WEBVTT - Odyssey Fever! | SVU

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<v Speaker 2>A man comes up with an ingenious solution to end

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<v Speaker 2>a stalemate of a war that's been raging for a decade,

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<v Speaker 2>and it works, But will he spend the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>his life regretting it? It's The Odyssey and it isn't

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<v Speaker 2>streaming anywhere, but it may just be the year's best

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<v Speaker 2>movie so far. I'm Jordan Hoffman.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm that singer. With more movies, more series, more

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<v Speaker 3>stuff going straight to streaming than ever before, it felt

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<v Speaker 3>like the right time for podcast it keeps track of

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<v Speaker 3>it all, and that podcast is usually Film Spotting SVU.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're talking about a new movie this week. We

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<v Speaker 3>violate singers law.

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<v Speaker 2>We are being hubristic toward the gods. We're chopping off

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<v Speaker 2>Athena's head right here and do it.

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<v Speaker 3>We are not gonna talk about a streaming movie for

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<v Speaker 3>one week. Jordan Hoffman cannot not talk about the Odyssey,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're indulging him by talking about Christopher Nolan's Odyssey. Plus,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna give you some Odyssey related streaming recommendations that

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<v Speaker 3>you can watch at home. We will run down the

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<v Speaker 3>week's new streaming titles and we will play a game.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is all coming up on Film Spotting SVU.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Film Spotting SVU. I'm Jordan Hoffman and Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Singer. Is this a very special episode of SVU?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we sluing it up in a special way? I

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<v Speaker 2>think we are. We're ignoring the prime director and we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a film that is not stream it will

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<v Speaker 2>stream eventually, which which of the services? I guess. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess Peacock.

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<v Speaker 3>Peak Peacock would be the obvious choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's a union in the US. Is being distributed

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<v Speaker 2>by Universal Pictures. It'll go to Peacock, but you can

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<v Speaker 2>also you know, I think Amazon for three bucks, and

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<v Speaker 2>people are gonna want to do that because the Odyssey

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<v Speaker 2>it's all anybody's talking about. Even my parents, who never

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<v Speaker 2>go to the movies, are thinking about going, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>very concerned.

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<v Speaker 3>They have never seen it, but they're thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, They're like, maybe we should go see the Odyssey,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's three hours eugh, because I'm like, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>it flies by, and I say, it's only three hours

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<v Speaker 2>to you, it's twenty years to Odysseus. I mean, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>they're thinking about it is shouting, so listen. The Odyssey

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<v Speaker 2>is a big ass movie. I mean, Christopher Nolan coming

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<v Speaker 2>off of his a billion dollar box office hit and

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<v Speaker 2>oscar Win Oppenheimer, could he up it. He went in.

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<v Speaker 2>He put in all all his chips on The Odyssey,

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<v Speaker 2>a movie that, by the way, he kind of has

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<v Speaker 2>always wanted to make because originally he was tapped to

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<v Speaker 2>do Troy, which was I guess now how long ago

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<v Speaker 2>was Troy.

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<v Speaker 3>That was almost twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>He was originally in talks, but A Wolfgang Peterson was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do it. Then Peterson stepped out pre Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan was going to do it, and he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do what he did here with the Trojan Horse. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not do the typical trojan horse we've seen on wheels,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. You know where people are drowning, They're

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<v Speaker 2>in there for days, shitting all over each other and

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<v Speaker 2>being miserable, and then Peterson's like, hey, guess what, I

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<v Speaker 2>can make Troy again, and they're like, Chris Nolan, take

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy horse and get the hell out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>And he went and made something else instead. It all

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<v Speaker 2>kind of worked out in the long run. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big movie, and you know, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit I don't want to give this too much oxygen,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was a lot of pre feedback, mostly for

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<v Speaker 2>dumb reasons. A lot of these bozos. It's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>they they're the origin of these right wing bozos online

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<v Speaker 2>kind of had their roots in Batman, which is where

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan made his bone, so to speak. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these bozos were very upset about the movie that they

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen yet, and it turns out that they were

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<v Speaker 2>wrong about what they thought was absolutely gonna happen in

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<v Speaker 2>the movie, and they were like, we're boycotting it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna bomb, and it did not bomb. It's doing quite well.

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<v Speaker 2>And the jokes on them. But more importantly, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, if you ignore that side of the

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote online discourse about the Odyssey, you just ignore

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<v Speaker 2>all the sort of the racist stuff and the anti

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<v Speaker 2>trance stuff and all the nonsense. Most of the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>has actually been pretty good. Like people are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>excited about a book they were assigned to read in

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<v Speaker 2>ninth grade, and if there are anything like me, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't actually read. They just kind of paid attention in

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<v Speaker 2>class to do well on the test. And sales of

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<v Speaker 2>The Odyssey and the Iliad on on tracking like Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>forty percent up when people buy in the Odyssey. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>admit that includes myself. I went and bought the Emily

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson translation, which now sits on a shelf and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably never actually open, but now I have it. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try to read it before the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. So it's kind of cool. America has

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<v Speaker 2>Odyssey fever. The Globe has Odyssey fever, and it's thanks

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<v Speaker 2>to a really cool movie shot in the very difficult way. Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>did you see did you see the sixty minutes episode

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<v Speaker 2>with Christopher Nolan's showing off how they handcut the seventy

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<v Speaker 2>millimeter negative and the way they do the old fashioned

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<v Speaker 2>color timing without computers. It's kind of like a home

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a it's a modern movie. Modern circa fifty

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. It's a very homespun crafty thing that's out

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<v Speaker 2>there right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not see that, but I'm sure that sounds interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah, but yeah, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A good movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad. I'm glad. You're you're this hype hyped for it.

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<v Speaker 2>You do not have Odyssey fever.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked it, and now life goes on. I will,

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<v Speaker 3>I will, I will endure. I have not bought a

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<v Speaker 3>copy of the Odyssey. I will not be rereading the

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<v Speaker 3>Odyssey read Why why would anyone want to reread it?

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<v Speaker 3>After watching I feel like a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 3>going to buy that book and it's gonna sit on

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<v Speaker 3>that shelf and they're gonna read like one page. They're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna see out dense and Greek. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a lot of stuff that's not in the

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<v Speaker 2>movie that's in the tail, you know. And the movie

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<v Speaker 2>itself also is is a hodgepodge of It's mostly the Odyssey,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the Iliad, and even a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>the a Nid, which wasn't even written by Homer. It

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<v Speaker 2>was written by some other guy named a lawsuit. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a lawsuit right there. There's gonna be a so there's

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<v Speaker 2>a nice hodgepodge there. And I don't know, well, I,

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<v Speaker 2>despite your lack of enthusiasm, I have Odyssey fever.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't stop talking about cyclopses and lotus eaters and bad

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<v Speaker 2>weather on the g and C. Lack of GPS is

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<v Speaker 2>a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I'm still trying to get to the root of

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<v Speaker 3>what it is about this movie. Obviously it is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>very handsomely made, beautifully crafted. It does have spectacular images,

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<v Speaker 3>and the cast is really good. But we do see

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<v Speaker 3>movies that maybe are not quite to this level of craft.

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<v Speaker 3>But we see a lot of great movies every year,

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<v Speaker 3>and not all of them inspire you, Jordan Hoffman, to

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<v Speaker 3>be messaging me at all hours and making memes and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>And I asked you this question last time, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to the episode and I don't feel I

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<v Speaker 3>got a satisfying answer. I just like want to I

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<v Speaker 3>really want to know what is it that you love

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<v Speaker 3>about this movie? Forget about okay, well I didn't like

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<v Speaker 3>this book in English?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it about this version that you are so captivated?

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to give you an answer and I

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<v Speaker 2>will say that when Oppenheimer came out, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit obsessed with that too, But I and I

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<v Speaker 2>did read that book. I read that book before the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>the specific Oppenheimer biography that's very, very lengthy, and that

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<v Speaker 2>did kind of get me primed for why I felt

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<v Speaker 2>that it was just such a very important story and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever represented to modern living. I think what I like

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<v Speaker 2>about this so much is that it is like the

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<v Speaker 2>er text of like all fantasy and all science fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, maybe there is something older

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<v Speaker 2>in non Western traditions. Maybe there's a text, an ancient

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese text or something that's older. It's possible, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean from you know, I grew up in the USA,

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<v Speaker 2>so where the Western CIV classes are what we took,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, this is kind of where, not where

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<v Speaker 2>history starts, but like crazy ass stories about exciting worlds,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I love Star Trek and every week

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<v Speaker 2>they go to a different planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Play the red alert sound here, Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>Every week they go to a different island, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the island of the giants, or the island of the

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<v Speaker 2>woman who makes you stew that turns you into a pig,

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<v Speaker 2>or the my favorite island that Charlie's the on will

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<v Speaker 2>feed you flowers island and wearing a fishing net or

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<v Speaker 2>I think what it is is like as someone with

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<v Speaker 2>a streak of like, I like, I like completionism. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>giving you a little window into my neurosis.

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<v Speaker 3>I like what I on the couch tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>I like completionism, and I like like knowing something top

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<v Speaker 2>to bottom, which is why when I, when I at

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<v Speaker 2>age fourteen, said I am going to get into Star Trek.

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<v Speaker 3>I have played the red alert sound here again plays Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>I have read every Star Trek comic. I've read a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the Star Trek books. I know Star Trek

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<v Speaker 2>in and out, and so I feel like I've conquered

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<v Speaker 2>Star Trek a little bit. So with this, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>Christopher Nolan, who's been making really cool movies, very inventive movies,

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<v Speaker 2>Inception Interstellar, very creative. It's like he realized it all starts,

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<v Speaker 2>that it's all starts. We all got to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to one. Where did this all start. It all started

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<v Speaker 2>with the Odyssey. I'm gonna put my premature on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make it my way. It has his formalist tricks,

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<v Speaker 2>the way he uses editing, the way he uses music,

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<v Speaker 2>the way he cuts on the timeline, the way he

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<v Speaker 2>uses a big imax camera, which you'll notice even if

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<v Speaker 2>you see it in non imax, as I did, it

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<v Speaker 2>still looks big somehow, the close ups and whatnot. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like he's he's a guy who's saying

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to go back to the beginning and

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<v Speaker 2>and understand everything about fantasy and sci fi and do

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<v Speaker 2>it my way, and this is kind of where it

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<v Speaker 2>all starts. So I think that that scratches an itch

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<v Speaker 2>for me of like understanding things from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a better that's a better answer. Now I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I've gained a little bit more of a window.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if you even quite realize what

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<v Speaker 3>you just said. You also just kind of compared yourself

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<v Speaker 3>to him. You just said that you felt like he

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<v Speaker 3>is going back to the beginning and trying to be

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<v Speaker 3>completion as much as you are. So you're saying essentially

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<v Speaker 3>that you like this one in because you're you're people

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<v Speaker 3>kinship with him.

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<v Speaker 2>People confuse me and Christopher Nolan and all I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I am a tall, blonde British man with

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<v Speaker 2>a scarf in eighty degree weather. I always drink a

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<v Speaker 2>cup of tea. Have you met mister Nolan ever? Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever been like at a thing where.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I hosted the New York Film Critics Circle

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<v Speaker 3>Awards where he was given uh An Award. So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think we other than exchanging maybe a word of congratulations,

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't really meet, you didn't. But I have been

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<v Speaker 3>in his presence. He's a very handsome man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've I've been, not to brag, but I've been

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<v Speaker 2>I think one, one, two, three occasions kind of been

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<v Speaker 2>at a thing where it's like, Hoffman, you're up, go

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<v Speaker 2>talk to this man. And I've been alone with him

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<v Speaker 2>for a few minutes. And one time he truly was

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<v Speaker 2>just drinking English breakfast tea in a little cup. It

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<v Speaker 2>was wonderful. And he always wore a scarf. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a very relatable dude. I mean, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people who were very very successful. That's their thing. They

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<v Speaker 2>make everybody feel at ease, you know. Yes, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine, very good friend of mine. He

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<v Speaker 2>used to work at Paramount for a long time in

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<v Speaker 2>the marketing department, and he they would periodically get the

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Cruise visit to pump him up before it was

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<v Speaker 2>time to start releasing that first trailer to whatever Mission

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<v Speaker 2>Impossible movie, And he said he joked, he and his

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<v Speaker 2>friend's joked is like, oh, here comes Tom Cruise to

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<v Speaker 2>give us all the pep rally and like, no kidding,

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<v Speaker 2>all irony just dropped when he left the building, like

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<v Speaker 2>they were ready to climb a mountain. They were ready,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I will do anything for that man. I could

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<v Speaker 2>rip apart a bear. He has given me so much

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<v Speaker 2>adrenaline right now. Because they're saying about certain people that

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<v Speaker 2>they really just inspire something, and I think that Nolan

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the very different from Tom Cruise. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>he's not jumping out of airplanes, but he's just an

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<v Speaker 2>inspiring dude. So I don't know. I guess that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I have a little bit of a crush

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<v Speaker 2>on the guy. What can I say?

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<v Speaker 3>That's all right, A lot of people do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>That's part of the reason I'm asking is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I admire his work. I've enjoyed a lot of his movies.

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<v Speaker 3>I've loved a lot a few of his movies, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just people revere him in a way that that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't quite you know, like I just I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I wish. I wish I felt as passionately about all

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<v Speaker 3>of his movies the way that you feel about The

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<v Speaker 3>Odyssey and that a lot of people feel about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess I love that we have a big

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<v Speaker 3>hit movie in theaters right now that was shot, as

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<v Speaker 3>you said, shot on big film cameras, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>being sold as a theatrical experience, and that yes, it

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<v Speaker 3>has a ton of movie stars. It has almost every

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<v Speaker 3>movie star on the planet in it. But it's also okay, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it is the original IP as you said,

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<v Speaker 3>but this is not a superhero Well it is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a superhero movie, but it is, but that it

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<v Speaker 3>is a it is literally good old fashioned storytelling, and

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<v Speaker 3>I love all of that about it. But I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's not that much better that people

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<v Speaker 3>should only get excited for Christopher Nolan movies. I wish

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<v Speaker 3>people got this excited for the five other masterpieces we

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<v Speaker 3>get every single year, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what are masterpieces of this level? Of this level

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<v Speaker 2>are also like action adventure, there are great movies you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after Sun is a great movie that touched me and

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<v Speaker 2>moved me emotionally. But that's about a little girl crying

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<v Speaker 2>on her vacation because her dad's a mess. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>about it's not about giants.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Odyssey is about an older woman crying because

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<v Speaker 3>her husband is a mess. I mean there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Whirlpools and giants and things like that. It's got that action.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't let me ease you this way, Matt saying

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<v Speaker 2>you are not alone. I know a few other people

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<v Speaker 2>that are in your camp that are like B plus

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<v Speaker 2>B plus. You know my friend Mike Miller Entertainment Weekly.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the the Nolan, the nuanced no old man. For

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<v Speaker 2>years we had this argument after Oppenheiri came out. He

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<v Speaker 2>was just like B plus And there are other people too.

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<v Speaker 2>But for me, I will say there were moments when

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<v Speaker 2>I watched The Odyssey when and this is gonna sound

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<v Speaker 2>obnoxious and make make me sound like the film broweus

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<v Speaker 2>of film bros. But there were two moments where I

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<v Speaker 2>was like this, this is the living Kubrick. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he is as good as we're gonna get. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the moment when they were running away from the giants,

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<v Speaker 2>and just the way that was put together and just

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<v Speaker 2>the the you know, the the mix, the way was edited,

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<v Speaker 2>and the just the look of fear on their faces.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the final uh see final shipwreck when Heimis

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<v Speaker 2>Patel is lost to Poside, you know, the wingman, the

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<v Speaker 2>riker to uh to Odysseus's card is lost and when

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<v Speaker 2>that moment. And I've seen a million shipwrecks and movies before,

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<v Speaker 2>and this wasn't even like a particularly like on the page.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like and then there was a shipwreck, but

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<v Speaker 2>the way it was put together, the look on the

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<v Speaker 2>face of them, I was just like levitating from from

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<v Speaker 2>my seat. I don't know, It's just what can I say?

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<v Speaker 2>It was? It was it was my reaction, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad I had it. If you're stuck in B plus Phil,

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<v Speaker 2>I you know that's I can't. I can't rescue you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're eating lotuses with Charley, it's their own on

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<v Speaker 2>B plus Island.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have to I'm trying to remember why I

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<v Speaker 3>love you, mean four sped lotus flower.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to throw yourself, take the leap of faith

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and get off of B plus Island. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know I'd be curious to know from the listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm imagining that most listeners have seen it by now.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I nuts? Am I blowing smoke? Am I? Am

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<v Speaker 2>I eating the cool drinking the Lotus kool aid here,

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<v Speaker 2>or a little a little bit of reservation? Let us

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<v Speaker 2>know it. Feedback at film Spotting svu dot com and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll maybe we'll read some Odyssey related related letters on

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<v Speaker 2>the party.

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<v Speaker 3>Just not gonna let this movie go. We're gonna extend

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<v Speaker 3>it as long as we can, even though it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a streaming movie. We're gonna doys. We'll do a revisit, right,

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<v Speaker 3>we will travel. We're gonna have a We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>to Greece and visit the famous sites of the Odyssey.

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<v Speaker 3>There's money in the budget for that, Sam right to

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<v Speaker 3>take a like to go of the oysse.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been to Greece, but I have been to

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<v Speaker 2>Italy and twice I've been to spots that are like

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<v Speaker 2>at least in the ancient world. I've been to Pompeii.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to Herculaneum, which is the Pompeii, which is

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<v Speaker 2>actually in some ways even cooler than Pompeii, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been to like I don't know, I've taken a boat

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<v Speaker 2>from where like Sorrento to Capri. You take a little boat.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very lovely. And if a tour guide's worth his salt,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll say, oh, over there, that is Hercules's mountain or

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<v Speaker 2>some like. He'll throw some mythical shit at you, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's true or not. I mean, I used to be

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City tour guide, so I used to

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<v Speaker 2>make stuff up all the time. But I remember like

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<v Speaker 2>being on the boat and he pointed at some rock

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<v Speaker 2>formation It's like that is Hercules rock, and like it

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<v Speaker 2>sent the chill down my spine. I'm like, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>he that's I took a picture like that rock as

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<v Speaker 2>Hercules is rock like Hercules. Probably I don't even think

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<v Speaker 2>Hercules a real person. But I don't know. I bought it.

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<v Speaker 2>What can I say. I guess I just like this shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I I you know, another rock I saw was Andromeda's Rock,

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<v Speaker 2>which is in the Mediterranean. I remember toard like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>Andromeda's rock. It's supposed to be the rock where Andromeda

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<v Speaker 2>was saved by Perseus and Clash of the Titans when

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<v Speaker 2>they you know, so very exciting. I got all excited

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a rock. It was a rock in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the water. It was nice weather. You

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<v Speaker 2>could get a good pomegranate juice nearby. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was certainly pleasant. But I don't know I bought it.

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<v Speaker 2>What can I say.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just thinking back about the two you. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>two moments that in the Odyssey that you that were like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm watching the living Kubrick. Those were your words, that's right,

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<v Speaker 3>And neither of those moments made any impact on me whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>There were parts of this movie that I did respond

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<v Speaker 3>to very strongly. I love the ending, which I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how much we want to spoil, Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 3>did feel like it built The movie does build up

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<v Speaker 3>a nice bit of closing speed belt that it was

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<v Speaker 3>very powerful the last twenty minutes or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. What I love about the ending is it's Christopher

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan having his revisionist cake and eating it too. There

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<v Speaker 2>is an element that he added to this film of

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<v Speaker 2>making the Odyssey something of an anti war text which

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<v Speaker 2>does not really exist in the in previous iterations of translations.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've been reading up about it a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you look at it, most people interpret the

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<v Speaker 2>original Odyssey as the Greek saying war is hell, but

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta do it. It's a man's nature to be

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<v Speaker 2>at war, and it's not fun, but it's necessary. And

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<v Speaker 2>the Odyssey and Oppenheimer are very, very similar movies. The

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<v Speaker 2>premise is you may be brilliant, and you may be

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<v Speaker 2>able to do a thing, either create an Adam Baum

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<v Speaker 2>or figure out the Trojan Horse, but it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>haunt you. And war is not good and use your

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<v Speaker 2>words not your fists. Right, that's not really that's new.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happens is that big conclusion happens in a

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<v Speaker 2>very touching scene with very Catholic elements of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's confessing to Penelope through a grate and it gets

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<v Speaker 2>it out there and it's like, wow, the Odyssey New

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six is anti war. Wow, that's new. And

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<v Speaker 2>then once that's been established, there's a kick ass fight

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<v Speaker 2>scene that goes on for fifteen minutes and all the

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<v Speaker 2>suitors get slaughtered and they get there's and he's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Born horrible but fighting is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of like, all right, we just satisfied

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<v Speaker 2>all the pacifists in the audience. Now let's go kick

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<v Speaker 2>some ass and be tough guys. And I did find

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<v Speaker 2>that very amusing. I mean, I don't know what that

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<v Speaker 2>says about it that Nolan about life in general, but

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<v Speaker 2>I did recognize the irony in that whole bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it speaks to the thing that I do

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<v Speaker 3>like about Nolan, which is that he's both like an

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<v Speaker 3>intellectual and he has all of his movies have fascinating

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<v Speaker 3>themes and bold ideas, and he's always saying something in them,

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<v Speaker 3>but he also loves a good punchy KICKI scene like he.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is the man who made three Batman

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<v Speaker 3>movies that were hugely successful on a mass level. They

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<v Speaker 3>weren't you know, you could say, well, in some way

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<v Speaker 3>they were a deconstruction of Batman. I suppose maybe when

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<v Speaker 3>you place them alongside, like Batman and rob and they

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<v Speaker 3>look like a deconstruction, but they're ultimately action movies about

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who dresses like a bat to beat up criminals. Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they were thoughtful movies, but they did not violate the

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<v Speaker 3>rules of a mass entertainment Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. When you watch any of the three

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<v Speaker 2>of his Batman movies, particularly the third one, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the worst one but still very good. You'll be watching

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<v Speaker 2>with that, You'll be watching the Dark Knight Rises, which

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<v Speaker 2>I have done several times, and you'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is deep, this is this is you know, intellectual,

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<v Speaker 2>this is thought provoking. And he'd be like, it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is the guy have that mask on?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Catwoman? Stop being Catwoman?

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<v Speaker 3>Be normal?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the matter with you? It does happen to be that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's a great again, there's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>this contradiction in his work. It's like, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be smart, but I got to please the people and

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<v Speaker 2>stick and Hathaway in a very tight Catwoman suit, for

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<v Speaker 2>which I say, gives.

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<v Speaker 3>The people what they want. You know. He's like, he

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<v Speaker 3>seems as you know, and maybe this isn't. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if this is Kubrick or not. Just the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he seems to recognize that at a certain point

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<v Speaker 3>he would not be allowed to make a two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>million dollar Odyssey movie if it didn't in some way

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<v Speaker 3>please the person who just wants to see, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he wants to see the cyclops, the you know, the whirlpool,

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, crazy action. Like if it's all going

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<v Speaker 3>to be met damon eating lotus flowers and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>paying homage to Memento. That's you know, eventually he's not

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<v Speaker 3>you know, somebody's gonna close off the purse strings.

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<v Speaker 2>That blank check will eventually bounce, is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, even Oppenheimer and Opperenheimer is not an action film,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is there's a lot of yelling. It's a biopic.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a very boldly structured one, but it ticks

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<v Speaker 3>just about every box you would want from a biography

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<v Speaker 3>of a great man. It does it in a very

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<v Speaker 3>intelligent way and a formally interesting way, but it still

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<v Speaker 3>works on that basic level.

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<v Speaker 4>Are we saying there's a chance that when we push

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<v Speaker 4>that button we.

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<v Speaker 2>Destroy the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing in our research over three years suppose that conclusion

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<v Speaker 5>except us the most remote possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>How remote chances are near zero, near zero.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you want from hery alone?

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<v Speaker 2>So let's now close the three thousand euro tome that

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<v Speaker 2>is the Odyssey. But we've been talking a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>Christopher Nolan, so let's just again plant a flag here.

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<v Speaker 2>The man has made many feature films, not a million,

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<v Speaker 2>but many. He's our Kubrick Kuber didn't work that much

0:24:34.525 --> 0:24:38.484
<v Speaker 2>that frequently either. But Christopher Nolan has made I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you how many feature films he's made by

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<v Speaker 2>going and opening this. Uh, he has made one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

0:24:49.965 --> 0:24:54.285
<v Speaker 2>thirteen feature length films. That's if you include following, which

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<v Speaker 2>was only seventy minutes. But I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Why why would you not include it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because it's not that many people have

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<v Speaker 2>seen it. I'm gonna ask.

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<v Speaker 3>He made it.

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<v Speaker 2>He made it, he made it, he paid for it himself,

0:25:04.965 --> 0:25:07.445
<v Speaker 2>he opened He didn't ask for any money. He said,

0:25:07.485 --> 0:25:10.405
<v Speaker 2>I'm paying for this. It cost him six thousand pounds

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<v Speaker 2>to make it back in nineteen ninety whatever, Matt, let's

0:25:14.045 --> 0:25:19.205
<v Speaker 2>just cut to the chase. What is your favorite? There

0:25:19.285 --> 0:25:24.965
<v Speaker 2>can only be one. What is your favorite Christopher Nolan movie?

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<v Speaker 2>And why?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for me, I mean there's no I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>have to like. This is not a tough decision. I mean,

0:25:31.965 --> 0:25:35.445
<v Speaker 3>to me, there's an obvious answer. Oh okay again, I

0:25:35.485 --> 0:25:38.165
<v Speaker 3>don't think he's made a bad movie. No, he's made

0:25:38.365 --> 0:25:43.845
<v Speaker 3>good movies and great movies and masterpieces. But my favorite,

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<v Speaker 3>though singular one, the one that I have definitely watched

0:25:48.645 --> 0:25:51.485
<v Speaker 3>the Well, maybe I've seen The Dark Knight more. It's

0:25:51.485 --> 0:25:56.205
<v Speaker 3>not The Dark Knight, it's The Prestige. The Prestige is

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite Christopher Nolan movie by a wide margin. I

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<v Speaker 3>have watched it countless times. I rewatched it last week

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<v Speaker 3>as I was preparing to go see The Odyssey. I

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<v Speaker 3>loved it just as much as I ever have. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw things in it that I had never noticed before.

0:26:14.365 --> 0:26:16.085
<v Speaker 3>That's part of the reason I love watching it is

0:26:16.085 --> 0:26:18.725
<v Speaker 3>that every time I watch it, I see things that

0:26:19.165 --> 0:26:22.605
<v Speaker 3>I have not seen in it before. But yes, I

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<v Speaker 3>find it. It is a movie like to me that

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<v Speaker 3>has like no bottom, it has no there's no end

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<v Speaker 3>to the amount of things you can think about and

0:26:31.645 --> 0:26:35.405
<v Speaker 3>discover in this movie. You know it is. It is

0:26:35.445 --> 0:26:39.205
<v Speaker 3>a movie that it that validates the very thing that

0:26:39.245 --> 0:26:41.205
<v Speaker 3>they say, I think first in the movie and just

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<v Speaker 3>about last, and they say it a million times, which

0:26:43.645 --> 0:26:46.485
<v Speaker 3>is are you watching closely? It asks that question of

0:26:46.525 --> 0:26:50.005
<v Speaker 3>the audience, and then it rewards those who are watching closely.

0:26:50.485 --> 0:26:52.045
<v Speaker 3>It's a you know, it's a movie with a lot

0:26:52.045 --> 0:26:54.005
<v Speaker 3>of twists and turns, and at the end it has

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<v Speaker 3>a surprise. Much like The Odyssey. There are some surprises

0:26:57.885 --> 0:26:59.725
<v Speaker 3>at the very end of the movie that reward you

0:26:59.885 --> 0:27:02.725
<v Speaker 3>for having sat through the whole thing. But it's also

0:27:02.765 --> 0:27:04.645
<v Speaker 3>a movie that when you go back and revisit it

0:27:05.285 --> 0:27:08.485
<v Speaker 3>and you know what's going to happen, it doesn't lose

0:27:08.525 --> 0:27:12.885
<v Speaker 3>anything just because you know some of the secrets that are.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to get it more. It took me until the

0:27:15.205 --> 0:27:18.325
<v Speaker 2>second watch to maybe just because I'm a moron, but

0:27:19.205 --> 0:27:24.725
<v Speaker 2>I didn't quite put together that Nicola Tesla really did

0:27:24.805 --> 0:27:29.005
<v Speaker 2>nothing for Christian Bale, like I still even though I

0:27:29.085 --> 0:27:32.045
<v Speaker 2>Christian Bale sends Hugh Jackman out to Colorado as like

0:27:32.085 --> 0:27:34.325
<v Speaker 2>a get out of my hair, like I fooled you,

0:27:35.405 --> 0:27:37.645
<v Speaker 2>I still thought he had. I didn't know what was

0:27:37.685 --> 0:27:40.445
<v Speaker 2>going on with the Crazy Machine, like I didn't realize

0:27:40.445 --> 0:27:44.085
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't understand. I remember watching it the second

0:27:44.085 --> 0:27:47.445
<v Speaker 2>time and understanding a lot more. Here's something interesting that

0:27:47.485 --> 0:27:49.645
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about with you, because I too

0:27:49.725 --> 0:27:51.805
<v Speaker 2>watched it again recently because I hadn't seen it in

0:27:51.845 --> 0:27:54.885
<v Speaker 2>a while. And then I opened up my favorite website

0:27:54.925 --> 0:27:58.484
<v Speaker 2>called Wikipedia, and I was reading about the book the

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<v Speaker 2>Book of the the Preceige.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's based on a novel I have not read, but.

0:28:02.765 --> 0:28:05.805
<v Speaker 2>Very different, Like really Nolan took the book and threw

0:28:05.965 --> 0:28:10.085
<v Speaker 2>like just changed changed facts. To his credit, he said,

0:28:10.125 --> 0:28:12.645
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking the essence of this. I like the idea

0:28:12.685 --> 0:28:17.005
<v Speaker 2>of warring magicians in this Victorian setting, and I like

0:28:17.205 --> 0:28:20.205
<v Speaker 2>uh Nicola Tesla, and I like the box thing, but

0:28:21.285 --> 0:28:24.605
<v Speaker 2>took out many characters and also just pretty much changed

0:28:25.685 --> 0:28:28.605
<v Speaker 2>the ending because the way I interpret the ending, and

0:28:28.645 --> 0:28:32.045
<v Speaker 2>I think the way most people interpret the ending is this.

0:28:33.285 --> 0:28:35.685
<v Speaker 2>When I'm assuming people listening to this have seen the movie.

0:28:35.685 --> 0:28:37.805
<v Speaker 2>It came out a long time ago, nearly twenty years ago.

0:28:37.925 --> 0:28:50.885
<v Speaker 2>The spoil when you fall through the trapdoor and Nicola

0:28:50.965 --> 0:28:55.365
<v Speaker 2>Tesla's machine zaps you, it creates a double, and the

0:28:55.445 --> 0:29:00.165
<v Speaker 2>double is a few yards away. But when you fall through,

0:29:00.325 --> 0:29:04.245
<v Speaker 2>if you're Hugh Jackman, who has given up all, has

0:29:04.325 --> 0:29:06.925
<v Speaker 2>put everything into being a showman and all he cares

0:29:06.965 --> 0:29:10.445
<v Speaker 2>about is his craft, you're saying to yourself, I am

0:29:10.445 --> 0:29:13.285
<v Speaker 2>prepared to die right now, and you fall into a

0:29:13.325 --> 0:29:17.045
<v Speaker 2>tank and you drown. That is how most people interpret that.

0:29:18.045 --> 0:29:22.125
<v Speaker 2>In the book, Apparently, when the test machine zaps you,

0:29:23.285 --> 0:29:27.485
<v Speaker 2>it creates a double and puts your consciousness in that double.

0:29:27.565 --> 0:29:30.965
<v Speaker 2>And the first Hugh Jackman just becomes like a like

0:29:30.965 --> 0:29:34.045
<v Speaker 2>a like an empty shell, like a zombie, and that's

0:29:34.285 --> 0:29:36.925
<v Speaker 2>not in the movie, and that that changes everything to me,

0:29:37.725 --> 0:29:42.005
<v Speaker 2>I will say Matt Singer. In the very first Star

0:29:42.085 --> 0:29:48.925
<v Speaker 2>Trek novel called Spock Must Die, written by James Blish,

0:29:49.005 --> 0:29:53.125
<v Speaker 2>it is positive that when you go through the transporter,

0:29:54.845 --> 0:29:59.005
<v Speaker 2>the Prestige Tesla machine from the book is what happens.

0:29:59.085 --> 0:30:03.885
<v Speaker 2>You die, but your clone lives. And this is not

0:30:04.325 --> 0:30:07.325
<v Speaker 2>discussed much in canon the Cave. You really parse some

0:30:07.365 --> 0:30:09.045
<v Speaker 2>of the things Bones has said over the years, you

0:30:09.125 --> 0:30:12.325
<v Speaker 2>might think he believes this. I asked Mikah Kuda about

0:30:12.325 --> 0:30:14.165
<v Speaker 2>this once. MIKEA. Huota is very important guy in Star

0:30:14.205 --> 0:30:17.125
<v Speaker 2>Trek lore, and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't

0:30:17.125 --> 0:30:18.685
<v Speaker 2>really talk about that much. I guess we got to

0:30:18.725 --> 0:30:21.365
<v Speaker 2>go through a transporter first to see but makes sense.

0:30:21.645 --> 0:30:24.405
<v Speaker 2>So there are some strains of Star Trek fandom who

0:30:24.485 --> 0:30:28.365
<v Speaker 2>believe that the Prestige and the Transporter are very very similar.

0:30:28.405 --> 0:30:30.325
<v Speaker 2>I just want to put that out there. Well, how

0:30:30.325 --> 0:30:33.605
<v Speaker 2>do you interpret that ending though of because he says

0:30:34.645 --> 0:30:38.765
<v Speaker 2>Hugh Jackman says, you never know, nobody cares about the

0:30:38.765 --> 0:30:41.165
<v Speaker 2>man in the box. They only care about the man

0:30:41.205 --> 0:30:43.125
<v Speaker 2>they could see and you know, and but it's like

0:30:43.245 --> 0:30:45.765
<v Speaker 2>he's still holding out hope that he is going to live,

0:30:45.885 --> 0:30:48.645
<v Speaker 2>even though the he that is there is going to

0:30:48.685 --> 0:30:50.405
<v Speaker 2>drowned in a minute. And when we see him drowning,

0:30:50.405 --> 0:30:52.165
<v Speaker 2>he's not having a fun time. He's not like it

0:30:52.245 --> 0:30:55.245
<v Speaker 2>is accomplished. For the end of Black Swan, where she's happy,

0:30:55.605 --> 0:30:58.645
<v Speaker 2>it's he's going, get me the hell out of this time.

0:30:58.805 --> 0:31:00.685
<v Speaker 2>I hated here. I'm about the drown It's no fun

0:31:00.805 --> 0:31:01.045
<v Speaker 2>to me.

0:31:02.325 --> 0:31:07.045
<v Speaker 3>I just see this all as a movie about art,

0:31:07.525 --> 0:31:10.645
<v Speaker 3>to be like the magic and the sci fi elements

0:31:10.645 --> 0:31:14.405
<v Speaker 3>of it are there as an allegory for being an

0:31:14.485 --> 0:31:19.565
<v Speaker 3>artist and the idea of sacrificing for art and how

0:31:19.645 --> 0:31:22.325
<v Speaker 3>far are you willing to go to become the greatest

0:31:22.965 --> 0:31:28.525
<v Speaker 3>of them all? And I think when you watch Nolan's

0:31:28.565 --> 0:31:34.685
<v Speaker 3>movies and you read about him obsessing over you know,

0:31:34.805 --> 0:31:38.125
<v Speaker 3>seventy millimeter cameras and he's on sixty minutes showing how

0:31:38.165 --> 0:31:41.045
<v Speaker 3>they cut the film and all this, if he doesn't

0:31:41.085 --> 0:31:43.845
<v Speaker 3>necessarily believe these things, he's sure done a great job

0:31:43.885 --> 0:31:46.845
<v Speaker 3>of building this mythology around himself.

0:31:46.765 --> 0:31:49.245
<v Speaker 2>Right, as like the two guys, as.

0:31:49.245 --> 0:31:52.485
<v Speaker 3>Like the two Guys, And so I think every time

0:31:52.485 --> 0:31:56.805
<v Speaker 3>I watch it, I see more about art and filmmaking

0:31:57.365 --> 0:32:01.125
<v Speaker 3>in that movie as this kind of you know, Rosetta

0:32:01.205 --> 0:32:04.285
<v Speaker 3>Stone of his entire career. There's you know a lot

0:32:04.285 --> 0:32:07.885
<v Speaker 3>of themes that pop up in other movies you mentioned,

0:32:07.965 --> 0:32:13.285
<v Speaker 3>like there's doubles, there's duplicates. There are secret identities, which

0:32:13.325 --> 0:32:16.405
<v Speaker 3>is like Batman. It is like the Odyssey. You know,

0:32:16.525 --> 0:32:19.405
<v Speaker 3>Odysseus comes home and puts on a disguise. He wears

0:32:19.445 --> 0:32:21.925
<v Speaker 3>a KP. He wears a practically where's a mask, and

0:32:21.925 --> 0:32:24.045
<v Speaker 3>he has a secret. He has a new name. You know,

0:32:24.125 --> 0:32:27.485
<v Speaker 3>he's Batman basically, or he's an jeer, or he is

0:32:27.565 --> 0:32:32.685
<v Speaker 3>Lord Caldlow. There are dead wives. There are all of

0:32:32.725 --> 0:32:37.885
<v Speaker 3>these elements that you can find throughout Nolan's filmography. But

0:32:37.925 --> 0:32:40.485
<v Speaker 3>the stuff that I continue to find fascinating is just,

0:32:41.245 --> 0:32:43.045
<v Speaker 3>you know, there's these great lines in it that are

0:32:43.165 --> 0:32:46.045
<v Speaker 3>all about magic, but all kind of work as being

0:32:46.085 --> 0:32:50.325
<v Speaker 3>about art and filmmaking. You know, the secret impresses no one.

0:32:50.405 --> 0:32:53.965
<v Speaker 3>The trick you use it for is everything, you know, like, yeah,

0:32:54.005 --> 0:32:58.525
<v Speaker 3>it's great that Christopher Nolan shoots on film, and it's

0:32:58.565 --> 0:33:01.965
<v Speaker 3>cool to see him cutting physical celluloid. But if the

0:33:01.965 --> 0:33:04.125
<v Speaker 3>movie was a piece of direc nobody would care about

0:33:04.125 --> 0:33:04.485
<v Speaker 3>all of that.

0:33:04.525 --> 0:33:06.965
<v Speaker 2>And there's an I'm not going to say who, but

0:33:07.005 --> 0:33:11.885
<v Speaker 2>there's a very very low budget British filmmaker who makes

0:33:12.045 --> 0:33:15.725
<v Speaker 2>movies on sixteen millimeters that occasionally show at festivals, and

0:33:15.765 --> 0:33:18.485
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who are just into tech are like, Ah,

0:33:18.525 --> 0:33:20.325
<v Speaker 2>he's the guy who's doing it. He's the guy who's

0:33:20.365 --> 0:33:22.565
<v Speaker 2>doing it. And I seen his movies. They're boring as hell.

0:33:22.605 --> 0:33:25.085
<v Speaker 2>There there's nothing going on there. I've tried. He's made

0:33:25.085 --> 0:33:27.005
<v Speaker 2>three movies. I've seen two of them. Enough with this guy,

0:33:27.485 --> 0:33:28.925
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you who he is later. I don't want

0:33:28.925 --> 0:33:30.245
<v Speaker 2>to Yeah, like.

0:33:30.405 --> 0:33:33.245
<v Speaker 3>Again, like every little thing, like the line he's a

0:33:33.285 --> 0:33:36.805
<v Speaker 3>wonderful magician, he's a dreadful showman. Sounds like a statement

0:33:36.845 --> 0:33:38.885
<v Speaker 3>that could apply to a lot of directors, including the

0:33:38.925 --> 0:33:43.085
<v Speaker 3>one you were just vaguely alluding to. Right, and you

0:33:43.125 --> 0:33:45.965
<v Speaker 3>asked about how I interpret the element of the movie

0:33:46.085 --> 0:33:50.845
<v Speaker 3>involving Hugh Jackman's character. I mean, we haven't even explained

0:33:50.845 --> 0:33:52.725
<v Speaker 3>the plot. I assume most people do know it, but

0:33:52.765 --> 0:33:55.365
<v Speaker 3>it is about Hugh Jackman and Christian bale Is, these

0:33:56.005 --> 0:34:01.005
<v Speaker 3>warring magicians, both trying to outdo one another, and they

0:34:01.165 --> 0:34:05.485
<v Speaker 3>both have versions of a trick that involves transporting, seemingly

0:34:05.525 --> 0:34:10.925
<v Speaker 3>transporting themselves magically from one place to another. I cannot

0:34:10.965 --> 0:34:17.205
<v Speaker 3>claim this next feat as illusion. Watch careful, you'll.

0:34:16.965 --> 0:34:17.925
<v Speaker 4>See no trickery.

0:34:19.525 --> 0:34:24.165
<v Speaker 5>No trickery is employed, merely a technique familiar to certain

0:34:24.205 --> 0:34:27.765
<v Speaker 5>citizens of the Orient and various holy men of the Himalayans.

0:34:28.805 --> 0:34:33.645
<v Speaker 3>It's called in both versions, with various alterations, it's called

0:34:33.645 --> 0:34:37.125
<v Speaker 3>the transported Man. And I think that comes from the book.

0:34:37.325 --> 0:34:40.485
<v Speaker 3>But I also love that because what does every filmmaker

0:34:40.525 --> 0:34:42.884
<v Speaker 3>hope to do when they make a movie. They hope

0:34:42.925 --> 0:34:45.245
<v Speaker 3>to transport people. They hope to take them out of

0:34:45.285 --> 0:34:48.205
<v Speaker 3>their lives and send them back to ancient Greece, or

0:34:48.285 --> 0:34:51.364
<v Speaker 3>to Gotham City, or to the you know, to outer

0:34:51.445 --> 0:34:54.685
<v Speaker 3>space or whatever it is. That's another kind of weird,

0:34:54.765 --> 0:34:59.645
<v Speaker 3>little quiet, little resonance. But the whole aspect of Hugh

0:34:59.725 --> 0:35:03.845
<v Speaker 3>Jackman's trick, the transportation, as you mentioned, as you spoiled.

0:35:03.885 --> 0:35:06.765
<v Speaker 3>It creates a double and one person gets to be

0:35:06.885 --> 0:35:09.765
<v Speaker 3>on you know, in front of the crowd, basking an adoration,

0:35:09.885 --> 0:35:14.645
<v Speaker 3>and one person winds up you know, murdered. But ultimately,

0:35:14.725 --> 0:35:18.045
<v Speaker 3>like originally it's under the stage and not getting to

0:35:18.165 --> 0:35:19.605
<v Speaker 3>you know, like kind of away and.

0:35:19.765 --> 0:35:21.245
<v Speaker 2>Taking it for the team. He's got to take one

0:35:21.285 --> 0:35:22.365
<v Speaker 2>for the team, and not right now.

0:35:22.445 --> 0:35:25.005
<v Speaker 3>And his ego, his eagle, will not allow him to

0:35:25.085 --> 0:35:27.965
<v Speaker 3>be not soaking in the applause. And so that is

0:35:28.005 --> 0:35:30.685
<v Speaker 3>why he creates and creates and ends up doing this

0:35:30.725 --> 0:35:33.365
<v Speaker 3>horrible thing that you were alluding to. But I but

0:35:33.805 --> 0:35:38.925
<v Speaker 3>I mean, directors make beautiful things that delight and astound people,

0:35:39.085 --> 0:35:41.765
<v Speaker 3>and ninety nine point nine percent of the time they're

0:35:41.765 --> 0:35:44.965
<v Speaker 3>not in the room to appreciate that this is art

0:35:45.005 --> 0:35:47.805
<v Speaker 3>that is you know, created to be shown elsewhere. You know,

0:35:48.125 --> 0:35:50.085
<v Speaker 3>they're at the premiere, they're at a screening Gyeah.

0:35:50.125 --> 0:35:52.125
<v Speaker 2>When they're at the premiere, they're also there with the

0:35:52.125 --> 0:35:54.565
<v Speaker 2>studio invites, you know, when you know they go to

0:35:54.605 --> 0:35:57.685
<v Speaker 2>the can Film Festival, everybody's there to give them the

0:35:57.685 --> 0:36:00.045
<v Speaker 2>standing ovation. And then you know they got to go

0:36:00.125 --> 0:36:03.325
<v Speaker 2>to a theater in Idawaho to see how people really respond.

0:36:03.525 --> 0:36:03.645
<v Speaker 6>Right.

0:36:03.685 --> 0:36:06.045
<v Speaker 3>It is so all of these little things that is

0:36:06.085 --> 0:36:09.045
<v Speaker 3>why I find myself going back and back. And yes,

0:36:09.085 --> 0:36:14.165
<v Speaker 3>it has great performances. It has a beautiful screenplay written

0:36:14.205 --> 0:36:16.845
<v Speaker 3>by brothers, which is an interesting element for a movie

0:36:16.845 --> 0:36:18.844
<v Speaker 3>that has twins and one.

0:36:18.885 --> 0:36:21.364
<v Speaker 2>But let's be honest here, one brother is there, both

0:36:21.405 --> 0:36:25.765
<v Speaker 2>in the same business, and one's doing a lot better

0:36:25.805 --> 0:36:28.325
<v Speaker 2>than the other one. Not that Jonathan Nolan is out

0:36:28.365 --> 0:36:32.005
<v Speaker 2>there chilling for work, but he's he's not Christopher Nolan.

0:36:32.085 --> 0:36:35.125
<v Speaker 2>He's the He's very much the other brother. The Coen

0:36:35.165 --> 0:36:39.565
<v Speaker 2>brothers are equals. The Nolan brothers are not. No disrespect right.

0:36:40.085 --> 0:36:42.605
<v Speaker 3>So again, like I we could do a two hour

0:36:42.645 --> 0:36:44.605
<v Speaker 3>episode just on the Prestige, I would have no I

0:36:44.645 --> 0:36:46.925
<v Speaker 3>could do it right now with no further preparation. But

0:36:46.965 --> 0:36:50.844
<v Speaker 3>that's my that's my pick, Jordan, and I do want

0:36:50.845 --> 0:36:52.805
<v Speaker 3>to say, let me just say, please you have not

0:36:52.925 --> 0:36:56.444
<v Speaker 3>seen or wish to revisit The Prestige streaming right now

0:36:56.445 --> 0:36:59.645
<v Speaker 3>on Hulu and Peacock. So there you go. What about you?

0:36:59.645 --> 0:37:01.365
<v Speaker 3>What's your what's your top? Nolan?

0:37:01.725 --> 0:37:06.125
<v Speaker 2>Humorously enough, last week's episode, we talked about the movie Reducks, Reducks,

0:37:06.205 --> 0:37:09.365
<v Speaker 2>and you mentioned how you hate the trope, which is

0:37:09.365 --> 0:37:11.485
<v Speaker 2>the walk hard trope of like you don't want this,

0:37:11.565 --> 0:37:14.404
<v Speaker 2>you gotta get off this train, you gotta stop, and

0:37:15.005 --> 0:37:20.085
<v Speaker 2>that happens in The Prestige. David Bowie as Nicola Tesla.

0:37:20.285 --> 0:37:22.725
<v Speaker 2>He coool casting. He's not in it that much, but

0:37:22.805 --> 0:37:26.964
<v Speaker 2>when he's on screen he kills it. He tells, Hugh Jackman.

0:37:26.805 --> 0:37:30.605
<v Speaker 3>Your abopessions will destroy you as they have destroyed me.

0:37:31.125 --> 0:37:33.605
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the same beat, but it's a little different.

0:37:33.685 --> 0:37:35.685
<v Speaker 2>Like you said last week, I don't mind the beat

0:37:35.805 --> 0:37:38.565
<v Speaker 2>so much. I hate I need a little spin on it,

0:37:38.605 --> 0:37:41.725
<v Speaker 2>and this twenty year old movie has the spin. My

0:37:42.725 --> 0:37:46.325
<v Speaker 2>tragedy about The Prestige is thus but it has a

0:37:46.365 --> 0:37:51.605
<v Speaker 2>happy ending. The Prestige came out in two thousand and six,

0:37:51.845 --> 0:37:56.845
<v Speaker 2>twenty years ago, and I heard it was great, but

0:37:57.005 --> 0:37:59.765
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see it in the theaters for two reasons. One,

0:37:59.805 --> 0:38:01.845
<v Speaker 2>back in two thousand and six, I was not working

0:38:01.925 --> 0:38:05.325
<v Speaker 2>yet in the movie related biz, and every time I

0:38:05.325 --> 0:38:06.925
<v Speaker 2>wanted to see a movie, I had to shell out

0:38:06.965 --> 0:38:08.445
<v Speaker 2>a few bucks, so I was a little more at

0:38:08.445 --> 0:38:12.005
<v Speaker 2>a discretionary about what I saw was not made of money.

0:38:13.005 --> 0:38:15.965
<v Speaker 2>But the real reason I didn't see it was there

0:38:16.045 --> 0:38:19.885
<v Speaker 2>was a movie that not many people remember, that came

0:38:19.925 --> 0:38:25.085
<v Speaker 2>out two months before The Prestige. Do you know which

0:38:25.165 --> 0:38:26.685
<v Speaker 2>movie I'm talking about, either of you.

0:38:27.125 --> 0:38:29.085
<v Speaker 3>I would imagine there's a bunch of movies that came

0:38:29.085 --> 0:38:32.005
<v Speaker 3>out two months Beforetige, but I don't know the specific

0:38:32.045 --> 0:38:32.965
<v Speaker 3>one you're talking about.

0:38:33.045 --> 0:38:35.404
<v Speaker 2>Sam knows everything. He's gonna put it in the chat.

0:38:35.525 --> 0:38:37.924
<v Speaker 2>I could see Sam typing right now. He knows my brain.

0:38:39.245 --> 0:38:41.605
<v Speaker 2>A few months before The Prestige came out, there was

0:38:41.645 --> 0:38:46.844
<v Speaker 2>a movie called The Illusionist and Edward Norton as The Illusionist.

0:38:46.885 --> 0:38:49.845
<v Speaker 2>And it is an okay movie. It is a B

0:38:50.045 --> 0:38:54.565
<v Speaker 2>minus bad. It's not bad. It's a bee to B minus.

0:38:54.645 --> 0:38:57.844
<v Speaker 2>It's a bee it's okay. And it's set. It's not

0:38:57.925 --> 0:39:00.685
<v Speaker 2>set actually in Britain, but it's set. I don't know where.

0:39:00.685 --> 0:39:03.165
<v Speaker 2>It's set, Austria, Hungary. It says here in Vienna, back

0:39:03.165 --> 0:39:06.125
<v Speaker 2>in the day. And it's just like a very similar

0:39:06.245 --> 0:39:09.405
<v Speaker 2>type of movie, just from the poster and the trailer.

0:39:09.805 --> 0:39:11.845
<v Speaker 3>Tonight Es and gentlemen.

0:39:13.125 --> 0:39:17.005
<v Speaker 7>From the furthest corners of the world where the dark

0:39:17.205 --> 0:39:22.005
<v Speaker 7>art still holds sway, I present you a man who

0:39:22.045 --> 0:39:25.045
<v Speaker 7>has unlocked these mysteries.

0:39:25.605 --> 0:39:28.565
<v Speaker 2>So I saw The Illusionist. I shelled out, and then

0:39:28.565 --> 0:39:31.005
<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, you gotta see the Prestige. I'm like, I

0:39:31.085 --> 0:39:33.725
<v Speaker 2>just saw. I just saw a magician movie and it

0:39:33.765 --> 0:39:37.005
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that great. I'm not made of money. Forget the Prestige.

0:39:37.045 --> 0:39:40.245
<v Speaker 2>I'm not interested. And then I never saw it. And

0:39:39.845 --> 0:39:42.924
<v Speaker 2>then and then later after the Batman movies and people

0:39:42.965 --> 0:39:45.405
<v Speaker 2>are talking about Christopher Nolan is the is our living Kubrick.

0:39:45.805 --> 0:39:47.645
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what, really, where where did this guy come?

0:39:47.725 --> 0:39:51.125
<v Speaker 2>Was it Insomnia? Wasn't that? I remember? Memento Momento is cool?

0:39:51.365 --> 0:39:53.325
<v Speaker 2>But you never saw The Prestige. No, I never saw us.

0:39:53.365 --> 0:39:56.765
<v Speaker 2>I had a schlepover to the Blockbuster watch it on VHS,

0:39:56.925 --> 0:39:58.725
<v Speaker 2>so I've never actually seen it in a theater. But

0:39:58.765 --> 0:40:01.525
<v Speaker 2>the happy ending is that it actually is getting a

0:40:01.525 --> 0:40:05.245
<v Speaker 2>re release later this year for the twentieth anniversary. So

0:40:05.805 --> 0:40:08.645
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that it's gonna play every multiplex, but

0:40:08.725 --> 0:40:11.205
<v Speaker 2>I will have the opportunity to go see The Prestige

0:40:11.245 --> 0:40:15.165
<v Speaker 2>in theaters and that will be the happy third act

0:40:15.445 --> 0:40:19.924
<v Speaker 2>for me. My favorite Christopher Nolan movie also is one

0:40:19.965 --> 0:40:23.325
<v Speaker 2>that I really don't don't need to think about too much.

0:40:24.925 --> 0:40:27.645
<v Speaker 2>Prior to this film, I would have said Interstellar, not

0:40:27.685 --> 0:40:29.805
<v Speaker 2>just because I love outer Space. I find the central

0:40:29.845 --> 0:40:32.245
<v Speaker 2>premise touching. I just love the music. I listen to

0:40:32.245 --> 0:40:35.685
<v Speaker 2>that soundtrack all the time. I just I just really

0:40:35.725 --> 0:40:39.925
<v Speaker 2>really really enjoy Interstellar, and I think Inception is cool too,

0:40:39.925 --> 0:40:41.405
<v Speaker 2>and I like the bad like them all, even like

0:40:41.405 --> 0:40:42.725
<v Speaker 2>following it a little. But I like the one with

0:40:42.765 --> 0:40:44.884
<v Speaker 2>al Pacino. It's even not that great, but I like it.

0:40:46.205 --> 0:40:48.765
<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you. I remember where I was when

0:40:48.765 --> 0:40:53.805
<v Speaker 2>I first saw the movie Tenant. I was home because

0:40:53.845 --> 0:40:57.845
<v Speaker 2>it came out during the COVID, remember the COVID, And there.

0:40:57.725 --> 0:41:00.805
<v Speaker 3>Was a thing, yes, I remember the COVID.

0:41:00.965 --> 0:41:04.485
<v Speaker 2>There was a whole thing about should be released in theaters,

0:41:04.485 --> 0:41:07.525
<v Speaker 2>And actually Tenant was released in a few theaters, but

0:41:07.565 --> 0:41:09.205
<v Speaker 2>not in New York City where I was living at

0:41:09.205 --> 0:41:11.885
<v Speaker 2>the time, and some people actually did schlep out to

0:41:12.005 --> 0:41:15.045
<v Speaker 2>Connecticut or wherever to see it. And I was given

0:41:15.325 --> 0:41:19.445
<v Speaker 2>by the studio, much against Christopher Nolan's wishes, by It's

0:41:19.445 --> 0:41:21.605
<v Speaker 2>funny by Warner Brothers. He was a one Brother's man

0:41:21.685 --> 0:41:25.485
<v Speaker 2>until this happened, and now he's a universal man. They

0:41:25.525 --> 0:41:27.765
<v Speaker 2>did let critics watch it on a link, but it

0:41:27.885 --> 0:41:31.565
<v Speaker 2>was a very very short window because of piracy and

0:41:31.605 --> 0:41:36.405
<v Speaker 2>because of Christopher Nolan's dismay about all this. So I

0:41:36.445 --> 0:41:38.365
<v Speaker 2>had the link was good for like twelve hours. You

0:41:38.365 --> 0:41:40.805
<v Speaker 2>could watch Tenant in twelve hours. So I turned it on,

0:41:41.605 --> 0:41:45.765
<v Speaker 2>I hit play. I was transported into a universe I

0:41:45.805 --> 0:41:48.765
<v Speaker 2>did not know existed. It was over. It was late

0:41:48.765 --> 0:41:50.845
<v Speaker 2>at night already, it was now already eleven o'clock, and

0:41:50.885 --> 0:41:53.765
<v Speaker 2>I said this, this link is going to expire. I

0:41:53.885 --> 0:41:56.445
<v Speaker 2>must watch this again right now. And I did, and

0:41:56.485 --> 0:41:57.925
<v Speaker 2>I stayed up till one thirty in the morning. I

0:41:57.965 --> 0:42:00.285
<v Speaker 2>watched Tenant twice in a row, back in front. If

0:42:00.325 --> 0:42:02.925
<v Speaker 2>only I had watched it once backwards and watch forwards.

0:42:03.565 --> 0:42:06.364
<v Speaker 2>I've seen Tenant five or six times. I don't really

0:42:06.485 --> 0:42:08.885
<v Speaker 2>understand it. Every time I watch it, I start to

0:42:08.925 --> 0:42:11.605
<v Speaker 2>think I understand it, and then I go, no, I don't.

0:42:12.245 --> 0:42:14.725
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking it on faith. I think it makes sense.

0:42:15.845 --> 0:42:19.045
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it can't make sense because these things don't exist.

0:42:19.045 --> 0:42:21.885
<v Speaker 2>You cannot make a temporal pincer move because that's not

0:42:21.925 --> 0:42:25.045
<v Speaker 2>a real thing. So it makes as much sense as

0:42:25.045 --> 0:42:29.885
<v Speaker 2>you want it to. But I am just so enthralled

0:42:30.125 --> 0:42:35.085
<v Speaker 2>by it and captivated by it. And even Kenneth Browna

0:42:35.245 --> 0:42:39.325
<v Speaker 2>doing the musketche mouse and squirrel Russian accent works for me.

0:42:39.525 --> 0:42:44.805
<v Speaker 2>I just every molecule this movie brings me joy. Maybe

0:42:44.845 --> 0:42:47.045
<v Speaker 2>it's because I first saw it, not in the theater

0:42:47.085 --> 0:42:49.005
<v Speaker 2>where I should, but it was during these COVID times,

0:42:49.005 --> 0:42:52.924
<v Speaker 2>which were very bleak and this cool thing. I did

0:42:52.925 --> 0:42:55.245
<v Speaker 2>eventually see Tenant in a theater. They did have rereleased

0:42:55.285 --> 0:42:58.285
<v Speaker 2>around Oppenheimer, and I saw that in Imax and it

0:42:58.365 --> 0:43:00.845
<v Speaker 2>was just so good. How would you like to die?

0:43:01.165 --> 0:43:03.404
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:43:03.765 --> 0:43:15.325
<v Speaker 2>You've chose their own profession. I have spent time on

0:43:15.405 --> 0:43:18.565
<v Speaker 2>Reddit looking at Tenant threads trying to follow the graph

0:43:19.085 --> 0:43:21.805
<v Speaker 2>of where they're moving. No, I'm I'm not smart enough

0:43:21.805 --> 0:43:24.565
<v Speaker 2>for it. I even saw an interview with Nolan where

0:43:24.605 --> 0:43:27.085
<v Speaker 2>he even confessed sometimes that he gets confused and doesn't

0:43:27.085 --> 0:43:29.725
<v Speaker 2>know what's going on. But it is just so cool.

0:43:29.845 --> 0:43:33.885
<v Speaker 2>The look, the music, the editing, the camera movement did

0:43:33.965 --> 0:43:37.485
<v Speaker 2>the plane smashing into the thing. The guy's running around backwards,

0:43:38.565 --> 0:43:41.165
<v Speaker 2>John David Washington stabbing himself in the arm and then

0:43:41.285 --> 0:43:43.045
<v Speaker 2>healing and then bleeding, and you don't know what the

0:43:43.085 --> 0:43:45.725
<v Speaker 2>hell is going on talking into the thing? Why would

0:43:45.725 --> 0:43:49.645
<v Speaker 2>talking into the thing go backwards? Schmuh. And then they

0:43:49.725 --> 0:43:53.085
<v Speaker 2>understand each other. It's great. Everything about it is great.

0:43:53.365 --> 0:43:56.165
<v Speaker 2>There's no other movie like TenneT. There's so many Kakamaimi

0:43:56.325 --> 0:43:59.805
<v Speaker 2>crazy science fiction movies out there, there's none that's quite

0:43:59.845 --> 0:44:03.125
<v Speaker 2>so crazy but also so big and polished with a

0:44:03.125 --> 0:44:06.005
<v Speaker 2>production design and a budget like this. It's a one

0:44:06.005 --> 0:44:09.685
<v Speaker 2>of one. Nothing else out there is like this, and

0:44:10.445 --> 0:44:12.885
<v Speaker 2>it is my favorite and it will always be my favorite.

0:44:12.925 --> 0:44:14.645
<v Speaker 2>And there's nothing you can do to stop me. That

0:44:14.725 --> 0:44:16.125
<v Speaker 2>is my answer. Wow.

0:44:16.485 --> 0:44:20.005
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I don't understand it, but I like it. I

0:44:20.005 --> 0:44:21.925
<v Speaker 3>don't know what's going on, but it's the best of

0:44:22.045 --> 0:44:22.725
<v Speaker 3>he's ever made.

0:44:23.005 --> 0:44:24.605
<v Speaker 2>This is how I feel about a lot of things.

0:44:24.605 --> 0:44:26.445
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes my wife gets upset with me. I go, I

0:44:26.445 --> 0:44:28.525
<v Speaker 2>don't understand you, but I love you. I mean, that's

0:44:28.565 --> 0:44:30.365
<v Speaker 2>just the way it is. That's that's what life is

0:44:30.405 --> 0:44:30.805
<v Speaker 2>all about.

0:44:30.805 --> 0:44:32.965
<v Speaker 3>You have the patients of a saint. I certainly couldn't

0:44:32.965 --> 0:44:37.965
<v Speaker 3>do it. God bless that woman. Uh yeah, my First

0:44:38.005 --> 0:44:39.924
<v Speaker 3>of all, I want to know what I did wrong

0:44:39.965 --> 0:44:42.005
<v Speaker 3>because I did not get a link to tenant. Nobody

0:44:42.005 --> 0:44:45.765
<v Speaker 3>gave me a screening link to watch at home during

0:44:45.965 --> 0:44:49.685
<v Speaker 3>the COVID. I did the thing during the COVID that

0:44:49.725 --> 0:44:52.844
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people did. Yeah, well, I rented. I

0:44:52.845 --> 0:44:54.444
<v Speaker 3>did the whole thing where you could rent a theater.

0:44:54.525 --> 0:44:56.685
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember? Do you remember that that became a

0:44:56.765 --> 0:45:00.364
<v Speaker 3>thing they like, They made them relatively inexpensive, that's right. Yeah,

0:45:00.405 --> 0:45:02.805
<v Speaker 3>And I went actually went with my brother in law.

0:45:02.845 --> 0:45:04.565
<v Speaker 3>We hadn't been to the movies in a very long

0:45:04.605 --> 0:45:06.725
<v Speaker 3>time and he wanted to go too, So the two

0:45:06.805 --> 0:45:10.325
<v Speaker 3>of us went to a theater in Connecticut. I was

0:45:10.325 --> 0:45:12.525
<v Speaker 3>we were hanging out with my in laws at the time,

0:45:13.445 --> 0:45:17.365
<v Speaker 3>and I rented out this multiplex and the you know,

0:45:17.405 --> 0:45:19.085
<v Speaker 3>the whole punchline is, this is the first time I've

0:45:19.085 --> 0:45:21.045
<v Speaker 3>been in a movie theater and what was it like

0:45:21.085 --> 0:45:22.965
<v Speaker 3>six months at that point something.

0:45:22.765 --> 0:45:25.005
<v Speaker 2>Like that, which the guys like us is a long

0:45:25.045 --> 0:45:26.645
<v Speaker 2>time to some people, right.

0:45:26.685 --> 0:45:29.085
<v Speaker 3>I know, to most people that's that's normal, but to us,

0:45:29.125 --> 0:45:31.285
<v Speaker 3>that's like, you know, yeah, that's a that's a drought

0:45:31.325 --> 0:45:34.805
<v Speaker 3>of all droughts. And uh. The whole idea was, oh,

0:45:34.805 --> 0:45:36.805
<v Speaker 3>there's the there's the COVID. You don't want to be

0:45:36.885 --> 0:45:38.845
<v Speaker 3>in an enclosed this the movie theater is the worst

0:45:38.845 --> 0:45:41.685
<v Speaker 3>place you could be, right, yeah, okay, but we'll rent

0:45:41.725 --> 0:45:44.765
<v Speaker 3>a private screening room and it'll be private and you

0:45:44.805 --> 0:45:47.125
<v Speaker 3>don't have to worry about that. Fantastic, I'm doing it.

0:45:47.165 --> 0:45:49.965
<v Speaker 3>I gotta see Tenant. And we show up to the

0:45:49.965 --> 0:45:52.765
<v Speaker 3>movie theater and we have our tickets and we go

0:45:52.845 --> 0:45:56.285
<v Speaker 3>to our private theater and we walk inside and the

0:45:56.325 --> 0:45:59.565
<v Speaker 3>movie hasn't started yet, but there's two people inside who

0:45:59.605 --> 0:46:04.805
<v Speaker 3>are furiously making out, not just in there, like just

0:46:05.245 --> 0:46:12.444
<v Speaker 3>going at it. The opposite of the germ free surgical

0:46:12.725 --> 0:46:17.445
<v Speaker 3>operating room like environment you want in the age of

0:46:17.485 --> 0:46:20.925
<v Speaker 3>the COVID. Yeah, where are people making out? To the

0:46:21.165 --> 0:46:25.685
<v Speaker 3>tenant pre show and a random cinema in Connecticut?

0:46:25.765 --> 0:46:27.525
<v Speaker 2>How did they sneak into your theater? That was the

0:46:27.525 --> 0:46:28.805
<v Speaker 2>Singer Theater and they snuck in?

0:46:28.925 --> 0:46:32.205
<v Speaker 3>We had to like go out find a person.

0:46:32.245 --> 0:46:34.005
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and be like, excuse me.

0:46:34.445 --> 0:46:38.085
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, we're wearing masks all of this stuff. Excuse me,

0:46:38.725 --> 0:46:47.845
<v Speaker 3>there are people brutally making out. They're round and third right, yes,

0:46:47.965 --> 0:46:51.805
<v Speaker 3>they're they're they're engaging in a temporal pincer movement.

0:46:53.685 --> 0:46:55.325
<v Speaker 2>So how what it had they kicked.

0:46:55.085 --> 0:46:58.205
<v Speaker 3>Them out or eventually Yeah, we found someone, they went in,

0:46:58.285 --> 0:47:02.605
<v Speaker 3>they politely asked them to depart. They left, and then

0:47:03.045 --> 0:47:06.245
<v Speaker 3>we went in and we sat in the theater and

0:47:06.285 --> 0:47:08.885
<v Speaker 3>I held my breath for two hours, Right, and I

0:47:08.965 --> 0:47:09.685
<v Speaker 3>were very nervous.

0:47:09.725 --> 0:47:11.565
<v Speaker 2>You're like, geez, this is supposed to be a clean.

0:47:11.405 --> 0:47:14.364
<v Speaker 3>Room, and right, that was already ruined immediately. It didn't

0:47:14.405 --> 0:47:19.405
<v Speaker 3>matter what happened after that. But in terms of the movie, uh,

0:47:19.445 --> 0:47:22.565
<v Speaker 3>like all of Christopher Nolan movie movies, it is beautiful,

0:47:22.685 --> 0:47:25.005
<v Speaker 3>It is interesting, It has provocative ideas, It has a

0:47:25.005 --> 0:47:27.884
<v Speaker 3>great cast, it has great performances. But I think, even

0:47:27.925 --> 0:47:30.405
<v Speaker 3>as I said, uh last week on the show, the

0:47:30.445 --> 0:47:32.245
<v Speaker 3>more I watch it, and I have watched it a

0:47:32.245 --> 0:47:34.565
<v Speaker 3>few times now, the less I understand it. It is

0:47:34.565 --> 0:47:37.885
<v Speaker 3>the only movie I think where like trying to get

0:47:38.245 --> 0:47:40.565
<v Speaker 3>deeper into it and to put it together only makes

0:47:40.605 --> 0:47:41.565
<v Speaker 3>it more confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's that's why it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why you love it.

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<v Speaker 2>All I have for you is a word tenant. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know we're we're we're we're running late. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>long episode already, but let's just very quickly do a

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<v Speaker 2>res egg for uh, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Oddop, the one love so much that you can't recall

0:48:08.005 --> 0:48:09.925
<v Speaker 3>the name of it, the honesty.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you Matt Singer want to tell people what the

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<v Speaker 2>name of this segment is called? I know you like

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<v Speaker 2>to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's the recommendation segment. I mean it's also known as.

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<v Speaker 8>Works not to be confused with buzzuga.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, but let's do a lightning round re seg because

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<v Speaker 2>we got to get to the game. It's a good

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<v Speaker 2>game this week. What is she? Would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>resegg first or shall I?

0:48:40.245 --> 0:48:41.685
<v Speaker 3>I can go first, I can do it first.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>I this is I will confess something here that I

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<v Speaker 3>probably should have mentioned during our discussion of the Odyssey,

0:48:49.485 --> 0:48:52.085
<v Speaker 3>as it might be a mitigating factor for my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>I think swords and sandals movies are generally not interesting.

0:48:56.605 --> 0:48:58.404
<v Speaker 4>I think they're I think.

0:48:58.325 --> 0:49:01.844
<v Speaker 3>They're kind of boring. I associate them with all of

0:49:01.885 --> 0:49:04.605
<v Speaker 3>the most boring classes I had to take in college.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a genre that I love.

0:49:09.405 --> 0:49:13.405
<v Speaker 2>I like I like an airplane. I like movies about gladiators,

0:49:13.765 --> 0:49:16.125
<v Speaker 2>like in Rocky Horror. I like to see a good

0:49:16.165 --> 0:49:19.965
<v Speaker 2>Steve Reeves movie. I'm a big fan of the peplam genre.

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<v Speaker 2>Continue continue.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not I'm not an expert in it, but

0:49:24.565 --> 0:49:26.565
<v Speaker 3>I thought I would use this as an excuse to

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<v Speaker 3>watch some stuff that I hadn't seen. The Odyssey, which

0:49:30.485 --> 0:49:32.845
<v Speaker 3>I did like, did make me think, well, maybe i'm

0:49:33.005 --> 0:49:35.085
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe I need to give this other shot.

0:49:35.325 --> 0:49:38.645
<v Speaker 3>I watched Troy, which we already mentioned. I didn't like it,

0:49:38.765 --> 0:49:42.165
<v Speaker 3>thought it stunk just bad. It made me appreciate the

0:49:42.165 --> 0:49:44.485
<v Speaker 3>Odyssey even more, and I was somebody told me, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to watch the director's cut. It's four hours

0:49:47.005 --> 0:49:49.005
<v Speaker 3>long and it's a lot better. I ain't watching a

0:49:49.205 --> 0:49:51.805
<v Speaker 3>movie that's twice as long as the crummy version. No,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, I'm going to pass on that for now.

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<v Speaker 3>So instead I was thinking about what I could recommend possibly,

0:49:59.005 --> 0:50:00.845
<v Speaker 3>or what I could see, and it gave me the

0:50:00.885 --> 0:50:06.245
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to scratch a cinematic witch I have never scratched. Oh,

0:50:06.285 --> 0:50:09.765
<v Speaker 3>which is that? I? As I'm sure Jordan and Sam

0:50:09.885 --> 0:50:12.725
<v Speaker 3>and longtime readers and listeners of mine will no, am

0:50:13.365 --> 0:50:18.045
<v Speaker 3>a obsessive and fascinated by the films of one Arnold Schwarzenegger.

0:50:18.445 --> 0:50:22.925
<v Speaker 3>And Arnold Schwarzenegger's obsession with movie and bodybuilding can be

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<v Speaker 3>both traced back to the exact same thing, a series

0:50:26.405 --> 0:50:32.125
<v Speaker 3>of Italian Hercules movies starring bodybuilder Reg Park. He saw

0:50:32.125 --> 0:50:34.685
<v Speaker 3>these movies as a teenager in Austria and he was

0:50:34.805 --> 0:50:38.405
<v Speaker 3>mesmerized by them. Now mostly he was mesmerized by Reg

0:50:38.525 --> 0:50:43.245
<v Speaker 3>Park's physique. But nonetheless, I've never seen any Reg Park

0:50:43.525 --> 0:50:46.884
<v Speaker 3>Hercules movies, and I decided I would watch I would

0:50:46.925 --> 0:50:49.645
<v Speaker 3>watch one and try to understand what it was that

0:50:49.805 --> 0:50:52.725
<v Speaker 3>so inspired the last action Hero of my own youth,

0:50:53.965 --> 0:50:58.525
<v Speaker 3>and on YouTube I found Hercules in the Haunted World

0:50:58.885 --> 0:51:03.805
<v Speaker 3>from nineteen sixty one, which to my surprise was directed

0:51:03.845 --> 0:51:07.605
<v Speaker 3>by Mario Bava. Is the second film ever made by

0:51:07.645 --> 0:51:11.844
<v Speaker 3>Mario Baba after Black Sunday, and honestly I really liked it.

0:51:11.845 --> 0:51:14.285
<v Speaker 3>It was full of surprises. It is a bit schlocky

0:51:14.285 --> 0:51:19.364
<v Speaker 3>at times. The version I watched was dubbed and it

0:51:19.365 --> 0:51:22.085
<v Speaker 3>it is not the most beautiful print in the world,

0:51:22.245 --> 0:51:25.404
<v Speaker 3>but it does have a kind of This movie has

0:51:25.445 --> 0:51:30.404
<v Speaker 3>a kind of oddball, artificial sort of beauty. In terms

0:51:30.485 --> 0:51:32.565
<v Speaker 3>of its depiction of ancient Greece. It might not be

0:51:32.645 --> 0:51:36.365
<v Speaker 3>possible to make one that's more different than Christopher Nolan's

0:51:36.405 --> 0:51:39.445
<v Speaker 3>The Odyssey. It is like a fever dream of ancient

0:51:39.485 --> 0:51:43.085
<v Speaker 3>Greece that's also Italy, And it kind of looks at

0:51:43.125 --> 0:51:46.404
<v Speaker 3>times like the nineteen sixties Batman TV show with all

0:51:46.405 --> 0:51:51.765
<v Speaker 3>the colored gels and lights and like kind of psychedelic atmosphere.

0:51:52.245 --> 0:51:55.245
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen anything quite like it, but it is

0:51:55.405 --> 0:52:00.685
<v Speaker 3>a little like The Odyssey. Hercules redch Park. He returns

0:52:00.725 --> 0:52:04.485
<v Speaker 3>home from a long journey to the woman he loves. Later,

0:52:04.925 --> 0:52:09.365
<v Speaker 3>to save that woman, he ventures into Hades, although again

0:52:09.445 --> 0:52:13.605
<v Speaker 3>it's a very different look to Hades in this film.

0:52:14.605 --> 0:52:18.844
<v Speaker 3>He has to locate this object that will cure her

0:52:19.005 --> 0:52:23.685
<v Speaker 3>of this mythological sickness. But there's all kinds of practical effects.

0:52:23.685 --> 0:52:27.725
<v Speaker 3>There are monsters, some of them very striking looking, not

0:52:27.845 --> 0:52:32.525
<v Speaker 3>as impressive, not as realistic as The Odyssey, but a

0:52:32.605 --> 0:52:35.605
<v Speaker 3>kind of nightmarish in a fun way. It I feel

0:52:35.605 --> 0:52:38.605
<v Speaker 3>like I kind of mentioned this movie or quote it

0:52:39.285 --> 0:52:41.285
<v Speaker 3>reference it way too much on this podcast. But it

0:52:41.965 --> 0:52:45.725
<v Speaker 3>struck me as the sort of movie because Christopher Lee

0:52:45.805 --> 0:52:48.805
<v Speaker 3>is the villain of the film. Yeah, it struck me

0:52:48.925 --> 0:52:53.245
<v Speaker 3>of like a kind of movie that Leonardo DiCaprio's character

0:52:53.285 --> 0:52:55.845
<v Speaker 3>from Once upon a Time in Hollywood might have made.

0:52:56.325 --> 0:52:58.205
<v Speaker 3>You know, at this time he could have played that

0:52:58.365 --> 0:53:02.285
<v Speaker 3>character or Hercules' sidekick if his career got really bad.

0:53:03.005 --> 0:53:05.485
<v Speaker 3>Because boy does Christopher Lee look not happy to be

0:53:05.565 --> 0:53:06.245
<v Speaker 3>in this movie.

0:53:06.325 --> 0:53:07.645
<v Speaker 2>He is bummed out.

0:53:08.565 --> 0:53:09.805
<v Speaker 3>He just looks very sad.

0:53:10.125 --> 0:53:12.844
<v Speaker 5>The voces of evil dominated this land before the Father

0:53:12.885 --> 0:53:15.725
<v Speaker 5>of Eurites defeated them and banished them forever to the

0:53:15.805 --> 0:53:19.364
<v Speaker 5>Kingdom of the Dead, and there cryst will hang over

0:53:19.525 --> 0:53:22.844
<v Speaker 5>us and over all this land until such time as

0:53:22.885 --> 0:53:26.165
<v Speaker 5>the last descendant of him who banished them shall be destroyed.

0:53:26.645 --> 0:53:28.605
<v Speaker 2>But surely there must be some way to combat them.

0:53:29.605 --> 0:53:33.285
<v Speaker 3>As for the Arnold connection, Yeah, Reg Park, I don't

0:53:33.285 --> 0:53:36.125
<v Speaker 3>know that he's the best actor I ever saw. He's

0:53:36.205 --> 0:53:39.005
<v Speaker 3>not that great as a presence, but boy does he

0:53:39.045 --> 0:53:41.565
<v Speaker 3>have a great physique. I'll give him that. He does

0:53:41.645 --> 0:53:42.805
<v Speaker 3>look like I.

0:53:42.725 --> 0:53:45.125
<v Speaker 2>Can do him one beta. I will also be funny.

0:53:45.525 --> 0:53:48.325
<v Speaker 3>That's right. He does look like he could have been

0:53:48.325 --> 0:53:51.005
<v Speaker 3>the model for the Hercules that shows up in Marvel

0:53:51.005 --> 0:53:52.965
<v Speaker 3>comics as a member of the Avengers. I mean, he

0:53:53.085 --> 0:53:55.645
<v Speaker 3>just looks like a Greek demi god.

0:53:55.925 --> 0:54:00.765
<v Speaker 2>And I'm looking at Reg Parks. He only made five

0:54:00.885 --> 0:54:03.565
<v Speaker 2>movies between the years of sixty one and sixty five.

0:54:03.605 --> 0:54:06.205
<v Speaker 2>Four of them are Hercules movies. One of them is

0:54:06.485 --> 0:54:10.765
<v Speaker 2>a Machista film and Machiste Machista Matchista in the House pronounced.

0:54:11.045 --> 0:54:15.005
<v Speaker 2>That's another character that actually Steve Reeves did a lot

0:54:15.005 --> 0:54:17.045
<v Speaker 2>of his. I've seen some Steve Reeves.

0:54:17.125 --> 0:54:20.605
<v Speaker 3>He is another very famous Hercules. Yeah, but Arnold was.

0:54:20.765 --> 0:54:23.485
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm sure he liked those two. But Reg Park,

0:54:23.605 --> 0:54:25.485
<v Speaker 3>that's the guy. If you read his memoir, which I

0:54:25.485 --> 0:54:28.285
<v Speaker 3>have read that's the guy. He talks about Reg Park

0:54:28.365 --> 0:54:35.685
<v Speaker 3>and inspired by his pictorial muscles phenomenon, and maybe for him,

0:54:35.725 --> 0:54:38.525
<v Speaker 3>maybe that's all it was. But honestly, I liked the

0:54:38.525 --> 0:54:42.085
<v Speaker 3>movie for the bavaiss, for the atmosphere, for the direction,

0:54:42.285 --> 0:54:46.045
<v Speaker 3>the sets, the costumes, kind of practical but kind of

0:54:46.085 --> 0:54:47.165
<v Speaker 3>plastic monsters.

0:54:47.245 --> 0:54:49.405
<v Speaker 2>I had had a little bit had a little bit

0:54:49.445 --> 0:54:50.125
<v Speaker 2>of money behind it.

0:54:50.725 --> 0:54:52.045
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it has a lot of money,

0:54:52.045 --> 0:54:54.925
<v Speaker 3>but it has a little bit of artistic flair. So

0:54:55.485 --> 0:54:58.884
<v Speaker 3>Hercules in the Haunted World available on YouTube. It wasn't

0:54:58.885 --> 0:55:03.725
<v Speaker 3>streaming anywhere else, but the full movie was on YouTube.

0:55:03.885 --> 0:55:07.805
<v Speaker 3>That's your what's your rec seg recommendation for the odds.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna let the I'm gonna let the readers

0:55:09.965 --> 0:55:12.685
<v Speaker 2>know that that is the second of the five Reg

0:55:12.765 --> 0:55:13.405
<v Speaker 2>Park films.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I haven't seen the others. You don't need to

0:55:15.925 --> 0:55:17.725
<v Speaker 3>see anything else, I promise you.

0:55:17.965 --> 0:55:20.685
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So I was thinking, like you, I would do

0:55:20.725 --> 0:55:23.964
<v Speaker 2>something similar and try to find something in the same vein.

0:55:24.285 --> 0:55:27.125
<v Speaker 2>And it took me three tries. And I wasn't gonna

0:55:27.125 --> 0:55:28.844
<v Speaker 2>watch two thousand and one at Space Odyssey. I wasn't

0:55:28.845 --> 0:55:31.125
<v Speaker 2>gonna watch o Brother or art Thou. There also is

0:55:31.165 --> 0:55:34.085
<v Speaker 2>a movie called Ulysses Gaze, which I maybe saw one

0:55:34.125 --> 0:55:36.605
<v Speaker 2>hundred years ago, that is loosely based on the Odyssey

0:55:36.605 --> 0:55:39.645
<v Speaker 2>with Harvey Kaitel. But I remember that being a little dull,

0:55:39.685 --> 0:55:41.085
<v Speaker 2>and I wasn't in the mood. So the first thing

0:55:41.125 --> 0:55:45.645
<v Speaker 2>I did was I found there is a movie called

0:55:45.685 --> 0:55:50.725
<v Speaker 2>Helen of Troy, and Helen of Troy is from the year.

0:55:52.525 --> 0:55:55.605
<v Speaker 2>It's from the fifties, and it's kind of like a

0:55:55.725 --> 0:55:59.805
<v Speaker 2>mishmash of all these you know, it's a little bit

0:55:59.845 --> 0:56:01.685
<v Speaker 2>of the of the Iliad and a little bit of

0:56:01.725 --> 0:56:05.965
<v Speaker 2>the Odyssey, and it's got all these characters, and it

0:56:06.045 --> 0:56:10.085
<v Speaker 2>was directed by Robert Wise, So I was like, this

0:56:10.245 --> 0:56:13.365
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be good. Right. It's directed by Robert Wise,

0:56:13.925 --> 0:56:16.844
<v Speaker 2>who of course made you know. I mean he made

0:56:16.925 --> 0:56:18.605
<v Speaker 2>the Sound of Music, right, I mean that was That's

0:56:18.605 --> 0:56:20.725
<v Speaker 2>a biggie, and he made He was an editor on

0:56:21.405 --> 0:56:22.125
<v Speaker 2>Citizen Kane.

0:56:22.165 --> 0:56:26.165
<v Speaker 3>He made, by any chance, did he direct a Star

0:56:26.285 --> 0:56:27.205
<v Speaker 3>Trek Motion.

0:56:27.085 --> 0:56:31.885
<v Speaker 2>Major directed Star Trek Star trekst One the motion picture

0:56:33.405 --> 0:56:35.565
<v Speaker 2>he did do that, which I think is a very

0:56:35.565 --> 0:56:37.965
<v Speaker 2>good movie. And he also did The Andromeda Strain, which

0:56:38.005 --> 0:56:40.205
<v Speaker 2>I love. I love the Andromeda Strain. So here's the parts.

0:56:40.765 --> 0:56:44.285
<v Speaker 2>Hell if Troy kind of blows, it's really boring. I

0:56:44.965 --> 0:56:47.925
<v Speaker 2>liked the look of it, but it was not that good,

0:56:48.005 --> 0:56:50.485
<v Speaker 2>so I went back to the well and then I

0:56:50.605 --> 0:56:53.445
<v Speaker 2>found something very arty from the year nineteen eighty nine

0:56:53.525 --> 0:56:57.005
<v Speaker 2>called Nostos the Return. And what I loved about this

0:56:57.925 --> 0:57:01.125
<v Speaker 2>is that it is in a made up language. There

0:57:01.165 --> 0:57:02.925
<v Speaker 2>is not a lot of dialogue in it, but when

0:57:02.965 --> 0:57:05.645
<v Speaker 2>they do speak, it's just gobbledy cook with no subtitles.

0:57:05.685 --> 0:57:07.085
<v Speaker 2>So I like that it was meant to be agient

0:57:07.125 --> 0:57:09.485
<v Speaker 2>Greek that you're not supposed to understand. It is a

0:57:09.685 --> 0:57:16.845
<v Speaker 2>very already naturalistic depiction of Odysseus's journey that is probably

0:57:16.885 --> 0:57:19.525
<v Speaker 2>beautiful to see. It's kind of like a very art film,

0:57:19.565 --> 0:57:22.645
<v Speaker 2>great to see in a theater. A lot of sweeping

0:57:22.725 --> 0:57:25.525
<v Speaker 2>shots of Greek islands and whatnot and caves, but not

0:57:25.565 --> 0:57:28.085
<v Speaker 2>a lot of action. It's a very short movie, and

0:57:28.125 --> 0:57:30.605
<v Speaker 2>I liked it, but it's really not what I was

0:57:30.645 --> 0:57:34.605
<v Speaker 2>looking for. So then I found it, like Goldilocks. I

0:57:34.645 --> 0:57:36.885
<v Speaker 2>found it on the third try. There is a movie

0:57:37.445 --> 0:57:41.645
<v Speaker 2>from nineteen fifty four called Ulysses, and Ulysses, of course,

0:57:41.725 --> 0:57:46.005
<v Speaker 2>is the Latin version of Odysseus the Latin name, and

0:57:46.325 --> 0:57:49.765
<v Speaker 2>it is an Italian production, but an Italian Hollywood production.

0:57:50.605 --> 0:57:53.925
<v Speaker 2>So it's an Italian director by the name of Mario

0:57:54.205 --> 0:57:57.685
<v Speaker 2>Camerini Mario Bava, by the way, you mentioned him earlier.

0:57:57.765 --> 0:58:00.165
<v Speaker 2>He was involved in the production in some he did

0:58:00.165 --> 0:58:04.405
<v Speaker 2>some of the special effects. But it stars Kirk Douglas

0:58:04.445 --> 0:58:09.765
<v Speaker 2>as Odysseus slash Ulysses and Anthony Quinn as Antinous, who

0:58:09.805 --> 0:58:15.445
<v Speaker 2>is the Robert Pattinson character. And it's swashbuckling. It's pretty

0:58:15.565 --> 0:58:16.445
<v Speaker 2>damn good.

0:58:16.405 --> 0:58:20.085
<v Speaker 6>Marvel and the tremendous spectacle of the proaching more Ulysses

0:58:20.125 --> 0:58:22.845
<v Speaker 6>and his warriors bringing from the mammoth wooden horse to

0:58:22.925 --> 0:58:26.725
<v Speaker 6>overwhelm the walls of Troy. See Ulysses live his fantastic

0:58:26.725 --> 0:58:30.925
<v Speaker 6>adventures again film where they actually happened five thousand years ago,

0:58:31.565 --> 0:58:35.125
<v Speaker 6>The thousand and one Krills of Ulysses, the greatest of

0:58:35.165 --> 0:58:36.325
<v Speaker 6>all adventurers.

0:58:36.365 --> 0:58:39.965
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of commonalities with the Odyssey the New

0:58:39.965 --> 0:58:41.645
<v Speaker 2>One in terms of what they cover. I mean, the

0:58:42.885 --> 0:58:46.565
<v Speaker 2>Cyclopsis cage, you know, Penelope at the loom, Telemachus being

0:58:46.605 --> 0:58:49.125
<v Speaker 2>a whiny little boy. It's all in there. But there's

0:58:49.165 --> 0:58:51.845
<v Speaker 2>also a lot of stuff that's in this movie that's

0:58:51.925 --> 0:58:55.525
<v Speaker 2>not in Nolan's version. Like there's a whole chapter in

0:58:55.565 --> 0:59:01.805
<v Speaker 2>the book about adventures on an Island with Nausica, and

0:59:01.925 --> 0:59:05.045
<v Speaker 2>Nausica is not in the Nolan version at all. And

0:59:05.125 --> 0:59:07.165
<v Speaker 2>Nasica is a big character in this and she's wearing

0:59:07.165 --> 0:59:10.485
<v Speaker 2>a very beautiful dress and whatnot. It's very alluring, So

0:59:10.765 --> 0:59:14.245
<v Speaker 2>I would say more so than Helen of Troy, which

0:59:14.325 --> 0:59:16.845
<v Speaker 2>does the movie version Helen of Troy by Robert Wise,

0:59:16.885 --> 0:59:19.245
<v Speaker 2>which does have the Trojan horse in it pretty prominently,

0:59:19.245 --> 0:59:21.605
<v Speaker 2>and that's a pretty cool scene. This has the Trojan

0:59:21.645 --> 0:59:23.645
<v Speaker 2>horse in it for just a moment or two. But

0:59:23.805 --> 0:59:27.245
<v Speaker 2>I gotta say I kind of dug this Italian ulysses.

0:59:27.365 --> 0:59:31.045
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, it's got the big poppy colors as

0:59:31.085 --> 0:59:32.845
<v Speaker 2>with the Hercules film. I guess that was how they

0:59:32.845 --> 0:59:36.165
<v Speaker 2>did it in Italy back then. And you know, because

0:59:36.245 --> 0:59:38.285
<v Speaker 2>Nolan's version is a little washed out at times. There's

0:59:38.285 --> 0:59:41.165
<v Speaker 2>a lot of whites and grays and tans and whatnot,

0:59:41.205 --> 0:59:44.645
<v Speaker 2>and this has got poppy color. But what's funny is

0:59:44.685 --> 0:59:47.165
<v Speaker 2>that because it was an Italian film of the era,

0:59:47.725 --> 0:59:50.325
<v Speaker 2>the actors just spoke the language that they spoke in

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<v Speaker 2>real life, and they dubbed it all after and that's

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<v Speaker 2>how it was done back then. There were two streamable

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<v Speaker 2>versions of this Ulysses that I found, and the first

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<v Speaker 2>one was on Tube, which we love, right. We talked

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<v Speaker 2>about two be a couple weeks ago. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>all in Italian with subtitles including Kirk Douglas speaking Italian,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a very washed out, bleached out VHS

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, ah, this kind of looks not so hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see. It was also on Pluto TV. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me see what Pluto's version looked like. Udo's version was

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<v Speaker 2>also all Italian with subtitles, but the print was pristine.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would say, go to that one. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where the English dub is. I couldn't find it

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<v Speaker 2>for free anyhow. But Pluto, man did they slam dunk

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<v Speaker 2>on Tube with their with their Ulysses. Hats off to Tubby,

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<v Speaker 2>but I will hats off to Pluto. But Pluto has

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<v Speaker 2>more ads than Tube. I was getting pummeled by ads,

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was more than so there's no there's

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<v Speaker 2>no winning. You're gonna lose either way. But anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's my pick for like a good kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Ray Harry Housen was not involved, but it had that

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<v Speaker 2>Ray Harry Housen feel that clashed the Titans feel. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of these right wing bozos that wanted a more

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote traditional Odyssey. You know, maybe they would want

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<v Speaker 2>this because it's pure Hollywood schlock although Italian, but pure

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifties shlock of just like you know, all the

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<v Speaker 2>girls are got there, they're all you know, Oh it's

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<v Speaker 2>a man. A man watches up on shore. They're all giggly,

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<v Speaker 2>and the men are all a lot of wrestling too.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a scene where Ulysses and the man. It's slocky,

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<v Speaker 2>good fun. I liked it a lot, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>not an intellectual pursuit in the into the degree that

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<v Speaker 2>that the Odyssey was one funny thing was because it's Italian,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. And the movie is called Ulysses, which has

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with James Joyce obviously, but it used

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<v Speaker 2>all the Latin versions of things. So they didn't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it this he's to talk about Ulysses. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Poseidon, they talked about Neptune. But when it

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<v Speaker 2>came to Zeus and Zeus's law, they stuck with Zeus.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't change him to Jupiter or Jove, which I

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<v Speaker 2>thought was very funny. I was I wish I could

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<v Speaker 2>ask nobody from that made this movie is still with us,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, but I'm like, what's what was the thinking there?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you Latin all the Greeks except for Zeus

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<v Speaker 2>just because Zeus is a cool sounding word more than Jupiter.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but anyway, that's what's going on on

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<v Speaker 2>Pluto TV right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Give me back my men, goddess, demon wish or what

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<v Speaker 5>whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so let's recap here our rex Egg. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>we should acknowledge that we did also talk about our

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<v Speaker 3>favorite Nolan movies. The Prestige was on was on Peacock,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was also on Hulu. That was my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan's was Tenant, which is not streaming anywhere right now,

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<v Speaker 3>which is kind of bizarre, but you can rent it

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<v Speaker 3>for three bucks. You can rent it for three or

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<v Speaker 3>four bucks in a variety of places. And then, in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of our recommendations for the Odyssey supplemental viewing, I

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<v Speaker 3>recommended Hercules in the Haunted World. I found it on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's also available on Prime, Video Plex and Canopy,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Jordan went through a whole potpourrie of these

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<v Speaker 3>ancient Greek epics Helen of Troy, which he said stunk

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<v Speaker 3>on cood. Nostos the Return was on vod was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are numerous prints of Nostos the Return on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>and I clicked on one. It was kind of shoddy.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried a second one and it was much cleaner,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think people might find that intriguing. It's also

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<v Speaker 2>okay short, it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>And then ulysses the Kirk Douglas movie. You said the

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<v Speaker 3>best version you found was on Pluto, but also it

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<v Speaker 3>was on tub and it's also on vod. And if

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<v Speaker 3>people want to find out more about all of the

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<v Speaker 3>recommendations on this and every episode of SVU, we always

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<v Speaker 3>recommend go to letterboxed look for the list called now

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<v Speaker 3>Streaming on bazooga, the made up streaming service that we

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<v Speaker 3>coined on our first episode. We have a running list

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<v Speaker 3>that's curated and updated by the great Sam van Halgrin

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<v Speaker 3>of all the movies that we've recommended on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>If you click the read notes option, you can also

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<v Speaker 3>read what we said about all of them. Sam puts

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<v Speaker 3>in all of the pluses and minuses we say about

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<v Speaker 3>the movies, and I'll also tell you where we found them.

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<v Speaker 3>And we didn't do a personalized recommend recommendation this week.

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<v Speaker 3>We're trying to make a shorter episode. Ha, good luck

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<v Speaker 3>with that, but uh, we're gonna get back to that

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<v Speaker 3>on our next episode. If you want us to recommend

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<v Speaker 3>a title for you and you alone, you can send

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<v Speaker 3>us a note feedback at filmspotingsvu dot com. We will

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<v Speaker 3>we will give you a recommended something or other that

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<v Speaker 3>watch on streaming if you tell us what kind of

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<v Speaker 3>movie you're looking for and what kind of streaming services

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<v Speaker 3>you use.

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<v Speaker 9>Zouga when you gotta stream Buzzooga, it's cream of the crop.

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<v Speaker 9>It's right at the top of your favorite streamings.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, it's time for our weekly game here on

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<v Speaker 3>Film Spotting SVU. And after the drubbing three weeks in

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<v Speaker 3>a row, and I gave Jordan the former games mass

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<v Speaker 3>I know you cannot be defeated. Now he's on a

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<v Speaker 3>losing streak. He's like, I don't want to play anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hosting this week, so Jordan, you're in charge. What

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<v Speaker 3>is our game this week?

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<v Speaker 2>The game this week is called because it is Odyssey week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called My Big Fat Greek Film Spotting Game, My

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<v Speaker 2>Big Bets Film Spotting Game. And what it is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not that dissimilar from a game that I concocted several

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago related to the West Wing because we had

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<v Speaker 2>a movie with Alison Janney. The uh, I am going

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<v Speaker 2>to give clues to the name of a film that

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<v Speaker 2>has an actor or actress in the Odyssey in it.

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<v Speaker 2>The first person to get it based on the clues

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<v Speaker 2>will go at and you will have an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>win two points. You got to say the name of

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<v Speaker 2>the movie, and you got to say the performer and

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<v Speaker 2>who it is that you gotta say the performer that's

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<v Speaker 2>in the eye. So like, okay, if you fit you're

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<v Speaker 2>at the movie, but don't know who's in the Odyssey,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll only get one point and the other person gets

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to steal Okay, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So these are all movies starring people who are

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<v Speaker 3>also in the Odyssey.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, correct, So I'm gonna start name If.

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<v Speaker 3>I you say, and you said, if we know the

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<v Speaker 3>movie but not the actor, then we can answer for

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<v Speaker 3>one point, but the other person can get the other

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<v Speaker 3>point if they know the person.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, If you say, oh, I know that movie, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the Wizard of Us, but you've Jim Katta.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, then you don't know the actor. Then I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>that was Kurt Thomas, you moron.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. So there are going to be ten

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<v Speaker 2>of these, so there is the potential for somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>win twenty to zero, or you could each time.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that might just happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go. We're starting first on. It's all on

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<v Speaker 2>the my big fat Greek film Spotting SVU game.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good name.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, clue number one. This movie made nine hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars at the global box office.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not Jim Kata.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm moving on clue to. This movie is fourth in

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<v Speaker 2>a series of eight. Really, I thought that would have

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<v Speaker 2>done it. Okay, this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll throw it in there. I'll just say Avengers Endgames.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's there's only four Avengers? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I know what it is now? Shoot? Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 4>just thinking of.

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<v Speaker 3>How many clues are there here? Jordan, we got more?

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<v Speaker 3>We okay, keep going, keep them going, because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie co stars Shirley Henderson. This movie co stars

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<v Speaker 2>Timothy Spall.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, oh, okay, so it's the fourth one. Well, what's

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<v Speaker 3>that one called. It's Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Matt Singer gets one point.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Now, Rich, of the million people in that movie

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the million people in uh in this one?

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<v Speaker 2>Gee, that's the obvious person.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so obvious. I'm sure that everyone in the listener.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not rewatched this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Now went to three, and then Sam could still can

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<v Speaker 2>steal I can, I'll steal it?

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<v Speaker 3>Whow I'll let I can, I'll let I can look

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<v Speaker 3>at it, Sam, I don't know. I could guess, but

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<v Speaker 3>you just go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Pattinson.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, of course he plays what's his name, cric degree.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. I was not thinking of him, so I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have gotten it.

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<v Speaker 10>That's oh, there you go, all right, Robins, Pattinson's off

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<v Speaker 10>the board, or there might be.

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<v Speaker 2>I have yet to determine. I have yet to reveal

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not there can be repeats. Okay, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But Pattinson was the answer to number one. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, number two. This movie is distributed by twentieth

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<v Speaker 2>cent entry.

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<v Speaker 3>Fox, who would possibly get it based on that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that that that really is. Just to let you

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<v Speaker 2>know that this is X amount of years old because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not brand new. The twentieth century Fox doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got to be at least six years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you that now, now you get where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie is a streaming by twentieth century Fox. This

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<v Speaker 2>movie has a worldwide gross of four hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 2>two million dollars. This movie had its debut on The

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<v Speaker 2>Queen Mary two. This movie has music written by Bene

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<v Speaker 2>Pasic and Justin Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I greatest showhow.

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<v Speaker 3>The greatest zenda That doesn't make it?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>More importantly, why would you use that as a clue

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<v Speaker 3>if it makes no sense?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know them, Palace Production, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I found it was intriguing that they were watching Hugh

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<v Speaker 2>Jackman ride an elephant on the Queen Mary too. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that was kind of cool. Sam with the lead

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<v Speaker 2>three to one, Let's move on to clue number three.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie co stars Chuck Zito. This movie co stars

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<v Speaker 2>Adrian Pasdar. This movie co stars Vigo Mortensen. All Right,

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<v Speaker 2>this movie was written by David Kepp. What You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>know it? SAMs almost got it? All right, He's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get it on this one. This movie includes a sequence

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<v Speaker 2>that was shot on location at Grand Central Terminal in

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<v Speaker 2>New York City.

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<v Speaker 3>The one that I'm thinking of, I don't think Figo

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<v Speaker 3>was in.

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<v Speaker 2>Ego was not fall Time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh he was not famous at the time. Oh no, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>then it's definitely not the one I'm thinking of.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you need one more? You're gonna get it on

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<v Speaker 2>this one. This movie was directed by Brian de Palma.

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<v Speaker 3>Who what Brian DePalma movie has? Chuck Zito?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it Bonfire the Vanities?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Destroyed Matt. This movie has a sequence shot at Grand

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<v Speaker 2>Central Terminal in New York City.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, is it not the Is it the Untouchables?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Chicago both get a zero? You both get a zero.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie is Carlito's Way.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I haven't seen Carlito's Way in a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, It's so good. The last fifteen minutes is al

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<v Speaker 2>Pacino running around like a crazy person in Grand Central

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<v Speaker 2>and then he dies at the end. Spoiler and you

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<v Speaker 2>know who shoots him, Benny Blanco from The Bronx played

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<v Speaker 2>by John Leguizama.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I thought that you guys get the point,

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<v Speaker 2>gets the points. No one gets the points. All right, we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Moving always wins. Sorry, we're moving on.

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<v Speaker 2>Staying at three nothing you both fail at Carlito's Away

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<v Speaker 2>a Great Movie movie number four. This movie debuted at

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<v Speaker 2>the south By Southwest Film Festival. Clue number two. This

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<v Speaker 2>movie has co stars including Tim Highdecker Clue number three.

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<v Speaker 2>The last scene in the movie features the song Les

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<v Speaker 2>Fleurs by Minnie Ripperton.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna get is this is this? Us?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Good?

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<v Speaker 10>Okay from the movie Us is Ispita?

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<v Speaker 2>Good job Sam is killing Matt with five to one?

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<v Speaker 2>You got us on the mini Ripperton. Q. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's impressive.

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<v Speaker 10>It wasn't that, it was it was putting together the

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<v Speaker 10>I was. I was thinking because it was get Out

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<v Speaker 10>that debuted at Sundance, right, but it was yes, So

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<v Speaker 10>I was thinking of like the festival art for a

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<v Speaker 10>big movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, hideker, I remembered, Yeah, anyway, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh that's right, all right, we're moving on. We're

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<v Speaker 2>moving on now. This is actually one of these facts.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know about this movie. This movie has

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<v Speaker 2>original music by Marvin Hamlish, who I quite frankly thought

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<v Speaker 2>was dead by the time this movie came out, So

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<v Speaker 2>this might be his last name.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a clue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a clue. This movie co stars Melanie Lynsky.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I like made leon It's kay. Yeah, she good.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie co stars Scott Bakula, also known as Captain

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Archer of the Enterpris.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I got it.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, do it the informant? Yes, yes, Stephen Soderberg the

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<v Speaker 10>informant exclamation point, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. That was my That was my next clue.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie has has has punctuation in the title.

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<v Speaker 4>Who dat. It's a great movie. It's very good.

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<v Speaker 10>It's Soderbergh's last good movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Ropping bombs.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to consult the stats.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam just broke Zeus's law.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, okay, all right, Matt, you gotta start catching up.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is not I am not good at

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<v Speaker 3>like you know. These two random character actors appeared in

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<v Speaker 3>a film that premiered eight years ago at a film First,

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<v Speaker 3>If you tell me the name of the movie, I

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<v Speaker 3>could tell you who's in it.

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<v Speaker 10>But I remember I remember thinking, like, what is Bacula

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<v Speaker 10>doing in this movie?

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<v Speaker 3>I would not have remembered that. You have not seen

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<v Speaker 3>it since it came out.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked it.

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<v Speaker 10>But it makes sense that Sodaberg would go to Hamlets.

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<v Speaker 10>She'd want like this paranoid thriller's seventies kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good movie. Exclamation mark. I like it a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>We're moving on next. This movie debut at the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Film Festival PLU too. This movie has cinematography by

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<v Speaker 2>the great Darius Kanji who number three. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>many producers slash executive producer of this film is Brad

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<v Speaker 2>Pitt hmmm, who number four. This movie is based in

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<v Speaker 2>a book by David gran.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh oh, oh oh.

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<v Speaker 2>We're both making the I know it face. I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>your face.

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<v Speaker 3>What was thatta movie?

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<v Speaker 2>This movie has co stars including Sianna Miller.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh oh uh oh wait there could be more

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<v Speaker 3>than one, couldn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie has co stars including Robert Pattinson. Ironically enough, yes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the name of it?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Do it? It's the Lost City of z That's right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's right, say it.

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<v Speaker 2>British though the Lost City of zed Matt's back Lost

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<v Speaker 2>City of z Okay from the Lost City of z

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<v Speaker 2>is in the Odyssey.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Tom Holland.

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<v Speaker 2>Is very good. I didn't know that until I started

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<v Speaker 2>putting this game together. I didn't know Tom Holland at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I guess he plays probably the Sun.

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<v Speaker 3>He plays, he plays, But who is?

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<v Speaker 4>Why am I blanking on who?

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<v Speaker 10>Because Pattinson's like the helper, He's like he's a second banana.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Hunhum. Charlie Hunhum is the least.

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<v Speaker 10>So I was never going to come up with hun Hum.

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<v Speaker 10>So Collin plays Hunham's son young or see the young

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<v Speaker 10>version of Hunhum. Maybe because they're like the dad goes

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<v Speaker 10>on the Anyway, I read the book, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>See the movie. I couldn't believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the movie is great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he's the Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the Telemachus. For sure. We're moving on and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's five seven to three.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not I mean, I'm not gonna win, but at

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<v Speaker 3>least at least I made it a little more interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Next. This movie was written and directed by Woody Allen,

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<v Speaker 2>which there's a lot of people in the Odyssey who

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<v Speaker 2>are in a Woody Allen movie, so that doesn't nail

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<v Speaker 2>it down too much. Woody Allen's character in the film

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<v Speaker 2>is named C. W. Briggs.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I know which, but okay, well which I think

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<v Speaker 3>I know what movie that was?

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<v Speaker 2>But this movie was set in the nineteen forties.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know the movie. It's the Curse of the

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<v Speaker 3>Jade Scorpion, right, correct? But which from this movie? But

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<v Speaker 3>from the Odyssey was in it? Who was was Charlie's

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<v Speaker 3>in that movie?

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<v Speaker 4>She was?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that your final answer?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean you're nodding, so I guess it is Charlie's.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Charlee's was into Woody Allen movies. She was in

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<v Speaker 2>Celebrity and she was in The Curse the Jade Scorpion.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that The Curse of the Jade Scorpion is probably

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<v Speaker 2>Woody Allen's worst film. It's it's it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not very unwatchable.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's some funny that I did watch on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a pretty funny scene between he and Charlie's.

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<v Speaker 2>She's playing sexy Veronica Lake. She's in high heels powering

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<v Speaker 2>over him and he's like, excuse me, maybe we could

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<v Speaker 2>you know he's doing that shtick. It's it's pretty, it's pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Not so's it's bad. It's pretty bad. But anyway, Charlie's

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<v Speaker 2>is in it. Matt, suddenly you're it's seven to five.

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<v Speaker 3>At least it's a game.

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<v Speaker 4>Questions are.

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<v Speaker 2>More? Next up? Next up? This movie is in black

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<v Speaker 2>and White. M This movie is based on a true story.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie was released by the Weinstein Company. Okay, Max,

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<v Speaker 2>the Weinstein Company. This movie is based on the story

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<v Speaker 2>of a rock musician.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, not what I was thinking of?

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<v Speaker 2>Black and white?

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<v Speaker 3>Black and white?

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<v Speaker 4>This one sounds gonna get I'm just trying to come

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<v Speaker 4>up with the name of it. I think I got

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<v Speaker 4>it it control.

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<v Speaker 2>Control, Lost Control? Who is?

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know who was in that?

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<v Speaker 4>Me neither?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Who didn't we touch yet? In that?

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't we mentioned in Control?

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<v Speaker 2>She's lost control? Three two one?

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<v Speaker 4>Idea mat incorrect?

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<v Speaker 2>Matt, try to steal it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think who we haven't mentioned? That seems

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<v Speaker 3>the most likely. Mia Goth was a good guest. What

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<v Speaker 3>about Logan Marshall Green? Was he in Control?

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<v Speaker 2>Incorrect? The answer is Samantha Morton. She actually played the

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<v Speaker 2>main character. The main character is he in Curtis, But

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<v Speaker 2>it's all from her point of view of the movies,

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<v Speaker 2>based on her on her memoir of her dead husband. So,

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<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, Samantha Morton.

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<v Speaker 4>So can I tell you Logan Marshall Green, my roommate

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<v Speaker 4>during a college program I did at the National Theater

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<v Speaker 4>Institute at the Eugene Oial.

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<v Speaker 3>Theater, constantly confuse him with Tom Holland.

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<v Speaker 10>When you were his roommate, I could tell you that

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<v Speaker 10>the fact that he became a movie actor, a very

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<v Speaker 10>a handsome movie actor, did not surprise me.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>The chrismo was there from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>He had it, uh Samantha Morton. Of course, also in

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<v Speaker 2>woodyowm movie, she was in Sweet and Lowdown terrific in that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Next up, We've got two more. It's still a game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still a game here. Next up Clue number one.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie is set in Germany. Clue number two. This

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<v Speaker 2>movie has original music by Tom York, not Radiohead, but

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<v Speaker 2>Tom York. Number three. This movie is a remake. Not

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<v Speaker 2>yet Okay. This movie has co stars that include Chloe

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<v Speaker 2>Grace Moretz. Not yet this movie has co stars that

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<v Speaker 2>include Dakota Johnson. Remake Germany Tom York one more. This

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<v Speaker 2>movie has co stars that include till the Swinton. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the big blank, the big blank on this remake Germany?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this Suspiria?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that Your answer is Suspiria? Is your answer? Still?

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<v Speaker 2>You are correct? This is the Suspiria? Very good? Who

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<v Speaker 2>in Suspiria is in the Odyssey? I?

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<v Speaker 4>Who haven't we mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>There is Suspiria set? I think logically here what? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all at a what type of place?

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<v Speaker 4>Like a like the dance studio thing? But yeah, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of with the witch, the witches and the dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the dancing, the young girl and who would have

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<v Speaker 2>been very young when this came out, Chloe Grace Moretz,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it Matt You got to steal it? In three

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<v Speaker 2>two one? Give me a name? The answer is me

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<v Speaker 2>a goth.

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<v Speaker 4>You said her last God be a go I'd crossed

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<v Speaker 4>her off my list.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I didn't know she was in either. She

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<v Speaker 2>had yet to really make it. She's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>girls in the dance academy. All right, last one, last one,

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<v Speaker 2>and this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is tough, but this is the last question.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the last one.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wink, but you can for Pride You Might

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<v Speaker 2>number one. This movie debut at the Venice Film Festival.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two. The director of this movie is Hungarian number three.

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<v Speaker 2>The co stars include Sarah Snook number four. This movie

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<v Speaker 2>includes a twenty four minute uninterrupted take next clue. That

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<v Speaker 2>take is twenty four minutes and very difficult to watch

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<v Speaker 2>as it involves a great deal of pained howling. The

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<v Speaker 2>lead actress of this film was nominated for an Academy

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<v Speaker 2>Award for the role in this film. Huh That lead

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<v Speaker 2>actress's name is Vanessa Kirby. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, don't

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<v Speaker 2>you remember she made him?

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<v Speaker 4>I remember this movie.

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<v Speaker 10>I just I don't think I'm I don't think I'm

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<v Speaker 10>going to come up with the title. I do know

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<v Speaker 10>what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>I still blanking on what.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie also co stars Shia Labouf.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never that that trend. That wouldn't help me at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out of clues now. So the movie is called

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<v Speaker 2>Pieces of a Woman. Okay, remember, and she has she

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<v Speaker 2>has a miscarriage.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she's in the movie. So that was the

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<v Speaker 2>movie she got nominee for an Oscar.

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<v Speaker 10>I thought that and somebody else that was in The

1:23:47.605 --> 1:23:49.525
<v Speaker 10>Odyssey is also can.

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<v Speaker 2>You I'm gonna let you try to steal the first

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<v Speaker 2>person who can throw out a name at me, someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's not Shia Laboof or Vanessakrby.

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't we mentioned all right, you got three. There's no way.

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<v Speaker 3>Anne Hathaway is not in it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not in Hathaway. Sam, you could steal it.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Irwin showed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Benny safty I did not know that he was in it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he is. And the movie I did watch, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's upsetting.

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<v Speaker 3>And I never saw this movie. You would.

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<v Speaker 2>It's She's She deserved her Academy Award nomination for playing

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<v Speaker 2>a difficult role. But the movie is not that great

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<v Speaker 2>in total. And Benny Saftie's in it, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>he plays King Agamemnon, the Darth Vader of Accrease in

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<v Speaker 2>the Odyssey. The winner of the game is Sam by

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<v Speaker 2>a wide origin.

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<v Speaker 3>Well done, Sam, nine to five.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd beat eleven when the synapses are firing.

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<v Speaker 3>This was not my area of expertise.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, next time we'll do it differently. So

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<v Speaker 2>there you go. Sam's the winner. And now it's time

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<v Speaker 2>on the show to wrap things up by mentioning what's

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<v Speaker 2>coming new to streaming? Hey, Matt, you want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>the listeners what's coming new?

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<v Speaker 3>For some theatrical releases that are now available to rent

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<v Speaker 3>or buy, we have the new Demon Slayer movie, the

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<v Speaker 3>anime film which made one hundred and thirty six million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars globally in theaters. It's available on vod and on

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<v Speaker 3>crunchy roll. And then we also have Leviticus. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>see this one? Jordan? And I haven't seen it yet.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the trailer and I know what it is,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Two teenage boys must escape a violent entity that takes

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<v Speaker 3>the form of the person they desire most each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't seen it, haven't heard a lot about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It came out like right in between Obsession and back Rooms,

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<v Speaker 2>and it did not achieve the financial success of either

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<v Speaker 2>of those two films, obviously, but I do know that

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<v Speaker 2>it exists.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, all of these those titles are available the

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<v Speaker 3>day this show is live, which is Tuesday, July twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 3>Also available. These are theatrical releases that are now on streaming,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have seen most of these. First up, the

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<v Speaker 3>big budget live action reboot of Masters of the Universe,

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<v Speaker 3>which is going to be on thank You, which is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be on Prime Video. I didn't think this

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<v Speaker 3>was It was a stinker. I didn't think that was

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<v Speaker 3>very good made. The movie almost made. Honestly, this movie

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<v Speaker 3>that made me a little angry. I felt slightly insulted

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<v Speaker 3>by this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be I didn't go. I wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't make it. And the next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it had already been out two or three weeks, and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody said, don't bother. I think even you said don't

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<v Speaker 2>bother watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you asked me, I would have said

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<v Speaker 3>don't bother because I didn't like it. Some people liked it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a little baffled by that. But yes, you

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<v Speaker 3>can watch it on Prime Video. If you already have

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<v Speaker 3>Prime you it won't cost you anything except your time.

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<v Speaker 3>Also on streaming, a theatrical release of the spring Mortal

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<v Speaker 3>Kombat two streaming on HBO Max. Did you see Mortal

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<v Speaker 3>Kombat too.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan, I don't think I did. No, I don't like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a recent what's the other Mortal? I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the Mortal Kombat right before this one, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix debut. I think it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was on HBO Max also, was that what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, not my thing, Okay, I didn't see it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I would pass on that one as well. But here's

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<v Speaker 3>one that I did enjoy, The Devil Wears Prada too.

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<v Speaker 3>She's gonna be streaming on Hulu. This is I thought

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<v Speaker 3>about as good as any sequel to this movie could

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<v Speaker 3>have possibly been. I it greatly exceeded my expectations. It

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<v Speaker 3>was funny, it was about something, it was about the media,

1:27:36.965 --> 1:27:40.685
<v Speaker 3>it was about the internet. It's about the death of

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<v Speaker 3>the media, and also a romantic comedy and also lots

1:27:45.645 --> 1:27:50.205
<v Speaker 3>of great costumes and fashion, and also Meryl Streep is

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<v Speaker 3>really great in it. I liked it. Did you see

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<v Speaker 3>the Devil Wears product too? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the first one though, all right, let's move

1:27:56.365 --> 1:27:56.645
<v Speaker 2>on then.

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<v Speaker 3>And finally, Jody Foster in a French language film, This

1:28:00.605 --> 1:28:03.445
<v Speaker 3>one I have not seen. Oh a Private Life.

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<v Speaker 2>Great movie, great, great, yeah, very good, very really well.

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<v Speaker 2>This was how We're Downbrated to very good, it's damn good.

1:28:11.325 --> 1:28:14.804
<v Speaker 2>And this one to damn good but not great. Written

1:28:14.805 --> 1:28:18.924
<v Speaker 2>and directed by Rebecca Zlatowski who makes nothing but bangers.

1:28:18.925 --> 1:28:20.925
<v Speaker 2>She makes these movies that not a lot of people see,

1:28:21.045 --> 1:28:25.245
<v Speaker 2>and they're all really really good. And this one's coming

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<v Speaker 2>directly to Netflix. And one of her earlier films, which

1:28:28.045 --> 1:28:32.884
<v Speaker 2>is called an Easy Girl on Field Facille off Fansel,

1:28:33.565 --> 1:28:35.644
<v Speaker 2>is also on Netflix. She made a movie called Other

1:28:35.685 --> 1:28:38.325
<v Speaker 2>People's Children, which is phenomenal. She made a really good

1:28:38.325 --> 1:28:42.405
<v Speaker 2>movie called Planetarium with one Natalie Portman, and another really

1:28:42.445 --> 1:28:45.365
<v Speaker 2>good movie called Grand Central. I was maybe like fifteen

1:28:45.405 --> 1:28:48.725
<v Speaker 2>years ago, or so I am a Stan, I Am

1:28:48.765 --> 1:28:53.165
<v Speaker 2>a Rebecca is Latowski Stan, and I a Private Life House.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be streaming on Netflix. All those titles

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<v Speaker 3>are gonna be available on Friday the twenty ninth. And

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of things going to direct to streaming, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't got nothing. We got nothing. There's nothing really of

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<v Speaker 3>note to discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a short, it's a it's a mellow week, which

1:29:09.845 --> 1:29:12.765
<v Speaker 2>is good because next week we're taking the week off

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<v Speaker 2>right because.

1:29:13.645 --> 1:29:16.805
<v Speaker 3>We're going on summer vacation for one week. And go

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<v Speaker 3>back and re listen to an old episode you might

1:29:19.325 --> 1:29:23.564
<v Speaker 3>have missed. Go listen into the origin of Bazooga, find

1:29:23.565 --> 1:29:27.764
<v Speaker 3>out how it started. Find out how Screaming rex Egg started.

1:29:28.205 --> 1:29:40.085
<v Speaker 3>If you're a late comer. It's the cream, So go

1:29:40.165 --> 1:29:41.885
<v Speaker 3>back and check an old episode. We'll be back in

1:29:41.965 --> 1:29:44.325
<v Speaker 3>two weeks. We're discussing. It's not definite, but we were

1:29:44.365 --> 1:29:46.045
<v Speaker 3>thinking because in two weeks there is a there is

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<v Speaker 3>a notable title to discuss on Netflix, Louis Letterier, who

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<v Speaker 3>I think Jordan may know as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know what's the what's the.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a film called The Last House with Grete

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<v Speaker 3>Lee and Wagner Mora.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the codes of if we If if this

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<v Speaker 2>were podcasts being distributed by The New York Times, I

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<v Speaker 2>would not be allowed to review it because I'm friendly

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<v Speaker 2>with Louis Lataria.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a conflict of interest.

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<v Speaker 2>To conflict of interest, but I think maybe we can just.

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<v Speaker 3>If you acknowledge it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody gives. It's not like I have

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<v Speaker 2>hot dogs with him every week. I just know I

1:30:20.485 --> 1:30:22.805
<v Speaker 2>went to college them, so we're old pals, all right,

1:30:23.005 --> 1:30:24.564
<v Speaker 2>and we keep in touch a little bit. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it already. It's good. I think it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's good, so hopefully you'll like it too. There, I

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<v Speaker 2>just spoiled my conflict of interest. I just if I

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<v Speaker 2>hated it. I would we wouldn't be doing it, let's

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<v Speaker 2>put it that way. But luckily I liked it. So

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<v Speaker 2>what we're going to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're thinking about that. That's a possibility. That is streaming

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<v Speaker 3>on Netflix on August seventh, so we'll see in two

1:30:41.765 --> 1:30:44.604
<v Speaker 3>weeks if it's that or maybe we'll be doing something

1:30:44.605 --> 1:30:48.365
<v Speaker 3>else in the meantime. You can send all your feedback,

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<v Speaker 3>social media. We're on Instagram, I'm at Superpulse on Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>and Letterboxed. Jordan is also on Letterboxed. We're both also

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<v Speaker 3>on Blue Sky at Matt Singer at Jay Hoffman Jordan.

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<v Speaker 3>You can also listen to is there a new episode

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<v Speaker 3>of the star Log podcast next week?

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<v Speaker 2>There's always a new episode of the Starlog podcast. We

1:31:17.245 --> 1:31:20.085
<v Speaker 2>got some good people lined up for that guest wise,

1:31:20.165 --> 1:31:22.525
<v Speaker 2>so listen to the star Log Podcast where you can.

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<v Speaker 2>I should also point out that, of course this episode

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<v Speaker 2>of SVU is produced by Sam van Halgren. He's doing

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<v Speaker 2>his best putting in all the sound effects, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to say in all sincerity. Thank you to

1:31:33.205 --> 1:31:35.925
<v Speaker 2>the listeners. You know, we do get nice emails from

1:31:35.925 --> 1:31:38.564
<v Speaker 2>people who actually bother to listen to ourselves. Actually I

1:31:38.605 --> 1:31:41.804
<v Speaker 2>find staggering. I mean, I know you're stuck in traffic,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know you got nothing else to do, But

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<v Speaker 2>I am quite pleased that anybody would bother to listen

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<v Speaker 2>those of you that are walking your dog. You're stuck

1:31:49.525 --> 1:31:53.085
<v Speaker 2>in traffic, you're trying to do your worship, but doing

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<v Speaker 2>the dishes, laundry, adoring your work, pretending to be filling

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<v Speaker 2>out those reports instead of listening to.

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<v Speaker 3>The snoring your children.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. You're doing the right thing by listening to SVU.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for doing it. The most of the listener

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<v Speaker 2>feedback is positive, so so far, so good.

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<v Speaker 3>I like when they remind you that you said reducks

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<v Speaker 3>reducts wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the most emails they got, the most emails about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I pronounced it redo instead of reducks. And I'll never ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Live it and you'll never live it down. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Matt Singer and I'm Jordan Hoffmann. Thanks for listening.