1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: with you, John Russell with us. John became aware of 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: his psychic abilities around the age of six, starting giving 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: psychic readings to friends and family at about age fifteen, 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: and by the age eighteen he was reading professionally. He 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: eventually became an internationally known and has more than forty 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: five years experience as a professional psychic with a worldwide 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: clientele and as a paranormal investigator. Has witnessed more than 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: eight hundred supernatural manifestations. A couple of his books include 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Writing with Ghosts, Angels, and the Spirits of the Dead, 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: and also A Knock in the Attic, True ghost Stories 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: and other spine chilling paranormal adventures. John, Welcome back and 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: Almost Happy Halloween. Do you yes? Almost Happy Halloween? George, 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me back. It's always a pleasure 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: to be here. We always have a good time. We 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: do wellward to it. We love you. On the program. 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: Let's go back a little bit for the new listeners 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: that are joining us all the time. Six years old. 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: This hall started six years old. This hall started I had. 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: When I was five years old. I was awakened by 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: this old black ghost and I knew he was old 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: because he had white hair and a white mustache. And 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: he scared the but Jesus out of me because I 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: was sound asleep in my home. Deh, my gosh. I 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night for no 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: apparent reason, and my parents had left a night light 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: on in the hallway so I could see if I 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: got up it and I woke up in whatever. So 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I wake up in the middle of the night, and 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: I thought, well, maybe I heard a sound or something. 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Something woke me up because I was just suddenly wide 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: awake for no apparent reason that I could discern. And 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: I raised up on my elbows in bed, and I 35 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: looked around, and I looked out my open bedroom door 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: down the hallway, and there was this elderly black gentleman 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: standing there, peering around the doorway. And I screamed bloody 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: murder because you know my family, he was white. We 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: didn't have anyone black living with us. So as a 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: five year old, my presumption was someone's broken in, someone's 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: entered the house. So as I'm watching this gentleman screaming 42 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: at the top of my lungs. Then here he comes 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: around the corner of the doorway into the hall, starts 44 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: walking toward the bed, locking eyes with me. And he 45 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: was as solid, George as you were. I wo. I 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: can tell you if what he had on. He wore 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: a red flannel shirt, and he had on khaki pants. 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 1: He had black shoes and a black belt. Like I say, 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: close cropped, white hair, white mustache, And I was just 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: every bit as solid as you were I And I 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: was just screaming my head off. And as he got 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: close to me and my parents began to come running, 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: he began to vanish. Then he got translucent, got a 54 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: little transparent, and then began to vanish and was gone. 55 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: Did he ever come back? As far as I know, 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: I have never seen him again. His job to come 57 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: and open up the portal to all of these paranormal 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: manifestations that I've experienced, so that I could experience the 59 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: other side directly firsthand, learn from the other side directly firsthand, 60 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: and then share those experiences with other people get the 61 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: knowledge I needed to later go on and become this 62 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: internationally known psychic. And shortly after that experience then my 63 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: psychic gift awakened, and the rest is history is was 64 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: any of this genetic, John, I mean, did it come 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: from your family? A little bit did Yeah, there was 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of a psychic gift, a little bit 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: of a psychic history in my family, and my family 68 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: had always had an interest in the paranormal, in psychic things, 69 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: in paranormal But no one in the family ever had 70 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: a gift as deep as mine, as powerful as mine, 71 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: as accurate as mine, as consistent. Nobody has ever had 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: the amount of experiences that I've had now in keeping 73 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: counters well over a thousand, well over thousand paranormal manifestations 74 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 1: that I've experienced on the physical realm, and a lot 75 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: of time we get those on film, we audio record them, 76 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: video record them. Many times there's other witnesses present. So 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: it's really been an incredible life, George. It really has 78 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: good for you. Lots of Halloween type ghost stories. I 79 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: want to get into with you tonight. John. But you 80 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: have talked about something called cloud busting. Tell me about that. 81 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: What is that exactly? George? I tell you this goes 82 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: back a long way in the history of the psychic 83 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: paranormal realm, cloudbusting is if you'll go outside on a 84 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: calm day and ice day. You want plenty of sunshine 85 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: and just a few little small clouds here and there 86 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: in the sky, and you sit down and focus your 87 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: attention and focus your energy on one of these small clouds, 88 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: and in your mind's eye, visualize from your forehead this 89 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: beam like a laser beam of light shooting out from 90 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: your forehead and going all the way to that cloud. 91 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Keep that stream going continuously until it touches that cloud. 92 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: And when it touches the cloud, see that being dispersing 93 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: within the cloud and dissolving the cloud. And say to 94 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: the cloud to say, thank you for dissolving, thank you 95 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: for receiving this energy, thank you for dissipating. And if 96 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: you really really focus and really do that and really 97 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: put your energy into it, that cloud will absolutely just vanish, 98 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: just evaporate. Now, anybody can learn to do this. This 99 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: is an old technique, gets proven, it goes way back, 100 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: and it's one of the first things that you begin 101 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: to teach people when you're trying to teach them psychic 102 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: development is because wow, look at that it works. And 103 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: the application that came to me the other day when 104 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. I hadn't thought about cloud 105 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: busting in a number of years. I practice it periodically 106 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: just to keep that energy going. But the thing that 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: came to me was, if we can use the power 108 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: of our minds that way, if we can use that 109 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: energy and direct it toward a cloud and opperate that cloud, 110 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: make that cloud dissolve, what about taking that energy and 111 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: focusing it towards that little bitty invisible coronavirus. Interesting all 112 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: of us every day getting up and focusing on that 113 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: virus and sending that energy out and say die dissolved, 114 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: to dissipate that thing, getting rid of it. Yeah, absolutely, 115 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: And so that's my called. Everybody is like, look, whenever 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: you can get up, take a few moments, focus focus 117 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: on that thing and focus on dissolving it, dissipating it, 118 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: getting rid of it, and nullifying it. John October twenty ninth, 119 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: which is a Friday, We're devoting the program to special 120 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: interviews and what we call ghost a Ghost where our 121 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: callers are listeners call in with their ghosts stories. Do 122 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: you have a favorite Halloween story? Oh? Man, I've got 123 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: I've got lots. You could take up the whole show 124 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: that night. I'll buy yourself. I bet I could. I 125 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: absolutely could, Georgia, I really could. But I think one 126 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: of the very favorite things I've experienced, and we may 127 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: have talked about this before on the show, but it 128 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: was such a phenomenal experience. I had this this beautiful 129 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: white cat named Poe Scepter Edgar Allen, and this was 130 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: one of the most beloved pits we had ever had 131 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 1: and owned. He became ill. He was well advanced in age. 132 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: We had him since he was young, and he was 133 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: up I don't know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. You know, cats 134 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: get up that age and they usually go, yeah, that's 135 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: a pretty good run for a cat too. It is, 136 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: It really really is, and we have won now as 137 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, that it's going on eighteen, which 138 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: is just incredible. This crazy, that's a phenomenal. But anyways, 139 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Poe died, and he died on Halloween night and just 140 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: just broke my heart and I thought, but how fitting 141 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: that he would die on Halloween night. You know, you 142 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: can't get much better than that, have a cat named 143 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: Poe that dies on Halloween. So a year or two 144 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: went by, I believe it was two years went by, 145 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: and of course I thought of him constantly, but especially 146 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: on Halloween, I'd think of him. And as we neared 147 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: the next Halloween coming up, my wife and I were 148 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: sitting there on the couch watching TV, and we had 149 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: these large glass doors looking out into the backyard. And 150 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: this was at our old home. We've since moved, but 151 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: this was at our old home, and we had endured 152 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: two hurricanes there, and the first hurricane we endured had 153 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: blown part of the fence down, and in the back 154 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: of us was a very thick woods, lots of vines, 155 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: lots of thicket's, lots of trees, brush, and so on 156 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: and so forth. So I'm sitting there and something catches 157 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: the corner of my eye. I look out, and my 158 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: wife's on the phone talking on the phone while we're 159 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: watching TV. And I look out into the backyard and George, 160 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: guess what comes walking out of the woods, up into 161 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: the fence, sits down and stares in our in our 162 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: doors at us, this brilliant white cat that is the 163 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: spitting him. And I grabbed my wife and I said, look, look, 164 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt you, but look look at the 165 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: can't look outside. It's bo And she just gets gob 166 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: smacked and hangs up the phone, gets off the phone 167 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: and we're like, oh my god, that's it's Po. Po 168 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: has come back to visit us. And so I opened 169 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: the door, went to go outside, and he got up, 170 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: walked back into the woods, and I was like, oh man, 171 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: and I just couldn't stand it. I just wanted to 172 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: get close to him. I just wanted to touch him 173 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: or talk to him closer. So I went back in 174 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: and sit back down, and as we're watching, he comes 175 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: back out of the woods, sits back down and stares again. 176 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: And kind of the mental message I get is like, 177 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: I can't let you come out and pet me. I 178 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: can't let you come out and touch me. You're gonna 179 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: have to be satisfied with this. But here I am. 180 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: I made it. I love you. I'm back here, I am. 181 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: So I got my phone out, zoomed in, took a picture, 182 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: and then in a little while he wandered off. Now 183 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: two things. This was a cat that when he walked 184 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: through the room, no exaggeration, clouds of hair would float 185 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: up off this cat. We ruined three vacuum cleaners with 186 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: this cat. And I went outside when he walked off, 187 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: and I examined the area where he was, and then 188 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: all of this thick stuff that he went through to 189 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: come to that fence and sit there, there was not 190 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: one single stray strand of cat hair anywhere. The second 191 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: thing was the photo that I took of him. When 192 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: I looked at it and enlarged it, you cannot see 193 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: any detail in this photo. You can't see eyes, you 194 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: can't see in the ears, you can't see an oz 195 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: or mouth. You just see the shimmering white outline of 196 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: the cat. And it was just just incredible. So they 197 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: do come back, they do visit, They do let us 198 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: know that they made it, and they do let us 199 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 1: know that they're there. Is this new house of yours haunted? Oh? Absolutely, 200 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: all houses are haunted. You may not be aware of it, 201 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: may not pay attention to it, but all houses are haunted. 202 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: And the reason for that is every place on the 203 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: planet has energy, has spirits. Spirits that either live there 204 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: or pass through there, decide to come there. If they're 205 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: passing through, they may decide to stay. Most of the 206 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: places on this planet that we think are uninhabited have 207 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: been inhabited in the past at one part or the other. 208 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: And there's lots of places where massacres have occurred and 209 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: things like that. Here in Florida, we have Matanzas Inlet 210 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: and Matanzas means slaughter and it's right on the beach 211 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: and it's this beautiful little area and all of these 212 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Spanish soldiers were killed there. It's like, you know, you 213 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: never know what to look at it. But on every 214 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: part of this planet, virtually there's been something going on 215 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: at some point, so every place is haunted. And the 216 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: new house, you know, we have the same experience as 217 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: we always do, footsteps, voices, sounds, objects moving, that type 218 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: of thing. But what is really really neat with the 219 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: move to the new house was that, you know, my 220 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: wife and we're getting up there, and so we had 221 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: her son and his girlfriend come and help us during 222 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: the move and help us pack some stuff up. And 223 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: my son and I were sitting there working together packing 224 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: some specific items, and there were things that I had 225 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: to get to the new office and get set up 226 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: so I can work do my podcasts and interviews and 227 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. So I'm paying particular attention 228 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: to what I'm putting in boxes, what goes in wat 229 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: and what goes in watch box, and we're doing that together, 230 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: and we seal these boxes up and then take them 231 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: out so that we can we can pack them up 232 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: and bring them over here. So when I get over here, 233 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, man, I'm I'm just 234 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: almost set up. But there's a couple of them said 235 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: I really really really need for my desk, and I 236 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: have no idea where they're at. And so I walked 237 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: out in the garage where we've got a lot of 238 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: the boxes, and I just told my guys, I said, guys, 239 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: I said, guide me to this, because you know, I 240 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: really need this. And I was led to this box 241 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: that my wife had packed and had said John's shoes 242 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: and like some other items and stuff like that. And 243 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: I cut the tape, opened it up, and low and 244 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: behold the items that my boy and I had packed 245 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: and sealed in one box now appeared in this box. Wow. 246 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: Now you also purchased a haunted doll, didn't you? From eBay? 247 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: We did. There was my wife and I saw a 248 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: TV show and we kind of got into haunted dolls, 249 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: so we thought, let's get a haunted doll. So we 250 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: looked on eBay and there was this haunted doll for 251 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: sale from this lady, and everything seemed very reputable and 252 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: very realistic about this, and it was that it was 253 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: sold as a haunted doll, right exactly. That's how she 254 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: advertised it, and to talk about some of the manifestations 255 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: that occurred around the doll. And we were like, yes, 256 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: I gotta have that, we want that. So we we 257 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: bought the hunted doll, got her home and know she 258 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: was delivered to us, and got her home, and there 259 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: was a definite energy about her, a definite strength and 260 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: energy about her, and there were a few physical manifestations 261 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: that we had and we would talk to her and 262 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: welcome her to the home and you know, make her 263 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: at home, make her at peace, and all that type 264 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: of thing, because obviously there was some spirit living in 265 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: there in her. And one night I had this dream 266 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: and the doll came to me in the dream and said, 267 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: you've been so kind to me and so helpful, and 268 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: thank you for releasing me. I'm going to go now 269 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: and went up in flames, literally just went up in 270 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: flames and vanished in the dream. And I was like, wow, 271 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: that's bizarre. So the next day I got up and 272 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: I had the doll in my office, and it seemed 273 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: like the doll was just lifeless, just a regular dollar. 274 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: Didn't seem like there was any energy or anything there. 275 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: And I opened up my email and I had an 276 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: email from this woman and she said, I wanted to 277 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: make sure that you're okay, that no fire has occurred 278 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: in your house, or your house hadn't burn down or anything. 279 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: She said, I dreamed about the doll last night and 280 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: that the doll went up in flames. How could someone 281 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: like you, who is so psychically inclined get zapped with 282 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: so many ghost stories like this? Oh, that's that's easy. 283 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: You know. I have to you know, pay the bills, 284 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: and I have to focus on calling for the service 285 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: for the hot water heater. I have to answer client emails. 286 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: I have to do this, so my attention is not 287 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: always one hundred percent. On the other side, you know, 288 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: I have to split my focus. I have to fix 289 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: breakfast or you know, do whatever, just like everybody else does. 290 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: So in that process, it's it can it can be 291 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: easy to get blindsided psychically. Absolutely, My gosh. Now what 292 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: about you have some real manifestations of haunted camera stories? 293 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: What were they? Oh? Man, those are just really great, George, 294 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: I tell you. The first one concerns a literal, real camera, 295 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: and it's a thirty five millimeter camera. It's a very 296 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: first thirty five millimeter camera of her own, and it 297 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: took really great photos and I was becoming a good 298 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: photographer with it. And one night we had this little seance, 299 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: little circle, and I decided to try some ghost photography 300 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: spirit photography. So we all agreed that a woman had 301 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: come and attended our circle in spirit, and we all 302 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: described her the same way, so we knew we were 303 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: picking up on the same spirit, the same entity. And 304 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: I took the camera and I put it toward her 305 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: and I said I want to take your picture, and 306 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: everybody else there said, John, she doesn't want you to 307 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: take that picture. And I was like, well, I want 308 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: to get this shot, so excuse me, man, but I 309 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: really want you to manifest on film. And again they said, John, 310 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: she doesn't want you to take that picture. But I 311 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: took the pictures anyway. So this is a film camera 312 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: back in the days of film before digital. What's film? Yeah? Really? 313 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: And what happens next if you know anything about film 314 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: cameras is literally physically impossible, because I would hit the 315 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: film advanced lever, and the everything would spend, the numbers 316 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: would advance and everything else. But I could feel that 317 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: the film had not advanced in the camera, and I 318 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: hit the lever again, hit the lever again, and it 319 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't advance, even though everything else was working. And I 320 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: went in some darkness and opened up the back of 321 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: the camera. Looked sure enough, it was on the exact 322 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: same frame as when I had shot her. So the 323 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: camera literally just would not work. The film would not advance. 324 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: And so I'd tried a few more times to take 325 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: a picture, and everybody told me. They said, okay, you know, 326 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: tell her, I'm sorry, tell her I'm gonna stop. I'm 327 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: not going to take any more pictures. I told her that. 328 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: I said, okay, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have tried to 329 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: take the picture when you didn't want me to. And 330 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: everybody said not to and they said, now the camera 331 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: will work again, try it, and I did, and the 332 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: camera worked. 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