Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour is presented by Duval Motor Company and now
Speaker 1: a guy whose point of emphasis has never been taunting,
Speaker 1: j P. Shad I don't know what it's been, but
Speaker 1: welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. My name's j P.
Speaker 1: Shadrick Jeff Lagman alongside. We have a lot to get
Speaker 1: to today, including the Urban Meyer Trent Valkeey review. They
Speaker 1: both set in front of a camera yesterday and spoke
Speaker 1: with the media over a zoom press conference a little
Speaker 1: over a week before the NFL Draft. Now today, one
Speaker 1: week away from the draft, will review some of their comments,
Speaker 1: including balancing value and need. Well, Urban Meyer, and we'll
Speaker 1: get into some of those comments from each side. Balky
Speaker 1: is a big value you that's big been his big
Speaker 1: word lately, and you know need and and all that.
Speaker 1: It's kind of urban Myers the thing of it, and
Speaker 1: the value is kind of new to him in the NFL. Well,
Speaker 1: the search for information in this pre draft process has
Speaker 1: been interesting. Our comments on that. The off season program underway,
Speaker 1: and we'll go around the National Football League and some
Speaker 1: rules changes that we're voted in this week as well logs.
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, man, good afternoon. How the heck are you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm doing good, man. Day has been good,
Speaker 1: Gonna get better. Yeah, that's a good thing. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: keep keep the keep it moving up to JP. The
Speaker 1: trajectory is up. Okay, that's good, you know, and and
Speaker 1: and so and here's the best part is that the
Speaker 1: day has been great so far. It's gonna be capped
Speaker 1: off with a fantastic meal tonight. Oh and some good fellowship.
Speaker 1: It's a it's all good. That's pretty good day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, it's a fantastic dude. You've had a You've
Speaker 1: had a day. I've had a good We're gonna have
Speaker 1: a good hour ahead. That's all we can control. Moving
Speaker 1: forward here, let's get right into it from yesterday, Urban
Speaker 1: Meyer Trent Bawky sat down and had their press conference
Speaker 1: before the draft next week. Of course, did you catch
Speaker 1: much of it? What's your I read the transcripts and everything,
Speaker 1: and boy, you missed the the in person. Usually it
Speaker 1: would be like like a media lunch and to gather
Speaker 1: and get a free meal and and and here the
Speaker 1: coach and the general manager give you absolutely nothing. But
Speaker 1: but I think the insight was pretty good on Urban's
Speaker 1: part and Trent Bawky's part. It would have been nice
Speaker 1: to be able to do it in a in a
Speaker 1: personal setting as far as like it's been done in
Speaker 1: the past, but obviously this is the COVID world that
Speaker 1: we live in. But but I thought they were they
Speaker 1: were very revealing, and I thought that urban Meyer particularly
Speaker 1: was very revealing when he started talking about balancing the
Speaker 1: value and the need. Uh uh. And we can get
Speaker 1: right into that because most coaches that they want instant gratification,
Speaker 1: no doubt, and he's always had that in college. By
Speaker 1: the way, in recruiting four and five star guys, you
Speaker 1: doesn't have to go draft and develop again. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't need to worry about that. You don't need to
Speaker 1: worry about contracts in college. But as a coach in college, look,
Speaker 1: you can go and get a junior college transfer. You
Speaker 1: can go have a great recruiting class and change the
Speaker 1: dynamic of your football team instant. Well, in the NFL,
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to do that by balancing
Speaker 1: the payroll. And that's the hard part. So when when
Speaker 1: they keep using this term value, value essentially means that
Speaker 1: you need to get a strong performance for the money
Speaker 1: that you are paying this individual. So you need to
Speaker 1: get a strong return for your dollars. And that's something
Speaker 1: new or certainly different than the college game and the NFL.
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. If you're gonna be
Speaker 1: a team that has great success, you have to have
Speaker 1: a roster that gives you a lot of value. Let's
Speaker 1: hear from Urban Meyer on this topic from yesterday in
Speaker 1: the media conference. As a coach, I find myself always
Speaker 1: looking at need and that's where you gotta be cautious.
Speaker 1: You start chasing players instead of this whole the whole
Speaker 1: idea of value is completely new to me, and that's
Speaker 1: something that, uh, you know, I'm relying on, you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Cullen and Bebel as coordinators, and Brian Snyder who
Speaker 1: have extensive experience in the NFL, and then obviously Trent
Speaker 1: and his staff. So I've I'm a quick learner. I've
Speaker 1: been working at this now for about three months and
Speaker 1: the last I can't imagine the last three or four weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, this has been our entire life in that room,
Speaker 1: watching video, stacking the board. So trusting the board is key.
Speaker 1: I'm at the point almost there that I will trust it.
Speaker 1: But as a coach, I can see where you, uh,
Speaker 1: we need this, we need this, and we need this,
Speaker 1: and that's where you get yourself in trouble. So it's
Speaker 1: been a great learning experience for me. And ask your question, nervous,
Speaker 1: I'm nervous, spoilt everything. I think that's Irvan Meyer yesterday.
Speaker 1: Let's also hear from Trent Balky the other perspective this thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't count how many times he said the word
Speaker 1: value yesterday, but here are a few of them. I
Speaker 1: think when you when you look at the draft, you're
Speaker 1: looking at value. You're you're stacking the board based on
Speaker 1: the value of a player, not necessarily on need. If
Speaker 1: you do that, you you tend to overvalue players. And
Speaker 1: you do that consistently, and you're not going to be
Speaker 1: in the game long. So you know, what we try
Speaker 1: to do is just look at the player for what
Speaker 1: he is, stacked the board for what it is, and
Speaker 1: and let the board speak to us on draft day
Speaker 1: and if there's as if there's a player there at
Speaker 1: a position of need and we have it valued that way,
Speaker 1: the decision would be to go with the with the need.
Speaker 1: So It's not like Auji Board talking to you a
Speaker 1: little different on you know, you stacked the board like
Speaker 1: you said. There, so and remember the right, I've never
Speaker 1: personally played with them, but so uh either way, So
Speaker 1: that's the difference, right, I mean, urbans trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what the definition of value is in balance and
Speaker 1: marriage and things about you. I never knew playing with
Speaker 1: them about boards, right. Yeah. The one thing that I
Speaker 1: think is interesting what Trent Balky talks about and you
Speaker 1: say that, I lost count how many times that he
Speaker 1: says the word value. We've we've had some fun around
Speaker 1: here in the past when you have catch words like
Speaker 1: that and you count them. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. Yeah. But anyway, the
Speaker 1: the one thing I think that is pretty cool, and
Speaker 1: this might be a need exercise for somebody that is
Speaker 1: into the mock draft type of things. Pro Football Focus
Speaker 1: actually has a mock drafter. Have you ever seen that JP? No,
Speaker 1: literally I have not. You go to this website and
Speaker 1: if you put in PFF mock draft, and you can
Speaker 1: do this while we're on the show right here, drafter.
Speaker 1: When you go to it, you actually, okay, yes, you
Speaker 1: choose which team you are, so you can I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pick they. So you make your pick, okay, and then
Speaker 1: what it does, it fills in all the other picks
Speaker 1: and then you're back on the clock again at so
Speaker 1: you're gonna pick I woul assume Trevor Lawrence at one,
Speaker 1: and then it populates the picks two through and then
Speaker 1: you're back on the plock. And then you have a
Speaker 1: value board that you can look at what the best
Speaker 1: available candidates are and they have rankings and so value
Speaker 1: would be something of this nature to where you're you
Speaker 1: do the simulator and you're always picking the person that
Speaker 1: is at the top of the players remaining on your board.
Speaker 1: And so but it's a cool little simulator thing. And
Speaker 1: the distracted Trevor Lawrence, okay, in this mock, you know
Speaker 1: what will happen is that they will make all the
Speaker 1: picks two and then you're on the clock again. And
Speaker 1: then the safety went three picks ahead. That's unfortunate, Bateman.
Speaker 1: The wide receiver's gone very tucker. The town a cool thing.
Speaker 1: It's a really cool thing. And so, um what you
Speaker 1: do then once you make all your selections, you're making
Speaker 1: every pick that the Jaguars have, you're making two and
Speaker 1: round one two and round two two and round four,
Speaker 1: you got one third round pick, you got your you know,
Speaker 1: your late round picks. You do all of them, and
Speaker 1: then once you're done, they give you a grade on
Speaker 1: every pick, and then they also give you an overall grade.
Speaker 1: So it's just something fun to do. So if you're
Speaker 1: a Jaguars fan and you want to play like Urban
Speaker 1: Meyer and Trent Balky a little bit between now and
Speaker 1: the draft next Thursday night, this is an awesome little
Speaker 1: thing and an awesome little tool I think I ended
Speaker 1: up getting. I think I did about ten drafts right now.
Speaker 1: I would do something different every time, and I did
Speaker 1: something different a lot of times because they would choose
Speaker 1: some different things, and I would do it just out
Speaker 1: of curiosity of what kind of a grade would I
Speaker 1: get if I picked and reached for a center in
Speaker 1: round two? You know that was rated thirty players below
Speaker 1: the guy that was the top of the board. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it's a cool little thing, and it's something that I
Speaker 1: think fans of any team can have fun with and
Speaker 1: uh and become a general manager for a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: I gotta say I'm about tired of mock drafts though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's like two minutes. But to complete a draft,
Speaker 1: there's so many mocks, and they all changed after free agency.
Speaker 1: To remember that everybody the wave of mox and then
Speaker 1: totally agency hits, and now we're doing another wave of
Speaker 1: mox and now there's the week of mocks and trade
Speaker 1: mocks only, and like all these mocks everywhere, uh it
Speaker 1: uh and that that's just the way it is. And
Speaker 1: I don't read, I really don't. I don't read a
Speaker 1: lot of mock drafts. I don't I like to read
Speaker 1: the rankings or how they rank players, how they how
Speaker 1: people stack players, because I think in the mocks, I mean,
Speaker 1: sometimes people do things for entertainment value, which is great,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's the whole purpose. You want to
Speaker 1: be entertained, just like with the with the PFF mock
Speaker 1: Draft simulator. But uh, I get a little tired of
Speaker 1: reading mock draft you know what I mean. And because
Speaker 1: there's so many different possible outcomes and so you don't know,
Speaker 1: especially like the seven round mocks. Who the hell knows
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in the seventh round. Well, if you
Speaker 1: do the PFF simulator, a bunch of times. You might
Speaker 1: have a clue, you'll have a better you might have
Speaker 1: a better idea. I know my homework for the weekend.
Speaker 1: And the nice thing is, too, is they actually have
Speaker 1: a little bit of a description about every player in there,
Speaker 1: so you can for for people that are looking to
Speaker 1: maybe learn the draft a little bit better, this is
Speaker 1: a a good way to do it. It's great, you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be doing it the weekend and just
Speaker 1: just do that. Yeah, JP and Jovi doing the Funday
Speaker 1: And when we get back, Joe's wife Lynda is gonna
Speaker 1: be Joe coming to bed. I'm on the sixth round.
Speaker 1: Give me, I got a few picks, were trading up.
Speaker 1: We're trading up. A lot going on, all right, So
Speaker 1: there your mock drafts are here. We're a week away, man, Finally,
Speaker 1: well it's not even finally. We're still a week to go.
Speaker 1: But well, and I think the best part is we're
Speaker 1: a week away from what what many expect that this
Speaker 1: franchise is gonna be the directions changing next Thursday night,
Speaker 1: regardless of how it how it turns out, it's one
Speaker 1: of those where it'll be before Trevor and after Trevor.
Speaker 1: Really it could be if he turns out to be
Speaker 1: one of the great Um, this is the moment. Well,
Speaker 1: this is the moment, artless of what he turns out
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, if he turns out to be
Speaker 1: the next Hall of Fame type quarterback, it's certainly it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a monumentous occasion. If he turns out
Speaker 1: to not be a Hall of Fame type quarterback and
Speaker 1: something bad happens, we'll still look back at it and
Speaker 1: say that was the day that could have changed the franchise.
Speaker 1: But I mean, so this is the day that the
Speaker 1: franchise is changing next Thursday night, and it's changing with
Speaker 1: that pick and then obviously the ensuing pis But but
Speaker 1: it's an exciting time. Look, uh, you know, I've been
Speaker 1: kind of a casual observer of this draft as far
Speaker 1: as evaluating some of the talent, I haven't had as
Speaker 1: much time this year. But the one position that I
Speaker 1: have watched his quarterback, and make no mistake about it,
Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence is everything is advertised everything. And uh,
Speaker 1: I got excited about Patrick Mahomes a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and I said that I thought he was the greatest
Speaker 1: quarterback that I've ever watched film on. You did say that,
Speaker 1: and I and and I'm willing. I'm not willing to
Speaker 1: go to that extent with Trevor Lawrence, but I'm willing
Speaker 1: to say that he is right there as the second
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback that I've ever watched film on. He's impressive.
Speaker 1: Right behind He's right there with Andrew Luck. You know,
Speaker 1: because I don't go back to the John Elways and
Speaker 1: the Marinos. I didn't watch film on them, Okay, but
Speaker 1: watching Trevor Lawrence on film, he can do anything and everything,
Speaker 1: and he's got a certain presence about him obviously, and
Speaker 1: he's had great success. And so when you combine all
Speaker 1: of the physical attributes, which is what really stood out
Speaker 1: on film and watching Patrick Moms, when you watch Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: the physical attributes stand out, but then also just what
Speaker 1: he's been able to accomplish at a young age in college,
Speaker 1: leading a Clemson team to a national championship right out
Speaker 1: of the gate. I mean, it's just impressive. Plenty more
Speaker 1: Trevor talk ahead, we'll hear again from Urban Meyer and
Speaker 1: Trent Baukey on the potential number one overall pick a
Speaker 1: little later. Yeah, potential, it's it's not that there's still
Speaker 1: a chance. They got got to talk to ownership first
Speaker 1: to see We'll hear from Urban and see what you
Speaker 1: an ownership is saying right now. Probably why you ask
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing I'm tired of hearing about bad players.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of hearing about bad coaching, all this stuff.
Speaker 1: To hear the me you and fans talk about. You
Speaker 1: know what, we don't have bad players. A matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we have exceptional players at certain positions, some that have
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Speaker 1: That's Urban Meyer, of course, and welcome back. It's Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lockerman. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: fun tonight. It's Urban. That's the first team meeting, like
Speaker 1: it's the first meeting. It's a virtual meeting, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be weird, guess to be to be a head
Speaker 1: coach and to do a virtual team meeting like that
Speaker 1: where you're standing up in front of the room and
Speaker 1: talking to a camera and your first interaction with your
Speaker 1: team everyday, it's it's just different. It's just so different,
Speaker 1: and you know, I I hope that uh in the future,
Speaker 1: next year that you can get back to the normalcy
Speaker 1: of having coaches and players interact. And uh, I know
Speaker 1: that this stage of the all season program is is
Speaker 1: only virtual and then the opportunity for in person stuff
Speaker 1: will come up in Phase two, three or four days long.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not a very long period of time,
Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's what that's what coaching and
Speaker 1: the coach player relationship is about. It's not about watching
Speaker 1: a guy on a phone or watching a guy on
Speaker 1: a laptop screen. I mean, that's just it's just not normal,
Speaker 1: you know. So I if I was a player, I
Speaker 1: would long for having some normalcy of being coached in person,
Speaker 1: being on the field in person, not being oh hey,
Speaker 1: you know how you've been Oh yeah, good, and you know,
Speaker 1: and you might be at home and you got the
Speaker 1: camera from here up and you know, you look like
Speaker 1: your professional prepared. The next thing, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the guys got cheetos and we're in his underwear
Speaker 1: or something, you know, he was off the camera or something.
Speaker 1: You know. I mean, just just it's just different. It's
Speaker 1: just odd and just real quick a note, yes lives
Speaker 1: you know, the NFL p A and I know you're
Speaker 1: probably going to do this later on, Let's do it now.
Speaker 1: I know we we had a last week. If you
Speaker 1: miss our show last week, and I don't know why
Speaker 1: you would. The logs, you had a nice run there
Speaker 1: on the Players Association and their announcements on behalf of
Speaker 1: certain teams that they were going to skip voluntary workouts
Speaker 1: in this offseason, and you were against the way they
Speaker 1: did that. Well, first of all, they put the release
Speaker 1: out and then cited safety issues with COVID, which is
Speaker 1: totally inaccurate. The league has more safety precaution measures in
Speaker 1: place than anywhere else player could possibly train unless he's
Speaker 1: gonna train on his own in some cabin out in
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, okay, and not be around anybody.
Speaker 1: But we all know that that's not the reality. Players
Speaker 1: don't have the facilities that are available to them that
Speaker 1: they would have here. Some players, some players, but JP
Speaker 1: was very small. But to go back to the league
Speaker 1: started the off season activities really when Jimmy Johnson came
Speaker 1: into the National Football League in nine, which is my
Speaker 1: rookie year. That's when everybody started doing it because Jimmy
Speaker 1: was winning and he was doing it, so then everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to do it. And I will say that in
Speaker 1: my six years in New York, we never had all
Speaker 1: season activities with my teammates. We didn't have it. We
Speaker 1: got together for mini camp and what we did at
Speaker 1: mini camp was not so much about practicing, but we
Speaker 1: drank more beer than we did anything out because we
Speaker 1: hadn't seen each other in a while in the town.
Speaker 1: But when I came to Jacksonville and Tom Coughlin had
Speaker 1: his program set and obviously he had it set up
Speaker 1: to mirror a lot of what Jimmy Johnson did, it
Speaker 1: was tremendous. And it was tremendous in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: Number One, you're working towards the common goal. You're getting
Speaker 1: to know your teammates, You're getting to know your coaches.
Speaker 1: You're getting competition that develops in the weight room that
Speaker 1: made me better, that made me physically better that I
Speaker 1: could not do that on my own. It created a
Speaker 1: bond between guys on the team, the guys that were
Speaker 1: that were on the team. I mean, it was a
Speaker 1: very special bond because we were together and we were
Speaker 1: together a lot, and in the bond between the coaches
Speaker 1: as well. It was it was it was all part
Speaker 1: of a process that was formed, and it was all
Speaker 1: in the in the whole concept of trying to improve
Speaker 1: as a team because we knew that we were going
Speaker 1: to be an upstart and expansion team and we had
Speaker 1: to be at our best in every total way in
Speaker 1: order for us to be competitive. That's all season in
Speaker 1: that year I hold near and dear in my heart
Speaker 1: because it was the first time that I got to
Speaker 1: experience a team in an all season. And so what
Speaker 1: the Union is is kind of doing in a way
Speaker 1: is encouraging not to have that atmosphere. And if the
Speaker 1: players don't ever get to experience that atmosphere of creating
Speaker 1: the sense of team and creating bonds and friendships, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're missing out. And so that's why it's just kind
Speaker 1: of disappointing for me from the Union standpoint. And look
Speaker 1: and I and I understand that the Union is there
Speaker 1: to make sure that things are that are voluntary are
Speaker 1: truly in fact voluntary, get it. But but I think
Speaker 1: that they're they're going about it in a little bit
Speaker 1: of a wrong fashion and that they're almost looking down
Speaker 1: upon some of the great benefits of having the off
Speaker 1: season together with your teammates. Because I can tell you this,
Speaker 1: I had a great off season. Corey Mayfield, Joe Shmany,
Speaker 1: Calvin Pritchett, Don Davy, I mean, all these guys that
Speaker 1: we had as defensive lineman, Ernie Logan that first year, Jason,
Speaker 1: I mean all of us. We had a great time,
Speaker 1: got to know guys, you know, and and that kind
Speaker 1: of carried us through the season. And uh and I
Speaker 1: hope that teams and players on teams that haven't decided
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do yet, I can remember that. That's
Speaker 1: also a very special part of the O T A S.
Speaker 1: That is the as a benefit and not so much
Speaker 1: a distraction to what the all season can be. Anyway,
Speaker 1: just wanted to I want to say that because that
Speaker 1: was an eye opener from e JP I had, even
Speaker 1: though even Tom Coughlin was a total pan the ass. Okay,
Speaker 1: just put that out there. Okay, your battles are noted.
Speaker 1: He required us to do things that were way over
Speaker 1: the top, and he violated so many different rules and protocols.
Speaker 1: There's no question about all that. But I appreciate him
Speaker 1: for what he did because you know, it helped me
Speaker 1: experience something that took me back to college and it
Speaker 1: created a great sense of team and uh and I
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Speaker 1: the guy to my left about that we've had a
Speaker 1: couple of dry runs. We're gonna have a couple of
Speaker 1: dry runs again. I'm gonna control nuts and organizational nuts.
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure that I want to
Speaker 1: know where people are sitting. I want to know what camera,
Speaker 1: what we're gonna be looking at on the screens, and
Speaker 1: and Trent's been great, and this is the first time
Speaker 1: this organization, this uh personnel of this organization and do it.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be on point. And so at this
Speaker 1: point we we've had a couple of dry runs, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna go in great detail early next week about
Speaker 1: exactly how it takes place, and so I'll feel much
Speaker 1: better after that. That's urban Meyer discussing his first draft
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Speaker 1: and giveaways. So, uh, they got to build the room
Speaker 1: and do all that. And they've done that, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a different space than normal this year, and
Speaker 1: the normal draft room is no longer in use at
Speaker 1: least for now, so they've moved i think down the
Speaker 1: hall to an additional, bigger space. You can have more
Speaker 1: people in there and that kind of thing. So all
Speaker 1: that's coming up this week, and it's all coming up
Speaker 1: because the Jaguars around the clock, they will be number
Speaker 1: one overall. Here's something when he when he starts talking
Speaker 1: about cam and such and where things are gonna be
Speaker 1: at and because look, the league is going to be
Speaker 1: watching the the football world is going to be paying attention.
Speaker 1: The football world is gonna have a camera in this
Speaker 1: room here in Jacksonville for that first overall pick in
Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, this is this is a big deal.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure that uh, one of the look, if
Speaker 1: you're drafting, you know, and you're in the twenties or
Speaker 1: something like that, maybe you're not that concerned about it.
Speaker 1: But look, I mean this is also another opportunity at
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer making a first impression, you know, with the
Speaker 1: Jaguars obviously in tow to America, to prospective free agents,
Speaker 1: to all of these guys that are going to be
Speaker 1: drafted this year, because you're trying to build a little
Speaker 1: bit of a resume, and so by making a positive
Speaker 1: impression with everything that is shown from here is going
Speaker 1: to help reflect well on your organization in the future.
Speaker 1: So um, so I get it. I mean, he wants
Speaker 1: to know exactly what it's gonna look like, what it's
Speaker 1: gonna feel like, and and that's I think why he
Speaker 1: said that. You know, look, I'll feel a lot more
Speaker 1: comfortable once we do that dry run the early part
Speaker 1: of next week and we know how things are gonna
Speaker 1: be set up and then and then we roll. So
Speaker 1: but a pretty cool little deal there, though, you know,
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a lot of attention, right yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that number one overall pick for the
Speaker 1: first time ever. And Urban was asked yesterday in that
Speaker 1: media conference, you know, you said on the Peter King
Speaker 1: podcast the other week they were leaning in the Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence direction. He wouldn't go out and all the way
Speaker 1: said he was gonna let the ownership make that move.
Speaker 1: He was asked again, are you ready to make that
Speaker 1: decision now? And what's holding you back? And here's the answer.
Speaker 1: We are knee deep in the NFL draft process obviously,
Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna meet with ownership tomorrow and
Speaker 1: and uh, Trent and I are, you know, working together,
Speaker 1: but ultimately that's the owner is gonna pull that ticket
Speaker 1: on that one. And so we're gonna have a great
Speaker 1: meeting tomorrow, and I imagine we'll get closer to a decision.
Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, if you're a fly on the
Speaker 1: wall in that meeting room logs, what would it sound
Speaker 1: like in there? Mr con We've made our decision, we think,
Speaker 1: but with your blessing, we're gonna draft Forrevor Lawrence. Well, yeah, right, No,
Speaker 1: I don't know, obvious, right, I don't know what else
Speaker 1: you supposed to say. I don't know, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a look. Uh, And I think that meetings tomorrow. I think, well,
Speaker 1: they moved it around a couple of times and then
Speaker 1: I think they decided that it was today to their
Speaker 1: days mixed up that there's no windows back there. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean there are
Speaker 1: no windows, don't know what time of day, and they
Speaker 1: kind of lose track of what's going on. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's uh, you know, like ownership is. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm sure is a static about the possibility of drafting
Speaker 1: a franchise altering quarterback, because that's what truly can change
Speaker 1: the fortune obviously of this franchise, and you have to
Speaker 1: have a lot of other things in place to make
Speaker 1: it all work, but it it is truly a special moment.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Trent Balky, now Jaguars general manager, when
Speaker 1: asked about the research behind Trevor Lawrence the Zoom interviews,
Speaker 1: the calling of sources around Trevor to get in his
Speaker 1: background a little bit. What did they find? Was there
Speaker 1: anything wrong in the background of Trevor Lawrence? Well, the
Speaker 1: easiest way to answer that is no negatives. You know,
Speaker 1: all the research we've done. You know, you're always looking
Speaker 1: for the stars to align when you're looking at prospects,
Speaker 1: whether that be from a physical, mental, character back, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. And with with this situation,
Speaker 1: like many others in this draft, the stars all aligned,
Speaker 1: and that's what you're looking for. You told me for
Speaker 1: TV that we did an interview this week as well.
Speaker 1: It'll air next week in the UK and then on
Speaker 1: television here on Draft Night. Yeah, it's it's about as
Speaker 1: clean a prospect as he's seen well, and that's, uh,
Speaker 1: that's incredibly rare if you go to quarterback prospects that
Speaker 1: are or were incredibly clean. I mean Andrew Luck, I
Speaker 1: mean Andrew Luck was as clean as a whistle successful,
Speaker 1: had everything checked all the boxes, much like Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: And so, uh, no question that Trent Balky is right
Speaker 1: and that the stars don't always align on many guys,
Speaker 1: but they certainly were aligned with Andrew Luck, and they're
Speaker 1: aligned with Trevor Lawrence. And there are some alignments of
Speaker 1: with other guys, but at a different level. Because when
Speaker 1: you're talking about the first overall picking the draft and
Speaker 1: it being a quarterback, I mean, it's just not very
Speaker 1: often that everything aligns, and so a very rare occasion
Speaker 1: for for and and and the best part is is
Speaker 1: that it's if you were if you pulled every general
Speaker 1: manager in the National Football League, every one of them,
Speaker 1: and if you pulled all the quote unquote experts of
Speaker 1: who is worthy of being the first overall pick. Would
Speaker 1: anybody say something different than Trevor Lawrence? I don't think something.
Speaker 1: I mean, there might be one or two just because
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's the only one that I've
Speaker 1: even heard that even has an inkling that it would
Speaker 1: be something different. I want to say it's Chris Simms
Speaker 1: came out and said that Zack Wilson, Zack Wilson would
Speaker 1: be the guy. But he's the only one, and that
Speaker 1: and that's that's amazing, that's amazing. And in fact, the
Speaker 1: Jaguars had an article on jaguars dot com that if
Speaker 1: you looked in it and it's basically had all of
Speaker 1: people's mocks, that's the mock draft tracker. But on right
Speaker 1: and John wrote down who everybody had picked first overall?
Speaker 1: Was there anybody that wasn't? I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's all. It's all been Trevor all the time.
Speaker 1: And there was how many how many pet experts were
Speaker 1: on that list? It was dozens? Yeah, I can tell
Speaker 1: you this. I kept going, am I not scrowing the
Speaker 1: right way? What's going on? Yeah? Right? So there's that,
Speaker 1: and then you know, We also talked when when we
Speaker 1: had to sit down with Balky the other day. He
Speaker 1: has a history of moving around in drafts. By the way,
Speaker 1: he's not scared to pull the trigger and make a
Speaker 1: trade that we're not out of that one. He said,
Speaker 1: never say never on the ozone podcast when they asked
Speaker 1: about it. But really at thirty three and especially once you,
Speaker 1: like we were talking about the other week, you get
Speaker 1: to those later rounds. Is the value better in two?
Speaker 1: Is it you know? Or is there a certain guy
Speaker 1: in a in a position group in a place, a
Speaker 1: few spots up, Hey, let's put put some picks together
Speaker 1: and move. He did that. There was a window and
Speaker 1: draft he said. I asked him what was the what's
Speaker 1: the best draft day story, success, trade, moved whatever, And
Speaker 1: the first thing that hit his mind was where he
Speaker 1: executed three draft pick trades in like a five minute
Speaker 1: real time window, up, down, up again, different spots and
Speaker 1: ended up with Carlos Hide at the end of that.
Speaker 1: Who's now of course on the Jaguars roster again. But um,
Speaker 1: that was a lot of moving around and his first
Speaker 1: drafty took over late because of a change in the
Speaker 1: front office. Traded down to get Navarro bowman that worked out,
Speaker 1: got an extra fourth round pick. The next year used
Speaker 1: that pick to move up a few spots and get
Speaker 1: Kaepernick the quarterback, And those guys were a big piece
Speaker 1: of that Super Bowl run, the first one in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: no doubt. And I think that with the Jaguars, the
Speaker 1: number of picks you've heard me say about, Hey, look,
Speaker 1: if you can trade some of that current equity for
Speaker 1: future equity, be great. Yeah. The big question mark is
Speaker 1: is that you've got to be able to find a
Speaker 1: willing trading partner to be able to do that. And
Speaker 1: I think that this year's draft picks are not going
Speaker 1: to have quite the value. For examples I stretch, I
Speaker 1: think another way to say it besides using the word value,
Speaker 1: but this year's draft picks probably aren't going to have
Speaker 1: the value that they have had in past drafts, just
Speaker 1: because this year's picks there's a lot of unknowns with
Speaker 1: some of these players. Guys that had that opted out,
Speaker 1: there's guys that teams didn't play, there's guys that didn't
Speaker 1: go to Indianapolis for a medical check, and so the
Speaker 1: team is making a lot of these selections without medicals,
Speaker 1: without a season to evaluate, et cetera. So do these
Speaker 1: picks this year would they would would they hold the
Speaker 1: value to trade them away for future picks as they
Speaker 1: have in the past. Probably not. You may have to
Speaker 1: give more up now to get what you used to
Speaker 1: get in the future because of that, because of the
Speaker 1: unknowns that are involved with this year's picks or with
Speaker 1: the information involving this year's picks. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be able to trade now. Look, can
Speaker 1: you can you trade some of this year's equity to
Speaker 1: maybe move up in this year's Yeah, I think for
Speaker 1: this year's possibility. Yeah, but for but for trading a
Speaker 1: this year pick for a future pick, I don't think
Speaker 1: the value is going to give you as much as
Speaker 1: it's given you in the past. You know, because in
Speaker 1: years past, for example, you can move up around basically
Speaker 1: seven six, two to one, three to two, four to three, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: On down the line, my guess is is that you
Speaker 1: may not get a full round increase from moving from
Speaker 1: this year's draft to next year's draft. Mhmm. You see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And see what you say. I think
Speaker 1: you might. You might only get trade partners willing to
Speaker 1: do business. In the current draft, you may not get
Speaker 1: teams that are willing to give up the future equity
Speaker 1: as willingly just because they're all anticipating that next year, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be more normalcy, there's gonna be a combine,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be seasons. We're gonna have the ability to
Speaker 1: evaluate everything, and that will make next year's picks better
Speaker 1: because we're making determinations based on more information and less
Speaker 1: on faith as we are this year. So it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how that plays out, though, to see
Speaker 1: if that does in fact, is that impacted are the
Speaker 1: value the future values and related to this year are
Speaker 1: the impacted and how much it might not be. It
Speaker 1: might not be at all, might might not be at all,
Speaker 1: But it will be interesting to see none the lesson
Speaker 1: And this draft to me, because the Jaguars have a
Speaker 1: pick at and could move either way with that. If
Speaker 1: there's a guy they really wanted twenty, maybe they package somethings. Maybe.
Speaker 1: And then also because of what could happen at three,
Speaker 1: and then what could happen at four and five and
Speaker 1: six and seven, et cetera. The number of quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: are gonna be at the top of the draft. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is about as uh of an intriguing of a
Speaker 1: draft is that has been in recent memory, right, I
Speaker 1: mean this is I think there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of really good storylines in this draft.
Speaker 1: What was the big quarterback here? Eighty four was the
Speaker 1: Lway and those guys and Todd Blackledge and yeah that
Speaker 1: was that was Tony Easton. It was Marino U Marino,
Speaker 1: Tony Easton, Kenny O'Brien. So that was a big, big,
Speaker 1: obviously quarterback here. This this could be one, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: and yeah, which is this the last time was it
Speaker 1: where you had this number of quarterbacks at the top
Speaker 1: of the draft and it was uh, it was like, uh,
Speaker 1: Achille Smith and a couple other guys right at the
Speaker 1: top of the draft. I want to say that was
Speaker 1: and that's the last time that quarterbacks were like eating
Speaker 1: up the top of the first round. So that means
Speaker 1: some good players could slide down a little bit all
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. But yeah, I don't like to use the
Speaker 1: term slide just because that means that you're you're saying
Speaker 1: you're over you're overvaluing quarterbacks. There's no such thing as
Speaker 1: overvalueing quarterbacks in this league. There's such a thing as
Speaker 1: undervalue in a quarterback. But if you're not, if you're not,
Speaker 1: if you if you don't understand, if you're in personnel,
Speaker 1: and you don't understand that you have to have a
Speaker 1: quarterback in this league to win, you're full. You can
Speaker 1: value the wrong quarterback. That happens all the time. But
Speaker 1: you've got you gotta be willing. You've got to be
Speaker 1: willing to play the game, you know, because if you don't,
Speaker 1: you know, for example, look the Jaguars that you draft
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks that you were hoping we're gonna be franchise
Speaker 1: guys here that are in the Jaguars history. Byron Leftwich,
Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert, Blake Bortles. Nothing wrong with picking those three guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: look you take a chance. I mean, Byron had all
Speaker 1: the intangibles, the intelligence, I mean, you can see that now.
Speaker 1: He's a great coach, wasn't able to execute as well
Speaker 1: at a at a high level. Blaine had all the
Speaker 1: physical actects, great on the practice field, but wasn't able
Speaker 1: to translate in a game. And he he's improved, but
Speaker 1: he's still not what you know, you expected to be
Speaker 1: a franchise guy. Blake didn't have the skill set, but
Speaker 1: had the moxie and the toughness and the mindset a
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, so the it's never a mistake
Speaker 1: by picking a quarterback if you're in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: The mistake is is realizing or not realizing that they're
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Speaker 1: financing and giveaways. You're an r V guy, he gives
Speaker 1: a r V. Uh. I think r v's have a
Speaker 1: have a place. Absolutely, they're great. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's been a lot. Like when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: we went to r V places and camp rounds and
Speaker 1: all this a lot. It was cool, cool, And I
Speaker 1: know they're they're huge down especially during the pandemic, like
Speaker 1: people were buying RVs off the you know, they weren't
Speaker 1: couldn't they couldn't find one. My father in law has one.
Speaker 1: He loves it. And uh, I've done a couple of
Speaker 1: RV trips in the past and when I'm out West
Speaker 1: on an amazing hunting trip, it was awesome. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: those things can be uh truly amazing experience for something.
Speaker 1: And I can tell you this, if you're gonna get
Speaker 1: an r V, book your reservations well in advanced folks
Speaker 1: for the for the parks, because the people have been
Speaker 1: uh loading up the parks over the last two years.
Speaker 1: All Right, We've got some rule changes. Wells, I know
Speaker 1: the last week, a couple of weeks ago, we went
Speaker 1: through the proposed rule changes. Since then, the ownership in
Speaker 1: the NFL has voted to pass a handful of these,
Speaker 1: including eliminating over time in the preseason. That's done. That's
Speaker 1: no brighter, Thank goodness. They should have done that anyway.
Speaker 1: For one year, they will establish a maximum number of
Speaker 1: players in the setup zone. This is on kickoff return
Speaker 1: team and what twenty five yards to the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmager gonnaly be a certain amount of players to help
Speaker 1: with on site. Basically, it makes the possibility of having
Speaker 1: a successful onside kick, it raises the chance of it.
Speaker 1: So that's UH number one and number two. They tabled
Speaker 1: number three the rule change there so number four was
Speaker 1: to permit the replay officially and designated members of the
Speaker 1: officiating department to provide certain objective information to the on
Speaker 1: field officials. No brainer there. There was some that wanted
Speaker 1: to expand that and actually add another person into the
Speaker 1: replay booth that would allow that person to solely be
Speaker 1: essentially a sky judge. That was actually the Ravens pulled
Speaker 1: that back, UH and then put their support behind this proposal,
Speaker 1: and uh, and and I think it's good. The insurement
Speaker 1: of enforcement of all accepted penalties committed by either team
Speaker 1: during successive try attempts, extra points or two point conversions,
Speaker 1: and then adding a loss of down for a second
Speaker 1: forward pass from behind the line, and for a pass
Speaker 1: thrown after the ball returns behind the line. There was
Speaker 1: a Tom Brady play this year where he threw the ball,
Speaker 1: hit a defender, bounced back, he caught it, and then
Speaker 1: he threw it again. The pass and then the penalty
Speaker 1: basically would have given them another opportunity instead of loss
Speaker 1: of down. Well, I mean that's not right. He threw
Speaker 1: two passes, which you can't do. It should be a
Speaker 1: loss of down, and which now it is, so it's
Speaker 1: it makes sense. And then of course the last one,
Speaker 1: which is long overdue, which is allowing more Jersey option
Speaker 1: numbers for players the different positions, which it should have been.
Speaker 1: As I said before, it was getting a little tiresome
Speaker 1: to not see single digits allowed by players of different positions.
Speaker 1: It made zero sense to not allow it. Just leave
Speaker 1: zero out. No, I mean, dude, the longest yard, the
Speaker 1: big guy that uh, I think I broke his neck
Speaker 1: it was turned a little differently. He was double zero, right,
Speaker 1: somebody should be allowed let double zero? Let Jim Otto
Speaker 1: keep Did he wear double zero? Is that guy and
Speaker 1: longest yard? I don't know. Ken Burrow, by the way,
Speaker 1: is the last NFL player to wear double zero? From
Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville? What the range? Would you be opposed
Speaker 1: if somebody wore zero? That's don't like zero? And I
Speaker 1: don't know your personal preference? They started? Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So were you against the single digit rule too? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: there's a reason linebackers are certain numbers. There's a reason
Speaker 1: linemen are certain numbers. There's a reason defensive backs are
Speaker 1: certain numbers. And make a couple of exceptions if you
Speaker 1: have to. But like the Chiefs had to last year. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: don't change the whole rule. Do you sit too much noise?
Speaker 1: And that's terrible walking down the street? Yes, yes, Joe
Speaker 1: Fortunato Hello, Tom Brady said that it's a dumb rule
Speaker 1: because people won't know who to block. Now, aren't you
Speaker 1: just blocking the guy with the other jersey, Tom Brady? Look,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady needs to stick quarterback good at it's pretty
Speaker 1: good at it. You know who to block because you
Speaker 1: know which numbers they were. You study film. Okay, I
Speaker 1: know that John wears number one. Joe might wear number
Speaker 1: fifty something, so I know I got a block number
Speaker 1: one or number fifty. It's not that hard to figure out.
Speaker 1: And it's not like you change Oh my gosh, he's
Speaker 1: wearing a number one, so I can't block him. No,
Speaker 1: it's where he's lined up at. You could take the numbers. Seriously,
Speaker 1: you could take the numbers off of everybody on defense
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. We'll know who to block as long as
Speaker 1: they can identify one guy. Okay, the big tall dude
Speaker 1: with the blonde hair, he's the mic. They can all
Speaker 1: block after that. Okay, once they set the mic, they know.
Speaker 1: Why don't they just change all the offensive lineman numbers
Speaker 1: to let them wear whatever they want. They're not doing that. Well,
Speaker 1: that's different because it's a little different. Oh, you can't
Speaker 1: is an eligible number, JP. That's why they didn't expand
Speaker 1: single digits. Don't don't overcomplicate it. Come on, it's really simple, JP.
Speaker 1: It's really not that hard. And they're gonna tonning a
Speaker 1: point of emphasis this year, by the way, which it's
Speaker 1: always been a point of emphasis. They just said they
Speaker 1: got a little lax last year and they didn't call
Speaker 1: it as frequently as they should have. Should always have
Speaker 1: an emphasis always, Okay, And when we're not talking about celebration,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about a guy, you know, doing a
Speaker 1: dance in the end zone because he scores. We're talking
Speaker 1: about somebody who hits a guy stands over the top
Speaker 1: of him and points at him, or froze spikes the
Speaker 1: ball in his face or something of that nature. That's
Speaker 1: a little different. M I did like the playoff one though,
Speaker 1: where the guy did the victory signed to Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: after the final play of the game. It was the
Speaker 1: rookie safety for the Bucks because he did it to
Speaker 1: his dad played in the NFL for a long time.
Speaker 1: What is his name? I forget, but yeah, no it was.
Speaker 1: It happened to him. Tyreek did it to him, the
Speaker 1: peace sign stuff like him. Now he did it at
Speaker 1: the end of the what Super Bowl? I guess are
Speaker 1: you giving us the sign Alright, we'll wrap it up,
Speaker 1: he says, We'll wrap up with some sad news tonight.
Speaker 1: By the way, former Jaguars linebacker Geno Hayes, he played
Speaker 1: here in and fourteen, is now in hospice care. He's
Speaker 1: been battling liver disease for a couple of years. He's
Speaker 1: thirty three years old. He's in hospice care at his
Speaker 1: parents home in Georgia, and he's looking for a liver transplant.
Speaker 1: Now he's on the Mayo List. Our best wishes to Gino.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he gets it. Uh, he didn't just play for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. He also played for the Bears and the Bucks.
Speaker 1: Was a draft pick, I believe of the Bucks out
Speaker 1: of Florida States. So I hope, I hope he gets
Speaker 1: what he needs. Yeah, no doubt, And he was Those
Speaker 1: were some lean years here in Jacksonville. Of course the
Speaker 1: start of the rebuild, that what they thought was gonna
Speaker 1: be the rebuild. But he was the third leading tackler
Speaker 1: in rebuild rebuilding jp S still to this day. But
Speaker 1: our best wishes to Geno Hayes and his family for
Speaker 1: a full recovery. Hopefully at some point soon. Let's get
Speaker 1: that man, Oliver, And thank you folks for listening tonight.
Speaker 1: We've got a week to go. Loge peace. We're out
Speaker 1: of here. Thanks to Brent Reaver, thanks to Joe Fortunado,
Speaker 1: our entire crew for Jeff Locker, but I'm j P. Shadrick.
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