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Speaker 1: here to help golfers play better golf. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Pink Proving Grounds Podcast. We've got an awesome reserve

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Speaker 1: in today, Christian Payne. You filling in for Marty Jertsen

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Speaker 1: here at Augusta National. We also got a guy by

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Speaker 1: the name of Bubba Watson. You may have heard of

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Speaker 1: him before. Two time Masters champion, Christian. I want to

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Speaker 1: start here though. Bubba, the nice guy that he is,

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Speaker 1: brought you to Augusta National a couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: and you got a chance to play alongside Bubba, although

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Speaker 1: he made you play pretty far back.

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Speaker 2: Well it was far back. And the one thing about Bubba,

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Speaker 2: he's got a great heart. And he brought me to

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Speaker 2: Augusta National end John K. Solheim our president last March,

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Speaker 2: and did dream come true for me? Loves I'm playing

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Speaker 2: first time, Oh yeah, first time pretty much on the

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Speaker 2: we came. We had a great time. I mean, Bubba

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Speaker 2: did say, hey, Christian, you were not playing the members teas,

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Speaker 2: you were gonna come back and play with me like

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Speaker 2: But it's really long, I'll just say that. And I

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Speaker 2: and but it was fun. It was a dream come true.

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Speaker 2: We had a great time. Bubba's taking care of me

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Speaker 2: over the years, Like I've played a lot of golf

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Speaker 2: This is number one. So anyway, it was great.

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Speaker 3: Tough to beat that Bubba.

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Speaker 1: Can you kind of dive into the experience how his

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Speaker 1: many head covers he pulled out on the par fours?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I lost count. But the key is, though

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Speaker 3: you don't want to leave a guy being a ex

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Speaker 2: Japan, it is yeah, hey, good memory.

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Speaker 3: And so I love when the Japanese media comes up

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Speaker 3: when you come to Augusta and you play, and you

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Speaker 3: there totally. You have to like, why say that you

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what the weather's going to be

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was He's right. It was a great

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Speaker 2: I remember, I'm just gonna tell sorry, sorry, Shane. So

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it comes down to feel, right, you see the shot,

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Speaker 1: Do you see like a start line pick? You know,

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Speaker 1: So this is your sixteenth start here to go oh lash, Okay.

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Speaker 3: They're my idols. There were the guys I looked up

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Speaker 3: twenty that week, but it was a low last round. Maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you played really well the last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about twenty twelve because you

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Speaker 3: You know, it was crazy. Louis Ustasen made the double

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Speaker 3: I've hit it one time. I hit it with Ted. Ted.

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Speaker 3: They've added some trees.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I thought, because every time, well the

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Speaker 1: They need more players to hit wedg shots to win

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean gold putters major you get a solid

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Speaker 3: You've succeeded in the pressure two years ago. You know

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Speaker 3: So yes, you know you're you're the wind is like

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Speaker 3: listening to hear it. And then we get up there.

431
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Speaker 3: I mean, I have this beautiful picture. It's framed up.

432
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,680
Speaker 3: Asked the Masters for it. Teddy has one too. There's

433
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Speaker 3: two that I know of that we got framed up.

434
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Speaker 3: And it's only me and Teddy. I'm hitting my shot.

435
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,760
Speaker 3: I'm one twenty to the front, one forty hole. I've

436
00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,320
Speaker 3: got fifty six degree trying to hit the you know,

437
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,200
Speaker 3: one thirty and then let it spin down to the

438
00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,240
Speaker 3: hole and out of the whole tournament. It's Sunday of

439
00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,359
Speaker 3: the Masters. Jordan spief Is, you know, he kind of

440
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,440
Speaker 3: left his drive out. I mean, I hit a ridiculous drive.

441
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,760
Speaker 3: But he hit a drive out. So he's hundred plus

442
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,800
Speaker 3: yards away from me and there's nobody. You see the

443
00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,720
Speaker 3: camera tower behind the green, and you see the flag,

444
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,639
Speaker 3: and you see me and Teddy, and you see me

445
00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,920
Speaker 3: at impact. I'm right here. There's nobody, and so I said,

446
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,280
Speaker 3: this is the greatest picture I've ever seen for us,

447
00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 3: and so I have one hanging up in my house.

448
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,159
Speaker 3: Teddy has one of his house. But going back to

449
00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,640
Speaker 3: the t shot, it was a lot of luck involved.

450
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,800
Speaker 3: But what we've always said, it doesn't matter how great

451
00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,960
Speaker 3: you're playing, how great you're playing, there has to be

452
00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,840
Speaker 3: something during the week that changes the momentum. I don't

453
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Speaker 3: believe in luck. I don't believe in this, but breaks

454
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,359
Speaker 3: have to go your way. It's your moment, it's your time,

455
00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 3: it's whatever. My ball went through the tree. He had

456
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 3: to touch something right, but it made it through. Look

457
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 3: at shots that we've seen everybody hit around the Augusta

458
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 3: not only Augusta, but every golf tournament. They made a putt,

459
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Speaker 3: they chipped in on a Thursday, they made a long

460
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Speaker 3: putt on a Friday to make the cut, and then

461
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Speaker 3: they shoot crazy on the weekend in La like a

462
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Speaker 3: sixty four to sixty four. Wait, who did that? But

463
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 3: you know like ball stays up. I mean, you're so right.

464
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Speaker 1: It's I always say we don't I think in golf

465
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Speaker 1: coverage because golf so long, we don't go back to

466
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Speaker 1: those Thursdays and Friday breaks enough, you know, because you

467
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Speaker 1: talk so much about Saturday and Sunday. And I mean

468
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Speaker 1: I remember remember James Han years ago when he missed

469
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 1: all those cuts in a row and then he won

470
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Speaker 1: wells Fargo. I think he missed seven cuts in a

471
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Speaker 1: row and we Fargo. I was talking him about it

472
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Speaker 1: one time and he said, he hit in Adibot on

473
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Speaker 1: Thursday and go, this is why we're gonna miss the cut.

474
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,199
Speaker 1: You know, it was negative talk to himself. And then

475
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 1: he said, I remember his caddy saying we got to

476
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Speaker 1: stop doing that. Let's just let's try to pull something

477
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Speaker 1: off when we hit in a bad spot or do something.

478
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Speaker 1: And literally that was the mental switch that happened. And

479
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 1: he goes on to win after missing seven cuts. Like

480
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,359
Speaker 1: you've got to almost embrace the when something good happens.

481
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm thirteen, didn't hit anything.

482
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 3: I'm in the grain.

483
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 1: I better make birdie here, right, Like I got to

484
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,479
Speaker 1: pull off the golf shot, and that gave you off

485
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: the opportunity to kind of to kind of take hold

486
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Speaker 1: of that tournament.

487
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Speaker 3: Right, There's a lot of times the guy that has

488
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 3: the best ball striking week does not win. Right. That's

489
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 3: why I say, in a tournament, if you can top

490
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 3: ten in any tournament in the world, or you can

491
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 3: top five, you're playing really good. There was a little

492
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 3: one percent difference in you and the next guy. He

493
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 3: chipped in twice for the week, so he beat you,

494
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 3: or he made a fifty footer that you didn't make.

495
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Speaker 3: So it's just it's a fine line. And that was

496
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Speaker 3: my moment. There was other moments, but that was one

497
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Speaker 3: that was like, hey, maybe it's meant to be. And

498
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 3: then nobody else birdied, so I got lucky. I could

499
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 3: just struggle my way in.

500
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Speaker 2: You say that too, like thirteen, if I remember correctly,

501
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 2: that was the year they had a big freeze and

502
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 2: a lot of the trees were dead. They didn't have

503
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: as many leaves on them. I don't know if you

504
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 2: remember that. So, like, your ball's going through there and

505
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 2: usually it's really lush, and so you have all these

506
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 2: different factors over call it providence, and here it comes,

507
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: here comes your ball is going through and then it

508
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: lands in the fairway, and I'm like, this is his

509
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 2: I mean, like like you said, I think I'm with you,

510
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily luck, like it was providence. All these little

511
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 2: things happened over over the year, and then you get here,

512
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 2: you hit this beautiful drive over there goes right through

513
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: the tree. Well over through what everyone's going.

514
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll say over, We'll say over. It's been a while, right, And.

515
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 2: Then I mean it was beautiful, it was all.

516
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Speaker 3: So then let's go back to that. So on, I

517
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 3: got two things, not that you care, but I got

518
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 3: to tell you anyway, do we go? So so number

519
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 3: eleven Friday, My ball is twenty fourteen and fourteen, and

520
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 3: my ball is in this pine stroll and Teddy looks

521
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 3: at me right or left. I'm right, so you're right

522
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 3: in the pines right now, So you know you gotta

523
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 3: aim it for me being left hand, I gotta aim

524
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Speaker 3: it over to water and hook it right. And Teddy

525
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 3: was like, man, we shoe to lay up. And I said, nah, man,

526
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: I got this shot. It's a hook. Man. I got

527
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 3: this shot. And I took out a nine iron and

528
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 3: it was stupid. Is one ninety or something to the

529
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: pin or whatever? So I tell this niner and I've

530
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: got to aim left of the water. So I hooked

531
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 3: it more than I hooked it in the playoffs same year.

532
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 3: And it's a nasty lie. And I just rope hooked

533
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 3: this bullet and just catch us the slope right on

534
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 3: the front of the green. And he goes but before

535
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: we hit, he goes, You're one under man, like this

536
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 3: is we missed the cut right? You hit this, make

537
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 3: a triple whatever right? And I said, noah, man, I

538
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: got this is easy, but I got this shot, and

539
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 3: so I pull it off right. But then you go

540
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: to so then you go to fifteen on Sunday and

541
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember, but I hit it

542
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: in the pine strawl. You know that little inlet of

543
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: trees yep, on the left. I'm in the pine straws.

544
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 3: They've added some trees by the way, just for the record,

545
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: because I've been there before and I can't do the

546
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 3: shot again. So I'm in there in the pine straw

547
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: and Teddy looks at me and he's like, I was, like,

548
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 3: I'm not laying up forty yards down the fairway like

549
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that, and I said, I've got a

550
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 3: wide open shot. We got one eighty four to the front. Man.

551
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, I do this every day in my life.

552
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm gonna hit a six iron.

553
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 3: Hit it. We're gonna go over the green just on

554
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: the left of the bunker pins in the back middle.

555
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: You know how that pin kind of traditional pin. We've

556
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: used to it many years, and we can chip it

557
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 3: short of the green and two put it for par

558
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: and walk out of here. And we're still leading, and

559
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: he goes, all right, man, if you can do it,

560
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 3: I man, this is easy. I know I can do this,

561
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: and so I so. But you know, when I watch

562
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: coverage with my family and listen to people, the commentators

563
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 3: are like, what is he doing? Why is he doing that?

564
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: And we've actually thought positively why we're doing it. Now,

565
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: I've got this downhill slope web shot and I'm gonna

566
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 3: have to try to lift it and spin it and

567
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: guess right on the distance to that green. I would

568
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 3: rather go for it and then fat my chip shot

569
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 3: than fat it in the water totally. So I'm looking

570
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: at that and so it's an easy shot. For me,

571
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 3: I wasay, man, my six irond goes two hundred yards.

572
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna hit easy. We're gonna hit it low, bullet

573
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: flat one eighty five, one eighty six, It's no problem. Boom,

574
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: we do it, just over the green, make par And

575
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: everybody's like, why would he do that? Well, because that

576
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: was the best opportunity for me to make par well,

577
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: we felt, And so those are the moments like again,

578
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 3: I could have been behind the tree, right, and then

579
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 3: I had to chip out and then I hit in

580
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 3: the water and lost right. So there are just moments

581
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: that happened throughout the week, especially on Sunday, that moments

582
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: that you don't think about at the time, but then

583
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 3: at the end of it you're like, man, I just missed.

584
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: I just miss winning because of this, this and this,

585
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: or I just won because of this, this and this.

586
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: Right, fancy dinner twenty fourteen after the Masters win, Right,

587
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: was that waffle House night?

588
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: That was waffle House night?

589
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: So what is a Bubba Watson waffle House Night?

590
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: Order? I get every time I go to waffle House.

591
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: I met the owners a couple weeks ago. It's pretty

592
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 3: funny people that started it, but they know my order

593
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: too because of the masters. But I get two grilled

594
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: cheese hash browns covered double hash browns. Two grilled cheese

595
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: go on the same plate and cover the hash browns

596
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: and then I just douse it all and catch up nice.

597
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean, no, no waffle no breakfast food. I've feel

598
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: like I feel like you're kind of going like a

599
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: little bit more.

600
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if it's seven in

601
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 3: the morning, doesn't matter if it's seven at night two

602
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: in the morning. It's the same, exactly. I do have

603
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 3: a menu, by the way. They made me a menu

604
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: the waffle house day and it's the Champion's uh Champion

605
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 3: Special and it's a little picture of me on there. Yeah,

606
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: so good, So I have it in my trophy.

607
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 2: But that's why I think we just heard Bubba Golf.

608
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 2: How he you know, plays golf and then Bubba eats.

609
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean exactly, it's amazing, Like that's a new

610
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: YouTube series. You want, you want, but you want comfort, right.

611
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: The reason why I wanted to go over to the

612
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: Manion so if I fat it, it won't be fat

613
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: in the water. So that was comfortable to me. Like

614
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: it now it doesn't make sense in your head or

615
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: your head or the announcer's hit. But that's where in

616
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 3: my head it all makes sense. And when people say, man,

617
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 3: you could do this, this and this, and man, I've

618
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: won twelve times, two majors. My career is better than

619
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 3: I ever dreamed it would be. Yeah, who doesn't want

620
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: to win forty times? But you know, some people just

621
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 3: aren't cut out for it, right.

622
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: But the thing about Bubba golf too is people out

623
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 2: always ask me, Hey, when I go out to a

624
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: tour event, you know, any type of high level golf,

625
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: who should I go watch? And I'm like, you gotta

626
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: go watch Bubba. Of course, I mean, I said, because

627
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: you do think differently than most people. You know, I'm boring.

628
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: I tried to hit it straight, right right down the middle,

629
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: not very far. You like to hit it high, you

630
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: like to cut it, you like to hit it low,

631
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: draw it. I mean, it's so much more fun to watch,

632
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: and I wish I could do it, But like you're

633
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Bubba golf is a real thing. And I

634
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: tell people all the time, you have to go watch

635
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: Bubba play golf because it's different than anybody else and

636
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: it's you're gonna enjoy yourself.

637
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's always enjoyable, and especially in

638
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: modern golf, so many players are trying to just simply

639
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: hit the ball straight. Yes, Bubba was kind of a

640
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: bit of a throwback in terms of the way he

641
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: moves it. It's funny. A buddy of mine played with you.

642
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: I think I've told you this story before, but buddy

643
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: mine played with you in a mini tour tournament years ago,

644
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: and he was a good player. His name was Casey

645
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: broad Us. He played college golf in textas he played

646
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: with you. I think was a tight lights tour venter

647
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: and Adams even or something like that.

648
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: Yep.

649
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: But he said, you're the only guy in all of

650
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: his years of playing pro golf that he called his

651
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: dad after and said, remember the name Bubba Watson. He said,

652
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: you didn't necessarily shoot a great number. I think he

653
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: said you shot three or four under, but he just said,

654
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: your ability to move the golf ball, how far you

655
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: hit it. I think you had a pink shaft you

656
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: painted yourself at the time. But he just said, this guy,

657
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: it's different to watch. And I'm assuming you've heard that

658
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: probably a lot in your life. Is that it even

659
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: from pros like I remember when you burst on the scene.

660
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: Tiger loved playing practice ons with you because it was

661
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: different to watch the way you go about your business.

662
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. So my dad used to paint all

663
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 3: my putter shafts and all my things like that, So

664
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: my putter was definitely doctored up with paint and different things.

665
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: Is that where the pink came from from? Your dad?

666
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: Is that where the Yes, my dad loves bright colors

667
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: and it stood out and it's easy to notice, and

668
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: so pink it was. It made sense because it's funny,

669
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: right when a guy has a pink driver, then he

670
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: out drives. You can't really make fun of it exactly right.

671
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: But then as I got older and became a professional golfer,

672
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: it's like, how can we help people? People help me

673
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: to get here? So then we started pink Let me

674
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: do the pink Drivers for charity, and we've helped two

675
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 3: We've helt many places around the world, but two hospitals,

676
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: the one in Phoenix, the Children's Hospital in Phoenix, Children's

677
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 3: Hospital in Pennscol, Florida. So that's what the pink drivers

678
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: are for. But no, it's it's funny. I played with

679
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: a couple guys this week that that don't really I've

680
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: never played with. One guy never played with, and so

681
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: I hit a couple of shots that were Bubba esque

682
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: and and I could see him. He looked at me,

683
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: he looked at his caddy. He looked back at me.

684
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 3: He's like, what was that. I said, well, I had

685
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: to take some off, man, so I had to hit

686
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: this big old slice and had it like this, And

687
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: he was like, okay, what I talk about. As he's

688
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: laying up on this part five and I'm going for it,

689
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: He's like, okay, okay, I didn't see it, but okay. Yeah.

690
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: So but it's like, but if you think about it,

691
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: like Bryce and d Chambeau, he plays a different game,

692
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: but it's straight correct. He's trying to hit it miles

693
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: but straight. He's not trying to do all these curves

694
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: and things. So he's still doing what everybody else is doing,

695
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: trying to hit the ball dead straight. Uh. He's just

696
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: going about differently. He thinks differently. So that's the way

697
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: he draws it up. We all draw it up differently.

698
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yours is just I think the prettiest drawing in

699
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: my opinion, Just the way again, I mean, it's just

700
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: it's just fun to watch because it's just so different.

701
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, the shot tracers messing up sometimes, Thank good, Yo,

702
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: you know what you're sure we need of the tracer

703
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: like five years earlier for Bubba, like like prime prime

704
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: prime Bubba curving the golf ball.

705
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's great. Bubba fits the Ping brand

706
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: great because like the Solheims, like Carson was thinking outside

707
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: the box when he was making his clubs. You know

708
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: what I mean, everybody's like, oh, this crazy guy is

709
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: bringing out this butter. Nobody's gonna like the butter, right,

710
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: and then once somebody gave it a chance, they're like, Wow,

711
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: this is really good. And I mean I think it's

712
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: been all the years I've been at Ping. I mean,

713
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: Bubba and the relationship he has with John has been

714
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: really special. And I think it's been a great relationship,

715
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: a great partnership for many years and for many years

716
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: to come. So and you know all the charity work

717
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: he does, He's he's got a great heart, has done

718
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: so many great things. And I think you know a

719
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: story I've never told anybody before and I'll tell it now,

720
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: but my daughter got sick when she was fifteen years old.

721
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: You know, she had leukemi and he's a big donor

722
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: at Phoenix Children's Hospital where we spent a lot of time.

723
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: But I was gone for like two weeks, you know,

724
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: two months from helping the guys on the tour and

725
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: then you know, I think the first week back, you know,

726
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: I was I'm close with bub and Teddy both, and

727
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: you know, they were encouraging me all the time. They

728
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: would text me, hey, we're praying for you. Hang in there.

729
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: And you know when I saw him, you know, they

730
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: gave me a big hug and said, hey man, we're

731
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: praying for you guy, hang in there, and the whole thing.

732
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: And these guys were really supportive. It wasn't like every

733
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: player was texting me, but these guys stayed in touch

734
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: with me all the time. They really were an encouragement.

735
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: And a couple of cool things he did for my daughter.

736
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: He did a couple of videos. One was with Ricky

737
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: I think and Pee Reid, and so, you know, my

738
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: daughter knows Bubba and knows Ricky. She's like, oh, that's cool,

739
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: that's Captain Jack. I was like, yeah, I was Ricky Fowler.

740
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: You know, he used to look like Captain Jack back then,

741
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: and then she loved Justin Bieber and his buddies of

742
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 2: Justin Bieber and they sent over a video to Gabby

743
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: Hey get well, be well, and so like Bubba's always

744
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: going to have a special place in buy heard just

745
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: through you know, difficult times in life. I mean, he's

746
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: him and Teddy both are really great and they're a

747
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: great encouragement to me. So and then the work that

748
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: they do for Phoenix Children's Hospital has been amazing, Like

749
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: we spent so much time there and all the kids

750
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: that they help is amazing.

751
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: So when did you start wanting to get into the philanthropy?

752
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: When did that become a part of you, not just

753
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: as a person, but as a pro golfer, Because I

754
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: feel like you got into it. I don't want to

755
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: say you know earlier than most people do, but it

756
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: felt like something that kind of popped up the moment

757
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: you started to become a household name.

758
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: It's funny when I was fourteen years old the golf

759
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 3: course I was playing at. The guy that's got me started.

760
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 3: He's left haended pro golfer, Harm Cook. He loves junior golf. Right,

761
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: That's how you build the game of golf, right, the

762
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: grassroots is it's not pro golfers on the PGA Tour

763
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: or at the Masters. It's the club pros in the city.

764
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the churches. They know the people

765
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: of the city, right. And so there was a special

766
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: Olympics group that used to come out and I used

767
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: to help with that, and he said, hey, why don't

768
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: you come out and help and you learn so much.

769
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys and girls are just smiling and

770
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: having a blast and all these things. So I used

771
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: to do things like that, right, I didn't think that

772
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: was helping, even though it was because time. Some people

773
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: don't have money, some people just have time, or some

774
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: people have energy or or shoulder to cry on. Whatever

775
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: that is, right, you can always help. And so for me,

776
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: I saw that. And then when as I get older,

777
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, when I start realizing what a sponsor is, well,

778
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: you know, as a kid, I didn't know that these

779
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: banners meant anything. You know, I'm playing junior golf tournament

780
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: and there's a banner over here, and there's a banner

781
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 3: over there. What is that? And then the reason why

782
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: my golf tournaments, my junior tournaments were free is because

783
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: of these sponsors or it was five I remember tournaments

784
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: were five dollars. Some tournaments, the big tournaments, you know,

785
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: there was one hundred dollars fee. But my parents would

786
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: pay for these or not pay because of sponsors and

787
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: people helping want to give back. So I learned that

788
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 3: at a young age. But then when I finally started

789
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: doing my own stuff and became a pro, I wanted

790
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: to do it listening to these guys. John Soheim has

791
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: been my granddad, right, and I know I'm putting an

792
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 3: age with him, but that's who it was, because obviously

793
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: he can't take the place of my dad, but he's

794
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: my dad figure. And so that's the guy that I

795
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: ran information by, asked him questions, even though he wanted

796
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: me to be at the Pink staff. He said, look, man,

797
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: if there's a deal out there that's better for you

798
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: and your family, you leave ping take this hat off

799
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: and go somewhere else, right like that's I'll drive you there.

800
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: And that always stuck with me. And I know how

801
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: much they give. They don't tell the world how much

802
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: they give and what they do and what they're helping.

803
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: And so that's where I just started resonating with me

804
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: and who I want to be as a person. Where

805
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: I come from, there's somebody helped me throughout all my years,

806
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: and so I wanted to give back. And then when

807
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: you start thinking about like my wife, we had to

808
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: adopt both of our kids, how would you not want

809
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: to help kids. Kids are born into a situation. They're

810
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: not asking to be in that situation, and whatever that

811
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: situation is bad or good, it just happens, right, So

812
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: let's help them develop and grow. Maybe they're going to

813
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: change the world, maybe they'll change cancer, maybe they'll be

814
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: the next president or whatever. So that's why I always

815
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: want to help the kids. And then getting involved with

816
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 3: hospitals is an amazing journey in itself. And then you know,

817
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: so it just I've done a lot of things outside

818
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: the US, a lot of things inside the US, but

819
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: the hospitals have probably been the best. Because the Watson

820
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: name will go away.

821
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: The Ping, the people of Ping will go away, but

822
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: the hospital is still going to be giving, right, so

823
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 4: your legacy is still going to be part of that history.

824
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: How is your relationship with pro golf right now? I mean,

825
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: you're still passionate about it, you still love it, and

826
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: I remember years ago. I think you said maybe that

827
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: if you win ten times, you were going to walk

828
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: away from Is that?

829
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: Is that? Right? Did you say that years and years

830
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: and I said, I said, I might just walk away

831
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 3: because I never you know, I always had a dream

832
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: to get that card, right, you know, the PJ Tour

833
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: card they actually get I don't know they give now,

834
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: but back then they gave you. Yeah, that whole thing,

835
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: and so so it was cool, right, I had it

836
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: in my interview. I never got a word out because

837
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: I was crying so bad. And then you actually win

838
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 3: a tournament, You're like, well, I guess I gotta change

839
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: my goals. I gotta win again. So then I set

840
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: my goal at ten unreachable. I'm at one and now

841
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get ten. It's unreachable goal. And then I

842
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 3: get there and you're like, I guess I gotta change

843
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: my goal. So you always have a goal, right, And

844
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: so right now, to be honest with you, I retired

845
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: from the PJ Tour. I put in my resignation and

846
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: went to live. And the reason why I went to live,

847
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: there's a many reasons, but one of the big reasons

848
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: I went to live is it's lonely out here. It's

849
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: very lonely out here. Now you have guys, but he's

850
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: working with a bunch of guys. There's other people, my

851
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: caddies got friends. I mean, it's just it's very lonely

852
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: and am now having a team. Gosh, And not to

853
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: keep talking about him, but Matthew Wolf, I see a

854
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: lot of me and Matthew. Matthew Wolf is a talent

855
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: that we rarely get to see. And so when you

856
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: think about a twenty four year old, he was I

857
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: think twelfth in the world or fourteenth in the world

858
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: at age twenty. At age twenty now and then been

859
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: through some struggles. I've been through some struggles. So going

860
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: back to the ten Wins, I wanted to retire. I

861
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: wrote a book about my issues, my mental issues, because

862
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: I don't Anthony Kim. There's a lot of people I'm

863
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: mentioning now. Anthony Kim mentioned it last week that you're lonely.

864
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: He felt lonely. A million people could be around you,

865
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: but you still feel lonely. And that's how I feel.

866
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: That's how I felt, and I didn't know how to

867
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: deal with it, and so I wrote the book to

868
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: help me. But help other people. And then Matthew Wolf,

869
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: I see a lot of him and me, or me

870
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 3: and him, or however you want to word it. And

871
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: such a great talent, better talent that I've ever been.

872
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: And but forget his talent, who he is as a

873
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: person is what I want to help. So live is

874
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: giving me that opportunity. Being a team golf gives me

875
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 3: the opportunity to help people around me and just be

876
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: a light for the people. I don't might not have

877
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: to say words to you, but if you watch what

878
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: I'm doing. How when I leave my wife or how

879
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 3: I greet my wife, I always give her a kiss

880
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: because it could be the last time. YE always tell

881
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 3: him I love her always when I say bye, going whatever, right,

882
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: you tell her as much as you can. And then

883
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 3: he'll see that and go, oh, Kim his fiance soon

884
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: to be wife. You know, he might feed off of that.

885
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: I fed off that from my dad, and so you know,

886
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 3: there's little things you can teach without even saying a word.

887
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: And but the first phone call I made to him

888
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: when I made the trade was Matt I've been trying

889
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: to get you on my in my life for five years.

890
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: We've been friends. I've helped you send you text, but

891
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: now I want to help you. And I said, I

892
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: don't care what you shoot. You could shoot a hundred

893
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: for the rest of your life. That's not what I

894
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: care about. And so so that's where when you ask

895
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: about the game of golf, my game of golf. I'm

896
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: healthy about almost two years for my surgery, where they

897
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: said I was going to blossom around two year mark.

898
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: Just like any athlete that has surgery, about the two

899
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: year market, you start really filling one hundred percent and

900
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: I'm forty five, but I feel energetic, I'm excited. And

901
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: then having people around me a team, when we can

902
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: battle together, it's just like Ryder Cup President's got I

903
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: want to battle with them. Even if we don't hang

904
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: out for that one week, we're best friends totally, and

905
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: we are pulling. We are blood, sweat and tears together.

906
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: And so that's where my journey of golf right now

907
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: is at an all time high because it's not about me anymore.

908
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: For years, it's all about me, and I don't care

909
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: what you want to do. It's about me, and so

910
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: now it's so much more fun than that is. It

911
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: is a long answer, but it only was a great answer.

912
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: Is it strange to be a mentor? Like you know,

913
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: I mean you, like you mentioned, you're a young person.

914
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: You come up and you're taking this from this person,

915
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: and you're giving this to this person. Then you get

916
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: to a point in your career where all of a

917
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: sudden you can kind of give back to this younger

918
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: generation that, as you said, you might see some of

919
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: you in or you might see him going down a

920
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: path that you think might not be the right path.

921
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: Is it strange to be a mentor now in your career?

922
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: It is because of the fact that for so long

923
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 3: I was so selfish, right, right, young people are selfish

924
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: as we all are like that, right, and sometimes you

925
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: might even creep into the old people with selfish. I

926
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: was kind of in that area too, And so you know,

927
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: for me, I was so selfish for so long. And

928
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if many kids, when I say kids

929
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 3: below thirty can can be as good as they are

930
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: without being a little selfish or a lot selfish. But

931
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: the one person that comes to mind is jordan'spief. I've

932
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: always looked up to Jordan speech, even when he was younger, right,

933
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: he was so Yeah, we all get animated, but man,

934
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: his mindset, his drive, his parents, I mean having his

935
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: sister now married with kids. But like just watching him, yeah,

936
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: we're always gonna have moments, but watching him and how

937
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: he carries himself and how he is always kind and considerate.

938
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 3: I always think of him as older than he truly

939
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: is right. And so going back to that, there's no

940
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 3: way at that age and that's successful. Oh my gosh,

941
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: who knows where i'd be right? If I was successful

942
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 3: as Anthony Kim at his age, I probably would have

943
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 3: been dumber than I am right, and I was pretty dumb.

944
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: I got a lot of stuff written about me that

945
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: was pretty dumb. But you know, so you know, I

946
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: now being able to especially a guy that's willing to listen,

947
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: a twenty four year old Matt Wolfer or anybody else

948
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: that's willing to listen, I'm thankful for that because like

949
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: Matt's almost I'm almost double his age, and I'm like, look, man,

950
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: I'm catching I'm trying to help you catch stuff before

951
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 3: you get to where I'm at and have to write

952
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: a book about the problems. But so, yeah, it's crazy

953
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: to think about, but it's overwhelming, truly to think about.

954
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: And I mean, I'll probably tear up. But when people

955
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: come to me and say, hey, man, this book meant

956
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: this to me, this book this, and let me tell

957
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: you what's going on in my life, and and it's

958
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: it's amazing. I've had volunteers, I've had tournament directors, I've

959
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: had players, I've had caddies, I've had random people on

960
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: the streets to tell me about my book and what

961
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: that meant to them. I mean, so yeah, it's it's

962
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: crazy to think that this goofy golfer that's never had

963
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 3: a lesson from Baghdad is now looked up to and

964
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: and and and not only for them, but my two kids, right,

965
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: and I've got to be a leader for them. And

966
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: so yeah, it's it's overwhelming to think about all the

967
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: stuff that I've been able to do and accomplish. This

968
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: means the most.

969
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's awesome. And then I mean my thought,

970
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: you know, when I was working with you on the reins,

971
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: and we must have been dumb and dumber, because.

972
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 3: Which one's dumber?

973
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: I think it's stay to day before we go, Bubba,

974
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I do want to ask just two equipment things. One

975
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: is the grips. Yeah, okay, I mean, you know, you

976
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: grow up a young person, you have just a normal grip.

977
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's how we do it. Maybe you wrap

978
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: it a couple of times. I mean yours have like

979
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: fourteen wraps under one hand and not so many under

980
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: the other.

981
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: When did that start? Why do you do it?

982
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: And how annoyed did these guys get when they have

983
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: to regrip your things with fourteen exactly on one side.

984
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: That's not that bad.

985
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: Say let's start from the last part. Man, they hate

986
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: it when I come in, They're like, man, we got

987
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: to cut out the whole day. We're only doing Bubba's grips.

988
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: Got everybody in the factory work, And what is it?

989
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 3: Fourteen under the left hand? Is that right? No?

990
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: So it depends on the club. So the drivers like

991
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: ten and twelve, you know, ten wraps on the top

992
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: and twelve on the bottom. I always say top and

993
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: bottom because he's the left. He always get the hands confused.

994
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: And then like his wedge was always bigger as I

995
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: think it was eleven and thirteen. But now Spencer's told

996
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: me you've got another one in there. There's like a

997
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 2: twelve and fourteen. Yeah, I don't know exactly we're always

998
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: trying to help him cut the ball. Okay, so the

999
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: bigger grip helps that, and he sets it like ten

1000
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 2: degrees open. I'm like, there's no way it's ten degrees.

1001
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think it's way more than ten degrees,

1002
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: but we call it ten degrees like the actual grip.

1003
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: Like if you have the logo of the grip going down.

1004
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: Said, is that the irons because you know the driver,

1005
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: the irons in the lobways are different, correct different?

1006
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: There are those are the three difference, and then the

1007
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: other thing that's the grip, the big grip, and then

1008
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: the hard part, you know, putting on the grip, which

1009
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: I don't have to put on the grip. So it's

1010
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: no big deal. But if the guys don't mark down,

1011
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 2: they can lose count. You know when you're counting. Wait

1012
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: a minute, did I mark it down or did I

1013
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: not mark it down?

1014
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: I think I did, and sometimes they redo it and

1015
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: then yeah, I forgot, I'm twelve. I don't know.

1016
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: The greatest thing is his feel is so good. He

1017
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: can tell if there's not enough raps or too many wraps.

1018
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: And then the other thing is the manufacturing process is

1019
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 2: not perfect, so sometimes the grips are a little different sizing.

1020
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: And then the other thing we do to help him

1021
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 2: cut the ball is we do a deep heel grind

1022
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: on his irons, so we cut off. There was a time,

1023
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: I think when he first started with the S five

1024
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: to fives, which lasted like ten years, you know, there

1025
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: was a time where we went through it. Hey, we're

1026
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: been in a flatter trying to get him to cut

1027
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: a little bit more. Felt like the heel was grabbing,

1028
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: so we just you know, grind off the heel a

1029
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: little bit. And we did the same with the BLUEPRINTSSS.

1030
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 2: So you got a nice But the grips are amazing.

1031
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I love showing. We always we still do

1032
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: have a Bubba driver in there. People come in, they

1033
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: can grab it and they're like, wow, how kam. It's

1034
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: on sideways and that's way he likes it. So he's

1035
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: a field guy there.

1036
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 3: There's a lot to uncover here, but yeah, a lot

1037
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: of I mean we're pulling back some here's but here's

1038
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 3: the thing though, so goes back to how I play golf. Right,

1039
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: Charles Howe. I've known him since we're eight years old.

1040
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: Charles how somewhere fourteen something he had bigger grips. And

1041
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: the reason why he had bigger grips he wanted when

1042
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: he choked up, he wanted to kind of feel the same.

1043
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: You can't, you can't have it perfect. It has to

1044
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: be a little off.

1045
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: But I think, right, there has to be taper by

1046
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: the USA rules.

1047
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: So it can't be the same. But he used to

1048
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: have that. Man I grab it, and man, that feels great.

1049
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: But then so now the beauty of Ping that people

1050
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: don't talk about enough or people don't realize enough, the

1051
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: beauty of Ping, it's all engineers. The soul how family

1052
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: is pure engineer. That's true, right, yeah, oh yeah, right,

1053
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: I mean.

1054
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: They're engineering as an engineering company, right.

1055
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean we had we had John k was selling

1056
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: stories during COVID. He was down there building golf clubs,

1057
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like literally building golf courds

1058
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty.

1059
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: Yes, and then but then in but Carson Manufacturing, they've

1060
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: worked with the military, they've worked with medical, they've they've

1061
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: done a lot of things behind the scenes that people

1062
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 3: don't know. And that was Carson Manufacturing. It's the same

1063
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: factory as Ping, it's the same family, same everything. So

1064
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 3: so when we think of this now, Bubba Golf. Instead

1065
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: of me changing who I am as a person and

1066
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: changing your grip and doing this and your hands too

1067
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: far this way, let's get it this way. That can

1068
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: that changed my whole feel off, Let's work with who

1069
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 3: I am and fix that. Okay, So if we open

1070
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: the grips, then the club now with my quick hands,

1071
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: you know, I'll just say I have quick hands. I

1072
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 3: have good feel on my hands on stuff. So that's

1073
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: why I played a natural hook. And so now to

1074
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 3: slow my hands down and my wrist down, let's build

1075
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: the grips up. So we built them up to slow

1076
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: them down from rotating. Now we open them so then

1077
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: that'll help slow down the rotation and keep the face

1078
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 3: where I want it to be so I can maneuver

1079
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: the ball hooks or slices. Then, so that was how

1080
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 3: I thought of the game of golf. Then the ping

1081
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: just made the engineering work. I didn't know how to

1082
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 3: make it work, but I said, here's what I want

1083
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: to do. I don't want to change me. I want

1084
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 3: to change the equipment. That's the beauty of custom equipment.

1085
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: Every person, all three of us, are going to be different. Right.

1086
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: You might like something I might think this is the

1087
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: worst thing ever, but it works, and Ping is the

1088
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: company that can do it and make it work for you.

1089
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: And one of the things I'm working on right now

1090
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: is a putter. And this is why I said it's

1091
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: a long answer. So I'm working on a putter. I've

1092
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: used this one putter and one style putter for all

1093
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: thirteen wins across across the board. It's the same style putter.

1094
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: But then Ping was like, hey man, why don't we

1095
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: do this putter to make you hit it further? And

1096
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 3: when I say further, because everybody says I lag putts

1097
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: and I come it short, which I do, but it's

1098
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 3: it's it's easy to say, hit it a foot harder,

1099
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: you know what. I'm okay, you don't just that's my swing,

1100
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: that's my putting struck. This is this is, this is

1101
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 3: who I am as a person. So they said, okay,

1102
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: we're gonna make this putter this way. They engineered a

1103
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 3: putter to hit it harder, and they do, and it does.

1104
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: It does exactly what they wanted it to do. Then

1105
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: they said, hey, your putter faces is closing too fast,

1106
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: so we needed we're gonna change this hozzle and make

1107
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 3: it arc less and not change you. We're not gonna

1108
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: change anything about you, but we're gonna change it. Now

1109
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 3: what the computer can't tell you. I don't like it.

1110
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: When I look down at it, I'm like, something doesn't

1111
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: look right here, right, the neck being too long. It

1112
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: makes me feel weird, right, It's just just the feeling.

1113
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 3: So my long answer is now we're back to the

1114
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: PLD answer style putter. But that's where when you asked

1115
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: me about the grit and why and what am I doing? Now,

1116
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: let's go back to that. The driver I want less

1117
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 3: open so I can hit the straight bullet when I

1118
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: need it. It's built to slice, cut right, and so

1119
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: I want it to do that under pressure. But if

1120
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: I need a hole that I got to try to

1121
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: hit one straight. That's where I have the ability to

1122
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: do it. My irons are built I always said, I

1123
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: always say two degrees open, four degrees open, and so

1124
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: that because I like the look of it. I can

1125
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: see the face when I set it down on the ground. Now,

1126
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: the lob wedge, the reason why it's built higher because

1127
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 3: I feel when I'm trying to hit the field shots,

1128
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 3: the bunker shots or the flop shot, or the little

1129
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: shots around long on fifteen. You were talking about it, right,

1130
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to hit these shots because I use

1131
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 3: a lob wedge everywhere bump and runs, spins, flops everything.

1132
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: So I want it more open and I want it

1133
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: bigger so that I can feel comfortable when I grip this,

1134
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: that I can pull these shots off that I want

1135
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 3: to pull off. So that's another demand. Going back to pinging,

1136
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: What again is that I use ping engineers? They used

1137
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: me because I'm the computer. Can only tell you so much, right,

1138
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: it can tell you if we were perfect robots, these

1139
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: are the perfect clubs, right, But now they need me

1140
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: to test them and hit them and tell them this

1141
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: is what I like and don't like. Now sometimes they

1142
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 3: don't like it when I tell them certain answers.

1143
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: But but Christian's like, all right, I gotta go back

1144
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: and figure this out.

1145
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: Thirteen we had thirteen I think it was thirteen clubs

1146
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: or twelve clubs, and they were all one one degree apart,

1147
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 3: and I went through. They set them on the ground

1148
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: one degree apart and little test and they tested me. Yeah,

1149
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: that was perfect. I grabbed it. I was like, oh yeah,

1150
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 3: this one's that. No, this is that.

1151
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: The great thing about Bubba. I loved working with Bubba

1152
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: is because one of his famous quotes was, I think

1153
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: when track men first came out, He's like, I don't

1154
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: need track men to tell me when I hit a

1155
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: good shot, Like I know what a good shot. He

1156
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't use it for a while at the start, and

1157
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: then we started using it, and it's like a tool, right,

1158
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: But still his eye has seen him hit the good shots.

1159
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: He knows what he wants, and so.

1160
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: The feel in the field that of course track mans

1161
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: are they can't computers can't tell you what it feels like,

1162
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 3: feel good.

1163
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: And that's the great thing too. Whenever we would bring

1164
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: a new club out, he could hit it once or

1165
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: twice and he knew right away and like there was

1166
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: no messing around. He was like, we either built it

1167
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: right or it's right for him, and the field is

1168
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 2: on and it's gonna be good or not. I can't remember.

1169
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: I think it was the Phoenix over when we came out,

1170
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: it was like the four to ten and it was

1171
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: like on a Sunday maybe, and we went out and

1172
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: tested the drivers. It was I think the four ten plus.

1173
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: It was brand new, and he's the first one we

1174
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: tested the driver with because I mean he's the best

1175
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: driver in.

1176
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: The world, the fastest car in the world as well,

1177
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: use it exactly right.

1178
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: And so he's out there hammering these shots on the

1179
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: back of the ring at TPC, you know, Scottsdale, and

1180
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: they were I mean, they were beautiful and I'm just

1181
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: like salivating over here, and he hasn't said anything in

1182
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: and he's like, this is really good. He kept looking

1183
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: at it. He wasn't saying anything, but it was good.

1184
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: Like I knew after he hit a couple he hit

1185
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: or like he likes it right because he he could

1186
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: tell me right away. He's like a take it away,

1187
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: take it away.

1188
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: I mean, come on back to the shot. One shot,

1189
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: I can be done with it. Yes, And that's exactly know.

1190
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: But that was that was the black one. Yes, that

1191
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: wasn't pink.

1192
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: It wasn't pink.

1193
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: That's right that I'm not that I we didn't have

1194
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 3: the pink one yet high rent and I need a

1195
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 3: pink driver, but I mean I didn't have a pink driver.

1196
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: And they and I was like, can I play it?

1197
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: And they said yeah, I said, I'm gonna play this one,

1198
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: but it's black. So I used it for for that

1199
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 3: week I think for sure, and then the next week

1200
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: I had a pink one, but they were like I

1201
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: was like, no, I want this one, pink. I love

1202
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: this one.

1203
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: Because when I remember my boss Chance Cosby at the time,

1204
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: he said, hey, how to go, I said, it's awesome,

1205
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: like we got something here, like he loved it. I

1206
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: mean it was, it was beautiful.

1207
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but listen, we really appreciate the time. I know

1208
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: you got a busy week. Obviously, same Champions dinner menu.

1209
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: Both times you've won, you win this week? Are we

1210
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: going three for three?

1211
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: Same thing? And m Rom said it best in some

1212
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 3: of his interviews is that it's a it's a little

1213
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: taste of his hair, it's a little taste of his grandma.

1214
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's a reasons why we do everything. Totally.

1215
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 3: We can lie and say whatever, But my mom, that's

1216
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 3: the She's from Mississippi. I'm from the South country. Cooking.

1217
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: It's home cooking. It's the feel good foods. It's the

1218
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: foods that everybody likes and and it's and it's an

1219
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: homage to my mom, right, like you want my mom

1220
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: to feel special at this at this event. My dad

1221
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 3: didn't cook anything for us. So if my dad was

1222
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 3: still alive, you know he's you ain't getting nothing.

1223
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: But the last thing, last thing I did read that

1224
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: you eat before the Champions Center. In case, what is

1225
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: that still true? You still power through a couple of

1226
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: burritos before the Champions Center.

1227
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 3: This this week, I will definitely eat before.

1228
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I go not because that's chestnut Checkers dude, like

1229
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: you're thinking outside of the people.

1230
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: People ask why, they said why, I said, first of all,

1231
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: we've got the greatest golf from it ever produced the

1232
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: greatest sporting event in the world. People don't even play

1233
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 3: golfer watching this right, So yeah, I won't comfort food.

1234
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: I want my body to know what we're eating. I

1235
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 3: want my body to be used to it, and I

1236
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: want to be ready to go in two days.

1237
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: No curveballs, no curveballs.

1238
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: Listen, but we really appreciate the time. Good luck this week,

1239
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: awesome catching up. This is the Ping proven Grounds Podcast