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Speaker 1: How many drafts can we do in an hour?

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Speaker 1: What I mean cheat sheets?

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Speaker 2: I mean if it was five minutes in theory, would

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Speaker 1: Too much? I guess though, that's that's too much. Well

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the infield. Let's start at

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Speaker 1: first base here and obviously a place we're looking for power,

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Speaker 1: we're looking for run potential. RBIs all of the above.

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Speaker 1: Let's start here with the expert consensus rankings. Freddie Freeman

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Speaker 1: by Matt Olsen, Bryce Harper, who last year came off

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Speaker 1: the injury obviously maybe a little too soon, as we

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Speaker 1: were saying back in the summertime, but he's such a gamer,

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Speaker 1: that dude, Vlad Guerrero Junior looking for a bounce back,

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Speaker 1: and Pete Alonzo at number five Welsh to me, this

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Speaker 1: after this we dropped to Cody Bell and Drew West

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Speaker 1: to repeat a very strong season Chicago, where still as

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Speaker 1: a recording is don't know where he is going to

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Speaker 1: I think it's Freeman, Olsen, Harper, Vlad pe Alonzo. Your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this upper tier. Somebody want to move in,

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Speaker 3: Okay, so for our well, I am going to argue it. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you're right, except I do think we can split these

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Speaker 2: What's the what's the jack?

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Speaker 1: I can't sass him at the top of the show,

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Speaker 3: Is it the fine fine tooth comb.

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Speaker 1: What did you say a tooth fine comb?

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Speaker 2: I don't, but what does that even mean? What is

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Speaker 1: It means, well, you're asking the bald guy about the

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Speaker 1: fine tooth comb. What it is is you know when

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Speaker 2: No, no, I know the analogy, but like the fine

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you do.

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Speaker 3: But if you, I know a version of it. There's

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Speaker 2: And this is how I view tears. This is how

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Speaker 3: Is like there's no way I would move the guy

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Speaker 2: And I did this. Look at you take like Roto.

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Speaker 3: The type of first baseman you want is a guy

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Speaker 2: So who are the guys that do that? All these

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Speaker 3: But there isn't a scenario where I'm gonna put Vlad

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Speaker 3: And then here's the big thing, though it's a pretty

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Speaker 3: But I agree with this tier by the way, this is.

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Speaker 2: How I tier them out.

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Speaker 3: Not everybody has it, because some like Harper over Olsen,

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Speaker 3: some like Alonzo over Vlad Guerrero. But this is actually

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Speaker 3: my definitive first base.

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Speaker 1: Run Matt Olsen coming off a year with fifty four

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Speaker 1: with you. I would even argue, I mean further because

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Speaker 1: maybe he's his own little you know, maybe there's one A,

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Speaker 1: I just want to see Harper kind of bounce back completely,

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Speaker 1: more like himself. They hit two ninety three last year,

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Speaker 1: the S tier is freedom A team.

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Speaker 2: Can we call them the A team?

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Speaker 3: That's like a great day, just like every day, just

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that turned something into a tank.

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Speaker 3: Well, these two are tanks. Vlad and Pede Alonso the

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Speaker 3: one B tier. What's interesting about them is they are

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Speaker 3: it's the expected batting average to come back up for

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Speaker 3: Alonzo with forty plus homers. And if you're looking at

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Speaker 3: Vlad Carrero, he is probably the biggest projection monster because

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Speaker 3: He just had poor results, better launch angle. He's projected

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Speaker 2: But they're great. But then we're about to take a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cody Bellinger again, great season last year, twenty twenty season.

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Speaker 1: Can he repeat it? We'll see the batting average bounced

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Speaker 1: feel good about him. Tristan Cassis comes in at number

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Speaker 1: ten on this list, twenty four bombs for him last year.

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Speaker 1: I'm very high on Nolan Jones also in this tier,

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Speaker 1: and then Spencer Torklssen in this grouping as well, who

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Speaker 1: ninety five rubies. Last year he hit just two thirty four.

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Speaker 1: But for me, it's gold Schmidt ahead of Bellinger. I

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Speaker 1: have that conversation than Cassis and Torkosen, I think are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm not super big into Bellinger, but I'm

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Speaker 3: open to the possibility whatever he changed is the new thing.

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Speaker 3: But he changed was completely lowered to strikeouts, but he

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Speaker 3: hard hit percentage like absolutely plummeted. Those aren't great things

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Speaker 3: for like long term sustainable power, But it doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: But I think there's more variance with him, and he's

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Speaker 2: I love Goldie.

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Speaker 3: This year, you look at Goldie's profile, He's another one

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Speaker 3: of those guys underperforming.

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Speaker 2: But to what degree?

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Speaker 3: It just looked like he had a little bit less

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Speaker 3: Bat speed and guess what drive line this year he

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Speaker 3: spent the offseason, specifically working on bat speed a drive line.

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Speaker 3: So I really like Goldie in this front. Nolan Jones,

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Speaker 3: you and I have gone back and forth with I

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Speaker 3: think this is I think it's some version of Bellinger, Goldie,

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Speaker 3: Nolan Jones, Christian Walker, and I would say Cassis Cossus

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Speaker 3: think I just did a social short talking about players

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Speaker 3: that are going to boost their power. Cosis is one

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Speaker 3: of those guys. I think that is going to do that.

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Speaker 3: He's going to take a big step up this year.

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Speaker 3: Big hard hit numbers, good barreling, he does everything right,

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Speaker 3: it's just more games and he's projected at almost thirty

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Speaker 2: So I think that is kind of a rough tier.

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Speaker 3: So I did Bellie, I said, Bellinger, Goldie, Nolan Jones, Walker,

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Speaker 3: and Cossas's kind of I guess that's two, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're doing one A, one B and then two.

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Speaker 1: That's fairly something to that effect.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Steer another guy who's hovering around this grouping. In fact,

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Speaker 3: So I'm actually like a really big Josh Naylor guy

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of potential tuning in this roster still,

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Speaker 3: But YONDI and Naylor a little bit closer, Steer is

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Speaker 1: All right, so we've got basically our top twelve ish,

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Speaker 1: looking at the fancy pros projections to twenty two homers,

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Speaker 1: You got guys like Vinnie Pascuentino, Christian Strand, who qualifies there,

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Speaker 1: Reee Hoskins coming off the injury signing with Milwaukee, Alec Bohm,

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Speaker 3: Reee Hoskins is absolutely that guy going to Milwaukee. You

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Speaker 3: Paspuentino and Reese Hoskins would be the later guys.

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Speaker 1: to the second base grouping here, and no surprise at

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Speaker 1: the top, you're gonna find Mookie Betts, as you should.

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Speaker 1: Ozzie Albi's our favorite guy last year, who we just said,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was just crazy. The value on Albi's

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Speaker 1: Ribi's ninety six runs, score hit two eighty also stole

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Speaker 3: Sometimes these guys like O Kunya kun We'll do an

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Speaker 3: episode we're talking about overall, Kunya gets his own tier. Bets,

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Speaker 3: the only thing that happens with me because I disagree

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Speaker 3: what has happened to me multiple times in drafts. I

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Speaker 1: All right. So after Albi's and Simeon, Altuove comes in

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Speaker 1: at four on Fantasy Pros, the Matt McLain, Nico Horner, Glaber, Torres,

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Speaker 1: hass Young, Kim Mikhtel Marte. So let's talk about this

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Speaker 1: right now. When you were doing those, you had some

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Speaker 1: So look, it's his best year since twenty nineteen Torres,

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Speaker 1: we're all going to be very very pleased with that.

431
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Speaker 1: ADP The next grouping here, when you're looking at outside

432
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Speaker 1: the top ten, Andre Semeniz and gel Off from Oakland,

433
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,679
Speaker 1: you have Spencer Steer, Luisa Raie. So I know Welsh

434
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Speaker 1: has feelings about Luisa Rise Again, he is a batting

435
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,080
Speaker 1: average player. You say it all the time, Estrada, Nolan Gorman,

436
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 1: Edmund My Boy, Edward Julian Jonathan India. You're not a

437
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 1: fan of Brandon Drury at twenty and then it's the

438
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Speaker 1: Parades and the Polancos of the world who are outside

439
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Speaker 1: this top twenty, maybe Brandon Lau Here. Here's my question

440
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Speaker 1: to you, Welsh, this is why I don't love second base,

441
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Speaker 1: which is why I'm looking to you know, if I

442
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 1: don't get Ozzie Albi's glamor, Torres is a good fallback.

443
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't mind Marte, but the rest of this grouping

444
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Speaker 1: when it gets a little deeper here, especially in leagues

445
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Speaker 1: when you're playing middle infielders, I don't love this grouping.

446
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't feel really warm and fuzzy about them. Who

447
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Speaker 1: are some of the guys in this ten through twenty

448
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Speaker 1: range that are targets of yours this draft season.

449
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Speaker 3: So one of the things we found when we were

450
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Speaker 3: doing the what do you need out of your positions

451
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 3: when you're trying to accumulate? And obviously it's like a

452
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 3: roto conversation, but it can be a applied to categories.

453
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 3: Maybe not so much points that you need. You need

454
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 3: like premium stolen bases where you can unless you're going

455
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 3: to make up for it significantly somewhere else at second

456
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Speaker 3: base and at shortstop.

457
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Speaker 2: So Andrasimenez is actually a player that I really like.

458
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 3: Where everybody is reaching for the sky for Nico Horner

459
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 3: because he hit you know, two ninety and had the

460
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Speaker 3: forty something stolen bases, you can probably get thirty out

461
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Speaker 3: of Andres Himenez with more power and not a big

462
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: major dip in batting average, I mean different from Nico,

463
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Speaker 3: but not one that's going to like completely deplete your team.

464
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Speaker 3: So I don't mind andras him in, especially from a

465
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Speaker 3: little bit.

466
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Speaker 2: Of a speed deficienty.

467
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Speaker 1: It's ten less homer. I mean it's had ten less

468
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 1: deals and twice as many homers potentially as what you're looking.

469
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Speaker 3: At it, and it's like it's probably like fifty sixty

470
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Speaker 3: spots lower on the overall. I'm not looking what is

471
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Speaker 3: Jimenez overall? He's one well over Horner sixty four. It's

472
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Speaker 3: almost it's almost half the costs. So you don't want

473
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Speaker 3: to do this exercise all the time. It was good,

474
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Speaker 3: but you know what, Jimenez has more power, almost as

475
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Speaker 3: many stolen bases. You're gonna score some runs maybe RB

476
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Speaker 3: Like I think Kamenez is a great fallback, especially if

477
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: you got maybe like you know, Judge er Lely, or

478
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 3: you got Matt Olson and you don't have big significant

479
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: stolen bases. I love Jimenez. I love getting him there.

480
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm kind of down with Bryson Scott. You mentioned the

481
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Speaker 3: Arise thing. The only thing I'll say is like he

482
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Speaker 3: is fine, but I can't fathom the ooing and the aweing.

483
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: We do over a guy that literally.

484
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Speaker 3: Does one category. He's okay in runs, but that's a

485
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Speaker 3: one and a half player. Now he's the best player

486
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Speaker 3: at that one spot, but he doesn't get the treatment

487
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Speaker 3: of Estuary Ruiz and but everyone like he's a better

488
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 3: real life player than he is a fantasy player. He's

489
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 3: better in points, he's an elite fantasy player in points,

490
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: he's not in head to head categories. Rodo, so I

491
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: don't have as much interest in him. But this is

492
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Speaker 3: also why that position is not the worst. You could

493
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Speaker 3: suffice with Luisa Rise on your team as your starting

494
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: second basement, and he's a fourteenth.

495
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Speaker 2: Off the board, I would just suggest against it.

496
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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Let's move on to the third base position.

497
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez at the top, again, coming off slightly down

498
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: year from what we're you know, used to with him.

499
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 1: Usually we're well above the one hundred RBI total, just

500
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: eighty last year. But again we can look at that

501
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 1: Guardians offense and poke holes all day, because it really

502
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: just did not do a whole lot. In fact, it

503
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: feels like that meme where they're poking it with a

504
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: stick and they're like, come on do something, but hopefully

505
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: nailer and nailer and maybe there's a third dam like

506
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: you get a third nailer in Cleveland?

507
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,959
Speaker 3: Actually is there is John Wait, there is Boe Nailor,

508
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: and there is another nailor, Miles Naylor who plays for

509
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: the Oakland As who just got drafted.

510
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 1: But Jose Ramirez to me, Whilsh's still just above everybody

511
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: because the soul base potential, even Austin Riley back to

512
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: back thirty five home run plus if you want to say,

513
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Speaker 1: it's Riley, Devers and Ramirez at the top and they're

514
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Speaker 1: all one group. I still have Ramirez slightly above those

515
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Speaker 1: guys in my own tier because I do think, you know,

516
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Speaker 1: this year, maybe we get back to that super elite

517
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Speaker 1: first round level guy. Do you agree or disagree? Yeah?

518
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 3: Now I agree with you. Like again, tell everybody what's

519
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 3: my what's my deal with tears? Would I take Austin

520
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: Riley over Jose Ramirez, No it would not. Would I

521
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: take Raphael Devers over Ramirez?

522
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: No it would not.

523
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: I'm not as speed hungry as some or even as

524
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Speaker 3: I've been in the past.

525
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: It's just because there's a lot to go around now.

526
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Speaker 3: I do think you should always focus on when you

527
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: can get an elite and when you can step ahead

528
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: of everybody else. But getting a guy that steals like

529
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: twenty five bases, I don't think that makes them no.

530
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: Look, of those three guys, Ramirez is the only potential

531
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: thirty thirty guy that's it. At the end of the day,

532
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: he has hundred guy And I think that's that potential alone,

533
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: because he's the only guy really at this position who

534
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: can give you that. I think it's or at least

535
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: that we were counting on giving us that potentially. In

536
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, he's his own tier. Gunner Henderson at

537
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Speaker 1: number four, a guy that last year had a miserable

538
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: first half but was so good of the second. He

539
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: still scored one hundred runs, still drove in eighty two,

540
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: stole ten bags, hit two fifty five with twenty eight bombs.

541
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Speaker 1: Then after Gunner Henderson, you have Elie de la Cruz,

542
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: Many Machado, Royce Lewis, and then of course Alex Bregman

543
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: at eight. Now I'm gonna stop there and pump the

544
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: brakes here because I think this is where big time

545
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: conversations can happen. Henderson, Dela Cruz, Machado, Royce, Lewis Bregman.

546
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Speaker 1: What's the Welsh order of these guys, because I feel

547
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Speaker 1: like it's going to be very different potentially of what

548
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: it is right now in FP okay.

549
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Speaker 3: And now there's one caveat I want to do to

550
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: this because I didn't get to say it. I think

551
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: that Raphael Devers real quick might be one of the

552
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 3: most underrated players. And I have seen instances n n

553
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: FBC specifically where Ellie De la Cruz and Gunner Henderson

554
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Speaker 3: go ahead of him, and I think Devers is as

555
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: great of a plan B to Missing Riley or Jose

556
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: Ramirez as there is with those elite hard hit numbers,

557
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: highest of his career fifty five point one, second highest

558
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 3: barrel percentage.

559
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Speaker 2: I mean, he is just a monster. He's just a thirty.

560
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: Plus hundred hundred guy with high batting average that you love.

561
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: So now you go from like the safest dude, Austin

562
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 3: Riley and Raphael Devers are like the safest of safe

563
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: third basemen. You know you're getting awesome four categories they're

564
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 3: all going to play. Then you start coming down to

565
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Speaker 3: like Elie de la Cruz and Gunner Henderson.

566
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Speaker 2: So you asked me, how do I have these guys

567
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Speaker 2: set up?

568
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: I've gone back and forth on the Gunner and the Ellie,

569
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: and I will tell you I continuously do that. I

570
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 3: flip those two quite a bit. And I know some

571
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 3: people are gonna have Ellie out at this moment. I

572
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: am prioritizing Ellie over Gunner Henderson. And I know I'm critical.

573
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Speaker 1: About Ellie Delac you are, I'm surprised.

574
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Speaker 3: But one of the things, especially when you pay attention

575
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Speaker 3: to projections, and a lot of people have talked about

576
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: one of the deficiencies of Elie de la Cruz built

577
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: in is playing time, and a lot.

578
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: Of people talk about that. Yet you still see big numbers.

579
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Speaker 3: You see like almost twenty forty out of a lot

580
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Speaker 3: of projection systems, and his cost isn't.

581
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Speaker 2: As big in a lot of leagues.

582
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Speaker 3: Everybody here is playing, like if you play FBC, is

583
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: gonna be like a top twenty player, top twenty two player.

584
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 3: But that doesn't happen in probably seventy five percent of

585
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 3: most leagues because there is fear strikeout problems. If he

586
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: does struggle, could he be sent down. They've got a

587
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: plethora of great players that they could throw in there

588
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 3: at any time, so it's not unfeasible that he could

589
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: not be on this roster.

590
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Speaker 2: But he also puts up absolutely top.

591
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: Percentile hard hit numbers, top percentile speed numbers, and I

592
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: think he's gonna just continuously hit at the top of

593
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 3: the lineup until the wheels fall off. So the reason

594
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 3: he is down for a lot of these people saying

595
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: he's overrated is because they are projecting lower playing time

596
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: because it might fall apart. I'm gonna not I'm gonna

597
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 3: take a chance. In ten team, you can take bigger chances.

598
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: In twelve team, you can take it. Fifteen's a little

599
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: bit diceier. I'll go Ellie with those monster stats, even

600
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 3: though Gunner is pretty solid and then many Manny and

601
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: Royce is the next kind of tier of this position.

602
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: Manny also, by the way, looking like he is going

603
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: to start the season at least being able to DH

604
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: is a great sign, so he should come up.

605
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: We had this conversation a month ago. It was like,

606
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: this whole concern about Machado is completely overblown. If his

607
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: ADP and early drafts and Best Ball or stuff like that,

608
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: it's floating around there, just take advantage of it. Even

609
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: if it was a week or two in April, who cares.

610
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be fine socially with the DH

611
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: in the National League last couple of years. Lewis is

612
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: the guy that I'm targeting in this group. To me,

613
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: he's the best ROI. He gives you sole base potential,

614
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: which is something Bregman going right around that same spot

615
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: won't give you. He gives you batting average, which could

616
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: be higher than Bregman as well. So I'm fine with Alex.

617
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: Bregman is kind of like that. That's like a line

618
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm kind of drawing. I mean, if you want to

619
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: talk about Nolan Aeronaudo, a guy's been very steady throughout

620
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: his career, I feel like Bregman and Aeronaudo are kind

621
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: of I'm fine with them. Like third base to me,

622
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: is one of the deeper positions where I'm very comfortable

623
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: looking late for these guys. If I end up with

624
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: a Bregman, If I end up with an Aeronado, that's fine.

625
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: But Lewis is the guy that I want to target

626
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: because he gives me the upside for the batting average

627
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: and the upside for the stone bases and I think

628
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: power wise, he's gonna be in that twenty five is

629
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: range as well, just like those guys. But he's gonna

630
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: give me a little something extra. It's healthy, but that's

631
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: a big right now.

632
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: I think he's in his I think he's in the

633
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: above tier.

634
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 3: I you like Bregman a little bit more than me,

635
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: and maybe that is also some of the points that

636
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: sits in your head.

637
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: Like I don't really like him, iron infect his floor,

638
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: and I think often we get so wrapped up in

639
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: he gets so wrapped up in the potential of the

640
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: led other cruise of the world, who I also love

641
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: just like you. I mean, gosh, it was like the

642
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: unofficial mascot of the show last year. But at the

643
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: same time, especially if we're talking about salary cap drafts, right,

644
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: if you're telling me it's going to cost me an

645
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: extra fifteen dollars for that player, I'll take Bregman, I'll

646
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: take Aeronauto, I'll take you know, we're even ten dollars,

647
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: you know, potentially difference between him and Royce Lewis. Okay,

648
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: I'll save the ten bucks and I'll take Royce Lewis.

649
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's important, Like Eronado, is someone I

650
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: target because he just keeps falling like Bregman kind of falls.

651
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: Ernado is the last of all of those, and I

652
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: took him in my first DC I did, and I

653
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: will target him because I think you can get back in,

654
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: especially if this team kicks back, you can get back

655
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: into a twenty five to thirty one hundred hundred decent

656
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: batting average player. I think he is massively underrated. I

657
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: just don't believe Bregman has the power upside anymore. And

658
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: he does have a floor, but I think like Aeronaudo's

659
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: floor to his ceiling just feels better than what Bregman provides.

660
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: So like I'm just more down I guess on Bregman overall.

661
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: But I do agree with you on Aeronado and in

662
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: salary cap you're doing anything like that, Yeah, you do

663
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: pay attention to the dollar month.

664
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: That is important.

665
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: There's a huge difference of you getting Aeronautu at seven

666
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 3: dollars and having to pay fifty five for Ellie.

667
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: Sure, I would say it converts also to you know,

668
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: the same concept of rounds, like if you want to

669
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: get that extra pitcher and slide him in there in

670
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: those you know, mid early rounds. There you go, which

671
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: Ani round, which I tend to also because that's the

672
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: range where I like the pitchers so much in that ADP.

673
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: So to me, it makes a little bit more sense

674
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: to wait potentially on that outside of this top ten.

675
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 1: Now you're going to Josh Young, Spencer Steeer coming off

676
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: a great season, qualifies everywhere, which is good because you

677
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: figure get him in the lineup. Max Munsey, who I

678
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: don't care how many home runs yet I'm not touching

679
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: with a ten foot pole. Jake Berger coming off a

680
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: surprisingly fun season boom noelve, Marte Yandy Diaz, Cabrian Hayes,

681
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: who I just I don't know why we're still chasing that.

682
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: And then Perettis Nolan Gorman. I know some of our

683
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: friends in the industry. Still hio on Nolan Gorman two

684
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: twenty seven bombs still strikes out a lot for me.

685
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: But that's see that. This is the thing. It's like,

686
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: I like third base. Let me rephrase, I love third base.

687
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: When we get about ten deep after that, I don't

688
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: like it as much. I think this is where the

689
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: drop off gets very steep. Your thoughts, Yeah, I.

690
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: Think versus starters, like when you look and you're like, oh,

691
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: mid mid tier third baseman, I got Nolan Ernado or Lewis,

692
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: and then the lower on a fifteen team is like,

693
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: you know, they're like I'm starting Alec Boom.

694
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: You know, Like it's not that.

695
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Marte can be a great player. I do.

696
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: I think noelve, Marti has a lot to offer. I

697
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: think Diaz is a player. You know, we saw the

698
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: best of Daz last year, a career high twenty two

699
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: home runs, hit three thirty. Big fan of his as well,

700
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, but he's you know, plays one hundred and

701
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: thirty seven games every year, so it's like, you know,

702
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: I'd like to get a guy he was playing one

703
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five.

704
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well a lot of these guys.

705
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: What's weird is like Boom I think is good batting

706
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: average but low power. Yanda Diez can be the same thing,

707
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: really good batting average on base skills, but the power

708
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: doesn't really go key. Brian Hayes, he started hitting the

709
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: ball harder, tapping into those expected stats, but he steals bases,

710
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: doesn't have big power. So it's like, you know, you

711
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: want the consistent, big power bats, you've got to go

712
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 3: a little bit higher. I know you hate it. I

713
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: like Max Max Munsey. Still I'm still gonna take him.

714
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: I do think you have to pay attention to the

715
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: build because the batting average could be a problem. But

716
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: he had a two thirty five expected batting average, where

717
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: if he's hitting two thirty two forty you can live.

718
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: He had one of the you had a top ten

719
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: percentile expected slug this past year.

720
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: He huge walk still big.

721
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: Power numbers when the batting average struggled, and it's the

722
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: fricking Dodgers, like that team is ridiculous, and current roster

723
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: resources got him around four or five in that lineup.

724
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: So RBIs are going to go over a hundred. He

725
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: hit over one hundred RBIs while hitting garbage last year.

726
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: So if you see an improvement, Max Munsey might be

727
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: a really great, big power bet that you can't get

728
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: in later rounds. But you do got to pay attention to,

729
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: like what's the rest of your bill. You don't want

730
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: like the lees, or you don't want like super low

731
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: batting average, or you're gonna end up punting the position.

732
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: But Max Munsey is probably a target for me. But

733
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: again I will say I little want to cheat a

734
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: little bit like I love these guys just my corner infielders.

735
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: I love the idea of Max Mounsey as a corner

736
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: infielder for the flexibility and not as a starter. So

737
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: I am prioritizing getting a higher third baseman. Nolan Aernado's

738
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: kind of my cutoff of what I want at third base.

739
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: If i'm you know, if I have the choice. Sometimes

740
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: you don't deep fifteen teen leagues, you're screwed.

741
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: But in ten and.

742
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: Twelve team leagues, I don't want to let the position

743
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: fall off because I'd rather take the elite guys and

744
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: then depth I can play at the corner, the corner spot.

745
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: Max Munsey had a great April and a great July,

746
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: and everything else outside of that was ah, we're talking.

747
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: He hit one eleven in June, he hit one eighty

748
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: six in May. I mean two seventeen in July to

749
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: twenty six in September. If the power starts to drop

750
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: off at all, it's going to be a dangerous, dangerous slope.

751
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, let's get to shortstop because that's a

752
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: lot more fun. Bobby Wood Junior at the top, Trey

753
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: Turner at number two, Corey Seger at number three. Francisco

754
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: Lindor another guy. Last year we talked about why is

755
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: Lindor being faded so much in drafts? It was stupid

756
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: because he had a thirty thirty season. I know he

757
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: hit two fifty four, but I don't care ninety eight RBI,

758
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight run scored. He is an elite

759
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: fantasy player still, folks, even if the Mets are far

760
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: from an elite team. That to me is the grouping

761
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: those four guys. I assume you want to put Bobby

762
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: Wit on a pedestal above them, though, yes.

763
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm putting the win on a pedestal for sure,

764
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: and then Turner, Seger, and Lindor are their own.

765
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that makes a ton of sense.

766
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: I think I feel very comfortable with that. Lindor, once again,

767
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: if you're talking about salary cap leagues, maybe the best value,

768
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: because he probably will become the cheapest of them most likely.

769
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: The Turner cost is going to be interesting this year

770
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: because you know, at the end of the day, you

771
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: step back and you look at what happened, and I know,

772
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, people were just bringing their hands most of

773
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: the season, but at the end of the day still

774
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: was a twenty five Homer thirty steel guy. As we

775
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: talked about many times here on the show so far

776
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: this year, the evolution or re evolution and reinvention of

777
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: the game with stolen bases being so much easier to find,

778
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: is Trey Turner still in your mind and asset people

779
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: should be chasing or you better off I don't know,

780
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: kind of sitting back and waiting if you don't get

781
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: Bobby Witt and maybe going with some other names we're

782
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: going to talk about on this list that are going

783
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: to come at a cheaper cost.

784
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: Man, I wish you didn't ask it like that, because

785
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: it's a great question. I kind of think I'm not

786
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: into Trey Turner, like to what you're saying, he doesn't

787
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: provide elite stolen bases. Power definitely upticked. It was a

788
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: little bit streakul like he's a great player. But like

789
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: you mentioned, Corey Seeger, Corey Seeger is going to be

790
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: a value this year because of that hernia surgery, which

791
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: the expectation is he's going to be ready for the

792
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: opening day because he's just gonna ramp up. Wasn't going

793
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: to play a whole bunch and he can DH for

794
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: the team and he could end up being a value.

795
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: So here's the problem. Can Trey Turner still return his value? Yes,

796
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: of course I think that's a possibility. But when you

797
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: start to look at the returns in other spots, Corey

798
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: Seger now going from where he was in the high

799
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: teens to in a twelve team league, an instance is

800
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 3: going in the third round. I'd rather have that same

801
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: thing with lind Or. Lindor between a second and third

802
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: round player, I think the return is better for the

803
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: big bats we've talked about that you can take instead

804
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: of Turner, and then you go down the list, they're

805
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: definitely is value. I mean shortstop nine to short stop

806
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: I mean shortstop twelve on this list is my have

807
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: to draft every single team this year player. So yes,

808
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: I think without the big hardcore eliteness, he's just a

809
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: totally fine player that to me gets lost in the

810
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: wind a little bit, and I don't prioritize him anymore

811
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: because he's not like fifty sixty stolen bases.

812
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: So Gunnar Henderson I have five over on Fantasy Pros

813
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: than Bob Baschett, whose stolen bases have been cut in half.

814
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: Two consecutive seasons, by the way, So that's a guy

815
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: the real blue Stone base hasn't gone down the right direction. Yeah,

816
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: so that's over. Elie Dela Cruz CJ Abrams, a guy

817
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: who we talked about last year on the show being

818
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: one of those great values that is gonna cost you

819
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: nothing to find out and guess what forty seven stone

820
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: bases later. I know he's a divisive figure. We'll talk

821
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: about him in a second. Matt McClain at ten, Nico

822
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: Horner at eleven, and then O'Neil Cruz at twelve. I

823
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: agree with you. If you're gonna take a shot in

824
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: the dark here as you get later, why not O'Neil Cruz.

825
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've said it like a good jillion times over.

826
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: It's so annoying.

827
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 3: Someone tweeted me, I think like as we were doing

828
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: this about about like there's gonna.

829
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: Bead I should have.

830
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 2: I don't blame I don't blame them again.

831
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: By the way, they tweeted Welsh just twenty year burners

832
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: one of if I can you know cheat again. I

833
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 3: love the idea of O'Neill as my middle infielder. It's

834
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: unfair to others. That's what I love about it. If

835
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 3: you do it, you might be taken away for another spot,

836
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: So it just might not be ideal. But he is

837
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: the player I want to draft on every even if

838
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: I have a shortstop, because there's obviously some injury worries,

839
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 3: so if I have the ability, I think I've said

840
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 3: this on one of the episodes we did, Bobaschett and O'Neal,

841
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: Cruise might be an incredible pairing O'Neill or Bobaschet. High

842
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: batting average, You're gonna have good run, good RBI totals,

843
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: if the power comes back, he doesn't steal. You could

844
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: pair him with a Cruise that might have a deficiency

845
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: in batting average, but he's going to hit for power,

846
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 3: he's going to have stolen bases. I more aggressive than

847
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 3: any other position, trying to get too top twelve to

848
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: two top fifteen shortstops, one to start and one in

849
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: my middle infield, and it's usually not Bobachet. Unfortunately, it's

850
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: usually not Abrams because of the high cost. It is

851
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: something more like I took an Elite one and then

852
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: I take O'Neal Cruise later, and if that doesn't happen,

853
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: the other pairing.

854
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: I love.

855
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: He's a player we haven't talked about yet. I would

856
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: go O'Neal cruise in Sandra Bogart.

857
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, stole it from me, you jerk, all right,

858
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: So Kim at thirteen, Bogart's was the guy that I

859
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: was all hyped up to talk about. You can still

860
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: be here to do it. That's not the same now,

861
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: but he look in nineteen nineteen season twenty twenty basically

862
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: last year, you remember wash, I was like, he's being

863
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: overdrafted last year and here's the perfect example. Like it's

864
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: not that I hate the player. I hated the ADP

865
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: last year and he drove in just fifty eight runs.

866
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: He did it too, eighty five. He was fine, But

867
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, we got to get those RBI back up.

868
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: We got to, you know, get that working a little bit.

869
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: But to me, Bogarts is that perfect guy where if

870
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait on short stop, Bogarts is the dude

871
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: for me. I think we have our new.

872
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: I think we have our first shirt of twenty twenty four.

873
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: Don't hate the player, hate the eighty ADP instead of

874
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 3: the game. I think that's our first Fantasy Pro shirt.

875
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: Let's doing other things I'm full of a lot of stuff.

876
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: Xander bogarts at fourteen, Dansby Swanson comes in at fifteen. Uh,

877
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: not surprised with the drop off. There another guy too

878
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: where the rules change and he stole less basis, so

879
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: go figure. The batting average went back down to the

880
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: two forties after being at two seventy seven, So you know, look, Swanson,

881
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: you maybe adjustment to Chicago. Whatever it is, the power

882
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: was still there. He's also fine. William Damas another guy

883
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: who you know, I think we all look at in

884
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: kind of this. These guys feel like a clump to

885
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: me that I'm okay with. And that's the thing. It's

886
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: like short stop for me. It's like if I don't

887
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: get Bobby witt or Lindor at a good price, I'm

888
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: in a bargain shop here for Xander Boguards, even Swanson.

889
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: I look, I've watched a lot Anthony Volpie in person,

890
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: and I know he's a much better player than when

891
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: he showed last year. And I would not be surprised.

892
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: You know, even with all his struggles, he was still

893
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty player last year. His batting average is

894
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna be much better this season. I'm telling you he's

895
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: just a much better player. I think he's just he

896
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: just pressed so hard last year. He is a very

897
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: Dustin Pedroia esque sort of guy in terms of makeup

898
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: and in terms of game. I know, other side of

899
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: the plate, but still like when I watched him, that's

900
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: the kind of player he reminded me of. And I

901
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: think he is another one that I'm circling Layton drafts

902
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take another shot at Oolpy.

903
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: Listen, dude, you if I screw up this O'Neil cruiz

904
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 3: thing and it gets too high, Anthony Volpi might bolby

905
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: that version. Yeah, it could be an easy twenty five

906
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: to twenty five guy. He has proven to hit for

907
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: average in the past, and he is overcombatting average issues

908
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: in a hit or friendly environment.

909
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: I don't think it is.

910
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: Ridiculous to say that Volpi, if you look at value

911
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: at this point, might be one of the best values

912
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: on the counting stats.

913
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: That you can get.

914
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: So again, go take a safe one, get yourself as

915
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: Xander Bogart's if you missed out, or you go super

916
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: high and get a Corey Seeger come back later middle infield,

917
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: get Anthony Volpi.

918
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: I I love Volger. Yeah, Bogart's ball good. It's Harry Palta.

919
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: What's your Patrones Yeah, yours is yours is Rico program.

920
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: I'll show you.

921
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: But seriously, I like that the Volpi is the secondary guy.

922
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: With Bolger, you're only your go Bogarts has that floor again,

923
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: which we need to respect the floor a little bit more.

924
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: I think it's just something that in fantasy baseball some

925
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: sort of get too locked into projectability and not enough

926
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: about well, you know, the Alex Bregman's of the world,

927
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: but the Xander Brograts of the world. Those guys are

928
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: just gonna win you leagues because they're coming at really

929
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: solid ADPs. And it's natural progression because the youth of

930
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball the last two to three seasons has

931
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: been off the charts good. So there's that anticipation of

932
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: wanting to be ahead of the curve all the time.

933
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: We sort of neglect the proven assets and it's something

934
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: I think that this season, the way the ADP structures

935
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: out totally like that. Let's talk about the catchers. We'll

936
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: get these guys in your Adley Rutchman, he is the

937
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: one the catcher. No debate about that yes, uh yeah, absolutely, Okay,

938
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: Now you're putting him in a tier, or you're gonna

939
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: put Real Muto, will Smith Contreras with.

940
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: Him adly is in his own tier, and then the

941
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: next tier is empty because I wouldn't take them, and

942
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: then the next tier after that, the third tier is

943
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 3: where we'll start to consider some players.

944
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: So where does that start for you? So it's Real Muto,

945
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: Will Smith, Contreras, stop me when you want to start

946
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: drafting somebody.

947
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: Now it's really oh that I want to start drafting somebody.

948
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so start over, because.

949
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: This is like the game on the price is right

950
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: with the little yodeler guy has he continues to go op.

951
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: So start at the very tippy start at the very

952
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: tippy top, and I will I'll yodel when I'll take

953
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: a guy.

954
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, even though we're going down the hill, it's

955
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: the metaphors still.

956
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got so.

957
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: Rutchman, we love him. After that, Real Muto will Smith

958
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: number four, Contreras number five, Diaz number six, cal Rawley seven, Salparez, Yo,

959
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: you're really going here? Sean Murphy at eight, Wilson Contreras, Francisco. Yeah,

960
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: let's go Francisco Alvarez. Let's talk about him. He can't

961
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: finished last year with twenty five bombs. I know he

962
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: hit just two o eight, but again, a better hitter

963
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues that we saw in the major

964
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: league level. This is another player that we already seen

965
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: the power. Now we just got to put the rest

966
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: of the game together. And I always think it's tough

967
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: for rookie catchers. Young catchers, they're managing pitching staffs, they

968
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: got a lot in their mind. Offense tends to come

969
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: a little later for these guys. So why do you

970
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: like Alvarez so much?

971
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gotten into incredible shape this past offseason that

972
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: he has spent the entire offseason working through trimming down,

973
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: which is going to just improve more bat speed. You

974
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: had power last year, you have small sample size too.

975
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: Improvement into a sophomore year, I think he's going to

976
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: take a big, big step forward. He is an offensive

977
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: first catcher, he always has been. So the point of this,

978
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: I actually was yodling at Wilson Contreras, but Alvarez was

979
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 3: the same thing.

980
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: I want Lake catchers.

981
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 3: If I had I thought you I was gonna expense,

982
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: but it was I kind of was actually going like,

983
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: do I want to do this Alvarez to contraraers. I

984
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: want both of those guys, and actually Alvarez is a

985
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: dramatic target, but I want Moreno, I want Alvarez and

986
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: I want.

987
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: Contrerasts because they're going to go near the bottom.

988
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: And I think the difference between them and what you're

989
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: getting at the top is minute. I don't think it

990
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 3: is big enough to pay a top one hundred cost. Now,

991
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: last thing, real quick. The cost is inflated because of NFBC.

992
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: I say this all the time. So the rankings of

993
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: catchers look weird, and it screws up ADPs because they

994
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: are two catcher leagues building them up. There's one catcher

995
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: in the top ten I probably reach for in a

996
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: single and it's Yon your Diaz because of the big

997
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: numbers with the Astros. But Alvarez, Contreras, Mario, Ohapi, Garver,

998
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: those are my targets fifteen team teams later. Two catcher

999
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: leagues are different.

1000
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm surprised you put Marina on that conversation

1001
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: with Contreras and Alvarez just because the best batting average

1002
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: hit well, I guess that's the whole thing. It's the

1003
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: batting average, you know, give up there.

1004
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: Power is gonna come.

1005
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: I believe early.

1006
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 3: I think I think you're gonna get to You're gonna

1007
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: get seventeen to twenty this year. He gets high batting average,

1008
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: he might even hit three for this team whilst they

1009
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: did it in the World Series, and they did in

1010
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: the playoffs. And if he gets back into that spot,

1011
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna have RBI numbers come up.

1012
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 2: They love marine.

1013
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: If he hits three hundred or two eighty five with

1014
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: seventeen homers, he's going to be the number three catcher

1015
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: on this list of them, and it is.

1016
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: Possible all of all the catchers on this I think

1017
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: he is the most likely to be one of those

1018
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: tippy top guys.

1019
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: Plus he can steal a little bit. Moreno is an

1020
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 2: incredible athlete.

1021
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: So him's a twelve. Then o'hapi, who you mentioned. That's

1022
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: a guy that I like to target late too. In fact,

1023
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: in single catcher leagues, give me Ohape, give me Alvarez.

1024
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: Moreno's fine towo, especially in points because I do like

1025
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: the batting average and head to head points leagues. After that,

1026
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: you're going with ruiz Bow Naylor, Mitch Garver, Campusano, Stevenson Kirk,

1027
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: and then Diaz in Colorado at twenty Danny Jansen just

1028
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: outside the top twenty. But in two catcher leagues, for

1029
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: those of you who are still playing them, Welsh, what

1030
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: your approach you're just trying to hammer that middle or

1031
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: do you want to just you know, kind of take

1032
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: one steady guy, maybe one reach and then one you know,

1033
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: star scrub kind of thing.

1034
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 3: So my two DC's one of them I took, like,

1035
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: excuse me, I took like a middle guy.

1036
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember who. I think it was Sean Murphy.

1037
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: Who fell, and then I ended up taking a later

1038
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 3: got Mitch Garver, I think it was. And then in

1039
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: my other one, I waited really late and I took

1040
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: Luis Campusano, and I ended up before you signed. It

1041
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: took Gary Sanchez, and Gary Sanchez signed.

1042
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: To be the backup in Milwaukee.

1043
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: But don't look now, because you're not going to pay

1044
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: him what they did for him to not play games.

1045
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: He might catch.

1046
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 3: The contres has played in the outfield before I could

1047
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: see them switching it around. So the bottom line is,

1048
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: in two catcher leagues, I'm not gonna pay up for two.

1049
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: I will be fine for paying for one, but I'm

1050
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: probably hitting one of the middle tier guys, targetingy on

1051
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 3: Ere or Murphy or Salvi or like we said, the

1052
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: contraras Alvarez. And then I'm gonna push a little bit down.

1053
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: Give me a Mitch Garver who's gonna DH for the Mariners,

1054
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: or Luis Campusano who's gonna start for the Padres.

1055
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: That's my two catcher strategy.

1056
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: Well, there you have it, folks, that's our rundown of

1057
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: the ultimate infield guy. But who are your favorites of

1058
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: each position? We want to hear from? You? Drop your

1059
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,360
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1060
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,800
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00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,959
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1062
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,600
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1064
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,200
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1065
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: like well, sometimes who drifts off in the middle of

1066
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: anything I'm saying, which I don't blame him most of

1067
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,280
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Speaker 1: everything's gonna be here on the channel, including leading off

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Speaker 1: starting I believe in April, maybe March. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how things go here, but we'll be live

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Speaker 1: every single day here on the channel for you, talking fantasy,

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Speaker 1: talking wagering, talking baseball, every single day. Beautiful time to

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Speaker 1: be alive. That'll do it for us, But the story

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Speaker 1: of the game goes on for the Welsh. I'm Joey P.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time, kids. Joey