WEBVTT - The Buyout Scam

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of This League, we talk about Andre

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<v Speaker 1>Drummond finally heading to the Lakers yuck, the death of rebounding,

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<v Speaker 1>hit some quick news stories.

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<v Speaker 2>The bubble up during the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a slow week in the NBA, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to hit some stories that have been sort of

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<v Speaker 1>bubbling around along with some listener dms. And we also

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<v Speaker 1>had a special guest interview with Katie Austin, who's a

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<v Speaker 1>fitness host massive platform on TikTok on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>All that she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Also the daughter of NBA superagent Jeff Austin, who represents

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<v Speaker 1>Steff No Big Deal Yannis formerly Chris Paul, Wesley Matthews.

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<v Speaker 2>Great Chat, Must listen. Al Horford. Let's talk about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Former Celtic turn sixer, turncoat Al Horford. Very sad and

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<v Speaker 1>tumultuous departure from Philly.

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<v Speaker 2>It was ugly when he left.

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<v Speaker 1>There was some hate between him and the Philly fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a shocker coming from someone who is hated by

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<v Speaker 1>Philly fans. But I don't know if there was a

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<v Speaker 1>weirder fit than Al Horford being traded to the Thunder

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<v Speaker 1>One because Horford has a huge contract, and two because

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<v Speaker 1>he's thirty four in the Oklahoma City Thunder in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a youth movement.

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<v Speaker 2>I just forgot he even existed.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, like did not remember who he played for, whether

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<v Speaker 1>he was still playing. I knew he was still getting paid.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm thinking to myself, huh, where is he?

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<v Speaker 2>He could fit somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been one of the best leaders in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, he was probably one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>stretch fives in the league, would you agree, Marty?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Considered up there. He was highly coveted when he left

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<v Speaker 1>for Philly. It was there was a few teams that

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<v Speaker 1>were willing to pay him the max, I would say, But,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, there's a youth movement happening in Oklahoma City.

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<v Speaker 1>They have thirty four draft picks in the next seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuts thirty four, I forget, like seventeen first rounders in

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<v Speaker 1>the next seven years. And they've got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>young guns that need to be in the oven. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so much only so much space in the oven.

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<v Speaker 1>You can only have a little cookie sheet in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Only so many cookies can fit in the oven at

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<v Speaker 1>one time. And we know Al Horford is fully baked.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a fully baked cookie. He is a crumbly

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<v Speaker 1>ass cookie, and we've got dough sitting there on the

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City thunder roster and they need to be inside

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<v Speaker 1>that oven. So they shipped out another crumbly ass cookie,

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<v Speaker 1>George Hill. He's in Philly now and they're now benching.

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<v Speaker 1>The latest news is they have now decided and announced.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that they needed to announce this to

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<v Speaker 1>the world, maybe because everyone would be wondering why the

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<v Speaker 1>crumbly cookie is sitting at the end of the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>But they said, Al Horford is now sitting out the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the season. We are putting him on ice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they're doing. They know, I mean give it

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<v Speaker 1>to okay. See, they know exactly what they want.

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<v Speaker 2>A guy who's getting paid fifty million just ridiculous, something dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something really really amounts of money, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>We traded you, We traded for.

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<v Speaker 1>You to get more picks, and now what we need

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<v Speaker 1>is to build for the future. I think that they

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<v Speaker 1>have been probably one of the most ruthless teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA in terms of getting rid of guys that

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<v Speaker 1>they just have no use for.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I don't know exactly what all this does.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's still in the books for two seasons

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<v Speaker 4>after this, and I don't think them sitting him out

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<v Speaker 4>is going to make anyone else more likely to try

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<v Speaker 4>to come him and swoop him. I mean, they made

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<v Speaker 4>that trade to get picks, and that's what they got,

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<v Speaker 4>and they have.

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<v Speaker 3>To eat the contract a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting though, is that the world started clapping at

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<v Speaker 1>Al Horford's sister on Twitter and she was like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Al Horford's decision. He was the one who

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<v Speaker 1>said he was willing to let these young guys develop.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the team, it's not Sam Presty, it's Al.

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<v Speaker 1>Al is such a great leader that he is willing to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do nothing and make millions and millions of dollars. Me too,

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to do that. I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>be the kind of leader.

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<v Speaker 1>That can make stupid, doodoo, dumb money and not have

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<v Speaker 1>to compete and put any more miles on my broken legs.

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<v Speaker 2>But Greenee, here's where the interesting conversation comes.

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<v Speaker 1>Greenee, who is one of our very own barstool employees

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<v Speaker 1>and Celtic's ball washer.

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<v Speaker 2>He just he's just riding Danny Angel's dick into the sunset.

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<v Speaker 1>He said to Al Horford's sister, he's basically our beat reporter.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Greedy, love Greed, No shade really to Greedy.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just for the comic value, Honestly. He tweeted

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<v Speaker 2>at her and said, but what if.

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<v Speaker 1>We miss Al and we Celtics want him back and

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<v Speaker 1>think his beautiful eyes could help. We'd love to see

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<v Speaker 1>him back in Boston. And she said, we would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see him back in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>We the Royal We meaning Al Horford wants.

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<v Speaker 1>To go back to Boston too. If you're his sister,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the the some sort of law of association here.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows where he wants to be. She knows what

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<v Speaker 1>the status is. I can promise you she's had that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with her brother, certainly, and if he did not

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to Boston, she would not say

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<v Speaker 1>whether he wanted to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about.

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<v Speaker 1>The potential of that band getting back together again?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just don't think it's there.

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<v Speaker 4>As long as he's making twenty three million dollars for

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<v Speaker 4>the next two seasons, I think I think they'd rather

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<v Speaker 4>have the two Jays.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what I think could be a possibility. Though.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've got a situation where we're seeing these older

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<v Speaker 1>overpaid we'll call it bunny ER's Superstars Drummond, Blake, Griffin,

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<v Speaker 1>LaMarcus Aldridge.

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<v Speaker 2>Get bought out. Okayse he has him on the hook.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, they said that they are going to pursue other

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<v Speaker 1>options for Horford in the off season. That other option

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<v Speaker 1>could mean a buyout, it could mean a young player.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, what do you think.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if they were able to do that and

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<v Speaker 4>Horford was able to get back on the Celtics for

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<v Speaker 4>a very minimum for like a Drummond level price what

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<v Speaker 4>he's getting now dollars, if they could do that, sure, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I think that team could use all of

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<v Speaker 4>the veteran leadership and like someone that could like steer

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<v Speaker 4>this ship a little more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it'd be I think it'd be great

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<v Speaker 3>if they could pull it off.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise, Al Horford is going to be the most expensive

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<v Speaker 1>Eudonnis Haslam we've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>He's literally DMPs up there just clapping for Shake.

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<v Speaker 1>Gildris Alexander just one of the best development players in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. This is what Horford had to say about

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<v Speaker 1>what could have potentially have been a very awkward situation

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<v Speaker 1>in Oklahoma City, which he has made unawkward, we'll call it.

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<v Speaker 2>When I arrived, I understood the direction of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Team, We had a great individual plan in place for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like as.

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<v Speaker 2>A result, I played really great basketball for the Thunder.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, I know what it's like to

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<v Speaker 1>be young and an aspiring player at this point in

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<v Speaker 1>the season. I understand how important meaningful minutes is for

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<v Speaker 1>their careers and their development. I also understand how important

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<v Speaker 1>it is for the organization to give them that opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>aka the cookie in the oven analogy. I am looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to supporting the guys who supported me, watching them

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<v Speaker 1>continue to play the right way and play together as

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<v Speaker 1>we have throughout the season, while still being around the

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<v Speaker 1>team and continuing my training.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you not still love al Horford.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a top five leader in the NBA top five

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, as you said, I like the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>Horford going back to Boston. I think one you finally

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<v Speaker 1>have someone to hold these young guns accountable. Jalen and Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not leaders, They're twenty three and twenty four. What

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<v Speaker 1>do I fucking know about leadership?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Just all they have is a couple of parables and

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<v Speaker 1>some Tony Robbins quotes and some Eric Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>They have no life experience to draw from. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the oldest players on the team's fucking market smart.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's the one. Certainly, Brad Stevens is

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<v Speaker 1>not the one. I would not allow him to leave

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<v Speaker 1>me anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy, everything he says is basically at like a

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<v Speaker 2>half a decibowl. I can't follow that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have Ted Lasso as my fucking head coach

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<v Speaker 1>than Brad Stevens.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you what, wouldn't we all?

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't we all?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Great series? So yeah I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you could get Al Horford for the cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be quite the intriguing prospect, not only from

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<v Speaker 1>an interior defense level, spreading the floor with a big

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<v Speaker 1>man that can shoot just like Danny Ainge says that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants, and a man who can beautifully hold these

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<v Speaker 1>young guns accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like that, but we'll have to see. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>move on another piece of news. Internet is mad shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>They're mad somehow at KD because the Nets got James

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<v Speaker 1>Harden and Blake Griffin and LaMarcus Aldridge.

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<v Speaker 2>And according to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Those players going to the Nets is because Katie is bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>That's basically what they're saying online right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They are incensed because they say, how could you possibly

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<v Speaker 1>go on record and say you're one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>basketball players right now on the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Which he is. Katie would say he's number one.

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<v Speaker 1>How could you say that and then need all of

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<v Speaker 1>these former All Stars on your team? How how could

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<v Speaker 1>you be such a bitch to want to play team basketball?

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They not only are they saying and discrediting his past rings,

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<v Speaker 1>they are now trying to discredit future rings as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They're devaluing him. And Katie is having zero of that,

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<v Speaker 1>none of that. He is searching his name on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>which we know these mentions, He's got hundreds of thousands.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's he does this.

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<v Speaker 1>He has said I come to Twitter for this reason alone,

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<v Speaker 1>to fight, and he's googling his name on Twitter and

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<v Speaker 1>going deep into his mentions and clapping back at guys

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<v Speaker 1>who are irrelevant with like eleven followers, giving them exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what they want, which is attention. Katie just spitting facts

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<v Speaker 1>and have you seen the recent exchange.

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<v Speaker 3>I did see it, but I didn't go all the

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<v Speaker 3>way through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So here's how it goes down.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's how it starts. Some guy with the screen names.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we use screen names or is it handles?

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<v Speaker 3>Handle?

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<v Speaker 2>But I like screen name? Remember screen name?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Big Poseidon tweeted out right after the Audrey's news broke,

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<v Speaker 1>literally just attributing every piece of good news that the

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Nets have to why Katie sucks, and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't watch the NBA no more.

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<v Speaker 1>The Warriors ruined it, now the Nets make it worse.

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<v Speaker 1>And they both have one common denominator, this fuck Kevin Durant,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And KD, which is wild, responds immediately pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>And says, I see you took all of this personally.

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<v Speaker 1>Lmao great clappack, and Poseidon responds back with lmao, you

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<v Speaker 1>know I did. Yo ass better not lose or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on your top. It may be noted that top could

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<v Speaker 1>mean many things. So KD responds, pause that my guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Pause, okay, KT, nice one.

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<v Speaker 1>He pause, Oh man, I just say KD is just

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<v Speaker 1>like all of us, very easily triggered about certain things

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<v Speaker 1>and willing to come at anyone who hits those triggers,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how many followers that they have. So another

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<v Speaker 1>commenter comes back at Katie in the same ass thread

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, I see you can't really lead a

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<v Speaker 1>team on your own.

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<v Speaker 2>First up, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors may not have won those other two rings without

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant, and so Kevin Durant could be seen as

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<v Speaker 1>an integral part of those rings.

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<v Speaker 2>Akaa leader Okay, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean he won two finals MVPs.

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<v Speaker 1>One two finals MVPs, which they don't give out easily,

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<v Speaker 1>asked Steph Curray Shade, so KD Katie had a perfect response,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, I'll never be able to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>that I really want to do on Earth or Saturn

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<v Speaker 1>or Mars. He didn't say that part. He didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturdn or Mars. He said, I will never be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do anything that I want to do on

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<v Speaker 1>Earth by myself. If you think about it, the longer

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<v Speaker 1>that you think about it, the more deep it sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe this the word Earth makes it sound deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like he's been hanging out with Kyrie a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably just burning.

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<v Speaker 1>Some sage talking about their plans on Earth and how

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<v Speaker 1>they can do anything together and synergy just dropping. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you hate Kyrie dropping nuggets like a Greek philosopher,

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<v Speaker 1>but making me feel better about myself when I get

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<v Speaker 1>mad about things. When people say Tristan knows nothing about basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>that triggers me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie. I will respond to that, how

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<v Speaker 2>dare you?

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<v Speaker 1>I probably have forgotten more about basketball than these motherfucker's

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter know about basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay. So Katie being human just like the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of us is warming to my particular soul.

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<v Speaker 1>So as much as I love seeing Katie on the court,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think that there are things that are really

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with Katie right now. From a health standpoint on,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he sits out for a month and

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<v Speaker 1>change and probably more unless something's really really bad. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think a strain hamstring keeps kd from playing hoop

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<v Speaker 1>after he hasn't played.

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<v Speaker 2>In two years, so I'm with you on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he is out and not playing, he is

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<v Speaker 1>very active on social media, which means more exchanges like this,

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<v Speaker 1>which means more segments for us on this league. So

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Next news Lonzo ball. I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I don't know what's going on. There's conflicting

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<v Speaker 1>news stories everywhere. Does he want to be in New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans or not?

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<v Speaker 4>Smarty, I don't think he does know, and I definitely

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<v Speaker 4>don't think his father does that. Well, came straight out

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<v Speaker 4>and said, we don't want to be in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very hard to tell one person from another because

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<v Speaker 1>his father and him are certainly different. But it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the tea leaves are scattered to the winds.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't read them. This is what's happening as we

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<v Speaker 2>know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. The latest news is this. One NBA agent went

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<v Speaker 1>on the record. I hope it was his agent that

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<v Speaker 1>had been amazing. So one NBA agent said this about Lonzo.

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<v Speaker 1>Lonzo enjoys playing for the Pelicans, but is not a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 2>I like New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 3>New Orleans is great.

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<v Speaker 4>It's is, but I understand if you come from that

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<v Speaker 4>NBA culture, it may not be the city for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And he is from LA and let's be real, New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans is not a basketball town.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a football town. You are the little fish

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<v Speaker 2>in town.

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<v Speaker 1>So the agent says, however, he really wants to end

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<v Speaker 1>up with the Knicks or the Bulls. That has been

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<v Speaker 1>a dream of his. Is likely he will try to

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<v Speaker 1>leave in the off seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I get.

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<v Speaker 3>That restricted free agent, restricted.

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<v Speaker 2>Free agent wants to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, But the VP of Basketball Operations David Griffin said

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<v Speaker 1>right after the trade deadline that the reason that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't trade him was.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Lonzo Baal wants to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Lonzo Ball has said he loves his teammates,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has made it very clear personally one on

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<v Speaker 1>one to me, David Griffin.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to be here in New Orleans. He loves

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<v Speaker 2>it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, those two things cannot exist at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Cannot Lonzo Ball's dad says this, like you said, he

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<v Speaker 1>does not want to be in New Orleans, and he

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<v Speaker 1>should not be in New Orleans. And he's not being

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<v Speaker 1>used properly in New Orleans. No, no, no, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what he says. No, no, no, he cannot stay in

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans. Come on, man, come on listen. Lonzo's always

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<v Speaker 1>been a playmaker. This is how I think he sounds.

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<v Speaker 6>Why are you trying to change him sorry into a

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<v Speaker 6>defense it's a specialists and stays in the corner shooting threes,

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<v Speaker 6>and you're trying to change Zion and brandon Ingram all

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<v Speaker 6>throughout their careers, they've.

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<v Speaker 1>Never been playmakers, pauls Zion hasn't had much of a career, LeVar.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know what he has done and what he

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<v Speaker 2>has not done. They are scorers. Now you want to

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<v Speaker 2>put the ball in their hands and make them playmakers. Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>go score the ball and do what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what, They're going to have a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>trying to win every game if the playmaker ain't making

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<v Speaker 1>the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>So he is mad that Lonzo's being used in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll call him limits what he's allowed to do on

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<v Speaker 1>the court.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you call that fair?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean he's kind of like a three and

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<v Speaker 4>D guard that can slash sometimes, but yeah, isn't the

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<v Speaker 4>primary ball handler, so he doesn't always get those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>And he doesn't get to make decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can't be a Lamello highlight machine when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>got the ball in your hand. Primarily when you're there

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<v Speaker 1>just waiting, you're literally you're just in a shooting stance

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to get the ball kicked out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>When they call on brandon Ingram.

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<v Speaker 1>Lonzo is reportedly three and D specialists, now asking twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars a year in.

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<v Speaker 2>The off season.

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN is predicting that he'll make in the region in

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood of eighteen. Lonzo Good Kid has been very diplomatic.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I love playing with those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>In New Orleans. I'm also really cool with them off

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<v Speaker 2>the floor as well. We're all young.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can do some big things, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>the future coming up. Hmmm, it's hard to say what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what Lonzo is doing is good, old fashioned,

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<v Speaker 1>playing both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the middle. I think he is open to other offers.

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<v Speaker 1>But also open to staying in New Orleans, basically telling

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<v Speaker 1>off record to folks like Chicago and New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>Your franchise, while still saying all the right things to

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<v Speaker 1>David Griffin so that they don't discard him and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not in no man's land if both of those situations

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<v Speaker 1>don't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I get it. I see why New Orleans is not.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, as enticing as a market as New

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<v Speaker 1>York Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not easy to build a brand in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a ball player as a basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Player, It's not I don't know if it's like an

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<v Speaker 1>easy place to build a brand period. And the Pelicans

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<v Speaker 1>are have a terrible name, and I think that actually

0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.320
<v Speaker 1>degrades the brand as well. But Damian Lillard has shown

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not impossible with his Hulu has Live Sports shit.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on State Farm, he's planned for Portland, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's transcended.

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<v Speaker 2>He is what we would call a household name.

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<v Speaker 1>So does he want to be a brand in a

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<v Speaker 1>place in like New Orleans or does he think he

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<v Speaker 1>can do more in a place like New York or Chicago?

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<v Speaker 2>Great questions. I don't know the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also could be, like LeVar said, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he's being used. Does he want to be used

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<v Speaker 1>the best way that the Pels think that he can

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<v Speaker 1>be successful for their team? Or does he want to

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<v Speaker 1>be used in the best way that highlights all of

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<v Speaker 1>his his skills and makes him more highlightable highlightable on?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is that a term high lightable? It could

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<v Speaker 2>be hard to say. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be very interesting to see what happens in

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason. Because I know Leon Rose very high on

0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Lonzo ball twenty million.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know they have a Manuel quickly they have

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Rose. Mmm. Tough, tough to say. Maybe sign in trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a sign in trade so that they can get

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<v Speaker 1>someone in exchange, because Lonzo walking for nothing makes David

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<v Speaker 1>Griffin look like a fucking idiot this league.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who got paid in full?

0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Fucking Andre Drummer got paid in full. Oh, yes, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money. A lot of money that boycott. He

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the most overpaid players in recent memory.

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<v Speaker 1>That twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, those two years, guys just

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<v Speaker 1>got an absurd, ungodly amount of money that they did

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<v Speaker 1>not deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I want everybody get their money. Whatever the world

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<v Speaker 2>is willing to pay you, get it all, get it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh certainly, but that does not preclude me from evaluating

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<v Speaker 1>you based on how much you get paid. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that value matches up with the amount that

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<v Speaker 1>he has gotten paid.

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<v Speaker 2>But God bless him. So the news of the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>Andre Drummond took a buy out from the Cleveland Cavaliers

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<v Speaker 2>and was the belle of the ball. Where would he

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<v Speaker 2>sign he's getting closer and closer.

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<v Speaker 1>To making his decision, like Lebron James' press conference style.

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<v Speaker 1>Will he go to the Boston Celtics, He is getting closer.

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<v Speaker 2>Will he go to the Miami Heat? Will he go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Nets? Which made no sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, he went where everybody had been talking about him

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<v Speaker 1>going pretty much all year LA Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting that Dan Gilbert let that happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I mean we all kind of saw the

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:51.919
<v Speaker 4>riding on the wall that it was going to be

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<v Speaker 4>to the Lakers. And his contract is in the amount

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<v Speaker 4>of seven hundred and ninety four and thirty six that

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.359
<v Speaker 4>he gave back in his buyout with the Calves. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a very friendly signing that will still allow the Lakers

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<v Speaker 4>to remain under the cap and sign a fifteenth player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yikes.

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<v Speaker 1>Great for them, Terrible for the rest of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>Just terrible, just sickening.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh, how the mighty have fallen.

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Andre Drummond is just one of many, one of many

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<v Speaker 1>players that is at the end of his contract five years,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty seven million dollars that he signed for.

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<v Speaker 2>Just let that sink in.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy who was discarded by the Detroit Pistons and

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<v Speaker 1>then discarded by the Cleveland Cavaliers, two teams that you

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<v Speaker 1>would think would want to hang on to a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and they said, no, we'd rather have Jared Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd rather have anyone else on the Detroit Pistons. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy because he is the best rebounder in the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, easy, the best And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't know this until we were doing some research. He

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the best rebounders in the history of

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>the game. In his last three years, this is an

0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 1>interesting step. He's averaged fifteen or more rebounds a game

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<v Speaker 1>and that is more fifteen rebounds of game seasons than

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<v Speaker 1>the entire NBA combined in the last two decades.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I believe that monster. I mean fifteens. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>shit to a board, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit ton of consistent wards.

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So why did he get traded by one of the

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:28.719
<v Speaker 1>worst teams in basketball and then get bought out by

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 1>another terrible team.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a new article and that's detailing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Why this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Herring did a deep dive called great Great Headline.

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<v Speaker 1>I am like a sucker for headlines. The headline is

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<v Speaker 1>bored to death. Welcome to the NBA, where rebounders have

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<v Speaker 1>little value.

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<v Speaker 2>Great fucking article, ty, I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In it, he argued the big man of yesterday and

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<v Speaker 1>truly a thing of the past.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he argued that it's the death of rebounding.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I'm quite there, but it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was very interesting what he.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you stand on rebounding?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I still think a guy that can go

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<v Speaker 4>up and get you twelve thirteen a game has value.

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<v Speaker 4>But not if he clanks up the court and just

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<v Speaker 4>shrinks it and can't do anything. If that's your only

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<v Speaker 4>thing you can do, then yeah, we have problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, I agree. Look at the waiver wire right now.

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<v Speaker 1>LaMarcus Aldridge, Gorgie Jang, Blake, Griffin, Boogee Cousins, Marquise Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Hassan Whiteside as well an elite rebounder, defensive specialist,

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<v Speaker 1>block monster getting zero minutes and Sacramento rumored to be waived.

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<v Speaker 2>Just those are the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the dinosaurs in terms of the type of

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<v Speaker 1>game that they've had. The Marcus Aldiers is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different, a little bit, and Blake Griffin to a

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<v Speaker 1>degree as well, But those guys were big men that

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<v Speaker 1>were there to be the defensive specialist and also grab boards.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think Drummond is much better than all of

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<v Speaker 4>those guys though to rebounding, to be fair at rebounding,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A you think as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Hassan Whiteside is not that different statistically than Andre Drummonds.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, statistically, but if you watch him, Rummon's a

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<v Speaker 4>better defender. Like Hassan will get some blocks, but like

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<v Speaker 4>he he gets.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is they both decide when and where and

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<v Speaker 1>how they want to share and spread their effort.

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 2>They are not always consistently giving you the.

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<v Speaker 1>Effort that you want, which is why I think him

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<v Speaker 1>going to the Lakers is a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 2>But why is this happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are big men being thrown overboard just about everywhere?

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Why did Danny Ainge feel like his starting center Daniel

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Tice was the expendable piece in the salary dump?

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<v Speaker 2>So the answer is that the game has changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams are starting to catch up, and we are now

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that the game has evolved and has taken time

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<v Speaker 1>for NBA gms to essentially get on board with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Philosophy.

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<v Speaker 1>They were paying guys that they should not have been

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<v Speaker 1>paying for things that were not currently matching up value.

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<v Speaker 1>Wise said that it's not like NBA rebounding doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that you have to also do other things

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<v Speaker 1>at that same exact time as well in order to

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<v Speaker 1>be valuable. You cannot make one hundred and twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in only rebound and defend.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry you, that's just not.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough to give you staying power the league as we

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<v Speaker 1>know now, don't I don't understand. The question is why

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<v Speaker 1>do people not want to get on board with scoring

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<v Speaker 1>being the most important thing in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know what that is though.

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 4>It's what you kind of see in baseball where people

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 4>just hang on to just the I don't want to

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 4>say boring, but just hang on to old fundamental aspects

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<v Speaker 4>of the game that they don't like seeing going away

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<v Speaker 4>for some reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's driven in like what we learn in

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 4>youth sports and shit, and it really doesn't play into

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<v Speaker 4>modern athletics.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of people on the internet that

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<v Speaker 1>get very mad at me because I value my we'll

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<v Speaker 1>call it talent evaluation.

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<v Speaker 2>On players overweight scoring. But that's the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>What we there.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>The NBA is overweighting scoring, So I am going to

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<v Speaker 1>overweight scoring as well. The league value scoring over everything else.

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>That's the cold hard facts. No matter what your position is,

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you have to score that. You can't be a center

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that can't score anymore. Andre Drummond has an atrocious jump shot.

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>That's a problem his thing. I don't even know what

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>he does with his arms. I don't even know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Rebounds defense do not matter as much, especially when other

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 2>positions need to rebound. Because here's here's how we break

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<v Speaker 2>it down.

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>If the three pointer is king and you're shooting from

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the logo and it doesn't go in. Anyone who understands physics,

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's physics. Understand understand I think so angles.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Is it triggered.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>If it's triggered on math angles, it's physics.

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>The ball hits the rim at a certain face, it

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>is physics, force and momentum power whatever.

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 2>We'll just throw out some buzzwords.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way that the all comes off the rim

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>is going to rebound further away from the basket then

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Andre Drummond can go and get it. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>probably go past back out to the three point line,

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>where other guards and forwards who are on the wing

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>anyway are in a position to get that rebound. So therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen boards for Andre Drummond is even more spectacular right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but not as important because how important the three point

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<v Speaker 1>line is?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense?

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 3>It does?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, that's how you get Luca averaging nine rebounds

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<v Speaker 1>a game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fucking absurd.

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>So what you really need in the NBA are forwards

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and guards who can rebound, not so much centers who

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>can rebound because they need to be away from the

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>paint anyway. They need to be allowed to give Damian

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Lillard the space that he can and needs to go

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to the hole. So David Cowan's a former legendary rebounder,

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<v Speaker 1>told SI in this article, it used to be that

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<v Speaker 1>the lane was crowded, where there'd be a free for

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>all to grab a board. Now you look up and

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>only guys you're contending for a rebound with are your teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys are just getting back. Like the Stan van Gundy style,

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you see the ball not going the hoop.

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>You just run the other direction. Just don't even try.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I agree with the article, but we

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<v Speaker 2>can't just.

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<v Speaker 1>Act like Andre Drummond is discardible only because he's just

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<v Speaker 1>a rebounder. I think it's really because he makes so

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<v Speaker 1>much damn money.

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<v Speaker 4>Just oh well yeah yeah yeah, and he's been on

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 4>teams that are rebuilding. I mean that's the reason he's

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<v Speaker 4>been yeah, thrown the way.

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<v Speaker 1>So Hassan Whiteside went from four years ninety eight million

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen. He went from making twenty seven million

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>dollars last year to this year making two million dollars

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>in Sacramento, not being able to get any playing time whatsoever.

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 1>There are now rumblings that he might get bought out

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>this year. So that's the reason why is like this

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<v Speaker 1>is a very high like this is a highly needed skill,

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>just not a highly paid skill. Right, you're now a

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>rotation guy. If you can't score Hassan Whiteside, which you can't,

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>we just have no use for you.

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>And LaMarcus Aldridge him too. He signed a two year,

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>fifty million dollar contract with the Spurs.

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh in twenty nineteen, which really would not have ever

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>been paid to anyone else on any other team except

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>for Greg Papovich is just still very firmly on board

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>with paying these big men no matter what. He's just

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, David Robinson.

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 3>That was kind of a loyalty contract too, for sure.

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which I don't understand. No, but fuck called Marcus Aldridge.

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Gorge Jang also now about to get picked up for

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the Spurs. They got rid of Marku's Chris just so

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>that they could put gorge Jang on the team.

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I called that, did you. I didn't call it, but

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 3>I just said, he will hate Markys Christs.

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I remember that.

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I saw the gorgee Jang signing and I was like, yes,

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Greg Popovich is like a fucking drug addict jonesing for

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>his big man in the center who can block shot

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and get boards and be this like defensive presence for

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>your team and be this leader, this like highly affable

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>guy that everyone circles and centers around. I was just like,

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is insane. So Andre Drummon signing

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>with the Lakers, I like the fit. Probably could have

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>fit in with the Heat, Celtics or Brooklyn. But what

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>an embarrassment. That's riches is for the Lakers and for

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the Nets.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yeah, it's just a harsh reality that basketball

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>is now changing. Offense is key, the three pointer is

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>trumping everything. Teams are just valuing shooting and passing over

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>rebounding and defense.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>And the traditional center is now a victim of these times.

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>So that's why a seven to two monster like Roy

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Hibbert can be out of a job at thirty.

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>That's just insane, sad, sad story.

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 3>How that happened.

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it was the speed with which Roy Hibbert

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 4>fell off that is really insane. Like he was an

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 4>All Star in twenty thirteen fourteen, he was an All Star,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 4>uh like defensive Player of the Year candidate, and by

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 4>the playoffs he was unplayable.

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 3>It was like you.

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Close your eyes, it's almost like spring has sprung.

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>There's this little building outside of my apartment and I

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>walk my dog there every day and it was like

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>dirt and then all of a sudden, I woke up

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>one morning and the plants were like a foot high. Yeah,

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like you wake up and it's like Roy Hibbert

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>is no longer playable.

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 2>You wake up.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Gorgie Jangs not a player woke up all of a sudden.

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Andre Drummond is no longer useful at this contract, so

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna see that happen. I think more and more.

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I think more trees are going to continue. It's like

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the death of the running back to a degree, and

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>then the resurgence obviously of the running.

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.479
<v Speaker 2>Back as the offensive styles change.

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>That dictates which positions get paid, and you know how highly.

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Coveted they are.

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 3>So I like that.

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I think the only.

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Team really the tree is value before is as long

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>as Greg Popovich is still a live coaching basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a place for you somewhere, Marty.

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>We had a great conversation with content creator Katie Austin,

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>daughter of NBA superagent Jeff Austin, who represents Steph Curry.

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<v Speaker 1>He represented Chris Paul Joannis Crazy Client List.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a managing partner of Octagon, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuts and she's also the daughter of fitness legend Denise Austin,

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>who was on ESPN Fight ten Years Running, daughter of

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Royalty in the fitness and athletic space. Conversation was interesting,

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to say the least. She talked about what it was

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>like to grow up with the dad who represented these

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>types of athletes.

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 2>She was around it since she was little.

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<v Speaker 1>She actually had a dinner with Chris Paul like all

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the time, he would come over the house.

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>So little girl Katie Austin. In the middle of that

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 2>her NBA experience, she covered the Summer League.

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>She also covered the league for Fox Sports West and

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the funny thing was how Bryce Alfred and her relationship

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>with him ruined NCAA basketball for her for a life.

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<v Speaker 2>So a must listen. It's coming up next.

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<v Speaker 5>On this league.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a special guest, Katie Austin, host and fitness personality, beautiful,

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>radiating smile former D one athletes. She spent time covering

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the NBA for Fox Sports West in the NBA during

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Summer League.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for joining us, Katie, that guy,

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 5>how are you? Thanks for having me? So?

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I actually got my start covering the NBA Summer League too.

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:30.439
<v Speaker 5>Did you really what year Dame's first year?

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 7>Okay?

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 5>Twenty twelve?

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 7>Okay, I was like twenty eighteen through twenty nineteen.

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 5>Actually you seventeen maybe, yeah, twenty seventeen.

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>It's an incredible place to get your start covering the

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>league because it's so much more accessible than you could

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>ever imagine the NBA being and probably never will be

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>again outside of that particular event.

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 7>And they give you so much creativity, but it is

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 7>such a grind. I mean, you are waking up at

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 7>six am, you are trying to get the stories out,

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 7>and then you have like an intern camera guy. There's

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 7>probably like ten hosts when we did it, and three

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 7>camera guys, and so all the hosts kind of like

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 7>fight over what camera guys that you know people are going.

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.280
<v Speaker 5>To use that day. It is such a hustle.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 7>So to be thrown into something like that right after

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 7>college was like such a great experience.

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 5>And Warren's a great guy too, Warren and Albert Hall.

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Albert Hall, yeah, they both, they both have done an

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>incredible job of making that into a spectacle. But you're

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:37.439
<v Speaker 1>right lutely, there are games going on from day until night,

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>back to back to back, and you're going back before

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and people don't know that it's two arenas, no, and

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 1>you're having to.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 7>Go back between all the real NBA players, not just

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 7>the ones you know who are the rookies and you know,

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 7>right out of college, but all NBA players come and

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 7>watch the young guys and so you have your pick

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 7>on so many different athletes to interview, and that was

0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 7>like the coolest part because I did so many different

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 7>pieces on your NBA guys too.

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<v Speaker 5>Who was your favorite person to interview while you were there?

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, that's a really hard question. Ah oh okay.

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 5>So I did this piece where I like dance with

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:13.240
<v Speaker 5>the guys.

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 7>It was like three years ago where this dance move

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 7>was like really trending in the flaw. So I'd ask

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.919
<v Speaker 7>every guy what their favorite dance move was and I'd

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 7>make them do it with me, and they were so

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 7>awkward and I had to be like so energetic and

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 7>kind of crazy, be like just do it with me

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 7>and there's like no music, and I think everyone hated me,

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:30.959
<v Speaker 7>but like.

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 5>It worked and it made for a great piece. Oh

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 5>that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that people know you from your mom and

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>fitness through your mom, but they don't know that your

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>dad is a super agent.

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 5>No one has any idea.

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 7>I actually mentioned it for the first time on my Instagram,

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 7>like I think, as you know, a month ago or

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 7>two months ago, which is crazy because I get so

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 7>much shit online because I am a band Wagon fan

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:01.720
<v Speaker 7>for so many different teams.

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 5>I wear so many different jerseys and.

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 7>I hate messages, like literally, these guys will come to

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 7>me and be like, you.

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 5>Were just cheering for the Warriors. Why are you a

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 5>Lakers fan? Now?

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 7>Why are you cheering for the Dallas Mavericks now? And

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:16.280
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, you don't understand. My dad has like seventeen players,

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 7>and I cheer wherever team they are, And so I'm

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 7>definitely America's biggest bandwagon fan. And that's what made me

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 7>love the NBA so much because I grew up watching

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 7>it with my dad obviously for work, and going to

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 7>games so many games with him growing up, which is

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 7>which has been awesome.

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 5>Was it weird being a little kid and your dad working.

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>The room when you're doing you know, you're going to

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>a game that you enjoy and you get to see

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>him kind of like schmooze but also very much being work.

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 5>Yes, my dad's definitely not a schmoozer.

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 7>He's the most humble, quiet, shy man ever and just

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 7>so so smart. But it's so funny because you know,

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 7>the guys at school, I just remember like and even

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 7>in elementary school and middle school, guides would think I'm

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 7>like the coolest girl because my dad and then girls

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 7>would think I'm cool because my mom, and then I

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 7>definitely got bullied because my mom will.

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 8>Get into that.

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 7>We can get that later, but yeah, it was just

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 7>it was really awesome because I got to meet all

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 7>these amazing players and I just like remember growing up

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 7>with Chris Paul and so even now seeing him and

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 7>his family, it's just like I was so like it

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 7>was just instilled in me growing up with NBA players,

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 7>and I think that's like one of the coolest parts

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 7>that and a great gift that I was given because

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 7>interviewing NBA players came kind of easy to me because

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 7>I wasn't really starstruck by them, if that makes sense,

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 7>because they would come over my house for dinner and so,

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 7>you know, you see an NBA player and you just

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 7>talk to them and you're comfortable like you are with

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 7>any normal human.

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>What do you think you outside of not being starstruck,

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>do you think that your mindset interviewing an athlete is

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>different knowing that there's a whole brand behind them, and

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>an agent and publicists and the whole business side. Do

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you think that affects how you actually ask questions and

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>what you ask.

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 7>Most definitely you have to, like well especially that's a

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 7>great example to go back to that every question's approved,

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 7>and so you have to not only go through their agency,

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 7>but you have to go through the team's publicist. So

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 7>it's very hard, and I think I definitely have a

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 7>little bit of an advantage just because I feel like

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 7>I would be able to ask some of my dad's

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 7>players a little bit more.

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 5>Intimate questions than a normal person, if that makes right.

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're more comfortable and they know what your your

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>intentions are. How come you decided to go the fitness

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>slash hosting route instead of going into the business side.

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 5>Like your dad.

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 7>It's funny because I was I was actually at where

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.720
<v Speaker 7>was an NBA All Star last February, and I literally

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 7>got approached by an agency being like, if you ever

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 7>want to work for us and be an agent like

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 7>your dad, we know you know the business side, please.

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 5>Give me here's my card. And that was like the

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 5>first time I thought about it.

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 7>But as far as fitness and hosting, I actually studied

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 7>broadcast journalism at USC and so I knew from a

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 7>very young age I wanted to be in broadcast. I

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 7>just didn't know exactly what. And so I hosted a

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 7>sports show at UC for two and a half years.

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 7>And then after about a year and a half of

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 7>sports hosting, I kind of got a little bit like, okay, wait,

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 7>I was an athlete my entire life. My mom was

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 7>in fitness. I love fitness so much. I love to

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 7>work out. Let's make a you know, a weekly segment

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 7>about fitness hosting. And so I kind of combined my

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 7>love for like the broadcast side and the working outside.

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 7>And now that's why I call myself a fitness personality.

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 7>But also a huge reason is because I saw my

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 7>mom growing up. People come up to her all the

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 7>time being like, you saved my life. You helped me

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 7>lose all this way. You gave me that confidence to

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 7>like walk into a room. You gave me the confidence

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 7>to break up with my husband.

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 5>Literally, so and.

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 7>Said that to her, and I was like, holy shit.

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 7>The fitness industry is so rewarding. And so I've been

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.800
<v Speaker 7>really struggling the past few years between like sports hosting

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 7>if I want to take that route, like very strongly,

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 7>and then the fitness route, because I've been really doubling

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 7>with them for the past you know, I would say

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 7>three years out of college, and so when you double

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 7>two careers, you can't put your full.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 5>Heart into either of them.

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 7>You know, you're kind of giving half ass to both

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 7>of them, because you if you want to be a

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 7>good sports host, you have to give it or your

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 7>one hundred percent. And same with being a fitness you know,

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 7>influencer of personality. And so I'm still kind of in

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 7>that in between right now, but I definitely think the

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 7>fitness industry has been more rewarding.

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>when you're doing sports hosting or even agency work. No

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>one's going to come up and say, hey, you you

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.240
<v Speaker 1>changed my life to give me the strength and courage

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>to leave my husband.

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 5>That's wild. That's wild.

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think your dad you mentioned he is

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 1>not a schmoozer. He's like a very humble kind of

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 1>nobs guy. What do you think makes him as successful

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 1>as he is. I think he's top ten, top ten

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 1>agent in the NBA for a very long time now

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:49.280
<v Speaker 1>at least.

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh, totally.

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 7>Well, he has a lot of integrity and he started

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 7>by representing his best friend, who is Jimmy Connors at

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 7>the time, number one of the world for tennis and

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 7>his sister, who's number one in tennis for women's and

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 7>so when he started being an agent in his early thirties,

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 7>he represented two number one people in the world for

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 7>tennis for a sport, both women's and men's, and both

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 7>of them were, you know, his best friends, I mean,

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 7>his sister and very two close people, and so I think,

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 7>you know, obviously it stems from his heart being so successful.

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 7>I think being kind to people goes a very, very

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 7>long way in the industry. And to be honest, a

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 7>lot of these agents that are schmozers, they can win

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 7>it first and then in the long run, it'll never work.

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:36.359
<v Speaker 7>And that's why my dad has such longevity with his

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 7>career because he's so kind and so humble, but at

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 7>the same time, like he learned how to really really

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 7>care for his clients with you know, his sister and

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 7>his best friends starting out and who were two top

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 7>athletes in the entire world. But also not in it

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 7>for the money. He's in it because he cares deeply

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 7>about them. So he's very loyal, very loyal to his clients,

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 7>and he cares a lot.

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>It seems like he also has a lot of guys

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 1>who were not highly touted who became super.

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, he definitely does. He has Stephen, Steph Curry, Joannest. Yes,

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 5>the big one was Stephen Curry.

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 7>I mean we I feel like a lot of people

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 7>did know that Joannis was going to be a superstar,

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 7>you know when my dad's company signed him. But Steph

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.880
<v Speaker 7>was kind of, you know, a little bit of an underdog.

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 7>But my dad this will very tell my dad's age.

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 7>My dad represented Dell Curry. Oh wow, yeah, so so yeah,

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 7>Stephan was just kind of like, yeah, sign with you know,

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 7>Jeff my my dad's name is Jeff, but outside with

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 7>Jeff as well. And then another one that he got,

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 7>which I just love Wesley Matthews's story. And Wesley has

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 7>been with my dad for a while right out of college,

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 7>and you know, he was undrafted and he signed like

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 7>I wanted, like an eighty million dollar deal.

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 5>So you know, he has a.

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:49.280
<v Speaker 7>Lot of guys that did either go undrafted, came from Europe,

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:51.800
<v Speaker 7>or definitely were the underdog like Steph.

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's interesting.

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>What do you think it besides integrity, do you think

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 1>it takes to be to accumulate these types of levels of.

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 7>Client networking networking is key and being again goes back

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 7>to kindness, being nice to people. And I think one

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 7>of my dad's biggest things is going into everything with

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:13.360
<v Speaker 7>the open hand. Like my dad will never ask people

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 7>for favors.

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 5>You will always be the nice guy in situations.

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 7>But I do think networking and knowing people is very important,

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 7>especially like even for me at a personal level, for

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.720
<v Speaker 7>my career, I could not get to where I am today.

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 7>First off, obviously hold my hard work, but without networking.

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.800
<v Speaker 7>I went to USC which is a massive networking school,

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 7>and so I think network as much as you can.

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 7>I know, right now in this day and age, it's

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 7>a law over zoom. But like you, guys can still

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 7>network with people online and virtually, so making sure you

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.399
<v Speaker 7>have a good close group of people that like can

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 7>actually help you, and again going into it with an

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 7>open hand. Try your best not to ask too many

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 7>people for too many favors, because it will get out

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 7>in the industry that you're the type of people that

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 7>you're the type of person that just asks for and

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 7>gives nothing in return.

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 5>You can't be that person.

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting I always get banged on because I have

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of friends in the industry that are a

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>list names, and I never ask them to be an

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 1>interview for my podcast because I just feel like it

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>degrades the friendship.

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 5>At that point, I want never ask any of my

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 5>dad's clients to be interviewed.

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 7>I've never asked them to anything, truly, and I might

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 7>I'm not saying I'm saying yet.

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 5>Because like I love Stephen Curry on my show one

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 5>hundred percent.

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 7>But at the same time, like, I never want my

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 7>dad's clients to think I'm using them.

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 5>That'd be the worst possible situation.

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>And at a certain point, you have to think, is

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the is the platform that I'm creating, does it make

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>sense for them right now for that favor to be

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 1>used in this moment, Like is the audience is going

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to come along with this interview going to be enough

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to ask for this favor, Like if I ask Mike

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Wellbonner or straight hand.

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 7>Always very weary of people thinking that I get everything

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 7>handed to me. It's kind of been one of my

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 7>insecurities in my backbone, like in the back of my mind,

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 7>like I never want people to think I have my

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:14.919
<v Speaker 7>parents money. I you know, I just get certain things

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 7>because of who my parents are. Because it's actually the opposite. I,

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 7>you know, got a scholarship to USC. I worked really

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 7>fricking hard to get there. I did four hours of

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 7>practice for basically my entire life to get to LA

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 7>some from Virginia. Originally after college, my parents were like,

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 7>let's let us invest one hundred thousand dollars in your

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 7>fitness business. Didn't take fucking penny. Cuss, Sorry, no, you can't,

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 7>you can't. It's good I didn't take a penny. And

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.359
<v Speaker 7>like with my app. I have a fitness app now

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 7>and it's like the Katie Austin app and it's doing awesome,

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 7>but people don't know that. Yes, I could have borrowed

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 7>some money from my parents to build that app, but no,

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 7>I partnered with someone, so we split at fifty to fifty.

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 7>You know, like I take the routes that I don't

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 7>have to. I never had to ask for that those

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 7>you know, that money from them or ask for favors

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 7>from them. Yes, I do have the last name. That

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 7>definitely helps with my mom in the fitness industry. But

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 7>at the same time, like I really try my best.

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 7>That's I think that's why I work so hard, is

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.280
<v Speaker 7>to kind of you know, break out of that stigma

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 7>that I just get everything.

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 5>In it to me, why is that important to you?

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I feel like this is about to

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 5>be a therapy session. I don't know. I really don't

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 5>know why that that's important to me.

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 7>I mean, like, I guess I want to make a

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 7>name for myself and outside of who my mom is.

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 7>Especially We've been talking a lot about my dad and this,

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 7>but my mom had her own fitness TV show for

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 7>twenty four years. My mom was on ESPN for ten

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 7>years with the Still Show five days a week, and

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 7>so coming into an industry where my mom is like

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 7>such a legend is like, I'm not gonna lie. There's

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 7>a lot of pressures that go along with it. It's like, oh, shoot,

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 7>you're not gonna be as successful as her. She made

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 7>you know, she sold XDVD, she made X amount of money.

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 7>It's like you have to live up to that if

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 7>you're in the same frikin industry as her. And a

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 7>lot of people I think, like when I first started,

0:47:57.880 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 7>I got a lot of hate messages about it, like.

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:00.319
<v Speaker 5>You'll never be mom.

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 7>But people are becoming a lot nicer now knowing that

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 7>I actually do have the talent to be where I am,

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.880
<v Speaker 7>and so I think I just want to prove myself.

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 7>I've always been either my older sister was number one

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 7>of the nation for lacrosse, and I was always like

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.400
<v Speaker 7>a little bit below her in lacrosse, like a little

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 7>bit not as good as her because she was on

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 7>the cover of like Sony magazines. And you know, I've

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 7>always been the sister or the daughter of And I

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 7>think it just kind of got to me my senior

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:27.800
<v Speaker 7>year of college.

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:31.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, f this, I'm my own person. I'm excited

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:32.280
<v Speaker 5>for it, kind.

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Of feeling like you were just you were born in

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the shadow of a bunch of people who were.

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 7>Legends, exactly like my aunt's a freaking legend. My aunt

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 7>was number one, She's the youngest ever to win the

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 7>US Open. And I come from a very, very very

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 7>successful family. So I just want to make success on

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:48.719
<v Speaker 7>my own.

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>You talked about you being an athlete. You were a

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>let's just call it a stud You were study. You

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>led the nation and assists right in lacrosse. I know

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that you know, I do do at so much.

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:06.839
<v Speaker 8>You got scholarship to se for lacrosse, right, but this

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 8>was at the exact time where people who were in

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 8>your exact situation right, parents with money and power and fame,

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 8>were buying their kids into the same.

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 5>Schools that you were at.

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Yep, did you have any feeling that that was even

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 1>a possibility while you were there?

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:31.920
<v Speaker 5>And when that news broke? What were you leaking me?

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:36.839
<v Speaker 7>Because I worked so hard in lacrosse, like lacrosse where

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 7>I'm from in Virginia, we were number one of the

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 7>nation and in my high school, I mean it was

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 7>like D one and high school it was insane and

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 7>it was so highly competitive. We had ten girls in

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.800
<v Speaker 7>our class all go D one basically, and I'll be

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 7>out with lacrosse. When I got to school, people are like,

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 7>what's lacrosse? Is it the club team or like what

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 7>it was six? Because it's like Los Angeles, They're like

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 7>what is this sport? And I'm like, what the hell?

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 7>Were like the popular cool girls in high school? And

0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 7>then after I graduated with all this stuff coming out,

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 7>you know about the rowing team. It was just so

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:11.440
<v Speaker 7>crazy because I would say I went to USC for

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 7>lacrosse and people are like, sit back and they're like,

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 7>what's this And I'm like They're like, I've never seen

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 7>anything about USC, lacrosse and IM, and they like know

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 7>who my parents are, and I'm literally like, you guys,

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.840
<v Speaker 7>I went That's why my mom and I always say,

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 7>like whatever I say, I went to USC and I

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:30.840
<v Speaker 7>played lacrosse. We always say. My mom was always like

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 7>and you worked hard to get in. You always have

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 7>to say that, like I know, I know, but no,

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 7>it's really crazy. And I actually had an experience with

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 7>that my first day my orientation waited, this athlete orientation,

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 7>and I don't know if that's anything to do with this,

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 7>but I remember meeting a rower and she was like

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 7>the coxin and I remember being like like talking to

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 7>her about rowing or something.

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 5>And she was like just this lost l a girl.

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 5>Like basically she was just like really cute. And I

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 5>was like, you're an athlete because I was. I was.

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 7>I was a little different back then. I was very,

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 7>very so much tom. I was like, you're an athlete,

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:08.359
<v Speaker 7>Like what do you do? And she was like telling

0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 7>me she was a coxcent show. She had like way

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 7>less and she was only you know, like one hundred

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 7>pounds or something. I was like, oh wow, cool. I

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 7>see her two days later, like when school started, and

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 7>she was like in a cute dress and I was like,

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:21.800
<v Speaker 7>what are you doing? And she was like, I'm Russian.

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 7>And I'm like, how are you allowed to rush? I

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 7>thought you're not allowed to rush because you know, I

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 7>was allot of rush.

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 5>I was like, what the fuck? And she was like, oh,

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:32.280
<v Speaker 5>I quit rowing. And I'm like it was two days.

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 5>I was like your.

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:39.399
<v Speaker 7>Second day, okay, Like what what? And so I was like, now,

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 7>looking back, I thought nothing about it. I was like,

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:42.360
<v Speaker 7>she was like it was too much for me. I

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:43.920
<v Speaker 7>just realized I wanted to be a sorority girl. I

0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:47.160
<v Speaker 7>was like, looking back, I'm like, was she part of it? Like,

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 7>holy shit, that's so crazy. But I never had any

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 7>inkling in my mind whatsoever that that even existed.

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think it probably plays plays on your

0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:01.840
<v Speaker 1>in your narrative of like everybody and like that situation

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>happening at the same time you were there and just

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:09.719
<v Speaker 1>being another stereotype and like thing that people believe about

0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you that's.

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 5>Not true exactly. Yes, especially USC.

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.759
<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry, but our school has the worst rep for

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:18.280
<v Speaker 7>spoiled children totally.

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:20.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's the University of Spoiled Children. I went to Oregon.

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I grew I grew up in Portland, went

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to Oregon, and then a bunch of lacrosse kids actually

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 1>at Oregon, and then moved to LA to get into media,

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and so I was sort of around USC and all

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 1>these kids at that time.

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:38.160
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, it's uh, it's crazy. Oh yeah, and I

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 5>know it.

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:41.919
<v Speaker 1>What do you speaking women's sports, what do you think

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:46.320
<v Speaker 1>about those ig photos that leaked of the weight room

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and the food.

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.319
<v Speaker 7>I'm not surprised whatsoever, like I saw, and obviously it

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:55.240
<v Speaker 7>makes me really really really angry, But it's like, you guys,

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:57.960
<v Speaker 7>this has been for years, Like what do you guys expect?

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.479
<v Speaker 7>Almost it's kind of like, I'm really glad the media

0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 7>caught wind of it because it's like very eye opening.

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:04.920
<v Speaker 7>But at the same time, it's like, uh, yeah, no,

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 7>shit right. You know women's sports have been, you know,

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.280
<v Speaker 7>not equal to men's forever. But at the same time,

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 7>I go back on it, and I'm like, well, the

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 7>only reason that I did go to USC was because

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 7>of Title nine and like because that they had a

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 7>lacrosse teams because they wanted they needed equal amount of

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 7>sports as men. And so I go back on it,

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 7>back and forth on it. But obviously you should have

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.799
<v Speaker 7>the same fucking weight room and the same food as

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:33.120
<v Speaker 7>the men's basketball team that has nothing. And they even

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 7>said it has nothing to do with money, it had

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 7>something to do with space, which was just such a lie.

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 7>So I do think because the media got caught wind

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 7>of it, it will be different next year. But that's

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:45.080
<v Speaker 7>the only reason why.

0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Which sucks was that your experience when you were playing

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:51.240
<v Speaker 1>is that they just consistently sort of gave you guys

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 1>lesser van.

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, there was not lesser than, honestly.

0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 7>I mean, there was definitely more attention from the trainers,

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 7>which I didn't mind because I didn't want to go

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 7>do mobility exercises and foam rolling and ice and stuff.

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 5>Twenty four seven.

0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 7>So I guess, like little instances I felt, you know,

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 7>a little bit lesser than. But honestly, we had the

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 7>same everything, with the same weight room, you know, same food,

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:22.719
<v Speaker 7>everything like that was the same. Really not same as

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:25.399
<v Speaker 7>football team, that's for sure, but as far as other

0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 7>sports it was. I guess the one thing that really

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 7>bothered me was we worked out on a turf field

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:34.879
<v Speaker 7>indoors in the weight room, and the football players would

0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 7>have their shirts off and they would be allowed to

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:38.359
<v Speaker 7>have their shirts off, and we had to wear these

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:40.959
<v Speaker 7>like shirts, the big T shirts that came to hear

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.440
<v Speaker 7>and it was so hot in there and all I

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:46.879
<v Speaker 7>wanted to do was like wear my sports bra, and

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:49.400
<v Speaker 7>we were allowed, and I got in trouble and had

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:51.759
<v Speaker 7>to run more sprints because I pulled my shirt up

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 7>to just wipe my sweat. Sorry, I pulled my wipe

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:57.160
<v Speaker 7>my sweat, and I showed my broad I guess it

0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:01.880
<v Speaker 7>was like me trying to be sexual, and that obviously

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't the case. I was just so fucking tired from sprinting,

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<v Speaker 7>and so you weren't even allowed to, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>show a little bit of stomach at all when the

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<v Speaker 7>guys could have their shirts off.

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<v Speaker 1>The men's Men's PAC twelve is dominating in the tournament

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<v Speaker 1>this year as well.

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<v Speaker 5>See, Okay, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I used to be extremely into NC double A sports

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<v Speaker 7>and March madness and everything, and I used to actually

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<v Speaker 7>used to travel to all the games and Sweet sixteen

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<v Speaker 7>and stuff because I dated a guy for like five

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<v Speaker 7>years on Rye Salford.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, how'd you know that? I guess it's all on

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<v Speaker 5>Google Girl, so funny.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I did the point guard for UCLA, and so

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<v Speaker 7>I used to be so into it, and then a

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<v Speaker 7>few years after we broke up, I was just like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 7>I can't watch it because it's like just it's just

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<v Speaker 7>too much.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just I need I need a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the breakup was to a point where you can't

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<v Speaker 1>even watch n C double Men's games anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>And I yeah, and I was like, don't even care,

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<v Speaker 7>and he like really really fucked me up for a while.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not gonna lie, and so I just yeah, it

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<v Speaker 7>just doesn't really interest me anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>It's and it sucks. It really freaking sucks. All right,

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<v Speaker 5>So how do we find you?

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have you have a YouTube series starting launching

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<v Speaker 1>today Monday, when we when this episode comes out.

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<v Speaker 5>It's called Austin AF and it's a play.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's a play on AF like as fuck, and

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<v Speaker 7>but it actually stands for and Friends. I'm actually in

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<v Speaker 7>my studio right now. I don't know if it's just

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<v Speaker 7>I'm actually interviewing today. I'm interviewing Mark Sanchez, who's also

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<v Speaker 7>one of the hosts here at Malka. They have like

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<v Speaker 7>Mike Tyson. They have Matt Barnes and Steven Jackson show.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm super excited. And it's been kind of my

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<v Speaker 7>dream for a while to create a talk show and

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<v Speaker 7>a video first podcast, and so this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 7>a lot around dating, a lot around lifestyle tips and

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<v Speaker 7>kind of interviewing different athletes like today I'm interviewing Mark

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<v Speaker 7>Sanchez on how like like his identity crisis, like after football.

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<v Speaker 7>So yes, it does have a touch of sports to

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<v Speaker 7>it sometimes and all interne some athletes at the same time,

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<v Speaker 7>more like the mental health aspect and lifestyle around it.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm really excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, Well, make sure you follow Katie, give us your

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<v Speaker 1>handles for everyone to follow.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just at Katie Austin on every single platform, and

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<v Speaker 7>in YouTube it's Katy Austin Fit and I do weekly

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<v Speaker 7>YouTube videos and I have my own app which is

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<v Speaker 7>the Katie Austin App and has one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 7>workout videos on it.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, that's all the time that we have for Katie

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<v Speaker 5>on the This League Podcast. Thanks so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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