1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Happy Hour is presented by Duval Motor Company and now 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: a guy whose point of emphasis has never been taunting, 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: j P. Shad I don't know what it's been, but 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. My name's j P. 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Shadrick Jeff Lagman alongside. We have a lot to get 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: to today, including the Urban Meyer Trent Valkeey review. They 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: both set in front of a camera yesterday and spoke 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: with the media over a zoom press conference a little 10 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: over a week before the NFL Draft. Now today, one 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: week away from the draft, will review some of their comments, 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: including balancing value and need. Well, Urban Meyer, and we'll 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: get into some of those comments from each side. Balky 14 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: is a big value you that's big been his big 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: word lately, and you know need and and all that. 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of urban Myers the thing of it, and 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the value is kind of new to him in the NFL. Well, 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: the search for information in this pre draft process has 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: been interesting. Our comments on that. The off season program underway, 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: and we'll go around the National Football League and some 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: rules changes that we're voted in this week as well logs. 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, man, good afternoon. How the heck are you. 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm doing good, man. Day has been good, 24 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Gonna get better. Yeah, that's a good thing. Yeah, it's 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: keep keep the keep it moving up to JP. The 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: trajectory is up. Okay, that's good, you know, and and 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: and so and here's the best part is that the 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: day has been great so far. It's gonna be capped 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: off with a fantastic meal tonight. Oh and some good fellowship. 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: It's a it's all good. That's pretty good day. Yeah, 31 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I know, it's a fantastic dude. You've had a You've 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: had a day. I've had a good We're gonna have 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: a good hour ahead. That's all we can control. Moving 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: forward here, let's get right into it from yesterday, Urban 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: Meyer Trent Bawky sat down and had their press conference 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: before the draft next week. Of course, did you catch 37 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: much of it? What's your I read the transcripts and everything, 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: and boy, you missed the the in person. Usually it 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: would be like like a media lunch and to gather 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: and get a free meal and and and here the 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: coach and the general manager give you absolutely nothing. But 42 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: but I think the insight was pretty good on Urban's 43 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: part and Trent Bawky's part. It would have been nice 44 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: to be able to do it in a in a 45 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: personal setting as far as like it's been done in 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: the past, but obviously this is the COVID world that 47 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: we live in. But but I thought they were they 48 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: were very revealing, and I thought that urban Meyer particularly 49 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: was very revealing when he started talking about balancing the 50 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: value and the need. Uh uh. And we can get 51 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: right into that because most coaches that they want instant gratification, 52 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: no doubt, and he's always had that in college. By 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: the way, in recruiting four and five star guys, you 54 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: doesn't have to go draft and develop again. Yeah, you 55 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: don't need to worry about that. You don't need to 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: worry about contracts in college. But as a coach in college, look, 57 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: you can go and get a junior college transfer. You 58 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: can go have a great recruiting class and change the 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: dynamic of your football team instant. Well, in the NFL, 60 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to do that by balancing 61 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: the payroll. And that's the hard part. So when when 62 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: they keep using this term value, value essentially means that 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: you need to get a strong performance for the money 64 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: that you are paying this individual. So you need to 65 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: get a strong return for your dollars. And that's something 66 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: new or certainly different than the college game and the NFL. 67 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. If you're gonna be 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: a team that has great success, you have to have 69 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: a roster that gives you a lot of value. Let's 70 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: hear from Urban Meyer on this topic from yesterday in 71 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: the media conference. As a coach, I find myself always 72 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: looking at need and that's where you gotta be cautious. 73 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: You start chasing players instead of this whole the whole 74 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: idea of value is completely new to me, and that's 75 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: something that, uh, you know, I'm relying on, you know, 76 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Joe Cullen and Bebel as coordinators, and Brian Snyder who 77 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: have extensive experience in the NFL, and then obviously Trent 78 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: and his staff. So I've I'm a quick learner. I've 79 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: been working at this now for about three months and 80 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: the last I can't imagine the last three or four weeks. 81 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: You know, this has been our entire life in that room, 82 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: watching video, stacking the board. So trusting the board is key. 83 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: I'm at the point almost there that I will trust it. 84 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: But as a coach, I can see where you, uh, 85 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: we need this, we need this, and we need this, 86 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: and that's where you get yourself in trouble. So it's 87 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: been a great learning experience for me. And ask your question, nervous, 88 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm nervous, spoilt everything. I think that's Irvan Meyer yesterday. 89 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: Let's also hear from Trent Balky the other perspective this thing. 90 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: I didn't count how many times he said the word 91 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: value yesterday, but here are a few of them. I 92 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: think when you when you look at the draft, you're 93 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: looking at value. You're you're stacking the board based on 94 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: the value of a player, not necessarily on need. If 95 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: you do that, you you tend to overvalue players. And 96 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: you do that consistently, and you're not going to be 97 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: in the game long. So you know, what we try 98 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: to do is just look at the player for what 99 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: he is, stacked the board for what it is, and 100 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: and let the board speak to us on draft day 101 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: and if there's as if there's a player there at 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: a position of need and we have it valued that way, 103 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: the decision would be to go with the with the need. 104 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: So It's not like Auji Board talking to you a 105 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: little different on you know, you stacked the board like 106 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: you said. There, so and remember the right, I've never 107 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: personally played with them, but so uh either way, So 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: that's the difference, right, I mean, urbans trying to figure 109 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: out what the definition of value is in balance and 110 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: marriage and things about you. I never knew playing with 111 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: them about boards, right. Yeah. The one thing that I 112 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: think is interesting what Trent Balky talks about and you 113 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: say that, I lost count how many times that he 114 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: says the word value. We've we've had some fun around 115 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: here in the past when you have catch words like 116 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: that and you count them. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, 117 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. Yeah. But anyway, the 118 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: the one thing I think that is pretty cool, and 119 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: this might be a need exercise for somebody that is 120 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: into the mock draft type of things. Pro Football Focus 121 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: actually has a mock drafter. Have you ever seen that JP? No, 122 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: literally I have not. You go to this website and 123 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: if you put in PFF mock draft, and you can 124 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: do this while we're on the show right here, drafter. 125 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: When you go to it, you actually, okay, yes, you 126 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: choose which team you are, so you can I'm gonna 127 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: pick they. So you make your pick, okay, and then 128 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: what it does, it fills in all the other picks 129 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: and then you're back on the clock again at so 130 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna pick I woul assume Trevor Lawrence at one, 131 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: and then it populates the picks two through and then 132 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: you're back on the plock. And then you have a 133 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: value board that you can look at what the best 134 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: available candidates are and they have rankings and so value 135 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: would be something of this nature to where you're you 136 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: do the simulator and you're always picking the person that 137 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: is at the top of the players remaining on your board. 138 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: And so but it's a cool little simulator thing. And 139 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: the distracted Trevor Lawrence, okay, in this mock, you know 140 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: what will happen is that they will make all the 141 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: picks two and then you're on the clock again. And 142 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: then the safety went three picks ahead. That's unfortunate, Bateman. 143 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: The wide receiver's gone very tucker. The town a cool thing. 144 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: It's a really cool thing. And so, um what you 145 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: do then once you make all your selections, you're making 146 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: every pick that the Jaguars have, you're making two and 147 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: round one two and round two two and round four, 148 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: you got one third round pick, you got your you know, 149 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: your late round picks. You do all of them, and 150 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: then once you're done, they give you a grade on 151 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: every pick, and then they also give you an overall grade. 152 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: So it's just something fun to do. So if you're 153 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: a Jaguars fan and you want to play like Urban 154 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: Meyer and Trent Balky a little bit between now and 155 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: the draft next Thursday night, this is an awesome little 156 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: thing and an awesome little tool I think I ended 157 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: up getting. I think I did about ten drafts right now. 158 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: I would do something different every time, and I did 159 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: something different a lot of times because they would choose 160 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: some different things, and I would do it just out 161 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: of curiosity of what kind of a grade would I 162 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: get if I picked and reached for a center in 163 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: round two? You know that was rated thirty players below 164 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: the guy that was the top of the board. But anyway, 165 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: it's a cool little thing, and it's something that I 166 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: think fans of any team can have fun with and 167 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: uh and become a general manager for a couple of minutes. 168 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: I gotta say I'm about tired of mock drafts though, Yeah, 169 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: but that's like two minutes. But to complete a draft, 170 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: there's so many mocks, and they all changed after free agency. 171 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: To remember that everybody the wave of mox and then 172 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: totally agency hits, and now we're doing another wave of 173 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: mox and now there's the week of mocks and trade 174 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: mocks only, and like all these mocks everywhere, uh it 175 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: uh and that that's just the way it is. And 176 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't read, I really don't. I don't read a 177 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: lot of mock drafts. I don't I like to read 178 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: the rankings or how they rank players, how they how 179 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: people stack players, because I think in the mocks, I mean, 180 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: sometimes people do things for entertainment value, which is great, 181 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's the whole purpose. You want to 182 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: be entertained, just like with the with the PFF mock 183 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: Draft simulator. But uh, I get a little tired of 184 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: reading mock draft you know what I mean. And because 185 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: there's so many different possible outcomes and so you don't know, 186 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: especially like the seven round mocks. Who the hell knows 187 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in the seventh round. Well, if you 188 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: do the PFF simulator, a bunch of times. You might 189 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: have a clue, you'll have a better you might have 190 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: a better idea. I know my homework for the weekend. 191 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: And the nice thing is, too, is they actually have 192 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a description about every player in there, 193 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: so you can for for people that are looking to 194 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: maybe learn the draft a little bit better, this is 195 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: a a good way to do it. It's great, you're 196 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be doing it the weekend and just 197 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: just do that. Yeah, JP and Jovi doing the Funday 198 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: And when we get back, Joe's wife Lynda is gonna 199 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: be Joe coming to bed. I'm on the sixth round. 200 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: Give me, I got a few picks, were trading up. 201 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: We're trading up. A lot going on, all right, So 202 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: there your mock drafts are here. We're a week away, man, Finally, 203 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: well it's not even finally. We're still a week to go. 204 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: But well, and I think the best part is we're 205 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: a week away from what what many expect that this 206 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: franchise is gonna be the directions changing next Thursday night, 207 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: regardless of how it how it turns out, it's one 208 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: of those where it'll be before Trevor and after Trevor. 209 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: Really it could be if he turns out to be 210 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: one of the great Um, this is the moment. Well, 211 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: this is the moment, artless of what he turns out 212 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: to be. I mean, if he turns out to be 213 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: the next Hall of Fame type quarterback, it's certainly it's 214 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: it's a it's a monumentous occasion. If he turns out 215 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: to not be a Hall of Fame type quarterback and 216 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: something bad happens, we'll still look back at it and 217 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: say that was the day that could have changed the franchise. 218 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, so this is the day that the 219 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: franchise is changing next Thursday night, and it's changing with 220 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: that pick and then obviously the ensuing pis But but 221 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: it's an exciting time. Look, uh, you know, I've been 222 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: kind of a casual observer of this draft as far 223 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: as evaluating some of the talent, I haven't had as 224 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: much time this year. But the one position that I 225 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: have watched his quarterback, and make no mistake about it, 226 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence is everything is advertised everything. And uh, 227 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: I got excited about Patrick Mahomes a couple of years ago, 228 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: and I said that I thought he was the greatest 229 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: quarterback that I've ever watched film on. You did say that, 230 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: and I and and I'm willing. I'm not willing to 231 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: go to that extent with Trevor Lawrence, but I'm willing 232 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: to say that he is right there as the second 233 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:32,119 Speaker 1: greatest quarterback that I've ever watched film on. He's impressive. 234 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Right behind He's right there with Andrew Luck. You know, 235 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: because I don't go back to the John Elways and 236 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: the Marinos. I didn't watch film on them, Okay, but 237 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: watching Trevor Lawrence on film, he can do anything and everything, 238 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: and he's got a certain presence about him obviously, and 239 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: he's had great success. And so when you combine all 240 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: of the physical attributes, which is what really stood out 241 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: on film and watching Patrick Moms, when you watch Trevor Lawrence, 242 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: the physical attributes stand out, but then also just what 243 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: he's been able to accomplish at a young age in college, 244 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: leading a Clemson team to a national championship right out 245 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: of the gate. I mean, it's just impressive. Plenty more 246 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: Trevor talk ahead, we'll hear again from Urban Meyer and 247 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Trent Baukey on the potential number one overall pick a 248 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: little later. Yeah, potential, it's it's not that there's still 249 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: a chance. They got got to talk to ownership first 250 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: to see We'll hear from Urban and see what you 251 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: an ownership is saying right now. Probably why you ask 252 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: Trent Urban. If you don't draft Trevor Lawrence, you might 253 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: be the fastest person ever fired in NFL history. If 254 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: you're looking for a way to stay activet eat healthy, 255 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: you can join JAG's alumni players as they teach football 256 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: fundamentals and joined members of the Roar as they make 257 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: their favorite dairy snacks. 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A matter of fact, 328 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: we have exceptional players at certain positions, some that have 329 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: to play better. But we have a good poor You're 330 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: gonna have a great fan base. You watch what happens 331 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: to this fan base and we start doing what we're 332 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: supposed to do. Winson Dan Games. That's The Hunt episode 333 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: two tonight on Jaguars YouTube channel and Jaguars dot Com. 334 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: That's Urban Meyer, of course, and welcome back. It's Jaguars 335 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lockerman. That's gonna be 336 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: fun tonight. It's Urban. That's the first team meeting, like 337 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: it's the first meeting. It's a virtual meeting, but it's 338 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: gonna be weird, guess to be to be a head 339 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: coach and to do a virtual team meeting like that 340 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: where you're standing up in front of the room and 341 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: talking to a camera and your first interaction with your 342 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: team everyday, it's it's just different. It's just so different, 343 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: and you know, I I hope that uh in the future, 344 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: next year that you can get back to the normalcy 345 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: of having coaches and players interact. And uh, I know 346 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: that this stage of the all season program is is 347 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: only virtual and then the opportunity for in person stuff 348 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: will come up in Phase two, three or four days long. 349 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: It's not it's not a very long period of time, 350 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's what that's what coaching and 351 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: the coach player relationship is about. It's not about watching 352 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: a guy on a phone or watching a guy on 353 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: a laptop screen. I mean, that's just it's just not normal, 354 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: you know. So I if I was a player, I 355 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: would long for having some normalcy of being coached in person, 356 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: being on the field in person, not being oh hey, 357 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: you know how you've been Oh yeah, good, and you know, 358 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: and you might be at home and you got the 359 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: camera from here up and you know, you look like 360 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: your professional prepared. The next thing, you know, you know, 361 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: maybe the guys got cheetos and we're in his underwear 362 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: or something, you know, he was off the camera or something. 363 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: You know. I mean, just just it's just different. It's 364 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: just odd and just real quick a note, yes lives 365 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL p A and I know you're 366 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: probably going to do this later on, Let's do it now. 367 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: I know we we had a last week. If you 368 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: miss our show last week, and I don't know why 369 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: you would. The logs, you had a nice run there 370 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: on the Players Association and their announcements on behalf of 371 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: certain teams that they were going to skip voluntary workouts 372 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: in this offseason, and you were against the way they 373 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: did that. Well, first of all, they put the release 374 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: out and then cited safety issues with COVID, which is 375 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: totally inaccurate. The league has more safety precaution measures in 376 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: place than anywhere else player could possibly train unless he's 377 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: gonna train on his own in some cabin out in 378 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, okay, and not be around anybody. 379 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: But we all know that that's not the reality. Players 380 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: don't have the facilities that are available to them that 381 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: they would have here. Some players, some players, but JP 382 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: was very small. But to go back to the league 383 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: started the off season activities really when Jimmy Johnson came 384 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: into the National Football League in nine, which is my 385 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: rookie year. That's when everybody started doing it because Jimmy 386 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: was winning and he was doing it, so then everybody 387 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: wanted to do it. And I will say that in 388 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: my six years in New York, we never had all 389 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: season activities with my teammates. We didn't have it. We 390 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: got together for mini camp and what we did at 391 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: mini camp was not so much about practicing, but we 392 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: drank more beer than we did anything out because we 393 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: hadn't seen each other in a while in the town. 394 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: But when I came to Jacksonville and Tom Coughlin had 395 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: his program set and obviously he had it set up 396 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: to mirror a lot of what Jimmy Johnson did, it 397 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: was tremendous. And it was tremendous in so many different ways. 398 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: Number One, you're working towards the common goal. You're getting 399 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: to know your teammates, You're getting to know your coaches. 400 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: You're getting competition that develops in the weight room that 401 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: made me better, that made me physically better that I 402 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: could not do that on my own. It created a 403 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: bond between guys on the team, the guys that were 404 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: that were on the team. I mean, it was a 405 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: very special bond because we were together and we were 406 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: together a lot, and in the bond between the coaches 407 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: as well. It was it was it was all part 408 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: of a process that was formed, and it was all 409 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: in the in the whole concept of trying to improve 410 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: as a team because we knew that we were going 411 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: to be an upstart and expansion team and we had 412 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: to be at our best in every total way in 413 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: order for us to be competitive. That's all season in 414 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: that year I hold near and dear in my heart 415 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: because it was the first time that I got to 416 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: experience a team in an all season. And so what 417 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: the Union is is kind of doing in a way 418 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: is encouraging not to have that atmosphere. And if the 419 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: players don't ever get to experience that atmosphere of creating 420 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: the sense of team and creating bonds and friendships, I mean, 421 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: they're missing out. And so that's why it's just kind 422 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: of disappointing for me from the Union standpoint. And look 423 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: and I and I understand that the Union is there 424 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: to make sure that things are that are voluntary are 425 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: truly in fact voluntary, get it. But but I think 426 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: that they're they're going about it in a little bit 427 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: of a wrong fashion and that they're almost looking down 428 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: upon some of the great benefits of having the off 429 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: season together with your teammates. Because I can tell you this, 430 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: I had a great off season. Corey Mayfield, Joe Shmany, 431 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: Calvin Pritchett, Don Davy, I mean, all these guys that 432 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: we had as defensive lineman, Ernie Logan that first year, Jason, 433 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean all of us. We had a great time, 434 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: got to know guys, you know, and and that kind 435 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: of carried us through the season. And uh and I 436 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: hope that teams and players on teams that haven't decided 437 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do yet, I can remember that. That's 438 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: also a very special part of the O T A S. 439 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: That is the as a benefit and not so much 440 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: a distraction to what the all season can be. Anyway, 441 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: just wanted to I want to say that because that 442 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: was an eye opener from e JP I had, even 443 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: though even Tom Coughlin was a total pan the ass. Okay, 444 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: just put that out there. Okay, your battles are noted. 445 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: He required us to do things that were way over 446 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: the top, and he violated so many different rules and protocols. 447 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: There's no question about all that. But I appreciate him 448 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: for what he did because you know, it helped me 449 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: experience something that took me back to college and it 450 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: created a great sense of team and uh and I 451 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: hope the players in the NFL can experience that like 452 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I did. I love it. That's Jeff Lagman commentary for you. 453 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: A Deep Thoughts, Deep Thoughts with Jeff Lagaman. 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Most most of I've been talking to 530 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: the guy to my left about that we've had a 531 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: couple of dry runs. We're gonna have a couple of 532 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: dry runs again. I'm gonna control nuts and organizational nuts. 533 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: So I want to make sure that I want to 534 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: know where people are sitting. I want to know what camera, 535 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: what we're gonna be looking at on the screens, and 536 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: and Trent's been great, and this is the first time 537 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: this organization, this uh personnel of this organization and do it. 538 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: So we're gonna be on point. And so at this 539 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: point we we've had a couple of dry runs, but 540 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna go in great detail early next week about 541 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: exactly how it takes place, and so I'll feel much 542 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: better after that. That's urban Meyer discussing his first draft 543 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: room experience that will happen this coming we can welcome back. 544 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Our j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logovan and 545 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: Travel Camp presents the Jacksonville r V Stadium show April 546 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: through May second at t I a bank Field factory. 547 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: Reps will be on site within sent him special financing 548 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: and giveaways. So, uh, they got to build the room 549 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: and do all that. And they've done that, and you know, 550 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a different space than normal this year, and 551 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: the normal draft room is no longer in use at 552 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: least for now, so they've moved i think down the 553 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: hall to an additional, bigger space. You can have more 554 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: people in there and that kind of thing. So all 555 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: that's coming up this week, and it's all coming up 556 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: because the Jaguars around the clock, they will be number 557 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: one overall. Here's something when he when he starts talking 558 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: about cam and such and where things are gonna be 559 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: at and because look, the league is going to be 560 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: watching the the football world is going to be paying attention. 561 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: The football world is gonna have a camera in this 562 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: room here in Jacksonville for that first overall pick in 563 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, this is this is a big deal. 564 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: So I'm sure that uh, one of the look, if 565 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: you're drafting, you know, and you're in the twenties or 566 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: something like that, maybe you're not that concerned about it. 567 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: But look, I mean this is also another opportunity at 568 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer making a first impression, you know, with the 569 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: Jaguars obviously in tow to America, to prospective free agents, 570 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: to all of these guys that are going to be 571 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: drafted this year, because you're trying to build a little 572 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: bit of a resume, and so by making a positive 573 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: impression with everything that is shown from here is going 574 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: to help reflect well on your organization in the future. 575 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: So um, so I get it. I mean, he wants 576 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: to know exactly what it's gonna look like, what it's 577 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: gonna feel like, and and that's I think why he 578 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: said that. You know, look, I'll feel a lot more 579 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: comfortable once we do that dry run the early part 580 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: of next week and we know how things are gonna 581 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: be set up and then and then we roll. So 582 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: but a pretty cool little deal there, though, you know, 583 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a lot of attention, right yeah, oh, 584 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: no doubt about that number one overall pick for the 585 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: first time ever. And Urban was asked yesterday in that 586 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: media conference, you know, you said on the Peter King 587 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: podcast the other week they were leaning in the Trevor 588 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: Lawrence direction. He wouldn't go out and all the way 589 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: said he was gonna let the ownership make that move. 590 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: He was asked again, are you ready to make that 591 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: decision now? And what's holding you back? And here's the answer. 592 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: We are knee deep in the NFL draft process obviously, 593 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna meet with ownership tomorrow and 594 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: and uh, Trent and I are, you know, working together, 595 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: but ultimately that's the owner is gonna pull that ticket 596 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: on that one. And so we're gonna have a great 597 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: meeting tomorrow, and I imagine we'll get closer to a decision. 598 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, if you're a fly on the 599 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: wall in that meeting room logs, what would it sound 600 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: like in there? Mr con We've made our decision, we think, 601 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: but with your blessing, we're gonna draft Forrevor Lawrence. Well, yeah, right, No, 602 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, obvious, right, I don't know what else 603 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: you supposed to say. I don't know, you know, it's 604 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: a look. Uh, And I think that meetings tomorrow. I think, well, 605 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: they moved it around a couple of times and then 606 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: I think they decided that it was today to their 607 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: days mixed up that there's no windows back there. I 608 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean there are 609 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: no windows, don't know what time of day, and they 610 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: kind of lose track of what's going on. But yeah, 611 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's uh, you know, like ownership is. Uh. 612 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure is a static about the possibility of drafting 613 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: a franchise altering quarterback, because that's what truly can change 614 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: the fortune obviously of this franchise, and you have to 615 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of other things in place to make 616 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: it all work, but it it is truly a special moment. 617 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: Let's hear from Trent Balky, now Jaguars general manager, when 618 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: asked about the research behind Trevor Lawrence the Zoom interviews, 619 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: the calling of sources around Trevor to get in his 620 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: background a little bit. What did they find? Was there 621 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: anything wrong in the background of Trevor Lawrence? Well, the 622 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: easiest way to answer that is no negatives. You know, 623 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: all the research we've done. You know, you're always looking 624 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: for the stars to align when you're looking at prospects, 625 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: whether that be from a physical, mental, character back, you know, 626 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. And with with this situation, 627 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: like many others in this draft, the stars all aligned, 628 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: and that's what you're looking for. You told me for 629 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: TV that we did an interview this week as well. 630 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: It'll air next week in the UK and then on 631 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: television here on Draft Night. Yeah, it's it's about as 632 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: clean a prospect as he's seen well, and that's, uh, 633 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: that's incredibly rare if you go to quarterback prospects that 634 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: are or were incredibly clean. I mean Andrew Luck, I 635 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: mean Andrew Luck was as clean as a whistle successful, 636 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: had everything checked all the boxes, much like Trevor Lawrence. 637 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: And so, uh, no question that Trent Balky is right 638 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: and that the stars don't always align on many guys, 639 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: but they certainly were aligned with Andrew Luck, and they're 640 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: aligned with Trevor Lawrence. And there are some alignments of 641 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: with other guys, but at a different level. Because when 642 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about the first overall picking the draft and 643 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: it being a quarterback, I mean, it's just not very 644 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: often that everything aligns, and so a very rare occasion 645 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: for for and and and the best part is is 646 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: that it's if you were if you pulled every general 647 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: manager in the National Football League, every one of them, 648 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: and if you pulled all the quote unquote experts of 649 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: who is worthy of being the first overall pick. Would 650 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: anybody say something different than Trevor Lawrence? I don't think something. 651 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there might be one or two just because 652 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's the only one that I've 653 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: even heard that even has an inkling that it would 654 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: be something different. I want to say it's Chris Simms 655 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: came out and said that Zack Wilson, Zack Wilson would 656 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: be the guy. But he's the only one, and that 657 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: and that's that's amazing, that's amazing. And in fact, the 658 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars had an article on jaguars dot com that if 659 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: you looked in it and it's basically had all of 660 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: people's mocks, that's the mock draft tracker. But on right 661 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: and John wrote down who everybody had picked first overall? 662 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: Was there anybody that wasn't? I don't think so. I 663 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: don't think that's all. It's all been Trevor all the time. 664 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: And there was how many how many pet experts were 665 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: on that list? It was dozens? Yeah, I can tell 666 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: you this. I kept going, am I not scrowing the 667 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: right way? What's going on? Yeah? Right? So there's that, 668 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: and then you know, We also talked when when we 669 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: had to sit down with Balky the other day. He 670 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: has a history of moving around in drafts. By the way, 671 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: he's not scared to pull the trigger and make a 672 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: trade that we're not out of that one. He said, 673 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: never say never on the ozone podcast when they asked 674 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: about it. But really at thirty three and especially once you, 675 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: like we were talking about the other week, you get 676 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: to those later rounds. Is the value better in two? 677 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: Is it you know? Or is there a certain guy 678 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: in a in a position group in a place, a 679 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: few spots up, Hey, let's put put some picks together 680 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: and move. He did that. There was a window and 681 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: draft he said. I asked him what was the what's 682 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: the best draft day story, success, trade, moved whatever, And 683 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: the first thing that hit his mind was where he 684 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: executed three draft pick trades in like a five minute 685 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: real time window, up, down, up again, different spots and 686 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: ended up with Carlos Hide at the end of that. 687 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: Who's now of course on the Jaguars roster again. But um, 688 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: that was a lot of moving around and his first 689 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: drafty took over late because of a change in the 690 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: front office. Traded down to get Navarro bowman that worked out, 691 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: got an extra fourth round pick. The next year used 692 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: that pick to move up a few spots and get 693 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,479 Speaker 1: Kaepernick the quarterback, And those guys were a big piece 694 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: of that Super Bowl run, the first one in San Francisco, 695 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: no doubt. And I think that with the Jaguars, the 696 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: number of picks you've heard me say about, Hey, look, 697 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: if you can trade some of that current equity for 698 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: future equity, be great. Yeah. The big question mark is 699 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: is that you've got to be able to find a 700 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: willing trading partner to be able to do that. And 701 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: I think that this year's draft picks are not going 702 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: to have quite the value. For examples I stretch, I 703 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: think another way to say it besides using the word value, 704 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: but this year's draft picks probably aren't going to have 705 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: the value that they have had in past drafts, just 706 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: because this year's picks there's a lot of unknowns with 707 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: some of these players. Guys that had that opted out, 708 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: there's guys that teams didn't play, there's guys that didn't 709 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: go to Indianapolis for a medical check, and so the 710 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: team is making a lot of these selections without medicals, 711 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: without a season to evaluate, et cetera. So do these 712 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: picks this year would they would would they hold the 713 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: value to trade them away for future picks as they 714 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: have in the past. Probably not. You may have to 715 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: give more up now to get what you used to 716 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: get in the future because of that, because of the 717 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: unknowns that are involved with this year's picks or with 718 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: the information involving this year's picks. So I don't know 719 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be able to trade now. Look, can 720 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: you can you trade some of this year's equity to 721 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: maybe move up in this year's Yeah, I think for 722 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: this year's possibility. Yeah, but for but for trading a 723 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: this year pick for a future pick, I don't think 724 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: the value is going to give you as much as 725 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: it's given you in the past. You know, because in 726 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: years past, for example, you can move up around basically 727 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: seven six, two to one, three to two, four to three, etcetera, etcetera. 728 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: On down the line, my guess is is that you 729 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: may not get a full round increase from moving from 730 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: this year's draft to next year's draft. Mhmm. You see 731 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And see what you say. I think 732 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: you might. You might only get trade partners willing to 733 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: do business. In the current draft, you may not get 734 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 1: teams that are willing to give up the future equity 735 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: as willingly just because they're all anticipating that next year, Okay, 736 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: there's gonna be more normalcy, there's gonna be a combine, 737 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: there's gonna be seasons. We're gonna have the ability to 738 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,959 Speaker 1: evaluate everything, and that will make next year's picks better 739 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: because we're making determinations based on more information and less 740 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: on faith as we are this year. So it'll be 741 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: interesting to see how that plays out, though, to see 742 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: if that does in fact, is that impacted are the 743 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: value the future values and related to this year are 744 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: the impacted and how much it might not be. It 745 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: might not be at all, might might not be at all, 746 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: But it will be interesting to see none the lesson 747 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: And this draft to me, because the Jaguars have a 748 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: pick at and could move either way with that. If 749 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: there's a guy they really wanted twenty, maybe they package somethings. Maybe. 750 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: And then also because of what could happen at three, 751 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: and then what could happen at four and five and 752 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: six and seven, et cetera. The number of quarterbacks that 753 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: are gonna be at the top of the draft. I mean, 754 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: this is about as uh of an intriguing of a 755 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: draft is that has been in recent memory, right, I 756 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: mean this is I think there's gonna be a lot 757 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: of a lot of really good storylines in this draft. 758 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: What was the big quarterback here? Eighty four was the 759 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: Lway and those guys and Todd Blackledge and yeah that 760 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,240 Speaker 1: was that was Tony Easton. It was Marino U Marino, 761 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: Tony Easton, Kenny O'Brien. So that was a big, big, 762 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 1: obviously quarterback here. This this could be one, two, three, four, 763 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: and yeah, which is this the last time was it 764 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 1: where you had this number of quarterbacks at the top 765 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: of the draft and it was uh, it was like, uh, 766 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: Achille Smith and a couple other guys right at the 767 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: top of the draft. I want to say that was 768 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: and that's the last time that quarterbacks were like eating 769 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: up the top of the first round. So that means 770 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: some good players could slide down a little bit all 771 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. But yeah, I don't like to use the 772 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: term slide just because that means that you're you're saying 773 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: you're over you're overvaluing quarterbacks. There's no such thing as 774 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: overvalueing quarterbacks in this league. There's such a thing as 775 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: undervalue in a quarterback. But if you're not, if you're not, 776 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: if you if you don't understand, if you're in personnel, 777 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: and you don't understand that you have to have a 778 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: quarterback in this league to win, you're full. You can 779 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: value the wrong quarterback. That happens all the time. But 780 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: you've got you gotta be willing. You've got to be 781 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: willing to play the game, you know, because if you don't, 782 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, for example, look the Jaguars that you draft 783 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks that you were hoping we're gonna be franchise 784 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: guys here that are in the Jaguars history. Byron Leftwich, 785 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert, Blake Bortles. Nothing wrong with picking those three guys. Okay, 786 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: look you take a chance. I mean, Byron had all 787 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: the intangibles, the intelligence, I mean, you can see that now. 788 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 1: He's a great coach, wasn't able to execute as well 789 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: at a at a high level. Blaine had all the 790 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: physical actects, great on the practice field, but wasn't able 791 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: to translate in a game. And he he's improved, but 792 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: he's still not what you know, you expected to be 793 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: a franchise guy. Blake didn't have the skill set, but 794 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: had the moxie and the toughness and the mindset a 795 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, so the it's never a mistake 796 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: by picking a quarterback if you're in the National Football League. 797 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: The mistake is is realizing or not realizing that they're 798 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: not the guy that you need to have in plays 799 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: and then passing up opportunities to take somebody else. Admit 800 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: your mistake. You have to be able to do that. 801 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: Fix it because everybody's gonna miss. Look, that's the draft 802 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: you miss. But you gotta keep swinging. 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I think r v's have a 895 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 1: have a place. Absolutely, they're great. I mean, you know, 896 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: it's been a lot. Like when I was a kid, 897 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: we went to r V places and camp rounds and 898 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: all this a lot. It was cool, cool, And I 899 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: know they're they're huge down especially during the pandemic, like 900 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: people were buying RVs off the you know, they weren't 901 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: couldn't they couldn't find one. My father in law has one. 902 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: He loves it. And uh, I've done a couple of 903 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: RV trips in the past and when I'm out West 904 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: on an amazing hunting trip, it was awesome. But uh yeah, 905 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: those things can be uh truly amazing experience for something. 906 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: And I can tell you this, if you're gonna get 907 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: an r V, book your reservations well in advanced folks 908 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: for the for the parks, because the people have been 909 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 1: uh loading up the parks over the last two years. 910 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: All Right, We've got some rule changes. Wells, I know 911 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: the last week, a couple of weeks ago, we went 912 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: through the proposed rule changes. Since then, the ownership in 913 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: the NFL has voted to pass a handful of these, 914 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: including eliminating over time in the preseason. That's done. That's 915 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 1: no brighter, Thank goodness. They should have done that anyway. 916 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: For one year, they will establish a maximum number of 917 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: players in the setup zone. This is on kickoff return 918 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: team and what twenty five yards to the line of 919 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: scrimmager gonnaly be a certain amount of players to help 920 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: with on site. Basically, it makes the possibility of having 921 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: a successful onside kick, it raises the chance of it. 922 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 1: So that's UH number one and number two. They tabled 923 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: number three the rule change there so number four was 924 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: to permit the replay officially and designated members of the 925 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: officiating department to provide certain objective information to the on 926 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: field officials. No brainer there. There was some that wanted 927 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: to expand that and actually add another person into the 928 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: replay booth that would allow that person to solely be 929 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: essentially a sky judge. That was actually the Ravens pulled 930 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: that back, UH and then put their support behind this proposal, 931 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: and uh, and and I think it's good. The insurement 932 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: of enforcement of all accepted penalties committed by either team 933 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 1: during successive try attempts, extra points or two point conversions, 934 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 1: and then adding a loss of down for a second 935 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: forward pass from behind the line, and for a pass 936 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: thrown after the ball returns behind the line. There was 937 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: a Tom Brady play this year where he threw the ball, 938 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: hit a defender, bounced back, he caught it, and then 939 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 1: he threw it again. The pass and then the penalty 940 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 1: basically would have given them another opportunity instead of loss 941 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: of down. Well, I mean that's not right. He threw 942 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: two passes, which you can't do. It should be a 943 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: loss of down, and which now it is, so it's 944 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: it makes sense. And then of course the last one, 945 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:14,760 Speaker 1: which is long overdue, which is allowing more Jersey option 946 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: numbers for players the different positions, which it should have been. 947 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 1: As I said before, it was getting a little tiresome 948 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,320 Speaker 1: to not see single digits allowed by players of different positions. 949 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: It made zero sense to not allow it. Just leave 950 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 1: zero out. No, I mean, dude, the longest yard, the 951 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 1: big guy that uh, I think I broke his neck 952 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: it was turned a little differently. He was double zero, right, 953 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: somebody should be allowed let double zero? Let Jim Otto 954 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: keep Did he wear double zero? Is that guy and 955 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 1: longest yard? I don't know. Ken Burrow, by the way, 956 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: is the last NFL player to wear double zero? From 957 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville? What the range? Would you be opposed 958 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: if somebody wore zero? That's don't like zero? And I 959 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: don't know your personal preference? They started? Yeah, yeah, okay, 960 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: So were you against the single digit rule too? Yeah, Like, 961 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: there's a reason linebackers are certain numbers. There's a reason 962 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: linemen are certain numbers. There's a reason defensive backs are 963 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: certain numbers. And make a couple of exceptions if you 964 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 1: have to. But like the Chiefs had to last year. Okay, fine, 965 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: don't change the whole rule. Do you sit too much noise? 966 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: And that's terrible walking down the street? Yes, yes, Joe 967 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: Fortunato Hello, Tom Brady said that it's a dumb rule 968 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 1: because people won't know who to block. Now, aren't you 969 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: just blocking the guy with the other jersey, Tom Brady? Look, 970 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady needs to stick quarterback good at it's pretty 971 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 1: good at it. You know who to block because you 972 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: know which numbers they were. You study film. Okay, I 973 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 1: know that John wears number one. Joe might wear number 974 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 1: fifty something, so I know I got a block number 975 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: one or number fifty. It's not that hard to figure out. 976 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: And it's not like you change Oh my gosh, he's 977 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: wearing a number one, so I can't block him. No, 978 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,760 Speaker 1: it's where he's lined up at. You could take the numbers. Seriously, 979 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: you could take the numbers off of everybody on defense 980 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. We'll know who to block as long as 981 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,240 Speaker 1: they can identify one guy. Okay, the big tall dude 982 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: with the blonde hair, he's the mic. They can all 983 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: block after that. Okay, once they set the mic, they know. 984 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 1: Why don't they just change all the offensive lineman numbers 985 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 1: to let them wear whatever they want. They're not doing that. Well, 986 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: that's different because it's a little different. Oh, you can't 987 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: is an eligible number, JP. That's why they didn't expand 988 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: single digits. Don't don't overcomplicate it. Come on, it's really simple, JP. 989 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,800 Speaker 1: It's really not that hard. And they're gonna tonning a 990 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: point of emphasis this year, by the way, which it's 991 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 1: always been a point of emphasis. They just said they 992 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 1: got a little lax last year and they didn't call 993 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: it as frequently as they should have. Should always have 994 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: an emphasis always, Okay, And when we're not talking about celebration, 995 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: we're not talking about a guy, you know, doing a 996 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: dance in the end zone because he scores. We're talking 997 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 1: about somebody who hits a guy stands over the top 998 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: of him and points at him, or froze spikes the 999 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: ball in his face or something of that nature. That's 1000 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: a little different. M I did like the playoff one though, 1001 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: where the guy did the victory signed to Tyreek Hill 1002 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 1: after the final play of the game. It was the 1003 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: rookie safety for the Bucks because he did it to 1004 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: his dad played in the NFL for a long time. 1005 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: What is his name? I forget, but yeah, no it was. 1006 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 1: It happened to him. Tyreek did it to him, the 1007 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: peace sign stuff like him. Now he did it at 1008 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: the end of the what Super Bowl? I guess are 1009 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 1: you giving us the sign Alright, we'll wrap it up, 1010 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: he says, We'll wrap up with some sad news tonight. 1011 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,959 Speaker 1: By the way, former Jaguars linebacker Geno Hayes, he played 1012 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: here in and fourteen, is now in hospice care. He's 1013 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: been battling liver disease for a couple of years. He's 1014 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: thirty three years old. He's in hospice care at his 1015 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 1: parents home in Georgia, and he's looking for a liver transplant. 1016 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: Now he's on the Mayo List. Our best wishes to Gino. 1017 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: Hopefully he gets it. Uh, he didn't just play for 1018 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. He also played for the Bears and the Bucks. 1019 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: Was a draft pick, I believe of the Bucks out 1020 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 1: of Florida States. So I hope, I hope he gets 1021 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: what he needs. Yeah, no doubt, And he was Those 1022 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: were some lean years here in Jacksonville. Of course the 1023 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,439 Speaker 1: start of the rebuild, that what they thought was gonna 1024 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: be the rebuild. But he was the third leading tackler 1025 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: in rebuild rebuilding jp S still to this day. But 1026 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 1: our best wishes to Geno Hayes and his family for 1027 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: a full recovery. Hopefully at some point soon. Let's get 1028 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 1: that man, Oliver, And thank you folks for listening tonight. 1029 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: We've got a week to go. Loge peace. We're out 1030 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: of here. Thanks to Brent Reaver, thanks to Joe Fortunado, 1031 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: our entire crew for Jeff Locker, but I'm j P. Shadrick. 1032 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.