Speaker 1: On this episode of This League, we talk about Andre
Speaker 1: Drummond finally heading to the Lakers yuck, the death of rebounding,
Speaker 1: hit some quick news stories.
Speaker 2: The bubble up during the weekend.
Speaker 1: It is a slow week in the NBA, but we're
Speaker 1: going to hit some stories that have been sort of
Speaker 1: bubbling around along with some listener dms. And we also
Speaker 1: had a special guest interview with Katie Austin, who's a
Speaker 1: fitness host massive platform on TikTok on YouTube.
Speaker 2: All that she's.
Speaker 1: Also the daughter of NBA superagent Jeff Austin, who represents
Speaker 1: Steff No Big Deal Yannis formerly Chris Paul, Wesley Matthews.
Speaker 2: Great Chat, Must listen. Al Horford. Let's talk about him.
Speaker 1: Former Celtic turn sixer, turncoat Al Horford. Very sad and
Speaker 1: tumultuous departure from Philly.
Speaker 2: It was ugly when he left.
Speaker 1: There was some hate between him and the Philly fans.
Speaker 1: Not a shocker coming from someone who is hated by
Speaker 1: Philly fans. But I don't know if there was a
Speaker 1: weirder fit than Al Horford being traded to the Thunder
Speaker 1: One because Horford has a huge contract, and two because
Speaker 1: he's thirty four in the Oklahoma City Thunder in the
Speaker 1: middle of a youth movement.
Speaker 2: I just forgot he even existed.
Speaker 1: Literally, like did not remember who he played for, whether
Speaker 1: he was still playing. I knew he was still getting paid.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking to myself, huh, where is he?
Speaker 2: He could fit somewhere.
Speaker 1: He has been one of the best leaders in the league.
Speaker 1: At one point, he was probably one of the best
Speaker 1: stretch fives in the league, would you agree, Marty?
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, he was.
Speaker 1: Considered up there. He was highly coveted when he left
Speaker 1: for Philly. It was there was a few teams that
Speaker 1: were willing to pay him the max, I would say, But,
Speaker 1: like I said, there's a youth movement happening in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1: They have thirty four draft picks in the next seven years.
Speaker 1: Nuts thirty four, I forget, like seventeen first rounders in
Speaker 1: the next seven years. And they've got a bunch of
Speaker 1: young guns that need to be in the oven. And
Speaker 1: there's only so much only so much space in the oven.
Speaker 1: You can only have a little cookie sheet in there.
Speaker 1: Only so many cookies can fit in the oven at
Speaker 1: one time. And we know Al Horford is fully baked.
Speaker 1: He is a fully baked cookie. He is a crumbly
Speaker 1: ass cookie, and we've got dough sitting there on the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City thunder roster and they need to be inside
Speaker 1: that oven. So they shipped out another crumbly ass cookie,
Speaker 1: George Hill. He's in Philly now and they're now benching.
Speaker 1: The latest news is they have now decided and announced.
Speaker 1: I don't know that they needed to announce this to
Speaker 1: the world, maybe because everyone would be wondering why the
Speaker 1: crumbly cookie is sitting at the end of the bench.
Speaker 1: But they said, Al Horford is now sitting out the
Speaker 1: rest of the season. We are putting him on ice.
Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. They know, I mean give it
Speaker 1: to okay. See, they know exactly what they want.
Speaker 2: A guy who's getting paid fifty million just ridiculous, something dumb.
Speaker 1: It's something really really amounts of money, and they're like,
Speaker 1: we don't care.
Speaker 2: We traded you, We traded for.
Speaker 1: You to get more picks, and now what we need
Speaker 1: is to build for the future. I think that they
Speaker 1: have been probably one of the most ruthless teams in
Speaker 1: the NBA in terms of getting rid of guys that
Speaker 1: they just have no use for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know exactly what all this does.
Speaker 4: You know, he's still in the books for two seasons
Speaker 4: after this, and I don't think them sitting him out
Speaker 4: is going to make anyone else more likely to try
Speaker 4: to come him and swoop him. I mean, they made
Speaker 4: that trade to get picks, and that's what they got,
Speaker 4: and they have.
Speaker 3: To eat the contract a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's interesting though, is that the world started clapping at
Speaker 1: Al Horford's sister on Twitter and she was like, listen,
Speaker 1: this is Al Horford's decision. He was the one who
Speaker 1: said he was willing to let these young guys develop.
Speaker 1: It's not the team, it's not Sam Presty, it's Al.
Speaker 1: Al is such a great leader that he is willing to.
Speaker 2: Do nothing and make millions and millions of dollars. Me too,
Speaker 2: I would like to do that. I would like to
Speaker 2: be the kind of leader.
Speaker 1: That can make stupid, doodoo, dumb money and not have
Speaker 1: to compete and put any more miles on my broken legs.
Speaker 2: But Greenee, here's where the interesting conversation comes.
Speaker 1: Greenee, who is one of our very own barstool employees
Speaker 1: and Celtic's ball washer.
Speaker 2: He just he's just riding Danny Angel's dick into the sunset.
Speaker 1: He said to Al Horford's sister, he's basically our beat reporter.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Greedy, love Greed, No shade really to Greedy.
Speaker 2: That was just for the comic value, Honestly. He tweeted
Speaker 2: at her and said, but what if.
Speaker 1: We miss Al and we Celtics want him back and
Speaker 1: think his beautiful eyes could help. We'd love to see
Speaker 1: him back in Boston. And she said, we would love
Speaker 1: to see him back in Boston.
Speaker 2: We the Royal We meaning Al Horford wants.
Speaker 1: To go back to Boston too. If you're his sister,
Speaker 1: this is the the some sort of law of association here.
Speaker 1: She knows where he wants to be. She knows what
Speaker 1: the status is. I can promise you she's had that
Speaker 1: conversation with her brother, certainly, and if he did not
Speaker 1: want to go back to Boston, she would not say
Speaker 1: whether he wanted to be there.
Speaker 2: What do you think about.
Speaker 1: The potential of that band getting back together again?
Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't think it's there.
Speaker 4: As long as he's making twenty three million dollars for
Speaker 4: the next two seasons, I think I think they'd rather
Speaker 4: have the two Jays.
Speaker 2: So here's what I think could be a possibility. Though.
Speaker 1: Now we've got a situation where we're seeing these older
Speaker 1: overpaid we'll call it bunny ER's Superstars Drummond, Blake, Griffin,
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldridge.
Speaker 2: Get bought out. Okayse he has him on the hook.
Speaker 1: Anyway, they said that they are going to pursue other
Speaker 1: options for Horford in the off season. That other option
Speaker 1: could mean a buyout, it could mean a young player.
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think.
Speaker 4: I mean, if they were able to do that and
Speaker 4: Horford was able to get back on the Celtics for
Speaker 4: a very minimum for like a Drummond level price what
Speaker 4: he's getting now dollars, if they could do that, sure, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I think that team could use all of
Speaker 4: the veteran leadership and like someone that could like steer
Speaker 4: this ship a little more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it'd be I think it'd be great
Speaker 3: if they could pull it off.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Otherwise, Al Horford is going to be the most expensive
Speaker 1: Eudonnis Haslam we've ever seen.
Speaker 2: He's literally DMPs up there just clapping for Shake.
Speaker 1: Gildris Alexander just one of the best development players in
Speaker 1: the league. This is what Horford had to say about
Speaker 1: what could have potentially have been a very awkward situation
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma City, which he has made unawkward, we'll call it.
Speaker 2: When I arrived, I understood the direction of the.
Speaker 1: Team, We had a great individual plan in place for me,
Speaker 1: and I feel like as.
Speaker 2: A result, I played really great basketball for the Thunder.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I know what it's like to
Speaker 1: be young and an aspiring player at this point in
Speaker 1: the season. I understand how important meaningful minutes is for
Speaker 1: their careers and their development. I also understand how important
Speaker 1: it is for the organization to give them that opportunity
Speaker 1: aka the cookie in the oven analogy. I am looking
Speaker 1: forward to supporting the guys who supported me, watching them
Speaker 1: continue to play the right way and play together as
Speaker 1: we have throughout the season, while still being around the
Speaker 1: team and continuing my training.
Speaker 2: How do you not still love al Horford.
Speaker 1: He's a top five leader in the NBA top five
Speaker 1: And yes, as you said, I like the idea of
Speaker 1: Horford going back to Boston. I think one you finally
Speaker 1: have someone to hold these young guns accountable. Jalen and Jason.
Speaker 1: They're not leaders, They're twenty three and twenty four. What
Speaker 1: do I fucking know about leadership?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Just all they have is a couple of parables and
Speaker 1: some Tony Robbins quotes and some Eric Thomas.
Speaker 2: They have no life experience to draw from. One of
Speaker 2: the oldest players on the team's fucking market smart.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the one. Certainly, Brad Stevens is
Speaker 1: not the one. I would not allow him to leave
Speaker 1: me anywhere.
Speaker 2: This guy, everything he says is basically at like a
Speaker 2: half a decibowl. I can't follow that.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Ted Lasso as my fucking head coach
Speaker 1: than Brad Stevens.
Speaker 3: I tell you what, wouldn't we all?
Speaker 2: Wouldn't we all?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Great series? So yeah I would.
Speaker 1: I think if you could get Al Horford for the cheap,
Speaker 1: that could be quite the intriguing prospect, not only from
Speaker 1: an interior defense level, spreading the floor with a big
Speaker 1: man that can shoot just like Danny Ainge says that
Speaker 1: he wants, and a man who can beautifully hold these
Speaker 1: young guns accountable.
Speaker 2: So I like that, but we'll have to see. Let's
Speaker 2: move on another piece of news. Internet is mad shocking.
Speaker 1: They're mad somehow at KD because the Nets got James
Speaker 1: Harden and Blake Griffin and LaMarcus Aldridge.
Speaker 2: And according to them.
Speaker 1: Those players going to the Nets is because Katie is bitch.
Speaker 2: That's basically what they're saying online right now.
Speaker 1: They are incensed because they say, how could you possibly
Speaker 1: go on record and say you're one of the greatest
Speaker 1: basketball players right now on the planet.
Speaker 2: Which he is. Katie would say he's number one.
Speaker 1: How could you say that and then need all of
Speaker 1: these former All Stars on your team? How how could
Speaker 1: you be such a bitch to want to play team basketball?
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: They not only are they saying and discrediting his past rings,
Speaker 1: they are now trying to discredit future rings as well.
Speaker 1: They're devaluing him. And Katie is having zero of that,
Speaker 1: none of that. He is searching his name on Twitter,
Speaker 1: which we know these mentions, He's got hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 3: So he's he does this.
Speaker 1: He has said I come to Twitter for this reason alone,
Speaker 1: to fight, and he's googling his name on Twitter and
Speaker 1: going deep into his mentions and clapping back at guys
Speaker 1: who are irrelevant with like eleven followers, giving them exactly
Speaker 1: what they want, which is attention. Katie just spitting facts
Speaker 1: and have you seen the recent exchange.
Speaker 3: I did see it, but I didn't go all the
Speaker 3: way through it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's how it goes down.
Speaker 1: Here's how it starts. Some guy with the screen names.
Speaker 1: Do we use screen names or is it handles?
Speaker 3: Handle?
Speaker 2: But I like screen name? Remember screen name?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Big Poseidon tweeted out right after the Audrey's news broke,
Speaker 1: literally just attributing every piece of good news that the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets have to why Katie sucks, and he says,
Speaker 1: this is why I.
Speaker 2: Don't watch the NBA no more.
Speaker 1: The Warriors ruined it, now the Nets make it worse.
Speaker 1: And they both have one common denominator, this fuck Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: I mean. And KD, which is wild, responds immediately pretty much.
Speaker 2: And says, I see you took all of this personally.
Speaker 1: Lmao great clappack, and Poseidon responds back with lmao, you
Speaker 1: know I did. Yo ass better not lose or I'm
Speaker 1: on your top. It may be noted that top could
Speaker 1: mean many things. So KD responds, pause that my guy.
Speaker 3: Pause, okay, KT, nice one.
Speaker 1: He pause, Oh man, I just say KD is just
Speaker 1: like all of us, very easily triggered about certain things
Speaker 1: and willing to come at anyone who hits those triggers,
Speaker 1: no matter how many followers that they have. So another
Speaker 1: commenter comes back at Katie in the same ass thread
Speaker 1: and he goes, I see you can't really lead a
Speaker 1: team on your own.
Speaker 2: First up, the.
Speaker 1: Warriors may not have won those other two rings without
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, and so Kevin Durant could be seen as
Speaker 1: an integral part of those rings.
Speaker 2: Akaa leader Okay, I.
Speaker 3: Mean he won two finals MVPs.
Speaker 1: One two finals MVPs, which they don't give out easily,
Speaker 1: asked Steph Curray Shade, so KD Katie had a perfect response,
Speaker 1: and he says, I'll never be able to do anything
Speaker 1: that I really want to do on Earth or Saturn
Speaker 1: or Mars. He didn't say that part. He didn't say
Speaker 1: on Saturdn or Mars. He said, I will never be
Speaker 1: able to do anything that I want to do on
Speaker 1: Earth by myself. If you think about it, the longer
Speaker 1: that you think about it, the more deep it sounds.
Speaker 1: I think maybe this the word Earth makes it sound deep.
Speaker 1: Sounds like he's been hanging out with Kyrie a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably just burning.
Speaker 1: Some sage talking about their plans on Earth and how
Speaker 1: they can do anything together and synergy just dropping. I
Speaker 1: know you hate Kyrie dropping nuggets like a Greek philosopher,
Speaker 1: but making me feel better about myself when I get
Speaker 1: mad about things. When people say Tristan knows nothing about basketball,
Speaker 1: that triggers me.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I will respond to that, how
Speaker 2: dare you?
Speaker 1: I probably have forgotten more about basketball than these motherfucker's
Speaker 1: on Twitter know about basketball.
Speaker 2: So okay. So Katie being human just like the rest
Speaker 2: of us is warming to my particular soul.
Speaker 1: So as much as I love seeing Katie on the court,
Speaker 1: which I think that there are things that are really
Speaker 1: wrong with Katie right now. From a health standpoint on,
Speaker 1: I don't think he sits out for a month and
Speaker 1: change and probably more unless something's really really bad. I
Speaker 1: don't think a strain hamstring keeps kd from playing hoop
Speaker 1: after he hasn't played.
Speaker 2: In two years, so I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1: But when he is out and not playing, he is
Speaker 1: very active on social media, which means more exchanges like this,
Speaker 1: which means more segments for us on this league. So
Speaker 1: all right, Next news Lonzo ball. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on. I don't know what's going on. There's conflicting
Speaker 1: news stories everywhere. Does he want to be in New
Speaker 1: Orleans or not?
Speaker 4: Smarty, I don't think he does know, and I definitely
Speaker 4: don't think his father does that. Well, came straight out
Speaker 4: and said, we don't want to be in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: It's very hard to tell one person from another because
Speaker 1: his father and him are certainly different. But it's just
Speaker 1: the tea leaves are scattered to the winds.
Speaker 2: I can't read them. This is what's happening as we
Speaker 2: know it.
Speaker 1: Now. The latest news is this. One NBA agent went
Speaker 1: on the record. I hope it was his agent that
Speaker 1: had been amazing. So one NBA agent said this about Lonzo.
Speaker 1: Lonzo enjoys playing for the Pelicans, but is not a
Speaker 1: fan of New Orleans.
Speaker 2: I like New Orleans.
Speaker 3: New Orleans is great.
Speaker 4: It's is, but I understand if you come from that
Speaker 4: NBA culture, it may not be the city for you.
Speaker 1: And he is from LA and let's be real, New
Speaker 1: Orleans is not a basketball town.
Speaker 2: It is a football town. You are the little fish
Speaker 2: in town.
Speaker 1: So the agent says, however, he really wants to end
Speaker 1: up with the Knicks or the Bulls. That has been
Speaker 1: a dream of his. Is likely he will try to
Speaker 1: leave in the off seat.
Speaker 2: Okay, I get.
Speaker 3: That restricted free agent, restricted.
Speaker 2: Free agent wants to leave.
Speaker 1: Cool, But the VP of Basketball Operations David Griffin said
Speaker 1: right after the trade deadline that the reason that they
Speaker 1: didn't trade him was.
Speaker 2: Because Lonzo Baal wants to be there.
Speaker 1: He said, Lonzo Ball has said he loves his teammates,
Speaker 1: and he has made it very clear personally one on
Speaker 1: one to me, David Griffin.
Speaker 2: He wants to be here in New Orleans. He loves
Speaker 2: it here.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, those two things cannot exist at the same time.
Speaker 1: Cannot Lonzo Ball's dad says this, like you said, he
Speaker 1: does not want to be in New Orleans, and he
Speaker 1: should not be in New Orleans. And he's not being
Speaker 1: used properly in New Orleans. No, no, no, this is
Speaker 1: what he says. No, no, no, he cannot stay in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Come on, man, come on listen. Lonzo's always
Speaker 1: been a playmaker. This is how I think he sounds.
Speaker 6: Why are you trying to change him sorry into a
Speaker 6: defense it's a specialists and stays in the corner shooting threes,
Speaker 6: and you're trying to change Zion and brandon Ingram all
Speaker 6: throughout their careers, they've.
Speaker 1: Never been playmakers, pauls Zion hasn't had much of a career, LeVar.
Speaker 2: You don't know what he has done and what he
Speaker 2: has not done. They are scorers. Now you want to
Speaker 2: put the ball in their hands and make them playmakers. Yo,
Speaker 2: go score the ball and do what you do.
Speaker 1: And guess what, They're going to have a hard time
Speaker 1: trying to win every game if the playmaker ain't making
Speaker 1: the right place.
Speaker 2: So he is mad that Lonzo's being used in a
Speaker 2: way that.
Speaker 1: We'll call him limits what he's allowed to do on
Speaker 1: the court.
Speaker 2: Would you call that fair?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's kind of like a three and
Speaker 4: D guard that can slash sometimes, but yeah, isn't the
Speaker 4: primary ball handler, so he doesn't always get those opportunities.
Speaker 2: And he doesn't get to make decisions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can't be a Lamello highlight machine when you don't
Speaker 1: got the ball in your hand. Primarily when you're there
Speaker 1: just waiting, you're literally you're just in a shooting stance
Speaker 1: waiting to get the ball kicked out to you.
Speaker 2: When they call on brandon Ingram.
Speaker 1: Lonzo is reportedly three and D specialists, now asking twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars a year in.
Speaker 2: The off season.
Speaker 1: ESPN is predicting that he'll make in the region in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood of eighteen. Lonzo Good Kid has been very diplomatic.
Speaker 1: He said, I love playing with those guys.
Speaker 2: In New Orleans. I'm also really cool with them off
Speaker 2: the floor as well. We're all young.
Speaker 1: I think we can do some big things, especially in
Speaker 1: the future coming up. Hmmm, it's hard to say what's happening.
Speaker 2: I just don't know.
Speaker 1: I think what Lonzo is doing is good, old fashioned,
Speaker 1: playing both sides.
Speaker 2: Of the middle. I think he is open to other offers.
Speaker 1: But also open to staying in New Orleans, basically telling
Speaker 1: off record to folks like Chicago and New York.
Speaker 2: I'm very interested in.
Speaker 1: Your franchise, while still saying all the right things to
Speaker 1: David Griffin so that they don't discard him and he's
Speaker 1: not in no man's land if both of those situations
Speaker 1: don't work out.
Speaker 2: But I get it. I see why New Orleans is not.
Speaker 1: Like you said, as enticing as a market as New
Speaker 1: York Chicago.
Speaker 2: It's not easy to build a brand in New Orleans.
Speaker 3: It's just a ball player as a basketball.
Speaker 1: Player, It's not I don't know if it's like an
Speaker 1: easy place to build a brand period. And the Pelicans
Speaker 1: are have a terrible name, and I think that actually
Speaker 1: degrades the brand as well. But Damian Lillard has shown
Speaker 1: that it's not impossible with his Hulu has Live Sports shit.
Speaker 1: He was on State Farm, he's planned for Portland, and
Speaker 1: he's transcended.
Speaker 2: He is what we would call a household name.
Speaker 1: So does he want to be a brand in a
Speaker 1: place in like New Orleans or does he think he
Speaker 1: can do more in a place like New York or Chicago?
Speaker 2: Great questions. I don't know the answer.
Speaker 1: But it also could be, like LeVar said, the way
Speaker 1: that he's being used. Does he want to be used
Speaker 1: the best way that the Pels think that he can
Speaker 1: be successful for their team? Or does he want to
Speaker 1: be used in the best way that highlights all of
Speaker 1: his his skills and makes him more highlightable highlightable on?
Speaker 2: Is that is that a term high lightable? It could
Speaker 2: be hard to say. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very interesting to see what happens in
Speaker 1: the offseason. Because I know Leon Rose very high on
Speaker 1: Lonzo ball twenty million.
Speaker 2: I don't know they have a Manuel quickly they have
Speaker 2: Derek Rose. Mmm. Tough, tough to say. Maybe sign in trade.
Speaker 1: Maybe a sign in trade so that they can get
Speaker 1: someone in exchange, because Lonzo walking for nothing makes David
Speaker 1: Griffin look like a fucking idiot this league.
Speaker 2: You know who got paid in full?
Speaker 1: Fucking Andre Drummer got paid in full. Oh, yes, a
Speaker 1: lot of money. A lot of money that boycott. He
Speaker 1: is one of the most overpaid players in recent memory.
Speaker 1: That twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, those two years, guys just
Speaker 1: got an absurd, ungodly amount of money that they did
Speaker 1: not deserve.
Speaker 2: Listen, I want everybody get their money. Whatever the world
Speaker 2: is willing to pay you, get it all, get it all.
Speaker 1: Oh certainly, but that does not preclude me from evaluating
Speaker 1: you based on how much you get paid. And I
Speaker 1: don't think that value matches up with the amount that
Speaker 1: he has gotten paid.
Speaker 2: But God bless him. So the news of the weekend,
Speaker 2: Andre Drummond took a buy out from the Cleveland Cavaliers
Speaker 2: and was the belle of the ball. Where would he
Speaker 2: sign he's getting closer and closer.
Speaker 1: To making his decision, like Lebron James' press conference style.
Speaker 1: Will he go to the Boston Celtics, He is getting closer.
Speaker 2: Will he go to the Miami Heat? Will he go
Speaker 2: to the Nets? Which made no sense?
Speaker 1: Nope, he went where everybody had been talking about him
Speaker 1: going pretty much all year LA Lakers.
Speaker 2: Interesting that Dan Gilbert let that happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean we all kind of saw the
Speaker 4: riding on the wall that it was going to be
Speaker 4: to the Lakers. And his contract is in the amount
Speaker 4: of seven hundred and ninety four and thirty six that
Speaker 4: he gave back in his buyout with the Calves. It's
Speaker 4: a very friendly signing that will still allow the Lakers
Speaker 4: to remain under the cap and sign a fifteenth player.
Speaker 2: Yikes.
Speaker 1: Great for them, Terrible for the rest of the week,
Speaker 1: Just terrible, just sickening.
Speaker 2: But oh, how the mighty have fallen.
Speaker 1: Andre Drummond is just one of many, one of many
Speaker 1: players that is at the end of his contract five years,
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven million dollars that he signed for.
Speaker 2: Just let that sink in.
Speaker 1: A guy who was discarded by the Detroit Pistons and
Speaker 1: then discarded by the Cleveland Cavaliers, two teams that you
Speaker 1: would think would want to hang on to a guy
Speaker 1: like that, and they said, no, we'd rather have Jared Allen.
Speaker 1: We'd rather have anyone else on the Detroit Pistons. But
Speaker 1: it's crazy because he is the best rebounder in the
Speaker 1: NBA right now.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, easy, the best And I.
Speaker 1: Didn't know this until we were doing some research. He
Speaker 1: is one of the best rebounders in the history of
Speaker 1: the game. In his last three years, this is an
Speaker 1: interesting step. He's averaged fifteen or more rebounds a game
Speaker 1: and that is more fifteen rebounds of game seasons than
Speaker 1: the entire NBA combined in the last two decades.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe that monster. I mean fifteens. That's a
Speaker 4: shit to a board, a.
Speaker 2: Shit ton of consistent wards.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So why did he get traded by one of the
Speaker 1: worst teams in basketball and then get bought out by
Speaker 1: another terrible team.
Speaker 2: There's a new article and that's detailing it.
Speaker 3: Why this guy.
Speaker 1: Chris Herring did a deep dive called great Great Headline.
Speaker 1: I am like a sucker for headlines. The headline is
Speaker 1: bored to death. Welcome to the NBA, where rebounders have
Speaker 1: little value.
Speaker 2: Great fucking article, ty, I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In it, he argued the big man of yesterday and
Speaker 1: truly a thing of the past.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, he argued that it's the death of rebounding.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm quite there, but it was.
Speaker 4: It was very interesting what he.
Speaker 3: Have to say.
Speaker 2: Where do you stand on rebounding?
Speaker 4: I mean, I still think a guy that can go
Speaker 4: up and get you twelve thirteen a game has value.
Speaker 4: But not if he clanks up the court and just
Speaker 4: shrinks it and can't do anything. If that's your only
Speaker 4: thing you can do, then yeah, we have problems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I agree. Look at the waiver wire right now.
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldridge, Gorgie Jang, Blake, Griffin, Boogee Cousins, Marquise Chris,
Speaker 1: guys like Hassan Whiteside as well an elite rebounder, defensive specialist,
Speaker 1: block monster getting zero minutes and Sacramento rumored to be waived.
Speaker 2: Just those are the guys.
Speaker 1: They are the dinosaurs in terms of the type of
Speaker 1: game that they've had. The Marcus Aldiers is a little
Speaker 1: bit different, a little bit, and Blake Griffin to a
Speaker 1: degree as well, But those guys were big men that
Speaker 1: were there to be the defensive specialist and also grab boards.
Speaker 4: I do think Drummond is much better than all of
Speaker 4: those guys though to rebounding, to be fair at rebounding,
Speaker 4: I think it's.
Speaker 2: A you think as a whole.
Speaker 1: Hassan Whiteside is not that different statistically than Andre Drummonds.
Speaker 4: I know, statistically, but if you watch him, Rummon's a
Speaker 4: better defender. Like Hassan will get some blocks, but like
Speaker 4: he he gets.
Speaker 1: The thing is they both decide when and where and
Speaker 1: how they want to share and spread their effort.
Speaker 2: They are not always consistently giving you the.
Speaker 1: Effort that you want, which is why I think him
Speaker 1: going to the Lakers is a huge deal.
Speaker 2: But why is this happening?
Speaker 1: Why are big men being thrown overboard just about everywhere?
Speaker 1: Why did Danny Ainge feel like his starting center Daniel
Speaker 1: Tice was the expendable piece in the salary dump?
Speaker 2: So the answer is that the game has changed.
Speaker 1: Teams are starting to catch up, and we are now
Speaker 1: seeing that the game has evolved and has taken time
Speaker 1: for NBA gms to essentially get on board with that.
Speaker 2: Philosophy.
Speaker 1: They were paying guys that they should not have been
Speaker 1: paying for things that were not currently matching up value.
Speaker 1: Wise said that it's not like NBA rebounding doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's just that you have to also do other things
Speaker 1: at that same exact time as well in order to
Speaker 1: be valuable. You cannot make one hundred and twenty seven
Speaker 1: million dollars in only rebound and defend.
Speaker 2: Sorry you, that's just not.
Speaker 1: Enough to give you staying power the league as we
Speaker 1: know now, don't I don't understand. The question is why
Speaker 1: do people not want to get on board with scoring
Speaker 1: being the most important thing in the NBA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what that is though.
Speaker 4: It's what you kind of see in baseball where people
Speaker 4: just hang on to just the I don't want to
Speaker 4: say boring, but just hang on to old fundamental aspects
Speaker 4: of the game that they don't like seeing going away
Speaker 4: for some reason.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think it's driven in like what we learn in
Speaker 4: youth sports and shit, and it really doesn't play into
Speaker 4: modern athletics.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people on the internet that
Speaker 1: get very mad at me because I value my we'll
Speaker 1: call it talent evaluation.
Speaker 2: On players overweight scoring. But that's the NBA.
Speaker 1: What we there.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 1: The NBA is overweighting scoring, So I am going to
Speaker 1: overweight scoring as well. The league value scoring over everything else.
Speaker 1: That's the cold hard facts. No matter what your position is,
Speaker 1: you have to score that. You can't be a center
Speaker 1: that can't score anymore. Andre Drummond has an atrocious jump shot.
Speaker 1: That's a problem his thing. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: he does with his arms. I don't even know what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: Rebounds defense do not matter as much, especially when other
Speaker 2: positions need to rebound. Because here's here's how we break
Speaker 2: it down.
Speaker 1: If the three pointer is king and you're shooting from
Speaker 1: the logo and it doesn't go in. Anyone who understands physics,
Speaker 1: I think it's physics. Understand understand I think so angles.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Is it triggered.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If it's triggered on math angles, it's physics.
Speaker 1: The ball hits the rim at a certain face, it
Speaker 1: is physics, force and momentum power whatever.
Speaker 2: We'll just throw out some buzzwords.
Speaker 1: And the way that the all comes off the rim
Speaker 1: is going to rebound further away from the basket then
Speaker 1: Andre Drummond can go and get it. It's going to
Speaker 1: probably go past back out to the three point line,
Speaker 1: where other guards and forwards who are on the wing
Speaker 1: anyway are in a position to get that rebound. So therefore,
Speaker 1: fifteen boards for Andre Drummond is even more spectacular right now,
Speaker 1: but not as important because how important the three point
Speaker 1: line is?
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: It does?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that's how you get Luca averaging nine rebounds
Speaker 1: a game.
Speaker 2: That's fucking absurd.
Speaker 1: So what you really need in the NBA are forwards
Speaker 1: and guards who can rebound, not so much centers who
Speaker 1: can rebound because they need to be away from the
Speaker 1: paint anyway. They need to be allowed to give Damian
Speaker 1: Lillard the space that he can and needs to go
Speaker 1: to the hole. So David Cowan's a former legendary rebounder,
Speaker 1: told SI in this article, it used to be that
Speaker 1: the lane was crowded, where there'd be a free for
Speaker 1: all to grab a board. Now you look up and
Speaker 1: only guys you're contending for a rebound with are your teammates.
Speaker 1: Guys are just getting back. Like the Stan van Gundy style,
Speaker 1: you see the ball not going the hoop.
Speaker 2: You just run the other direction. Just don't even try.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I agree with the article, but we
Speaker 2: can't just.
Speaker 1: Act like Andre Drummond is discardible only because he's just
Speaker 1: a rebounder. I think it's really because he makes so
Speaker 1: much damn money.
Speaker 4: Just oh well yeah yeah yeah, and he's been on
Speaker 4: teams that are rebuilding. I mean that's the reason he's
Speaker 4: been yeah, thrown the way.
Speaker 1: So Hassan Whiteside went from four years ninety eight million
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. He went from making twenty seven million
Speaker 1: dollars last year to this year making two million dollars
Speaker 1: in Sacramento, not being able to get any playing time whatsoever.
Speaker 1: There are now rumblings that he might get bought out
Speaker 1: this year. So that's the reason why is like this
Speaker 1: is a very high like this is a highly needed skill,
Speaker 1: just not a highly paid skill. Right, you're now a
Speaker 1: rotation guy. If you can't score Hassan Whiteside, which you can't,
Speaker 1: we just have no use for you.
Speaker 2: And LaMarcus Aldridge him too. He signed a two year,
Speaker 2: fifty million dollar contract with the Spurs.
Speaker 1: Uh in twenty nineteen, which really would not have ever
Speaker 1: been paid to anyone else on any other team except
Speaker 1: for Greg Papovich is just still very firmly on board
Speaker 1: with paying these big men no matter what. He's just
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, David Robinson.
Speaker 3: That was kind of a loyalty contract too, for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I don't understand. No, but fuck called Marcus Aldridge.
Speaker 1: Gorge Jang also now about to get picked up for
Speaker 1: the Spurs. They got rid of Marku's Chris just so
Speaker 1: that they could put gorge Jang on the team.
Speaker 3: I called that, did you. I didn't call it, but
Speaker 3: I just said, he will hate Markys Christs.
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 1: I saw the gorgee Jang signing and I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: Greg Popovich is like a fucking drug addict jonesing for
Speaker 1: his big man in the center who can block shot
Speaker 1: and get boards and be this like defensive presence for
Speaker 1: your team and be this leader, this like highly affable
Speaker 1: guy that everyone circles and centers around. I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is insane. So Andre Drummon signing
Speaker 1: with the Lakers, I like the fit. Probably could have
Speaker 1: fit in with the Heat, Celtics or Brooklyn. But what
Speaker 1: an embarrassment. That's riches is for the Lakers and for
Speaker 1: the Nets.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, it's just a harsh reality that basketball
Speaker 1: is now changing. Offense is key, the three pointer is
Speaker 1: trumping everything. Teams are just valuing shooting and passing over
Speaker 1: rebounding and defense.
Speaker 2: And the traditional center is now a victim of these times.
Speaker 1: So that's why a seven to two monster like Roy
Speaker 1: Hibbert can be out of a job at thirty.
Speaker 2: That's just insane, sad, sad story.
Speaker 3: How that happened.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was the speed with which Roy Hibbert
Speaker 4: fell off that is really insane. Like he was an
Speaker 4: All Star in twenty thirteen fourteen, he was an All Star,
Speaker 4: uh like defensive Player of the Year candidate, and by
Speaker 4: the playoffs he was unplayable.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was like you.
Speaker 1: Close your eyes, it's almost like spring has sprung.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: There's this little building outside of my apartment and I
Speaker 1: walk my dog there every day and it was like
Speaker 1: dirt and then all of a sudden, I woke up
Speaker 1: one morning and the plants were like a foot high. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like you wake up and it's like Roy Hibbert
Speaker 1: is no longer playable.
Speaker 2: You wake up.
Speaker 1: Gorgie Jangs not a player woke up all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: Andre Drummond is no longer useful at this contract, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna see that happen. I think more and more.
Speaker 1: I think more trees are going to continue. It's like
Speaker 1: the death of the running back to a degree, and
Speaker 1: then the resurgence obviously of the running.
Speaker 2: Back as the offensive styles change.
Speaker 1: That dictates which positions get paid, and you know how highly.
Speaker 2: Coveted they are.
Speaker 3: So I like that.
Speaker 2: I think the only.
Speaker 1: Team really the tree is value before is as long
Speaker 1: as Greg Popovich is still a live coaching basketball.
Speaker 2: There's a place for you somewhere, Marty.
Speaker 1: We had a great conversation with content creator Katie Austin,
Speaker 1: daughter of NBA superagent Jeff Austin, who represents Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: He represented Chris Paul Joannis Crazy Client List.
Speaker 2: He is a managing partner of Octagon, which is.
Speaker 1: Nuts and she's also the daughter of fitness legend Denise Austin,
Speaker 1: who was on ESPN Fight ten Years Running, daughter of
Speaker 1: Royalty in the fitness and athletic space. Conversation was interesting,
Speaker 1: to say the least. She talked about what it was
Speaker 1: like to grow up with the dad who represented these
Speaker 1: types of athletes.
Speaker 2: She was around it since she was little.
Speaker 1: She actually had a dinner with Chris Paul like all
Speaker 1: the time, he would come over the house.
Speaker 2: So little girl Katie Austin. In the middle of that
Speaker 2: her NBA experience, she covered the Summer League.
Speaker 1: She also covered the league for Fox Sports West and
Speaker 1: the funny thing was how Bryce Alfred and her relationship
Speaker 1: with him ruined NCAA basketball for her for a life.
Speaker 2: So a must listen. It's coming up next.
Speaker 5: On this league.
Speaker 1: We have a special guest, Katie Austin, host and fitness personality, beautiful,
Speaker 1: radiating smile former D one athletes. She spent time covering
Speaker 1: the NBA for Fox Sports West in the NBA during
Speaker 1: Summer League.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for joining us, Katie, that guy,
Speaker 5: how are you? Thanks for having me? So?
Speaker 1: I actually got my start covering the NBA Summer League too.
Speaker 5: Did you really what year Dame's first year?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 5: Twenty twelve?
Speaker 7: Okay, I was like twenty eighteen through twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5: Actually you seventeen maybe, yeah, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: It's an incredible place to get your start covering the
Speaker 1: league because it's so much more accessible than you could
Speaker 1: ever imagine the NBA being and probably never will be
Speaker 1: again outside of that particular event.
Speaker 7: And they give you so much creativity, but it is
Speaker 7: such a grind. I mean, you are waking up at
Speaker 7: six am, you are trying to get the stories out,
Speaker 7: and then you have like an intern camera guy. There's
Speaker 7: probably like ten hosts when we did it, and three
Speaker 7: camera guys, and so all the hosts kind of like
Speaker 7: fight over what camera guys that you know people are going.
Speaker 5: To use that day. It is such a hustle.
Speaker 7: So to be thrown into something like that right after
Speaker 7: college was like such a great experience.
Speaker 5: And Warren's a great guy too, Warren and Albert Hall.
Speaker 1: Albert Hall, yeah, they both, they both have done an
Speaker 1: incredible job of making that into a spectacle. But you're
Speaker 1: right lutely, there are games going on from day until night,
Speaker 1: back to back to back, and you're going back before
Speaker 1: and people don't know that it's two arenas, no, and
Speaker 1: you're having to.
Speaker 7: Go back between all the real NBA players, not just
Speaker 7: the ones you know who are the rookies and you know,
Speaker 7: right out of college, but all NBA players come and
Speaker 7: watch the young guys and so you have your pick
Speaker 7: on so many different athletes to interview, and that was
Speaker 7: like the coolest part because I did so many different
Speaker 7: pieces on your NBA guys too.
Speaker 5: Who was your favorite person to interview while you were there?
Speaker 5: Oh man, that's a really hard question. Ah oh okay.
Speaker 5: So I did this piece where I like dance with
Speaker 5: the guys.
Speaker 7: It was like three years ago where this dance move
Speaker 7: was like really trending in the flaw. So I'd ask
Speaker 7: every guy what their favorite dance move was and I'd
Speaker 7: make them do it with me, and they were so
Speaker 7: awkward and I had to be like so energetic and
Speaker 7: kind of crazy, be like just do it with me
Speaker 7: and there's like no music, and I think everyone hated me,
Speaker 7: but like.
Speaker 5: It worked and it made for a great piece. Oh
Speaker 5: that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I think that people know you from your mom and
Speaker 1: fitness through your mom, but they don't know that your
Speaker 1: dad is a super agent.
Speaker 5: No one has any idea.
Speaker 7: I actually mentioned it for the first time on my Instagram,
Speaker 7: like I think, as you know, a month ago or
Speaker 7: two months ago, which is crazy because I get so
Speaker 7: much shit online because I am a band Wagon fan
Speaker 7: for so many different teams.
Speaker 5: I wear so many different jerseys and.
Speaker 7: I hate messages, like literally, these guys will come to
Speaker 7: me and be like, you.
Speaker 5: Were just cheering for the Warriors. Why are you a
Speaker 5: Lakers fan? Now?
Speaker 7: Why are you cheering for the Dallas Mavericks now? And
Speaker 7: I'm like, you don't understand. My dad has like seventeen players,
Speaker 7: and I cheer wherever team they are, And so I'm
Speaker 7: definitely America's biggest bandwagon fan. And that's what made me
Speaker 7: love the NBA so much because I grew up watching
Speaker 7: it with my dad obviously for work, and going to
Speaker 7: games so many games with him growing up, which is
Speaker 7: which has been awesome.
Speaker 5: Was it weird being a little kid and your dad working.
Speaker 1: The room when you're doing you know, you're going to
Speaker 1: a game that you enjoy and you get to see
Speaker 1: him kind of like schmooze but also very much being work.
Speaker 5: Yes, my dad's definitely not a schmoozer.
Speaker 7: He's the most humble, quiet, shy man ever and just
Speaker 7: so so smart. But it's so funny because you know,
Speaker 7: the guys at school, I just remember like and even
Speaker 7: in elementary school and middle school, guides would think I'm
Speaker 7: like the coolest girl because my dad and then girls
Speaker 7: would think I'm cool because my mom, and then I
Speaker 7: definitely got bullied because my mom will.
Speaker 8: Get into that.
Speaker 7: We can get that later, but yeah, it was just
Speaker 7: it was really awesome because I got to meet all
Speaker 7: these amazing players and I just like remember growing up
Speaker 7: with Chris Paul and so even now seeing him and
Speaker 7: his family, it's just like I was so like it
Speaker 7: was just instilled in me growing up with NBA players,
Speaker 7: and I think that's like one of the coolest parts
Speaker 7: that and a great gift that I was given because
Speaker 7: interviewing NBA players came kind of easy to me because
Speaker 7: I wasn't really starstruck by them, if that makes sense,
Speaker 7: because they would come over my house for dinner and so,
Speaker 7: you know, you see an NBA player and you just
Speaker 7: talk to them and you're comfortable like you are with
Speaker 7: any normal human.
Speaker 1: What do you think you outside of not being starstruck,
Speaker 1: do you think that your mindset interviewing an athlete is
Speaker 1: different knowing that there's a whole brand behind them, and
Speaker 1: an agent and publicists and the whole business side. Do
Speaker 1: you think that affects how you actually ask questions and
Speaker 1: what you ask.
Speaker 7: Most definitely you have to, like well especially that's a
Speaker 7: great example to go back to that every question's approved,
Speaker 7: and so you have to not only go through their agency,
Speaker 7: but you have to go through the team's publicist. So
Speaker 7: it's very hard, and I think I definitely have a
Speaker 7: little bit of an advantage just because I feel like
Speaker 7: I would be able to ask some of my dad's
Speaker 7: players a little bit more.
Speaker 5: Intimate questions than a normal person, if that makes right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're more comfortable and they know what your your
Speaker 1: intentions are. How come you decided to go the fitness
Speaker 1: slash hosting route instead of going into the business side.
Speaker 5: Like your dad.
Speaker 7: It's funny because I was I was actually at where
Speaker 7: was an NBA All Star last February, and I literally
Speaker 7: got approached by an agency being like, if you ever
Speaker 7: want to work for us and be an agent like
Speaker 7: your dad, we know you know the business side, please.
Speaker 5: Give me here's my card. And that was like the
Speaker 5: first time I thought about it.
Speaker 7: But as far as fitness and hosting, I actually studied
Speaker 7: broadcast journalism at USC and so I knew from a
Speaker 7: very young age I wanted to be in broadcast. I
Speaker 7: just didn't know exactly what. And so I hosted a
Speaker 7: sports show at UC for two and a half years.
Speaker 7: And then after about a year and a half of
Speaker 7: sports hosting, I kind of got a little bit like, okay, wait,
Speaker 7: I was an athlete my entire life. My mom was
Speaker 7: in fitness. I love fitness so much. I love to
Speaker 7: work out. Let's make a you know, a weekly segment
Speaker 7: about fitness hosting. And so I kind of combined my
Speaker 7: love for like the broadcast side and the working outside.
Speaker 7: And now that's why I call myself a fitness personality.
Speaker 7: But also a huge reason is because I saw my
Speaker 7: mom growing up. People come up to her all the
Speaker 7: time being like, you saved my life. You helped me
Speaker 7: lose all this way. You gave me that confidence to
Speaker 7: like walk into a room. You gave me the confidence
Speaker 7: to break up with my husband.
Speaker 5: Literally, so and.
Speaker 7: Said that to her, and I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 7: The fitness industry is so rewarding. And so I've been
Speaker 7: really struggling the past few years between like sports hosting
Speaker 7: if I want to take that route, like very strongly,
Speaker 7: and then the fitness route, because I've been really doubling
Speaker 7: with them for the past you know, I would say
Speaker 7: three years out of college, and so when you double
Speaker 7: two careers, you can't put your full.
Speaker 5: Heart into either of them.
Speaker 7: You know, you're kind of giving half ass to both
Speaker 7: of them, because you if you want to be a
Speaker 7: good sports host, you have to give it or your
Speaker 7: one hundred percent. And same with being a fitness you know,
Speaker 7: influencer of personality. And so I'm still kind of in
Speaker 7: that in between right now, but I definitely think the
Speaker 7: fitness industry has been more rewarding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head
Speaker 1: when you're doing sports hosting or even agency work. No
Speaker 1: one's going to come up and say, hey, you you
Speaker 1: changed my life to give me the strength and courage
Speaker 1: to leave my husband.
Speaker 5: That's wild. That's wild.
Speaker 1: Why do you think your dad you mentioned he is
Speaker 1: not a schmoozer. He's like a very humble kind of
Speaker 1: nobs guy. What do you think makes him as successful
Speaker 1: as he is. I think he's top ten, top ten
Speaker 1: agent in the NBA for a very long time now
Speaker 1: at least.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, totally.
Speaker 7: Well, he has a lot of integrity and he started
Speaker 7: by representing his best friend, who is Jimmy Connors at
Speaker 7: the time, number one of the world for tennis and
Speaker 7: his sister, who's number one in tennis for women's and
Speaker 7: so when he started being an agent in his early thirties,
Speaker 7: he represented two number one people in the world for
Speaker 7: tennis for a sport, both women's and men's, and both
Speaker 7: of them were, you know, his best friends, I mean,
Speaker 7: his sister and very two close people, and so I think,
Speaker 7: you know, obviously it stems from his heart being so successful.
Speaker 7: I think being kind to people goes a very, very
Speaker 7: long way in the industry. And to be honest, a
Speaker 7: lot of these agents that are schmozers, they can win
Speaker 7: it first and then in the long run, it'll never work.
Speaker 7: And that's why my dad has such longevity with his
Speaker 7: career because he's so kind and so humble, but at
Speaker 7: the same time, like he learned how to really really
Speaker 7: care for his clients with you know, his sister and
Speaker 7: his best friends starting out and who were two top
Speaker 7: athletes in the entire world. But also not in it
Speaker 7: for the money. He's in it because he cares deeply
Speaker 7: about them. So he's very loyal, very loyal to his clients,
Speaker 7: and he cares a lot.
Speaker 1: It seems like he also has a lot of guys
Speaker 1: who were not highly touted who became super.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, he definitely does. He has Stephen, Steph Curry, Joannest. Yes,
Speaker 5: the big one was Stephen Curry.
Speaker 7: I mean we I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 7: did know that Joannis was going to be a superstar,
Speaker 7: you know when my dad's company signed him. But Steph
Speaker 7: was kind of, you know, a little bit of an underdog.
Speaker 7: But my dad this will very tell my dad's age.
Speaker 7: My dad represented Dell Curry. Oh wow, yeah, so so yeah,
Speaker 7: Stephan was just kind of like, yeah, sign with you know,
Speaker 7: Jeff my my dad's name is Jeff, but outside with
Speaker 7: Jeff as well. And then another one that he got,
Speaker 7: which I just love Wesley Matthews's story. And Wesley has
Speaker 7: been with my dad for a while right out of college,
Speaker 7: and you know, he was undrafted and he signed like
Speaker 7: I wanted, like an eighty million dollar deal.
Speaker 5: So you know, he has a.
Speaker 7: Lot of guys that did either go undrafted, came from Europe,
Speaker 7: or definitely were the underdog like Steph.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: What do you think it besides integrity, do you think
Speaker 1: it takes to be to accumulate these types of levels of.
Speaker 7: Client networking networking is key and being again goes back
Speaker 7: to kindness, being nice to people. And I think one
Speaker 7: of my dad's biggest things is going into everything with
Speaker 7: the open hand. Like my dad will never ask people
Speaker 7: for favors.
Speaker 5: You will always be the nice guy in situations.
Speaker 7: But I do think networking and knowing people is very important,
Speaker 7: especially like even for me at a personal level, for
Speaker 7: my career, I could not get to where I am today.
Speaker 7: First off, obviously hold my hard work, but without networking.
Speaker 7: I went to USC which is a massive networking school,
Speaker 7: and so I think network as much as you can.
Speaker 7: I know, right now in this day and age, it's
Speaker 7: a law over zoom. But like you, guys can still
Speaker 7: network with people online and virtually, so making sure you
Speaker 7: have a good close group of people that like can
Speaker 7: actually help you, and again going into it with an
Speaker 7: open hand. Try your best not to ask too many
Speaker 7: people for too many favors, because it will get out
Speaker 7: in the industry that you're the type of people that
Speaker 7: you're the type of person that just asks for and
Speaker 7: gives nothing in return.
Speaker 5: You can't be that person.
Speaker 1: It's interesting I always get banged on because I have
Speaker 1: a lot of friends in the industry that are a
Speaker 1: list names, and I never ask them to be an
Speaker 1: interview for my podcast because I just feel like it
Speaker 1: degrades the friendship.
Speaker 5: At that point, I want never ask any of my
Speaker 5: dad's clients to be interviewed.
Speaker 7: I've never asked them to anything, truly, and I might
Speaker 7: I'm not saying I'm saying yet.
Speaker 5: Because like I love Stephen Curry on my show one
Speaker 5: hundred percent.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, like, I never want my
Speaker 7: dad's clients to think I'm using them.
Speaker 5: That'd be the worst possible situation.
Speaker 1: And at a certain point, you have to think, is
Speaker 1: the is the platform that I'm creating, does it make
Speaker 1: sense for them right now for that favor to be
Speaker 1: used in this moment, Like is the audience is going
Speaker 1: to come along with this interview going to be enough
Speaker 1: to ask for this favor, Like if I ask Mike
Speaker 1: Wellbonner or straight hand.
Speaker 7: Always very weary of people thinking that I get everything
Speaker 7: handed to me. It's kind of been one of my
Speaker 7: insecurities in my backbone, like in the back of my mind,
Speaker 7: like I never want people to think I have my
Speaker 7: parents money. I you know, I just get certain things
Speaker 7: because of who my parents are. Because it's actually the opposite. I,
Speaker 7: you know, got a scholarship to USC. I worked really
Speaker 7: fricking hard to get there. I did four hours of
Speaker 7: practice for basically my entire life to get to LA
Speaker 7: some from Virginia. Originally after college, my parents were like,
Speaker 7: let's let us invest one hundred thousand dollars in your
Speaker 7: fitness business. Didn't take fucking penny. Cuss, Sorry, no, you can't,
Speaker 7: you can't. It's good I didn't take a penny. And
Speaker 7: like with my app. I have a fitness app now
Speaker 7: and it's like the Katie Austin app and it's doing awesome,
Speaker 7: but people don't know that. Yes, I could have borrowed
Speaker 7: some money from my parents to build that app, but no,
Speaker 7: I partnered with someone, so we split at fifty to fifty.
Speaker 7: You know, like I take the routes that I don't
Speaker 7: have to. I never had to ask for that those
Speaker 7: you know, that money from them or ask for favors
Speaker 7: from them. Yes, I do have the last name. That
Speaker 7: definitely helps with my mom in the fitness industry. But
Speaker 7: at the same time, like I really try my best.
Speaker 7: That's I think that's why I work so hard, is
Speaker 7: to kind of you know, break out of that stigma
Speaker 7: that I just get everything.
Speaker 5: In it to me, why is that important to you?
Speaker 5: I don't know. I feel like this is about to
Speaker 5: be a therapy session. I don't know. I really don't
Speaker 5: know why that that's important to me.
Speaker 7: I mean, like, I guess I want to make a
Speaker 7: name for myself and outside of who my mom is.
Speaker 7: Especially We've been talking a lot about my dad and this,
Speaker 7: but my mom had her own fitness TV show for
Speaker 7: twenty four years. My mom was on ESPN for ten
Speaker 7: years with the Still Show five days a week, and
Speaker 7: so coming into an industry where my mom is like
Speaker 7: such a legend is like, I'm not gonna lie. There's
Speaker 7: a lot of pressures that go along with it. It's like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 7: you're not gonna be as successful as her. She made
Speaker 7: you know, she sold XDVD, she made X amount of money.
Speaker 7: It's like you have to live up to that if
Speaker 7: you're in the same frikin industry as her. And a
Speaker 7: lot of people I think, like when I first started,
Speaker 7: I got a lot of hate messages about it, like.
Speaker 5: You'll never be mom.
Speaker 7: But people are becoming a lot nicer now knowing that
Speaker 7: I actually do have the talent to be where I am,
Speaker 7: and so I think I just want to prove myself.
Speaker 7: I've always been either my older sister was number one
Speaker 7: of the nation for lacrosse, and I was always like
Speaker 7: a little bit below her in lacrosse, like a little
Speaker 7: bit not as good as her because she was on
Speaker 7: the cover of like Sony magazines. And you know, I've
Speaker 7: always been the sister or the daughter of And I
Speaker 7: think it just kind of got to me my senior
Speaker 7: year of college.
Speaker 5: I'm like, f this, I'm my own person. I'm excited
Speaker 5: for it, kind.
Speaker 1: Of feeling like you were just you were born in
Speaker 1: the shadow of a bunch of people who were.
Speaker 7: Legends, exactly like my aunt's a freaking legend. My aunt
Speaker 7: was number one, She's the youngest ever to win the
Speaker 7: US Open. And I come from a very, very very
Speaker 7: successful family. So I just want to make success on
Speaker 7: my own.
Speaker 1: You talked about you being an athlete. You were a
Speaker 1: let's just call it a stud You were study. You
Speaker 1: led the nation and assists right in lacrosse. I know
Speaker 1: that you know, I do do at so much.
Speaker 8: You got scholarship to se for lacrosse, right, but this
Speaker 8: was at the exact time where people who were in
Speaker 8: your exact situation right, parents with money and power and fame,
Speaker 8: were buying their kids into the same.
Speaker 5: Schools that you were at.
Speaker 1: Yep, did you have any feeling that that was even
Speaker 1: a possibility while you were there?
Speaker 5: And when that news broke? What were you leaking me?
Speaker 7: Because I worked so hard in lacrosse, like lacrosse where
Speaker 7: I'm from in Virginia, we were number one of the
Speaker 7: nation and in my high school, I mean it was
Speaker 7: like D one and high school it was insane and
Speaker 7: it was so highly competitive. We had ten girls in
Speaker 7: our class all go D one basically, and I'll be
Speaker 7: out with lacrosse. When I got to school, people are like,
Speaker 7: what's lacrosse? Is it the club team or like what
Speaker 7: it was six? Because it's like Los Angeles, They're like
Speaker 7: what is this sport? And I'm like, what the hell?
Speaker 7: Were like the popular cool girls in high school? And
Speaker 7: then after I graduated with all this stuff coming out,
Speaker 7: you know about the rowing team. It was just so
Speaker 7: crazy because I would say I went to USC for
Speaker 7: lacrosse and people are like, sit back and they're like,
Speaker 7: what's this And I'm like They're like, I've never seen
Speaker 7: anything about USC, lacrosse and IM, and they like know
Speaker 7: who my parents are, and I'm literally like, you guys,
Speaker 7: I went That's why my mom and I always say,
Speaker 7: like whatever I say, I went to USC and I
Speaker 7: played lacrosse. We always say. My mom was always like
Speaker 7: and you worked hard to get in. You always have
Speaker 7: to say that, like I know, I know, but no,
Speaker 7: it's really crazy. And I actually had an experience with
Speaker 7: that my first day my orientation waited, this athlete orientation,
Speaker 7: and I don't know if that's anything to do with this,
Speaker 7: but I remember meeting a rower and she was like
Speaker 7: the coxin and I remember being like like talking to
Speaker 7: her about rowing or something.
Speaker 5: And she was like just this lost l a girl.
Speaker 5: Like basically she was just like really cute. And I
Speaker 5: was like, you're an athlete because I was. I was.
Speaker 7: I was a little different back then. I was very,
Speaker 7: very so much tom. I was like, you're an athlete,
Speaker 7: Like what do you do? And she was like telling
Speaker 7: me she was a coxcent show. She had like way
Speaker 7: less and she was only you know, like one hundred
Speaker 7: pounds or something. I was like, oh wow, cool. I
Speaker 7: see her two days later, like when school started, and
Speaker 7: she was like in a cute dress and I was like,
Speaker 7: what are you doing? And she was like, I'm Russian.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, how are you allowed to rush? I
Speaker 7: thought you're not allowed to rush because you know, I
Speaker 7: was allot of rush.
Speaker 5: I was like, what the fuck? And she was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I quit rowing. And I'm like it was two days.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like your.
Speaker 7: Second day, okay, Like what what? And so I was like, now,
Speaker 7: looking back, I thought nothing about it. I was like,
Speaker 7: she was like it was too much for me. I
Speaker 7: just realized I wanted to be a sorority girl. I
Speaker 7: was like, looking back, I'm like, was she part of it? Like,
Speaker 7: holy shit, that's so crazy. But I never had any
Speaker 7: inkling in my mind whatsoever that that even existed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it probably plays plays on your
Speaker 1: in your narrative of like everybody and like that situation
Speaker 1: happening at the same time you were there and just
Speaker 1: being another stereotype and like thing that people believe about
Speaker 1: you that's.
Speaker 5: Not true exactly. Yes, especially USC.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, but our school has the worst rep for
Speaker 7: spoiled children totally.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the University of Spoiled Children. I went to Oregon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I grew I grew up in Portland, went
Speaker 1: to Oregon, and then a bunch of lacrosse kids actually
Speaker 1: at Oregon, and then moved to LA to get into media,
Speaker 1: and so I was sort of around USC and all
Speaker 1: these kids at that time.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's uh, it's crazy. Oh yeah, and I
Speaker 5: know it.
Speaker 1: What do you speaking women's sports, what do you think
Speaker 1: about those ig photos that leaked of the weight room
Speaker 1: and the food.
Speaker 7: I'm not surprised whatsoever, like I saw, and obviously it
Speaker 7: makes me really really really angry, But it's like, you guys,
Speaker 7: this has been for years, Like what do you guys expect?
Speaker 7: Almost it's kind of like, I'm really glad the media
Speaker 7: caught wind of it because it's like very eye opening.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, it's like, uh, yeah, no,
Speaker 7: shit right. You know women's sports have been, you know,
Speaker 7: not equal to men's forever. But at the same time,
Speaker 7: I go back on it, and I'm like, well, the
Speaker 7: only reason that I did go to USC was because
Speaker 7: of Title nine and like because that they had a
Speaker 7: lacrosse teams because they wanted they needed equal amount of
Speaker 7: sports as men. And so I go back on it,
Speaker 7: back and forth on it. But obviously you should have
Speaker 7: the same fucking weight room and the same food as
Speaker 7: the men's basketball team that has nothing. And they even
Speaker 7: said it has nothing to do with money, it had
Speaker 7: something to do with space, which was just such a lie.
Speaker 7: So I do think because the media got caught wind
Speaker 7: of it, it will be different next year. But that's
Speaker 7: the only reason why.
Speaker 1: Which sucks was that your experience when you were playing
Speaker 1: is that they just consistently sort of gave you guys
Speaker 1: lesser van.
Speaker 5: Well, there was not lesser than, honestly.
Speaker 7: I mean, there was definitely more attention from the trainers,
Speaker 7: which I didn't mind because I didn't want to go
Speaker 7: do mobility exercises and foam rolling and ice and stuff.
Speaker 5: Twenty four seven.
Speaker 7: So I guess, like little instances I felt, you know,
Speaker 7: a little bit lesser than. But honestly, we had the
Speaker 7: same everything, with the same weight room, you know, same food,
Speaker 7: everything like that was the same. Really not same as
Speaker 7: football team, that's for sure, but as far as other
Speaker 7: sports it was. I guess the one thing that really
Speaker 7: bothered me was we worked out on a turf field
Speaker 7: indoors in the weight room, and the football players would
Speaker 7: have their shirts off and they would be allowed to
Speaker 7: have their shirts off, and we had to wear these
Speaker 7: like shirts, the big T shirts that came to hear
Speaker 7: and it was so hot in there and all I
Speaker 7: wanted to do was like wear my sports bra, and
Speaker 7: we were allowed, and I got in trouble and had
Speaker 7: to run more sprints because I pulled my shirt up
Speaker 7: to just wipe my sweat. Sorry, I pulled my wipe
Speaker 7: my sweat, and I showed my broad I guess it
Speaker 7: was like me trying to be sexual, and that obviously
Speaker 7: wasn't the case. I was just so fucking tired from sprinting,
Speaker 7: and so you weren't even allowed to, like, you know,
Speaker 7: show a little bit of stomach at all when the
Speaker 7: guys could have their shirts off.
Speaker 1: The men's Men's PAC twelve is dominating in the tournament
Speaker 1: this year as well.
Speaker 5: See, Okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 7: I used to be extremely into NC double A sports
Speaker 7: and March madness and everything, and I used to actually
Speaker 7: used to travel to all the games and Sweet sixteen
Speaker 7: and stuff because I dated a guy for like five
Speaker 7: years on Rye Salford.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how'd you know that? I guess it's all on
Speaker 5: Google Girl, so funny.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did the point guard for UCLA, and so
Speaker 7: I used to be so into it, and then a
Speaker 7: few years after we broke up, I was just like, honestly,
Speaker 7: I can't watch it because it's like just it's just
Speaker 7: too much.
Speaker 5: It's just I need I need a little bit more.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just the breakup was to a point where you can't
Speaker 1: even watch n C double Men's games anymore.
Speaker 7: And I yeah, and I was like, don't even care,
Speaker 7: and he like really really fucked me up for a while.
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie, and so I just yeah, it
Speaker 7: just doesn't really interest me anymore.
Speaker 5: It's and it sucks. It really freaking sucks. All right,
Speaker 5: So how do we find you?
Speaker 1: You're gonna have you have a YouTube series starting launching
Speaker 1: today Monday, when we when this episode comes out.
Speaker 5: It's called Austin AF and it's a play.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a play on AF like as fuck, and
Speaker 7: but it actually stands for and Friends. I'm actually in
Speaker 7: my studio right now. I don't know if it's just
Speaker 7: I'm actually interviewing today. I'm interviewing Mark Sanchez, who's also
Speaker 7: one of the hosts here at Malka. They have like
Speaker 7: Mike Tyson. They have Matt Barnes and Steven Jackson show.
Speaker 7: So I'm super excited. And it's been kind of my
Speaker 7: dream for a while to create a talk show and
Speaker 7: a video first podcast, and so this is gonna be
Speaker 7: a lot around dating, a lot around lifestyle tips and
Speaker 7: kind of interviewing different athletes like today I'm interviewing Mark
Speaker 7: Sanchez on how like like his identity crisis, like after football.
Speaker 7: So yes, it does have a touch of sports to
Speaker 7: it sometimes and all interne some athletes at the same time,
Speaker 7: more like the mental health aspect and lifestyle around it.
Speaker 5: So I'm really excited.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, make sure you follow Katie, give us your
Speaker 1: handles for everyone to follow.
Speaker 7: It's just at Katie Austin on every single platform, and
Speaker 7: in YouTube it's Katy Austin Fit and I do weekly
Speaker 7: YouTube videos and I have my own app which is
Speaker 7: the Katie Austin App and has one hundred and fifty
Speaker 7: workout videos on it.
Speaker 5: Now, that's all the time that we have for Katie
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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