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Speaker 1: and out podcast. We finally got the trade. We'll dive

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is officially a New York Jet and Jordan

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Speaker 1: some other draft thoughts as well. We are in draft week,

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Speaker 1: because of my friends at game time. Buckle up. Start

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Speaker 1: with Rogers because you know, biggest story of to day,

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Speaker 1: he's officially traded, and the long and listen. I was

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Speaker 1: exhausted with talking about the hypotheticals. Just happened, and then

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Speaker 1: we can give our thoughts and our takes on the trade.

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Speaker 1: But it was like, what's he gonna go for? What

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Like we'd all played that game

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Speaker 1: too many times, We've been playing it for months. Now.

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Speaker 1: Now we have clarity, and let's start with just the

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Speaker 1: most basic part of the compensation. It was never gonna

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Speaker 1: be cheap. I don't care if he retires next year

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Speaker 1: was going to cost some draft capital. That's just a reality.

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Speaker 1: You want to join a nice country club, you want

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Speaker 1: and you can't list I don't know seven quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the most embarrassing end to a season for a good

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Speaker 1: say even more guys loved him. Guys loved him. And

426
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Speaker 1: I think Rogers like, it's kind of battled that as

427
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: he's aged, he got so rich, he got so famous,

428
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, just not everyone handles that as smooth because

429
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: it's hard, Like I don't know how to handle that,

430
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: like it how can you be super famous and just

431
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: Steph Curry elite teammate, Like it doesn't get any better,

432
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 1: Like it took Kobe Bryant till he got really old

433
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: in the league to figure out how to be like

434
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: good with other players. And Rogers like kind of battled that,

435
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: and you know that's the thing you just never know

436
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,719
Speaker 1: till you get obviously far. You know, it was kind

437
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: of hit or missed with that as he got older,

438
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: because their ego gets out of control. And the hard

439
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: part is in a team sport. Listen, every human worth

440
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: their salt believes in themselves. I don't want to say

441
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: some like narcissistic qualities. But like, however, you combine the

442
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: ego and belief in yourself, whether that is some shades

443
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: of narcissism or whatever, you know what I mean. But

444
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: like when you play a team sport, when you're the

445
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: leader of a company like that, you got to be

446
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: very cognizant of that as the lead guy, as the

447
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: highest paid guy. And it's difficult. And I think Rogers

448
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: is going to be put to the test here. And

449
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: it's never easy from Jordan love Shoes to follow the guy.

450
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: And that's why Rogers was so impressive when he was young,

451
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: Like it was to follow those shoes in Brett Farv.

452
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: It's very very difficult. I mean, look at back Jones

453
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: last year started acting like an idiot, like yeah, I

454
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: get it. Joe Judge and Matt Patricia don't know anything

455
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: about offense. They should not be calling offense. But you

456
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: look like a clown jumping up and down on the sideline.

457
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: You're not Tom Brady, you're paid Manning bro. You can't

458
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: act like that, right, So it's very difficult to do

459
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: what these guys are doing. The pressure, the money. The

460
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: reason we talk about NFL television ratings is because everyone

461
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: in the country, relative to other shows, is watching the product.

462
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 1: There are more eyeballs on you in the NFL in

463
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: a random week game, let alone big Sunday night games

464
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: and Monday night games and then the playoffs. So there

465
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: is the ultimate pressure cooker and a quarterback there's nothing

466
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: like it. Right, you're the most famous guy on the team.

467
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: Literally everyone in the huddle looks at you, the coaches

468
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: are all over your ass. It's just gonna be fascinating

469
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: to watch this all play out. I would bet on

470
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Speaker 1: the Jets being pretty solid. I wouldn't bet my life's

471
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Speaker 1: savings on them winning like eleven or twelve games, but

472
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Speaker 1: I think when you factor in their talent, assuming Roger

473
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Speaker 1: still plays at a high level, they'll still be good.

474
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Speaker 1: And if I was betting on the Packers like six wins,

475
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: like that's just I would bet on them not be

476
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: that good, just that simple, because I think Rogers is

477
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: that freaking good and he's that important. And let's face it,

478
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: it's not like there are some defensive it's not like, well,

479
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: you know, they've had like the twenty twelve Seattle's defense

480
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: the last five or six years that they're not really

481
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: built like that they have been an offensive oriented team. Right,

482
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: if I just take Patrick Mahomes away from Andy Reid

483
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: and give him Jordan Love Like, I'd be like, well,

484
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: it's Andy Reid, maybe you can figure out way to

485
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: win nine games. But this is an eight win team

486
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Speaker 1: with Rogers. So god speed, good luck, and the one

487
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Speaker 1: thing I will say. The one thing I will say,

488
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Speaker 1: Packer fans, you've had it well, you've had it really

489
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: good and you know this. I mean, I see you, guys.

490
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Speaker 1: I love the Packer fans. They are such an educated

491
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: fan base. They love football. To me, like Packer fans,

492
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Speaker 1: Steeler fans are just such a knowledge when you talk

493
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: to these guys, just how much because they've just watched

494
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: so much good football. They know what it looks like.

495
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: They even know the slight margins and they all even like,

496
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: I think they're ready for this, but they probably can't

497
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Speaker 1: acknowledge that this could be a this could be really

498
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: really ugly. If you're a betting man, I think that's

499
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Speaker 1: usually the side you have to pick when you make

500
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: these transitions. A couple other things. I was listening to

501
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: New Heights podcast with Jason and Travis, the Kelsey brothers.

502
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: They had on Brock Purdy and just listening and I

503
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: was listening to Ricillo's podcast with Jason kelce He's just

504
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: such an impressive guy. When we drafted him, I think

505
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: it was my second year in Philly. He was kind

506
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: of crazy, not in like a bad way, but I

507
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: just remember like party pretty hard. Obviously won the job

508
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: from the jump, and he was just it was in

509
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: a good way. And I mean this pozzile kind of

510
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: wild man and in a good you want your lineman

511
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: to be wild man. And obviously Travis Kelcey, who told

512
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: Brock Party on the podcast, like I was a major

513
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: red flag guy coming out of college. And obviously Jason

514
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: fell in the draft because he was undersized. Travis fell

515
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: in the draft because he had some red flags in college.

516
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: And yet both those guys their first ballot Hall of Famers,

517
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: and coming up here in the next couple of days,

518
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: like wind up talking a lot about the first round picks,

519
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: and rightfully, so those are the guys that you give

520
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: a lot of money to. Those are the guys that

521
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: you know tend historically to be major hits when you

522
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: pick on them. But any of you guys that are

523
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: fans of different teams, want to know about the third, fourth, fifth, sixth,

524
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: seventh round picks, right, And I've taken the stance of

525
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: like beside the top, like fifty guys in the draft,

526
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't pretend to act like this guy some camp

527
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: miss guy in the fourth or what a pick in

528
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: the six because it's impossible to know. No one has

529
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: any clue. And as someone that has now been worked

530
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: in the league and just gone to training camps for

531
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: a decade, every single year you see this guy like God,

532
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: look at this random fifth round pick, or look at

533
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: this undrafted free agent whoop in the second round picks

534
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: ass and listen to those two guys now and just

535
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: following their careers and obviously going to the Niners practices,

536
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: who some of their best players. Fred Warner is a

537
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: third round pick, George Kittle's a fifth round pick. Like

538
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: they get guys that you know. Obviously Nick Bose is

539
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: a really high pick, but they have some of their

540
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: core guys there were later round picks. And the reason

541
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: is character. And I don't just mean the way you

542
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: treat people. I just mean your character when it comes

543
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: to football. So, like, are you super focused? Does football

544
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: mean everything to you? No matter what are you do

545
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: you refuse to fail? Will you do absolutely everything in

546
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: your power to be a good football player, Because clearly,

547
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: once you make the league, for the most part, you

548
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: have the requisite arm length, foot speed. You know, give

549
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: or take an inch or a couple pounds or whatever.

550
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: But like the margins for separating in this upcoming draft,

551
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: a third round pick and a sixth round pick is

552
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: very very tiny. It's honestly, it's it's extremely small. In

553
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: every single training camp, immediately that six or seventh round

554
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: pick will be better than that third or second round pick.

555
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: It'll happen all over the league. And you look around

556
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: the league, there'll be six seventh fifth rounders starting. They'll

557
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: win starting jobs, they will get veterans cut. And I

558
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: don't care how deep we get into this, how much

559
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: psychological testing we have. It's the coolest part about the draft,

560
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: the stuff you can't quantify. Like all of a sudden,

561
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: you look back, like Travis Kelce was a red flag guy,

562
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: and then he became someone every guy in the Kansas

563
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: City Chiefs building, players, executives, coaches belove. I mean, they

564
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: swear by the guy that they can't get enough of them.

565
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: And this guy was a red flag guy coming out

566
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: of college, right, So it just shows you how difficult

567
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: it is some of these red flag players coming out

568
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: of college. I remember talking to the Chiefs when they

569
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: had the Honey Badger. They're like, favorite player on my team.

570
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: Love the guy. He was kicked out of LSU, didn't

571
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: go till the third round. He's been a team captain

572
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: on three different teams in the NFL. But if everyone

573
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: knew that that maturity and focus and whatever the question

574
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: marks were, he would have been a top twenty pick.

575
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: But you can't know that at the time when you

576
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: take because they're kids. They're twenty one, twenty two years old.

577
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: And I say this all the time, like I speak

578
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: for myself because I do think I represent a lot

579
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: of guys like we most of us are not locked

580
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: and loaded at twenty years old, are ready to start

581
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: a company, are ready to be some starting quarterback. Are

582
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: mature enough to handle it, whether you're any industry including football.

583
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: But as you grow, as you get older, as you

584
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: surround yourself with either higher level people, successful people, we

585
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: mature and like it's impossible to know. It's absolutely you

586
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: can't figure it out. And I think one thing I

587
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: watched John Lynch's press conference day talking about the draft.

588
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: They're non negotiable when it comes to drafting in the

589
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: recent years is football character and physicality. And I think

590
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: if you have high football character and you're physical, because

591
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: I think sometimes like on tape, if you have really

592
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: good numbers or maybe you produced, it's like, well, you know,

593
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: we've heard he doesn't love football, and sometimes you'll turn

594
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: down contact. But Gotti, you know he had twelve touchdowns.

595
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Those are the guys once you get to the league

596
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: because it's way harder, preparation, the demand of everything usually

597
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: don't work. Like when you look at Jason Kelcey and

598
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey, those guys are football junkies. It means everything

599
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: to them. George Kittle, Richard Sherman, just go around the league.

600
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: Of these later round picks been hit to studs like

601
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: football is a major priority in their life. And I

602
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: love it. During this time of the year, whenever the

603
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: media makes a big deal, is like, why does everybody

604
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: want have a balanced life? The NFL is not a

605
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: balanced life. For six months of the year, all your

606
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: chips are in the middle of the table. As a coach,

607
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: as a player, it doesn't mean you don't get to

608
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: see your son or your wife or go to dinner

609
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: with them sometimes during the year, but you spend a

610
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: large amount of time, a large percentage of the pie

611
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: chart doing football stuff. And any time, whether you make

612
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: ten dollars or whether you make ten million dollars, if

613
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna spend and allocate a lot of your time

614
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: and energy towards something. So I most successful people tell you,

615
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: if you can do anything, try to find something you

616
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: enjoy doing it. It sounds cheesy, but it's so fucking true,

617
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: because if you enjoy doing something, you are less likely

618
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: to not do it. Because most times, I don't care

619
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: if you're a football player, or a podcast or a

620
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: car salesman, you name it, You're gonna have to work

621
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: sometimes when it's like, you know, I'd rather be at

622
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: the beach, I'd rather be at dinner with my wife.

623
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: I'd rather just be at home doing nothing. And sometimes

624
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: you gotta work. Sometimes you gotta do stuff, and when

625
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: you like doing it, it makes it much more possible.

626
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna see so many guys drafted

627
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: that are gonna be not good football players, and so

628
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: many guys drafted later who are better than them at football.

629
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it comes down to the person.

630
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: And that's my favorite part about the draft is the

631
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: value aspect. Where do the player I want? What round

632
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: do I have to take them to get them on

633
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: my team, regardless of do I think the guy's gonna

634
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer, Pro Bowl or whatever. I

635
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: like this guy a lot now I want to draft them,

636
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: but I don't need to take him in the second

637
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: round because I can get him in the fourth and

638
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Speaker 1: the good gms know exactly how to maneuver. That second

639
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Speaker 1: favorite part is like the wiring of the individuals that

640
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: you draft, because most guys are talented, right, drafting guys

641
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: from Alabama, Georgia, Ohio, State, USC, Texas all over the

642
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: not Texas A and I've many draft picks lately, but

643
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: they will this year. But you know what I mean,

644
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: what separates them is the stuff that you just It

645
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: ain't the jumping, it ain't the arm length. That stuff does.

646
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: But that's why they're good or not at their position, right,

647
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: But what's gonna sustain and what's gonna have them past

648
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: guys and what's gonna have the guys not make it

649
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: is all the intangible stuff and you can do all

650
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: the research you want. You can talk to everyone in

651
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: the program. But man, like it's a lot of you

652
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: guys listening right now. Like you know, there weren't many

653
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: people that believed in me, right you think that you're

654
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: like you're successful human being. Can people can tell you good, bad,

655
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: or indifferent, But like what separates people is once they

656
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: get there the player, what's inside deep down sounds cliche

657
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: or stupid, but it's just a fact. Let's fire through

658
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Ran Carthin, the new general manager

659
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans. So they have not received any calls.

660
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: My Uber driver the other day that said Derrick Henry

661
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: was going to the Eagles. I think you read a

662
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: poor article. I read it too. It was it was

663
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: surfacing there on the interweb, ran Carthin. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why he would lie. He just we haven't received any calls.

665
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: And I talked to a buddy that was like, why

666
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: would the Eagles trade? Do you know how much money

667
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: Dereck Henry makes? Like, no one's trading for a guy

668
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: that makes that much money, especially you know he's get

669
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: a little up there in age. Why is DeAndre Hopkins

670
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: not traded, not because he can't play, because he makes

671
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: nineteen plus million dollars a year. If DeAndre Hopkins made

672
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: seven ten, teams want to try to trade for you

673
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: make nineteen million dollars, it's a trade for you. The

674
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: betting markets have Will Levis going number two overall. Vegas

675
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: you know, usually makes more money than they lose. But

676
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: I know this, and I'm I guess I'm probably closer

677
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: to a Will Levis fan than someone I know Coward,

678
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, and I understand the jacked aspect. It's more

679
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: about pliability that it is muscle as at quarterback one agree,

680
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: like that's that's a fact pliability. Look at look at

681
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: some of the best quarterbacks, I mean Peyton and look

682
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: at Peyton and Tom Brady with their shirt off, right,

683
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, I mean, these guys are not They don't

684
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: look like a linebackers, right, Aaron Rodgers. Guys. You do

685
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: not need to be superjacked. And some of the superjack

686
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that come to mind, especially for older people, is

687
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: like Kyle Boller, Brady Quinn. It's harder to play football

688
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: when you're tight and you're not fluid. Right. Golf's the

689
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: same thing. Pitching's the same thing, not about big muscles,

690
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: about fluidity, throwing the ball. Touch. Now. I watched Will

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00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: Levis a couple of years ago. I liked good buddy

692
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL swears that if Liam Cohen, who is

693
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: now the OC again, had never left Kentucky, this guy

694
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: would be competing to go number one overall. That Rich Scanderello,

695
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: who everyone in the NFL kind of makes fun of,

696
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: stinks and kind of ruin this guy. Now, you could

697
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: also just say he doesn't see pressure, he gets sacked

698
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: too often, he doesn't take you know, he throws the

699
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: ball too hard, no touch. I personally, if I was

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Speaker 1: going to take Levis, who is also kind of a

701
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: swing for the fences, or Anthony Richardson, I think I

702
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: would swing on Anthony Richardson because everything I've heard about

703
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: the character Will Levis really good character. Anthony Richardson, same thing.

704
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: So the character of the work, ethic, all that stuff

705
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: is similar. I'm swinging for the fences either way, right,

706
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hit a home run here. Neither of

707
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: these guys are viewed as doubles or it's like, you

708
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: know what worst case scenario you just get a single,

709
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: you get to round a second and you just kind

710
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: of roll back and you just get a quarterback who

711
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: can function. That's not the case with these guys. So

712
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: I would personally take a swing for the fence. I

713
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: would take it for swing for the fence, right, like

714
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, even CJ. It's like those guys ton of tape.

715
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: They've been really good, these two guys. Most people think

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Speaker 1: Will Levis this year was terrible. In Anthony Richardson beside

717
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: the Utah game, some people think he's like undraftable, but

718
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: the other betting market has him as a lock to

719
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Speaker 1: go in the top five. Like, if one of the

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Speaker 1: guys going in the top five, I would swing with

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. I did a little informal poll texting around.

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Speaker 1: Most people that reacted to me, Now a lot of

723
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Speaker 1: them are teams that do not need quarterbacks. Agreed, agreed,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not some Will Levis stinks guy. But if

725
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: I was gonna lean one of the two of them,

726
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: because both of them feel like a big stretch right

727
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: in the history of the draft. I remember, I think

728
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: I mentioned this on the podcast. One day. I was

729
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: listening to DJ's pod Move the Sticks, and I texted him, right,

730
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: he came into the league in the early two thousands,

731
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: and I said, what would those type players, what round

732
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: would they have gone in in two thousand and one?

733
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: He's like the fourth or fifth. So quarterback inflation is real,

734
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: but so those inflation everywhere, Like, right, things cost more

735
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: money one a pair of shoes. You want to buy

736
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: a bicycle? You fucking see how much gas in Arizona.

737
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: It's like five twenty. Things are expensive, right or wrong,

738
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Speaker 1: just the way it is. So you want Will Levis,

739
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: you want Anthony Richardson, You gotta take a high pick.

740
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: I would lean Anthony Richardson. So on the internet streets,

741
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: people giving the Cardinals Kyler Murray Oklahoma spring game was

742
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: this weekend and they gave him a statue, saw a

743
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: lot of people making fun that the statue was way

744
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: too big. Obviously Kyler's small, but a bunch of you know,

745
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: the new coach, the new GM, the contingent of just

746
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: new era zone of people went to go see it,

747
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: and I guess I just heard people say this. They're like, oh,

748
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: everyone was giving them a hard time. And I always

749
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: have a hard time with that one, Like who's everyone?

750
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: Seven people on Twitter some booger readers, people with a

751
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: combined six hundred followers. You know, does that count? Who cares?

752
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: I just think that's so stupid whatever we do that.

753
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: It's one of my least favorite things when I see

754
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: someone in the media go everyone was giving them who's everyone?

755
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Find me everyone? Three guys with numbers on their Twitter

756
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: avatar said this is stupid. They should be watching tape.

757
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: That does not count. No one actually cares if anything like, yeah,

758
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: good supportive move. Do they ideally want Kyler Murray? You

759
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: probably not, but they're stuck with him because the last GM,

760
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: last coach, and the owner gave them just a contract

761
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: that is probably gonna be one of the great disasters

762
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: in the history of league. One thing that I'll end

763
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: on this, I wonder if Lamar could get traded on

764
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: Draft night. Just seems like, I don't know, you just

765
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't discount it. I'm not expecting it, but crazier

766
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: things have happened. I never expected a j Brown to

767
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: get traded, and I know it's different with a quarterback,

768
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: but are we sure that in the middle of the

769
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: draft or early in the draft, Lamar Jackson has been traded?

770
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: They just resigned Tyler Huntley, who it's one of the

771
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: great I did not see coming I've ever seen. I

772
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: watch a lot of Pac twelve football. Did not think

773
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley was an NFL quarterback, let alone a guy

774
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 1: that you could win NFL games with. Ravens have pulled

775
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: that off, and I wonder maybe they make a trade,

776
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: they draft a quarterback, kind of reset their salary cap.

777
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting it. Got my Spidey senses up, though,

778
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: got my Spidy senses up? Is it just on the table? Okay,

779
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: let's fire into the mailbag, Ryan, he's up in the mailbag?

780
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: Is just my instagram my name? And firing those dms?

781
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: Gave a question answered here on the show. Hey John,

782
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: longtime listener, first time collar. Will Sean Payton's reputation as

783
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback whisper be sullied if his time with the

784
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is a dud As a longtime Saints fan, Obviously,

785
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: I've seen his chemistry with Breeze, but he's also maximized

786
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: the play of Bridgewater Jamis Taysom and discovered Tony Romo

787
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: during his tenure with the Cowboys. Is all that nullified

788
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: if Wilson sucks. Would love to hear your thoughts. That'd

789
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: be a big note for me. One thing Sean Payton

790
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: has going for him into this situation is Russell Wilson

791
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: was atrocious last year. To me, if he had been

792
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: the coach that traded for Russell Wilson and that's what

793
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,479
Speaker 1: it looked like, yes, his reputation would one hundred percent

794
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: take a hit. But he's inheriting a guy that we

795
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: all agreed like what the hell is at every single queue,

796
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: whether you're Bill Pollian, Howie Roseman, Kyle Shanahan, Pete Carroll,

797
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: or you're me or you did just watch Russell Wilson

798
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: play when this guy kind of stinks like what what

799
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 1: is going on? So that's who he's inheriting, a guy

800
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll said we didn't want anymore and then

801
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: goes to the Broncos and I get the franchise wasn't

802
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: a weird spot because they had a coach over his head.

803
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 1: But when he just played quarterback, regardless of bad play

804
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: calls and port clock management by Hackett, he just dropped

805
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: back and would throw an out route, or would throw

806
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: a crossing route, or throw whatever it looked awful. His

807
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: eye test was really really bad. So to me, that

808
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: helps the landing spot for Peyton because ultimately, if he

809
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: stinks like wasn't my problem. I didn't pick him right

810
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: this I never said this guy could play. Well. I

811
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: know he did say the guy could play, but you

812
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, when you guy right, it's

813
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: on you. Ultimately, Hackett and George Payton they traded for

814
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, like to me, Deshaun Watson, that's on the owner.

815
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: But the Russell Wilson situation was Hackett and Peyton, and

816
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me. Obviously Hackett lost his job if

817
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: George does as well. Good morning. I was wondering how

818
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: you think the Bear stack up for this year. Obviously

819
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: you'll be reading responding to this after the draft, so

820
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: what else could they add to do to make the

821
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: playoffs this season. I'm not a huge feels guy, so

822
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: wondering if he's the answer. Well, I'm actually talking doing

823
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: this before the draft. I think here's the question. B

824
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: John Robinson is a player that obviously a running back

825
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: and most people are like, you can't take a running

826
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: back super high, but everyone agrees in the league he's

827
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: a top two or three player in this draft. Pure talent.

828
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: It's like him and Jalen Carter. So let's say he

829
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: there at nine, and if you're the Bears, what if

830
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: you take B. John Robinson and then all of a sudden,

831
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: you got B. John Robinson, you got DJ Moore, you

832
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: got Mooney, you got Comet, you got Claypool, and you

833
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: go Fields. Let's see what you can do. Let's say

834
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Speaker 1: Fields is it good, doesn't have a good year, then

835
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: you're in a position to get a quarterback next year,

836
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: a young one, Drake May, Caleb Williams, whatever, you haven't

837
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: surrounded with really good pieces. So to me, if I'm

838
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: the Bears, I would think long and hard about taking B.

839
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: John Robinson with a ninth overall pick. I know it's

840
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: easy to go line and you can never go wrong

841
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: taking a you know, a tackle, a pass rusher. You

842
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: know you win the trenches. But I don't know in

843
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: this draft, is there if there's gonna be a guy

844
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: like head and shoulders above B. John Robinson when they

845
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: take and it just kind of sets you up, like,

846
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: who cares if be John Robinson isn't a great player

847
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: in eight years? Just focus on the next four. What

848
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: if he's the best running back in the league in

849
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: two years. Hey, this is Austin and I'm a senior

850
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: in high school. I'm about to graduate soon and want

851
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: to go into sports scouting recruiting. I was curious on

852
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: how I would go about this dream of mine. I

853
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: would really appreciate it if you get back to me.

854
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: If not, God bless. I got you, bro. Wherever you

855
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: go to college, wherever you go to school, I've been

856
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: assuming football, but maybe it's basketball or baseball. Try to

857
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: work for their team. And you know you already have

858
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: this in your mind of what you want to do.

859
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: You're so young, you get the world ahead of you.

860
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: And wherever you go to college, whether it's a big

861
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: school or small school, get involved immediately. Don't waste any time.

862
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: Separate from the pack. Because how I didn't even start

863
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: doing it till like my junior year. I started working

864
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: for the athletic program at cal Poly. Like yeah, probably

865
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: my junior year. But I didn't work really with the

866
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: football time till my fourth year. But I wasn't you know,

867
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: I stayed five years, not exactly a you know valed

868
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: Victorian here, uh, but time, like you have a short

869
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: period of time to really take advantage of it. And

870
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: when you get to college, like depending on where you

871
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: go to school, I think you can. I think you know,

872
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: get involved immediately. It would be my best advice, really,

873
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: my only advice. I mean, I think that's just that's

874
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I did and it worked out.

875
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Big fan of the pod. They've been a godsend for

876
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: my work days. Thank you for the quality content. You've

877
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: mentioned Matt Barkley a couple of times whenever you reference

878
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: to working as a scout. I'm a diehard Trojan fan

879
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: and have always wondered why he fell so far down

880
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: in the draft when he was projected as a top

881
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: ten pick after his junior year. Was he just massively

882
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: overrated that junior season. He was on pace to throw

883
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: more touchdownst senior year, but then he got hurt in

884
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: the UCLA game. I was hoping you'd be able to

885
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: shed some light on the topic because it's been bothering

886
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: me for a decade. Could you see a tumble of magnitude?

887
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: I would just say this. I think sometimes when you're

888
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: at a big program and you put up good stats,

889
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: you there's a hype train behind it, right if I

890
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: go to Texas, if I go to USC if I

891
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: go to Oklahoma, if I go to one of the

892
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: SEC schools, if I go to Michigan Ohio State and

893
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: I throw a lot of touchdowns, I'm going to be

894
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: a you know, a highly talked about guy. And we

895
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: usually once we start talking about you your sophomore junior year,

896
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: we start talking about you as an NFL player. And

897
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you really look at a guy

898
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: break him down as a talent, you go, well, he

899
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: actually isn't that tall. He's actually not very athletic at all.

900
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, in his arms pretty weak. And I think

901
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: when you really broke him down as a player, he

902
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: didn't really have that many things going for him to

903
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: be some top pick. So even as a junior, would

904
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: he have gone as a top ten pick. I doubt it.

905
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: I honestly really doubt because we don't really start nitpicking

906
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: you until you declare right or until your senior year

907
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: when we know you can't go back. So I think

908
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: he really got a nitpicked bad athlete. I mean relative

909
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: to NFL players, not me or you. I mean really

910
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: really bad athlete, like really really slow, and he didn't have

911
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: a good arm, So you go like this guy and

912
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: he ended up going in the fourth round. In more

913
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: power to him. He's had a long, long career. Now,

914
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: anyone that's listening to this knows what I like in quarterbacks,

915
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: whether it was definitely in my time in the NFL

916
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: and one percent ever since. Like, I like a bigger

917
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: arm guy. Now, that doesn't mean if you have an

918
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: average arm, doesn't mean you can't be good, right, Like

919
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Dak Prescott than you know, fucking Christian Hackenberg. Right,

920
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Brock Purdy than Zach Wilson. But like Eileen, like,

921
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like the guys with the Biggs's Why will

922
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: evis intrigues me? Obviously, Anthony Richardson right, Like, I like

923
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: guys with power arms. Now to play quarterback is more

924
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: about just strong arms. But those are the type guys

925
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: that I like, that I have an affinity for. And

926
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: it just gets back to the way I was taught

927
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: in football, right, Like when I got to Frestent State,

928
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: we recruited Derek Carr. He had a big arm, and

929
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: then when I got to the NFL, Michael Vick started

930
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: big arm. I just like bigger armed guys. And that's

931
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: why I never liked Matt Barkley. Chip Kelly didn't care.

932
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly liked Matt Barkley because he thought he was accurate.

933
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: Question for the mailbag, what do you think about the

934
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: expansion rumors to Mexico City or London? Do you see

935
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: the NFL taking the leap internationally with the logistics make

936
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: sense to you? London never really did because one thing

937
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: that any person that gets first hired in the NFL

938
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: as a scout, you do a lot of airport runs.

939
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: You do a lot of taking guys around. And one

940
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: thing with an airport run means you're signing guys, you're

941
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: cutting guys, You're there's a lot of turnover, especially during

942
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: training camp, well a lot of it even in Philly,

943
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: is like, we need to fly this guy in. He

944
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: lives in Texas, he lives in LA, he lives in Seattle,

945
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: he lives in Scottsdale. And that was a long flight,

946
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: but he still got there relatively quick. What if you

947
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: live in LA and I want to sign you and

948
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: it's Tuesday, and it's just you know, it's the season,

949
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: and I have a team in London. I think logistically

950
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: London would be more difficult than Mexico City, though Mexico

951
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: City is still you know, depending on where you're coming from,

952
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: but it and I could be wrong. I've never been

953
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: to either. I've never been to Mexico City in Tijuana once,

954
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, kind of fun. Port of Rota also not terrible.

955
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: Been to Europe, but never been to London. London, Europe. Yeah,

956
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna make me sound really stupid again. Not a

957
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: Harvard grad here UK, you know, EU EU. I think

958
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: London would be very very hard. I do. I also

959
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: don't think the NFL is in the expansion business. Like

960
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: they got enough teams. Everyone's making enough money. We're right

961
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: at the kind of the line where we got good players.

962
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: We got enough good players. The top teams are good,

963
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: but we got enough players that are kind of fringy

964
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: that the bad players are bad, right, or the bad

965
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: teams are bad because we run out of quarterbacks. So

966
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: I would not be interested in expansion if I was

967
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. Now, you know, someone would push back. You're

968
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: either growing and you're dying, and there's truth to that.

969
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just don't think we have

970
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: enough quarterbacks. Welcome to Arizona. Question for the bag is

971
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: there any chance in the world the Chargers would ever

972
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: go back to San Diego. Also, would the league ever

973
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: force Spanos out? It's a little uneasy with Herbert's contract

974
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: coming up. They are cheap owners. I would say that

975
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: they're not going to force Spanos out. Clearly, they got

976
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: their site set on Michael Bidwell here in Arizona, and

977
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: I think if they could figure that out, they will

978
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: move next to Mark Davis in Vegas. But I think

979
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: Spanos can fly a little under the radar because he's

980
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: in LA and it's just it just kind of is

981
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: what it is. I do not think they're going back

982
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: to San Diego now, pretty sure. They just built a

983
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: big practice facility. They got a sweetheart deal. They pay

984
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: one dollar in rent the Chargers. I mean, San Diego

985
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: doesn't have a stadium for them to play in. It's over, man,

986
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: it's over. Hi, John, enjoy the pod. You do a

987
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: good job. I heard you discussing YouTube TV. I too,

988
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: have used it. We had the fastest internet package and

989
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 1: lived in an apartment complex. Every single big football game, AFC,

990
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game, College Football Playoff, Super Bowl was available

991
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: in four K or at least ten ADP, Yet every

992
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: time we tried to watch these and higher quality resolutions,

993
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: the game lagged or simply would decrease on its own, uh,

994
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: completely unwatchable at the higher resolution. Watching Georgia destroy TSU

995
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: in seven to twenty P or even for ADP was

996
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: about as fun as it sounds. Did you experience any

997
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: of this with the bigger most watch games other than

998
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: nonsports content, It did just fine. I never have any issue.

999
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: Now I'm with you. I get the highest level Internet possible,

1000
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: and I'm also my office is, like I've said, it's

1001
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: just an apartment, studio apartment that's just an office only,

1002
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: and there are other units in this building. So I mean,

1003
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: I guess you would share internet in the sense of,

1004
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: like the internet's all coming here. I had no issue.

1005
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: I have some issues sometimes because I got smart TVs

1006
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: if my Internet is being weird, But like if I'm

1007
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: watching the Masters football basketball, anything right in the four

1008
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: K or whatever the highest I pay for, I guess

1009
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: it's four K. I don't even notice. It's clear I

1010
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: have no lagging issues. Now. I do think YouTube TV

1011
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: is behind some of your guys' packages, whatever your cable

1012
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: packages are, But in terms of buffering. It's the one

1013
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: reason that I've kind of been adamant in my defense

1014
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: of why this is gonna work when it comes to

1015
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime and when it comes to YouTube TV. I

1016
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: have no issues. Now I understand maybe some of you do.

1017
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny is I went to probably

1018
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: within the last month. I was me and my girlfriend,

1019
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: she's in real estate. She we just I said, let's

1020
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: pick four or five houses that I'd be interested in buying.

1021
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: Let's go look around. One thing I sneaky do when

1022
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: I look at the house is like, I look at

1023
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: my phone service, and I remember when I was at

1024
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 1: this house. It's actually pretty intriguing house, pretty sweet. Actually

1025
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: it's sold, but it had one bar. I'm like, you know,

1026
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: this would be a problem, so you know, and this

1027
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: was kind of in the mountains in North Scottsdale, and

1028
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder would that be a problem

1029
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: with streaming? And I just had one bar for my

1030
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: phone service and listen, I could be talking out on

1031
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: the left side of my you know what that this

1032
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: doesn't even they're completely separate. But depending on where you live,

1033
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: obviously it might change things. And streaming is different than

1034
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: some of the cable companies, but I've never had any issues.

1035
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: It's why that I feel pretty confident in my situation now.

1036
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: I've only done the YouTube TV at this office. By transition,

1037
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: I'm probably I'm probably gonna get an office no matter what,

1038
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep an office. Whenever I buy a house,

1039
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put an office there. But I also one

1040
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: thing that has been really really enlightening for me now

1041
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: I have a unique kind of business. I like leaving

1042
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: the house and going to an office. Now. I don't

1043
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: plan on going far, but I could see myself renting

1044
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: something within a square mile or two from wherever I

1045
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: get a house because I like having an office, you know.

1046
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: I like separating. I've been way more productive, and I

1047
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: was pretty productive when I had the office in the condo.

1048
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: But I there's something about leaving. So maybe I'll get

1049
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: screwed when I try to get YouTube TV at my

1050
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: house and I'll just have to install it at the

1051
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: office and just be uh spending more time there watching stuff.

1052
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: What have you heard about Will Anderson? Everyone in the

1053
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: media is mocking him in the top five, but Chris

1054
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: sim says he doesn't really see it and here's NFL.

1055
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: People that don't see it either, Well, I just TV

1056
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Speaker 1: scout guys now, and whenever I watch Will Anderson, I

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Speaker 1: really really liked him, and they start asking around, and

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Speaker 1: I think, whenever you put a guy in a pedestal

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Speaker 1: like Jalen Carter, you go Jalen Carter sweet, and you

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Speaker 1: go Jalen Carter relative to all these dtackles that have

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Speaker 1: gone for the last decade, would be sweet against those guys,

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Speaker 1: but you go Will Anderson, sweet edge rusher, well relative

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Speaker 1: to who this draft class or Nick Bosa, Miles Garrett

1064
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Speaker 1: started going through some of the top edg rushers, and

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Speaker 1: every single person will go he is not that but

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Speaker 1: super high character guy, super hard worker, plays really hard.

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Speaker 1: But I think one thing that concerns people he's not

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Speaker 1: a bendy guy. And I do think if you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna have unlimited power like a young Khalil Mack and

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Speaker 1: you can't really bend, it limits your ceiling. So I

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Speaker 1: think some people and I'm not And again like I

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Speaker 1: haven't broken him down on film, but the knock I've

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Speaker 1: heard is like, you know, he's not special. He's not special,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be solid. He's gonna be a good player.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard for him to fail just because

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Speaker 1: he's like Nick Saban's hardest worker ever. He's a serious cat,

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Speaker 1: but physically has some limitations. He is you're just you're

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Speaker 1: not getting you know, more than likely some Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: immediate pass rusher. Doesn't mean he can't eventually make a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I've just heard his ceiling is not as

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Speaker 1: high as the way is. And I'm guilty of this too.

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Speaker 1: Media people might talk about him, because who do I

1083
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: hear talk about this? I heard Michael Lombardi say that

1084
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: he really liked the Notre Dame tit end during the fall.

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Speaker 1: You just watch him on television, right, you just you

1086
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: watch Notre Dame games, You're like, God, this guy's a beast,

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Speaker 1: he say Gronkowski, And sometimes you think that, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: then I watched him on the All twenty two tape,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, he's just he's not as twitchy.

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Speaker 1: He's just not as he's not He's not even close

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Speaker 1: to Gronkowski. And I think sometimes when you watch a

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Speaker 1: guy on television and as a scout, and then you

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00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: watch a guy on the tape and you really break

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00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: him down you find flaws, you find flaws. So that's

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00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: and let's face it, when you are a high just

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00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a top ten pick, you're getting it

1097
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: picked because it's like we're investing a lot of money

1098
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: in you, so we better know all the strengths and weaknesses.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes you just figure out that the guy has

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Speaker 1: more weaknesses than you originally thought. So the number one

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Speaker 1: thing I've heard is the bend stiff in the ankles

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Speaker 1: is another word I've used or heard about him. With

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Speaker 1: all the tree Lance speculation about him being traded, I

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Speaker 1: wonder if you'd give a bit more insight into why

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00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers should give up on him so

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00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: early for nothing. I know the odds are against him

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00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: at this point and he hasn't been great, but given

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00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: he hasn't really had a proper chance at playing due

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00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: to injury, wouldn't it make more sense just to write

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Speaker 1: it out. John Lynch kind of alluded to that if

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Speaker 1: brock Purty was healthy, I think one tree Lance would

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Speaker 1: be gone. I still think for the right price, even

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Speaker 1: with the unknown on Brock party, they would trade him

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Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday. Now they're not going to trade him

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Speaker 1: for a fifth round pick. They're not going to trade

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Speaker 1: him even for a fourth round pick. But like with

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Speaker 1: the huge Houston Texans, give their sixty five overall the

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Speaker 1: top third round pick. I think the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: would think about it. Now. Are the Houston Texas going

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Speaker 1: to do that? Doubtful? So it doesn't make much sense

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Speaker 1: to give him away for nothing, given that he's a

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Speaker 1: good guy, that he's trying. The only reason you trade

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Speaker 1: him and quote unquote give him away is because you go, well,

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Speaker 1: we don't think he's gonna be out Sam Darnold. And

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Speaker 1: then if he doesn't and he's a third string quarterback

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Speaker 1: when Perty comes back, his value is like a seventh

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Speaker 1: round pick in a bag of balls. It's nothing. So

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Speaker 1: try to get value now. But you go listen, there

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Speaker 1: is a major unknown on Perty's elbow. There's no guarantee

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Speaker 1: that he comes back. Let's just ride it out see

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Speaker 1: if hell maybe he's maybe he shocks us all because

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Speaker 1: this is not immediate creation. The forty nine ers do

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Speaker 1: not think he's that good. The players didn't think he

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Speaker 1: was that good in training camp. This is nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with the guy, good guy. People like him, but

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Speaker 1: as a player, the team wanted Jimmy g back. It's

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Speaker 1: not an opinion, obviously, it's factual because they resigned him.

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Speaker 1: But the reason they did is because the star players

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Speaker 1: are like, yeah, this ain't gonna work, guys, this is

1140
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Speaker 1: not gonna fly. We're trying to be good and yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I I don't expect him to get traded, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's off the table this week. I

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Speaker 1: do not now there. Like you said, there's a level

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Speaker 1: of risk. Pretty we won't know till twelve weeks in

1145
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: how his elbow holds. Crazy story, Ben pretty nuts that

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Speaker 1: John Lynch had a press conference before the draft on

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Speaker 1: Monday and two years after drafting him, right, I guess

1148
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Speaker 1: they drafted him in twenty twenty. It is twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: so two drafts. Two draft since twenty one and twenty

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Speaker 1: two just openly talk. I guess I guess you a

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01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: drafted in the twenty one draft, twenty one twenty two,

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01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: so yeah, two draft since they openly talk, like, yeah,

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: people have called us about him. This guy, they traded

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Speaker 1: three first round picks for technically two, but they swapp

1155
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Speaker 1: picks and then two other first round picks. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've had conversations. It's not something where to do right now.

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Speaker 1: This is a conversation that the general managers is openly having.

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Speaker 1: It's not even that weird. They got lucky because unlike

1159
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: the Jets, like the Jets suck, so they had to

1160
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Speaker 1: do the Rogers thing. They can't afford to miss on

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Forty nine ers miss on Trey Lance. Whatever

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Speaker 1: they've been to back to back conference championship games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's winning cures all. You can make disastrous moves. Disastrous moves.

1164
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: You can invest in every terrible stock. But if bitcoin

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Speaker 1: goes to one hundred and fifty grand and you have

1166
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Speaker 1: a lot of money invested in there, who cares? You'll

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Speaker 1: be fine? Right, Sometimes you get lucky, and I think

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Speaker 1: in forty nine Ers got a little lucky. We Brock

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Speaker 1: Party appreciate everyone listening, thanks to my video producer James,

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Speaker 1: my audio producer Holes, everyone at the Volume team, all

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Speaker 1: you guys out there in the Internet streets that are

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Speaker 1: listening the podcast, we appreciate you and let's have a

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