WEBVTT - 021823 What’s in the News? (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civicsacker. I'm your host, Rams's Ja.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Ramsy's Jah. I am Q ward Man. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys are now tuned in Pacific.

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<v Speaker 1>Second hashtag side Flack. Let's get to it. Stick around.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a lot of show in store for you

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<v Speaker 1>this week. We're going to spend the first part of

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<v Speaker 1>the show talking about news. You know, for those that

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<v Speaker 1>listen regularly, you might hear a constant complaint that we

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<v Speaker 1>have that we often don't have enough show for the

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<v Speaker 1>news that we have to cover. This is something that

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<v Speaker 1>Q has said consistently on the show since we started

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. And so while we're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to cover all of the goings on, there's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>some notable stories in the news this week, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to spend a little bit of time about each

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Our final story is going to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give us a precursor into the second half of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're going to be examining a report the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Michigan Law School detailing race and wrongful convictions in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States as of twenty twenty two. This is

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<v Speaker 1>something we've been wanting to get to and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect opportunity to get into that and peel back

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<v Speaker 1>some layers there, So that'll be the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. On top of that, we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about the Black Codes for our Way Black

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<v Speaker 1>History Fact and some of you may be familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>black codes, but I don't believe that we've covered the

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<v Speaker 1>Black codes in depth on this show just yet, and

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<v Speaker 1>in short, just so you know what's worth sticking around.

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<v Speaker 1>Black codes are basically bogus laws that were I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they were valid, but they're you know, the mean spirited laws,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were enacted to they were actual law. Actual

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<v Speaker 1>that's the word. I don't know if valid is the

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<v Speaker 1>right word, but they were actual laws. Definitely the right

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<v Speaker 1>intended to imprison black people after slavery to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>get free labor out of them. So stick around for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But first and foremost, I think it's time for some

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<v Speaker 1>ebony excellence, shall we we shall? I like this one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another story that we wanted to cover. So

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<v Speaker 1>this one comes from Essence magazine and it's sponsored by

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<v Speaker 1>Hip Hop Weekly Media. So I'll read. The Yale School

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<v Speaker 1>of Public Health recently honored a nine year old black

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<v Speaker 1>girl from New Jersey for her efforts to help curb

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<v Speaker 1>the presence of an invasive species known as the spotted

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<v Speaker 1>lantern fly in her hometown of Caldwell. Bobby Wilson was

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<v Speaker 1>awarded the title of Donor Scientist after donating her personal

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<v Speaker 1>lantern fly collection to Yale's Peabody Museum of Natural History.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the university, the collection is available for public

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<v Speaker 1>viewing in the museum's database. Bobby created a TikTok inspired

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<v Speaker 1>insect repellent out of dishwater soap and apple cider vinegar

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<v Speaker 1>after learning about the bugs that ecologists have urged the

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<v Speaker 1>public to squash on site. The fourth grader, affectionately known

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<v Speaker 1>as Bobby Wonder among her family and friends, was spraying

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<v Speaker 1>the lantern flies that she saw near her home last

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<v Speaker 1>October when she was approached by a police officer and questioned.

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<v Speaker 1>The encounter that Bobby had with the police officer was

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<v Speaker 1>due to the fact that her neighbor and former town

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<v Speaker 1>council member Gordon Lauche I believe that's how I pronounced

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<v Speaker 1>had it called to make a report about seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious person. There's a little black woman walking spraying stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on sidewalks in trees on Elizabeth and Florence. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the she's doing. Scares me, though, Las, she

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<v Speaker 1>said to dispatchers. According to footage obtained by CNN, Ijoma

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<v Speaker 1>Opara believe that's how I say that, who is an

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<v Speaker 1>assistant professor of public health at Yale, invited Bobby and

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<v Speaker 1>her family to the school to meet other black female

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<v Speaker 1>scientists and to the university shortly after the incident. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole science community got together and said, she's one

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<v Speaker 1>of us. We're not going to let her lose steam

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<v Speaker 1>for stem. We're going to support the family, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to support this girl. She said, so again, shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Yale and shout out to little Bobby for

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<v Speaker 1>being an example of ebony excellence. Now that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing in the news, but that certainly is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the brighter things we'll be talking about. First and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to take a moment and before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into the stories that we actually have earmark for today,

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to mention that at the last minute,

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<v Speaker 1>some additional information came out about the shooting, the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>in Michigan, the college, and it just it just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>time out right for us to include all that and

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<v Speaker 1>do it justice. But you know, we did see the

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<v Speaker 1>three victims. We were toward the show before you hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just kind of the way syndication works. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>not keeping secrets here. And uh, that was heartbreaking to

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<v Speaker 1>see the students that lost their lives and uh there

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<v Speaker 1>that we just need we need to get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more before we're able to cover that and do

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<v Speaker 1>it justice. But I don't want you to think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's not something that made its way to us. So

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<v Speaker 1>when the time is right and when we can do

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<v Speaker 1>it justice, if we can do a justice, we certainly

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<v Speaker 1>we'll cover that. That was tough though to see see

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<v Speaker 1>those to me their children, you know, so and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're writing the articles. She was this, he was that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like very sad because the photos, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>seem I don't know, weird moment. So let's pivot to

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<v Speaker 1>uh separate weird moment. This story comes from binnews dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Gendrin, the shooter who killed ten black people at

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<v Speaker 1>the Top supermarket in Buffalo, New York, last year, has

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<v Speaker 1>been sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole,

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<v Speaker 1>per CBS News so you some of you may remember

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<v Speaker 1>us covering this story. This was very heavy for all

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<v Speaker 1>of us, but Civic Cipher had existed long before that

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<v Speaker 1>shooting had taken place, and obviously we're still here now,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this was kind of a thing where all

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<v Speaker 1>eyes were on us at a time when we were

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<v Speaker 1>us saying this, I want to share something me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult. Oh, I don't want to say I got

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure I say this right. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>we process these stories a bit differently than we used to.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm speaking for you, but just because I've known

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<v Speaker 1>you for forever, so follow me here. They're sad, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's sad coupled with a responsibility to not succumb

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<v Speaker 1>to your emotions, responsibility to be coherent, and to process

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<v Speaker 1>every single detail. We cannot look away because we now

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<v Speaker 1>have a responsibility to help other people through these things

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that we didn't before. Once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were doing our regular radio show, we could

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<v Speaker 1>you know, mention things like this and you know, thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>and prayers, that sort of thing, and then get right

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<v Speaker 1>back to the latest CARDI B record or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hit some little baby or whatever we were doing in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio and now these stories, we realize this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of everyone's looking at us to give it context

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<v Speaker 1>and to give it perspective, and where we could normally

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<v Speaker 1>have our moments in private, I guess and put on

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<v Speaker 1>a brave face and then share thirty seconds with our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when something like this happened in Upstate New York,

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, Okay, we're going to have to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this for like fifteen minutes. This isn't a thirty second clip.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have to go through every detail of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have to I remember this one. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>we had to read the things that that guy wrote

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<v Speaker 1>on that gun, and we had to kind of articulate

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<v Speaker 1>for folks who like reporters almost you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to articulate the hatred, perhaps the source of the hatred,

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<v Speaker 1>and even deeper sources than that. You know, we're we're

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<v Speaker 1>now we're looking at online chat rooms and doing research

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<v Speaker 1>and there's communities of people who wake up early to

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<v Speaker 1>just share hatred about us, you know, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a different it's a different thing now doing this show

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<v Speaker 1>than it was ever in my life. And I'm speaking

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<v Speaker 1>for you because I know that we take turns watching

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<v Speaker 1>the videos. Lately, we haven't been taking turns because we

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<v Speaker 1>had to watch the Tyree Nichols video together at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time and go ahead. It seems like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's different, and it's different in multiple ways. It's there

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<v Speaker 2>used to be a shock to seeing things like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm very uncomfortable with the idea that it's become

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<v Speaker 2>something that we're unfortunately getting used to. It never stops

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<v Speaker 2>making me upset, It never stops making me angry, It

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<v Speaker 2>never stops breaking my heart. But before I press play now,

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<v Speaker 2>my heart and my mind kind of braced for what

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<v Speaker 2>they know is coming, rather than being jarred and caught

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<v Speaker 2>off guard. The responsibility to our listeners and to our

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<v Speaker 2>culture for doing this show weighs heavy. I think in

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<v Speaker 2>the wake of Tyran Nicholas, you and I were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how difficult that was for me, more so than

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<v Speaker 2>really all of the other videos that we've seen, because

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<v Speaker 2>the nature of the stop being fraudulent, the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the kid actually didn't do anything, and not that he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything worth dying for, but he didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything at all, Like even the stop itself had no basis.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't run a red light. He didn't get over

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<v Speaker 2>without signaling. He didn't you know, he wasn't reckless driving,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't drunk, he wasn't under the influence he how

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<v Speaker 2>they would usually find all of the things this person

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<v Speaker 2>has done wrong to put in front of you and

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<v Speaker 2>make them less human and less worthy of your empathy,

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<v Speaker 2>and less worthy of your sorrow, and really less worthy

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<v Speaker 2>of your outrage. In this case, that couldn't even do that,

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<v Speaker 2>even in the wake of his family putting out videos

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<v Speaker 2>of him skateboarding and you know, photos of him helping people,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a picture of him handing something to a

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<v Speaker 2>little girl who I'm not even sure he knew. He

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<v Speaker 2>was just being kind. Usually to combat that, someone would

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<v Speaker 2>try to give you the other side of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>In the past, we've seen Cannice owned go out of

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<v Speaker 2>her way to dehumanize someone's humanize, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>so that you won't feel sorry for them. Even people

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<v Speaker 2>like her couldn't find things to make up about this kid.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the thing that I think troubled me

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<v Speaker 2>the most. When I was driving home and a cop

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<v Speaker 2>got behind me, and I got tense and started sweating,

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<v Speaker 2>and my heart started beating, and I started feeling anxious

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<v Speaker 2>and had to take the next day off of work

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<v Speaker 2>because I was so upset and so uncomfortable. So there's, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's way different watching these videos now than it was before,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's that's not singular. It's different in a spider

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<v Speaker 2>web of different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, it's been tough, Yeah, And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what I'm trying to say. You obviously

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<v Speaker 1>are more articulate than I am, so I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know where we end up is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this thing unfold, we know that the best case

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<v Speaker 1>scenario is that because remember, he was taken in a

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<v Speaker 1>live I think we did a whole show dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>that one singular element of this, that that shooter was

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<v Speaker 1>taken in alive. Right, the best case scenario, the best

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<v Speaker 1>possible outcome, is that everybody gets a nice funeral and

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is you know, goes to prison forever. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it feels hollow, but it's it doesn't even feel

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<v Speaker 1>like enough to say it's not nothing, it's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll finish reading this news story because we have

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<v Speaker 1>a duty to inform you, and these stories don't often

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't been able to cover things like this just

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<v Speaker 1>because there's been so many, so much death and strange behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll continue reading. Here's a quote from the judge.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, there can be no mercy for you, no understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>no second chances. Her name is Judge Susan Egan, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said this as she delivered the sentence during a

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<v Speaker 1>court hearing on February fifteenth. She goes on to say,

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<v Speaker 1>the damage you have caused is too great, and the

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<v Speaker 1>people you have hurt are too valuable to this community.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciated her saying that that is akin to say

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<v Speaker 1>black lives matter. You know, the people are too valuable

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<v Speaker 1>to this community. So you know. She goes on to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you will never see the light of day as a

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<v Speaker 1>free man ever again. And so you got to be

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<v Speaker 1>careful with stuff like this because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say that that's good, and of course I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that it's bad. It's just what happened. And

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<v Speaker 1>so this is the outcome that this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the best case scenario, I guess, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>what you're trying not to do is make it feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a celebratory moment. There's something that's this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of vile. But it's not a celebration of this

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<v Speaker 2>man's life being turned into perpetual captivity as much as

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<v Speaker 2>it is the idea of there being a such thing

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<v Speaker 2>as justice. And at the very least, if there's no justice,

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<v Speaker 2>there's accountability here when we've seen so many cases where

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<v Speaker 2>there's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me let me tell you what would feel

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<v Speaker 1>better than this. I know this is wishful thinking, I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is bying the sky. But what would feel

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<v Speaker 1>better than this is if the powers that be are

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<v Speaker 1>elected officials, the billionaires that you know have these little

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<v Speaker 1>pockets of the Internet that they own, in control or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>If those people shut down these cess pools where these

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<v Speaker 1>types of individuals can you know, network and share ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>These real extreme, hateful white supremacists where they're compelled by

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<v Speaker 1>each other to get out there and get the high score,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning get out there and shoot the most number of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And these guys are often as a term's called in

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<v Speaker 1>cells and voluntarily celibate. And I mean we know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like forty percent of men never father children, right.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys are often those types, but they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>access to women really nothing. Nothing about their lives they

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<v Speaker 1>feel is they don't feel like any part of their

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<v Speaker 1>lives makes them happy. So they are, in my belief,

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<v Speaker 1>often suicidal, you know, and in that last minute, when

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<v Speaker 1>that adrenal is pumping, some will surrender, some will take

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<v Speaker 1>their own lives. We saw that in Michigan this past week.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, some of them will you know, surrender

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<v Speaker 1>and go to prison and just be there and be

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<v Speaker 1>celebrated in prison as whatever of neo Nazi or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Aryan whatever. They'll have their status in the prison with

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<v Speaker 1>the Aryan Brotherhood or whatever it's called in prison. So

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<v Speaker 1>not having access to women is not like a deal

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<v Speaker 1>breaker for these guys. So these communities on the internet

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<v Speaker 1>continue to breed these hateful people and point their hatred

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<v Speaker 1>in the direction of black people, brown people. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>that in El Paso at the Walmart and then the

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<v Speaker 1>country as a whole, you know, is really upset with

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico for no reason.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not for no reason, right, Yeah, they had

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<v Speaker 2>reasons created and taught to them. So sure they think

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<v Speaker 2>that they're fully justified in their fears and their fake

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<v Speaker 2>concerns for this monster that's coming to get us. That

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I would have liked to see is a

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<v Speaker 1>crackdown on that type of terrorism. Let's be honest, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, and not just this one individual being sentenced.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is news. In our job is to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cover stories like this so that you know, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>leaving everything on the you know, the cutting room floor

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<v Speaker 1>every single week. So that happened. Moving on, this also

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<v Speaker 1>comes from the Black Information Network. Six North Carolina officers

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<v Speaker 1>have been put on leave after video showed the deadly

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<v Speaker 1>tasing of a black man who complained of heart problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty two year old Darryl Tyree Williams died in a

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<v Speaker 1>Rally hospital on January seventeenth after police taste him multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times during its attempted arrest for alleged drug possession. For

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Post. In the newly released footage, Williams

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<v Speaker 1>can be heard questioning why he is being arrested. Officers

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<v Speaker 1>told Williams that if he didn't put his hands behind

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<v Speaker 1>his back, they would use a taser. Police ultimately taste

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<v Speaker 1>Williams three times despite his pleas for them to stop

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<v Speaker 1>due to his heart problems. And that one is another

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<v Speaker 1>one that is really sad because I think that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting to appreciate the fact that tasers aren't strictly speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>non lethal. You know, people get shot and survive, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean shot.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of things that have no lead

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<v Speaker 2>the intentions that can kill you. You can drink too

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<v Speaker 2>much water and die, you know what I mean. Like

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<v Speaker 2>the point, it's it's that these things are being used

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<v Speaker 2>in excess. Yeah, and scapegoaded and the together are they're

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<v Speaker 2>yelling taser, They're yelling stop resisting. They yell all these

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<v Speaker 2>things out loud to teach you how to feel well.

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<v Speaker 2>See he yelled taser. He you know, he wasn't trying

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<v Speaker 2>to well if he tased them one hundred times, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or for ten twenty minutes or whatever. You know, there

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<v Speaker 2>is a limit to which you can do anything, and

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<v Speaker 2>it can be harmful. So all these billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 2>that are being spent on training, I'm sure someone knows that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and they you know, they crossed that line anyway in

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<v Speaker 2>most cases with impunity. And you know, thus the cycle

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<v Speaker 2>that has us, you know, all these years later, still

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<v Speaker 2>covering the same stories. The names are just different, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the last weekend. We so where we live in Arizon,

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<v Speaker 1>So we had the Super Bowl here in Phoenix, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of moving around. And you may not know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have a couple of nightclubs here in downtown Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were some people. I'm not sure if they

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<v Speaker 1>were from my club or just in the entertainment district there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was walking in an alley behind my business

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<v Speaker 1>and I was headed inside and I heard the sound

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<v Speaker 1>of a taser from like a security guard. There was

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<v Speaker 1>like some commotion. I couldn't see it, but I heard

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<v Speaker 1>the sound of a taser, and then I heard a

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<v Speaker 1>woman screaming, like a blood curdling scream. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was her that was getting tasted. She got

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<v Speaker 1>tased two more times and the scream again. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see who was tasing. I didn't see who was being tased.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that just because there was a wall there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could just hear it over the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the wall. But that let me know that those things

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<v Speaker 1>are intense. I never heard somebody scream like that, like

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<v Speaker 1>screaming in pain. So yeah, I've never come face to

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<v Speaker 1>face with the taser, fortunately, But you know the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that people are dying consistently, People are dying asking what

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<v Speaker 1>they did wrong, and people are dying because of the

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<v Speaker 1>overuse of you know, taser, indeed, any police tactic. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can overuse the you know, the chokehold, you can

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<v Speaker 1>over use the punch, you can overuse the gun, you

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<v Speaker 1>can over use any of this stuff. The point is

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<v Speaker 1>that this police violence leads to death often enough. It's

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<v Speaker 1>black and brown people. And again, now we have to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about the now deceased thirty two year

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<v Speaker 1>old Darryl Tyree Williams. So that happened as well. Forgive

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<v Speaker 1>us for not going into more detail, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>to Below this is going to be a precursor to

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<v Speaker 1>the next part of the show. So we're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of read this you with it. This also

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<v Speaker 1>comes from the Black Information Network. A Missouri man who

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<v Speaker 1>spent the last twenty seven years in prison for murder

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<v Speaker 1>walked free on February fourteenth after a judge declared his

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<v Speaker 1>innocence and vacated his convictions. Per CNN, Lamar Johnson was

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced in nineteen ninety five. Sure, hey, that was when

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<v Speaker 1>California Love came out to life in prison without parole

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<v Speaker 1>in connection to the death of Marcus Boyd. Police said

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson and another man, Philip Campbell, fatally shot Boyd. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis Circuit attorney Kimberly Gardner filed a motion for

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<v Speaker 1>a new hearing, arguing that Johnson's murder conviction was based

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<v Speaker 1>on false eyewitness testimony and misconduct sounds familiar by investigators

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<v Speaker 1>and prosecutors. Johnson was granted the hearing, and on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri Circuit Court Judge David Mason said his initial trial

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<v Speaker 1>included constitutional error, as he vacated the murder conviction quote

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<v Speaker 1>there is clear and convincing evidence of Lamar Johnson's actual innocence.

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<v Speaker 1>Mason ruled Gardner's request to vacate Johnson's convicting Johnson's conviction

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<v Speaker 1>came after James Elkin, the sole eye witness of the

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<v Speaker 1>initial trial, recanted. Another man, James Howard, also testified in

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<v Speaker 1>December that he and Campbell, who has since died, shot

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<v Speaker 1>Boyd over a drug dispute. According to Mason's ruling, Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>had an alibi on the night of Boyd's murder and

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<v Speaker 1>no physical evidence linked him to the killing, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you probably get your news from whatever

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<v Speaker 1>news sources you get it from, and we appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>taking a little bit extra time to get your news

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<v Speaker 1>from us as well. But it suffice it to say

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a pretty big deal in black news circles,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we thought that we would mention it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would give us an excellent opportunity to discuss what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to discuss next.