1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Of course, I still think it's interesting President Trump not 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: playing his cards yet. Headlines policy and politics aligning to 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,079 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On, the Insiders, the influencers, the insides. I 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of my DNA. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: The Senate map in looks a lot different than it 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: looked in. President Trump was sent here to smash conventional norms. 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Inno sense. Bernie Sanders has already w This is Bloomberg 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Sirel on Bloomberg one oh five 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: points MHD two. Kevin That Tuesday, folks. I'm Kevin Sireli, 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent the Bloomberg Television of Bloomberg Radio. I'm 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: here live in Charleston, South Carolina. I love it here. 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: The food, I'm telling you great food. But we're not 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: here to eat our way through the campaign trail. We 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: are here because it is the Democratic presidential debate and 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: you can listen to it live right here on Bloomberg Radio. 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Are coverage starts right now, but also at seven thirty 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: pm Eastern, and the stakes have never been higher for 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: virtually every candidate. It's the first time on the stage 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: for Senator Bernie Sanders since he's won the Nevada Caucus 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: and a lot of attention is going to be on 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: him and whether or not he is ready to be 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: the standard bearer of the party. And don't forget about 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: former Vice President Joe Biden. So we're gonna get into 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: all of that. Plus the President traveling abroad to India. 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: Our Bloomberg reporters are on the ground and they've got 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: complete coverage of that as well. And he took a 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: press conference today in India with well, if you had 28 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: a lot to say, so we're gonna talk about that, 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: the coronavirus. I'm Kevin Sirilli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: Television and Bloomberg Radio. And my two guests, my two 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: political all stars, just walked into the spin room where 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: we are broadcasting today in Charleston, South Carolina four the 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Democratic presidential debate, Richard Fowler and Adam Green High Richard, Hello, Hello, 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: Democratic Insider. I guess that's the title, right, and Adam 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Green war in World Insider. I think your microsoft and 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: now now it is actually good friends. Interesting. So we're 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: in Bailey Bolden's neck of the woods. I have to 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: give her a shout out because she is a South 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Carolinian and has been giving me food recommendations, and she 40 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: has a colleague of mind of Bloomberg. So we're in 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: Bailey Bulden's neck of the woods. Rich Before we get 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: to the food, before we get to the debate. I 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: must say, the food in Charleston, South Carolinas in the 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: world silly. But I mean it's I had hush puppies, 45 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: I've had shrimp and grits. I mean, it's just that 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: I just don't want to go home. Magnolia's that's the 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: place to be. Yes, and I had I had a 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: waffle today for fat Tusday. Enough about the food, but 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it's the best. While I was 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: eating hush puppies, I was thinking about the debate, Adam, 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: and is Elizabeth Warren gonna come out swinging in the 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: first five minutes again? I mean she was. I felt 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: like I was watching a Senate Banking Committee hearing last 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: week in Las Vegas. Yeah, that that was the Elizabeth 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Warren that people know and love. That's who they know 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: or they loathe or they love, but most the love 57 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: and the banker's loathe. Uh, you know, the strong fighter, 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: the person who names villains, challenge pet challenges power. And 59 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: the beautiful thing about having Bloomberg right there next to 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: her was he is like the walking personification of her 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: core message, right, like a billionaire kind of a walking 62 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: corporation who also happens to be wrong on race and gender. 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: And she knocked out of the ball park. I think 64 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: it was consensus afterwards. It was weird being in the 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: spin room afterwards, because you can't really spin the fact 66 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: that she just crushed it. Everybody agreed, right, can't she 67 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: do it again? And and does she have any I 68 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: say this respectfully, I mean she's in the polls. If 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: you look at Super Tuesday stage, she's gotta she's gotta win, 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, just her, all the 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: other candidates as well. There's no bigger priority for any 72 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: candidate than entering Super Tuesday with momentum. And that's why 73 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: last debate and this debate is so important. What we 74 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: did see in Nevada is that, you know, there's a 75 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: perfect compare and contrast. All the early voting, which was 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: pre debate, came in way less for her than after voting. 77 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: There was some precincts where she got ten percent early 78 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: vote before the debate post debate, so she does need 79 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: to repeat performance, but I think she's very capable of it. 80 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: All right. I was struck by seeing how she really 81 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: came out as an attack dog, so to speak, the 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: political attack dog. That's the term that they always used 83 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: in you insiders used And just as a disclaimer, Michael Bloomberg, 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: who's seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, is the founder and 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg Radio. 86 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Richard Fowler, the stakes have never been did you know that, 87 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: Richard Richer Fowler, The stakes have never been higher? For 88 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. Yes, the stakes alies on Bernie. All lies 89 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: on Bernie. And I think if they say that the 90 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: last debate was a bit of a firestorm, this is 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: going to be a blood bath. Um when it comes 92 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: to the fighting. And you know, here's the thing, everybody 93 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: got to get new political cliches we do. I think 94 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: we need to have I've already done. You know, stakes 95 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: have never been higher. We should have a plan for that, 96 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Adam Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders, Look, I think all the 97 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: candidates are sort of gonna be gunning for him, tonight 98 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: because he is the quote unquote frontrunner. And I say 99 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: quote unquote because it's only been two states that have 100 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: actually three excuse me, the front runner. Excuse me, you 101 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: need nineteen hundred and ninety one delegates and has only 102 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: been a less than a hundred distributed. So Richard does 103 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: dispute New Hampshire statehood by the way, so it's not 104 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: I just need the diversity of New Hampshire. But but 105 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: more more of the story here. I think that you 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be He's gonna have We're gonna have 107 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: to see if he is the front under can he 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: take the attacks coming from the left and attacks coming 109 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: from He's been waiting for this moment for his entire career, 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: has he not? I would be struck if Sanders collapses 111 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: on the stage tonight, I just in covering him for 112 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: more than ten years, I would be struck. Really, I 113 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: think he's gonna have to finally answer some tough questions 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: about it. For months, he's gonna have to answer questions 115 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: about the fact that he's been in the Senate for 116 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: a number of years and passed barely anything. I mean, 117 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of questions that Bernie's gonna 118 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: have to answer. He's been in the Senate making these 119 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: same arguments of Medicare for all, making these same arguments, 120 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: and he hasn't really passed. Let me pask a follow 121 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: up on this, because I don't buy the note. I mean, look, 122 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: I hear that criticism. But my follow up question whenever 123 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: I hear that criticism is the Democratic Party is talking 124 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: about Medicare for all, is talking about healthcare in a 125 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: way that Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders have been talking 126 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: about for quite some time. I mean, progress is hard 127 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: if if you if you believe that that's progress, but 128 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: it takes time, does it not? I mean, do you 129 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: do you? I think it's indisputable that Bernie Sanders has 130 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: had at least some type of an effect on the 131 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, at least in certain the terms of the 132 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: issues that think absolutely. I mean, he deserves full credit 133 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: for moving Medicare for all free tuition into the center 134 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: of the public debate, just like Elizabeth Warren deserves credit 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: for things like many Watson. You might disagree with stan 136 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: social security, universal child care, breaking up big tech monopolies. 137 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: The question is, once it's in the middle of the mainstream, 138 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: can you actually get something done? And that's where I 139 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: think tonight she will have a unique role of Visa v. Sanders. 140 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: Others like Pete might attack him from the right. Joe 141 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: Biden at times has weirdly attacked him from the left 142 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: on issues like guns. Elizabeth Warren can make a pretty 143 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: fair effectiveness argument. It's like, Wow, even if you agree 144 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: with me and Bernie on issues, I'm the one who 145 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: knows how to push and pull the levers of power. 146 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: I can get it done. Alright. One's gonna have to 147 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: do that. She's gonna have to make a clear contract 148 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: between herself and Bernie tonight. If there's a one debate 149 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: that she has to do it, it has to be 150 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: this one, all right. Joe Biden, I mean he has to. 151 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: He's got to have a great performance. He's gonna have 152 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: a great performance. His The Biden campaign will tell you 153 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: over and over again that South Carolina is where they 154 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: need to win. They'll tell you they have more and 155 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: they've had more endorsements than any other elected official. Right. 156 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: They will tell you that they've been that the Vice 157 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: president and prepping for this debate, and he's gonna have 158 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: to show it tonight, he's gonna to show him to 159 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: He's gonna show in a major way, and he's gonna 160 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: have to win big. I have some inside knowledge about 161 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: how he's preparing tonight just to get himself motivated. He's 162 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: been listening to a record player all night. He's a 163 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: big fan of rapper. Why is Adam I don't know 164 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: which Adam Green I'm ever gonna get on this show, 165 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: and now I know which one I got on tonight 166 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: show is keeping me on edge in the in the 167 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: minute that we have left. But seriously, on Joe Biden, Richard, 168 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking with some folks over in 169 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: that political orbit, and I mean the expectation is that 170 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: he wins South Carolina, and not just that he win, 171 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: but that he went big. And so if he doesn't, 172 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: that would be a devast I mean, I the poll 173 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: suggests that he will. But if he weren't to win 174 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: this weekend, wow, would you agree at him? Sounds about right? 175 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: All right? Coming up much more policy and politics. Adam 176 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Green's gonna stick around, as is Richard Fowler. Two political 177 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: all Stars. You can download the Bloomberg Sound on podcast 178 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: on Apple iTunes at Bloomberg dot com or by downloading 179 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app. You can also find me on 180 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: Radio dot Com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. And just 181 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: a friendly reminder, you can listen to the entire Democratic 182 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: presidential debate right here on Bloomberg Radio. We're gonna kick 183 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: off a pre show from Live inside of the debate 184 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: spin Room Floor at seven pm Eastern, and we'll have 185 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: post show analysis as well. My name is Kevin Seilli. 186 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm the chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television of Bloomberg Radio, 187 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: and you're listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg's Sound On 188 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg and one or five point 189 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: seven of m h D two. Why don't you make 190 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: of Sanders comment on Sunday about the virtues of Cash 191 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: Froll's communist Cuba. I thought when I heard that, I shivered, 192 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: That reinforced the fear the South cominions have about his 193 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: so called democratic socialism. That was Congressman James Kleberg, the 194 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: democraph from South Carolina who was poised to endorse former 195 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Vice President Joe Biden tomorrow. He was speaking, of course, too, 196 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: over Porter earlier today about Senator Bernie Sanders comments on 197 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: Fidel Castro that he made over the weekend of sixty Minutes. 198 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin's really chief Washington correspondent Fro Bloomberg Television, Bloomberg Radio. 199 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting live from Charleston, South Carolina, ahead of tonight's 200 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Democratic presidential debate. Richard Fowler's here. He's a Democratic insider 201 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: all over Fox News. We always see Richard on the 202 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: Fox News and Adam Green, who is a progressive insider 203 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: and very up to speak. I mean, I say this 204 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: in your intro, but I but I often I don't 205 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: think it. It bears enough repeating of how connected you 206 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: are to the progressive movement and circles. Yes to Bernie Sanders, 207 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: but obviously your organization has backed Senator Elizabeth Warren. But 208 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: I you're very You're seen as a connector, Adam Uh 209 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: in progressive circles. So thank you because because no, but 210 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: but I but I we keep having you on the program, 211 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: and I think it's important that people understand why is 212 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: because you are are seen as that. Yeah, so's We're 213 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: appreciative of your of your time when you make time 214 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: for us. Thank you. Yeah. I don't consider myself a 215 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: pundit as much as an organizer. Yeah, you know, what 216 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: infrastructure is is years of building and partnering. So we 217 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: work with AFC, we work with Bernie, work with Warren, 218 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: and there's many, you know, stories from the trenches and 219 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: kind of yeah. I mean, I mean, I know you 220 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't use that word, but in just in covering its 221 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: rise over the last decade in a similar way to 222 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: how uh, you've really mobilized the progressive flank. And we've 223 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: seen the effect that it's had not just on the candidates, 224 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: but also on the policy and whether you agree with 225 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: it or not, it's definitely had an impact. All right. 226 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: So I want to pick up on this Castro thing 227 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: now that we've done, now that we've done the introductions 228 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: at him, this Castro comment that Sanders made, and you 229 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: hear Clive Burne saying this is what makes him shiver 230 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: as it relates to nominating a democratic president a democratic socialist. 231 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: I mean, what did you make of the of the 232 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Castro comment for Bernie Sanders from Bernie Sanders? Well, first, 233 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: I think everybody is just thrilled that we have Julian 234 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: Castro's endorsement of Elizabeth Warren. That's been a big boon 235 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: to the Campaig Thank you. Just as I talked, there 236 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: are many issues out there where if Sanders wasn't was 237 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,239 Speaker 1: a nominee, folks like me would go to bat ferociously 238 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: defend him. And the question is, but do we want 239 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: to have to write and what we're already seeing early 240 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: stuff right? Right? So, I mean the Republicans are already 241 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: talking about things like I don't know his honeymoon and 242 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: Moscow and stuff like that, like we'll defend it. It's 243 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: a stupid argument. People care about healthcare. We'd rather not 244 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: have to defend that. And I think this fits in 245 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: that category, right. And unfortunately, to my end of the 246 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: debate stage, every Candiday is gonna have to talk about Florida. 247 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: In Florida, That's that's really gonna be. You know. I 248 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: think it's the perfect illustration of you know, Cuba communism 249 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: the Democrats want to stand for that. I think if 250 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: fits into larger critique by the Warren wing of Sanders, 251 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: which is effectiveness. Right. Elizabeth Warre improved in the last 252 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: to that she does not throw punches wildly. She had 253 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: an opportunity to pile onto Amy Klobuchar and said she 254 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: defended her and said, you know what, she forgot her name. 255 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: So what now, I'll talk to her about healthcare. But 256 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: let's not just pile onto everything. Bernie Sanders, you know, 257 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: decided yesterday or two days ago to talk about Cuba, right. 258 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: He he just talks about anything, throws punches at anything. Again, 259 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: We'll defend if we have to. But I think Elizabeth 260 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: is much more strategic and effective. I mean, I hear that, 261 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: and I think the problem, I mean, this is one 262 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: of the things that I'm an undecided Democrat here, but 263 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: I think one of the problems with the Bernie Sanders 264 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: candasy is defending when you know, Florida is a bit 265 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: Florida matters right in this in this upcoming election, to 266 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: talk to you know, Cuban voters in Miami, in Miami 267 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: Dade County in or Broward County or Palm Beach County 268 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: for that matter, saying things like defending Fidel Castro. That's 269 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: a very hard position for Democrats to defend. This is 270 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: the heart of the matter that Democrats are grappling with 271 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: tonight in Charleston, South Carolina. Can you take democratic socialism 272 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: and sell it to the American people that's really what 273 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: this argument is about, is it not. I think it's 274 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: beyond selling democratic socialism because I don't. I mean, I 275 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: see Bernie for the policy solutions. And I just got 276 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: back from a from covering Secretary of State Mike Pompeo 277 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: in Latin America where I saw Huangwido in Colombia standing 278 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: with the President with with the President of Colombia as 279 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: well as with the Secretary of State Juangwaido who had 280 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: fled Venezuela from Dictator Medoro. And so the Meduro regime 281 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: is being propped up by Cuba, the Maduro regime is 282 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: being propped up by Russia. And so this this is 283 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: an illustration. I mean, there's comments on sixty minutes. Yes, 284 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: it's a viral moment, but this is literally going to 285 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: be the foreign policy fight in a general election between 286 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: if Sanders is the nominee and and the Trump administrator. 287 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the argument that Donald Trump and my 288 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: Pompeio wants you to believe. But I think that's far 289 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: from the truth of where Bernie Sanders that if America 290 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: stand no no, no, no, no, no no. I think 291 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: what you've heard from what you've heard from the White 292 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: House is that Bernie is a socialist and the Democratic 293 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: Party a socialist, and they give you, they paint your 294 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: pictures like we're all wan Guido, and I don't think 295 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: that's that's very far from the truth. What Bernie Sanders 296 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: just let Joe Biden just like Elizabeth Warren. They're all 297 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: arguing for the same thing, high quality public schools, access 298 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: to access to healthcare, but a ballooning one trillion dollars. 299 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: I want I want to stick on Cuba because I 300 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: want to get Adams take here because truthfully, when Angela 301 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: Merkel's backing Guido Angelo Merkels no conservative, I mean take 302 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: this into a general election. I mean, I hear you 303 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: about your point. Would Democrats want to have this debate 304 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: on foreign policy in America's literally miles away from Florida Shore? 305 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: Is that the type of debate they want to have 306 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: in a general election. It's not our best foot forward 307 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: trying to take on Trump. We want to we want 308 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: to take on econom mix. But again, I really wanted 309 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: to hit to hit this effectives point. You brought up 310 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: democratic socialism. You know, Bernie gave a speech at George 311 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: Washing University several months ago, right, go Buffing Blue. So 312 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: Nitney Lion, this is the Ninney Lion show. Go ahead. 313 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: His Hey, congrats to the kids of Penn State for 314 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: all the money they raised for thought. Go ahead. So 315 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: his main point was, Hey, if you want to think 316 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: about Democrats socialism, think about social security, think about Medicare, 317 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: which is actually a very strategic move on his part, 318 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: redefining it as that it's actually not the help from 319 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: the democratic perspective. Why take the two best brands in government, 320 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: social security and medicare and re ran them as Democrats socialism? 321 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Right again, if we have to defend it, we will. 322 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: If he's gonna talk about it, sol security, that's our 323 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: best butt forward in the general. But we'd rather just 324 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: run on social security, Medicare, anti corruption, other popular issues. Alright, 325 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: coming up, we're gonna talk about the coronavirus. We didn't 326 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: get to the plurality issue and how many delegates some 327 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: nominee would have to win, but we'll get to that 328 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: coming up when we talk about what's on the panel's radar. 329 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: You don't want to miss this because truthfully, the White 330 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: House is out in full force today talking about the 331 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: corona of virus, as was President Trump. In India. My 332 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: name is Kevin Cereli. I'm the chief Washington correspondent for 333 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television of Bloomberg Radio. Adam Green's gonna stay, Richard 334 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: Fowler is gonna stay. Go colonials for for Richard Fowler, 335 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: and I'll stick around to you're listening to Bloomberg. This 336 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: is Sound On with Kevin Cirelli, live from the Democratic 337 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: presidential debate in Charleston, South Carolina on Bloomberg Radio. I'm 338 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: Kevin Cereli, chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio, 339 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: and we are in Charleston, South Carolina. I'm joined by 340 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: Adam Green. Hello, Adam, Richard Fowler, Hello, Hello, favorite spot 341 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: so far on the campaign trail this cycle. I I 342 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: have fun everywhere I go. I will say Charleston, South 343 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: Carolina holds a special place in my heart. Yeah. The food, 344 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: because of the food is the top of my list. 345 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: It's better than the mon Iowa. Yeah. I love the 346 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: Moine because there's a great steakhouse there. I liked it. 347 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: It's called Steakhouse. It's a No One stead um. You know. 348 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed joining the Elizabeth Warren Um tour of 349 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: the South Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, tolling to the South has 350 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: the best food, best food. She did a cown home 351 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: meeting at a storkly Black college. It was the first 352 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: time she was in front of a diverse audience, having 353 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: campaign in Iowa, New Hampshire, and it was electric. I 354 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: don't care about the crowd. Did you have a Poe boy? 355 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: I had whatever their veggie salad was nearby? Yeah, yeah, No, 356 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: I could never do that anyway. Okay, So we just 357 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to beyond Burger. Oh 358 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: and on that note, let's talk about the coronavirus seriously though, 359 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: Big developments here, and that's where we're gonna turn our attention. 360 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: The US stocks plunged again I'm reading from the Bloomberg 361 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: Jerminal as investors contemplated the possibility of an American coronavirus outbreak. 362 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: The SPI four day route reached seven point six percent. Guys, 363 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: that's the worst such slump since December. Treasuries gained, with 364 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: ten year yield sending a record low of one point 365 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: three zero, as Wall Street increasingly bad that the Fed 366 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: actually might have to cut raids to combat the outbreak. 367 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, so wow, Blanken, you'll miss it. Now, the 368 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: Central Bank, according to Wall Street, now baking this in 369 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: is weighing whether or not the Central Bank is going 370 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: to have to step in and cut rates as it 371 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: relates to the coronavirus. Meanwhile, I do want to check 372 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: in with the Center for Disease Control because they have 373 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: now told Americans to start preparing for the virus to 374 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: hit home as well as to disrupt daily life as 375 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: it has elsewhere, with one official saying quote, this might 376 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: be bad. So all of that comes as the administration 377 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: and the US government has been working with China and 378 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: General Secretary of Chooting Pain and China and Congress is 379 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: weighing at least one billion. We're hearing potentially two billion 380 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: dollars worth of the package that could get done. So 381 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: let's start with Larry Cudlow, the President's top economic advisor, 382 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: who was speaking earlier today I believe it was on CNBC, Yes, uh, 383 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: and he was asked about the coronavirus. And take a 384 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: listen to what the White House director of the National 385 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: Economic Council had to say here. He is our experts 386 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: are hard at it, and they're planning for all eventualities, 387 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: possible emergencies. That doesn't mean you'll go into place, but 388 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: we're ahead of the curve. Yes, that's the point I 389 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: want to We are ahead of the curve. Larry Cudlow 390 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: says that the administration is ahead of the curve, and 391 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: the Center for Disease Control is saying, brace yourselves because 392 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: we're about to hit impact. I want to I want 393 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: to get into the politics of this in a second, 394 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: but first I want to get into what you're hearing 395 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: from Democrats on Capitol Hill, Richard as to the likelihood 396 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: of their being an aid package to combat this because 397 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: it typically these have always been bipar it is in 398 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: nonpartisan types of packages, and it looks like that could 399 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: be the case as well for this time. Yeah. I 400 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: spent some time today with members of the Congressional Black 401 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: Caucus who are all here for this debate. Uh, and 402 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: they seem to feel that, you know, they're willing to 403 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: They're willing to entertain a package from this White House. 404 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: They just seen that all the package it has come 405 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: from the White House is on is insufficient. Right. Um, 406 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: When the Ebola crisis happened, the White the Obama White 407 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: House sort of pledged eight billion dollars to deal with 408 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: the crisis, and it was not as big as this um. 409 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: And to say the only two point five billion is 410 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: what that which is what the White House and the 411 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: White House number is, seems to be a little bit 412 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: low given the fact that what we've seen over every 413 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: year of this of this White House, we've seen cuts 414 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: to HHS, We've seen cuts to all of the infrastructure 415 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: necessary to deal with an outbreak like this. So the 416 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: two point five billion would go into go into place 417 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: in a world where we don't have the necessary infrastructure 418 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: at FEMA or at HHS to handle what could be 419 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: something as a CDC described it, that could be a 420 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: could spread like the flu. Uh. And I think also, 421 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: and I would be remistif I didn't say that it 422 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: seems what Larry Cutlo is saying to call the markets, 423 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: it seems to be the opposite as much of what 424 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: you're hearing from the CDC. Well, I think, no, I mean, 425 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: do you agree with that at him? Yep, I do 426 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: agree with that. Yeah. I think Democrats starting point will 427 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: just be pointing out the obvious, which is Trump keats 428 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: proposing budget cuts to emergency funding and actually has withdrawn 429 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: some of it for his border wall. So, I mean, 430 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: it's tough to have an intelligent conversation about two point 431 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: five billion or eight billion when when Trump is going 432 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: in the opposite direction of pulling money. Right, that's the 433 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: starting point. But can we transition to the politics on 434 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: the bait stage? Not yet? In a minute, will we will? 435 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: We sent two segments on that this is important just 436 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: because the markets have for the past month have been 437 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: just been And I think one of the every think 438 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: one of the reason why those polatility in the market 439 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: is because a lot of traders are saying, maybe this 440 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: president is ill equipped to handle this type of disaster. 441 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna push back politely because I think it also 442 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: just shows around the world. I mean, right now, this 443 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: is not an American outpread yet. I mean this has 444 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: been spreading, uh in China as well as to Iran. 445 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: It's disrupted air traffic control, it's disrupted trade goods and services, 446 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: tourism and whatnot. Uh. And and talk to anyone up 447 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: on the street and they say that pandemics are the 448 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: one issue that any president would grapple with just because 449 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: if its impact on so many different And I get that, Yeah, 450 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: I get that. I think what we we will use 451 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: what we're used to seeing from the United States president, right, 452 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: the leader of the free world is when this is 453 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: when this is when their power is actually at its 454 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: best to the SPEs, because this is when they lead 455 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: world global coalitions and say, Okay, how do we get this, 456 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: how do we get to this virus? How do we 457 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: tackle it? How do we bring world leaders together? This 458 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: is not where this president has a good track. I 459 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. I mean, well, that's what you're saying. 460 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: You're you're you're laying the foundation for likely where this 461 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: debate is gonna go. What I'm trying to pull us 462 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: back from it. I don't think we're at that debate 463 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: yet because I don't want to, but because because if 464 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: we haven't had because when the CDC saying there could 465 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: be a disruption daily hold on, when the CDC saying 466 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: that there could be a disruption of daily life, I mean, 467 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: we're not there yet. So I want to make sure 468 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: that we're caught, that we're being cautious and not just 469 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: rushing to out to outrage on the h on the 470 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: health side of the ledgers, Yes, you mentioned supply chains, right, 471 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: Elizabeth want to actually talk about this today, that this 472 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: is actually showing many Americans how much our businesses in 473 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: this country are supply chains are dependent on China. And 474 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: she has talked in this in this campaign about economic patriotism, Right, 475 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: we need to have our own supply chains, we need 476 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: to create jobs in this country and you know, doing 477 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: a smart economic way. And that's interesting. Yeah. So so 478 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: there's a health part of this. But but small businesses, 479 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: some bigger businesses actually are getting crushed by the fact 480 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: that we can't get stuff from China. So I would 481 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: be this is the nerd in me, and I'm gonna 482 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: put on my unbiased for dorks and nerds because as 483 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: everyone knows, I am one, and I've been waiting for 484 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: there to be a robust conversation about amongst the Democratic 485 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: candidates on how they would handle China, and if the coronavirus, 486 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately is going to be the way into it, then 487 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: maybe at tonight's Democratic presidential debate we'll hear about supply 488 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: chains and hear how p well Well would would negotiate 489 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: with shi Jing ping uh and and and what that 490 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: impact would be. I do just want to close this 491 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: because there were other developments. And I do want to 492 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: play from Senatement Alarity Leader Chuck Schumer as it relates 493 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: to the likelihood of that two point five billion dollar 494 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: package getting out of Congress. A lot of folks. That 495 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: impacts a lot of folks from a yeah, from around 496 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: from a health perspective, but also from an employment perspective 497 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: inside of the Beltway. So let's take a listen to 498 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer. The administration has no plan to deal with 499 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: the coronavirus, no plan, and seemingly no urgency to develop one. 500 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: For the record, that wasn't one of our phones. I 501 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: think that was a phone in the sound bite. But so, Richard, 502 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: you just heard from Chuck Schumer laying the case that 503 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: you were making here. But he's still saying that the 504 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: two point five billions going to get approved, right, Yeah, 505 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: I think it will get Those two things. I just 506 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: want to stress this, those two things aren't true. Yes, 507 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: I think the two point viable probably fly through Congress 508 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: when they're back in session number one, and I think 509 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: number two, and more importantly, this is an out only 510 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: from Chuck Schooner, you're also hearing it from Louisiana Republican 511 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: Joe Kennedy, who in a hearing sort of went in 512 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: on Trump administration officials and saying, what is the plan, 513 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: what is the solution? This is his state's gonna get 514 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: whacked by Yes, he's not the only state in Alabama 515 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: with some of there's there's there's some folks who have 516 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: the virus or in Alabama will be quarantined there. So 517 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of disinformation. There's a lot of misinformation. 518 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: There's not enough guidance coming from the White House, which 519 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: is why elected leaders all across this country are sort 520 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: of looking for leadership and right now they don't have any. 521 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: So President Trump was asked today at a press conference 522 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: in India, and he said that that the that the 523 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: United States is in a quote very good shape on 524 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: the coronavirus. I don't know what that means. I'm struck 525 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: that they haven't named as are officially named tzare or 526 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: that there doesn't seem to be a street. And we've 527 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: been calling on this, meaning asking the question, not calling 528 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: on it. We've been asking this question for the past 529 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: couple of months. Why is there one singular face from 530 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: the administration as it relates to who is the point person? 531 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: Quickly well, I think that's quickly. That's part of the problem. 532 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: I think the other part is, you know, you have 533 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: one of your officials tweeting that he can't use the 534 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: math that JOHNS Hopkins provided Ken Kuchinelli, and I think 535 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: this once again speaks to the lack of leadership from 536 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: this White House um, which is why the markets are 537 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: doing with the reacting with the supply chain. And that's 538 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: what the President is more concerned with the markets and 539 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: not the American people. Hi, that's your perspective. I just 540 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: want to balance it out. Coming up, we're gonna ask 541 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: what's on the panel's radar. We talked about the economics 542 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: and the politics of this, so we got through it all. 543 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli live from Charleston, South Carolina. You're listening to 544 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg ninety nine one. This is Sound On with Kevin Cirelli, 545 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: live from the Democratic presidential debate in Charleston, South Carolina 546 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin CEREALI Chief Washington correspondent f 547 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television, Bloomberg Radio, and we are live in Charleston, 548 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: South Carolina, the beautiful Charleston, South Carolina. You can catch 549 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: the full Democratic presidential debate by listening to it right 550 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: here on Bloomberg Radio. We're gonna kick off special coverage 551 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: at seven thirty pm Eastern, and we're inside of the 552 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: spin Room floor in downtown Charleston, were CBS News has 553 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: converted a downtown ballroom into convention hall into a spin room, 554 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: and we will do the same for after the debate 555 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: as well, so you can catch all of that. It's 556 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: such a crucial debate for all of the candidates, and 557 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: this is really one of the final times that the 558 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: candidates have their opportunities to move the polls and to 559 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: make their pitch to voters ahead of the crucial South 560 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: Carolina primary this weekend and on Super Tuesday. I'm joined 561 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: by Richard Fowler, a Democratic insider, and Adam Green, progressive insider. 562 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: It's time now for my favorite part of the program. 563 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: But I actually did want to give you, Adam a chance, 564 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: because we got we ran the cock ran out earlier 565 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: about a point that you were going to make on 566 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: the politics of the coronavirus and how it might play 567 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: out on the stage tonight. So go aheadt view. You 568 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: know a lot of people won't be following the bonds 569 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: and the yields and the wonky stuff. I think they 570 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: will be looking for who looks presidential on the stage tonight. 571 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren today was like, we need an adult in 572 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: the room, right, we need to actually treat is like 573 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: the crisis it is. And she had a whole tweet 574 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: storm about what she would do as president. It's a 575 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: golden opportunity for someone to not just look like a candidate, 576 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: not just a senator, but look like the future president. 577 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know, she will rise 578 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: to dcasion. And let me just say this, I think 579 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: all of our candidates on the debates will look more 580 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: presidential and we'll have a better plan than the one 581 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: that then develop a better plan than the one that 582 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: we currently see in place, which is no plan. Okay, 583 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: but I will be frank and pushed back because I 584 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, whenever I come to these 585 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: Democratic debates, I mean, I know we have Republicans to 586 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: listen to this. And when I talk to my Republican sources, 587 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: they're feeling quite confident about their chances in November. Uh, 588 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: listen and listen. I would give the president good economic marks, 589 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 1: I get that, but look at where we are now 590 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: one that his economic the Trump economy is can can 591 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: be taken off by one fragile thing. Now this coronavirus 592 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: is happening, and the market is tanking, not tanking. I 593 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: mean I I just had to be. This is where 594 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: my bloomberge and mind, I'm like, we gotta they're not. 595 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say tank, it's dipping. I would say dipping. 596 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: There are the away I hope from work. I don't 597 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: want to cause the accidents on the road. Now it's 598 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: time for my favorite part of the program, which is 599 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: what is your your radar? Adam? All right, I am 600 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: looking for the actual real world impact of tonight's debate 601 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: on the next state, in the next number of states. Um. 602 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: You know, as I mentioned, Elizabeth Warren actually had kind 603 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: of a lag on her last success where most of 604 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: the vote was in by the time the debate happened, 605 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: and and you know, when we were able to see 606 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: early voting versus day of voting, she often jumped from 607 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: things like ten to thirty, ten to thirty five points, um. 608 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: Any club which are clearly had a good night in 609 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, and she got a multidigit um, you know, 610 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: a double digit bump from that. If Elizabeth Warren does 611 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: well tonight, it will be the first time that a 612 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: candidate has to knockout punches in two debates in a row. 613 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: We've had other people have sugar highs moments in the sun, 614 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: but it would be stunning to have two knockout punches 615 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: going to super tuest. How is she preparing well the 616 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: same way she did last time? You know, she is 617 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: very dedicated to speaking her truth and you know a 618 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: couple debates ago, moderators her and her husband walking home 619 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: from dinner on my way over here. Thists like the 620 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: rest of us well fed in uh in South Carolina. 621 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: But seriously, what she do differently, well, I would actually 622 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: say there's more of a difference between New Hampshire and 623 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: Vegas than Vegas. And I mean, if she has the 624 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: exactly repeat of Vegas, she's in great shape, right right. 625 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: What she did differently between New Hampshire and Vegas was 626 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, mentally prepare to not let moderators choose her fate. 627 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: If there's a question is I wanted for core issues 628 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: and it only goes to Klobuchar and Styre, like she 629 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: needs to jump in there and say, listen, I asked 630 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: me to say about that. One thing that think she 631 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: met the last debate was there were very few questions 632 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: posed to her because she spent so much time getting 633 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: in proactically and framing the next ten minutes of discussion. 634 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: Then eventually there were another topic and she'd frame it 635 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: again and people would be responding to her. At one point, 636 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: Chuck Tod was like, let me just try to recollect 637 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: the order that she addressed other candidates and then call 638 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: on them to adjust Elizabeth Warren's questions. So that was 639 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: a good tactic for her. I think that was take 640 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: is that's what's on your rate to Night's debate is 641 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: going to be about two people. The night spate is 642 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: going to be out of Bernie and Bloomberg. Both of 643 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: those are going to don't think it's going to be 644 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: about Biden. Well no, and let me let me explain 645 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: why in context, right, because I think every candidate is 646 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: going to be looking to take some school, to take 647 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: some hits on on on Bernie, and I think Can 648 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: is looking to take hits on Bloomberg. Yeah, I think 649 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: more so Bernie this time than Bloomberg. And I think 650 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: for Biden, all he has to do in this debate 651 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: is show that he is a true leader and stay 652 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: above the frame. So you think it's being set up 653 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: as a good night for Biden, I do believe storm 654 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: if you're looking at the storm forecast, because if he 655 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: could show in a moment like this, I think where 656 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: I think um Adam is right right, And like I said, 657 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm on decided here, but in there if you're if 658 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: you're a South Carolina voter and you're figuring out how 659 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: to make a decision tonight, knowing everything that's happening on 660 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: going on around you, if Biden can stay about the 661 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: frame and actually look presidential while all the other candidates 662 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: are sort of going in on this Bernie pylon, it 663 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: could be a good night for him. It could. It could. 664 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: There's above the fray and then there's absent. One thing 665 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: that I heard, I agree that there's a distinction. Joe 666 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: Biden was almost a nonentity. And if he is getting punched, 667 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean I've been saying recently like there's not such 668 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: thing as treading water in this debate. You either sink 669 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: or swim. Joe Biden, if he's getting punched, you know, 670 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: he if he's getting ignored, he has to get in. 671 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: He can't just be oh unpresidential because he shouldn't engage 672 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: in the pilot and talk about it. And he has 673 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: a moment here, especially given where we are in the headlines, 674 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: given the fact that we spent almost two segments talking 675 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: about the coronavirus, to talk about how he's a leader, 676 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: talk about I have experience working in the White House. 677 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: I have experience on how to deal with pandemics like this. 678 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: I've done it before. I can do it again. If 679 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: he can, if he can hold that position tonight, it 680 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: could be a good night for him. You know what 681 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: I think. This isn't what's all my radar, but I 682 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: guarantee you, after the battle that was in Vegas, you're 683 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: gonna have one of those candidates trying to overplay their 684 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: hand as being can't we just all seeing kumbaya? You 685 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I always CURINGE when I 686 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: watched the debates and I see that question, like, hold on, 687 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: you guys can't stand each other. You're trying to be 688 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: commander in chief, You're trying to be the president. And 689 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: that's why last week's debate was so riveting because it 690 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: felt so authentic. It felt so true. It finally what 691 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: we all report on what the conversations that I have 692 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: with their staffs, with the conversations that you have with 693 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: your colleagues. They can't stand each other. So maybe they 694 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: respect each other, but they really don't. A lot of 695 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: them don't like each other. And so that that was real. 696 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: That was real, and you know, beyond that liking each other, 697 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: like each other's policies. There's some talking about democratic this 698 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: is years in the making. Do what we saw in 699 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: the last debate was that Democrats could unite around Elizabeth 700 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: Warren the fighter as she was calling out you know, 701 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: bloom Roogs, bad actions on Wall Street and gender and race. 702 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: You know, fighting and unity are actually hand in hand. 703 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: You know. I think what we want to see is 704 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: um a Democratic candidate who will throw punches at Trump 705 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: and land them on economics. And that's what you know 706 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: what I mean, that's what But they don't. But that's 707 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: why last debate was a proxy right blue. The brilliance 708 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: of Elizabeth Warren's opening where she had a quote and 709 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: said that wasn't from Trump, that was from Bloomberg, was 710 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: she set him up as a proxy on that debate 711 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: stage for Trump and it was for many people at home, like, oh, 712 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: that's what she would do if she was on at 713 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: the base stage with Trump, she would crush him. So 714 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: I think that that's you know, people could unify around that. 715 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: All right, I'm still I'm still following the coronavirus and 716 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: I just want to give the the update. This is 717 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: what's all my radar the US from the Bloomberg terminal, 718 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: and truthfully, you can keep up with all of the 719 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: latest data on the coronavirus and the market impact on 720 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: the on daybreak. Because the US has far fewer proactive 721 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: protective masks than it would need in the event of 722 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: a major outbreak. This according to Health and Human Services 723 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: Secretary Alex asar that's what he said to Congress. They're 724 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: about thirty millions stockpiled and masks, those masks that you 725 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: needed to protect yourselves, but as many as three hundred 726 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: million would be needed for health workers in an outbreak. 727 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: So is our sounding the mask alarm bell? Uh? And 728 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: then meanwhile, the number of an affections is climbing in 729 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: the Middle East. Iran reported thirty four new cases and 730 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: Italy claimed it's tenth casualty with three hundred and twenty 731 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: two confirmed cases nationwide, so keeping careful tabs on the 732 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: coronavirus again. We will be up to speed on that 733 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: every day as we get the latest developments. Thanks to 734 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: Richard Fowler, nationally syndicated radio show hosts and Fox News contributor, 735 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: and Adam Green, co founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. 736 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: Just as a disclaimer, Michael Bloomberg, who's seeking the Democratic 737 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: presidential nomination, is the founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, 738 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: the parent company of Bloomberg Radio. 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