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Speaker 1: Dirty Birds. What's up and welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle presented by Zaxby's. I'm your host Will

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Speaker 1: mcfadd and I'm joined as always by Tory mclaney and

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Speaker 1: Tarren Wack. The Falcons are looking to break their four

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Speaker 1: game losing streak on the road against the Las Vegas Raiders,

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Speaker 1: who have lost their last nine games. They're playing on

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football. But before we get into the football matchup,

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Speaker 1: just this game being out in Las Vegas. Have either

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Speaker 1: of y'all ever been to Vegas?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm looking forward to it first time. One of

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Speaker 2: our comms reps Jarvis Carter, it'll be his birthday while

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Speaker 2: we're out Vegas. Should have a little bit of fun,

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Speaker 2: not too much fun because we still have work to

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Speaker 2: do and it's a work trip, but a little bit

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Speaker 2: of fun. He should be celebrated. But I'm really excited

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 4: I have mixed emotions about, like my first trip being

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Speaker 4: to Vegas being a work trip, because it does it

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Speaker 4: does dim the lights a little.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in the grand scheme of things, that's

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Speaker 1: probably not how you envision it going.

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Speaker 2: But I am really excited to see the sphere. Y, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm really that, which is a weird thing to be

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Speaker 2: excited about, but like it's kind of become this thing

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Speaker 2: in pop.

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Speaker 1: Culture outside of Taylor, is there which artist would you

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Speaker 1: really want to see in this year?

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Speaker 2: I know that like Shania Twain did a Vegas residency

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Speaker 2: like not too long ago. I would love to see her,

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Speaker 2: or like any type of like pop princess like I

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Speaker 2: would love to see like Arian Grande, I would love

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Speaker 2: to which I don't think.

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Speaker 5: She's going back to music after Wicked, but like I

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Speaker 2: Brina Carpenter would bring the house down. Taylor left obviously

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Speaker 2: is number one, but I can't.

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Speaker 5: I can't. You took Taylor's option, She's.

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Speaker 1: The obvious number one. To bring it back to Shania

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Speaker 1: Twain real quick that either of y'all ever watch broad

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Speaker 1: City No so she There's like a running bit in

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Speaker 1: Shannaia ends up one time coming and a running excuse

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Speaker 1: for is that she can't make something because she's coaching

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Speaker 1: Shanaia's playing through her workout. So one time Shani actually

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Speaker 1: does show up. It's this whole episode and at one

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Speaker 1: point Shanaia is like, man, I feel lack is smoothie

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Speaker 1: and it is the cringiest, even cringier than what I

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Speaker 5: And that was pretty cringe.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I love Shanaia.

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Speaker 3: She was Shania Twain to convince story to come out

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Speaker 3: last weekend.

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Speaker 1: She did. She did, everybody.

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Speaker 5: Did.

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Speaker 3: Only sent that song and I was like, well, just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, You'll get ready to go have a couple drinks.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, no, I'm in my Christmas pajamas

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Speaker 2: and I'm watching Love.

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Speaker 5: Actually I'm not getting out of my count just shot.

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Speaker 1: What are you? Are you guys excited to see Allegiant Stadium?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have so I will say.

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Speaker 2: I will say, And this is completely after but after

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Speaker 2: going up to US Bank Stadium in Minnesota, that was

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Speaker 2: one of the best, I think professional game environments that

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Speaker 5: That was really cool. The stadium was really awesome. Their

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Speaker 5: whole lore.

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Speaker 2: Of like Skull and the Vikings, fake snow was fake snow.

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Speaker 2: It was my favorite experience that I've had at an

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Speaker 4: We were blessed too, with the second highest attendance in

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Speaker 4: that stadium's history.

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Speaker 1: Really, I have to imagine the first would have been

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Speaker 1: the very first game.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, but I can assume so.

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Speaker 5: But it was.

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Speaker 2: It was packed, and it was so loud a couple

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Speaker 3: It was insane despite the game going out.

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Speaker 1: They yeah, right, all pre game, Yeah, really cool everything

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Speaker 1: everything up until the fourth quarter. Let's let's be real,

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Speaker 4: When the Falcons did score, it got noticeably quiet. It

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Speaker 4: now I can hear pin drop.

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Speaker 2: Well, like when Tyler Algers spiked the ball in the

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Speaker 1: You ask athletes sometimes and whether they would like make

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Speaker 1: a crazy play at home on the road, and some

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Speaker 1: are like, no, there's nothing better than the deafening silence

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Speaker 1: when you're in somebody else's house and you make the

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Speaker 1: an even better feeling than you know, making the play

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Speaker 1: and how they just like rip the joy out of

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Speaker 1: other people. Right, So, I I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: guys are going to get the exact same type of

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Speaker 1: experience and environment at Allegiance Stadium this week right with

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Speaker 1: the two and eleven Las Vegas Raiders. But honestly, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't even matter. I think so much about the opponent

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Speaker 1: in this one, as it has been for the last

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Speaker 1: four weeks. This one comes down to the Falcons, and

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Speaker 1: once again a lot of the conversation centers around the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position. And so you know, Tarin your at Reheim's

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Speaker 1: press conference today talked a lot about Kirk. What was

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Speaker 1: kind of the gist that you got from him?

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Speaker 4: He said the same thing he said Monday, and the

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Speaker 4: same thing he said Sunday. Kirk Cousins is the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 4: There's no if, ans or butts right now.

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Speaker 2: I think to the point of him kind of saying like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Kirk has gotten us to this point and that's a

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Speaker 2: reason why we're sticking with him. Has kind of been

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Speaker 2: his calling card of the last few press conferences. To

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Speaker 2: play Devil's advocate, you're also in game back year a

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Speaker 2: game back. You're also in the position that you are

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Speaker 2: because you haven't gotten what you needed to out of

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Speaker 2: this offense over the last four or five weeks, not

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Speaker 2: counting the byway, especially in the zone, especially in the

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Speaker 2: of that. Turnovers, to me have been kind of the

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Speaker 2: story that I've stuck with this week. And I'll say

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Speaker 2: this too, the turnover issue of the Falcons is an

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Speaker 2: organizational issue. It's it's a team wide issue. It's not

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Speaker 2: just on Kirk Cousins. Now, granted, should Kirk Cousins be

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Speaker 2: throwing the interceptions that he is when he is a

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Speaker 2: a I think Kirk would agree with me. I think

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Speaker 2: everyone would agree with me. Some of the interceptions have

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Speaker 2: context of turnovers being a team problem, it's not just

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Speaker 2: a Kirk problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think the biggest turnover of the Vikings

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the special teams play, and then you

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Speaker 2: also the other side of the coin is while Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins is giving the ball up at a significant rate

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Speaker 2: over the last month and a half, the defense simultaneously

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Speaker 2: they looked in pass rush against Sam Darnold against the Vikings,

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Speaker 2: and I just kind of am sitting here being like,

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Speaker 2: you still need more from the from the defense, and

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Speaker 2: you can't just sit here and put everything on Kirk.

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Speaker 2: You can put a lot of it on Kirk because

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Speaker 2: these interceptions are what they are, but you can't. It's

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Speaker 2: an offense, defense and special teams problem. These turnovers, and

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Speaker 2: when you're in these games, in their one score games,

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Speaker 2: as the NFL prides itself on being, possessions are at

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Speaker 2: a premium anyways. So when you're giving up possessions via

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Speaker 2: not getting more possessions when you're in one score games,

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Speaker 2: like that's an absolute like cause and effect. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: the Falcons overall this year have given them ball up

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Speaker 2: twenty times and they've only taken it away eleven times,

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Speaker 2: and the I mean it's big two to one in

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Speaker 1: It's why Nate Landman this week, you know, and talking

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Speaker 1: to the media on Monday, said it was the number

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Speaker 1: one priority for them, you know, down the stretch. Like

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Speaker 1: you said, they have not been creating the takeaways defensively

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Speaker 1: to earn those extra possessions for the offense. It's ironic

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Speaker 1: a little bit that they are kind of winning time

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Speaker 1: you know, I think they would they would be totally

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Speaker 1: fine losing time possession as long as they were scoring

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Speaker 1: missing a little bit. And again a lot of it

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Speaker 1: can circle back to the quarterback position, but to your

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing is, I'm not making an excuse

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Speaker 2: for Kirk and saying this either no, like you expect.

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Speaker 2: Both can be true, Both can be true simultaneously. You

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Speaker 2: can be wanting and needing more from Kirk Cousins, but

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Speaker 2: you can also be wanting and needing more from the

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Speaker 2: defense as well. And I want to make that perfectly clear.

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Speaker 2: This is this is not me kind of just like

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Speaker 2: carrying water and being like, oh, like the falcons just

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Speaker 2: like they're going to continue to throw Kirk Cousins out there, like, no,

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Speaker 2: you need more from him, point blank, period. And but

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Speaker 2: again other side of the coin, you need more from

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were. One of the things that Raheem said

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Speaker 1: during his press conference today, you know, is that he's

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Speaker 1: had some stretches before in his career where he's gone

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Speaker 1: through things like this, whether it was four games, whether

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Speaker 1: bounce back previously. So I kind of looked through Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Reference to just see, Okay, what are some of

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Speaker 1: these stretches before. I don't know if there's been one.

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Speaker 1: It is quite this long to this degree, right, And

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Speaker 1: that's why we've kind of been saying this is arguably

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Speaker 1: the worst stretch of Kirk's career. But in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: which was his first I think full season as a starter,

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Speaker 1: he didn't get off to a great start. He had

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Speaker 1: a lot of them. But then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: he had three touchdowns, zero pick, one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: four point seven passer rating. Then he had a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the story Taron, of Kirk Cousins throughout his career.

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Speaker 6: You lead an organization, and you got to have trust

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Speaker 2: I understand the fan base is tenor on all of this.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean, any decision that could be made will

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Speaker 3: For the playoffs zero percent, there.

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Speaker 4: I would if you're deciding now that you're gonna fully

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Speaker 4: there's only four games left, I don't know what good

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Speaker 4: I just wouldn't like if you're sticking to it, you

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Speaker 1: And we've got this plan that is going to take

440
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Speaker 1: the lead by storm, and you don't want to unveil

441
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Speaker 1: that early. That's the only argument against it.

442
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Speaker 4: Next season matters, because if you just put Panics in

443
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Speaker 4: for like a game or two, but then you play

444
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Speaker 4: Kirk week one next season, that's the same thing as

445
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Speaker 4: putting him in now and then playing Kirk again later.

446
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Speaker 1: Here's not necessarily because the playoffs. At this point, you're out.

447
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Speaker 3: Of the playoff contention.

448
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Speaker 2: Like I think my biggest thing is is like looking

449
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Speaker 2: at the if you're looking at the future and there

450
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Speaker 2: is this grand plan for Michael Pennis personally, what why

451
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Speaker 2: do you feel so strong Maybe this is a question

452
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Speaker 2: that I ask Raheem Morris. I wasn't in the press

453
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Speaker 2: converse today because I was with Fox, so I was

454
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Speaker 2: in a different location, But like, maybe it's something where

455
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Speaker 2: you ask, why do you feel so strongly about this

456
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Speaker 2: plan in place for Mike Pinix?

457
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Speaker 5: What is I mean?

458
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Speaker 2: I guess you don't have to get into the nitty

459
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Speaker 2: gritty if.

460
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Speaker 3: You want to ask today about the plan.

461
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Speaker 5: Like what it is and why he believes in it?

462
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the plan was he is the future

463
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Speaker 3: and but no, like.

464
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Speaker 2: Not specific, like not in a generic like way like

465
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Speaker 2: the whole thing that they've been saying since they drafted.

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Speaker 4: Continue answer, But yeah, he went on to say, like

467
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Speaker 4: he's the future. The reason we did this is because

468
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Speaker 4: we have an idea of what we want from him

469
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Speaker 4: in the future and whatnot. Like he didn't get into

470
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Speaker 4: nitty gritty and stuff like that. But he was also

471
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Speaker 4: then questioned like, so if you put him in now,

472
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Speaker 4: does that mess with his development? And that was kind

473
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Speaker 4: of I think what's holding them back from implementing said

474
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Speaker 4: plan now? And he's like, I don't know, and I

475
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Speaker 4: don't think they're willing to take that risk if it

476
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Speaker 4: messes with his development. So they want him to take

477
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Speaker 4: this whole season, it seems to learn to grow to

478
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Speaker 4: see maybe how Kirk does handle the rest of it

479
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Speaker 4: for his future developed development.

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Speaker 1: Meaning like, all right, if he goes in and he

481
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Speaker 1: throws three picks in his first game, Yeah, you don't

482
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Speaker 1: want to ruin a player's confidence. But if you look

483
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Speaker 1: back at Patrick Mahomes, who like Patrick Mallhomes, Jordan Love,

484
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Speaker 1: all these players that everybody likes to point to about, like,

485
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Speaker 1: that's how you do it. Patrick Mahomes got to start

486
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Speaker 1: late in that year because the Chiefs had already wrapped

487
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Speaker 1: up a playoff spot, right, Like different circumstance. But I

488
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Speaker 1: do think that one game from Patrick Mahomes did benefit

489
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Speaker 1: him and the team overall to kind of see him

490
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Speaker 1: out there. So that's where to Tory's earlier point, If

491
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Speaker 1: they're out of contention, then I think the math changes

492
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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So who do you think, like, when you're kind of

494
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Speaker 2: looking at it, I think the elephant in the room

495
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Speaker 2: here of this entire decision is Kirk Cousins contract yea,

496
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Speaker 2: and it is how much money is being paid to

497
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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. I think when you look at the scenarios

498
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Speaker 2: of green Bay and the Chiefs, which is oftentimes the

499
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Speaker 2: scenario and the base point or the foundational point of

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Speaker 2: which I think this front office has looked to, and

501
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Speaker 2: they're certainly the most success the most successful, and they've

502
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Speaker 2: said that time and time again, the green Bay model,

503
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Speaker 2: if you will, So if that's the model, the situations

504
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Speaker 2: in those scenarios, I don't think that you were paying

505
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Speaker 2: Alex Smith the money that you're paying Kirk Cousins right

506
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Speaker 2: now in year one. I don't think that you were

507
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Speaker 2: paying Aaron Rodgers on the back half of whatever deal

508
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Speaker 2: he was in. He had one foot out the door.

509
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Speaker 1: I think it was pretty close because I do think

510
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Speaker 1: at that point in time, I need to look at

511
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is like two MVPs during that stretch, Like

512
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Speaker 1: he was one of the highest paid quarterbacks, but he

513
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Speaker 1: was a firmly established player, not somebody you brought in

514
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Speaker 1: free agency giving you starter money for two years like that.

515
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Speaker 1: That is the thing. Is the plan also involved.

516
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Speaker 3: When does the plan start?

517
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Speaker 2: It's already started, like it's already like you you drafted

518
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Speaker 2: Michael Pennox like the moment, you have the convictions to its.

519
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Speaker 1: Short term success and long term sustained success. But the

520
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Speaker 1: short term success has not been happening, and that is

521
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Speaker 1: partially due to the quarterback position. But I think that

522
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Speaker 1: so let's let's talk about this upcoming game because one

523
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Speaker 1: of the things I wanted to do was kind of

524
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Speaker 1: walk through maybe how we would develop a game plan. No,

525
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Speaker 1: everything that's on the table, everything that's happened in the

526
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Speaker 1: last four weeks. Do you think, Terran, is this a

527
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Speaker 1: game that the Falcons should come out against a two

528
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Speaker 1: and eleven team and allow Kirk to maybe work through

529
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Speaker 1: these kinks, let it rip, or do you think they

530
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Speaker 1: dial it back? They say, hey, we can run the

531
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Speaker 1: ball on these guys. But Jean has been playing really well.

532
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Speaker 1: Tyler had a nice game against Minnesota. They were a

533
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Speaker 1: great run defense, and yet you saw them move the

534
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Speaker 1: ball effectively on the ground. And do you protect Kirk

535
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Speaker 1: a little bit and you say, hey, we're gonna put

536
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Speaker 1: you in some really advantageous situations and that's when we're

537
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Speaker 1: gonna allow you to throw the ball. But otherwise, defense

538
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Speaker 1: run game, we got to get a win out in.

539
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Speaker 4: LV I part of I go both ways.

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Speaker 2: I'm running, I'm running the ball, and stop, I'm just

541
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Speaker 2: running it.

542
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Speaker 4: I still I'm also going against things I said earlier

543
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Speaker 4: this season where it's like, don't overcorrect. But at this point,

544
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Speaker 4: you've been trying to, like go back to October, go

545
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Speaker 4: back to is there a Taylor swifts on that's like that?

546
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Speaker 5: Back to December.

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Speaker 2: We're in December, so I'm going back to Okay, cheers

548
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Speaker 2: on that.

549
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Speaker 1: Right here in December.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, anyways, I missed that reference.

552
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Speaker 4: But when it comes to the over correction, he's already

553
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Speaker 4: pushing too hard for things. I think you simplify the

554
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Speaker 4: game plan, but you let him rip it.

555
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Speaker 2: But I don't think those things are one and the same.

556
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Speaker 1: Well, I get what she's saying, where if you instead

557
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Speaker 1: of having a menu of fifty plays, you say, hey,

558
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Speaker 1: we've got fifteen plays in here for you almost you

559
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Speaker 1: take it back to almost like a rookie mentality, and

560
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Speaker 1: you say we're going to just rep these and practice

561
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Speaker 1: yeah forever, like you're just running fifteen plays. We're going

562
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Speaker 1: to make sure that when you come out here, like

563
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: the opening game script, those guys are very comfortable and confident.

564
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Speaker 1: Same with a two minute trill. It's like you go

565
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Speaker 1: to the plays that you know like the back of

566
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Speaker 1: your hand, and maybe they do dial back the playbook

567
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Speaker 1: a little bit and say, Kirk, just do these eight plays,

568
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Speaker 1: and we're going to put you in a great position

569
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Speaker 1: to do.

570
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Speaker 4: It, like we know you can do it, and we're

571
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Speaker 4: not just going to hand the ball off, because I

572
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Speaker 4: think if they just run, run, run, it's kind of

573
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Speaker 4: showing that they are a little hesitant about Kirk.

574
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Speaker 3: But if they you the simple menu, like if you give.

575
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Speaker 4: Him what he's the best at and what he's good

576
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Speaker 4: at and what he's comfortable with, You're like, all right,

577
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Speaker 4: go for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you're saying, and I agree with

579
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Speaker 2: the like simplifying things. I think when someone is overthinking,

580
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: the best thing you can do is just give them

581
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Speaker 2: something easy to accomplish to build that confidence back up.

582
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Speaker 2: I'm also running the heck out of the ball in Vegas.

583
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Speaker 2: I think that this run offense, this run Tyler Algier,

584
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Speaker 2: Jon Robinson, this entire offensive line, specifically Kayleb McGary and

585
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Speaker 2: Chris Lindstrom and Drew Domond.

586
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Speaker 5: Like the right side of this played well.

587
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Speaker 2: Dreue Domond has played well since he has come back,

588
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Speaker 2: and shout shout out to Drew Dolmon, but I do

589
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Speaker 2: I'm ready to run the heck out of the ball,

590
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Speaker 2: because run the dang ball. I am. So. I think

591
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Speaker 2: what they did against the Vikings should not be taken lightly.

592
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Speaker 2: And I think what they did against the Vikings is

593
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Speaker 2: being over shadow by the issues they were having with

594
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Speaker 2: Kirk with the secondary turnovers, all of that kind of stuff.

595
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Speaker 2: What they did as a running, a rushing unit in

596
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Speaker 2: Minnesota against the best run defense in the league at

597
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Speaker 2: the time, I'm heralding it.

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Speaker 1: Their opening drive again was amazing. Yeah, it was such

599
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Speaker 1: a good opening drive.

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Speaker 2: It was like, let's get the ball to Pajon. What

601
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Speaker 2: did I say in the last podcast about like if

602
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Speaker 2: you can get Bajon going and get him going early,

603
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Speaker 2: that bodes well for you. And look they got they

604
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Speaker 2: did when they get to the red zone and they're

605
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Speaker 2: handing the ball off to Beajon and handing the ball

606
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Speaker 2: off to Tyler and it's like working, And it worked

607
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Speaker 2: the entire game. There was really not a letting up

608
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Speaker 2: of what they were doing from a run offense, from

609
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Speaker 2: a rushing offense. Standpoint, do it again, because it's not

610
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Speaker 2: like the Raiders have an incredible run defense, not like

611
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Speaker 2: what the Vikings have.

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Speaker 1: No, the Raiders defense is loud. Two hundred and thirteen

613
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Speaker 1: rushing yards over expected on design runs this season, which

614
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Speaker 1: is the second most in the NFL. The Falcons are

615
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Speaker 1: the only team with two running backs who have more

616
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Speaker 1: than seventy yards over expectation this season. So again, run

617
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Speaker 1: the ball. That's why the.

618
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Speaker 4: Smart If you want to prove to Kirk Cousins that

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Speaker 4: you fully believe in them, let them throw it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's my point. I love that gambler and you

621
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Speaker 1: look at you going out to the desert and.

622
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Speaker 4: Just being raising the Vegas. I'm also looking at like

623
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Speaker 4: Vegas is turnovers. They're thirty first in the league with

624
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Speaker 4: the seven interceptions, with eight turnovers overall, but seven of

625
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 4: those interceptions where it's like, this isn't the team that's

626
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: going to pick them off left and right possibly, but

627
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Speaker 4: like I don't go for it, go for it, like

628
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 4: let him get into a rhythm and like balance it,

629
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Speaker 4: make it a balance attack. Like I'm not saying don't

630
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: hand the ball ever to Baijan or Tyler. But if

631
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 4: you're saying you fully believe in him, prove it and

632
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: don't just send him out there to start, that's not like, yeah,

633
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: that's proving one way you believe in him, but like

634
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: let him play, Let the man play.

635
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Speaker 2: I don't think it like any of us are being

636
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: like a complete like ultimatum.

637
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Speaker 5: You're either running or you're.

638
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: Passing in vain, like you know, this is like it's

639
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: all about the game plan, and it's all about the

640
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: feel for the game. I think it's just very like

641
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: this coaching staff is always looking at like they they

642
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: don't really look at I say this.

643
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Speaker 5: I don't know for sure. I'm sure they look at trends.

644
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Speaker 2: But they're very forward thinking or only really focusing on

645
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: the game at hand. What is the game plan that

646
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: is going to win us the game. I think if

647
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: you can establish a run and run the ball well

648
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: and of course sprinkle in some significant plays for Kirk

649
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: significant to get the.

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Speaker 1: Ball moving, you need explosives.

651
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying take that away and just hand the

652
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Speaker 2: ball off to like. It's not an ultimatum. It's not

653
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: like one side here and one side here. I think

654
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: we're all in the same like middle ground of it.

655
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, your run game is working, you're throwing

656
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: interceptions elsewhere, and you haven't thrown an offensive touchdown in

657
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Speaker 2: four games.

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Speaker 1: some Zaxbies. One of the questions in in the mailbox

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Speaker 1: this week was about play action passing. And I know

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Speaker 1: you wrote a story coming out of the bye week

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Speaker 1: about the Falcons intending to do more play action passes,

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Speaker 1: and so I kind of looked at the numbers. They're

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Speaker 1: actually below what they were going into the bye week

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Speaker 1: in play action pass rate. However, the big caveat there

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Speaker 1: is that you're down by two touchdowns in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter against Minnesota you're not going to run play action

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Speaker 1: passes there, So I think that that has a big

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Speaker 1: to do with kind of their lower numbers. But to

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Speaker 1: your point, if you're running the ball effectively, that does

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Speaker 1: set up some play action passing opportunities for Kirk. And

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Speaker 1: I would not be shocked if they come out of

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Speaker 1: this game and we look back and they have one

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Speaker 1: of the highest rates of play action that they've had

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Speaker 1: all season and an effective ground game, because I do

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Speaker 1: think those two can really marry together well exactly, not.

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Speaker 2: Just still words out of your mouth, but they do.

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Speaker 1: We are on the same page today. We are so

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Speaker 1: moving down this page in front of me the Raiders

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Speaker 1: who could kind of cause some problems for the Falcons

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Speaker 1: right again two and eleven. So I don't think a

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Speaker 1: ton of Falcons fans are familiar with the bulk of

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Speaker 1: this roster, but they're certainly familiar with brock Bowers Yepowers,

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Speaker 1: they should be here in Georgia. He is second in

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Speaker 1: receptions among all players. He's a rookie tight end, and

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Speaker 1: he is second in the league with eighty seven catches.

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Speaker 1: I believe Ceedee Lamb is number one. Oh no, Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase is number one. Sorry, Ceedee Lamb's up there too,

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Speaker 1: But no, Jamar Chase is freaking just rolling this year.

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Speaker 1: He's He's Jamar Chasey. But Brock is also fifth in

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Speaker 1: receiving yards nine hundred three again as a rookie tight end.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. He's got four touchdowns on the season, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, is he at the top of your list

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Speaker 1: tory when you're looking at guys on this.

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Speaker 2: Team, regardless of what happens with the quarterback situation that

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Speaker 2: they've got going on. We're recording this on Thursday. We

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Speaker 2: haven't even seen the first injury report yet, so I want.

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Speaker 5: To preface this.

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Speaker 2: I'm really talking about the whole like Desmond Ritter O'Connell

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Speaker 2: of it all, because at this point in time, we

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Speaker 2: don't know what the deal with that is. Regardless, Brock

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Speaker 2: Bauers is their offense. He is such a major part

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Speaker 2: of what they do, the success that they have, the

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Speaker 2: mismasters that they present. I mean, it's kind of similar

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Speaker 2: conversation that we had in Kyle Pitts's first year with

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Speaker 2: Matt Ryan and the mismaster matches and how much of

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Speaker 2: an asset he is in the past game, and like

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Speaker 2: that's It's almost kind of like the same storyline of

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Speaker 2: what Kyle Pitts was when he first came into the

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Speaker 2: league and now what Brock Bauers is doing with the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: So regardless of what happens with the quarterback position and

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Speaker 2: with Las Vegas, brock Bowers is going to be a

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Speaker 2: problem and you have to neutralize him. And I'll say

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Speaker 2: this too coming off of this secondary's play in Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: where I would argue as one of their collective worst

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Speaker 2: performances that they have had this year, a bit uncommon

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Speaker 2: in what they were giving up in terms of explosives

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Speaker 2: from what we have seen from them. To me, if

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Speaker 2: you can neutralize brock Bowers, this is a get back

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Speaker 2: game for the secondary, a get back to confidence, a

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Speaker 2: get back to more of the performance and keeping kind

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Speaker 2: of a lid on the offense. I think this is

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Speaker 2: a good opportunity for this secondary to get a bit

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Speaker 2: of their confidence.

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Speaker 5: Back as well.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, Sarah. I mean when I look at Brack

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Speaker 1: and I'm trying to think of, all, right, how do

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Speaker 1: you start defending him? I really do think you have

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Speaker 1: like they did with Justin Jefferson, like multiple eyes on

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Speaker 1: him at all times. I think you put a linebacker,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Troy, whether it's Caaden, it's probably a mix

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Speaker 1: of everybody. But you also have Jesse looking at him,

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Speaker 1: you have Justin Simmons looking at him. Where's Aj Threll?

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Speaker 1: I would put Aj Trell just on Jacoby Myers. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like the old Bill Belichick, like let's

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Speaker 1: just take one guy, take him away, and then maybe

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Speaker 1: double team you're your best receiver. That's type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But Jacoby Myers is really the only other guy out

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Speaker 1: there at the receiver position. No slight to anybody else

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Speaker 1: on the Las Vegas Raiders, but he's got six six

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Speaker 1: catches for seven hundred and forty three yards. He is

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Speaker 1: capable in his own right. You know, do you think

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Speaker 1: Aj he takes that chess piece off? Is it? Is

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Speaker 1: it Brock? And do you really want a double team

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Speaker 1: Brock in this one?

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Speaker 4: I think you do because he, as you said, it

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Speaker 4: is their offense and tight ends have kind of been

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Speaker 4: a sore point to this defense this season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have people like Kate Awton who did well. TJ.

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Speaker 4: Hawkinson did well even with the Addison and Jefferson duo

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Speaker 4: out there. Jake Ferguson did too, and so you need

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Speaker 4: to neutralize him. And I think since he is the

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Speaker 4: main point for them, point.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's it. That's why I say it.

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Speaker 4: And at the same time, like he's averaging ten point

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Speaker 4: seven yards per reception, he's averaging a first down on

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Speaker 4: his own. Yeah, he's averaging seventy one point eight yards

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Speaker 4: per game. And I think what's really interesting is hearing

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Speaker 4: how he is second in receptions and then thinking back

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Speaker 4: to Raheem's comments today about Kyle Pitch where it's like,

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Speaker 4: because Kyle had one reception on six targets last week,

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Speaker 4: and it's kind and the way Raheem handled it was like,

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Speaker 4: Kyle's not going to be someone who is getting all

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Speaker 4: the receptions, but they're going to be big receptions. It's

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Speaker 4: going to be like two for one hundred something yard

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Speaker 4: It's like that was his example. And so seeing that

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Speaker 4: brock Bauers as another tight end is like top three

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Speaker 4: in reception count is a very interesting duxtaposition. Yeah, when

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Speaker 4: we just talked about how Kyle's going to only have

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Speaker 4: a few but go for the yardage, I.

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Speaker 1: Think that's Tory's point about the rookie, his rookie season.

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Speaker 1: It's the way you're using him, right, because Kyle was

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Speaker 1: getting the volume and that's kind of what Rahem said

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Speaker 1: is he's not a volume tight end. He literally compared

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Speaker 1: him and all get the same caveats. Raheen did different positions,

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Speaker 1: very different players, but to Deshaun Jackson, who Raheem has

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Speaker 1: experience with, and it's like Deshaun would have two catches

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Speaker 1: for one hundred and eighty yards and then you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: hear from him the rest of the game. But those

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Speaker 1: two catches made a huge impact. And that's to bring

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Speaker 1: up Tampa Bay. The two touchdowns, first two touchdowns were

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Speaker 1: to Kyle Pitt's explosive place. That's been an element that's

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Speaker 1: been missing from this offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think too. It's also if we're comparing

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's comparing apple st oranges, but like

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Speaker 2: comparing who Brock Bauers has around him in progressions and

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Speaker 2: route trees.

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Speaker 1: That's why the rookie season is really Yeah for Kyle right, it's.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting because now you look at the pieces around

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Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts, Drake Lundon, Darnell Mooney, Ray Ray McLeod, but

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Speaker 2: John Robinson, Tyler al like there's a lot to go

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Speaker 2: around and you only have so many plays, And that's

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Speaker 2: kind of been the main point of conversation about this

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Speaker 2: offense for a long time. Why isn't Drake getting the ball?

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Speaker 2: Why isn't Kyle getting the ball? Wise, well, they're getting

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Speaker 2: the ball thrown at them, like in Kyle's case six

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Speaker 2: times in the last game with one catch. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: it's not like there's not balls being thrown their way

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Speaker 2: right for one reason or another, a miss Q on

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Speaker 2: Kirk's part or a drop by Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we should mention really quickly. Las Vegas defense Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby is the name to know there. Obviously, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be another big matchup for Caleb McGarry, and I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to see this one because I do think Caleb

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Speaker 1: has had a good season. Yeah, I think it's been

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Speaker 1: a little bit under the radar.

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Speaker 2: But it's another reason I'm like, run the ball. I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna lie. Like. Another reason why I keep kind

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Speaker 2: of like harping on really valuing the run game in

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Speaker 2: this game is because of someone like Max Crossby.

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Speaker 1: What's crazy too, is that the Raiders have been very

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Speaker 1: susceptible to the screen game this season, a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams like to use the screens against him for this

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Speaker 1: exact reason. Max Crosby is a premiere one a pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: and the best way to slow down a pass rush

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Speaker 1: is some times with the screen game get away from him. However,

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Speaker 1: you know, the screen game has been a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an up and down battle for the Falcons all

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Speaker 1: season long, so you know, we'll see how they decide

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Speaker 1: to attack that and if that is a big part

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Speaker 1: of the game plan again this week. But just one

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Speaker 1: thing I wanted to mention there. So we'll wrap this

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Speaker 1: up by by talking about kind of the road ahead

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Speaker 1: for Atlanta. And one of the things that I really

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Speaker 1: liked hearing from Raheem today was he said, quote, we

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Speaker 1: are essentially playing playoff football right now, and there have

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Speaker 1: been a lot of questions in the mail bag over

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Speaker 1: the last several weeks about is this a must win game?

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Speaker 1: And to hear Raheem, you know, come out and he

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Speaker 1: didn't use the words must win, but I did. Okay,

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Speaker 1: then I stand corrected, and and that's even more refreshing

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Speaker 1: frankly to hear, because they are in that situation they

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Speaker 1: do need to be playing playoff football. And do you

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Speaker 1: like hearing that sense of increased urgency toy, Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: I mean just the honesty. Yea, Honestly, I love honesty.

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Speaker 5: It's why.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, let's let's be honest with you, let's be

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Speaker 2: up front, let's not hide behind kind of some pleasantries

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Speaker 2: when you're on a four game lose streak like I so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is a and we're gonna get into the numbers

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Speaker 2: of it and everything, but you've essentially taken kind of

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Speaker 2: this idea of a postseason run out of your hands

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Speaker 2: because you haven't been able to string wins together. And

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Speaker 2: that's the truth of the matter, and so you have

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Speaker 2: to kind of own up to that, and you kind

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Speaker 2: of have to to get it through everyone's heads that

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Speaker 2: it's like this game for morale, let's be honest, for

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Speaker 2: morale of the fan base, and for just your hopes

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Speaker 2: of even keeping this thing alive. Got to beat the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: You have two and eleven Raiders who is on a

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Speaker 2: nine game losing streak. You have got to beat them,

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Speaker 2: point blank, period. The expectation should be nothing less.

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Speaker 5: Sorry.

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Speaker 4: Frake London kind of set it best in the long

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Speaker 4: room today. He's like, we don't need to talk about it.

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Speaker 4: We know that it is a must win. There you go,

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Speaker 4: and Tyler Algier was like, the urgency has been there

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Speaker 4: for the past four games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's but it's tough though. When when those when

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Speaker 1: that urgency has been there and the results are what

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Speaker 1: they are, you feel I feel like the gravity of

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Speaker 1: the situation and the momentum builds in that direction and

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Speaker 1: it becomes a little bit like, Okay, how do we

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00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: get back to winning. You know it's been a month

872
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: since they last won a football game, and.

873
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 5: That it's been a long month.

874
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it almost you can almost like forget what it

875
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: feels like to win, to feel that confidence going out

876
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: there on a Sunday knowing, hey, we're better than this team.

877
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: We're going to roll over this team. They can't stop us,

878
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: watch us walk away with the w and they need

879
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: to kind of almost defy the gravity shout out wicked

880
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: of their current situation.

881
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: And absolutely.

882
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: Our own ELpH above over there and uh and get

883
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: things turned around here. So Tory mentioned the numbers. I

884
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: took a look at the New York Times kind of

885
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: playoff machine there, and we all know the situation, right,

886
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: You're in second place now in the NFC South. If

887
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: the Bucks win out, they're going to the playoffs, right,

888
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: But they've got a tough matchup this week against the

889
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. Then they've got another tough matchup next

890
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: week against the Dallas Cowboys. Either one of those, you know,

891
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: could be a toss up. But honestly, the Falcons got

892
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: to worry about their own business. They've got the Raiders,

893
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: the Giants, then you've got the Wahington Commanders before wrapping

894
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: up with the Carolina Panthers. And so I looked at

895
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: the scenarios. Even if the Falcons win three of four,

896
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: and I just chose the Commanders as their loss, because

897
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: on paper, that feels like the toughest game remaining, they

898
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: would have a sixty four percent chance of making it

899
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: if the Bucks lose this weekend. If the Bucks win

900
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: and the Falcons lose one of these remaining four games,

901
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: nineteen percent. So I think that shows a the importance

902
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: of the Bucks losing one of these games, right because

903
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: if they don't, again, they're in the playoffs. But you

904
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: got to handle your business too. If the Falcons win out,

905
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: the New York Times says they have an eighty five

906
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: percent chance kind of regardless of what the Bucks do,

907
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: because again, there's a couple of tough games left, so

908
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: there's a chance that the lose one of these two games.

909
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: You what's your reaction kind of hearing that toy?

910
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: I mean, it's exactly what I said before, where you've

911
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: taken it out of your hands. And that's such a

912
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: tough place to be at because of where you were

913
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: a month ago and feeling as though you were in

914
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: a really good spot and having conversations about what a

915
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: postseason run could look like and feeling like you were

916
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 2: out running the South.

917
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: To use that tagline and then.

918
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: To no longer feel that way a month later is

919
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: the stark reality of the NFL. But it's also the

920
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: position that you put yourself in by not winning games.

921
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: And it feels very reminiscent of what it's been the

922
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: last few years. Where we're sitting here in week fifteen,

923
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: whatever week it is, and you're talking about the Bucks

924
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: as much, if not more, than you're talking about the Falcons.

925
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: That's the toughest part of all of this, isn't It

926
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: is just the repeat again and again and again.

927
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: Right and it being the same conversation, We're having the

928
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: same conversation that we've had the last few years of like, Okay,

929
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: what are the up to? What are the playoff scenarios?

930
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: Like what we're having a quarterback controversy, Like we're talking

931
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: about this ad nauseum for years, and I think, like

932
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: that's why I'm kind of a little bit just like

933
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: I wrote in the notebook that I really don't have words.

934
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: Like frustration, like we get it. I get it, and.

935
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: I sympathize and empathize and.

936
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: I all the size I.

937
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: I just don't have words because no one wants to

938
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: sit here and listen to us talk about like, oh,

939
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: the performance of this person, this person, this person, it's

940
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: so good you be that's being a little bit Like

941
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I'm being callous, but like they're not

942
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: winning games. Yeah, putting lipstick on a pig, Like that's

943
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: so I don't there are some cuts there, but I

944
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: that's just where I am. And hearing all of this

945
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: and the numbers of it, it just takes me back

946
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: to so many other moments covering this team in the

947
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: last four years.

948
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, it's it's totally fair again, because like

949
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: we hear all of it, we see all of it. Like, yeah,

950
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: we and we oh, it's you guys listening to like

951
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: try to be as real as possible, and yeah, we

952
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: want to share insights from the team and and all

953
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: of that, but we also hear what you guys are saying,

954
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: and you're not wrong. Let's watch this game too, so

955
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: we we want to try to provide as much information

956
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: as we can. But Teraran, let's wrap up really quickly

957
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: with one thing the Falcon's got to do on Sunday.

958
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: I think all of our answers are going to be

959
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: pretty simple in this one. Yeah, so what do they

960
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: got to do? Win that simple whatever.

961
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 4: Even if it's my only field goals with all costs.

962
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: I think I think Kirk Cousins needs to throw a

963
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: touchdown pass. I mean, like, yeah, sorry to put pressure

964
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 4: on the guy, but you.

965
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: Need I don't think I don't think we're the ones

966
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: that he has.

967
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but I don't like singling one person out.

968
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 4: But you need to throw a touchdown pass.

969
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Let's just take it a step further

970
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: be better in the red zone.

971
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: Yep, that was I mean the no.

972
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm glad you put this in here because it was

973
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: also a note that I had that The Raiders are

974
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: twenty fifth in red zone defense and thirtieth in points

975
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: allowed per game. If there was ever a game where you,

976
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: on paper should score points, it's against this defense.

977
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: The on paper thing gives me flashbacks to other weeks

978
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 4: where I'm like, on paper, the Falcons should win this game.

979
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I got to go on fair yeah,

980
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: because that's that's the thing is, like we've been saying

981
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: on paper, on paper, on paper at the beginning of

982
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: the season, being like, this is the best roster that

983
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: has come through at Land in a long time, and

984
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: now here we are at six and seven.

985
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: The paper doesn't matter. The grass slash turf does there?

986
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: You go yeah, yeah, And it's it takes me all

987
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: the way back to what they were saying in training camp,

988
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: right like, we know the group that we have, we

989
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: know our expectations on paper and the talent, but we

990
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: got to go out there and prove it. Yeah, And

991
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: it's prove it time, and they've got to go out

992
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: and prove it in Las Vegas. It starts this week.

993
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: This can be a get right game for the Falcons

994
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: if they go out and play the way that they

995
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: have at times this season and honestly the way that

996
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: we have expected them to way more often than not

997
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: yep this year. So that will do it for today's show.

998
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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening and watching. Check

999
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: us out on YouTube. Be sure to check out the

1000
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Speaker 1: pregame show, which we'll go at seven point thirty before

1001
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: the eight thirty pm kickoff from Monday Night football. We've

1002
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: got Derek Rackley and Taylor Bismore who do an amazing

1003
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: job on the pregame show breaking it all down for

1004
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: you guys. The postgame podcast will be going up Tuesday afternoon.

1005
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: Because of just the late start for the Monday night game,

1006
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: we're not recording anything at three point thirty in the morning. Sorry,

1007
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: we love you all, but just need a little bit

1008
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: of sleep too, So yeah, I think that's a good

1009
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: spot to wrap up again. Today's episode presented by Zaxby's

1010
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: for Tory mclaney and Tarn Walcke. I'm Will mc fadden.

1011
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Speaker 1: We will see you guys next time.