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Speaker 1: Second date updated. I'm not sure if you guys remember this,

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Speaker 1: but about six months ago we did an awkward Tuesday

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Speaker 1: phone call with a listener named Kevin who wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask out his coworker and he was super nervous about

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Speaker 1: it needed our advice. The call wasn't perfect, he had

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Speaker 1: some stumbles along the way. But she's sound like every

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Speaker 1: call that we do, absolutely flawless.

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Speaker 2: I'm tried to remember what happened.

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Speaker 1: In the end, she did say yes and agree to

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Speaker 1: a date with him. I guess I don't know. It

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Speaker 1: was a yes bottom line. Now, apparently they went out

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Speaker 1: a few times, things fizzled, didn't quite last. So Kevin

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Speaker 1: has jumped back into the beautiful oasis we call the

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Speaker 1: modern dating pool. And again, that was months ago. So, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: how's it been. Have you had a lot of dates

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Speaker 1: in that time?

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Speaker 3: Like ten, ten, ten days?

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Speaker 1: You dates in the last two years?

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Speaker 2: Why are you doing some work? Congratulations? You're a catch?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I actually haven't had a second date.

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Speaker 2: But is that from your choosing? Like maybe you didn't

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Speaker 2: want to go out again with any of them?

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Speaker 3: No, I would have been happy to go out with

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Speaker 3: really any of them again.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, Okay, that's hard.

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Speaker 2: You're here, We're going to help you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they haven't been the greatest. I actually had a

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Speaker 3: really bad one. Yeah she was a nice girl, I thought,

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Speaker 3: But when I walked her out to her cards opened

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Speaker 3: the door, and then she just suck her punched me,

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Speaker 1: Wait what did you say?

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Speaker 3: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: I did not expect that sentence.

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Speaker 2: That is terrible face? Did she punch you in the face?

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Speaker 3: It was actually in the back of my head. I

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Speaker 3: was opening her door, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: I just felt.

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Speaker 1: This, like, did you ask permission to open the door

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Speaker 1: for her? Because she mayn't really have not liked that

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Speaker 1: you weren't fast enough for her.

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Speaker 3: Maybe so, I don't know if she thought I was

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Speaker 3: going to kiss her or.

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Speaker 1: Your head, how are you going to kiss her? Maybe

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Speaker 1: she thought that you were trying to steal her car.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: It has to be a self defense.

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Speaker 1: He's not like, give me the keys.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Wasn't that bad? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Some people give off natural grand theft daughter vibes, so

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Speaker 1: maybe you fell into that category.

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Speaker 2: Ask for you? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Now I am yeah, concu so a sucker punch girl?

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Speaker 1: The one you want us to call for a second

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Speaker 1: date update, we'll call her. Well, who do you want

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Speaker 3: I've had this really bad luck until I met Chelsea.

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Speaker 1: Chelsea, Okay, it's a new girl.

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Speaker 2: Okay, no physical violence.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll tell us about your I'm assuming you

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Speaker 1: went on a date with Chelsea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't punch me.

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Speaker 1: Actually perfect, we're improving.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a good sign, and we connected

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Speaker 3: the best out of all of the first dates I

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Speaker 2: Okay, well what made what made it the best?

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Speaker 4: Felt like I could talk to her because like when

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Speaker 4: we went on our coffee date, it was a good conversation,

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Speaker 4: even though it didn't last very long. Okay, it was

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Speaker 2: Why was it so short?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not really sure my friends got by

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Speaker 3: and by your friend? Yeah, I don't really know why.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you had a friend come by randomly and

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Speaker 1: you talk to the friend a little bit, and you

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Speaker 3: I make I don't know. That would be weird to me.

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Speaker 1: She got a friend in what.

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Speaker 2: Happens if you're only there for twenty minutes and you

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Speaker 2: have a five minute conversation with a friend. That's one

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Speaker 2: fourth of the date.

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Speaker 1: They learned trying to play it off. Hey, Brooke, good

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Speaker 1: to see you here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm too successful and beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I normally wouldn't ask this, but I

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Speaker 1: feel like I need to know Chelsea. She's not the barista, right,

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Speaker 1: you're not considering that a date. That's creative? Like she

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Speaker 3: No, she doesn't work there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good question. How did it end? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: after the twenty minutes, how did you two leave it?

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Speaker 3: She said she had to do something, so we got

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Speaker 1: She walked away the same direction.

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Speaker 2: That's like the most awkward thing ever.

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Speaker 1: And then she started to jog, and then you started

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Speaker 1: Weird chases you.

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Speaker 3: I end up I lost her, I lost you, I think, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's really Did she know you were back there?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but you weren't following her. That was just a coincidence.

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Speaker 1: You had the same route home.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I hate that even when that happens with my

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Speaker 2: friends were saying goodbye at the restaurant and then we're like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get it, you get it all right? So how

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Speaker 3: I credit two weeks?

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Speaker 2: Two weeks?

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Speaker 2: I have you reached out much with her?

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Speaker 3: I was texting her quite a bit?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we may, said, yeah, we might.

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Speaker 1: We may find out if you've crossed any lines or

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Speaker 1: how many texts you've actually sent when we call her here.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more how far he did cross them,

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Speaker 1: or maybe they were right in that sweet spot. We

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Speaker 1: don't know, Brooke. Remember when you said you had hope.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have hope as long as you didn't

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Speaker 2: send her a picture of the back of her head

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Speaker 2: as she was walking away from you on this He

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Speaker 1: Trying to make sure she doesn't get sucker punched back there.

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Speaker 3: What did I was gonna say when I was on

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Speaker 3: last time, Brooke? You told me to be more certain,

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Speaker 3: So I'm really trying to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeahies in their car, there's a balance that we need

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Speaker 1: But maybe when enough period and weren't trying to be weird.

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Speaker 1: You were just trying to walk to your car.

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's not why she's not calling me back

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Speaker 1: We're making stuff. Okay, well let's call her and use

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Speaker 1: that assertion to aggressively get you a second date. When

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Speaker 1: we called Chelsea right after this hold on second date update,

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Speaker 1: don't you hate it when you're on a first date

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Speaker 1: and the girl says she has to go and you

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Speaker 1: accidentally follow her all the way home. No, jef, I

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Speaker 2: Only three blocks, to be fair, I mean enough blocks

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Speaker 2: to be alarming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you lost her. That's what happened to our listener, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Sort of. He wasn't following his date Chelsea on purpose.

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Speaker 1: They just left the coffee shop at the same time,

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, at any point, did you think I

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Speaker 1: Or just stop for a second? No, stop, hope, He

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Speaker 1: didn't think speed up, catch up with her. Did that

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Speaker 1: thought come to your mind at all, Kevin, any of those?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think it was that weird, and so

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Speaker 3: I've been thinking about it, like while we were on hold,

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Speaker 3: and I think you should tell her that I didn't

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you want you want us to let her know.

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Speaker 1: That, Okay, yeah, okay, okay. We're not exactly sure what

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes long, which is kind of short to get

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Speaker 1: to know someone. That's honestly the bigger concern for me,

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Speaker 1: like why did she only stay for twenty minutes? The

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Speaker 1: following is a totally different story. If you were in

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Speaker 2: They were just trying to squeeze it in and it's

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Speaker 2: like one of those pre dates where it's just like

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Speaker 2: a quick coffee, like will this be worth a full night?

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Speaker 1: You didn't catfish her with like a photo of Liam Hemsworth,

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Speaker 1: did you, because you do sound like a Liam to

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Speaker 1: me right now? Kind of hunky.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually bushing right now. But now does a.

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Speaker 1: Name could have fooled me? Let's call Chelsea here. We'll

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Speaker 1: see if we can get an explanation from her. If

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Speaker 1: she picks up all right, here we go. Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 1: is this Chelsea?

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Speaker 5: This is who's calling?

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Speaker 1: This is a radio show calling called Brook and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: in the morning.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Chelsea, Uh what what what is this?

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Speaker 1: This is fun for some of us, it's fun. It's

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Speaker 1: a segment we do call the Second Date Update. And

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Speaker 1: we're looking at sorry.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just listening, just actively listening.

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Speaker 1: By interrupting me. But let's okay. We're trying to help

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Speaker 1: out one of our listeners that you went out on

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Speaker 1: a date with recently. He says he had a really

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Speaker 1: good time with you, but it ended kind of short.

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Speaker 1: His name is Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm hoping that was a smile and not a laugh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sensitive.

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Speaker 1: We're calling because Kevin told us a little bit about

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Speaker 1: your guys' date coffee date, coffee date, and from what

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Speaker 1: we heard, it sounded pretty fun.

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Speaker 2: Tame short.

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Speaker 5: That was two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he he liked you, He thought you were awesome.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to see you again.

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Speaker 1: He said he's been pursuing it actually and texting you,

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Speaker 1: trying to organize something, but he doesn't understand why nothing's happening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he has sent me quite a few texts, but

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Speaker 5: I guess I'm confused as to why he doesn't understand

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Speaker 5: why he start moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Did you write him back he. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 2: we never asked if you ever texted him back.

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Speaker 5: From my perspective, he was pretty obviously.

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Speaker 1: The only idea that he had about the date, about

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Speaker 1: why it would have ended so quickly, is he did

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Speaker 1: mention one of his friends stopped by and said.

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Speaker 3: Hi, that's what he said.

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Speaker 5: He he said, a friend stopped by.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that.

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Speaker 2: You think that they weren't actually friends?

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Speaker 5: Was it his ex? No? I mean, as far as

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Speaker 5: I know, I don't think it was an ex, but

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Thirty seconds a minute into us meeting

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Speaker 5: at the coffee shop, this guy comes over and sits

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Speaker 5: like right next to us, isn't looking at me at all.

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Speaker 5: So I asked Kevin. I was like, Hi, can we

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Speaker 5: introduce him? He's like, well, no, no, don't. He's not engaging

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Speaker 5: in the conversation. He's just my emotional support friend.

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Speaker 2: Vest Dude, that's amazing that he can find a friend

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Speaker 1: Be a good I need to know is Charles sitting

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Speaker 2: Is he's just listening.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all.

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Speaker 5: He was there the whole time. He wasn't really engaging

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Speaker 5: I mean he laughed at some of the things that

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Speaker 2: Everybody needs a backup friend, Charles a few tables over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't know that was how it played out.

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Speaker 2: Charles is on the phone too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because oh my god, we have an emotional support

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Speaker 2: Kevin's here.

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Speaker 5: What he's on the phone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really Actually he wants to talk in this conversation,

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Speaker 2: Okay, if he's there, Keviny there, Yeah, I'm here. How

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm listening. Yeah, I don't understand what the

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Speaker 1: When did you get an emotional support bro? You didn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a friend is a friend. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: You sounds like you gave him a title. You you

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Speaker 2: Kevin, you brought him along on the date and didn't

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Speaker 3: I mean, yes, he was there, but he was there

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Speaker 5: I guess. I mean, but you kind of have to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you mad because he didn't laugh at your

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Speaker 1: I'd be mad that's a good question, guys, Chelsea, No,

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Speaker 5: I don't think I was particularly funny because I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be right.

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Speaker 3: I didn't need to tell her because he wasn't going

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Speaker 1: So what I think, Kevin, Chelsea is saying that it's

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Speaker 5: I don't even mean romantically, I just mean as a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin, it's a little bit distracting, Kevin.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he's waiting for Charles to responds.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it's a little bit distracting, I guess. But

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Speaker 1: Oh you paying.

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Speaker 3: Hard? I mean okay, yeah, he was technically not facing

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Speaker 1: Well, I do think that would be better. That's that's

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Speaker 1: Awkward Kevin, I mean, people need to tell him we

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Speaker 1: left the rest of the day. But the blindfolded a

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Speaker 2: Emotional support is totally normal and needed. But let's get

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Speaker 3: And it was a good date.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't, did.

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Speaker 5: You hear it wasn't a good date. I am so sorry, y'all.

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Speaker 5: I don't understand why this was even a conversation. It

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Speaker 1: Sounds like you need an emotional support friend to deal

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Speaker 3: She keeps having to go, and I think that's.

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Speaker 2: She's not interested. And I don't know that you're going

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Speaker 2: to find many that are interested when Charles has to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, emotional for animals are kind of weird. I prefer people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well maybe again, maybe just follow her home

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Speaker 1: I don't say this about many people, but this show

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Speaker 1: is an open door for Kevin whenever he wants to

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Speaker 1: come back. He is officially a friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: even if he wasn't being one hundred per century full

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Speaker 1: with us about his emotional support friend. I like him

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Speaker 2: Is he the only one that pushes back on dogs

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Speaker 2: that people are better than dogs? They're not Kevin.

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Speaker 1: People are your problem. Yeah, everybody agrees. All the people

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Speaker 2: Are better than be yes, get the right emotional support.

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Speaker 1: Actually, wait, did his emotional support friend follow Chelsea home too?

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Speaker 2: So there's two dudes following If there's.

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Speaker 2: You didn't understand the creepiness when the guy was sitting

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Speaker 1: The date itself was pretty honest. Yeah, I mean he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he honestly could have had him on

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Speaker 2: speakerphone and just set the phone on the tab.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's lots of life lessons to be taken

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Speaker 1: from these segments, and you can go find them online

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast at Brook and Jeffrey and

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Speaker 1: then email the show. We can call that person who

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Speaker 1: wasn't calling you back

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Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.