Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I didn't have the full understanding because I hadn't seen
Speaker 2: the episode and I've only seen what is on social
Speaker 2: media about Kyle's text to Dorit. But Kyle sent a long, heartfelt, emotional,
Speaker 2: guttural text to Dorit, and Dorrit chose to air it
Speaker 2: on the show, and the production company and the network
Speaker 2: allowed that.
Speaker 1: Like what a personal violation like.
Speaker 2: That is not something I have to ask anybody if
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: There's just I can't imagine a universe where you would
Speaker 2: feel is this big brother? Like this is the Handmaid's Tale?
Speaker 2: I mean, what else could it possibly be? You're on
Speaker 2: a show, and you're working on the show, then you're
Speaker 2: off the show and you're texting, Like does everybody have
Speaker 2: to hand over all of their personal thoughts too? It's
Speaker 2: your actions, and it's the things you say when you're
Speaker 2: on camera, but it's the things you say when you're
Speaker 2: off camera too. That's insanity. Like that is such a
Speaker 2: violation and anyone who doesn't understand that is wrong And
Speaker 2: I never say that. If you don't understand that, that's
Speaker 2: a crazy violation and.
Speaker 1: Should be illegal. That is wrong.
Speaker 2: Wow, imagine like watching television and be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: cause you're like, what else have I texted Dory in
Speaker 2: the years that we've known each other? I mean, good God,
Speaker 2: I could tell you this with great certainty. Luan, Ramona, Jill, Alex,
Speaker 2: Kelly be like, I don't know if I've ever texted
Speaker 2: Kelly Ben Timone, but like to share a personal text.
Speaker 2: I mean I have text with Andy Cohen for years.
Speaker 2: I would never share them text with Kelly Rippa. I
Speaker 2: have text with people that I've worked with that I
Speaker 2: can't stand in the past. I would never air a
Speaker 2: personal text like or or an instant you know, an
Speaker 2: Instagram message, Like that's where the line is. You know,
Speaker 2: you do everything above board, like we're in the ring
Speaker 2: and whatever happens in there is you're in the ring.
Speaker 2: But like you don't like smack someone on the back
Speaker 2: of the head as you're walking out, like it's not
Speaker 2: fair fighting, what the fuck? And Kyle's not gonna air
Speaker 2: Dorit's messages because that's two wrong to make it right,
Speaker 2: and that's not gonna make her feel any better. It's
Speaker 2: just so unethical from every single person. And does anyone
Speaker 2: not understand that, Like this is insane.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. That's I don't know why.
Speaker 2: That hit like on the back of the head, like,
Speaker 2: are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: If I thought my personal texts, oh my god, that
Speaker 2: is horrendous. And Kyle is a favorite there, and that's
Speaker 2: how they treat their favorite children. That's what happens to
Speaker 2: the favorite child in the family. Imagine what happens to
Speaker 2: the least favorite children in the family. So I need
Speaker 2: to make the distinction between them on reunions, airing a
Speaker 2: text that someone shows when there's a discrepancy. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: you called me a whore. No, I didn't, Yes I did.
Speaker 2: Here's the text you called me a whore. That is
Speaker 2: very different than just unilaterally deciding to err a text
Speaker 2: when someone is so emotionally vulnerable and just saying that
Speaker 2: they're at their lowest point like that could send someone
Speaker 2: over the edge emotionally. That's very different. And maybe listen,
Speaker 2: I came up at the time when there were no texts,
Speaker 2: there were no receipts. That started later, and I believe
Speaker 2: I called Dennis on camera to prove a point. And
Speaker 2: I believe that Carol and I were having a dispute
Speaker 2: and we showed andy texts, but I don't believe we
Speaker 2: read entire texts. Ever, I've never read an entire text
Speaker 2: of someone else's like I feel like that's private or
Speaker 2: an Instagram message.
Speaker 1: So that is very different.
Speaker 2: Like you can't say Kyle texting someone heartfelt. That doesn't
Speaker 2: incriminate anyone, That doesn't settle any argument, that has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with anything else. Really that's necessary or relevant,
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like someone else said that Kyle killed
Speaker 2: somebody and then Dorrie was like, here's the evidence she
Speaker 2: killed somebody? Or she didn't like it was literally, Hi,
Speaker 2: we're friends. I'm sorry, I'm vulnerable. I'm at a low
Speaker 2: point and that was aired. So if you don't see
Speaker 2: that that's different, then you're just clueless. Let's talk about
Speaker 2: the texts that Dorit shared on the Housewives. The press
Speaker 2: is saying that I'm blaming Dorit. I'm actually not blaming
Speaker 2: Doriet at all. Dorrit is not at fault. Dorit is
Speaker 2: a housewife doing a housewives job. Dorriy is a soldier
Speaker 2: and she's a good housewife, and she needs the job.
Speaker 2: She wants the job, she's good at the job. She's
Speaker 2: doing her job. There are no real deep personal relationships
Speaker 2: possible on the Housewives. It's affected siblings, affected sister in laws,
Speaker 2: it's affected cousins, it's affected friendships. We've seen best friends crumble,
Speaker 2: We've seen sisters go to war.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. So Dorita is just doing her job.
Speaker 2: You cannot get mad at Dorit because you cannot get
Speaker 2: mad at anyone for what they're doing under duress. And
Speaker 2: that's why so many housewives have admittedly said that they
Speaker 2: take anti anxiety medication, antidepression medication, because The Housewives is
Speaker 2: an alternate universe where it's heightened drinking, heightened stress, heightened
Speaker 2: nervous system activation, traveling, and not getting enough sleep, alcohol
Speaker 2: being everywhere, alcohol is seeming like a good idea, drugs
Speaker 2: seeming like a good idea, falling off the wagon.
Speaker 1: All of these things are true.
Speaker 2: So Dorita is in a situation where she wants to
Speaker 2: get raiding. She's a housewife, and she also has producers
Speaker 2: in her ear telling her it's a good idea that
Speaker 2: happens all the time. I do not blame Dorit. Also,
Speaker 2: we're dealing with a situation where this is a person
Speaker 2: sending a text who's under mental and emotional dress.
Speaker 1: She says it in the text.
Speaker 2: She says she's at an emotional low, so now she's
Speaker 2: at a vulnerable point.
Speaker 1: She's going through a bad divorce.
Speaker 2: It's affecting her emotional and mental well being, and she's
Speaker 2: communicating that. That's different than I ever seated at a reunion.
Speaker 2: When someone says you didn't say that, someone says I
Speaker 2: did say that, and then they provide a receipt. That's
Speaker 2: a very different circumstance. So don't get it twisted. I'm
Speaker 2: not blaming Doried. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Speaker 2: So there are rumors that Watch what Happens Live end
Speaker 2: or Andy Cohen's tenure on that show will end soon
Speaker 2: because of failed ratings, and that show has never really
Speaker 2: rated that high. But it's a flagship store to promote
Speaker 2: the Bravo product, so it's a great place to have
Speaker 2: a conversation about Bravo shows that will definitely and always
Speaker 2: does result in pickup, which ends up promoting those shows.
Speaker 2: It's always been a promotional vehicle, and everyone can decide
Speaker 2: over ten years later to criticize Andy because of that,
Speaker 2: and certainly he and I are not thick as thieves
Speaker 2: at the moment, but I will say that he's done
Speaker 2: a great job, Like he really has had an incredible
Speaker 2: run from a show that in the very beginning Kathy
Speaker 2: Griffin didn't want to do because she was like, I've
Speaker 2: done the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, I'm not doing watch.
Speaker 1: What Happens Live.
Speaker 2: And the show started with Dan Yell as its first guest.
Speaker 2: I used to be on in the beginning, and Oprah's
Speaker 2: been on, Share has been on, Madonna's been on pretty
Speaker 2: crazy guests on that show, but not just the guests.
Speaker 2: He's been charismatic, entertaining. He makes it look easy and
Speaker 2: it's not easy, and just the grind of going in
Speaker 2: every single night and it being live and getting killed
Speaker 2: and criticized for different things. And it's been incredibly lucrative
Speaker 2: for him and it's been a great, as I said,
Speaker 2: promotional tool and vehicle. But he's done great and had
Speaker 2: a good run. So it's never been a ratings darling,
Speaker 2: but that you know, ratings are amazing and advertisers are
Speaker 2: all about the ratings, but that show has had a
Speaker 2: double and triple dip in that it's been a great
Speaker 2: promotional vehicle and it's been a coveted seat for women
Speaker 2: to come on and hawk their wares and promote the show,
Speaker 2: and it's been like a rite of passage. So many
Speaker 2: people have passed through there, so it's definitely been an
Speaker 2: iconic touchstone in entertainment for years