WEBVTT - Is Anybody Up? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.000 We like to welcome everyone to another episode of the Games, 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:06.160 the Chronicles podcasts and the Day I have special guests 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:09.720 would be my boys from No Ceilings Podcasts, Mr Glasses, 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:14.520 Malone and my token white friend Peter Boss not token, 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.800 my token white friend. You always have to have a couple, 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:20.439 you know, the more successful. As long as I'm the 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.680 only one, I get very territorial, You're for sure the 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.119 only one. Um. You know, we we've been having a 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.160 discussion over the last few days when Glasses, in particular, 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.199 you weren't part of these conversations, Peter about have you 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.199 seen the most Hated Man on the Internet now? And 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.040 why do you sound like Katie Curry on your podcast? 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:43.400 Whose help was Kitty Curry like? Sign? Have you seen it? 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.680 You haven't seen the Peter, right, I saw it. You 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.479 saw it before we go into it, because we're going 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:55.520 to have a conversation in length about internet crime, a 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.680 crime about the laws and fall you know pretty much 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.800 this um, this show was about this guy man. He 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:10.800 was called himself a professional life ruiner. That was his thing, 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:17.280 this Hunter more guy or something that Hunter more no man. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.400 And then the show was called the Most Hated Man 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.360 on the Internet. Is a three part documentary about Hunter More, 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:27.440 a self proclaimed professional life ruiner. More game notoriety for 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.560 operating the revenge porn website. Is anyone up dot com? 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.760 Oh and does anyone up dot com? It allow users 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:40.840 to post Internet kitchens and personal information, you know, not More. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.040 He was known for refusing any takedown request he got. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.280 He had a takedown request for him on there, and 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.760 he was dubbed the most hated man on the Internet, 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.000 you know, in two thousand and thirteen by Rolling Stone 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.720 and if you know, they found out he was known. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.640 He had a guy actually happened to people's computers, phones 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.240 and every damn um. And we're talking about the early 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.880 days when the Internet, you know, first started really taking 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.600 off as far as social media and websites. This is 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.120 around two thousand team, so it was just a whole 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:12.799 different time. It was the wild West at that time, 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:18.520 even when you went to YouTube during that period. In 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.480 two thousand and fifteen, he was convicted of He ended 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:26.440 up being he played guilty too aggravated identity THEATH, which 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.880 I think is hacking. She was aggravated identity theath and 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.480 aiding and abetting in the unauthorized access of a computer. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:39.480 But that's the hacking part. Yeah, I think the hacking 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.400 part is the first part. The second part is providing 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:49.200 a public forum for hackers. Oh m, that's a call 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:53.960 flip on the crime. Well, he most definitely. And I'm 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.600 gonna tell you the reason he got caught is because 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.560 there was an angry white woman involved. There was his 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.240 first She was voracious, she wasn't letting go. She was 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.520 gonna make sure that account for what he did. So 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.520 before I go into it, um, my biggest thing with this, 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:18.280 it's her daughter apparently had took some topless pictures that 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.840 she said were for her own personal use. Now, I 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.520 don't know why you were sitting at room and take 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:28.040 pictures of your titties, and and she had ambitions for 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:34.320 an augmentation. And that's the thing. So you know, once 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.920 she found out that her pictures were available online, she 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.920 didn't know what to do. Mhm. She didn't know what 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.800 to do. She was mad. So she eventually went to 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.760 her mother. She told her mother about to keep in 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:51.120 mind this girl's stepdaddy was an attorney, but they didn't 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.200 get him involved. Two months later, like, he didn't know 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.360 nothing about it. He just knew something was wrong because 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.160 he said that him that, um, his stepdaughter and wife 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.800 kept meeting together and pride of it and everything. Eventually, 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:05.880 you know, it came out. But he just pretty much 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.440 said fuck anybody that wanted to take their picture down. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.360 He just didn't answer back and naxt He would become 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:14.840 worse in some cases. I guess on this site, Um, 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.880 what did he call his followers the family? I forgot 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.680 what he called him, and they called him father, but 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.240 his father has called him father. So he was just 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.560 having people. He just had people out there doing the 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.600 most insane ship in the world and it was really crazy. 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:31.960 One of the coldest part is he had a girl 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:37.720 sniffing cocaine off his penis. Yeah, all right, so we're 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.080 talking about I believe the site went up and around 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.799 two thousand teen, so he pretty much had this site. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.520 There was an open forum where users getting upload pictures 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.479 and everything like that. But the problem was at that 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.240 time the Internet, the laws of the Internet dictator that 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.400 sites weren't responsible for the content on there if it 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.839 came for other users. So it was like kind of 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:00.600 a get out of jail free card. I could have 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.080 opened up a website back and had user submitting people 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.760 getting their heads chopped off, and I would napster for 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:14.240 pictures almost man, almost, But okay, that's how it was 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.200 low key. I think the biggest character in this story, man, 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.679 outside of the actual guy itself, was Charlotte Laws woman 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:28.800 now her daughter release some photos. She took some pictures 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.839 of herself pretty much and making pictures of herself. Now, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.239 my whole thing, my whole thought process during this whole 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.040 thing was this, why are you taking pictures of your 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:43.400 tippies us? If you can take a picture of something, 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.200 you can send them off to somebody. The person take 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.280 a snapshot of these dick they take a picture, they did, 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:52.160 they send off to somebody, right, And I'm tripping on 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.320 this woman's mama because she was just going after this 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.120 dude so intense, right to where even after he took 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.680 the pictures down and he was off on his way 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.560 to Jim, she was still working with him. She posted 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.479 his address on mind Nick Torerea. So Charlotte Laws. That 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:11.640 was her name, right, Charlotte Charlotte Laws and your British 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.760 how her British lawyer husband. His accent was so popit 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:20.920 du the whole documentary. Yeah, what the thing? You know? 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:22.599 I don't know why they didn't get in the vaulved 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.600 earlier though. If you got a husband's an attorney, you 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.800 should probably you probably want to get him involved. And 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.360 you remember, you remember what he said, You remember what 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.240 he said. He was like, they went to him, Well, 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.320 first they was doing it by theirself for a while. 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.600 Then they went to him. He was like, well, just 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.560 ignoring who cares? Like it was like, just live your life. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.080 And they was so mad because that's how we really 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.400 would see it as men were like, but that's who cares. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.320 Nobody even know about that side side is that? But honestly, 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.880 it wasn't that bigger deal. Man. She didn't even have 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.360 pussy picks up there. I'm talking about these just her 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.960 little beast things. And it's not like she has milvtivities. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.479 It's like, you know, so what some you gotta. I 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.280 think she made a bigger deal lot of it than 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.559 she was. She was talking about she long suttle acting 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.159 opportunities and everything, like, you guys need to learn a 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:12.400 thing or two about white ladies. Well it's people. Tell 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:19.960 us a little bit. If you ever, like, want to 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.920 step on a bear trap that you cannot get off 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:26.520 of your fucking leg piss off a white lady with 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.480 too much time on her hands, a little bit of 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:32.480 money and a little bit of self worth. That lady 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:41.120 well dedicate more man hours two getting the justice that 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.920 she feels she is due, for right or for wrong, 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:48.280 than any force of nature you could ever imagine in 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.840 this universe. And that's what happened. And that's what happened 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.120 because with this Charlotte Lowell woman man um And I 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.720 think there's another agenda to this movie, gene, because if 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.120 you want something to disappear, you usually don't keep talking 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.920 about it. Right. So now she's back in the spotlight, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:10.640 right now, they coming up for something. Yeah, well, you 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.400 know that the thing he was right, she had a 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.760 right to be mad. But the way she went after 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.880 this guy, she never held her daughter accountable for what 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.120 she did. It. First of all, it was just like, 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.800 well I took these pictures just in my room, I 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.720 should be able to take potus of myself. And I 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.160 think now where the line kind of gets throng. And 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.480 this is the problem right there, somebody actually hacking to 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.960 her phone supposed to get these pictures, right, And I 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.200 don't know did they ever proved that she was hacking. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.000 I don't remember, so min you Pete, double down on 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.040 your point, Pete, to double down on your point. This 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:50.400 white lady h Charlotte had the Federal Bureau of Investigation 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:55.920 come to her house to investigate improve that her daughter's 0:08:55.960 --> 0:09:01.200 computer was hacked. Mm hmm. That's how dedicated this white 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.600 lady was, that had too much time in her hands. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:08.840 I'm on her hands. So the fans came improved her 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.920 computer was hacked, and that's how they was able to 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:19.000 charge oh way for the crimes. The thing about the 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:24.200 hunter more thing too, he's not a very likable person. Um. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.760 I don't think many people would advocate for him, man, 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.440 because he was just asked so like he refused to 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.400 be you know. And that's the thing right there, man, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.520 It's a bunch of people that just refused to be 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.160 accountable for what they do. For people taking these pictures. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.040 Like it was a guy in the fan that took 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.000 a big pick and one of his friends that actually 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.680 submitted him to the site. So it was just real 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.199 funked up, man. And the way this woman went after 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.679 this guy right once he got the site took down, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.040 because what happened another guy wound up buying the site 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:58.280 right and pointing to anti bullyings like so everybody kept this. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.880 Lady kept just a rassling constantly, just kept it rasing. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.679 You know, she put his address up online. Then that's 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.040 when he's went after her. And the guy that brought 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.000 his sight, the guy to purchased the side from him, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.440 he actually started going after him too, and was talking 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.360 about he was gonna make another sight that was even 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.360 bigger and better, and he was gonna put the picture 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.360 back up there because the lady was working with h 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.760 And what I wanted to talk about a little bit 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.080 like this is the internet back in two thousand, team, 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.160 it's a whole bunch of ships online. Now you got 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.960 motherfucker's playing the kill Motherfucker's. It's a lot of madness 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.079 out there right now, and I think it's gonna be 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:38.520 a lot more people going to gaelog. My favorite, not 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.040 that I mean favorite an interesting choice of words, but 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.760 to me, the most interesting internet crime I have ever 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:53.320 heard was the fake staged Craigslist revenge rape fantasy crime. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:11:02.360 What's that about? Some lady? I forgot the genesis. There 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.680 was a beef between Lady A and Lady B. Lady 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.839 B will be the victim in this scenario. Lady A 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.400 had it out for her, so got some pictures of 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:18.520 her figured out. She leaves her door unlocked and put 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:24.080 an ad on the Craigslist erotics saying, I'm so and 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.760 so here's pictures of me. I like to live out 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:32.360 sexual rape fantasies. So come into my house at nine 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:36.640 pm find me. I'm gonna yell and scream and resist 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.480 or whatever else. It's part of my role playing and 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.400 just give it to me by brute force. Here's my address, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:48.440 So somebody's seen it, went over there and raped the 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.880 girl and she resisted as was described in her rape 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:58.320 fantasy that was written by another person. Wow. Wow, so 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.440 so this is so let me let me get this great. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.760 I want to make sure I got this right. So 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.199 this is a real one. Putting this stuff out there 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.480 was somebody doing some revene ship like just posting somebody's 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.760 phone member in there, and some they did an episode 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:19.120 on SVU about this. M HM, that's new cases is 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:23.440 based off real cases. Yeah, I saw that. Damn that's real. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.800 That's really Yeah. The lady who most of the ad 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.439 ended up getting locked up and the poor fucking guy. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.520 I mean, I don't know how to feel about the 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.520 guy like he he got the full charge, of course, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.920 because guys getting stuck with everything in court. But it's 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:42.040 like talk about intent. It was like it wasn't even considered. 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.720 But I don't know that's it's a it was a 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:50.640 weird deal. What let me ask show this feelers, how 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.200 accountable do you think a woman needs to be? Dude 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.520 to this stuff? Because the thing is this, right, if 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.920 you take some naked pictures of yourself, man, we know 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.719 everything is like m well back then not so much. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.760 I don't even know if the cloud was inventaged yet 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.360 right to be because you can't just pull into somebody's 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.920 clothesed loop C drive from remote, you know what I mean? 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.559 It has to be cloud. Well, no, it was in 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.240 her email? Okay, what was the crime even convicted of? 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.560 Still he was convicted of WROM hacking that was the 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:25.840 major what's the exact charges under more? What was he 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:34.319 convicted of? I just had aggravated identity theft was one 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:38.240 of them. He played guilty the charges of to abading 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.920 and a bidding, hacking and aggravated identity. He served two 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.079 years in prison before being granted supervised release in order 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.199 to play a five mint thousand dollar Flying Morris case. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.960 D and however lead the campaigns which brought about strict 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:56.920 legislation around with the EISH. So just just from Hunter More, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.320 we got all of these new things. And I'm gonna 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.160 tell you that's what anngerous thing about the Internet is 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.840 a lot of people aren't first and was right a wrong, 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.320 Like I see a lot of people he would call 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:11.600 somebody who need podcasts? Right, you can't record someone without 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.280 the amounts. First of all, that depends on the state. 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.440 That's true in California. You don't need bilateral consent in 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:25.960 other states like Oregon. So so, and I think that's 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.560 will change pretty soon, man, because I think right now 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:33.320 what we've got going on we pretty much the open 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.560 Handora's box that with the internet, right, Well, we have 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.560 that section to thirty law that says, like in this case, 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.520 for example, this guy puts up a website, he is 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.680 now liable criminally for anything that goes on the website. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:50.480 But if you push but but you do anything on Twitter, 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.000 anything on Facebook, Twitter and Facebook as corporate and these 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.840 are not liable criminally or civily for anything that happens 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.040 on their network platforms. Well, well, I'm gonna tell you 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.360 this man, this is um. The Internet is the criminals place. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:09.160 All right, you're gonna get your I've had credit cards, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.000 you know, credit card numbers still going through the Internet. 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:18.720 I've had, I've had my I didn't compromise too before. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.120 And I think because we do so much stuff online 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:22.920 right now, you think about it one last time you 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:28.200 bought something Amazon. Never But that's why I always use 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.760 nord VPN. Having a virtual private network to route against 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.200 your IP address can give you an added layer of 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.440 security just in case we're looking. If you're hearing this ship, 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.320 that's exactly before. We do not have no We're not 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.840 getting no ads outside of the thing. So I'm gonna 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.920 but I might not edit that out. I have submitted auditions, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.680 God damn it. Demand to check. Hey, you're not gonna 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.800 run this. Get a check from that said cold crime, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:58.360 Those are cold crimes to be convicted of. He was 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.440 a guyst I'm not gonna lie hunt him. War was 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.080 a gangster life. I remember saying he was on TV. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.160 He was like yeah, ship, well fuck him. I was 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.960 like this, Yeah, he wasn't backing down, and they showed 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.760 this one scene to where he was at this thing 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.600 and the girl in the audiences like, fuck you hunter 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.920 more he was like, shut up, big yell, get you 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.960 pregnant when I'm finished. He just like that. You know, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:27.960 he was winning chronicles. You picked the right motherfucking gagster. Yeah, 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:29.800 I'm gonna see if we But you know what, don't do. 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.480 He's the second person that I've heard of that got 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.960 manned from the Internet. He's not even allowed to go 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:40.960 online every again. How do you function in society without 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:46.320 corn on the internet? Bro? Easy? Any job that you have, 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.280 with most jobs, unless you're working in the warehouse somewhere dog, 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.600 a lot of really corporate jobs required you to be 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:57.360 able to have online access. M So it's go pretty 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.560 much limited him in his work. And I'm pretty sure 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.560 if he had website, he was a person that probably 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.640 had some tech abilities. I don't know what he did 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.479 in the real world before he started as anyone up 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.959 dot com. But he was from San Francisco, right, not Sacraments. 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.879 He was from Sacramento. He's from sack and m. He 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.920 said that revenge for had never been the original purpose 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.920 of the website. He said it became a form of 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.600 users to seri explicit images of people they knew, linking 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.879 the photos of real social media people. That's where he 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.000 funked up, that kind of because like, let's say somebody 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.800 submitted to dictike of you, right, he would put your 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.440 social media, he would put your Facebook up there with it, 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.520 would put everything with your MySpace page with it. So 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.120 you had people and that's how they would find out 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.920 they they pictures was on this site because they frankly 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.680 hear him maybe you up on me is does everybody 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.320 looked at the site? Right? They see it? Back then 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.800 he had something like maybe three hundred fifty thousand unique 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.280 users a week on there. They said that that would 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.960 be three point five million people today. Yeah, he would 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.480 have about three and a half people. They're going, that's like, 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.400 you know, fell into that's like envisiting the sight every week, 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.080 you know the thing. You know. He don't seem like 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.080 he too a morsel about it, man, He just like 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:15.520 g the whole time. Well, I think at the end 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.600 he ended up half asked telling oh he sick on 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.720 the hacker he threw so he sucked it up, but 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.840 but all the way up into that moment that motherfucker 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.080 was a gangster man. He oh, he was on uh, 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:34.360 what's that man show? The white Man with the gray hair, 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.880 the guy who would walk in and like the catch 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.520 Predator or something like that. Oh, no, it was what's 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.480 his name is it? It's not Pierce Morrigan. He's on 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.560 CNN now white guy with gray hair, super great, but 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:49.880 he was on his show was a national television show 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.879 at the time, and they was on him and he 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.639 was like, yeah, well that's on them. Oh Anderson Cooper? 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.840 Was it? Anderson Cooper? I think that's Anderson Anas and Koba. 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.439 But he was just like every interview he did, he 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:08.520 just didn't care. And when they first got his like 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.719 like some anti buddy dude who actually is a bully himself, 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.359 he don't even know it, Like yeah, James mcgintney, Oh yeah, yeah, 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:21.680 he was James mcginttney. Well what it was. He became 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.960 aware of the whole situation that was going on, right, 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.560 and he came in and he was He started buying adds, 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.000 some hunter more just to get him get to see 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:32.800 how his business work. He wanted to know how to 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.480 site operated. He wanted to know how much traffic it got. 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:37.639 He wanted to know what he was dealing with, so 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.040 he started buying ad space from Hunter More and got 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.879 a relationship with him. Right. So eventually when all of 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.400 he started coming down because Hunter Moore thought this guy 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.040 was an ally and you said, Hunter, you want to 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.000 get into a lot of trouble like about this, why 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:51.720 don't you just sell me the site? And I think 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.280 he offered him something like ten thousand dollars at first, 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:56.720 and then the price went up or whatever he paid 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:58.359 him for the site, and he pointed to U R 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:02.320 L to an anti Bulley and side right, the internet 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.560 went crazy. He started sitting the Hunter all kind of 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:06.919 meals like what you know where the funds? To say that? 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:08.720 WHI was, you know, what's this ship right here? And 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.439 then um Hunter tried to lay low for a minute. 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:14.600 You know, he did the best he could. He just 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.880 came now that motherfucker was a real narciss Gee, that's 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.080 what the narciss sealed. I think Hunter More was a 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:22.679 narcissist and social fath. I mean the way that the 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.280 way the television show painted him, I can understand why 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.680 I don't know him was enough to make that diagnosis. 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:35.480 But that motherfucker was bad news. Um. He was the 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:41.720 change man, Gitney cat Um. He was a bully himself. 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.040 He did. Yeah, that's what I was saying. He was 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:47.399 a bully, dog Like. He bullied him the whole fucking time. 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:52.399 That's exact opposite, And that's what I was saying to 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:56.199 y'all on those sailings, like you have the idea that 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.480 you're saying Hunter More right against he was. He was 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.360 a narsess this. But then the other dude, James mcgillion, 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.720 he was an insecure person. That's why he started the 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.400 site because he felt like he was being bullied. They 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.440 ended up meeting at the same exact type of place 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.639 and with the same energy. He bullied Hunter More the 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:17.479 whole time like that, and then even at the end, 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:18.879 like when the way he was talking to him like well, 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.200 I don't care what happened to him, they're racist, passport 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:25.200 blah bla. I was like, damn, like Hunter Moore, what's 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.560 the name of the people that it's a powerful group 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:33.639 of people. Anonymous Anonymous. Anonymous got Inforard and when Anonymous 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:37.840 put off the notice, they canceled Hunted More of such security. 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.000 Remember this is a such thing I wishing motherfucker could 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.439 eraised my subsecuted and you're the old new one. Can 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.199 you imagine your old motherfucker thing is done? One ding 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:49.280 crash and I got a whole new friend start right now. 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:53.240 They made his passport in valid. Pete crist Is, they 0:21:53.280 --> 0:22:00.160 was come inting crimes. They took They took them all 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:02.680 the money in his business bank account. Do them don't 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:09.760 know win this shelter? Who did that? Like l Anonymous 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:13.080 is that online click with the masks where they just 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.480 kind of get involved in ship and you don't want 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.920 to piss them off because they very rational the ship. 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.200 Because they made this dude disappear so for like a month, 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.760 this dude can't do nothing. All his money was done. 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:28.439 He pretty much got He just pretty much got the 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.600 Alderman hack itself, which was kind of irunic considering what 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.120 he was doing to people. They sucked him over right, 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:38.720 and he still seemed like he didn't give a funk. 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.320 He was like, man, these anonymous motherfucker's think they'd be 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:43.440 in something and being ship. He was one of motherfucker's 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:49.840 shows talking ship right. Well. The craziest part about it, man, 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.240 he got a lot of lawsuits and um, you know, 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.960 investigated by the FBI and the guy that was hacking 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.400 the ship for him, his name is Charles Evans. Um. 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:00.399 The thing about the Charles Evans do the way he 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:03.200 met Hunter was actually he had Hunter ship and he 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.480 thought Hunter was gonna be mad at and he said, no, 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:07.320