is the result of it.

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00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: They ran to the short side of the field. It

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Speaker 3: was one of those plays where you send a receiver

655
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Speaker 3: in motion before. It's a lot of eye candy and

656
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: window dressing to try to get the defense moving toward

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00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: the receiver in the flight as if he's going to

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Speaker 3: dump it off, and then he runs the opposite way.

659
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: You're trying to catch them by surprise to the short

660
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: side of the field, and it ends up, you know,

661
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: producing nothing but the war possible outcome.

662
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: And yeah, then you have the past.

663
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: Deference on the throw of Marvin Mims the next play,

664
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Speaker 3: and then they set up for the you know, the

665
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: kneel down and the game winning field goal, and it's

666
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: just like, man, this is how cruel life can be

667
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: and sports can be. That you have this great game

668
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: and that the Broncos you know, win this game in

669
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: such thrilling fashion and then you lose your starting like

670
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: it just takes the wind out of your sales, which is.

671
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: Why I'm I'm curious. I like that. Sean Payton just said,

672
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: just watch.

673
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: Now I'm getting I'm getting some Cody Kessler Hugh Jackson vibes.

674
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: He's like, Hey, don't worry, trust me, just watch.

675
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 4: Just watch.

676
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: But this is the same guy that you replaced Russell

677
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: Wilson with to end the season a couple of years.

678
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 4: Ago when they benched Russ. So maybe he does know something.

679
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Okay, we got a comment that says Stitty is not

680
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: ready to go. That was raw ra stuff, obviously. Okay,

681
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: A couple thoughts here. Number one, Sean Payton's been in

682
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: Denver for what three years? You know how I'm always

683
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: big on like statements of intent, like first plays of

684
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: the game. How about the first day of free agency

685
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: of Sean Payton's entire tenure. We knew he didn't like

686
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, he was inheriting Russell Wilson. What did he

687
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: do to my shock while covering it on around the

688
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: NFL back then, Like, what was the big Denver move

689
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: on the first day of Sean Payton's first.

690
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: NA signed Jared.

691
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: Signing Jared Stidham. What that's really what happened.

692
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Speaker 1: That's one thing I don't think that means, Okay, he's

693
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: gonna be great. The reason I give him a chance

694
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: in this next game, and it's obviously going to be

695
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: harder if it's Houston, but it'll be harder either way.

696
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: They gave him another contract two years after that first one.

697
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: He's been in that building for three years, and so

698
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: that second contract, and they gave him a good backup

699
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: quarterback contract, one of the best pure backup quarterback contracts

700
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: to bring him back this year and clearly backup bro Nicks.

701
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I mean Sean Payton, those quarterbacks, and

702
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: I've seen Sean Payton run up in awesome record in

703
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: New Orleans with quarterbacks not named Drew Brees. Like this

704
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: is not Bill Belichick's tenure. Although Belichick had castle in

705
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett. He had some moments Jimmy g and whatnot,

706
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: but overall it's not great Sean Payton. He won when

707
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill's out there, he won when Teddy's out there,

708
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: he won when Winston's out there. Like he's done it,

709
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: and he's had this guy in the building three years.

710
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: And for what it's worth, and this is the part

711
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: of the argument, I care about least he bawled out

712
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: in the preseason this year, for what it's worth, Like

713
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: he balled out in the preseason this year, Like he

714
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: put up great numbers for three straight games in the preseason.

715
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Speaker 2: I was like, did I remember that correctly? I think

716
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Speaker 2: he did.

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Speaker 1: And I went and checked, and like, he was pretty

718
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: great in this preseason, So like they have a backup

719
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Speaker 1: quarterback that they like.

720
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Speaker 3: It's funny because you said, did I remember that correctly?

721
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about Stidham screen, and I'm like, did I

722
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: remember a Raider's tenure? And I looked it up and

723
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: there was indeed a Raider's tenure in which he wasn't.

724
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's where he got paid. Must have seen

725
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: something in one of those games. I think he had

726
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: one great NFL start. He started about five games. He

727
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: hasn't played for the Broncos meaningful snap since twenty thirteen.

728
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: When you're right, he came in for Russell Wilson at

729
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: the end of the year, had one really good start,

730
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: I think, and one really bad start but even that was.

731
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Speaker 3: Eginy though too, because so I just did a QB

732
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: index this past week in which I looked at eight

733
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: free agent quarterbacks that teams can't afford to let go,

734
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 3: and all of them, almost all of them are backups,

735
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 3: because a valuable backup that you can trust is incredibly

736
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: worth Like it's incredibly valuable, like to have a quarterback

737
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 3: that you know knows your system and you can trust

738
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: to go in there and keep the ship afloat it is.

739
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: You pay them, you make sure that they don't leave

740
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 3: the Jacobi Brissetts of the world, and giving them the

741
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: second contract like you just described, I think that that

742
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: proves that they believe in him. Now we'll see in

743
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 3: the results. It's gonna be the MC championship games.

744
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: And if only they had Nick Foles. That's where I hesitate,

745
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: because I do remember some old podcasts when Nick took

746
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: over and we all just said, oh, their season's over, like,

747
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: and I remember even trying to make the case back

748
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: that I'm like, well, maybe they could win a playoff game,

749
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Like it's not that crazy. You go out there and

750
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: win a playoff game, maybe, And all Nick Foles did

751
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 1: was outplay Tom Brady in one of Tom Brady's best

752
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: performances in the Super Bowl. I don't think Jared Stidham's

753
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: going to do that, but he has a defense that

754
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: that's pretty great in a great play caller, and in

755
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: a one game tournament.

756
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see.

757
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's get a few other odds it ends,

758
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: and then let's get onto the forty nine ers games.

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00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: How about Nick Benito stealing six points here? There were

760
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: two turnovers that he forced back to back, and I

761
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Speaker 1: think this is one of the biggest plays of the

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00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: game and one of the reasons why the Josh Allen

763
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: haters will be out. They get the ball back seventeen

764
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Speaker 1: to ten with under twenty seconds to go in the

765
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Speaker 1: first half, and Josh Allen goes on a scramble to

766
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: absolutely nowhere. Benito forces the FuMB and then on the

767
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: first third down, and that's Benito showing incredible athleticism, you know,

768
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Speaker 1: running down Josh Allen from behind on that first one.

769
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Speaker 1: Then then you go to the start of the third quarter,

770
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Speaker 1: it's the second offensive play and he gets a strip

771
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Speaker 1: sack from behind where it's just one of those classic

772
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Speaker 1: Benito sacks. They end up settling for three. They don't

773
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Speaker 1: even get a first down. But in a game this close, shook,

774
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Speaker 1: there's Nick Benito taking out his aggression on all the

775
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: All Pro voters who didn't put him in. If I

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Speaker 1: had a vote, get me a vote, I would have

777
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: had him second team. We did our our All Pro

778
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: teams and I had him second team, but he did

779
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: not get the votes.

780
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Speaker 2: But two awesome plays there.

781
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Speaker 3: I'm glad that you described it like that, a classic

782
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: Benito rush, because so often this season you've seen him

783
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: come off the edge, fly around a guy who you

784
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: know tries to block him in vain, and just blast

785
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: a quarterback from his blindside and caused something like that.

786
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't it's not just the Bills, it's

787
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: the number of different opponents he's done it to this season.

788
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: I think it also kind of points to the fact

789
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: that like Khalil Shakir tries to block him and just

790
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: barely puts a hand on him, kind of points to

791
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: the fact that you're working with a thin receiving group. Also,

792
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: why would you try to put Khalil Shakir in that

793
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: position to block a guy who is deserving of All

794
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: Pro consideration?

795
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 9: Right?

796
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: Congrats to him. He really broke out last year, and

797
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: I think everybody's very familiar with who he is now.

798
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: But this is a guy who's been a top player

799
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: in a top prospect sins he was in high school.

800
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: And to see him deliver on a huge stage like

801
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: this game, it's just fun to watch. It's fun to

802
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: see somebody you know come through.

803
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in a game where they got out gained

804
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: and there there were tricky margins, they had to get

805
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: big plays out of their defense.

806
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: So I think their defense.

807
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: Can be a little overrated against good quality offenses, and

808
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: yet they are a big play defense, and forcing five

809
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: turnovers is as big a play.

810
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: Defense as you can get.

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Speaker 1: There's a comment here that says you don't have to

812
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: be a hater to think that's a horrible fumble on

813
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I think you are a hater.

814
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Speaker 4: The first one.

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Speaker 3: The first one where he's out running, Yeah, chuck the

816
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: ball away first off?

817
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 4: Can we dive on that real quick?

818
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: That's what that's true. That's a ghastly time management situation.

819
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Speaker 1: They don't even have any timeouts. I thought you meant

820
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: the blindside sack on that Benito had that is completely

821
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: just a great defensive play. Two of the four Allen

822
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: turnovers are just great defensive plays where I don't think

823
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: he's really at fault, and the other two are pretty brutal.

824
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: A specially, I want to dive into this play because

825
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: this is I had this thought at halftime right after

826
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: this happened. I thought the pressure of the Bills repeated

827
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: playoff failures I think motivated this decision and this approach.

828
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: The ghost of thirteen seconds influenced Sean McDermott in their

829
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: approach here, because there's sixteen seconds left in the clock,

830
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: they have no timeouts, they're deep in their own territory.

831
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: What could you possibly get out of this other than

832
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: a deep shot that happens to land in the arms

833
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 3: of Brandon Cooks and sets up a field goal.

834
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's on Allen.

835
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Speaker 4: It's on Alan.

836
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: It's on the coach for calling a play to try

837
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 3: to push the ball downfield when you had no timeouts.

838
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: But it's on Allen for mismanaging it by trying to

839
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: scramble nowhere near out of bounds. Even if you pick

840
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: up the first down, you're not gonna have time to

841
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: run another play. Just just get down, get to halftime.

842
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: This is where interviews before halftime can be useful because

843
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: they got mcdernett right out of that, and I'm glad

844
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: Tracy Wolfson asked about it and he said, look, we

845
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: you know they were calling a play hoping to get

846
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: a play going towards the sideline down the field and

847
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: otherwise we got to, you know, not turn the ball over.

848
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, like that's a coaching point that Josh Allen,

849
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: of course, he gets it that, like, you know, you

850
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: gotta either if the throw is not there, throw it

851
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: out of bounds or and he's just trying to make

852
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: something happen, and it made no sense.

853
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: It was brutal.

854
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: The other interception which came right after bo Nix's interception,

855
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: which which wasn't even.

856
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: A horrible play by Nix.

857
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Speaker 1: It was like a defensive lineman dropping into coverage. Josh

858
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: Allen kind of predetermined that throw, and you know that's

859
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: a point in the game where they're on a roll

860
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: and I know they end up score another ten straight

861
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: points after that. But ultimately, and now that I kind

862
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: of look back at the game, like he predetermined that

863
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: he has the pump fake. He thinks it's gonna work

864
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: to get the safety off. It doesn't he throws in interception.

865
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: I think the game was lost more than anywhere. Shook

866
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: in the scenario where the Bills defense stopped Buffalo five

867
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: straight drives. But in those five drives, like Alan turned

868
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: it over.

869
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, two more and these plays and.

870
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: You had to be close to perfect, and they just

871
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: they just didn't if you at least needed punts there,

872
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like the fact that in

873
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: those five street drives they turned it over twice in

874
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: the middle of.

875
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 3: These plays kind of inform why Josh an emotional Josh

876
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: after the game said he let his team down because

877
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: in a game in which you lose by three points

878
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: in overtime, you gave the other team a free three

879
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: points by fumbling it just before halftime, and you didn't

880
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: capitalize on a great defensive play when you threw that interception.

881
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: And in the playoffs the margin is so slim. And

882
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: he knows that he knows it's not the interception he

883
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: throws in overtime that that loses end the game. That's

884
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: not even probably what he's thinking about. It's it's the

885
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: fubble right before halftime, and it's that interception to PJ.

886
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: Lock because you got to cash in the immediate sudden

887
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: change the takeaway in a big spot there, and then

888
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 3: you can't afford to give the other team three points

889
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: when you end up losing by three points.

890
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: Ah, it's a he giveth and take it away though,

891
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: because he yes, that's the most part.

892
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: Is he good plays?

893
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like like the flip that he made, like

894
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 1: he was under siege at various points in the game.

895
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: Just even on that overtime drive alone, he was so calm, like,

896
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: you know, right near the goal line. I'm thinking, like

897
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: the game could end right here, bro, And he's just

898
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: so calm with pressure around him, and he ends up

899
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: hitting a third and five where they only rushed to

900
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: and stayed calm. He was well protected on that. And

901
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: then there's another third and seven where he audibles to

902
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: a screen to pick it up and I'm thinking like, oh,

903
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: that's all the next level like growth that Josh Allen

904
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: has showed to hit that play. And then in the

905
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: end he's not rewarded and the Bills aren't rewarded for Yeah, game,

906
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: I think if you can out gain the Broncos considering

907
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: the talent disadvantage, they did a lot of things right

908
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: their offensive line actually think played great the Broncos and

909
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: we will move off this, but it's crazy.

910
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: They blitzed.

911
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: Almost half the time shook when they blitzed. I couldn't

912
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: believe this. When they blitzed five or six rushers, they

913
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: had a twenty pressure ring like they're blitzed.

914
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 11: Like.

915
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: The offensive line was awesome. This is the unit that

916
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: would have carried them to the super Bowl. So when

917
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: you say Josh Allen doesn't have nothing, I mean he

918
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: has James Cook going for over one hundred and forty

919
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage in this game. He has his offensive

920
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: line mashing in the run game, and he has his

921
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: offensive line protecting their ass off tonight. So it's not

922
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: like they're without talent. And that's kind of the last

923
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 1: thing is like they did do a lot of things,

924
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: and you.

925
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 3: Know that points toward and because look, when when games

926
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: like this happen, it's the reaction is overly reductive. You

927
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: know you're gonna point to the flags, people are gonna

928
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: want to call for a coach's head or whatever. The

929
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: Bills coaching staff did a great job. They did a

930
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 3: great job this entire postseason, way better than I ever thought.

931
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 4: They would.

932
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: I thought Joe Brady called a great game. They did

933
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 3: a great job of adjusting end game to regain an advantage.

934
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: And that's why it's so painful, because you did pretty

935
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: much everything right except your quarterback, who is your superstar

936
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: that you can always count on, turn the ball over

937
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: too many times and found and those those small errors

938
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: really cost.

939
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 4: You the game.

940
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: But it wasn't one of those instances where you're like,

941
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: it's the coaching staff's fault. No, No, they did a

942
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: great job and that's just why it's so painful for

943
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: this team to lose again.

944
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: Wow, they went ten to fifteen on third down in

945
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: the in the Broncos went eight of sixteen. I mean

946
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: it was there was a lot going on. I mean,

947
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: Mims steps up, someton, who's goosegg through most of the game.

948
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: Ends up having a huge stretch in the fourth quarter

949
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: in overtime with four big catches late, Alex Singleton forces

950
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: two different fumbles. You know, fumble luck was a little

951
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: bit of the story here. Five fumbles right in this game.

952
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: Now six fumbles in this game total, and uh yeah,

953
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: the Bills only recovered two of the six. And then

954
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: there was also a Broncos fumble that was overturned by

955
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: penalty early in the game because Larry Ogan Jobi was offside.

956
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: So that's really like seven fumbles where like five of

957
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: the times the Broncos ended up on the better side.

958
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: But they made their luck. They were the best in

959
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: the biggest of spots. We've we've said it enough of

960
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: this game, but I I know I've said it before,

961
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: but I think that's the game of the year. You

962
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: know what, wasn't the game of the year. Come on,

963
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: the biggest, the biggest of stakes. Come on, I'm a

964
00:45:49,680 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: prisoner at the moment. You know it wasn't the game

965
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: of the year. But one of the best performances of

966
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: the year happened in Seattle day and it was by

967
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks defense.

968
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: Let's go to Seattle.

969
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 8: Jeez it up, looks down field, shot forward and we're

970
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 8: off and running and over end.

971
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: Sure Heat had his own.

972
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 8: Five across to ten, fifteen, twenty cut straight.

973
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 12: Up field, has a cap cut off the forty good

974
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 12: Field fifty trying to tip.

975
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: A boat at him, trying it down share here to.

976
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 12: The US Holy Cup. Fitch open the game with a

977
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 12: ninety five yard touchdown. Shay y'all.

978
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: Rashid Shaheed, part of a ridiculously productive and effective year

979
00:46:52,080 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: of player acquisition by the Pittmaster himself. John Schneider called

980
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: him that on a blue sky I'm like, I'm stealing that.

981
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: That's so good.

982
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was pitting out again, but you can you

983
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: can sweat, John Schneider cut in your shirt because you

984
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: weren't sweating out this game.

985
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

986
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: The Seahawks beat the forty nine Ers forty one to six.

987
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: It's rare that we open with the first play of

988
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: the game, but by the time they went up two scores,

989
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: I was.

990
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: Like, I think this game's over. I don't.

991
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't think they're getting up off

992
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: the mat. And I I'm usually not that guy. I'm

993
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: always like, no teams could go back this one. Just

994
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: the way that place was rocking, and the way this

995
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: defense has feasted on the forty nine ers offense the

996
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: last three weeks.

997
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: I just it fell over right.

998
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: Now at the beginning, it did. I mean, there's no

999
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 4: better way. Let's let's go back in real time, real quick.

1000
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 3: Okay, So we just watched this crazy game in overtime

1001
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: between Denver and Buffalo in which Denver wins in a

1002
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 3: game winning field goal.

1003
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 4: And I'm not kidding you. All you got to do

1004
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: is flip the fox.

1005
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: You'll barely catch any of Kevin Burkhart and Tom Brady

1006
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: because Rashiji Heat's too busy taking the kick. The opening

1007
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 3: kickback for a touchdown in which Niners kicker Eddie Pinero

1008
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 3: desperately tries to slide tackle Shheed and misses and draws

1009
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: a tripping flag. That doesn't matter. It's seven to nothing already.

1010
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 3: Doug Baldwin was just raising the twelve flag sixty seconds earlier,

1011
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 3: and they're already up seven to nothing, and then the

1012
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: place that's notorious for being one of the loudest in

1013
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: the NFL is going crazy.

1014
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 4: And you're right.

1015
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: I think by the time they went up seventeen nothing.

1016
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 3: It was the fashion in which they did. They get

1017
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: a takeaway off of a fumble. Sam Donald rips a

1018
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 3: seed to Jackson Smith and Jigba because who else would

1019
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: catch a great pass for a touchdown other than JSN

1020
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: in the corner of the end zone. It's seventeen nothing,

1021
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: and it's like the Niners just got bludgeoned. They just

1022
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: absolutely blindsided and unfortunately looked a lot like their Week

1023
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: eighteen game, in which their offense had no answer for

1024
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: what Seattle's defense was doing. It's another example of how

1025
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: great of a defense Seattle owns, and it's a beautiful

1026
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: sight in the year twenty twenty six that two of

1027
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: the remaining playoff teams as of Saturday night into Sunday

1028
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: morning have some two of the best defenses that we've

1029
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: seen in quite a while.

1030
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: Oh.

1031
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: I love the comment in the chat right now saying

1032
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: that the Seahawks defense was sick of hearing how great

1033
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: the Texans are and they got a match. And I've

1034
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: been careful this whole season and even during the Texans

1035
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: celebration over the Steelers, to always include the Seahawks there,

1036
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: because to me, these are two of the best defenses

1037
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: we've seen in a long time, full stop. Like I

1038
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: think they each and I'd have to go through it,

1039
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 1: but they each have a case to be made for

1040
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: the best defense of this decade so far. But they're

1041
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: both that good, and they do it in different ways,

1042
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: and this is from each in every level of the defense.

1043
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: Just swarming.

1044
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is all over the place today. Byron Murphy

1045
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: I think has been so underrated nationally and was making

1046
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: plays in this game. And the thing that stands out

1047
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: to me more than anything was Rock Purdy's time to throw.

1048
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: Was over four two seconds.

1049
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: It was the biggest time to throw of any game

1050
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: in the next Gen stats era. So that's through twenty sixteen.

1051
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: And that's why it's tough to just point out one

1052
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: person shook, because you got an entire secondary just plastering

1053
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: these guys in their zone coverage where they just communicate

1054
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: and they match.

1055
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: You're the ex'es and O's guru.

1056
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: What is it about what they do sort of from

1057
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: a back to front method that you like best, because

1058
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: obviously the front is great too, and we could talk

1059
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: all about that, but to me, like the secondary is

1060
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: probably the biggest reason why he's holding onto the ball.

1061
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 4: That's complimentary.

1062
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: I think what you start with is like this kind

1063
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: of umbrella, Like you think about it coming from like

1064
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: a quarter's perspective, but like you see a lot of

1065
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: two looks, but they're still kind of getting that shell

1066
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: over the top, right. But the beauty of it is

1067
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: how complimentary it is, which is that you can trust

1068
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: that back end to places to gee coverage and you

1069
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: can trust the front four to get pressure without needing

1070
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: to send extra guys, not that they're afraid to do it,

1071
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: because they like to send extra guys, but they don't

1072
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: have to do it.

1073
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 4: They they actually blitz it.

1074
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: In the NFL times, And that.

1075
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: Was the big key going to this game was brock

1076
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: Perty's pretty good against the blitz, but he's not good

1077
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 3: against here. He's pretty good when he's not being blitzed,

1078
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: and he's not good against the blitz.

1079
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 4: But the Seahawks don't really blitz.

1080
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: But they also generate one of the highest pressure rates

1081
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: organically with their front four of anybody in the NFL,

1082
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: So maybe the blitz won't even matter, and maybe that's

1083
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: what tits the scales. If they do decide to blitz,

1084
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 3: they didn't have to because that's how good their defense is.

1085
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 4: So they complicate the picture.

1086
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 3: They play sticky coverage, and that rush consistently causes enough

1087
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: pressure without sending any extra guys that there's just no

1088
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: windows to throw to. How many times do we see

1089
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: in this game where rock Party sat back, sat back,

1090
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: couldn't find anybody?

1091
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 4: Obviously, George Kill not part of the equation.

1092
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: Jake Tung just ends up playing a big part of

1093
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 3: this offense because they still need to go to their

1094
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: tight end. That's part of their offense. But he ends

1095
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 3: up checking it down to Christian McCaffrey repeatedly because there's

1096
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: nobody else open, and when everybody else is covered, you

1097
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: got to find your checkdown. And that was the sign

1098
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 3: right then and there where it's like they're never going

1099
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: to be able to keep up. It didn't even matter

1100
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: what Seattle's doing offensively. The fact that they had a

1101
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: seventeen nothing lead, it felt like anough because you just

1102
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: knew they weren't going to be able to keep up

1103
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: because nobody was ever open for them in the Niners offense,

1104
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 3: which has been predicated by the pass in this hot stretch,

1105
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 3: down the stretch the back end of the season. If

1106
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: they can't throw the football down the field, they're never

1107
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 3: getting anywhere. The inbreakers that party loves to throw, they

1108
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: were not there for most of this game. He had

1109
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: nowhere to go.

1110
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they know this offense so well. I thought it

1111
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: was really telling when Kyle Shannon said there's not a

1112
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: lot of secrets between these two teams coming into the game.

1113
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: I think that's true, and I think that's unfortunately true

1114
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: for him because I think he's overmatched. This is a

1115
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: defense that McDonald has spent his life building in a

1116
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: way in terms of I think he's at the peak,

1117
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: like schematically in the NFL right now of what he

1118
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: wants to do. But also he's been building for a

1119
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: couple of seasons to this moment. He inherited a lot

1120
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: of really good players. They've added more good players, and

1121
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: it's a great combination of depth and talent, for instance,

1122
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: like five different pass rushers with multiple pressures. But I

1123
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: really think it's the back end where they essentially have

1124
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: six dvs on the field so often, and it's it's

1125
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: these little guy these guys coming back from injury that

1126
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: don't get huge headlines, but Julian Love really helps them

1127
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: coming back because at certain points Nick Game and Worry

1128
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: was getting picked on in coverage a little bit, even

1129
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: though he's a bit of a Jenga piece where he

1130
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: can take he can guard almost anyone. But now you

1131
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: have Julian Love and Kobe Bryant, who's had some injuries

1132
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: this year, he's back there too. And you know, Reek

1133
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: Wolland doesn't even have to play every stat but he's

1134
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: back there too, and suddenly you're very deep and you

1135
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: have an all pro cornerback in Witherspoon, and just like

1136
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: there's really no big weakness.

1137
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 4: Don't forget job.

1138
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: He can always job right to deploy the right guy

1139
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: in the right matchup and then let the offense be complimentary.

1140
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: You mentioned that touchdown early. It was a quiet night

1141
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: for Jackson Smith and Jigba. What did he end up

1142
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: with only three catches for nineteen yards? But he did

1143
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: get that score. And this was a great moment for

1144
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold in his first playoff win.

1145
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 8: Walker the single setback playfake to him. Sam is gonna

1146
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 8: roll left looking looking Sam throws pack of the ends on.

1147
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: There's a Cawny.

1148
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 12: Mountain is touchdown, Sayhawks far back corner of the hand zone.

1149
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: Guess whom.

1150
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 11: It is?

1151
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 8: Number eleven Jackson Smith in jackbaw.

1152
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: Smooth touchdown celebration, very well choreographed, like we've totally been

1153
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: here before, We're ready for it. That put them up

1154
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing in the first quarter, And yeah, it felt

1155
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: over there.

1156
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 2: I thought, I.

1157
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: Thought Donald, Look, he's the quarterback, so you're gonna discuss him.

1158
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: He goes twelve for seventeen for one hundred and twenty

1159
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: four yards in a touchdown.

1160
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: He did what he need to do.

1161
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: There's all the pregame stuff about the oblique injury and

1162
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: he didn't come out until last second. A lot of

1163
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: speculation is even gonna play like maybe he got it

1164
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: shot up, who knows. But he did what he needed

1165
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: to do in this game. What do you think about

1166
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: the performance from the time.

1167
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 3: I think you don't need much from Sam Darnald and

1168
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 3: you can run the ball with authority, which is what

1169
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: they did throughout this game, just like they did in

1170
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 3: Week eighteen. Kenny Walker goes nineteen for one, sixteen and

1171
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: three touchdowns. You didn't even really need much from Sharpona.

1172
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: You got sheed twice for twenty seven like you ran

1173
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 3: as a team for one seventy five. You don't need

1174
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 3: your quarterback to do much when your defense is playing

1175
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: that good of football and stopping the opposing offense everywhere

1176
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 3: the entire game, forcing two field goals, and there wasn't

1177
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: a real threat from the forty nin ers offense. Oh

1178
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: if do just play ball control. Oh and by the way,

1179
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 3: you're running attack has been excellent over the second half

1180
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: of the season. Dominated this same team a couple of

1181
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: weeks ago, why not lean on it again. It just

1182
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 3: felt like the Unfortunately for the forty nine ers, it

1183
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: became a mismatch. The matchup of these two teams that

1184
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 3: produced such a thrilling Week one game was not the

1185
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: same by Week eighteen, and it was not the same

1186
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: in this In this instance, you know the divisional round,

1187
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: and that's what happens sometimes. But Seattle is a machine,

1188
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 3: and you can't stand up to a machine when you're

1189
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 3: banged up and just as limited as the Niners are.

1190
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: So Tom Brady said in the second half, if they

1191
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over, like, I don't see this

1192
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: team base like. If they don't turn the ball over,

1193
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: it is going to be really hard for this team

1194
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: to lose. It's probably true, but I would just tweak

1195
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: it slightly, which is that if they can run the ball,

1196
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: to put it in Darnald like, I, yeah, I guess

1197
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: there's a scenario where they run it great and Donald

1198
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: Fritz is out. But I just feel like they had

1199
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: a fifty four percent success rate on a night where

1200
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: they were playing with the lead and running the whole time.

1201
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: I said it all year, when they run the ball

1202
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: well and It hasn't been every week, but it pretty

1203
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: much has been every week for the last month.

1204
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 2: They're the best.

1205
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: Team in football, full stop, uh, in general, and we've

1206
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: set it on NFL daily for three months now. I

1207
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: think the Seahawks and the Rams have been a tier

1208
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: above the rest of the NFL the whole season where

1209
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: one went away from getting that match up.

1210
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that that the two times they've

1211
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 3: played have been very indicative of the method of success

1212
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: for the Seahawks that's available. The route to a championship

1213
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 3: for the Seahawks is exactly as you described, because let's

1214
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: think about the first time those two teams played. And yes,

1215
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: the Rams still have to beat the Bears. And I'm

1216
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 3: not counting the Bears out by any means, but since.

1217
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: We out, not many people are I saw in good

1218
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: boarding football.

1219
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're the darling. They're the darling right now right.

1220
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 3: But if we're putting the Rams and the Seahawks in

1221
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: the same tier, that's who we're comparing them to, a

1222
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: tier above the rest. And in that first game, the

1223
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: theme that we took away from it was Sam Darnold's

1224
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: interceptions doom the Seahawks. They still only lost that game

1225
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: by a slim margin. Then you go to the Seattle

1226
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 3: game where he has a similarly nightmarish first half, then

1227
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 3: wakes up, figures it out, and throws them back into

1228
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: the game, and it's a thriller. That's the formula that

1229
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 3: you don't want to follow in the playoffs, but you create.

1230
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 3: You end up with that formula because you don't run

1231
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: the ball well because you have to throw your way

1232
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 3: back into the game because of turnovers. So again, if

1233
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: you can limit them and just ride Kenneth Walker, ride

1234
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: sharp and a control time of possession, lean on that defense,

1235
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: you could win low scoring games all the way to

1236
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: a Lombardi Trophy.

1237
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1238
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: I I look at a few plays in this game

1239
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: that make me feel good about Donald, and some of

1240
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: the stats are crazy. I kept updating it throughout the game.

1241
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: They had they were up twenty four to six at

1242
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: that point.

1243
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: That was the half.

1244
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: They had fifty six net yards passing. Not bad when

1245
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: you can up twenty four to six fifty four yards passing.

1246
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: But you know what's even better than that? How about

1247
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: Sam Donald left the game. I wrote this down somewhere.

1248
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find it now. Sam Donald left the

1249
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: game with a forty one to six lead. Drew Locke

1250
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: played most of the fourth quarter. At the time that

1251
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: he left the game, they only had one hundred and

1252
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: six net yards passing. You're right, you put a forty

1253
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: burger on him with one hundred and six netyard passing

1254
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 1: and that includes some like big sacks that Donald took.

1255
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: But actually the one of the like three really good

1256
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: throws Donald had in this game, look, he only had

1257
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: twelve completions, was after he took kind of a ghastly

1258
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: classic Darnold sack where you're like, why did you just,

1259
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, take a twelve yard sack, and then he

1260
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: rips a deep out to Coop It was second in

1261
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: eighteen or second and twenty two or something, and then

1262
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: he rips a deep out to Cooper Cup to either

1263
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: pick up the first down or make a third one.

1264
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: I forget which, but it was an awesome throw, and

1265
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, like the oblique's not bothering him,

1266
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: and he had that touchdown throw was great, and the

1267
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: couple times where he let going through it like it

1268
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect, but he had enough good throws in this

1269
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: game that I wasn't worried now he has a week.

1270
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: Yeah again, numbers can be deceiving.

1271
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 6: Two.

1272
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: Because the Seahawks, outside of the kick return touchdown to

1273
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: start the game, they had nine possessions, nearly half of them,

1274
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: four of them started in San Francisco territory. Those are

1275
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: extra opportunities given to you by your defense. The results

1276
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: of those four possessions touchdown, field goal, touchdown, touchdown. That's

1277
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: how you blow out a team without racking up a

1278
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: ton of numbers.

1279
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: Offensively, right, that's not their fault that it was on

1280
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: short fields. It's a great point, and that's what great

1281
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: teams do. It really felt like it was over. I

1282
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: agree with the comment in thirteen seconds in this game,

1283
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: what the heck, let's let's hear Steve Rabel. It's ki

1284
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: r We've been using their calls throughout the game. You

1285
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: mentioned how ken Walker got three touchdowns. I'd like to

1286
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: hear how that place was sounding when they put the

1287
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: forty burger on the Niners.

1288
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 8: Time the handoff Walker, he's coming back to the right side.

1289
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 12: He he's gonna score touchdown Seahawks ken Walker.

1290
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: The third strips in around the right side. Great blocking.

1291
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 8: The Niners haven't stopped it yet his third touchdown of

1292
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 8: the night. Ken Walker I think might get a game

1293
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 8: ball by the time this is over. And knowing K

1294
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 8: and I, he'll give it to his offensive line.

1295
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 4: What a job they did.

1296
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 8: I mean, just huge gaps him.

1297
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: That forty nine or defense that play there, Gray is

1298
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 3: able to getting a second level on the back and

1299
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 3: then your center, your front side blocker gets out in

1300
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 3: front and just sits down on the remaining defender of beauty.

1301
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: Just art art in in execution when it comes to

1302
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: the running game. But you know what, Greg, I think

1303
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: back because this was a classic matchup, and we always

1304
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: think about the twenty thirteen NFC Championship game, and there

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Speaker 3: was that quote that Richard Sherman had after one of

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Speaker 3: the great bards of our time. Richard Sherman said, don't

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Speaker 3: you talk about the best, or I'm gonna shut up

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Speaker 3: on you real quick. The Seahawks did that as a

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Speaker 3: team to.

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Speaker 4: The forty nine Ers tonight.

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Speaker 2: I felt bad for the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Look, they overachieved this season, not just because of the injuries,

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01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: but because of the roster turnover. Even that touchdown to

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Speaker 1: JSN you know who got lost in coverage. There was

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Speaker 1: Marcus Siegle. Like Siegle like a fifth round rookie who

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01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: was replacing jay Y R. Brown who got hurt just

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Speaker 1: last week. In this game, Christian McCaffrey gets hurt, came

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01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: back in, but like he wasn't healthy in the game.

1319
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: He had a stinger and missed a couple drives to

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Speaker 1: start the second half. Like Ton just gets hurt in

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Speaker 1: this game. They do get de Winters back in this game,

1322
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: but I'm just thinking, like they were just so shorthanded.

1323
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: So many forty nine er seasons have ended this way,

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01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: but I think they were up for the fight. It

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Speaker 1: was a great moment that they had last week. I

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Speaker 1: think they can look at this offseason as one to

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Speaker 1: push forward and have a lot of pieces in place. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kittle's coming off that Achilles, but they're they're

1329
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Speaker 1: not far away. They're just stuck in the NFC West,

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Speaker 1: which is absolutely loaded, and so they're gonna have to

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01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: load up and get healthy. Ricky Piersoll was supposed to

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Speaker 1: play in this game. I mean, he did play in

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Speaker 1: this game, but you really didn't feel his impact at all,

1334
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: and they're you know, there's not much good that you

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01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: can say here. I didn't love that Kyle Shanahan like

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01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: kicked a couple of times for the six points, came

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01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,959
Speaker 1: on fourth and six and fourth and three, fairly deep

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01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: into Seattle's end on a day where you were trailing

1339
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: a lot early.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but here's the thing.

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01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 3: How demoralizing is is it if you get down there

1342
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 3: and you don't get any points twice?

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01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: Hey, you know it's demoralizing losing forty one to six.

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01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you didn't matter.

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01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: That's why I hate even bringing it up, because I

1346
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: just met like the only way that they were ever

1347
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: Like he kicked the field goal down seventeen to three

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01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: and seventeen nothing, and I'm just thinking, like they're gonna

1349
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: need four touchdowns in this game, like you gotta get

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01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: you gotta get one of them here. Man, what a

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01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: team this, Seattle Seahawks. Do you think they want to

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01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: play the Rams or the Bears?

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 3: I would imagine they probably want to play well, I

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01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 3: don't know, familiarity, it's one one split there.

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Speaker 4: They might want to play the Rams.

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01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 3: I would think they want to play the Bears because

1357
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: the Bears defense is very average that they don't get takeaways.

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01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: Don't try to be here skills.

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01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: I think the Bears very clearly have bigger weaknesses on defense.

1360
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: The Rams and the Seahawks are so familiar with each other.

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01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: The Rams are the one team that has made Seattle's

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01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: defense look mortal. Actually Tampa really did too in that

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01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: one game way back in Week six, but since they

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01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: really got rolling even better down the stretch, it really

1365
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: was just that Rams game in Seattle for three quarters,

1366
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: where let's be honest, Seattle stole that game, just like

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01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: kind of the Rams stole the first game. And I

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01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: do have a feeling we're going to get a rubber match,

1369
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: but maybe the Bears fans can point out how wrong

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01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: I am. Later Sunday night, we'll be doing that show

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01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: me you and Patrick. But before we get out of here, okay,

1372
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: because that's it for the Seahawks, let's add ounce some news.

1373
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: Where do we even want to start? How about the

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01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons hiring a new coach? And yes, we appreciate

1375
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: everyone that is staying up late with us on the

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,640
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1377
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:03,520
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Speaker 1: we saw some of our Canadian friends. Let us know

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1382
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Speaker 1: listening in your ears too, like we could use some comments,

1383
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01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: We're working hard on these Saturday nights. I'm glad we're

1386
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: doing this as an extra this season on NFL Daily

1387
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: And once we turn this off. By the way, I'm

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01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: not going to be watching New Zealand, but I will

1389
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: be watching the Australian Open very soon little tennis on

1390
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: my Saturday night. To wrap things up, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: your Browns coach, Kevin Stefanski taking the Atlanta Falcons job.

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Speaker 2: I will give you the floor. Stefanski to the Falcons.

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01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: What do you think?

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01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 3: I think it represents an upgrade, And it's not a

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01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 3: surprise at all, because not an upgrade necessarily over Raheem

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01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 3: Morris as much as an offensive upgrade for a team

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01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 3: that has desperately needed it. Even back to the Arthur

1398
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 3: Smith days when they're rolling with Mariota and Desmond Ritter.

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01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: They have a quarterback that they believe in in Michael

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01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 3: Pennix that that needs to demonstrate progress in year three.

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01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 3: I think Kevin Sefanci marries well with him, and he

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 3: also has Kirk Cousins, the guy he's very familiar with,

1403
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: to work with. And if you're gonna get anybody acclimated

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 3: who's young to a Stefanci offense, why not use the

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 3: quarterback who thrived in the one year that year and

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01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 3: a half to Fancy was his offensive coordinator to help

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01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 3: out with Michael Pennick.

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01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 4: So it makes a lot of sense.

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01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: I also think that Beijon back there is going to

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01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 3: thrive with Stefancy's offense. And if fashion similar to what

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01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb enjoyed, if you're able to build a staff

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01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 3: that includes some of the other, you know, former standout

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01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 3: assistants that were in Cleveland, like a Bill Callahan for example,

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01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: in the offensive line, that could really elevate this team.

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 3: And it's interesting that, you know, the new president of football,

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01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 3: Matt Ryan, follows Arthur Blank's demands or suggestions recommendations that

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 3: do find leadership. Kevin Sefanci is a two time Coach

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01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 3: of the Year. You know, he piloted the Browns their

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01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 3: most consistent stretch of success since they've been back since

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01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 3: since ninety nine. And yes, the bar is low for that,

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01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 3: but the guy's proven he can coach when he has

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01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 3: a competent roster, and the Falcons believe they have a

1423
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 3: competent roster. I'm very curious to see who he fills

1424
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: out his staff with, though on the defensive side. But

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01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 3: I think that it's a great move for them, and

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01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: it's kind of a no brainer. I thought he was

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Speaker 3: the best remaining coach available after Harbaugh went to the Giants.

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Speaker 3: And congratulations to the Falcons for getting it done so quickly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that timing's really interesting. I think they

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01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: just they're trying to beat every one of the punch. Yeah,

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01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: and Stefanski would have been a strong candidate in a

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01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: number of places like Tennessee. And I think if you're

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: going to give Arthur Blank credit for the Matt Ryan

1434
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: higher like, I think Matt Ryan helps to get this done.

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: You know Stefanski and Ryan, and look, I wouldn't have

1436
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: known this until this happened, until like he got this

1437
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: second interview and there was some buzz building that you know,

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01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: they were close, that they both grew up in the

1439
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: Philadelphia area playing high school football like nearby, they played

1440
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: college football.

1441
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: Near each other.

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01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: I didn't really ever, I didn't even know Kevin Stefanski

1443
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: played college football, but he was at PEN while Ryan

1444
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: was at BC. But I think that the key not

1445
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 1: only that they had a relationship going back all that way,

1446
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: but the key to me that was pointed out by

1447
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: Josh Kendall in The Athletic earlier this week was you

1448
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: know Ryan's coached under or or played under.

1449
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 2: Who was it Bill Musgrave?

1450
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: And who coached Matt Ryan who Kevin Stefanski also created under?

1451
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 2: And there and because I was like, what is the

1452
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 2: connection here?

1453
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: Because it's always about connections, and so these are two

1454
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: men who actually did know each other pretty well, even

1455
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: though it's not like a guy who worked for each other.

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01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: And obviously he's a quarterbacks guy, and so there are

1457
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: the connections there. There's like the familiarity and if I'm

1458
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: a Falcons fan, I'm really excited.

1459
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: I'm shocked.

1460
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of Falcons fans very unhappy with

1461
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: this move, which I was like, I'm I think they're

1462
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 1: just at the point where they're unhappy with anything.

1463
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 4: The foult who did they want?

1464
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know who they wanted.

1465
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: Apparently, like the Raheem Higher at the time was more

1466
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: popular and Arthur Smith, who were kind of buzzy candidates

1467
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: at the time, and Stefanski feels like a retread, but uh,

1468
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a really good hire.

1469
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 3: Raheem was a retread, right, And that's the problem with

1470
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 3: the coaching cycle is that fan bases fall in love

1471
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 3: with candidates because of name recognition, and they look at

1472
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 3: Stefanski and associated him with the Browns that went three

1473
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: and fourteen and five and twelve in the last two years,

1474
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: and I think, oh, we're gonna get this guy who

1475
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 3: was terrible and just got fired.

1476
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, the fit makes a ton of sense.

1477
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 4: Just give it time. I think it'll work out. It's

1478
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 4: a good higher for them.

1479
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: Just to clarify that, Stefanski was the assistant quarterbacks coach

1481
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: in Minnesota under Bill Musgrave, who was also Ryan's quarterbacks

1482
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:55,799
Speaker 1: coach in the first five seasons of Matt Ryan's career.

1483
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: So an interesting I believe in there.

1484
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 3: I think I think Musgrave was a consultant with the

1485
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 3: brown in recent years as well.

1486
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree with our buddy I'm on here

1487
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: from the Philippines. The Falcons are lucky to get Stefanski too,

1488
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: because I just think for what they need. It'll be

1489
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: interesting if this does impact the Kirk Cousins decision or not. Look,

1490
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: they just restructured his contract in a way that made

1491
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: it really seem like they were going to cut him.

1492
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: It was a type of contract restructure that makes it

1493
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: easier to cut him, but it's not a guarantee that

1494
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: he has to get cut. Stefanski was the quarterbacks coach

1495
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins for Minnesota for one season. In that season,

1496
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: he actually got elevated to offensive coordinator, and then he

1497
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator for cut next to one more

1498
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: season yep as well. So there's a connection there that

1499
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: it's not crazy at all in my mind if you

1500
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 1: really believe in Michael Pennix to think of Kirk.

1501
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 2: As the best you're going to do for a bridge,

1502
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 2: you know.

1503
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, like just he's your mentor at minimum, he's your

1504
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 3: mentor ridge for now. He just did that job under

1505
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 3: a different staff this year, and then he can mentor

1506
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 3: you know, uh Pennix through the Stefanski offense and get

1507
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: him acclimated and increases his chances of success.

1508
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna need someone to play. He's not going

1509
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: to be playing week one, or you know he's probably not.

1510
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 4: So I'm just saying like his increase the chances of

1511
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 4: success earlier.

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01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: In his tenure under Stefanski, and then in terms of

1513
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: the timing of it in that and then we'll move on.

1514
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,440
Speaker 1: Not only does they get ahead of everyone hiring Stefanski

1515
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: and here's the key part, they get ahead of everyone

1516
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: for hiring the rest of the Stefanski's staff. And we'll

1517
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: see it's going to be competitive out there. Varying reports

1518
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 1: indicate the first one from Ian Rappaport that Jeff Olbrook,

1519
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: who was there and did great work last year with

1520
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris, is likely to stay with So that's huge.

1521
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, like knowing you can keep Olbrick if you're

1522
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: getting stefanskat enough there's a relationship there, or just Lana

1523
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: is gonna pay him enough money and he's comfortable, his

1524
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: family's been there for a couple years, whatever it is.

1525
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: That's huge.

1526
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: And then Diana Rossini of the Athletic says, don't be surprised,

1527
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,759
Speaker 1: Slash kind of expect that they're going to bring Brian Callahan.

1528
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean rather Bill Callahan, not Brian Kelli. And Bill

1529
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: Callahan the offensive line coach from the Browns who's done

1530
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: awesome work as an offensive line coach, and Tommy Reese

1531
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: would probably come in as the offensive coordinator under Stefanski.

1532
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: And suddenly you're like, Okay, that's a pretty that's a

1533
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: pretty good looking staff. And believe me, Jeff Ulbrick, if

1534
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: he's not going to get a head coach in chance,

1535
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's going to, like would be

1536
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: almost at the very top of the defensive coordinator hier

1537
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: in this market where like ten teams are looking for it,

1538
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: so you're beating everyone.

1539
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: To the punt.

1540
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has a domino effect too on the remain

1541
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator market. If you want to tie it back

1542
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 3: to Cleveland that you know Schwartz is, you know, interviewing

1543
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 3: getting second interviews with the Browns. If he's not going

1544
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: to go follow us to Fanski to Atlanta, then that's

1545
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 3: a candidate that's still going to be out there for

1546
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 3: somebody to hire it as well.

1547
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: True, So that's that's really interesting. I think a good

1548
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: move for Atlanta. We'll see see how it plays out.

1549
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: I had my concerns of like, what did Matt Ryan

1550
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: really do to like earn this, But then you hear

1551
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: him speak and you're like, well, I believe in this

1552
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:20,839
Speaker 1: man like he does seem smart. I would follow you anywhere,

1553
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. So I'm rooting for you. And unlike Tom Brady,

1554
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: You're not doing it as your sixth or seventh you know,

1555
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: different job like on the side, you're doing it, so

1556
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: I respect that. The other news tonight, there's been a

1557
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: couple but the big bigger news tonight was that Matt

1558
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 1: Lafleur and Brian Guda Kuns have reached agreement. According to

1559
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: again Diane Rassini and Ani rap Report had it for

1560
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: long term extensions for the Green Bay Packers. Still waiting

1561
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: for details, there was some scuttle butt behind the scenes

1562
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: of like, how is this deal gonna work?

1563
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: Like is it short? Is it long?

1564
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 1: We'll see, but either way, barring any huge last second

1565
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: turn that, it sounds like the a contract they're agreed to,

1566
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur will be staying in Green Bay.

1567
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 3: It's interesting because the fashion in which the Bears beat

1568
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 3: the Packers, and it was very reminiscent of the way

1569
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 3: the Packers lost to the Bears late in the regular

1570
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 3: season kind of led Selas to believe that, oh maybe

1571
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: this might be the end of the Laflor era, and

1572
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 3: instead they do the opposite, and they double down on

1573
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,919
Speaker 3: their commitment to Matt Laflor And it is very Packers

1574
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 3: of them. This is not a franchise that quickly canned somebody,

1575
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 3: you know, for underperforming or failing to reach their sky

1576
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 3: high expectations. And ultimately, I do think it's the right

1577
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 3: move for right now because if you weigh the pros

1578
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 3: versus the cons, he's done a lot more good than

1579
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 3: he's done bad. It's just that they've run into some

1580
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 3: disappointing endings over the last few years, some of it

1581
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 3: involving the fact that their quarterback hasn't stayed healthy and

1582
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 3: they were kind of turning over to being one of

1583
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 3: the youngest teams in the NFL over the last couple

1584
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 3: of years. You lose Micah Parsons. That has a big

1585
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 3: impact in your defensive performance. This year, I think it's

1586
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 3: smart to run it back as opposed to getting rid

1587
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 3: of him and making a knee jerk decision.

1588
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: Okay, so I want to be clear with my wording,

1589
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: it's a multi year extension. According to Tom Pellisio with Lafleur,

1590
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: multi year could just be two by the way, like

1591
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: and then that would make it a three year total.

1592
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: We don't know Guda kunt is working on.

1593
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: An extension, but he is expected back, but that that

1594
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: has not been reported as agreed to.

1595
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: Just just wanted to clarify that.

1596
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: I based on everything I've learned, which is all secondhand,

1597
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: and just based on reading all the reporting, I think

1598
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: there was a world where this could have ended differently

1599
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: and cooler heads prevailed and maybe the opportunity like for

1600
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: Lafleur to move on, Like the timing, it just didn't

1601
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: make sense for anyone, for him, for the packers for anything.

1602
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: Was there a world where some team came in with

1603
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: like a godfather offer of like some picks and they

1604
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: thought about it, like I think, I think that might

1605
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: have been possible, but I don't thing.

1606
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:01,759
Speaker 2: I don't think that ever happened.

1607
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: And you know, the packers met with him and had

1608
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: dinner on Thursday night, like I think everyone just watched

1609
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: the situation played out and like the best option for everyone.

1610
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: Once he got away from the emotion of it, all

1611
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: was him returning. And the thing that is crazy to

1612
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: me is how upset Packers fans are about it.

1613
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.

1614
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 4: Come on the entitlement so good.

1615
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he is really frustrating, and he does have

1616
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of late Ravens. John Harbaugh to him

1617
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: that you keep losing games in similar fashion, you lose

1618
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: games with the lead. I wouldn't say, like game management

1619
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: is Jordan Love's biggest strength or Matt Lafleur's biggest strength

1620
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: with is it bad combo?

1621
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 4: Not not with the way they lost that wildcard game especially, but.

1622
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 1: Just in general, I agree, but this team is not

1623
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: far away, like and you have a great offense and

1624
01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: a great thing going. And I listened to a podcast

1625
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: he does great work. It's called Blue fifty two, right,

1626
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: it's called Blue fifty two, the Packers podcast, And he

1627
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: did a poll with his fans and.

1628
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 2: By far the biggest.

1629
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: You know, when he asked, like who do you want

1630
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: as your next coach? Like do you want laflur fired

1631
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: or not? Like they wanted leaflur out, I couldn't, you know.

1632
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. And then if you go on

1633
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: to Twitter or Blue Sky tonight. It's the same thing

1634
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: like the people wanted laflir Out. I think you're wrong,

1635
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: but actually NFL history would say that it usually the

1636
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: coach doesn't get if they're going to get their Super Bowl,

1637
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: they're going to get it in the first five or

1638
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: six years, so to be sure, it would break present.

1639
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 3: But it's also a greener grass situation where first off,

1640
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: who are you going to replace him with? Who's out

1641
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 3: there that that you're really targeting, that you think is

1642
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 3: going to get you over the hump without you know,

1643
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 3: wrecking a lot of the continuity that you've had. And

1644
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 3: also look at the coach that you are you want fired,

1645
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 3: and look at how quickly he would get a job

1646
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 3: somewhere else, Like he could go directly to Tennis and

1647
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: get whatever he wanted from the Titans and they would

1648
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 3: be thrilled to have him.

1649
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 4: You don't let guys let that go. I know he

1650
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 4: has his drawbacks.

1651
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 3: Like you said, late stage Harbaugh in Baltimore is a

1652
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 3: good comparison, but it's not one of those things where

1653
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 3: they just grow on trees. Like if you're pretty close,

1654
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 3: maybe make some small adjustments, let him learn from some

1655
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 3: of those mistakes and hope for the best, and if

1656
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 3: you don't produce that, you know, somewhere in the middle

1657
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 3: of this extension two years from now, you know you're

1658
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 3: running into the same problem. Then you end up with

1659
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 3: a Harball or a Tomlin departure where it's like, all right,

1660
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 3: you know what, maybe it's just best we go our

1661
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 3: separate ways.

1662
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 4: But it's too early, I think right now.

1663
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: And if you were Lafleur, who might have who knows,

1664
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: had interested in like the right job, maybe that job

1665
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 1: just wasn't out there for him either, Like would you

1666
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: want to go to Tennessee? Like no, you got Jordan

1667
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: Love and Micah Parsons and these young talented skill position

1668
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: guys including Tucker Craft who are coming back that you've

1669
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 1: already coached up. It sounds like you're probably gonna lose

1670
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator Jeff Affley. It sounds like the next

1671
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: announcement would be him to Miami. We'll talk about that

1672
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: if and when it actually happened. But you have a

1673
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: pretty good thing going with a quarterback in his prime.

1674
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: And if you're a Packers fan, like keep in mind,

1675
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: like there was an article from Justice Moscada this week.

1676
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: It was really good about how the Packers, you know,

1677
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: are infamous for paying way less for their assistant coaches,

1678
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: and they have way less experience on Lafleur's staff than

1679
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 1: almost any staff on the league, and that's usually by design.

1680
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: So he is making up for some things that is

1681
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: kind of systematic with that organization and making it look

1682
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: good with some good offense. And oh, by the way,

1683
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: they were missing like four of their best seven players

1684
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 1: in that playoff game.

1685
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 3: So I didn't go wat watch the interest that Malik

1686
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 3: Willis attracts this offseason too, that is a direct product

1687
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: of met before.

1688
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: Right, he wasn't getting that done with Mike Rabel, who's

1689
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: a great coach, but yeah, he was not a fran

1690
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: of a phantom Malik Willis back in the day. And

1691
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: then finally, just because I find it funny, let's just

1692
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: dot the I on John Harbaugh being announced as New

1693
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: York Giants head coach. Where were you on Friday night,

1694
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 1: Nick Shook? If you even saw this when you started

1695
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: seeing the reports that Giants reporters weren't really totally sure, Actually,

1696
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: is John Harbaugh actually going to be the coach? Even

1697
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: though we all announced it and had backpage headlines for

1698
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: two straight days and talked about what a great thing

1699
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: it was and what he ordered at the restaurant and

1700
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 1: everything great that John Harbaugh is going to be for

1701
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: the Giants for two straight days and then for like

1702
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 1: a handful of hours, it felt like it was on

1703
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 1: a knife edge. And I don't think it was even

1704
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 1: a made up knife edge. It sounds like it was

1705
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: pretty real knife's edge.

1706
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 3: To answer your question, stereotypically, for me, I was on

1707
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 3: my way to the gym and I was at a

1708
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 3: stop light. Yeah, I shouldn't be on your phone, you

1709
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 3: on to stop light, But I was at a stop

1710
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 3: light and I saw that all pop up, and I

1711
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 3: was like, oh God, all those write ups about that

1712
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 3: restaurant are really going to age poorly if this doesn't

1713
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 3: work out.

1714
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 2: Shout out to Connor Ort. He did good work. You know,

1715
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: it's not his fault.

1716
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 1: And I saw and even our you know, our producer

1717
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: believes maybe the information went out public too quickly. You know,

1718
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: maybe it's on like Schefter was the first one well

1719
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:09,520
Speaker 1: the owners.

1720
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 4: Out there saying Harbaugh told me he'd be back. You

1721
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 4: got a leak there.

1722
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: I put it more on the agent and the team

1723
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: and maybe even it's the agent more than anything. Why

1724
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: did everyone have to know the play by play of

1725
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: every single part of this negotiation the whole time it?

1726
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1727
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: I guess the purpose was for John Harbor to gain

1728
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: as much leverage as possible, not only against other teams,

1729
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: but against the Giants and Joe Shane, because the most

1730
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: telling thing I saw of all the texts and tweets

1731
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 1: and everything else is one from Ian O'Connor, who was

1732
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 1: on it this whole time, who was at the Athletic

1733
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 1: who's covered the Giants for a long time, and he

1734
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: revealed today. I'm wondering if John Harbaugh is okay with

1735
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: him revealing this today. He revealed today that he sent

1736
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh a text at nine o'clock Eastern last night.

1737
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: I think it was like nine nine saying are you

1738
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: still confident you're gonna be coach the next coach of

1739
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: the New York Giants? And John Harbaugh sent back the

1740
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: hands to the side. I don't know, emoj.

1741
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 2: I love that.

1742
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, dog, you gotta come with

1743
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 4: the with the proper offer here.

1744
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1745
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: Well, and you know what happened in the end.

1746
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: It got reported everywhere that John Harbaugh is reporting directly

1747
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: to ownership and not to Joe Shane in the GM,

1748
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: which is a change from different setups in the Giants organization.

1749
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: And to that, I say, didn't you talk about this before,

1750
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: like when you were at the dinner, like what are

1751
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: we what are we doing here?

1752
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,759
Speaker 2: If we're negotiating for a week? Didn't you talk about

1753
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: this way before? They must have.

1754
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't, and maybe they just assumed that they

1755
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: would get their way in the end, John Harbaugh did,

1756
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: and John Harbaugh was right, and the Giants would have

1757
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: been foolish to let Joe Shane get in the way

1758
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: of anything.

1759
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 3: Here's my very brief psychological analysis of this. I think

1760
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh has spent such a long time in Baltimore

1761
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 3: and was not unfairly fired, but was unceremoniously fired over

1762
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 3: the phone on his way out of the facility that

1763
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 3: he may have just been basking in the love and

1764
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 3: the ego boost of being taken to dinner and being

1765
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 3: like adored by a team that so desperately wants him

1766
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 3: to coach that he was like, Oh I'm and I'm

1767
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 3: soaking it all up without hammering out the details. Remember,

1768
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: this is a guy who has had a you know,

1769
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 3: negotiate for a job in almost twenty years.

1770
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: But who's literally Giants. I think they're hiring. They think

1771
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: they're hiring a guy who's going to report to Joe Shane.

1772
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: Like that's on that's on the Giants And maybe.

1773
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 4: Yea, that speaks a lot about the Giants and where.

1774
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 2: They Yeah, maybe that's on new ownership.

1775
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 1: Because look, John Mara is involved, according to John Harbaugh

1776
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: that he's going to the office and everything, but he's

1777
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: he has a cancer battle right now. His son Chris

1778
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: Mara has been really involved in this and and maybe

1779
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: that's part of it. And I think the quotes coming

1780
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: from John Harbaugh today have been really interesting and telling.

1781
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: And he talked about.

1782
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 1: How we're going to really be beefing up the analytics department.

1783
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: That was something that was really important to get in there.

1784
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: So he basically was saying that was part of the

1785
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: negotiation too, that he was getting all that in writing that,

1786
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: like we're going to pay for an entire analytics department

1787
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: where we didn't have anything before because we're kind of

1788
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:31,560
Speaker 1: operating in like nineteen ninety five, and I want to

1789
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: bring it up to the present because oh, By the way,

1790
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: the Ravens have been as analytics forward as basically any

1791
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: team for twenty years, and it's just like not talked

1792
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: about that much, and so that was part of it too,

1793
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: And it's just setting up all the things to be

1794
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: a successful organization, which ultimately, if you're the Giants and

1795
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: certainly a Giants fan, you're happy that John Harbaugh is

1796
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: dragging your team into the present and not reporting to

1797
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: Joe Shane, because let's be real, Joe Shane's not making

1798
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:58,839
Speaker 1: decisions anymore.

1799
01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: It's John Harbor.

1800
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 4: And get familiar with the idea of compensatory picks, Giants fans.

1801
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, football is back, baby. Look we will be

1802
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 1: back on Sunday night. Great staying up with you, Shook.

1803
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: We've been doing this all season long. And look, we

1804
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: got more recaps to go. We got tomorrow, we got

1805
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: the championship games, We've got the Super Bowl. But this

1806
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 1: is our last like live on YouTube. And I really

1807
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: appreciate everything you've given to all of our viewers and

1808
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: listeners this year.

1809
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun.

1810
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 3: I appreciate being here and I want you to know

1811
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,560
Speaker 3: what I came to the realization of today, which is

1812
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 3: after tonight's games, which were now passed.

1813
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 4: There are only five games left in this calendar year.

1814
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you're not counting ball back.

1815
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 4: No, I'm not counting that the games of significance.

1816
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. That is crazy.

1817
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: We are down to six teams. Hit that music, five games,

1818
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 1: six teams in many shows, it's in the names.

1819
01:25:58,600 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: It's NFL Daily.

1820
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: So if you're just watching us on YouTube for the

1821
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 1: first time, appreciate everyone check us out daily.

1822
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Sunday night recapping the.

1823
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: Two big divisional round games Texans Patriots and Bears RAM.

1824
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 2: We'll see that