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Speaker 2: A man comes up with an ingenious solution to end
Speaker 2: a stalemate of a war that's been raging for a decade,
Speaker 2: and it works, But will he spend the rest of
Speaker 2: his life regretting it? It's The Odyssey and it isn't
Speaker 2: streaming anywhere, but it may just be the year's best
Speaker 2: movie so far. I'm Jordan Hoffman.
Speaker 3: And I'm that singer. With more movies, more series, more
Speaker 3: stuff going straight to streaming than ever before, it felt
Speaker 3: like the right time for podcast it keeps track of
Speaker 3: it all, and that podcast is usually Film Spotting SVU.
Speaker 3: But we're talking about a new movie this week. We
Speaker 3: violate singers law.
Speaker 2: We are being hubristic toward the gods. We're chopping off
Speaker 2: Athena's head right here and do it.
Speaker 3: We are not gonna talk about a streaming movie for
Speaker 3: one week. Jordan Hoffman cannot not talk about the Odyssey,
Speaker 3: and we're indulging him by talking about Christopher Nolan's Odyssey. Plus,
Speaker 3: we're gonna give you some Odyssey related streaming recommendations that
Speaker 3: you can watch at home. We will run down the
Speaker 3: week's new streaming titles and we will play a game.
Speaker 3: And it is all coming up on Film Spotting SVU.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Film Spotting SVU. I'm Jordan Hoffman and Hey,
Speaker 2: Matt Singer. Is this a very special episode of SVU?
Speaker 2: Are we sluing it up in a special way? I
Speaker 2: think we are. We're ignoring the prime director and we're
Speaker 2: talking about a film that is not stream it will
Speaker 2: stream eventually, which which of the services? I guess. I
Speaker 2: guess Peacock.
Speaker 3: Peak Peacock would be the obvious choice.
Speaker 2: Because it's a union in the US. Is being distributed
Speaker 2: by Universal Pictures. It'll go to Peacock, but you can
Speaker 2: also you know, I think Amazon for three bucks, and
Speaker 2: people are gonna want to do that because the Odyssey
Speaker 2: it's all anybody's talking about. Even my parents, who never
Speaker 2: go to the movies, are thinking about going, but they're
Speaker 2: very concerned.
Speaker 3: They have never seen it, but they're thinking about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like, maybe we should go see the Odyssey,
Speaker 2: but it's three hours eugh, because I'm like, yeah, but
Speaker 2: it flies by, and I say, it's only three hours
Speaker 2: to you, it's twenty years to Odysseus. I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: they're thinking about it is shouting, so listen. The Odyssey
Speaker 2: is a big ass movie. I mean, Christopher Nolan coming
Speaker 2: off of his a billion dollar box office hit and
Speaker 2: oscar Win Oppenheimer, could he up it. He went in.
Speaker 2: He put in all all his chips on The Odyssey,
Speaker 2: a movie that, by the way, he kind of has
Speaker 2: always wanted to make because originally he was tapped to
Speaker 2: do Troy, which was I guess now how long ago
Speaker 2: was Troy.
Speaker 3: That was almost twenty five years.
Speaker 2: He was originally in talks, but A Wolfgang Peterson was
Speaker 2: going to do it. Then Peterson stepped out pre Batman.
Speaker 2: Nolan was going to do it, and he wanted to
Speaker 2: do what he did here with the Trojan Horse. He said,
Speaker 2: let's not do the typical trojan horse we've seen on wheels,
Speaker 2: Let's do it. You know where people are drowning, They're
Speaker 2: in there for days, shitting all over each other and
Speaker 2: being miserable, and then Peterson's like, hey, guess what, I
Speaker 2: can make Troy again, and they're like, Chris Nolan, take
Speaker 2: a crazy horse and get the hell out of here.
Speaker 2: And he went and made something else instead. It all
Speaker 2: kind of worked out in the long run. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a big movie, and you know, there was a
Speaker 2: little bit I don't want to give this too much oxygen,
Speaker 2: but there was a lot of pre feedback, mostly for
Speaker 2: dumb reasons. A lot of these bozos. It's funny because
Speaker 2: they they're the origin of these right wing bozos online
Speaker 2: kind of had their roots in Batman, which is where
Speaker 2: Nolan made his bone, so to speak. A lot of
Speaker 2: these bozos were very upset about the movie that they
Speaker 2: hadn't seen yet, and it turns out that they were
Speaker 2: wrong about what they thought was absolutely gonna happen in
Speaker 2: the movie, and they were like, we're boycotting it. It's
Speaker 2: gonna bomb, and it did not bomb. It's doing quite well.
Speaker 2: And the jokes on them. But more importantly, it's just
Speaker 2: I gotta say, if you ignore that side of the
Speaker 2: quote unquote online discourse about the Odyssey, you just ignore
Speaker 2: all the sort of the racist stuff and the anti
Speaker 2: trance stuff and all the nonsense. Most of the conversation
Speaker 2: has actually been pretty good. Like people are kind of
Speaker 2: excited about a book they were assigned to read in
Speaker 2: ninth grade, and if there are anything like me, they
Speaker 2: didn't actually read. They just kind of paid attention in
Speaker 2: class to do well on the test. And sales of
Speaker 2: The Odyssey and the Iliad on on tracking like Amazon
Speaker 2: forty percent up when people buy in the Odyssey. I'll
Speaker 2: admit that includes myself. I went and bought the Emily
Speaker 2: Wilson translation, which now sits on a shelf and I'll
Speaker 2: probably never actually open, but now I have it. Now
Speaker 2: I'm going to try to read it before the end
Speaker 2: of the year. So it's kind of cool. America has
Speaker 2: Odyssey fever. The Globe has Odyssey fever, and it's thanks
Speaker 2: to a really cool movie shot in the very difficult way. Matt,
Speaker 2: did you see did you see the sixty minutes episode
Speaker 2: with Christopher Nolan's showing off how they handcut the seventy
Speaker 2: millimeter negative and the way they do the old fashioned
Speaker 2: color timing without computers. It's kind of like a home
Speaker 2: It's not a it's a modern movie. Modern circa fifty
Speaker 2: years ago. It's a very homespun crafty thing that's out
Speaker 2: there right now.
Speaker 3: I did not see that, but I'm sure that sounds interesting,
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, but yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: A good movie.
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad. You're you're this hype hyped for it.
Speaker 2: You do not have Odyssey fever.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: I liked it, and now life goes on. I will,
Speaker 3: I will, I will endure. I have not bought a
Speaker 3: copy of the Odyssey. I will not be rereading the
Speaker 3: Odyssey read Why why would anyone want to reread it?
Speaker 3: After watching I feel like a lot of people are
Speaker 3: going to buy that book and it's gonna sit on
Speaker 3: that shelf and they're gonna read like one page. They're
Speaker 3: gonna see out dense and Greek. It is.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of stuff that's not in the
Speaker 2: movie that's in the tail, you know. And the movie
Speaker 2: itself also is is a hodgepodge of It's mostly the Odyssey,
Speaker 2: some of the Iliad, and even a little bit of
Speaker 2: the a Nid, which wasn't even written by Homer. It
Speaker 2: was written by some other guy named a lawsuit. That's
Speaker 2: a lawsuit right there. There's gonna be a so there's
Speaker 2: a nice hodgepodge there. And I don't know, well, I,
Speaker 2: despite your lack of enthusiasm, I have Odyssey fever.
Speaker 3: I know you do.
Speaker 2: Can't stop talking about cyclopses and lotus eaters and bad
Speaker 2: weather on the g and C. Lack of GPS is
Speaker 2: a problem.
Speaker 3: Sure, I'm still trying to get to the root of
Speaker 3: what it is about this movie. Obviously it is, you know,
Speaker 3: very handsomely made, beautifully crafted. It does have spectacular images,
Speaker 3: and the cast is really good. But we do see
Speaker 3: movies that maybe are not quite to this level of craft.
Speaker 3: But we see a lot of great movies every year,
Speaker 3: and not all of them inspire you, Jordan Hoffman, to
Speaker 3: be messaging me at all hours and making memes and everything.
Speaker 3: And I asked you this question last time, and then
Speaker 3: I listened to the episode and I don't feel I
Speaker 3: got a satisfying answer. I just like want to I
Speaker 3: really want to know what is it that you love
Speaker 3: about this movie? Forget about okay, well I didn't like
Speaker 3: this book in English?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah?
Speaker 3: What is it about this version that you are so captivated?
Speaker 2: But I'm going to give you an answer and I
Speaker 2: will say that when Oppenheimer came out, I got a
Speaker 2: little bit obsessed with that too, But I and I
Speaker 2: did read that book. I read that book before the movie,
Speaker 2: the specific Oppenheimer biography that's very, very lengthy, and that
Speaker 2: did kind of get me primed for why I felt
Speaker 2: that it was just such a very important story and
Speaker 2: whatever represented to modern living. I think what I like
Speaker 2: about this so much is that it is like the
Speaker 2: er text of like all fantasy and all science fiction.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, maybe there is something older
Speaker 2: in non Western traditions. Maybe there's a text, an ancient
Speaker 2: Chinese text or something that's older. It's possible, but I
Speaker 2: mean from you know, I grew up in the USA,
Speaker 2: so where the Western CIV classes are what we took,
Speaker 2: and you know, this is kind of where, not where
Speaker 2: history starts, but like crazy ass stories about exciting worlds,
Speaker 2: and you know, I love Star Trek and every week
Speaker 2: they go to a different planet.
Speaker 3: Play the red alert sound here, Sam.
Speaker 2: Every week they go to a different island, and it's
Speaker 2: the island of the giants, or the island of the
Speaker 2: woman who makes you stew that turns you into a pig,
Speaker 2: or the my favorite island that Charlie's the on will
Speaker 2: feed you flowers island and wearing a fishing net or
Speaker 2: I think what it is is like as someone with
Speaker 2: a streak of like, I like, I like completionism. I'm
Speaker 2: giving you a little window into my neurosis.
Speaker 3: I like what I on the couch tell me.
Speaker 2: I like completionism, and I like like knowing something top
Speaker 2: to bottom, which is why when I, when I at
Speaker 2: age fourteen, said I am going to get into Star Trek.
Speaker 3: I have played the red alert sound here again plays Sam.
Speaker 2: I have read every Star Trek comic. I've read a
Speaker 2: lot of the Star Trek books. I know Star Trek
Speaker 2: in and out, and so I feel like I've conquered
Speaker 2: Star Trek a little bit. So with this, it's like
Speaker 2: Christopher Nolan, who's been making really cool movies, very inventive movies,
Speaker 2: Inception Interstellar, very creative. It's like he realized it all starts,
Speaker 2: that it's all starts. We all got to go back
Speaker 2: to one. Where did this all start. It all started
Speaker 2: with the Odyssey. I'm gonna put my premature on it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it my way. It has his formalist tricks,
Speaker 2: the way he uses editing, the way he uses music,
Speaker 2: the way he cuts on the timeline, the way he
Speaker 2: uses a big imax camera, which you'll notice even if
Speaker 2: you see it in non imax, as I did, it
Speaker 2: still looks big somehow, the close ups and whatnot. So
Speaker 2: I just feel like he's he's a guy who's saying
Speaker 2: I am going to go back to the beginning and
Speaker 2: and understand everything about fantasy and sci fi and do
Speaker 2: it my way, and this is kind of where it
Speaker 2: all starts. So I think that that scratches an itch
Speaker 2: for me of like understanding things from the beginning.
Speaker 3: That's a better that's a better answer. Now I feel
Speaker 3: like I've gained a little bit more of a window.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you even quite realize what
Speaker 3: you just said. You also just kind of compared yourself
Speaker 3: to him. You just said that you felt like he
Speaker 3: is going back to the beginning and trying to be
Speaker 3: completion as much as you are. So you're saying essentially
Speaker 3: that you like this one in because you're you're people
Speaker 3: kinship with him.
Speaker 2: People confuse me and Christopher Nolan and all I've seen.
Speaker 2: I mean, I am a tall, blonde British man with
Speaker 2: a scarf in eighty degree weather. I always drink a
Speaker 2: cup of tea. Have you met mister Nolan ever? Have
Speaker 2: you ever been like at a thing where.
Speaker 3: I mean, I hosted the New York Film Critics Circle
Speaker 3: Awards where he was given uh An Award. So I
Speaker 3: don't think we other than exchanging maybe a word of congratulations,
Speaker 3: we didn't really meet, you didn't. But I have been
Speaker 3: in his presence. He's a very handsome man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've been, not to brag, but I've been
Speaker 2: I think one, one, two, three occasions kind of been
Speaker 2: at a thing where it's like, Hoffman, you're up, go
Speaker 2: talk to this man. And I've been alone with him
Speaker 2: for a few minutes. And one time he truly was
Speaker 2: just drinking English breakfast tea in a little cup. It
Speaker 2: was wonderful. And he always wore a scarf. But like,
Speaker 2: he's a very relatable dude. I mean, there's you know,
Speaker 2: people who were very very successful. That's their thing. They
Speaker 2: make everybody feel at ease, you know. Yes, I have
Speaker 2: a friend of mine, very good friend of mine. He
Speaker 2: used to work at Paramount for a long time in
Speaker 2: the marketing department, and he they would periodically get the
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise visit to pump him up before it was
Speaker 2: time to start releasing that first trailer to whatever Mission
Speaker 2: Impossible movie, And he said he joked, he and his
Speaker 2: friend's joked is like, oh, here comes Tom Cruise to
Speaker 2: give us all the pep rally and like, no kidding,
Speaker 2: all irony just dropped when he left the building, like
Speaker 2: they were ready to climb a mountain. They were ready,
Speaker 2: Like I will do anything for that man. I could
Speaker 2: rip apart a bear. He has given me so much
Speaker 2: adrenaline right now. Because they're saying about certain people that
Speaker 2: they really just inspire something, and I think that Nolan
Speaker 2: is one of the very different from Tom Cruise. Obviously
Speaker 2: he's not jumping out of airplanes, but he's just an
Speaker 2: inspiring dude. So I don't know. I guess that's it.
Speaker 2: I guess I have a little bit of a crush
Speaker 2: on the guy. What can I say?
Speaker 3: That's all right, A lot of people do. I mean,
Speaker 3: That's part of the reason I'm asking is, you know,
Speaker 3: I admire his work. I've enjoyed a lot of his movies.
Speaker 3: I've loved a lot a few of his movies, but
Speaker 3: I just people revere him in a way that that
Speaker 3: I don't quite you know, like I just I guess
Speaker 3: I wish. I wish I felt as passionately about all
Speaker 3: of his movies the way that you feel about The
Speaker 3: Odyssey and that a lot of people feel about it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I guess I love that we have a big
Speaker 3: hit movie in theaters right now that was shot, as
Speaker 3: you said, shot on big film cameras, and that is
Speaker 3: being sold as a theatrical experience, and that yes, it
Speaker 3: has a ton of movie stars. It has almost every
Speaker 3: movie star on the planet in it. But it's also okay, well,
Speaker 3: I guess it is the original IP as you said,
Speaker 3: but this is not a superhero Well it is kind
Speaker 3: of a superhero movie, but it is, but that it
Speaker 3: is a it is literally good old fashioned storytelling, and
Speaker 3: I love all of that about it. But I don't know,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's not that much better that people
Speaker 3: should only get excited for Christopher Nolan movies. I wish
Speaker 3: people got this excited for the five other masterpieces we
Speaker 3: get every single year, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like, what are masterpieces of this level? Of this level
Speaker 2: are also like action adventure, there are great movies you know,
Speaker 2: after Sun is a great movie that touched me and
Speaker 2: moved me emotionally. But that's about a little girl crying
Speaker 2: on her vacation because her dad's a mess. It's not
Speaker 2: about it's not about giants.
Speaker 3: And the Odyssey is about an older woman crying because
Speaker 3: her husband is a mess. I mean there's.
Speaker 2: Whirlpools and giants and things like that. It's got that action.
Speaker 2: I don't let me ease you this way, Matt saying
Speaker 2: you are not alone. I know a few other people
Speaker 2: that are in your camp that are like B plus
Speaker 2: B plus. You know my friend Mike Miller Entertainment Weekly.
Speaker 2: He's the the Nolan, the nuanced no old man. For
Speaker 2: years we had this argument after Oppenheiri came out. He
Speaker 2: was just like B plus And there are other people too.
Speaker 2: But for me, I will say there were moments when
Speaker 2: I watched The Odyssey when and this is gonna sound
Speaker 2: obnoxious and make make me sound like the film broweus
Speaker 2: of film bros. But there were two moments where I
Speaker 2: was like this, this is the living Kubrick. You know,
Speaker 2: he is as good as we're gonna get. It was
Speaker 2: the moment when they were running away from the giants,
Speaker 2: and just the way that was put together and just
Speaker 2: the the you know, the the mix, the way was edited,
Speaker 2: and the just the look of fear on their faces.
Speaker 2: And then the final uh see final shipwreck when Heimis
Speaker 2: Patel is lost to Poside, you know, the wingman, the
Speaker 2: riker to uh to Odysseus's card is lost and when
Speaker 2: that moment. And I've seen a million shipwrecks and movies before,
Speaker 2: and this wasn't even like a particularly like on the page.
Speaker 2: It was like and then there was a shipwreck, but
Speaker 2: the way it was put together, the look on the
Speaker 2: face of them, I was just like levitating from from
Speaker 2: my seat. I don't know, It's just what can I say?
Speaker 2: It was? It was it was my reaction, and I'm
Speaker 2: glad I had it. If you're stuck in B plus Phil,
Speaker 2: I you know that's I can't. I can't rescue you.
Speaker 2: If you're eating lotuses with Charley, it's their own on
Speaker 2: B plus Island.
Speaker 3: Do you have to I'm trying to remember why I
Speaker 3: love you, mean four sped lotus flower.
Speaker 2: You need to throw yourself, take the leap of faith
Speaker 2: yourself and get off of B plus Island. But I
Speaker 2: don't know I'd be curious to know from the listeners,
Speaker 2: because I'm imagining that most listeners have seen it by now.
Speaker 2: Am I nuts? Am I blowing smoke? Am I? Am
Speaker 2: I eating the cool drinking the Lotus kool aid here,
Speaker 2: or a little a little bit of reservation? Let us
Speaker 2: know it. Feedback at film Spotting svu dot com and
Speaker 2: we'll maybe we'll read some Odyssey related related letters on
Speaker 2: the party.
Speaker 3: Just not gonna let this movie go. We're gonna extend
Speaker 3: it as long as we can, even though it's not
Speaker 3: a streaming movie. We're gonna doys. We'll do a revisit, right,
Speaker 3: we will travel. We're gonna have a We're gonna go
Speaker 3: to Greece and visit the famous sites of the Odyssey.
Speaker 3: There's money in the budget for that, Sam right to
Speaker 3: take a like to go of the oysse.
Speaker 2: I've never been to Greece, but I have been to
Speaker 2: Italy and twice I've been to spots that are like
Speaker 2: at least in the ancient world. I've been to Pompeii.
Speaker 2: I've been to Herculaneum, which is the Pompeii, which is
Speaker 2: actually in some ways even cooler than Pompeii, and I've
Speaker 2: been to like I don't know, I've taken a boat
Speaker 2: from where like Sorrento to Capri. You take a little boat.
Speaker 2: It's very lovely. And if a tour guide's worth his salt,
Speaker 2: he'll say, oh, over there, that is Hercules's mountain or
Speaker 2: some like. He'll throw some mythical shit at you, whether
Speaker 2: it's true or not. I mean, I used to be
Speaker 2: in New York City tour guide, so I used to
Speaker 2: make stuff up all the time. But I remember like
Speaker 2: being on the boat and he pointed at some rock
Speaker 2: formation It's like that is Hercules rock, and like it
Speaker 2: sent the chill down my spine. I'm like, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: he that's I took a picture like that rock as
Speaker 2: Hercules is rock like Hercules. Probably I don't even think
Speaker 2: Hercules a real person. But I don't know. I bought it.
Speaker 2: What can I say. I guess I just like this shit.
Speaker 2: I I you know, another rock I saw was Andromeda's Rock,
Speaker 2: which is in the Mediterranean. I remember toard like, that's
Speaker 2: Andromeda's rock. It's supposed to be the rock where Andromeda
Speaker 2: was saved by Perseus and Clash of the Titans when
Speaker 2: they you know, so very exciting. I got all excited
Speaker 2: and it was a rock. It was a rock in
Speaker 2: the middle of the water. It was nice weather. You
Speaker 2: could get a good pomegranate juice nearby. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was certainly pleasant. But I don't know I bought it.
Speaker 2: What can I say.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking back about the two you. You mentioned
Speaker 3: two moments that in the Odyssey that you that were like,
Speaker 3: I'm watching the living Kubrick. Those were your words, that's right,
Speaker 3: And neither of those moments made any impact on me whatsoever.
Speaker 3: There were parts of this movie that I did respond
Speaker 3: to very strongly. I love the ending, which I don't
Speaker 3: know how much we want to spoil, Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: did feel like it built The movie does build up
Speaker 3: a nice bit of closing speed belt that it was
Speaker 3: very powerful the last twenty minutes or so.
Speaker 2: Sure. What I love about the ending is it's Christopher
Speaker 2: Nolan having his revisionist cake and eating it too. There
Speaker 2: is an element that he added to this film of
Speaker 2: making the Odyssey something of an anti war text which
Speaker 2: does not really exist in the in previous iterations of translations.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been reading up about it a lot,
Speaker 2: and if you look at it, most people interpret the
Speaker 2: original Odyssey as the Greek saying war is hell, but
Speaker 2: you gotta do it. It's a man's nature to be
Speaker 2: at war, and it's not fun, but it's necessary. And
Speaker 2: the Odyssey and Oppenheimer are very, very similar movies. The
Speaker 2: premise is you may be brilliant, and you may be
Speaker 2: able to do a thing, either create an Adam Baum
Speaker 2: or figure out the Trojan Horse, but it's going to
Speaker 2: haunt you. And war is not good and use your
Speaker 2: words not your fists. Right, that's not really that's new.
Speaker 2: So what happens is that big conclusion happens in a
Speaker 2: very touching scene with very Catholic elements of like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's confessing to Penelope through a grate and it gets
Speaker 2: it out there and it's like, wow, the Odyssey New
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six is anti war. Wow, that's new. And
Speaker 2: then once that's been established, there's a kick ass fight
Speaker 2: scene that goes on for fifteen minutes and all the
Speaker 2: suitors get slaughtered and they get there's and he's just.
Speaker 3: Born horrible but fighting is awesome.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like, all right, we just satisfied
Speaker 2: all the pacifists in the audience. Now let's go kick
Speaker 2: some ass and be tough guys. And I did find
Speaker 2: that very amusing. I mean, I don't know what that
Speaker 2: says about it that Nolan about life in general, but
Speaker 2: I did recognize the irony in that whole bit.
Speaker 3: I think it speaks to the thing that I do
Speaker 3: like about Nolan, which is that he's both like an
Speaker 3: intellectual and he has all of his movies have fascinating
Speaker 3: themes and bold ideas, and he's always saying something in them,
Speaker 3: but he also loves a good punchy KICKI scene like he.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the man who made three Batman
Speaker 3: movies that were hugely successful on a mass level. They
Speaker 3: weren't you know, you could say, well, in some way
Speaker 3: they were a deconstruction of Batman. I suppose maybe when
Speaker 3: you place them alongside, like Batman and rob and they
Speaker 3: look like a deconstruction, but they're ultimately action movies about
Speaker 3: a guy who dresses like a bat to beat up criminals. Like, yes,
Speaker 3: they were thoughtful movies, but they did not violate the
Speaker 3: rules of a mass entertainment Batman.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. When you watch any of the three
Speaker 2: of his Batman movies, particularly the third one, which is
Speaker 2: the worst one but still very good. You'll be watching
Speaker 2: with that, You'll be watching the Dark Knight Rises, which
Speaker 2: I have done several times, and you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is deep, this is this is you know, intellectual,
Speaker 2: this is thought provoking. And he'd be like, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Why is the guy have that mask on?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Catwoman? Stop being Catwoman?
Speaker 3: Be normal?
Speaker 2: What's the matter with you? It does happen to be that,
Speaker 2: Like there's a great again, there's a little bit of
Speaker 2: this contradiction in his work. It's like, I want to
Speaker 2: be smart, but I got to please the people and
Speaker 2: stick and Hathaway in a very tight Catwoman suit, for
Speaker 2: which I say, gives.
Speaker 3: The people what they want. You know. He's like, he
Speaker 3: seems as you know, and maybe this isn't. I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is Kubrick or not. Just the fact
Speaker 3: that he seems to recognize that at a certain point
Speaker 3: he would not be allowed to make a two hundred
Speaker 3: million dollar Odyssey movie if it didn't in some way
Speaker 3: please the person who just wants to see, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: he wants to see the cyclops, the you know, the whirlpool,
Speaker 3: the you know, crazy action. Like if it's all going
Speaker 3: to be met damon eating lotus flowers and you know,
Speaker 3: paying homage to Memento. That's you know, eventually he's not
Speaker 3: you know, somebody's gonna close off the purse strings.
Speaker 2: That blank check will eventually bounce, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, even Oppenheimer and Opperenheimer is not an action film,
Speaker 2: but there is there's a lot of yelling. It's a biopic.
Speaker 3: It is a very boldly structured one, but it ticks
Speaker 3: just about every box you would want from a biography
Speaker 3: of a great man. It does it in a very
Speaker 3: intelligent way and a formally interesting way, but it still
Speaker 3: works on that basic level.
Speaker 4: Are we saying there's a chance that when we push
Speaker 4: that button we.
Speaker 2: Destroy the world.
Speaker 5: Nothing in our research over three years suppose that conclusion
Speaker 5: except us the most remote possibility.
Speaker 2: How remote chances are near zero, near zero.
Speaker 5: What do you want from hery alone?
Speaker 2: So let's now close the three thousand euro tome that
Speaker 2: is the Odyssey. But we've been talking a lot about
Speaker 2: Christopher Nolan, so let's just again plant a flag here.
Speaker 2: The man has made many feature films, not a million,
Speaker 2: but many. He's our Kubrick Kuber didn't work that much
Speaker 2: that frequently either. But Christopher Nolan has made I'm going
Speaker 2: to tell you how many feature films he's made by
Speaker 2: going and opening this. Uh, he has made one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
Speaker 2: thirteen feature length films. That's if you include following, which
Speaker 2: was only seventy minutes. But I do.
Speaker 3: Why why would you not include it?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because it's not that many people have
Speaker 2: seen it. I'm gonna ask.
Speaker 3: He made it.
Speaker 2: He made it, he made it, he paid for it himself,
Speaker 2: he opened He didn't ask for any money. He said,
Speaker 2: I'm paying for this. It cost him six thousand pounds
Speaker 2: to make it back in nineteen ninety whatever, Matt, let's
Speaker 2: just cut to the chase. What is your favorite? There
Speaker 2: can only be one. What is your favorite Christopher Nolan movie?
Speaker 2: And why?
Speaker 3: Well, for me, I mean there's no I don't even
Speaker 3: have to like. This is not a tough decision. I mean,
Speaker 3: to me, there's an obvious answer. Oh okay again, I
Speaker 3: don't think he's made a bad movie. No, he's made
Speaker 3: good movies and great movies and masterpieces. But my favorite,
Speaker 3: though singular one, the one that I have definitely watched
Speaker 3: the Well, maybe I've seen The Dark Knight more. It's
Speaker 3: not The Dark Knight, it's The Prestige. The Prestige is
Speaker 3: my favorite Christopher Nolan movie by a wide margin. I
Speaker 3: have watched it countless times. I rewatched it last week
Speaker 3: as I was preparing to go see The Odyssey. I
Speaker 3: loved it just as much as I ever have. I
Speaker 3: saw things in it that I had never noticed before.
Speaker 3: That's part of the reason I love watching it is
Speaker 3: that every time I watch it, I see things that
Speaker 3: I have not seen in it before. But yes, I
Speaker 3: find it. It is a movie like to me that
Speaker 3: has like no bottom, it has no there's no end
Speaker 3: to the amount of things you can think about and
Speaker 3: discover in this movie. You know it is. It is
Speaker 3: a movie that it that validates the very thing that
Speaker 3: they say, I think first in the movie and just
Speaker 3: about last, and they say it a million times, which
Speaker 3: is are you watching closely? It asks that question of
Speaker 3: the audience, and then it rewards those who are watching closely.
Speaker 3: It's a you know, it's a movie with a lot
Speaker 3: of twists and turns, and at the end it has
Speaker 3: a surprise. Much like The Odyssey. There are some surprises
Speaker 3: at the very end of the movie that reward you
Speaker 3: for having sat through the whole thing. But it's also
Speaker 3: a movie that when you go back and revisit it
Speaker 3: and you know what's going to happen, it doesn't lose
Speaker 3: anything just because you know some of the secrets that are.
Speaker 2: Going to get it more. It took me until the
Speaker 2: second watch to maybe just because I'm a moron, but
Speaker 2: I didn't quite put together that Nicola Tesla really did
Speaker 2: nothing for Christian Bale, like I still even though I
Speaker 2: Christian Bale sends Hugh Jackman out to Colorado as like
Speaker 2: a get out of my hair, like I fooled you,
Speaker 2: I still thought he had. I didn't know what was
Speaker 2: going on with the Crazy Machine, like I didn't realize
Speaker 2: that I didn't understand. I remember watching it the second
Speaker 2: time and understanding a lot more. Here's something interesting that
Speaker 2: I want to talk about with you, because I too
Speaker 2: watched it again recently because I hadn't seen it in
Speaker 2: a while. And then I opened up my favorite website
Speaker 2: called Wikipedia, and I was reading about the book the
Speaker 2: Book of the the Preceige.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's based on a novel I have not read, but.
Speaker 2: Very different, Like really Nolan took the book and threw
Speaker 2: like just changed changed facts. To his credit, he said,
Speaker 2: I'm taking the essence of this. I like the idea
Speaker 2: of warring magicians in this Victorian setting, and I like
Speaker 2: uh Nicola Tesla, and I like the box thing, but
Speaker 2: took out many characters and also just pretty much changed
Speaker 2: the ending because the way I interpret the ending, and
Speaker 2: I think the way most people interpret the ending is this.
Speaker 2: When I'm assuming people listening to this have seen the movie.
Speaker 2: It came out a long time ago, nearly twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: The spoil when you fall through the trapdoor and Nicola
Speaker 2: Tesla's machine zaps you, it creates a double, and the
Speaker 2: double is a few yards away. But when you fall through,
Speaker 2: if you're Hugh Jackman, who has given up all, has
Speaker 2: put everything into being a showman and all he cares
Speaker 2: about is his craft, you're saying to yourself, I am
Speaker 2: prepared to die right now, and you fall into a
Speaker 2: tank and you drown. That is how most people interpret that.
Speaker 2: In the book, Apparently, when the test machine zaps you,
Speaker 2: it creates a double and puts your consciousness in that double.
Speaker 2: And the first Hugh Jackman just becomes like a like
Speaker 2: a like an empty shell, like a zombie, and that's
Speaker 2: not in the movie, and that that changes everything to me,
Speaker 2: I will say Matt Singer. In the very first Star
Speaker 2: Trek novel called Spock Must Die, written by James Blish,
Speaker 2: it is positive that when you go through the transporter,
Speaker 2: the Prestige Tesla machine from the book is what happens.
Speaker 2: You die, but your clone lives. And this is not
Speaker 2: discussed much in canon the Cave. You really parse some
Speaker 2: of the things Bones has said over the years, you
Speaker 2: might think he believes this. I asked Mikah Kuda about
Speaker 2: this once. MIKEA. Huota is very important guy in Star
Speaker 2: Trek lore, and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't
Speaker 2: really talk about that much. I guess we got to
Speaker 2: go through a transporter first to see but makes sense.
Speaker 2: So there are some strains of Star Trek fandom who
Speaker 2: believe that the Prestige and the Transporter are very very similar.
Speaker 2: I just want to put that out there. Well, how
Speaker 2: do you interpret that ending though of because he says
Speaker 2: Hugh Jackman says, you never know, nobody cares about the
Speaker 2: man in the box. They only care about the man
Speaker 2: they could see and you know, and but it's like
Speaker 2: he's still holding out hope that he is going to live,
Speaker 2: even though the he that is there is going to
Speaker 2: drowned in a minute. And when we see him drowning,
Speaker 2: he's not having a fun time. He's not like it
Speaker 2: is accomplished. For the end of Black Swan, where she's happy,
Speaker 2: it's he's going, get me the hell out of this time.
Speaker 2: I hated here. I'm about the drown It's no fun
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: I just see this all as a movie about art,
Speaker 3: to be like the magic and the sci fi elements
Speaker 3: of it are there as an allegory for being an
Speaker 3: artist and the idea of sacrificing for art and how
Speaker 3: far are you willing to go to become the greatest
Speaker 3: of them all? And I think when you watch Nolan's
Speaker 3: movies and you read about him obsessing over you know,
Speaker 3: seventy millimeter cameras and he's on sixty minutes showing how
Speaker 3: they cut the film and all this, if he doesn't
Speaker 3: necessarily believe these things, he's sure done a great job
Speaker 3: of building this mythology around himself.
Speaker 2: Right, as like the two guys, as.
Speaker 3: Like the two Guys, And so I think every time
Speaker 3: I watch it, I see more about art and filmmaking
Speaker 3: in that movie as this kind of you know, Rosetta
Speaker 3: Stone of his entire career. There's you know a lot
Speaker 3: of themes that pop up in other movies you mentioned,
Speaker 3: like there's doubles, there's duplicates. There are secret identities, which
Speaker 3: is like Batman. It is like the Odyssey. You know,
Speaker 3: Odysseus comes home and puts on a disguise. He wears
Speaker 3: a KP. He wears a practically where's a mask, and
Speaker 3: he has a secret. He has a new name. You know,
Speaker 3: he's Batman basically, or he's an jeer, or he is
Speaker 3: Lord Caldlow. There are dead wives. There are all of
Speaker 3: these elements that you can find throughout Nolan's filmography. But
Speaker 3: the stuff that I continue to find fascinating is just,
Speaker 3: you know, there's these great lines in it that are
Speaker 3: all about magic, but all kind of work as being
Speaker 3: about art and filmmaking. You know, the secret impresses no one.
Speaker 3: The trick you use it for is everything, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's great that Christopher Nolan shoots on film, and it's
Speaker 3: cool to see him cutting physical celluloid. But if the
Speaker 3: movie was a piece of direc nobody would care about
Speaker 3: all of that.
Speaker 2: And there's an I'm not going to say who, but
Speaker 2: there's a very very low budget British filmmaker who makes
Speaker 2: movies on sixteen millimeters that occasionally show at festivals, and
Speaker 2: a lot of people who are just into tech are like, Ah,
Speaker 2: he's the guy who's doing it. He's the guy who's
Speaker 2: doing it. And I seen his movies. They're boring as hell.
Speaker 2: There there's nothing going on there. I've tried. He's made
Speaker 2: three movies. I've seen two of them. Enough with this guy,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who he is later. I don't want
Speaker 2: to Yeah, like.
Speaker 3: Again, like every little thing, like the line he's a
Speaker 3: wonderful magician, he's a dreadful showman. Sounds like a statement
Speaker 3: that could apply to a lot of directors, including the
Speaker 3: one you were just vaguely alluding to. Right, and you
Speaker 3: asked about how I interpret the element of the movie
Speaker 3: involving Hugh Jackman's character. I mean, we haven't even explained
Speaker 3: the plot. I assume most people do know it, but
Speaker 3: it is about Hugh Jackman and Christian bale Is, these
Speaker 3: warring magicians, both trying to outdo one another, and they
Speaker 3: both have versions of a trick that involves transporting, seemingly
Speaker 3: transporting themselves magically from one place to another. I cannot
Speaker 3: claim this next feat as illusion. Watch careful, you'll.
Speaker 4: See no trickery.
Speaker 5: No trickery is employed, merely a technique familiar to certain
Speaker 5: citizens of the Orient and various holy men of the Himalayans.
Speaker 3: It's called in both versions, with various alterations, it's called
Speaker 3: the transported Man. And I think that comes from the book.
Speaker 3: But I also love that because what does every filmmaker
Speaker 3: hope to do when they make a movie. They hope
Speaker 3: to transport people. They hope to take them out of
Speaker 3: their lives and send them back to ancient Greece, or
Speaker 3: to Gotham City, or to the you know, to outer
Speaker 3: space or whatever it is. That's another kind of weird,
Speaker 3: little quiet, little resonance. But the whole aspect of Hugh
Speaker 3: Jackman's trick, the transportation, as you mentioned, as you spoiled.
Speaker 3: It creates a double and one person gets to be
Speaker 3: on you know, in front of the crowd, basking an adoration,
Speaker 3: and one person winds up you know, murdered. But ultimately,
Speaker 3: like originally it's under the stage and not getting to
Speaker 3: you know, like kind of away and.
Speaker 2: Taking it for the team. He's got to take one
Speaker 2: for the team, and not right now.
Speaker 3: And his ego, his eagle, will not allow him to
Speaker 3: be not soaking in the applause. And so that is
Speaker 3: why he creates and creates and ends up doing this
Speaker 3: horrible thing that you were alluding to. But I but
Speaker 3: I mean, directors make beautiful things that delight and astound people,
Speaker 3: and ninety nine point nine percent of the time they're
Speaker 3: not in the room to appreciate that this is art
Speaker 3: that is you know, created to be shown elsewhere. You know,
Speaker 3: they're at the premiere, they're at a screening Gyeah.
Speaker 2: When they're at the premiere, they're also there with the
Speaker 2: studio invites, you know, when you know they go to
Speaker 2: the can Film Festival, everybody's there to give them the
Speaker 2: standing ovation. And then you know they got to go
Speaker 2: to a theater in Idawaho to see how people really respond.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: It is so all of these little things that is
Speaker 3: why I find myself going back and back. And yes,
Speaker 3: it has great performances. It has a beautiful screenplay written
Speaker 3: by brothers, which is an interesting element for a movie
Speaker 3: that has twins and one.
Speaker 2: But let's be honest here, one brother is there, both
Speaker 2: in the same business, and one's doing a lot better
Speaker 2: than the other one. Not that Jonathan Nolan is out
Speaker 2: there chilling for work, but he's he's not Christopher Nolan.
Speaker 2: He's the He's very much the other brother. The Coen
Speaker 2: brothers are equals. The Nolan brothers are not. No disrespect right.
Speaker 3: So again, like I we could do a two hour
Speaker 3: episode just on the Prestige, I would have no I
Speaker 3: could do it right now with no further preparation. But
Speaker 3: that's my that's my pick, Jordan, and I do want
Speaker 3: to say, let me just say, please you have not
Speaker 3: seen or wish to revisit The Prestige streaming right now
Speaker 3: on Hulu and Peacock. So there you go. What about you?
Speaker 3: What's your what's your top? Nolan?
Speaker 2: Humorously enough, last week's episode, we talked about the movie Reducks, Reducks,
Speaker 2: and you mentioned how you hate the trope, which is
Speaker 2: the walk hard trope of like you don't want this,
Speaker 2: you gotta get off this train, you gotta stop, and
Speaker 2: that happens in The Prestige. David Bowie as Nicola Tesla.
Speaker 2: He coool casting. He's not in it that much, but
Speaker 2: when he's on screen he kills it. He tells, Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 3: Your abopessions will destroy you as they have destroyed me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same beat, but it's a little different.
Speaker 2: Like you said last week, I don't mind the beat
Speaker 2: so much. I hate I need a little spin on it,
Speaker 2: and this twenty year old movie has the spin. My
Speaker 2: tragedy about The Prestige is thus but it has a
Speaker 2: happy ending. The Prestige came out in two thousand and six,
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, and I heard it was great, but
Speaker 2: I didn't see it in the theaters for two reasons. One,
Speaker 2: back in two thousand and six, I was not working
Speaker 2: yet in the movie related biz, and every time I
Speaker 2: wanted to see a movie, I had to shell out
Speaker 2: a few bucks, so I was a little more at
Speaker 2: a discretionary about what I saw was not made of money.
Speaker 2: But the real reason I didn't see it was there
Speaker 2: was a movie that not many people remember, that came
Speaker 2: out two months before The Prestige. Do you know which
Speaker 2: movie I'm talking about, either of you.
Speaker 3: I would imagine there's a bunch of movies that came
Speaker 3: out two months Beforetige, but I don't know the specific
Speaker 3: one you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Sam knows everything. He's gonna put it in the chat.
Speaker 2: I could see Sam typing right now. He knows my brain.
Speaker 2: A few months before The Prestige came out, there was
Speaker 2: a movie called The Illusionist and Edward Norton as The Illusionist.
Speaker 2: And it is an okay movie. It is a B
Speaker 2: minus bad. It's not bad. It's a bee to B minus.
Speaker 2: It's a bee it's okay. And it's set. It's not
Speaker 2: set actually in Britain, but it's set. I don't know where.
Speaker 2: It's set, Austria, Hungary. It says here in Vienna, back
Speaker 2: in the day. And it's just like a very similar
Speaker 2: type of movie, just from the poster and the trailer.
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Speaker 7: art still holds sway, I present you a man who
Speaker 7: has unlocked these mysteries.
Speaker 2: So I saw The Illusionist. I shelled out, and then
Speaker 2: everyone's like, you gotta see the Prestige. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: just saw. I just saw a magician movie and it
Speaker 2: wasn't that great. I'm not made of money. Forget the Prestige.
Speaker 2: I'm not interested. And then I never saw it. And
Speaker 2: then and then later after the Batman movies and people
Speaker 2: are talking about Christopher Nolan is the is our living Kubrick.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, really, where where did this guy come?
Speaker 2: Was it Insomnia? Wasn't that? I remember? Memento Momento is cool?
Speaker 2: But you never saw The Prestige. No, I never saw us.
Speaker 2: I had a schlepover to the Blockbuster watch it on VHS,
Speaker 2: so I've never actually seen it in a theater. But
Speaker 2: the happy ending is that it actually is getting a
Speaker 2: re release later this year for the twentieth anniversary. So
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's gonna play every multiplex, but
Speaker 2: I will have the opportunity to go see The Prestige
Speaker 2: in theaters and that will be the happy third act
Speaker 2: for me. My favorite Christopher Nolan movie also is one
Speaker 2: that I really don't don't need to think about too much.
Speaker 2: Prior to this film, I would have said Interstellar, not
Speaker 2: just because I love outer Space. I find the central
Speaker 2: premise touching. I just love the music. I listen to
Speaker 2: that soundtrack all the time. I just I just really
Speaker 2: really really enjoy Interstellar, and I think Inception is cool too,
Speaker 2: and I like the bad like them all, even like
Speaker 2: following it a little. But I like the one with
Speaker 2: al Pacino. It's even not that great, but I like it.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you. I remember where I was when
Speaker 2: I first saw the movie Tenant. I was home because
Speaker 2: it came out during the COVID, remember the COVID, And there.
Speaker 3: Was a thing, yes, I remember the COVID.
Speaker 2: There was a whole thing about should be released in theaters,
Speaker 2: And actually Tenant was released in a few theaters, but
Speaker 2: not in New York City where I was living at
Speaker 2: the time, and some people actually did schlep out to
Speaker 2: Connecticut or wherever to see it. And I was given
Speaker 2: by the studio, much against Christopher Nolan's wishes, by It's
Speaker 2: funny by Warner Brothers. He was a one Brother's man
Speaker 2: until this happened, and now he's a universal man. They
Speaker 2: did let critics watch it on a link, but it
Speaker 2: was a very very short window because of piracy and
Speaker 2: because of Christopher Nolan's dismay about all this. So I
Speaker 2: had the link was good for like twelve hours. You
Speaker 2: could watch Tenant in twelve hours. So I turned it on,
Speaker 2: I hit play. I was transported into a universe I
Speaker 2: did not know existed. It was over. It was late
Speaker 2: at night already, it was now already eleven o'clock, and
Speaker 2: I said this, this link is going to expire. I
Speaker 2: must watch this again right now. And I did, and
Speaker 2: I stayed up till one thirty in the morning. I
Speaker 2: watched Tenant twice in a row, back in front. If
Speaker 2: only I had watched it once backwards and watch forwards.
Speaker 2: I've seen Tenant five or six times. I don't really
Speaker 2: understand it. Every time I watch it, I start to
Speaker 2: think I understand it, and then I go, no, I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm taking it on faith. I think it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Of course, it can't make sense because these things don't exist.
Speaker 2: You cannot make a temporal pincer move because that's not
Speaker 2: a real thing. So it makes as much sense as
Speaker 2: you want it to. But I am just so enthralled
Speaker 2: by it and captivated by it. And even Kenneth Browna
Speaker 2: doing the musketche mouse and squirrel Russian accent works for me.
Speaker 2: I just every molecule this movie brings me joy. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's because I first saw it, not in the theater
Speaker 2: where I should, but it was during these COVID times,
Speaker 2: which were very bleak and this cool thing. I did
Speaker 2: eventually see Tenant in a theater. They did have rereleased
Speaker 2: around Oppenheimer, and I saw that in Imax and it
Speaker 2: was just so good. How would you like to die?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: You've chose their own profession. I have spent time on
Speaker 2: Reddit looking at Tenant threads trying to follow the graph
Speaker 2: of where they're moving. No, I'm I'm not smart enough
Speaker 2: for it. I even saw an interview with Nolan where
Speaker 2: he even confessed sometimes that he gets confused and doesn't
Speaker 2: know what's going on. But it is just so cool.
Speaker 2: The look, the music, the editing, the camera movement did
Speaker 2: the plane smashing into the thing. The guy's running around backwards,
Speaker 2: John David Washington stabbing himself in the arm and then
Speaker 2: healing and then bleeding, and you don't know what the
Speaker 2: hell is going on talking into the thing? Why would
Speaker 2: talking into the thing go backwards? Schmuh. And then they
Speaker 2: understand each other. It's great. Everything about it is great.
Speaker 2: There's no other movie like TenneT. There's so many Kakamaimi
Speaker 2: crazy science fiction movies out there, there's none that's quite
Speaker 2: so crazy but also so big and polished with a
Speaker 2: production design and a budget like this. It's a one
Speaker 2: of one. Nothing else out there is like this, and
Speaker 2: it is my favorite and it will always be my favorite.
Speaker 2: And there's nothing you can do to stop me. That
Speaker 2: is my answer. Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't understand it, but I like it. I
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on, but it's the best of
Speaker 3: he's ever made.
Speaker 2: This is how I feel about a lot of things.
Speaker 2: Sometimes my wife gets upset with me. I go, I
Speaker 2: don't understand you, but I love you. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: just the way it is. That's that's what life is
Speaker 2: all about.
Speaker 3: You have the patients of a saint. I certainly couldn't
Speaker 3: do it. God bless that woman. Uh yeah, my First
Speaker 3: of all, I want to know what I did wrong
Speaker 3: because I did not get a link to tenant. Nobody
Speaker 3: gave me a screening link to watch at home during
Speaker 3: the COVID. I did the thing during the COVID that
Speaker 3: a lot of people did. Yeah, well, I rented. I
Speaker 3: did the whole thing where you could rent a theater.
Speaker 3: Do you remember? Do you remember that that became a
Speaker 3: thing they like, They made them relatively inexpensive, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I went actually went with my brother in law.
Speaker 3: We hadn't been to the movies in a very long
Speaker 3: time and he wanted to go too, So the two
Speaker 3: of us went to a theater in Connecticut. I was
Speaker 3: we were hanging out with my in laws at the time,
Speaker 3: and I rented out this multiplex and the you know,
Speaker 3: the whole punchline is, this is the first time I've
Speaker 3: been in a movie theater and what was it like
Speaker 3: six months at that point something.
Speaker 2: Like that, which the guys like us is a long
Speaker 2: time to some people, right.
Speaker 3: I know, to most people that's that's normal, but to us,
Speaker 3: that's like, you know, yeah, that's a that's a drought
Speaker 3: of all droughts. And uh. The whole idea was, oh,
Speaker 3: there's the there's the COVID. You don't want to be
Speaker 3: in an enclosed this the movie theater is the worst
Speaker 3: place you could be, right, yeah, okay, but we'll rent
Speaker 3: a private screening room and it'll be private and you
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about that. Fantastic, I'm doing it.
Speaker 3: I gotta see Tenant. And we show up to the
Speaker 3: movie theater and we have our tickets and we go
Speaker 3: to our private theater and we walk inside and the
Speaker 3: movie hasn't started yet, but there's two people inside who
Speaker 3: are furiously making out, not just in there, like just
Speaker 3: going at it. The opposite of the germ free surgical
Speaker 3: operating room like environment you want in the age of
Speaker 3: the COVID. Yeah, where are people making out? To the
Speaker 3: tenant pre show and a random cinema in Connecticut?
Speaker 2: How did they sneak into your theater? That was the
Speaker 2: Singer Theater and they snuck in?
Speaker 3: We had to like go out find a person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and be like, excuse me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, we're wearing masks all of this stuff. Excuse me,
Speaker 3: there are people brutally making out. They're round and third right, yes,
Speaker 3: they're they're they're engaging in a temporal pincer movement.
Speaker 2: So how what it had they kicked.
Speaker 3: Them out or eventually Yeah, we found someone, they went in,
Speaker 3: they politely asked them to depart. They left, and then
Speaker 3: we went in and we sat in the theater and
Speaker 3: I held my breath for two hours, Right, and I
Speaker 3: were very nervous.
Speaker 2: You're like, geez, this is supposed to be a clean.
Speaker 3: Room, and right, that was already ruined immediately. It didn't
Speaker 3: matter what happened after that. But in terms of the movie, uh,
Speaker 3: like all of Christopher Nolan movie movies, it is beautiful,
Speaker 3: It is interesting, It has provocative ideas, It has a
Speaker 3: great cast, it has great performances. But I think, even
Speaker 3: as I said, uh last week on the show, the
Speaker 3: more I watch it, and I have watched it a
Speaker 3: few times now, the less I understand it. It is
Speaker 3: the only movie I think where like trying to get
Speaker 3: deeper into it and to put it together only makes
Speaker 3: it more confusing.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's why it's perfect.
Speaker 3: And that's why you love it.
Speaker 2: All I have for you is a word tenant. All right, Well,
Speaker 2: you know we're we're we're we're running late. It's a
Speaker 2: long episode already, but let's just very quickly do a
Speaker 2: res egg for uh, the.
Speaker 3: Oddop, the one love so much that you can't recall
Speaker 3: the name of it, the honesty.
Speaker 2: Do you Matt Singer want to tell people what the
Speaker 2: name of this segment is called? I know you like
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's the recommendation segment. I mean it's also known as.
Speaker 8: Works not to be confused with buzzuga.
Speaker 2: Now, but let's do a lightning round re seg because
Speaker 2: we got to get to the game. It's a good
Speaker 2: game this week. What is she? Would you like to
Speaker 2: resegg first or shall I?
Speaker 3: I can go first, I can do it first.
Speaker 2: Let's look at it.
Speaker 3: I this is I will confess something here that I
Speaker 3: probably should have mentioned during our discussion of the Odyssey,
Speaker 3: as it might be a mitigating factor for my opinion.
Speaker 3: I think swords and sandals movies are generally not interesting.
Speaker 4: I think they're I think.
Speaker 3: They're kind of boring. I associate them with all of
Speaker 3: the most boring classes I had to take in college.
Speaker 3: It's not a genre that I love.
Speaker 2: I like I like an airplane. I like movies about gladiators,
Speaker 2: like in Rocky Horror. I like to see a good
Speaker 2: Steve Reeves movie. I'm a big fan of the peplam genre.
Speaker 2: Continue continue.
Speaker 3: So it's not I'm not an expert in it, but
Speaker 3: I thought I would use this as an excuse to
Speaker 3: watch some stuff that I hadn't seen. The Odyssey, which
Speaker 3: I did like, did make me think, well, maybe i'm
Speaker 3: you know, maybe I need to give this other shot.
Speaker 3: I watched Troy, which we already mentioned. I didn't like it,
Speaker 3: thought it stunk just bad. It made me appreciate the
Speaker 3: Odyssey even more, and I was somebody told me, oh,
Speaker 3: you got to watch the director's cut. It's four hours
Speaker 3: long and it's a lot better. I ain't watching a
Speaker 3: movie that's twice as long as the crummy version. No,
Speaker 3: thank you, I'm going to pass on that for now.
Speaker 3: So instead I was thinking about what I could recommend possibly,
Speaker 3: or what I could see, and it gave me the
Speaker 3: opportunity to scratch a cinematic witch I have never scratched. Oh,
Speaker 3: which is that? I? As I'm sure Jordan and Sam
Speaker 3: and longtime readers and listeners of mine will no, am
Speaker 3: a obsessive and fascinated by the films of one Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Speaker 3: And Arnold Schwarzenegger's obsession with movie and bodybuilding can be
Speaker 3: both traced back to the exact same thing, a series
Speaker 3: of Italian Hercules movies starring bodybuilder Reg Park. He saw
Speaker 3: these movies as a teenager in Austria and he was
Speaker 3: mesmerized by them. Now mostly he was mesmerized by Reg
Speaker 3: Park's physique. But nonetheless, I've never seen any Reg Park
Speaker 3: Hercules movies, and I decided I would watch I would
Speaker 3: watch one and try to understand what it was that
Speaker 3: so inspired the last action Hero of my own youth,
Speaker 3: and on YouTube I found Hercules in the Haunted World
Speaker 3: from nineteen sixty one, which to my surprise was directed
Speaker 3: by Mario Bava. Is the second film ever made by
Speaker 3: Mario Baba after Black Sunday, and honestly I really liked it.
Speaker 3: It was full of surprises. It is a bit schlocky
Speaker 3: at times. The version I watched was dubbed and it
Speaker 3: it is not the most beautiful print in the world,
Speaker 3: but it does have a kind of This movie has
Speaker 3: a kind of oddball, artificial sort of beauty. In terms
Speaker 3: of its depiction of ancient Greece. It might not be
Speaker 3: possible to make one that's more different than Christopher Nolan's
Speaker 3: The Odyssey. It is like a fever dream of ancient
Speaker 3: Greece that's also Italy, And it kind of looks at
Speaker 3: times like the nineteen sixties Batman TV show with all
Speaker 3: the colored gels and lights and like kind of psychedelic atmosphere.
Speaker 3: I've never seen anything quite like it, but it is
Speaker 3: a little like The Odyssey. Hercules redch Park. He returns
Speaker 3: home from a long journey to the woman he loves. Later,
Speaker 3: to save that woman, he ventures into Hades, although again
Speaker 3: it's a very different look to Hades in this film.
Speaker 3: He has to locate this object that will cure her
Speaker 3: of this mythological sickness. But there's all kinds of practical effects.
Speaker 3: There are monsters, some of them very striking looking, not
Speaker 3: as impressive, not as realistic as The Odyssey, but a
Speaker 3: kind of nightmarish in a fun way. It I feel
Speaker 3: like I kind of mentioned this movie or quote it
Speaker 3: reference it way too much on this podcast. But it
Speaker 3: struck me as the sort of movie because Christopher Lee
Speaker 3: is the villain of the film. Yeah, it struck me
Speaker 3: of like a kind of movie that Leonardo DiCaprio's character
Speaker 3: from Once upon a Time in Hollywood might have made.
Speaker 3: You know, at this time he could have played that
Speaker 3: character or Hercules' sidekick if his career got really bad.
Speaker 3: Because boy does Christopher Lee look not happy to be
Speaker 3: in this movie.
Speaker 2: He is bummed out.
Speaker 3: He just looks very sad.
Speaker 5: The voces of evil dominated this land before the Father
Speaker 5: of Eurites defeated them and banished them forever to the
Speaker 5: Kingdom of the Dead, and there cryst will hang over
Speaker 5: us and over all this land until such time as
Speaker 5: the last descendant of him who banished them shall be destroyed.
Speaker 2: But surely there must be some way to combat them.
Speaker 3: As for the Arnold connection, Yeah, Reg Park, I don't
Speaker 3: know that he's the best actor I ever saw. He's
Speaker 3: not that great as a presence, but boy does he
Speaker 3: have a great physique. I'll give him that. He does
Speaker 3: look like I.
Speaker 2: Can do him one beta. I will also be funny.
Speaker 3: That's right. He does look like he could have been
Speaker 3: the model for the Hercules that shows up in Marvel
Speaker 3: comics as a member of the Avengers. I mean, he
Speaker 3: just looks like a Greek demi god.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at Reg Parks. He only made five
Speaker 2: movies between the years of sixty one and sixty five.
Speaker 2: Four of them are Hercules movies. One of them is
Speaker 2: a Machista film and Machiste Machista Matchista in the House pronounced.
Speaker 2: That's another character that actually Steve Reeves did a lot
Speaker 2: of his. I've seen some Steve Reeves.
Speaker 3: He is another very famous Hercules. Yeah, but Arnold was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he liked those two. But Reg Park,
Speaker 3: that's the guy. If you read his memoir, which I
Speaker 3: have read that's the guy. He talks about Reg Park
Speaker 3: and inspired by his pictorial muscles phenomenon, and maybe for him,
Speaker 3: maybe that's all it was. But honestly, I liked the
Speaker 3: movie for the bavaiss, for the atmosphere, for the direction,
Speaker 3: the sets, the costumes, kind of practical but kind of
Speaker 3: plastic monsters.
Speaker 2: I had had a little bit had a little bit
Speaker 2: of money behind it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it has a lot of money,
Speaker 3: but it has a little bit of artistic flair. So
Speaker 3: Hercules in the Haunted World available on YouTube. It wasn't
Speaker 3: streaming anywhere else, but the full movie was on YouTube.
Speaker 3: That's your what's your rec seg recommendation for the odds.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna let the I'm gonna let the readers
Speaker 2: know that that is the second of the five Reg
Speaker 2: Park films.
Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't seen the others. You don't need to
Speaker 3: see anything else, I promise you.
Speaker 2: Okay. So I was thinking, like you, I would do
Speaker 2: something similar and try to find something in the same vein.
Speaker 2: And it took me three tries. And I wasn't gonna
Speaker 2: watch two thousand and one at Space Odyssey. I wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna watch o Brother or art Thou. There also is
Speaker 2: a movie called Ulysses Gaze, which I maybe saw one
Speaker 2: hundred years ago, that is loosely based on the Odyssey
Speaker 2: with Harvey Kaitel. But I remember that being a little dull,
Speaker 2: and I wasn't in the mood. So the first thing
Speaker 2: I did was I found there is a movie called
Speaker 2: Helen of Troy, and Helen of Troy is from the year.
Speaker 2: It's from the fifties, and it's kind of like a
Speaker 2: mishmash of all these you know, it's a little bit
Speaker 2: of the of the Iliad and a little bit of
Speaker 2: the Odyssey, and it's got all these characters, and it
Speaker 2: was directed by Robert Wise, So I was like, this
Speaker 2: is gonna be good. Right. It's directed by Robert Wise,
Speaker 2: who of course made you know. I mean he made
Speaker 2: the Sound of Music, right, I mean that was That's
Speaker 2: a biggie, and he made He was an editor on
Speaker 2: Citizen Kane.
Speaker 3: He made, by any chance, did he direct a Star
Speaker 3: Trek Motion.
Speaker 2: Major directed Star Trek Star trekst One the motion picture
Speaker 2: he did do that, which I think is a very
Speaker 2: good movie. And he also did The Andromeda Strain, which
Speaker 2: I love. I love the Andromeda Strain. So here's the parts.
Speaker 2: Hell if Troy kind of blows, it's really boring. I
Speaker 2: liked the look of it, but it was not that good,
Speaker 2: so I went back to the well and then I
Speaker 2: found something very arty from the year nineteen eighty nine
Speaker 2: called Nostos the Return. And what I loved about this
Speaker 2: is that it is in a made up language. There
Speaker 2: is not a lot of dialogue in it, but when
Speaker 2: they do speak, it's just gobbledy cook with no subtitles.
Speaker 2: So I like that it was meant to be agient
Speaker 2: Greek that you're not supposed to understand. It is a
Speaker 2: very already naturalistic depiction of Odysseus's journey that is probably
Speaker 2: beautiful to see. It's kind of like a very art film,
Speaker 2: great to see in a theater. A lot of sweeping
Speaker 2: shots of Greek islands and whatnot and caves, but not
Speaker 2: a lot of action. It's a very short movie, and
Speaker 2: I liked it, but it's really not what I was
Speaker 2: looking for. So then I found it, like Goldilocks. I
Speaker 2: found it on the third try. There is a movie
Speaker 2: from nineteen fifty four called Ulysses, and Ulysses, of course,
Speaker 2: is the Latin version of Odysseus the Latin name, and
Speaker 2: it is an Italian production, but an Italian Hollywood production.
Speaker 2: So it's an Italian director by the name of Mario
Speaker 2: Camerini Mario Bava, by the way, you mentioned him earlier.
Speaker 2: He was involved in the production in some he did
Speaker 2: some of the special effects. But it stars Kirk Douglas
Speaker 2: as Odysseus slash Ulysses and Anthony Quinn as Antinous, who
Speaker 2: is the Robert Pattinson character. And it's swashbuckling. It's pretty
Speaker 2: damn good.
Speaker 6: Marvel and the tremendous spectacle of the proaching more Ulysses
Speaker 6: and his warriors bringing from the mammoth wooden horse to
Speaker 6: overwhelm the walls of Troy. See Ulysses live his fantastic
Speaker 6: adventures again film where they actually happened five thousand years ago,
Speaker 6: The thousand and one Krills of Ulysses, the greatest of
Speaker 6: all adventurers.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of commonalities with the Odyssey the New
Speaker 2: One in terms of what they cover. I mean, the
Speaker 2: Cyclopsis cage, you know, Penelope at the loom, Telemachus being
Speaker 2: a whiny little boy. It's all in there. But there's
Speaker 2: also a lot of stuff that's in this movie that's
Speaker 2: not in Nolan's version. Like there's a whole chapter in
Speaker 2: the book about adventures on an Island with Nausica, and
Speaker 2: Nausica is not in the Nolan version at all. And
Speaker 2: Nasica is a big character in this and she's wearing
Speaker 2: a very beautiful dress and whatnot. It's very alluring, So
Speaker 2: I would say more so than Helen of Troy, which
Speaker 2: does the movie version Helen of Troy by Robert Wise,
Speaker 2: which does have the Trojan horse in it pretty prominently,
Speaker 2: and that's a pretty cool scene. This has the Trojan
Speaker 2: horse in it for just a moment or two. But
Speaker 2: I gotta say I kind of dug this Italian ulysses.
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's got the big poppy colors as
Speaker 2: with the Hercules film. I guess that was how they
Speaker 2: did it in Italy back then. And you know, because
Speaker 2: Nolan's version is a little washed out at times. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of whites and grays and tans and whatnot,
Speaker 2: and this has got poppy color. But what's funny is
Speaker 2: that because it was an Italian film of the era,
Speaker 2: the actors just spoke the language that they spoke in
Speaker 2: real life, and they dubbed it all after and that's
Speaker 2: how it was done back then. There were two streamable
Speaker 2: versions of this Ulysses that I found, and the first
Speaker 2: one was on Tube, which we love, right. We talked
Speaker 2: about two be a couple weeks ago. And it was
Speaker 2: all in Italian with subtitles including Kirk Douglas speaking Italian,
Speaker 2: and it was a very washed out, bleached out VHS
Speaker 2: and I said, ah, this kind of looks not so hot.
Speaker 2: Let me see. It was also on Pluto TV. Let
Speaker 2: me see what Pluto's version looked like. Udo's version was
Speaker 2: also all Italian with subtitles, but the print was pristine.
Speaker 2: So I would say, go to that one. I don't
Speaker 2: know where the English dub is. I couldn't find it
Speaker 2: for free anyhow. But Pluto, man did they slam dunk
Speaker 2: on Tube with their with their Ulysses. Hats off to Tubby,
Speaker 2: but I will hats off to Pluto. But Pluto has
Speaker 2: more ads than Tube. I was getting pummeled by ads,
Speaker 2: it was. It was more than so there's no there's
Speaker 2: no winning. You're gonna lose either way. But anyway, that's
Speaker 2: that's my pick for like a good kind of you know,
Speaker 2: Ray Harry Housen was not involved, but it had that
Speaker 2: Ray Harry Housen feel that clashed the Titans feel. You know,
Speaker 2: some of these right wing bozos that wanted a more
Speaker 2: quote unquote traditional Odyssey. You know, maybe they would want
Speaker 2: this because it's pure Hollywood schlock although Italian, but pure
Speaker 2: nineteen fifties shlock of just like you know, all the
Speaker 2: girls are got there, they're all you know, Oh it's
Speaker 2: a man. A man watches up on shore. They're all giggly,
Speaker 2: and the men are all a lot of wrestling too.
Speaker 2: There's a scene where Ulysses and the man. It's slocky,
Speaker 2: good fun. I liked it a lot, but it is
Speaker 2: not an intellectual pursuit in the into the degree that
Speaker 2: that the Odyssey was one funny thing was because it's Italian,
Speaker 2: I guess. And the movie is called Ulysses, which has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with James Joyce obviously, but it used
Speaker 2: all the Latin versions of things. So they didn't talk
Speaker 2: about it this he's to talk about Ulysses. They didn't
Speaker 2: talk about Poseidon, they talked about Neptune. But when it
Speaker 2: came to Zeus and Zeus's law, they stuck with Zeus.
Speaker 2: They didn't change him to Jupiter or Jove, which I
Speaker 2: thought was very funny. I was I wish I could
Speaker 2: ask nobody from that made this movie is still with us,
Speaker 2: I'm sure, but I'm like, what's what was the thinking there?
Speaker 2: Why did you Latin all the Greeks except for Zeus
Speaker 2: just because Zeus is a cool sounding word more than Jupiter.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but anyway, that's what's going on on
Speaker 2: Pluto TV right now.
Speaker 5: Give me back my men, goddess, demon wish or what
Speaker 5: whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's recap here our rex Egg. I guess
Speaker 3: we should acknowledge that we did also talk about our
Speaker 3: favorite Nolan movies. The Prestige was on was on Peacock,
Speaker 3: and it was also on Hulu. That was my favorite.
Speaker 3: Jordan's was Tenant, which is not streaming anywhere right now,
Speaker 3: which is kind of bizarre, but you can rent it
Speaker 3: for three bucks. You can rent it for three or
Speaker 3: four bucks in a variety of places. And then, in
Speaker 3: terms of our recommendations for the Odyssey supplemental viewing, I
Speaker 3: recommended Hercules in the Haunted World. I found it on YouTube,
Speaker 3: but it's also available on Prime, Video Plex and Canopy,
Speaker 3: and then Jordan went through a whole potpourrie of these
Speaker 3: ancient Greek epics Helen of Troy, which he said stunk
Speaker 3: on cood. Nostos the Return was on vod was kind
Speaker 3: of interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are numerous prints of Nostos the Return on YouTube,
Speaker 2: and I clicked on one. It was kind of shoddy.
Speaker 2: I tried a second one and it was much cleaner,
Speaker 2: and I think people might find that intriguing. It's also
Speaker 2: okay short, it's true.
Speaker 3: And then ulysses the Kirk Douglas movie. You said the
Speaker 3: best version you found was on Pluto, but also it
Speaker 3: was on tub and it's also on vod. And if
Speaker 3: people want to find out more about all of the
Speaker 3: recommendations on this and every episode of SVU, we always
Speaker 3: recommend go to letterboxed look for the list called now
Speaker 3: Streaming on bazooga, the made up streaming service that we
Speaker 3: coined on our first episode. We have a running list
Speaker 3: that's curated and updated by the great Sam van Halgrin
Speaker 3: of all the movies that we've recommended on the show.
Speaker 3: If you click the read notes option, you can also
Speaker 3: read what we said about all of them. Sam puts
Speaker 3: in all of the pluses and minuses we say about
Speaker 3: the movies, and I'll also tell you where we found them.
Speaker 3: And we didn't do a personalized recommend recommendation this week.
Speaker 3: We're trying to make a shorter episode. Ha, good luck
Speaker 3: with that, but uh, we're gonna get back to that
Speaker 3: on our next episode. If you want us to recommend
Speaker 3: a title for you and you alone, you can send
Speaker 3: us a note feedback at filmspotingsvu dot com. We will
Speaker 3: we will give you a recommended something or other that
Speaker 3: watch on streaming if you tell us what kind of
Speaker 3: movie you're looking for and what kind of streaming services
Speaker 3: you use.
Speaker 9: Zouga when you gotta stream Buzzooga, it's cream of the crop.
Speaker 9: It's right at the top of your favorite streamings.
Speaker 3: All right, it's time for our weekly game here on
Speaker 3: Film Spotting SVU. And after the drubbing three weeks in
Speaker 3: a row, and I gave Jordan the former games mass
Speaker 3: I know you cannot be defeated. Now he's on a
Speaker 3: losing streak. He's like, I don't want to play anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm hosting this week, so Jordan, you're in charge. What
Speaker 3: is our game this week?
Speaker 2: The game this week is called because it is Odyssey week.
Speaker 2: It's called My Big Fat Greek Film Spotting Game, My
Speaker 2: Big Bets Film Spotting Game. And what it is. It's
Speaker 2: not that dissimilar from a game that I concocted several
Speaker 2: weeks ago related to the West Wing because we had
Speaker 2: a movie with Alison Janney. The uh, I am going
Speaker 2: to give clues to the name of a film that
Speaker 2: has an actor or actress in the Odyssey in it.
Speaker 2: The first person to get it based on the clues
Speaker 2: will go at and you will have an opportunity to
Speaker 2: win two points. You got to say the name of
Speaker 2: the movie, and you got to say the performer and
Speaker 2: who it is that you gotta say the performer that's
Speaker 2: in the eye. So like, okay, if you fit you're
Speaker 2: at the movie, but don't know who's in the Odyssey,
Speaker 2: you'll only get one point and the other person gets
Speaker 2: a chance to steal Okay, right.
Speaker 3: Okay, So these are all movies starring people who are
Speaker 3: also in the Odyssey.
Speaker 2: Correct, correct, So I'm gonna start name If.
Speaker 3: I you say, and you said, if we know the
Speaker 3: movie but not the actor, then we can answer for
Speaker 3: one point, but the other person can get the other
Speaker 3: point if they know the person.
Speaker 2: Right, If you say, oh, I know that movie, it's
Speaker 2: the Wizard of Us, but you've Jim Katta.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you don't know the actor. Then I'm like,
Speaker 3: that was Kurt Thomas, you moron.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So there are going to be ten
Speaker 2: of these, so there is the potential for somebody to
Speaker 2: win twenty to zero, or you could each time.
Speaker 4: Okay, that might just happen.
Speaker 2: Here we go. We're starting first on. It's all on
Speaker 2: the my big fat Greek film Spotting SVU game.
Speaker 3: It's a good name.
Speaker 2: Number one, clue number one. This movie made nine hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars at the global box office.
Speaker 3: It's not Jim Kata.
Speaker 2: I'm moving on clue to. This movie is fourth in
Speaker 2: a series of eight. Really, I thought that would have
Speaker 2: done it. Okay, this movie.
Speaker 4: I'll throw it in there. I'll just say Avengers Endgames.
Speaker 3: Who's there's only four Avengers? Oh?
Speaker 4: I know what it is now? Shoot? Yeah, I was
Speaker 4: just thinking of.
Speaker 3: How many clues are there here? Jordan, we got more?
Speaker 3: We okay, keep going, keep them going, because I don't
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: This movie co stars Shirley Henderson. This movie co stars
Speaker 2: Timothy Spall.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, okay, so it's the fourth one. Well, what's
Speaker 3: that one called. It's Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.
Speaker 2: Correct, Matt Singer gets one point.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, Rich, of the million people in that movie
Speaker 3: is one of the million people in uh in this one?
Speaker 2: Gee, that's the obvious person.
Speaker 3: I'm so obvious. I'm sure that everyone in the listener.
Speaker 3: I have not rewatched this movie.
Speaker 2: Now went to three, and then Sam could still can
Speaker 2: steal I can, I'll steal it?
Speaker 3: Whow I'll let I can, I'll let I can look
Speaker 3: at it, Sam, I don't know. I could guess, but
Speaker 3: you just go ahead.
Speaker 4: It's Pattinson.
Speaker 3: Oh, of course he plays what's his name, cric degree.
Speaker 3: That's right. I was not thinking of him, so I
Speaker 3: wouldn't have gotten it.
Speaker 10: That's oh, there you go, all right, Robins, Pattinson's off
Speaker 10: the board, or there might be.
Speaker 2: I have yet to determine. I have yet to reveal
Speaker 2: whether or not there can be repeats. Okay, we don't know.
Speaker 2: But Pattinson was the answer to number one. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: all right, number two. This movie is distributed by twentieth
Speaker 2: cent entry.
Speaker 3: Fox, who would possibly get it based on that.
Speaker 2: That's that that that really is. Just to let you
Speaker 2: know that this is X amount of years old because
Speaker 2: it's not brand new. The twentieth century Fox doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: It's got to be at least six years old.
Speaker 2: Thank you that now, now you get where I'm going.
Speaker 2: This movie is a streaming by twentieth century Fox. This
Speaker 2: movie has a worldwide gross of four hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: two million dollars. This movie had its debut on The
Speaker 2: Queen Mary two. This movie has music written by Bene
Speaker 2: Pasic and Justin Paul.
Speaker 4: I think I greatest showhow.
Speaker 3: The greatest zenda That doesn't make it?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't know that.
Speaker 3: More importantly, why would you use that as a clue
Speaker 3: if it makes no sense?
Speaker 2: It's just kind of interesting.
Speaker 4: I don't know them, Palace Production, I don't.
Speaker 2: I found it was intriguing that they were watching Hugh
Speaker 2: Jackman ride an elephant on the Queen Mary too. I
Speaker 2: thought that was kind of cool. Sam with the lead
Speaker 2: three to one, Let's move on to clue number three.
Speaker 2: This movie co stars Chuck Zito. This movie co stars
Speaker 2: Adrian Pasdar. This movie co stars Vigo Mortensen. All Right,
Speaker 2: this movie was written by David Kepp. What You're gonna
Speaker 2: know it? SAMs almost got it? All right, He's gonna
Speaker 2: get it on this one. This movie includes a sequence
Speaker 2: that was shot on location at Grand Central Terminal in
Speaker 2: New York City.
Speaker 3: The one that I'm thinking of, I don't think Figo
Speaker 3: was in.
Speaker 2: Ego was not fall Time.
Speaker 3: Oh he was not famous at the time. Oh no, okay,
Speaker 3: then it's definitely not the one I'm thinking of.
Speaker 2: Do you need one more? You're gonna get it on
Speaker 2: this one. This movie was directed by Brian de Palma.
Speaker 3: Who what Brian DePalma movie has? Chuck Zito?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Is it Bonfire the Vanities?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Destroyed Matt. This movie has a sequence shot at Grand
Speaker 2: Central Terminal in New York City.
Speaker 3: I mean, is it not the Is it the Untouchables?
Speaker 2: No, Chicago both get a zero? You both get a zero.
Speaker 2: The movie is Carlito's Way.
Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't seen Carlito's Way in a long time.
Speaker 2: Good, It's so good. The last fifteen minutes is al
Speaker 2: Pacino running around like a crazy person in Grand Central
Speaker 2: and then he dies at the end. Spoiler and you
Speaker 2: know who shoots him, Benny Blanco from The Bronx played
Speaker 2: by John Leguizama.
Speaker 4: Yes, you're right.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I thought that you guys get the point,
Speaker 2: gets the points. No one gets the points. All right, we're.
Speaker 4: Moving always wins. Sorry, we're moving on.
Speaker 2: Staying at three nothing you both fail at Carlito's Away
Speaker 2: a Great Movie movie number four. This movie debuted at
Speaker 2: the south By Southwest Film Festival. Clue number two. This
Speaker 2: movie has co stars including Tim Highdecker Clue number three.
Speaker 2: The last scene in the movie features the song Les
Speaker 2: Fleurs by Minnie Ripperton.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get is this is this? Us?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 10: Okay from the movie Us is Ispita?
Speaker 2: Good job Sam is killing Matt with five to one?
Speaker 2: You got us on the mini Ripperton. Q. I like that.
Speaker 2: That's impressive.
Speaker 10: It wasn't that, it was it was putting together the
Speaker 10: I was. I was thinking because it was get Out
Speaker 10: that debuted at Sundance, right, but it was yes, So
Speaker 10: I was thinking of like the festival art for a
Speaker 10: big movie.
Speaker 4: Okay, hideker, I remembered, Yeah, anyway, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh that's right, all right, we're moving on. We're
Speaker 2: moving on now. This is actually one of these facts.
Speaker 2: I did not know about this movie. This movie has
Speaker 2: original music by Marvin Hamlish, who I quite frankly thought
Speaker 2: was dead by the time this movie came out, So
Speaker 2: this might be his last name.
Speaker 4: Here's a clue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a clue. This movie co stars Melanie Lynsky.
Speaker 4: Oh, I like made leon It's kay. Yeah, she good.
Speaker 2: This movie co stars Scott Bakula, also known as Captain
Speaker 2: Jonathan Archer of the Enterpris.
Speaker 4: I think I got it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, do it the informant? Yes, yes, Stephen Soderberg the
Speaker 10: informant exclamation point, right.
Speaker 2: That's right. That was my That was my next clue.
Speaker 2: This movie has has has punctuation in the title.
Speaker 4: Who dat. It's a great movie. It's very good.
Speaker 10: It's Soderbergh's last good movie.
Speaker 3: Ropping bombs.
Speaker 2: I would have to consult the stats.
Speaker 3: Sam just broke Zeus's law.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, all right, Matt, you gotta start catching up.
Speaker 3: This is this is not I am not good at
Speaker 3: like you know. These two random character actors appeared in
Speaker 3: a film that premiered eight years ago at a film First,
Speaker 3: If you tell me the name of the movie, I
Speaker 3: could tell you who's in it.
Speaker 10: But I remember I remember thinking, like, what is Bacula
Speaker 10: doing in this movie?
Speaker 3: I would not have remembered that. You have not seen
Speaker 3: it since it came out.
Speaker 2: I liked it.
Speaker 10: But it makes sense that Sodaberg would go to Hamlets.
Speaker 10: She'd want like this paranoid thriller's seventies kind of.
Speaker 2: It's a good movie. Exclamation mark. I like it a lot.
Speaker 2: We're moving on next. This movie debut at the New
Speaker 2: York Film Festival PLU too. This movie has cinematography by
Speaker 2: the great Darius Kanji who number three. One of the
Speaker 2: many producers slash executive producer of this film is Brad
Speaker 2: Pitt hmmm, who number four. This movie is based in
Speaker 2: a book by David gran.
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh, oh oh.
Speaker 2: We're both making the I know it face. I'm watching
Speaker 2: your face.
Speaker 3: What was thatta movie?
Speaker 2: This movie has co stars including Sianna Miller.
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh uh oh wait there could be more
Speaker 3: than one, couldn't there.
Speaker 2: This movie has co stars including Robert Pattinson. Ironically enough, yes, oh,
Speaker 2: what is the name of it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Do it? It's the Lost City of z That's right,
Speaker 3: that's right, say it.
Speaker 2: British though the Lost City of zed Matt's back Lost
Speaker 2: City of z Okay from the Lost City of z
Speaker 2: is in the Odyssey.
Speaker 3: Oh, Tom Holland.
Speaker 2: Is very good. I didn't know that until I started
Speaker 2: putting this game together. I didn't know Tom Holland at
Speaker 2: the time. I guess he plays probably the Sun.
Speaker 3: He plays, he plays, But who is?
Speaker 4: Why am I blanking on who?
Speaker 10: Because Pattinson's like the helper, He's like he's a second banana.
Speaker 2: Charlie Hunhum. Charlie Hunhum is the least.
Speaker 10: So I was never going to come up with hun Hum.
Speaker 10: So Collin plays Hunham's son young or see the young
Speaker 10: version of Hunhum. Maybe because they're like the dad goes
Speaker 10: on the Anyway, I read the book, I didn't.
Speaker 4: See the movie. I couldn't believe.
Speaker 2: Oh the movie is great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's the Sun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the Telemachus. For sure. We're moving on and
Speaker 2: it's it's five seven to three.
Speaker 3: It's not I mean, I'm not gonna win, but at
Speaker 3: least at least I made it a little more interesting.
Speaker 2: Next. This movie was written and directed by Woody Allen,
Speaker 2: which there's a lot of people in the Odyssey who
Speaker 2: are in a Woody Allen movie, so that doesn't nail
Speaker 2: it down too much. Woody Allen's character in the film
Speaker 2: is named C. W. Briggs.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know which, but okay, well which I think
Speaker 3: I know what movie that was?
Speaker 2: But this movie was set in the nineteen forties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know the movie. It's the Curse of the
Speaker 3: Jade Scorpion, right, correct? But which from this movie? But
Speaker 3: from the Odyssey was in it? Who was was Charlie's
Speaker 3: in that movie?
Speaker 4: She was?
Speaker 2: Is that your final answer?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you're nodding, so I guess it is Charlie's.
Speaker 2: Now, Charlee's was into Woody Allen movies. She was in
Speaker 2: Celebrity and she was in The Curse the Jade Scorpion.
Speaker 2: I believe that The Curse of the Jade Scorpion is probably
Speaker 2: Woody Allen's worst film. It's it's it's.
Speaker 3: Not very unwatchable.
Speaker 2: Well, there's some funny that I did watch on YouTube.
Speaker 2: There is a pretty funny scene between he and Charlie's.
Speaker 2: She's playing sexy Veronica Lake. She's in high heels powering
Speaker 2: over him and he's like, excuse me, maybe we could
Speaker 2: you know he's doing that shtick. It's it's pretty, it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Not so's it's bad. It's pretty bad. But anyway, Charlie's
Speaker 2: is in it. Matt, suddenly you're it's seven to five.
Speaker 3: At least it's a game.
Speaker 4: Questions are.
Speaker 2: More? Next up? Next up? This movie is in black
Speaker 2: and White. M This movie is based on a true story.
Speaker 2: This movie was released by the Weinstein Company. Okay, Max,
Speaker 2: the Weinstein Company. This movie is based on the story
Speaker 2: of a rock musician.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, not what I was thinking of?
Speaker 2: Black and white?
Speaker 3: Black and white?
Speaker 4: This one sounds gonna get I'm just trying to come
Speaker 4: up with the name of it. I think I got
Speaker 4: it it control.
Speaker 2: Control, Lost Control? Who is?
Speaker 3: But I don't know who was in that?
Speaker 4: Me neither?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: Who didn't we touch yet? In that?
Speaker 3: Haven't we mentioned in Control?
Speaker 2: She's lost control? Three two one?
Speaker 4: Idea mat incorrect?
Speaker 2: Matt, try to steal it.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who we haven't mentioned? That seems
Speaker 3: the most likely. Mia Goth was a good guest. What
Speaker 3: about Logan Marshall Green? Was he in Control?
Speaker 2: Incorrect? The answer is Samantha Morton. She actually played the
Speaker 2: main character. The main character is he in Curtis, But
Speaker 2: it's all from her point of view of the movies,
Speaker 2: based on her on her memoir of her dead husband. So,
Speaker 2: uh yeah, Samantha Morton.
Speaker 4: So can I tell you Logan Marshall Green, my roommate
Speaker 4: during a college program I did at the National Theater
Speaker 4: Institute at the Eugene Oial.
Speaker 3: Theater, constantly confuse him with Tom Holland.
Speaker 10: When you were his roommate, I could tell you that
Speaker 10: the fact that he became a movie actor, a very
Speaker 10: a handsome movie actor, did not surprise me.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 4: The chrismo was there from the beginning.
Speaker 2: He had it, uh Samantha Morton. Of course, also in
Speaker 2: woodyowm movie, she was in Sweet and Lowdown terrific in that. Okay,
Speaker 2: Next up, We've got two more. It's still a game.
Speaker 2: It's still a game here. Next up Clue number one.
Speaker 2: This movie is set in Germany. Clue number two. This
Speaker 2: movie has original music by Tom York, not Radiohead, but
Speaker 2: Tom York. Number three. This movie is a remake. Not
Speaker 2: yet Okay. This movie has co stars that include Chloe
Speaker 2: Grace Moretz. Not yet this movie has co stars that
Speaker 2: include Dakota Johnson. Remake Germany Tom York one more. This
Speaker 2: movie has co stars that include till the Swinton. Oh,
Speaker 2: the big blank, the big blank on this remake Germany?
Speaker 4: Is this Suspiria?
Speaker 2: Is that Your answer is Suspiria? Is your answer? Still?
Speaker 2: You are correct? This is the Suspiria? Very good? Who
Speaker 2: in Suspiria is in the Odyssey? I?
Speaker 4: Who haven't we mentioned.
Speaker 2: There is Suspiria set? I think logically here what? Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're all at a what type of place?
Speaker 4: Like a like the dance studio thing? But yeah, a
Speaker 4: lot of with the witch, the witches and the dancing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dancing, the young girl and who would have
Speaker 2: been very young when this came out, Chloe Grace Moretz,
Speaker 2: isn't it Matt You got to steal it? In three
Speaker 2: two one? Give me a name? The answer is me
Speaker 2: a goth.
Speaker 4: You said her last God be a go I'd crossed
Speaker 4: her off my list.
Speaker 2: Of course I didn't know she was in either. She
Speaker 2: had yet to really make it. She's one of the
Speaker 2: girls in the dance academy. All right, last one, last one,
Speaker 2: and this.
Speaker 3: Is tough, but this is the last question.
Speaker 2: This is the last one.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: I cannot wink, but you can for Pride You Might
Speaker 2: number one. This movie debut at the Venice Film Festival.
Speaker 2: Number two. The director of this movie is Hungarian number three.
Speaker 2: The co stars include Sarah Snook number four. This movie
Speaker 2: includes a twenty four minute uninterrupted take next clue. That
Speaker 2: take is twenty four minutes and very difficult to watch
Speaker 2: as it involves a great deal of pained howling. The
Speaker 2: lead actress of this film was nominated for an Academy
Speaker 2: Award for the role in this film. Huh That lead
Speaker 2: actress's name is Vanessa Kirby. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, don't
Speaker 2: you remember she made him?
Speaker 4: I remember this movie.
Speaker 10: I just I don't think I'm I don't think I'm
Speaker 10: going to come up with the title. I do know
Speaker 10: what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: I still blanking on what.
Speaker 2: This movie also co stars Shia Labouf.
Speaker 3: I've never that that trend. That wouldn't help me at all.
Speaker 2: I'm out of clues now. So the movie is called
Speaker 2: Pieces of a Woman. Okay, remember, and she has she
Speaker 2: has a miscarriage.
Speaker 4: I remember, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And so she's in the movie. So that was the
Speaker 2: movie she got nominee for an Oscar.
Speaker 10: I thought that and somebody else that was in The
Speaker 10: Odyssey is also can.
Speaker 2: You I'm gonna let you try to steal the first
Speaker 2: person who can throw out a name at me, someone
Speaker 2: who's not Shia Laboof or Vanessakrby.
Speaker 3: Haven't we mentioned all right, you got three. There's no way.
Speaker 3: Anne Hathaway is not in it.
Speaker 2: No, it's not in Hathaway. Sam, you could steal it.
Speaker 4: Bill Irwin showed up.
Speaker 2: Benny safty I did not know that he was in it,
Speaker 2: but he is. And the movie I did watch, and
Speaker 2: it's upsetting.
Speaker 3: And I never saw this movie. You would.
Speaker 2: It's She's She deserved her Academy Award nomination for playing
Speaker 2: a difficult role. But the movie is not that great
Speaker 2: in total. And Benny Saftie's in it, and of course
Speaker 2: he plays King Agamemnon, the Darth Vader of Accrease in
Speaker 2: the Odyssey. The winner of the game is Sam by
Speaker 2: a wide origin.
Speaker 3: Well done, Sam, nine to five.
Speaker 4: You'd beat eleven when the synapses are firing.
Speaker 3: This was not my area of expertise.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, next time we'll do it differently. So
Speaker 2: there you go. Sam's the winner. And now it's time
Speaker 2: on the show to wrap things up by mentioning what's
Speaker 2: coming new to streaming? Hey, Matt, you want to tell
Speaker 2: the listeners what's coming new?
Speaker 3: For some theatrical releases that are now available to rent
Speaker 3: or buy, we have the new Demon Slayer movie, the
Speaker 3: anime film which made one hundred and thirty six million
Speaker 3: dollars globally in theaters. It's available on vod and on
Speaker 3: crunchy roll. And then we also have Leviticus. Did you
Speaker 3: see this one? Jordan? And I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I saw the trailer and I know what it is,
Speaker 2: but I didn't see it.
Speaker 3: Two teenage boys must escape a violent entity that takes
Speaker 3: the form of the person they desire most each other.
Speaker 3: Haven't seen it, haven't heard a lot about it.
Speaker 2: It came out like right in between Obsession and back Rooms,
Speaker 2: and it did not achieve the financial success of either
Speaker 2: of those two films, obviously, but I do know that
Speaker 2: it exists.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, all of these those titles are available the
Speaker 3: day this show is live, which is Tuesday, July twenty eighth.
Speaker 3: Also available. These are theatrical releases that are now on streaming,
Speaker 3: and I have seen most of these. First up, the
Speaker 3: big budget live action reboot of Masters of the Universe,
Speaker 3: which is going to be on thank You, which is
Speaker 3: going to be on Prime Video. I didn't think this
Speaker 3: was It was a stinker. I didn't think that was
Speaker 3: very good made. The movie almost made. Honestly, this movie
Speaker 3: that made me a little angry. I felt slightly insulted
Speaker 3: by this movie.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I didn't go. I wanted to go.
Speaker 2: I didn't make it. And the next thing you know,
Speaker 2: it had already been out two or three weeks, and
Speaker 2: everybody said, don't bother. I think even you said don't
Speaker 2: bother watch it.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you asked me, I would have said
Speaker 3: don't bother because I didn't like it. Some people liked it.
Speaker 3: I was a little baffled by that. But yes, you
Speaker 3: can watch it on Prime Video. If you already have
Speaker 3: Prime you it won't cost you anything except your time.
Speaker 3: Also on streaming, a theatrical release of the spring Mortal
Speaker 3: Kombat two streaming on HBO Max. Did you see Mortal
Speaker 3: Kombat too.
Speaker 2: Jordan, I don't think I did. No, I don't like this.
Speaker 3: I didn't like this.
Speaker 2: I saw a recent what's the other Mortal? I saw
Speaker 2: the Mortal Kombat right before this one, which was a
Speaker 2: Netflix debut. I think it was.
Speaker 3: It was on HBO Max also, was that what it was?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Well, yes, not my thing, Okay, I didn't see it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I would pass on that one as well. But here's
Speaker 3: one that I did enjoy, The Devil Wears Prada too.
Speaker 3: She's gonna be streaming on Hulu. This is I thought
Speaker 3: about as good as any sequel to this movie could
Speaker 3: have possibly been. I it greatly exceeded my expectations. It
Speaker 3: was funny, it was about something, it was about the media,
Speaker 3: it was about the internet. It's about the death of
Speaker 3: the media, and also a romantic comedy and also lots
Speaker 3: of great costumes and fashion, and also Meryl Streep is
Speaker 3: really great in it. I liked it. Did you see
Speaker 3: the Devil Wears product too? No?
Speaker 2: I saw the first one though, all right, let's move
Speaker 2: on then.
Speaker 3: And finally, Jody Foster in a French language film, This
Speaker 3: one I have not seen. Oh a Private Life.
Speaker 2: Great movie, great, great, yeah, very good, very really well.
Speaker 2: This was how We're Downbrated to very good, it's damn good.
Speaker 2: And this one to damn good but not great. Written
Speaker 2: and directed by Rebecca Zlatowski who makes nothing but bangers.
Speaker 2: She makes these movies that not a lot of people see,
Speaker 2: and they're all really really good. And this one's coming
Speaker 2: directly to Netflix. And one of her earlier films, which
Speaker 2: is called an Easy Girl on Field Facille off Fansel,
Speaker 2: is also on Netflix. She made a movie called Other
Speaker 2: People's Children, which is phenomenal. She made a really good
Speaker 2: movie called Planetarium with one Natalie Portman, and another really
Speaker 2: good movie called Grand Central. I was maybe like fifteen
Speaker 2: years ago, or so I am a Stan, I Am
Speaker 2: a Rebecca is Latowski Stan, and I a Private Life House.
Speaker 3: It's going to be streaming on Netflix. All those titles
Speaker 3: are gonna be available on Friday the twenty ninth. And
Speaker 3: in terms of things going to direct to streaming, we
Speaker 3: don't got nothing. We got nothing. There's nothing really of
Speaker 3: note to discuss.
Speaker 2: It's a short, it's a it's a mellow week, which
Speaker 2: is good because next week we're taking the week off
Speaker 2: right because.
Speaker 3: We're going on summer vacation for one week. And go
Speaker 3: back and re listen to an old episode you might
Speaker 3: have missed. Go listen into the origin of Bazooga, find
Speaker 3: out how it started. Find out how Screaming rex Egg started.
Speaker 3: If you're a late comer. It's the cream, So go
Speaker 3: back and check an old episode. We'll be back in
Speaker 3: two weeks. We're discussing. It's not definite, but we were
Speaker 3: thinking because in two weeks there is a there is
Speaker 3: a notable title to discuss on Netflix, Louis Letterier, who
Speaker 3: I think Jordan may know as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's the what's the.
Speaker 3: He's got a film called The Last House with Grete
Speaker 3: Lee and Wagner Mora.
Speaker 2: What are the codes of if we If if this
Speaker 2: were podcasts being distributed by The New York Times, I
Speaker 2: would not be allowed to review it because I'm friendly
Speaker 2: with Louis Lataria.
Speaker 3: There's a conflict of interest.
Speaker 2: To conflict of interest, but I think maybe we can just.
Speaker 3: If you acknowledge it.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody gives. It's not like I have
Speaker 2: hot dogs with him every week. I just know I
Speaker 2: went to college them, so we're old pals, all right,
Speaker 2: and we keep in touch a little bit. And I've
Speaker 2: seen it already. It's good. I think it's I think
Speaker 2: it's good, so hopefully you'll like it too. There, I
Speaker 2: just spoiled my conflict of interest. I just if I
Speaker 2: hated it. I would we wouldn't be doing it, let's
Speaker 2: put it that way. But luckily I liked it. So
Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about it.
Speaker 3: We're thinking about that. That's a possibility. That is streaming
Speaker 3: on Netflix on August seventh, so we'll see in two
Speaker 3: weeks if it's that or maybe we'll be doing something
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Speaker 3: You can also listen to is there a new episode
Speaker 3: of the star Log podcast next week?
Speaker 2: There's always a new episode of the Starlog podcast. We
Speaker 2: got some good people lined up for that guest wise,
Speaker 2: so listen to the star Log Podcast where you can.
Speaker 2: I should also point out that, of course this episode
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Speaker 3: I like when they remind you that you said reducks
Speaker 3: reducts wrong.
Speaker 2: That's the most emails they got, the most emails about that.
Speaker 2: I pronounced it redo instead of reducks. And I'll never ever.
Speaker 3: Live it and you'll never live it down. All right, Well,
Speaker 3: I'm Matt Singer and I'm Jordan Hoffmann. Thanks for listening.