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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we do it? Well, that's good.

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Speaker 2: Us two, our number two here on a Wednesday, as

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Speaker 2: we are going to continue talking about playoff pictures around

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Speaker 2: the National Football League before we get into some college football,

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Speaker 2: college quarterback, college prospects, NFL draft talk here when we

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Speaker 2: go around campus, and of course we will catch up

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Speaker 2: with our buddy Chris Hallick for all the latest moving

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Speaker 2: and shaking on a busy twenty four hours for the Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it relates to their story. Yeah, so, Matt, we talked

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Speaker 2: AFC playoff picture in the previous segment. Let's spin the

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Speaker 2: block to the NFC side of things. Here. The Bears

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Speaker 2: the current one seed via a tiebreaker over the Rams.

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Speaker 2: But it is funny despite being the one seed, I mean,

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Speaker 2: their playoff odds are much lower than a lot of

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Speaker 2: these teams. But the NFC picture is not as convoluted

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Speaker 2: as it's a little more chiseled in stone at this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that road's narrower, you know, in terms of

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Speaker 3: who's out there. What's crazy about the Bears is way

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Speaker 3: in the Packers. Is they played two of the next

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Speaker 3: three weeks, they play this week. It's awesome in between,

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Speaker 3: and then they do it again.

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Speaker 2: It's very it's very AFC north of what is going on?

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Speaker 2: And uh that's I think. Did we talk about this

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Speaker 2: maybe was it yesterday or a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 2: where like the NFL's figured out a lot of a

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Speaker 2: lot of smart business decisions.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Now I don't always love it, agree,

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Speaker 3: like especially that was two years ago when the Steelers

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Speaker 3: had all their AFC norse stuff.

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Speaker 2: Lately lately, yeah, last six games, eight games of the year.

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Speaker 3: A little more spread out.

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Speaker 2: I would too, But I also from the NFL's perspective,

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Speaker 2: you put the rivalry games at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: That keeps everybody's attention. You add the seventh seed in

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Speaker 2: the extra regular season game, that keeps everybody in the

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Speaker 2: hunt longer. You're still selling tickets, you're still selling merch

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Speaker 2: parking passes, getting people to tune in and watch.

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Speaker 3: I mean Thanksgiving Black Friday, we're eight pretty premium teams

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Speaker 3: and really good games. Now, they probably have tried that

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Speaker 3: in years past and it doesn't work. Burrows hurt or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know, Sure, but it worked out where all of

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Speaker 3: them mattered a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yes they did. You know Dallas and Detroit a Conna

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Speaker 2: be out there, Yes, and so they listen. The NFL

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Speaker 2: is not a a billion dollar enterprise for no reason.

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Speaker 2: They've got to figure it out. And while it might

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Speaker 2: not be always the greatest from our perspective, it is

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Speaker 2: what's best for business and that's what the Shield is

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Speaker 2: always going to do. And they have certainly mastered that

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Speaker 2: over the last handful of years with the schedule and

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Speaker 2: the way it's laid out. Oh yeah, the Bears currently

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Speaker 2: the one seed, seventy six percent chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They have the Packers this week? Is that right? Is it?

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Speaker 2: The first ones this week? Yeh?

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Speaker 3: This week and then the game in between, and then

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Speaker 3: do it again in the following week.

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Speaker 2: So if the Bears win, their chance to make the

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Speaker 2: playoffs goes all the way up to ninety three percent.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: If they lose, it only drops a few percentage to seventy.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it hurts them as bad as

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Speaker 3: you think.

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Speaker 2: They've got some good time breakers they do in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Ten percent chance at the one seed for the Bears.

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Speaker 3: So super quick, We're gonna mention a mock draft, and

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Speaker 3: if the draft was held today, the Patriots would pick

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Speaker 3: thirty two and the Bears would pick thirty one. I mean,

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Speaker 3: who had that on their dance card? You know what

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Speaker 2: Like when you lay it out like that, nobody had that.

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Speaker 3: Nobody had that on their dance card. Wow.

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Speaker 2: You know, in fact, if you would have said probably

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Speaker 3: A one one of the thirties, be like, no way.

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Speaker 2: What were you drinking before you came on that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know these one are going to go to

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Speaker 2: But sure as of right now, way ahead of yea,

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Speaker 2: ahead of oh, exactly ahead of where they thought they'd be.

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Speaker 2: Rams The two seed ninety six percent chance to make

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Speaker 2: Lock them up, and they have the best odds at

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Speaker 3: And they lost last week, but I don't care. You know,

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Speaker 2: Number three, the Philadelphia Eagles ninety five percent chance to

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Speaker 2: real kicker for Philly is they've only got a nine

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Speaker 2: behind the Rams, behind the Seahawks, behind the Bears, and

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Speaker 3: Even the Niners are really interesting. We'll get them in

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Speaker 3: a minute, but I mean, the best in Philly is

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Speaker 3: like they're basically some of these teams are basically locked

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, speaking of division winners, the Bucks the

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Speaker 2: on Carolina right now, eighty four percent chance to make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, eighty eight percent if they win, only drops

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Speaker 2: to seventy four percent if they lose. Basically, no chance

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Speaker 2: to be a one seed.

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Speaker 3: No chance to be one, right, But they should be

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Speaker 2: I think they should. Like I was just about to say,

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Speaker 2: it's weird because I'm fairly confident that the Bucks will

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Speaker 3: To the playoffs, but they could stumble.

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Speaker 2: But they could stumble and Carolina is not going away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some good news today when it just makes me

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Speaker 3: happy as a fan too. Mike Evans window is open,

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Speaker 3: yes too, love that. And Irving Bucky Irving's back. Godwin's

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Speaker 3: treading the right direction.

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Speaker 2: They could do one of those proverbial like limp into

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Speaker 3: And be dangerous, but then be dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like if you're Seattle and you got to

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Speaker 2: go there for the first round for that four or

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Speaker 3: And they've had some playoff success the last year.

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Speaker 2: They sure have. They've been for five straight years. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're familiar with what it takes.

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Speaker 3: Which quarterback or used to it? Yeah, you know right.

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Speaker 2: Number five is those Seattle Seahawks locked in. The only

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Speaker 2: two seed. Ninety three percent chance to make the playoffs

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Speaker 2: only falls to eighty five if they were to lose

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Speaker 2: this weekend twenty two percent second best odds at a

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Speaker 2: one seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: They still have the rams, which is huge for them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I do think it'll be one of those

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Speaker 2: two that ends up with the one seed. Seattle or La.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, and you mentioned this a lot rightfully. So if

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Speaker 3: they are second division, they're great on the road on

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Speaker 3: the East Coast. Yeah, oh, we gotta go to Philly,

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Speaker 3: we gotta go to Tampa. Probably go to Tampa.

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Speaker 2: They'll probably go to Tampa.

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Speaker 3: THEYD probably favored.

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Speaker 2: And I think they definitely would be as much as

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Speaker 2: they might not want to see Tampa if they can

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Speaker 2: help at the right time. Tampa definitely wouldn't want to

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Speaker 2: see that team rolling out of town. Wild Part Weekend

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Speaker 2: six is the Bears. At eight three and one, they're

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Speaker 2: pretty locked into eighty nine percent chance to make the playoff.

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Speaker 2: Like of all the teams in the Bears. You know

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Speaker 2: what's hilarious, the Bears have the of.

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Speaker 3: Although we talked about the Bears, are we did one seed? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of all the teams in the NFC. This is

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Speaker 2: what's hilarious though, because the Bears currently are the one

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Speaker 2: seed playoffs started today, they'd have the first round by

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Speaker 2: but of all the seven teams in the A or

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Speaker 2: in the NFC playoff picture right now, they have the

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Speaker 2: lowest odds to make it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I bet because they have a tough schedule, they

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Speaker 3: might not win the division.

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Speaker 2: Might not win the division. I mean the Packers are

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Speaker 2: only a half game back. Yeah, with that overtime, with.

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Speaker 3: That tie beam this week.

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Speaker 2: So like the Packers have an eighty nine percent chance

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Speaker 2: is the sixth seed, the Niners have a ninety percent

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Speaker 2: chances the seven seed. Bears are the one seed and

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Speaker 2: only have a seventy six percent chance. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: funny in that regard. But green Bay twelve percent chance

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Speaker 2: to get a one seed even if they were to

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Speaker 2: fall again, still seventy five percent chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: They're going in pretty good shape. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And another team who I think is definitely the Are.

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Speaker 3: You saying the Packers have the best chance in the

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Speaker 3: North to go to the playoffs? What are the Bears? No?

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Speaker 2: Just to go to the playoffs? The Bears seventy six percent,

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Speaker 2: sent the Packers eighty nine percent.

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Speaker 3: Okay, as it sits today, what's in front of them?

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Speaker 3: Green Bay is a better chance to be in the

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Speaker 3: postseason in Chicago, yes, okay.

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Speaker 2: And a better chance at the one seed too, according

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Speaker 3: Even though the Bears are currently the one seed.

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Speaker 2: Even though the Bears are currently the one seed, yes, Now,

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Speaker 2: if the Bears were to win on Sunday offsting on it,

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Speaker 2: they could lose two weeks from now, right. But what's

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Speaker 2: hilarious too, Despite being the seven seed, the forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers last one in, still a ninety chance to make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. No factor this week because they're on their by.

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Speaker 3: There is though, because they benefit greatly by either the

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Speaker 3: Packers or Bears losing. Sure, so they get the short home.

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Speaker 3: They improve their stock this week no matter what by

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Speaker 3: sitting home, my co hosts explained to Tom good place

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Speaker 3: to be guy. Yeah, he's like they're going to be

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Speaker 3: in a better spot for the playoffs despite not playing. Wow,

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Speaker 3: which is pretty cool. You're just sitting there rest everybody

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Speaker 3: in the latest bye week of the year.

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Speaker 2: You know it's bought to be.

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Speaker 3: They're in nice shape. They're going, yeah, it's almost impossible.

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Speaker 3: The three teams in the West are going. Yes, I

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Speaker 3: mean you can lock that up almost, which doesn't leave much.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't leave much. And here's what the here's what it

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Speaker 2: looks like now for the quote unquote bubble teams, if

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Speaker 2: you will. The Detroit Lions eight set at seven and five.

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Speaker 3: They should be very worried.

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Speaker 2: Forty just a forty three percent chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, I mean, we'll talk about

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Speaker 3: the Thursday night or on Thursday, but there's a big

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Speaker 3: chance they lose to.

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Speaker 2: Dallas absolutely, even with it being at home.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're three point favorites, but that's far from

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Speaker 3: the loss.

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Speaker 2: And let's as we kind of paint this picture, let's

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Speaker 2: bring Dallas into the equation here.

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Speaker 3: See, I think Dallas and Cincinnati are similar to me.

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Speaker 3: I think Dallas is better than Cincinnati. But if Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: could have like traded for Flacco two weeks earlier, or

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Speaker 3: if Dallas trades for Quinn Williams two weeks earlier, like.

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Speaker 3: They still they both place. Get this, that's huge.

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Speaker 2: Two of the last three weeks of the season they play.

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Speaker 2: You want to guess as we sit here today, and

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Speaker 2: You want to guess how many teams have been mathematically

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Speaker 3: I guess Browns could still win the division if some

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Speaker 3: So how many do you say? Five are total?

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven teams mathematically could still make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Like that's nuts. And that's exactly what the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Just makes the math done that a lot more complex,

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Speaker 2: That basically will help them with their tie breakers.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's why they were I was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mathematician, Matt, let's go around campus when we return

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Speaker 2: It's time to go around campus here as we are

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Speaker 2: And with that, Matt, we're gonna go around campus here

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Speaker 2: Dame Brugler. He is the he's the lead draft expert

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you've heard Dane on our shows. During the

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Speaker 2: I think NFL draft guide every single year if you're

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Speaker 2: And you and I, I think, over the last three four

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Speaker 3: But I watched a lot of arch I've watched them

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00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 3: here and there. Yeah, you know, and I'll study them more,

442
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 3: of course. But the answer to your question, what did

443
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 3: you see? Extreme talent? Traits the best I've seen of

444
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 3: any of these guys. I mean, Mendoza's really impressive, but

445
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: he's not the traitsiest first overall pick I've ever seen,

446
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: by any stretch. I mean, actually probably the low end

447
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 3: as first overall picks go. Manning is such an athlete,

448
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 3: and I don't mean just because he's fast and runs well.

449
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 3: He's so balanced and his body type and his strength

450
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 3: it's impressively. I heard people talking about his core strength

451
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 3: and you can see that on the field, and his

452
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 3: arm angles and his ability to throw the football a

453
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: multitude a ways and a lot of different layers. And frankly,

454
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: if he came out, how do the Saints or the

455
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: Raiders not hate him, and who we kidd'ing if his

456
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 3: last name was Jueler or Williamson too, maybe it wouldn't be.

457
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: But the owners are gonna have a lot of impact

458
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: with who's the first overall.

459
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 2: Pick, especially if it's the Saints involved.

460
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 3: Right, the last time they took a quarterback in round

461
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 3: one was his grandpappy, which is nuts, you know, But

462
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 3: if I'm the Saints, I'd give up everything the play

463
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: hat to go to one from three or whatever you

464
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 3: get them right, you know.

465
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: Which wouldn't be you know, probably your your third overall

466
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: pick and your first pick from next year.

467
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, And the seats would never be empty

468
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 3: in New Orleans again too. But again there's just a

469
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 3: safeness of I don't want to miss on my first

470
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: overall pick, and the chances of him missing is a Manning.

471
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 3: And maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but he's extremely talented and

472
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: he's a Manning. I guess it is the short answer

473
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: that to me screams first overall pick like it did

474
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 3: a year ago.

475
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 5: Hit.

476
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean, his traits are undeniable. Yeah, the size, the athleticism,

477
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: the arm strength, I mean, he's the quarterback that you build.

478
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: On Matten yeah, exactly exactly.

479
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: And while there's a lot of quarterbacks to like in

480
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: this draft class, there's no Trevor Lawrence nailed on this

481
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: guy is There's no Andrew luck nailed on this guy,

482
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 2: No cam Ward nailed on this guy is going to

483
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: be the first pick.

484
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 3: Yeah. The kind of way I looked at it was

485
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to put like saying in there yet. Yeah,

486
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 3: I mean the guys that could come out this year,

487
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 3: how many of them could be a first ballot Hall

488
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 3: of Famer arch? You know what I mean? The stars.

489
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: It's like you could be as good as Peyton Manning

490
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: in not the same style, but you could have as

491
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: good a career.

492
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: As Aaron Rodgers.

493
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, Arch Arch, I mean others could hit it, you know,

494
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: sellers could put all together. But like if you the

495
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 3: bet on one that goes to the Hall of Fame,

496
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 3: not like an occasional Pro Bowl or wins a Super

497
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 3: Bowl here and there, but like it's an all time great,

498
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 3: I'm putting my chip on that guy, I think, And

499
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,719
Speaker 3: that's what That's what I'm shooting for.

500
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: And you think much more like a scout in these

501
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: exercises than I do, just because yeah.

502
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just know what people are looking for. I

503
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: can't not take that guy. Yes, I mean when it

504
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: comes down to it and I am on the clock

505
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: or I've finally made my decision, and boy, this dude

506
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: from Indiana, it's a nice player, really like Mendoza'd love

507
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 3: talking to or Shy Floor. But what if I gotta

508
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 3: play against arch for the next twelve years and I

509
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: didn't take him. You know, I want that guy.

510
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: That's a great point. According to Dane Brugler, arch Manning

511
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: still seems likely to return to school next season, but

512
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: he could shake up the twenty twenty six draft class

513
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: by turning pro. A lot to watch going on there

514
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: in Texas. What happens with his head coach Sark, who's

515
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 2: been rumored around some NFL jobs, will play it. We'll

516
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: play into this. But you know, if it's a money thing,

517
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: I'm sure Texas will find a way too, Yeah, to

518
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: make him happy or to make him hold.

519
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 3: But if he gets word that he could be one,

520
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 3: you at least got it strongly considered it. Heck yeah, right,

521
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: heck yeah.

522
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: So here's what Dane had as four.

523
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: Titans have the first overall pick if it was today, Yes.

524
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: But what Dane has is the Browns packaging they're two

525
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six first rounders to move up to get

526
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: Tennessee's number one pick.

527
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: Which would be is a huge win for Tennessee.

528
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: Massive win for Tennessee. And it would make sense for

529
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: if you're Cleveland and you have the sixth pick and

530
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: the twenty sixth.

531
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 3: Pick the Jags pick.

532
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, let's say six and twenty five. Yeah yeah, like, yeah,

533
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: give me one. Let me go get my quarterback of choice.

534
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

535
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: And then from Tennessee's standpoint, it's like, we don't need

536
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: the quarterback.

537
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: Heck, yeah, we need everything else, right, Give men that

538
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 3: rusher and a no lineman or receivers, give you one on.

539
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: Each side of the trenches.

540
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

541
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

542
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: So he has Cleveland trading up with Tennessee first overall

543
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: two draft the aforementioned Fernando Mendoz, a quarterback out of Indiana.

544
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 3: I would totally get that.

545
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: I would too.

546
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 3: I wouldn't bat nye if if if you told me

547
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: that Mendoz is gonna be the first pick in.

548
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: The draft, wouldn't shock me, Jock. He has the Raiders

549
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: jumping up a few spots from four to two to

550
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 2: leap the Saints to draft Daunte More, quarterback from Oregon.

551
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: Okay, now, I would not love either one's chances of

552
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: being successful.

553
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: In their scenario.

554
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 3: In those two scenarios, I mean, the Browns just there's

555
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: not much around him. But the Raiders in particular, Raiders

556
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: and Saints to me, have miserable rosters, like I would

557
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: strongly consider if I'm either one of those teams building

558
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: the nest first.

559
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: You know, that's my thing? Is like Vegas isn't a

560
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: weird spot in that conversation, because hey, I think any

561
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: young quarterback just okay, we're gonna give you Brock Bauers

562
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: and Ashton Genty, you'd be like, sweet, that's a good sign.

563
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 2: But the offensive line might be the worst in the NFL.

564
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: Although I think part of that's coaching. But I mean

565
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: because it was starting to show signs until this regime

566
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: took over, So maybe they'd maximize their talent more. Maybe,

567
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: But the Saints, I mean, like when you look at

568
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 3: gentiean Bowers are the best examples, But if you look

569
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: at the Saints roster and the Raiders roster and say,

570
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: who are my real building blocks, they're the fewest in

571
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: the League agreed. Yeah, I mean, like, who's gonna be

572
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: here in five years with my quarterback? You know, like

573
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: you might need more of them.

574
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: First, Like if I'm Vegas, stay at four, give me

575
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: the best offensive lineman in the draft, and then I'll

576
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: worry about my quarterback next.

577
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: Year, maybe because I know I'm gonna be bad no

578
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 3: matter what next year. And there's no chance either one

579
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 3: of those teams is good. No chance which to me,

580
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: we get to pick three, the Saints don't take a quarterback,

581
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: I'd give Shuck another year. Maybe absolutely, you know what

582
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: I mean? They except I don't love these position players

583
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: at the top, and I have to do more homework,

584
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: like I want Miles Garrett, I want Beselli or Pace,

585
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: you know, like some of these these other guys. Yes,

586
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: the blue Chippers to me aren't great in this class.

587
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: Who's the best receiver, who's the best tackle? You know what?

588
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: It's funny because it's rare guy, They're they're weird to evaluate.

589
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: So like, for example, he has Rvel Reese from Ohio

590
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 2: State going third. He though he could be so and

591
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: you know I hate this. I when when you and

592
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: I are at the combine in February I'll say the

593
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: same thing again five times. I hate it when here

594
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: comes a power hitting right fielder and everyone's like, he's

595
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: the next Aaron Judge.

596
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: You know, like, right, the Micah Parsons thing is gonna be.

597
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: Here comes up. Here comes a great shooting guard, point guard,

598
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: and he's the next Steph Curry, like, let's compare everybody

599
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: to the greatest. Makes me crazy because it's like.

600
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: Joke about it football. I'm like, oh, it kind of

601
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: reminds me of Jim Brown.

602
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: You're really yeah, You're you're like really really really putting

603
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on this guy.

604
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he's a bust if he's not as

605
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: good as Michael Parsons, come.

606
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 2: On exactly right, exactly right. But reminds me of Michaeh. Parson.

607
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: He can play on the edge, you can play off ball,

608
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: you can move them all around. He's an athletic freak.

609
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: He can bend and overpower you on the edge, you

610
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: can run with you in the middle of the field.

611
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: He I think he's what I've been and I can't

612
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: wait to watch Saturday. I think they have the two

613
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: best defensive players with early from what I've seen of Reese,

614
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: I think he's a better prospect than Parsons was. Now,

615
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 3: remember if Parsons sat a year because of Coca and

616
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: he played a lot off the ball stuff, mostly off

617
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: the mostly off the ball stuff. But in terms of

618
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: what they were like on their draft day, I prefer Reese.

619
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean to be as.

620
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: Good, sure, you know, sure, I need you to.

621
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: If he goes third overall, he should send my fruit

622
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: basket to though.

623
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I need you to watch some Reuben Bain tape.

624
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: The edge rusher I have from Miami.

625
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: I watched a lot of Miami pit. I've seen Miami

626
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: a couple of times. I think he's very good. These

627
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: guys have been special to me though, except for maybe

628
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: Reese and Downs, you know, like the the other they're

629
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: just the blue chip talents here to me. Aren't blow

630
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: my doors off. But I'll be honest, I do this

631
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: every year. I used to joke with Dale this time

632
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: of year, I'm usually a little down on the class,

633
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: and then I start digging in and I warm up

634
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: these guys more for sure, you know, right right?

635
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: I really I maybe kind of similar to last year.

636
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: The top two, three, four, five picks don't blow me away.

637
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I don't see Jamar Chase behind that.

638
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: I love it. From like five to fifteen, I love it.

639
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: Oh good, I love that second tier.

640
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: That's cool. Like again, like I don't see alt or Seoul,

641
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

642
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, Yeah, yeah, I think.

643
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: These are no brainer, but I preum position.

644
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: Like for example, he's got Caleb Downs going tenth to

645
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: the Bengals. Caleb Downs at pick ten would be outstanding.

646
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's all just based We did a whole

647
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: segment on this on the podcast today, like love Downs

648
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: and Sidiq the tight end from Oregon at all to

649
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: me really premium prospects, but they're kind of like gent

650
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: and Hamilton. What are you gonna pay for a running back?

651
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: A tight end or you know Bowers? Yeah, you know,

652
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: like they're all premium prospects, but their position is why

653
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: they fall. Hamilton was a fourteenth pick of the draft.

654
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: Let's kind of like run because we got just a

655
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: couple of minutes here until we got to get to

656
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: our buddy Chris.

657
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: Hallick and rat yourst question for you on this too.

658
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Speaker 2: Okay, Carnel Tait, first wide receiver off the board at

659
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Speaker 2: four for the Giants, could certainly happen. I prefer Jordan

660
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Speaker 2: Tyson from Arizona State, but he has him going seventh,

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Speaker 2: so just a few picks later.

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Speaker 3: It's another thing. It's like the receivers are all good.

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Speaker 3: It looks like a very good receiver class and this

664
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Speaker 3: could be very steel irrelevant, but there's not one.

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Speaker 2: There's Chase yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but I think them

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Speaker 2: a couple like Tech McMillan's yes, exactly. Ruben Bain, who

667
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Speaker 2: I mentioned to you, the edge rusher from the U

668
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: he goes six to the Commanders. Get this, Matt. Then

669
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Speaker 2: a trio of players who I all saw in the

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Speaker 2: Big Twelve have their way with my Mountaineers. Jordan Tyson

671
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: seven to the Jets, although he didn't play in that

672
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: game he was injured. The wide receiver from Arizona State,

673
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Speaker 2: David Bailey, the edge rusher from Texas Tech, who I

674
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: think is sick, to the Arizona Cardinals at number eight.

675
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: And then Spencer Fanu from Utah. I know we talked

676
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Speaker 2: about him a few like a few months ago because

677
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: I saw both Utah tackles down in Morgantown and they

678
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: could both be first round picks. And Spencer Fanu becomes

679
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: the first offensive lineman off the board at pick nine

680
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: to the Rams. Caleb Downs ten to the Bengals. Jeremiah Love,

681
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Speaker 2: By the.

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00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: Way, if you're the Rams, the Rams end up with

683
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: a premium corner in a premium tackle this draft. I mean,

684
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Speaker 3: and they might win the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, you win the super Bowl

686
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: and then tackle the draft, get out of here. That

687
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: that's the kind of greed they speak about in.

688
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: The Bible there and that's how you do it.

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00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love eleven to the Vikings. That would be a

690
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: great pick for them. He might be the best thing.

691
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Speaker 2: He might be the best player in this draft.

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Speaker 3: I know, But I would hate it for the Vikes.

693
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: I would not take a running back with that quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well, I get what you're saying in terms of, like,

695
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: if this is the case, go get a quarterback, right right,

696
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: Dolphins take mansword Delaney, the outstanding corner from Lsu Kenyon Sadiku.

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00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: We talked about the tight end from Oregon replaces Travis

698
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: Kelcey and goes to Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: That would be a about right now. Kansas City picks twelve, right, thirteen, thirteen,

700
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: that's nuts right now?

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Speaker 2: The Steelers pick fourteen, and they have Dane has ty Simpson,

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Speaker 2: quarterback from Alabama.

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Speaker 3: That's why I was gonna ask you. You asked me

704
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Speaker 3: a lot of things. I don't ask you this. Would

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00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: you trade not knowing where the Steelers are gonna pick

706
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: on December third or whatever?

707
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Speaker 2: Ty Simpson?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you trade your first round pick right now

709
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Speaker 3: for ty Simpson.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when it comes down to it, you might

712
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Speaker 3: have to give up two first to get them.

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Speaker 2: Good exercise. Ask me again, like after the SEC Championships Monday. Yes,

714
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Speaker 2: and a couple of playoff games. But he's been trending.

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Speaker 2: If you would ask that a few weeks ago, I

716
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Speaker 2: might have said, yes, he's been trending in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 3: That's why I think it's interesting and trade the first round.

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Speaker 2: This point two for this exercise. The only two quarterbacks

719
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Speaker 2: off the board have been Mendoza and Dante. More So

720
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Speaker 2: I might say no, I'll take my chances on sellers

721
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Speaker 2: or like you know, whoever else.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a tough question.

723
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Speaker 2: Today, it's a tough question. Today, it's a fair question.

724
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Speaker 2: Today's definitely worth consideration. But I think I would lean

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Speaker 2: towards it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know you wouldn't trade this year's first

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Speaker 3: and next year's first for Simpson, I would not. Would

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Speaker 3: you do this year's first?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I'm leaning towards no, but I'm

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Speaker 2: like sixty forty no.

731
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Speaker 3: Because it's also a chance Steelers are picking in the

732
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Speaker 3: twenties too. They could sure, you know, you don't.

733
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Speaker 2: Know where they're and then it becomes a different conversation conversation, or.

734
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Speaker 3: They could lose out and they're picking eighth, and then

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Speaker 3: the picks more value, you know. I mean, there's a

736
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Speaker 3: lot that can happen.

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Speaker 2: That's like a good like if we could have Dame

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Speaker 2: Brugler on as a guest right now, I'd like to

739
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Speaker 2: ask him that, Yeah, if you would, if you were

740
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Speaker 2: the Steelers, would you give up your first round pick?

741
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Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm assuming he would if he has the

742
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Speaker 2: Steelers taking him at fourteen, he obviously feels pretty highly.

743
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Speaker 3: When we get the draft season, we're playing this game too.

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Speaker 3: Would you give up whenever we know where the Steelers

745
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: are picking and what this class?

746
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Speaker 2: I love this game?

747
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: Are we giving up this year's first and next year's

748
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: first for? Said NFL quarterback Josh Allen Y love this game.

749
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 3: Yeah what you're what you're shooting for? You know?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I like it. I love it. I want some

751
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: more of it. Only three quarterbacks in his first round,

752
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: mak Mendoza one more, two and then Simpson fourteen to

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Speaker 2: the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interest.

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Speaker 6: A lot of receivers, a lot of tackles, a lot

757
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 6: of edge A lot of tackles and a lot of

758
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 6: edge guys not uncommon, which, hey, I guess the receiver

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00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 6: department the Steelers I think could certainly use some reinforcements there.

760
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: They think some good corners in this draft too, which

761
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Speaker 2: depending on how Sante Samuel looks down the stretch, what

762
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: they think about Jalen Ramsey could certainly factor in as well.

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Speaker 2: Let's uh, I enjoyed this. This was a good change

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Speaker 2: place for a round.

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Speaker 3: Campus We'll buzz through.

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Speaker 2: We absolutely will, uh Matt. Let's go back to kind

767
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: of where we started, all this roster moving and shaking.

768
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: A lot going on for the Steelers. Let's talk about

769
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Speaker 2: all that and more with our buddy Chris Hallock on

770
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Speaker 2: the other side to close this thing down. We'll do

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Speaker 2: that when we return right here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: On the Steelers Audio Network, your.

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Speaker 1: Tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: To the phone lines. We go to wrap this thing up.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to our buddy Chris Halleck, of

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Speaker 2: course of dk Pittsburgh Sports and a regular here with

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Speaker 2: us on the Drive. Chris, thank you for taking time.

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Speaker 2: It's been a busy twenty four hours or so here

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Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I want to start with you.

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00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: In the secondary, Darius Slay released a Sante Samuel junior

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00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: promoted from the practice squad to the active roster. Is

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Speaker 2: it safe to say, Chris, because we know they're a

784
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: little fin in the secondary already, They've dealt with some

785
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: injuries there. They've had to move Jalen Ramsey to safety,

786
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: Pierre Is in the concussion protocol. Like, I know that

787
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: Darius Slay's play had regressed as of late, but I

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00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: think they also have to clearly have some confidence in

789
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Speaker 2: a Sante Samuel junior to make a move like this

790
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Speaker 2: and let Slay go at this juncture at the same time,

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Speaker 2: Is that fair to say?

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Speaker 3: And Chris? Along those lines, are we getting ahead of

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Speaker 3: ourselves if we say Samuel is a starter. M I

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Speaker 3: don't know if I'd go that far.

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Speaker 4: Just yeah, just now, he may be thrust into the

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Speaker 4: starting lineup if James Tarted is a pass concussion protocol

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Speaker 4: right right, we may we may be looking at at,

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Speaker 4: you know, Samuel as a starter.

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Speaker 3: That being said, I don't know if I'm.

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Speaker 4: Ready to go or just yet. Stewers really really like

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00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: what what gas Pierre has done and forgot. I mean,

802
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: he's he's played really well.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot to like on on what he's done.

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Speaker 7: No, I think right now that you would probably still

805
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 7: stick with Porter and Pierre on the outside as you're

806
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 7: as your two primary corners when you're in, whether it's face.

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00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: Or nickel or whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: But they clearly do to west to your point.

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Speaker 5: They clearly are comfortable enough with what Samuel has done

810
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 5: because as far as I as far as I know,

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Speaker 5: and what terror Lawson has said, they do view Samuel

812
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 5: as more of an option on the outside than in

813
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Speaker 5: the slot.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not saying he won't play in the flat or.

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Speaker 5: He he's forbidden playing the slot or anything like that, but.

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Speaker 3: It's not really as good.

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00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 5: Right exactly, So I do think you know, I don't

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00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 5: know if I quite said that he's ready to go

819
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Speaker 5: be a starter there just yet.

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Speaker 3: But maybe, you know, pears, you performance.

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Speaker 4: Slips a little bit and they really like what they

822
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: said from the Yeah, maybe maybe two starting corners right now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there there, Chris, we can still hear you.

824
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: We're getting like a wonky little connection here. Let me

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00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: call you back real quick. All right, sounds good. One

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Speaker 2: second here, partner, all right, let's do this. I really

827
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Speaker 2: enjoy producing the show on the fly myself. This is

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00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: this is where I gotta uh yeah, got it, Gotta

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Speaker 2: fill here for just a few seconds until we get

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Speaker 2: until we get our buddy Chris.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: We got him, Hey like you got us, buddy. Hey,

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00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: better now we're talking. Now, we're talking, all right, fantastic,

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Speaker 2: thanks dude.

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Speaker 3: What do you think Adam Thielen situation.

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Speaker 4: I think it's interesting, Listen. I I understand the the

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Speaker 4: the trepidation over what a what a receiver can do

838
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: at age thirty five, and we're talking almost any receiver

839
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Speaker 4: at age thirty five. The the list of receivers that

840
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: have had very very good productive seasons, you know, Pro

841
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Speaker 4: Bowl type seasons at that age. It's not a long list,

842
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 4: so I understand that. But the couple of things that

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00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: what it does provide is number one, it provides good leadership.

844
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Speaker 4: He was a leader for Minnesota. He was a captain

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Speaker 4: in Minnesota. That helps to have in that in that

846
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: in that locker room, you're not just relying on dk Metcalf.

847
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 4: Adam Tealan has some skins on the wall. So you know,

848
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: that's that's you know, something that guys can look at

849
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: when you know, when you were talking about Calvin As

850
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Speaker 4: and Roman Wilson, you know, some of the younger guys

851
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 4: who need to be you need to kind of learn

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Speaker 4: to see what what it means to go about, uh

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00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 4: you know, the weekly preparation. Uh, what what it means

854
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: to pay attention to details of routes and concepts everything

855
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: like that. You know that that definitely is something that

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00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 4: that it's a big benefit for having a guy like that.

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00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 4: But then again, I understand he didn't play much in

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Speaker 4: Minnesota this year, but at the same time, this is

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Speaker 4: still a guy who understands the game. He's a smart

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Speaker 4: football player. Him and Aaron Rodgers, while you know, obviously

861
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Speaker 4: you know, played against each other a lot, uh, you

862
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: know previously both being rivals in the in the NFC North.

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Speaker 4: You know, Aaron Rodgers talked about it today. He knows

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Speaker 4: Adam Fealen very well, He's familiar with him. I'm curious

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Speaker 4: to see how that off the field dynamic might translate

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Speaker 4: to things on the field, so it can't hurt at

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Speaker 4: this point that I think that's probably the best way

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Speaker 4: I could go about it, because right now, I think

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Speaker 4: if you look at all the issues on the offense

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Speaker 4: side of the ball, we can talk about run game,

871
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 4: we talk about, you know, personnel usage, all this stuff.

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest issue right now, more than anything,

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Speaker 4: is they just need somebody, anybody on the other like

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Speaker 4: somebody other that that's not named a DK Metcalf to

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Speaker 4: get open consistently. Because if once that happens, if it

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00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: does happen, but once that happens, whether it's Pat Friar

877
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 4: roots out of the tight end spot, whether it's Adam

878
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: Feeling coming in and running routes crisply and on time

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00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: and Aaron can find him, it lightens the load a

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00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: bit over on Metcalf where all the coverage is going

881
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 4: right now, and then that might also back teams off

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00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 4: from pretty much doing completely selling out to stop the run,

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00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: So that I think is the primary thing that needs

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00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: to happen to unlock things offensively.

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Speaker 2: I think that's well said, and I think we're all

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Speaker 2: kind of in agreement on that. It is Chris hallick

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Speaker 2: with us here on the drive on the Steelers Audio Network,

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00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: Chris sticking with the offense. How are you feeling about

889
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation? It sounds like Aaron Rodgers is going

890
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: to be good to go again on Sunday. Is there

891
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: any real merit to the conversation about, you know, a

892
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: healthy Mason Rudolph might be more viable than you know,

893
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: a compromised injured wrist Aaron Rodgers or do you kind

894
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: of like come down on the side of, Hey, if

895
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: this offense is gonna get where they need to be,

896
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be with the future Hall of Famer under center.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I understand you know the whole health thing.

898
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 4: I I don't think the risk is the is the

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00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: big issue right now. Yeah, you didn't run anything from

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00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 4: under center, But is really the the reason why the

901
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: Steelers didn't play well offensively because Aaron Rodgers didn't take

902
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 4: one stat from under center?

903
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: No, that's not.

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Speaker 4: That's not the main reason why. It's just it's not.

905
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: I mean, you can try to make that up and

906
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: you're trying to make it a narrative. That's just not

907
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 4: the reason. There are many reasons why, and one of

908
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: which we just talked about. There's nobody getting open outside

909
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 4: of DK Metcalf, and that's a that's a major problem

910
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 4: when it comes to listen, I'm having a hard time

911
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: trying to to put my finger on exactly the best

912
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 4: way to go about trying to Okay, let me start over.

913
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is a really really, really really smart quarterback.

914
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 4: He does not get enough credit. And I'm saying this

915
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: like knowing that people know how smart he is before

916
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: the snap, he still does not get enough credit for

917
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 4: everything that he does that does not go into a

918
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: box four. Yeah, Like he does so many things before

919
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: the snap, He does so many things on the sideline,

920
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: he does so many things between series. It's just there's

921
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: so much value there.

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00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: Now.

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00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: Does his play need to get better. Absolutely, his play

924
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: has not been where it needs to be over the

925
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 4: past few weeks. There have been some misthrows, there have

926
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 4: been some misreads. There have been some times where he

927
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 4: has gotten I almost say skittish, but he has gotten

928
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 4: into this whole. If my first reads there, I'm trying

929
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 4: to get out of the pocket and make a play

930
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 4: like that kind of stuff has to kind of stop.

931
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Speaker 4: But at the same time, I do think that if

932
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Speaker 4: you're going to go where you want to go with

933
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: this offense, you got to do it with your quarterback

934
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Speaker 4: that's going that you literally did designed to be your

935
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 4: starting quarterback, and so it's got If Aaron's healthy enough,

936
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Speaker 4: and right now he is, then he's got to be

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Speaker 4: the guy.

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Speaker 2: No easy answers, but our buddy Chris Hallick helping us

939
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Speaker 2: try and find some here with a lot of questions

940
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Speaker 2: for the Steelers heading into a huge one in Baltimore

941
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Speaker 2: this weekend. Chris, buddy, thank you for the time as always,

942
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: take care and we'll talk to you on Sunday.

943
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Speaker 3: All right, appreciate it.

944
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me guys.

945
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Speaker 2: Always, dude, thank you, And there he goes Chris Hallick

946
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Speaker 2: and Matt that'll do it for the show today.

947
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Speaker 3: Good stuff. We covered a lot.

948
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Speaker 2: Little clarity from him, but again still there's just more

949
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: a lot more questions than there are answers. Yeah, yeah,

950
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Speaker 2: we're going to start finding some of those out on Sunday,

951
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: but some of them might even continue to linger all

952
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Speaker 2: throughout the month of December.

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Speaker 3: I'm warming up to the corner situation a little bit

954
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: more and more too. I just think that reading the

955
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Speaker 3: tea leaves they must have some hope for Samuel, and

956
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Speaker 3: I also think Pierre is playing well and that's not fake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I think it's hard not to

958
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: feel that way about Samuel right now. And I know

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Speaker 2: we've said this, but I continue like I think the

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00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: last five six weeks Joey Porter Junior has been quietly

961
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: very good. Same withs same with Eckles.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: So if you can stabilize that final position nice, get

964
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Speaker 2: back to limiting the run game like you had been

965
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Speaker 2: doing until James Cook ran wild, I think you're going

966
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Speaker 2: to be in a much better spot. I know you're

967
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: going to be in a much better spot. So we'll

968
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Speaker 2: see if they can get that moving starting Sunday afternoon

969
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Speaker 2: against those rat birds. But that will do it for

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Speaker 2: us today. Thanks to Chris Hallick for joining us, and

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Speaker 2: thanks to our video producer mister TV Tyler V for

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Speaker 2: keeping us crisp and handsome and sharp on the YouTube

973
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Speaker 2: side of things as well. For Matt Williamson, I'm what Shuler.

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Speaker 2: Take care everybody, and we'll talk to you tomorrow. As always,

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Speaker 2: you know where to find us. It's on your twenty

976
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Speaker 2: four to seven home of the Black and Gold. It's

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network