WEBVTT - Ken Rosenthal’s Trade Talk Q&A

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<v Speaker 1>It's the inside scoop of FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do a little trade talk and speculation, shall we. Ken,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get into some of your notes column

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<v Speaker 1>that was put up in The Athletic yesterday. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to start with Seya Suzuki and the Chicago Cubs and

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<v Speaker 1>what you wrote about there and the possibility that he

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<v Speaker 1>could be moved at the deadline. What do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>With than anything, But there is a lot of basis

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<v Speaker 2>to it. And here's the deal. So, right handed hitting

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<v Speaker 2>in the game is at a premium right now. There

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<v Speaker 2>aren't many quality right handed hitters available or even in

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<v Speaker 2>the major leagues. The ops by right handed hitters is

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<v Speaker 2>like the lowest since nineteen ninety two or would be.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one element why Suzuki could be in some demand.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing here is that the Cubs, even

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<v Speaker 2>after signing Nico Horners, still have a number of potential

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<v Speaker 2>free agents. It's in Hap, it's Suzuki, it's ti im Naga, Boyd.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to sign all of them, so they

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<v Speaker 2>might not even make qualifying offers to all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you want to get something back and in

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<v Speaker 2>the process shake up a team that until last night

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<v Speaker 2>at least has looked I don't know, wildly inconsistent. It

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't looked like it. They've played wildly inconsistent, and go

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<v Speaker 2>about it that way. Now. The negative would be, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>removing Suzuki's bat from the lineup. He had a home

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<v Speaker 2>run last night. But they could go with Matt Shaw,

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<v Speaker 2>they could go with kind of a platoon there and

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<v Speaker 2>figure things out along the way with Confordo. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying it's going to happen. I'm just saying there

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot of reason to believe it could happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and something that I imagined they would at least discuss rather

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<v Speaker 2>than get just a draft pick back in return at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Ken, I love the way you're thinking right now. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>all for it kind of. But my thing is, he's

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that's been there before. I'm big on veteran guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm big on guys that have been there before. They

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<v Speaker 3>are only one game out of the wild card. I

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<v Speaker 3>understand they haven't been playing well, but this is a team.

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<v Speaker 3>If they do make the playoffs, they're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a team to be reckoned with. Once injuries come back

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<v Speaker 3>and guys start playing the way they can. So my

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<v Speaker 3>question would be, why do you think this makes you

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<v Speaker 3>talked about a little bit, But I don't really think

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<v Speaker 3>it makes sense right now to really be trading anybody there.

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<v Speaker 3>I know they're seven and a half games out. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you think do you think in the NL Central they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a shot to get back in there?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, I totally hear you and the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of trading him now, the thing I didn't mention should

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<v Speaker 2>have is that maybe you get pitching back and they're

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<v Speaker 2>pitching or at least that rotation is kind of in shambles.

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<v Speaker 2>Borton's out for the year, Steele still hasn't come back,

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<v Speaker 2>Boyd has yet to come back from his thing, Cabrera

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<v Speaker 2>his time earlier. Tyone is on the IL as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't do it. I don't think for prospects.

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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to win this year. But if there is

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<v Speaker 2>a picture under control somehow you could get in a

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<v Speaker 2>package or even a pitcher who, like Suzuki, is a

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<v Speaker 2>potential free agent that could simply kind of rebalance your team,

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<v Speaker 2>give you more pitching. That is when you do it,

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<v Speaker 2>or that is why you do it. You don't do

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<v Speaker 2>it simply to play for next year, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>give up on this year. But maybe you can make

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<v Speaker 2>your team better this year in some fashion by doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we were talking a little bit before about

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<v Speaker 3>Trek schoobl my opinion, this is a guy that needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be traded. I feel like that team would get

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<v Speaker 3>a a lot of players back. I don't see them

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<v Speaker 3>in a foreseeable future, even when he does come back

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturday, go out there and dominate and make the playoffs. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>is this a guy you can see getting traded? Or

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<v Speaker 3>do you think the Tigers are going to try and

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<v Speaker 3>make a run out of this thing and try and

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<v Speaker 3>fight their way back into a playoff contention.

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<v Speaker 2>It's June twelfth, thot. They're not going to make a

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<v Speaker 2>decision today. You know that and I know that too,

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<v Speaker 2>So they're going going to ride this recent wave as

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<v Speaker 2>long as they can. But the point I made last week,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wrote this, I guess about a week and

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<v Speaker 2>a half ago. They're starting from sixteen games under five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and in the current format, which began in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two, the current expanded format, no team has made

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<v Speaker 2>it back from that big a hole. Now, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>relatively small sample, I know, and the AL Central certainly

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<v Speaker 2>is weak. The AL certainly is weak. So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>out of the question that the Tigers can push and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe get this done. But what are we talking about here?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we talking about making the playoffs? Okay, they can

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<v Speaker 2>maybe do that, or are we talking about a serious

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<v Speaker 2>World Series contender in this particular season. Maybe with schoolbl

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<v Speaker 2>and Mis coming back this weekend as well, they can

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<v Speaker 2>be that. It's just going to be an awfully difficult

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<v Speaker 2>roadback for them. And I had an executive point out

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and this is a great point. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the Actually it's kind of obvious, but basically, they're

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<v Speaker 2>in a position where they can't go into a losing

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<v Speaker 2>streak again. They've got to keep going and they've got

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<v Speaker 2>to keep winning. It's still like eleven twelve under right now,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's going to be a tough road for them.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why, ultimately I do believe that they will

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<v Speaker 2>trade Schooble rather than hold on to him and again

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<v Speaker 2>make the qualifying offer and get the draft pick.

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<v Speaker 5>He Ken, I'm curious about another player Lars Nubar and

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<v Speaker 5>kind of the cardinal side of this dynamic. It's flipped

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<v Speaker 5>from the two teams we just talked about. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>the Cubs and the Tigers both come into this year

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<v Speaker 5>with high expectations and then you know, if it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>go their way, then you know, you consider pivoting into

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<v Speaker 5>a seller at the deadline. Cardinals are in the reverse.

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<v Speaker 5>They were coming in in a rebuilding year, a developmental year.

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<v Speaker 5>Now they're playing pretty good baseball. They do have a

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<v Speaker 5>couple more chips if they want to cash them in,

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<v Speaker 5>but what do you think they need to show ownership?

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<v Speaker 5>And heine Bloom, you know that maybe they could build

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<v Speaker 5>on this instead of you know and kind of pivot

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<v Speaker 5>off that plan. And does this have any parallel for

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<v Speaker 5>you to the twenty twenty one Red Sox where we

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<v Speaker 5>were also so when that type of plan with him

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<v Speaker 5>at the helm and then we started winning and then

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<v Speaker 5>we actually actually went for it. So it's a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit of an interesting dynamic, and I'd love to get

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<v Speaker 5>your read on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam absolutely right, and I hadn't thought of the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one Red Sox, but that's a good comparison. The only

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<v Speaker 2>difference is the Red Sox that season. The Red Sox

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<v Speaker 2>in no season are ever rebuilding. They may be in transition,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're never like what the Cardinals were this off

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<v Speaker 2>season when they traded Arnatto and Gray and Contraras and Donovan.

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<v Speaker 2>They were purely rebuilding and are purely poorly rebuilding. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>my understanding of this is is that heim Blum is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to simply ignore the standings and say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I don't care that we're in a wildcard spot,

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<v Speaker 2>the top wildcard spot. Now, we're just gonna keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna keep trading veterans. No, they may do that

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<v Speaker 2>if they believe it's ultimately in their best interests, but

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<v Speaker 2>they will not if they are still in this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of position at the deadline, and remember talking six or

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<v Speaker 2>seven weeks away. They will not simply abandon the season.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't expect the White Sox to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even expect the Nationals to do that if

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<v Speaker 2>they are in a position where they have even an

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<v Speaker 2>outside chance of making the playoffs. So what do you

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<v Speaker 2>do at that point? Nutbart is a really interesting guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Donovan, he is someone you can look to as

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<v Speaker 2>a player you build around. He is that kind of presence,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of leader. But they traded Donovan, they traded

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<v Speaker 2>him with two years of control because they are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to upgrade their pitching. Nut Bart could be another player

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<v Speaker 2>who helps them upgrade their pitching. Switch hitter guy who

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<v Speaker 2>would be in demand if his heels are okay, they

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<v Speaker 2>look like they are, he had a home run last night,

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<v Speaker 2>if he continues to play at a high level or

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<v Speaker 2>resumes playing at a high level. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be an interesting choice for them because they might be

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<v Speaker 2>in a spot where they can say, arguably, okay, we're

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<v Speaker 2>trading laws Nutbar, but we're not up. Depends what they

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<v Speaker 2>get back, of course, and maybe they do something else

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<v Speaker 2>to reinforce themselves in the outfield in another way. There

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<v Speaker 2>are all kinds of ways you can go, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are all in the habit of labeling teams buyers or sellers,

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<v Speaker 2>when in reality many teams do both. At the deadline,

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<v Speaker 2>they're kind of just shaking up their.

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<v Speaker 3>Mixed A grade one hundred percent. Now back to the

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<v Speaker 3>al Central the Guardians. I know they just got beat

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<v Speaker 3>up by the Yankees. Ultimately, I feel like this team

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<v Speaker 3>is going to strike come trade deadline. To try and

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<v Speaker 3>get over the hump to win their division as well.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a great farm system. Do you see this

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<v Speaker 3>team making any moves as we move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Todd, because they do have a great

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<v Speaker 2>farm system, and I detail that in my notes column

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<v Speaker 2>how they're really deep infielders, catchers, outfielders. But they are

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<v Speaker 2>a team because they play in a small market that

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<v Speaker 2>are very protective of their prospects. They are also a

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<v Speaker 2>team that if you talk to other clubs, they will

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<v Speaker 2>tell you they're hard to deal with in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>that they set their price and they don't come off it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not flexible, they don't get emotional. They just do

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<v Speaker 2>what they do, and obviously they do a great job

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<v Speaker 2>of it. They're competitive almost every season. So in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>they're in a position where they are kind of bursting

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<v Speaker 2>with prospects and kind of need to do something, and

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<v Speaker 2>I expect that they will, perhaps with a catcher. They've

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<v Speaker 2>got three in Triple A right now, all of whom

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<v Speaker 2>they like. One was bon Naylor, who just got demoted

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<v Speaker 2>when they acquired Patrick Bailey, and they've got two other

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<v Speaker 2>prospects who are pretty well regarded, Cooper Ingele and Cody Huff,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know exactly how they're going to play this.

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<v Speaker 2>They made a small trade with Nolan Jones last night,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was, and they traded him because they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't find enough at bats for their outfielders in Triple A.

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<v Speaker 2>Problems still exists to some extent. So they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a really interesting team to watch because they are

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<v Speaker 2>are a team that clearly could do some things, and

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<v Speaker 2>they also are a team that did very little in

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<v Speaker 2>the offseason. Why because hey, we've got Bizana coming, We've

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<v Speaker 2>got all of these infielders, we've got the laughter coming.

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<v Speaker 2>They are a really interesting group in that sense and

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<v Speaker 2>will be a team to watch for sure at the deadline.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about another team right next door, the Chicago White Sox.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna roll with more comedy. I love everything about this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a team that took everybody by surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're up a half game right now. How

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<v Speaker 3>did they approach the trade deadline? As we move forward here,

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<v Speaker 3>they're kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the American League version of the Cardinals. Maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit hungrier to win because it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a while, or they've had some really rough years, but

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<v Speaker 2>Murra comedy is coming back, Teal is coming back, the

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<v Speaker 2>catcher Kyle Teal. They're going to be quite interesting offensively,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are quite interesting offensively even without more comedy

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<v Speaker 2>con you to score. So I expect that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to look for pitching. I expect if they're in this

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<v Speaker 2>position still, they're going to try to get pitching. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't expect them to trade top prospects, because, like the Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 2>they're still building toward a more sustainable future. To use

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<v Speaker 2>executives speak there for a minute. So yeah, I do

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<v Speaker 2>expect they'll be active and busy. I just don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how far they'll go. And they are another team deep

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<v Speaker 2>in infielders already, and they've got the number one pick

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<v Speaker 2>in the draft coming up. Could conceivably take an infielder

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<v Speaker 2>at number one, the guy from UCLA, the kid from

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's from Texas. They could take one of

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<v Speaker 2>these kids and supplement themselves even more, giving them even

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<v Speaker 2>more depth in the infield. To do some things at

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<v Speaker 2>the deadline. It doesn't have to be and it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be for a rental pitcher. It could be you trade

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<v Speaker 2>a young infielder for a young pitcher on the verge

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<v Speaker 2>of the big leagues and go about it that way.

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<v Speaker 5>That's intriguing for sure. I gotta love what the White

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<v Speaker 5>Sox are doing for a team that I think that

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<v Speaker 5>the incentives might be a little kakamemi here as the Angels,

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<v Speaker 5>so they're in last place. They're not technically out of

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<v Speaker 5>it because nobody is in the American League, but odds

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<v Speaker 5>of them being not in last place seem pretty low

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<v Speaker 5>to me. And typically you would think this is a

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<v Speaker 5>clear seller. However, you've got last year of contract for

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<v Speaker 5>general manager, only a one year contract on the actual manager,

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<v Speaker 5>and so there's a little bit more of an incentive

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<v Speaker 5>to try to push through this. What's your read on

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<v Speaker 5>the situation over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken Adam, You kind of said it kaka mami. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how they operate, and they're hard to follow. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily do what you think they're going to do at

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<v Speaker 2>any time. They have not ever sold in a big way.

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<v Speaker 2>They are a team that always seems to think they're

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<v Speaker 2>on the verge of doing something, and it would be

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<v Speaker 2>surprising to me if they traded a netto or a

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<v Speaker 2>debt merch they could and they could get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>for either of those guys, But it just doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be something Ardie Moreno, as their owner, is comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>doing that kind of trade, much less trout, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a whole nother story. So I'm not sure what to

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<v Speaker 2>expect from them, because, as you mentioned, they're in an

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<v Speaker 2>uncertain dynamic with both their general manager and manager. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna let the general manager go at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the season, you don't want him doing a

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<v Speaker 2>deconstruction at the deadline. You want the next guy doing

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<v Speaker 2>it if you're willing to do it at all. So

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<v Speaker 2>I always have a hard time kind of reading what

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<v Speaker 2>the Angels might do or not do. They could have

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<v Speaker 2>traded Sho Heo Tani for a big package a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago and didn't do it. They could have possibly

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<v Speaker 2>kept show Heo Tani when you offered the seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars deal to every team, and they were the

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<v Speaker 2>one team that said, naw, we're not gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm trying to figure them out always and never can.

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<v Speaker 3>My most intriguing guy for me that you might not

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<v Speaker 3>agree with me, but at the same time, I love

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<v Speaker 3>this guy to death, Jared Duran. I think he's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most fascinating players. I got to play with

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<v Speaker 3>him one time. He's fast, he does everything. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he needs to change the scenery, in my opinion, get off,

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<v Speaker 3>get on a team that is ready to rock and go.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he loves it there. How do you see

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<v Speaker 3>trade talks with him coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>If any, Well, Tom, I'm with you, and their team

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<v Speaker 2>president Sam Kennedy said yesterday on the radio that if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't turn it around, they may be in a

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<v Speaker 2>position where they are sellers. So if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 2>you arguably should have traded Duran bre Rafaela one of

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<v Speaker 2>these outfielders in the offseason, and Duran was the one

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<v Speaker 2>that was kind of the obvious choice. He's got the

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<v Speaker 2>fewest amount of years left before he becomes a free agent.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they didn't do that, now, if they are

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<v Speaker 2>in cell mode or anything close to sell mode, he

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<v Speaker 2>will be in demand again. And he is a really intriguing,

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<v Speaker 2>exciting player. So I'm with you they should entertain that. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they're in it, if Anthony is healthy, they

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<v Speaker 2>still have not an excess of outfielders, but they have

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<v Speaker 2>the ability to trade an outfielder. They haven't done that,

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<v Speaker 2>and who knows if they will or not. But if

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<v Speaker 2>they go into a deadline believing that they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a contending team this year and are willing

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<v Speaker 2>to move pieces, I would think he would be at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the list.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Ken, last one for you. In the notes column,

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<v Speaker 1>you finished with the ABS system and just a little note,

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<v Speaker 1>a little nugget, So I want to see if you

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<v Speaker 1>could share that and then lighten everyone on the misconceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. My perception from just watching games anecdotally was Man,

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<v Speaker 2>the game's a longer. They're getting a longer again, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe ABS is the problem here. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I asked the league for the data for the

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<v Speaker 2>information on this, I was told, really, they're only four

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<v Speaker 2>minutes longer than they were last year, and the league

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<v Speaker 2>believes that only one minute of that is attributable to ABS,

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<v Speaker 2>and the other parts of it are just the noise

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<v Speaker 2>or differences that come season to seasons. So what you

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<v Speaker 2>might think is happening with ABS lengthening games is not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>So from that perspective, and actually all perspectives, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>that this is a hit, and there have been obviously

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<v Speaker 2>questions about the zone and how pictures are adapting, but

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<v Speaker 2>they seem to be adapting. I was told earlier this

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<v Speaker 2>season by an umpire the pictures were going to be

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<v Speaker 2>screaming and yelling and they're going to be having fits

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<v Speaker 2>by May, and that hasn't happened. Everyone's adjusting fine. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that ABS has been a success and

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<v Speaker 2>it has not been a detriment to the pace of play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, roaring success just for me fan perspective, and talking

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<v Speaker 1>to many fans can like, I can't find anyone that's going, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like this. I mean it's fun, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not extending the time. I just there's not much wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Are there a few little tweaks we got to

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<v Speaker 1>think about. Sure, But for the fan experience, they are

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<v Speaker 1>loving it. I'm sure you feel the same way when

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<v Speaker 1>you're at the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel the same way. They are loving it.

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<v Speaker 2>They've loved it from the beginning. And you have to

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<v Speaker 2>give the lead credit here and the commissioner credit because

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<v Speaker 2>the pitch clock, which was something that was not entirely

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<v Speaker 2>embraced by the players initially, and ABS the same. They

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<v Speaker 2>have both proven to be absolute additions to the game

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<v Speaker 2>that have proven beneficial.

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<v Speaker 1>One more quick note on this, Ken, because often the

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<v Speaker 1>decision makers are you know, can involve players, front office executives, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>That are talking about the rules of the game. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you guys are too deep into it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know, Like a front office executive's job is

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<v Speaker 1>to win games, right, and that's why sometimes the game

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<v Speaker 1>got slower and they're just looking for three true outcomes

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. So I like the way that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to let some other people kind of handle the

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<v Speaker 1>way the sport's being viewed. I might not have conveyed

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<v Speaker 1>that the best way, but the point is that you

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<v Speaker 1>might play it. That doesn't mean you're an expert on

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<v Speaker 1>what people like to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And this is always a question, and it's always debatable,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of these innovations have been debatable. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>credit where credit is due. Pitchclock success abs success, both

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<v Speaker 2>of them, I would say overwhelming successes. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>why once again, we should not have a situation next

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<v Speaker 2>season where we're missing games when the sport is enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>a renaissance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, attendance ratings, everything is soaring. Ken we'll be watching

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<v Speaker 1>it this weekend, Philly's Brewers, Right, Yes, got it, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll watch Ken on Fox. Thanks Ken, have a good weekend.