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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com.

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Speaker 2: Zach is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Julia.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call her and see

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Speaker 2: if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him. But first

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Speaker 2: that how long has it been since you went out

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Speaker 2: with Julia?

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Speaker 3: It was about two weeks ago we went out on date.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it has been two weeks since to talk to.

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Speaker 3: You, Yeah, those have been two weeks since she talk

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, have you tried to talk to her?

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Speaker 3: I did try, and you know, I sent her some

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Speaker 3: messages and at one point I sent her a picture

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Speaker 3: you know, that I took of her eating you know,

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Speaker 3: some tiray sue that you know, from our date. And

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Speaker 3: she didn't respond to that whatsoever. Oh, I know, it

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Speaker 3: was a cute picture.

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Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about the date.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we went out for dinner at this

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Speaker 3: cool little Italian spot. It was you know, really great

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Speaker 3: food and great wine and the conversation was flowing. You know. Uh,

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Speaker 3: it's actually one of the best first dates I've ever

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Speaker 3: been in and when we sat down, she looked at

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Speaker 3: me right away and asked the kids and she asked,

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Speaker 3: like if my kids are right away as soon as

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Speaker 3: we sat down, and she said she wanted to get

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Speaker 3: the nerves, like an anticipation out of the way right

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Speaker 3: away like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: I loved how bold she was and I, you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of calmed everyone's nerves. I felt like it was

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Speaker 3: I think I felt like I knew her forever. You know.

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Speaker 3: It was one of those moments. So it's like, oh well,

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Speaker 3: and then you know, after that, we went to this

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Speaker 3: dessert cafe that my family's, like my friend's family owns,

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Speaker 3: and they gave us a tour and that's where I

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Speaker 3: had to tear me too, Like we were in the

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Speaker 3: back kitchen and there. Yeah, it was fun and my

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Speaker 3: my friend's family thought she was a doll. And we

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Speaker 3: kissed again there, so this was like a second time.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, she's going into me.

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Speaker 1: She see you again or did you like grab her

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Speaker 1: and have a moment.

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Speaker 3: She kissed me. I don't know. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: she's this is second time, and I know she seems

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Speaker 3: really she's so smart and she's really funny. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just kind of think she's great. I don't really

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Speaker 3: what happened.

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Speaker 1: You know, Well, why do you think she's ghosting you?

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Speaker 3: Well, there was one moment I keep coming back to.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is it, but I don't

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Speaker 3: know if she thinks I'm a pervert. I was just

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Speaker 3: kind of like zoning out what I was kind of

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Speaker 3: zoning out at one point, and it will think I

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Speaker 3: was staring at her cleavage, but I wasn't. I was

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Speaker 3: just kind of like zoning out and looking down.

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Speaker 1: Okay, did she notice that you were doing that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: She called me out on it and we laughed, and

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Speaker 3: I think she understood I wasn't staring.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because you were zoning out while she was talking.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I just ziled out for a second,

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Speaker 3: staring at like you know.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like an awkward moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it was. It was.

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Speaker 1: But was this after the kisses? Are before?

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Speaker 3: This was in between kisses? Oh?

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Speaker 1: So she kissed your after that? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wouldn't think it would be that. But

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Speaker 2: what we can see Zach is on the phone, and

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Speaker 2: Zach is getting ghosted by Julius. So we're about to

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Speaker 2: call her and see if she'll tell us why she's

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Speaker 2: ghosting him and maybe get him a second date if

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Speaker 2: he wants one. But first, Zach, why don't you recap

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Speaker 2: your date again real quick?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I went out to dinner with her, and

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Speaker 3: it was like our first date, and I was saying,

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Speaker 3: she kissed me right away when we sat down, so

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Speaker 3: she said she wanted to get on our kind of

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Speaker 3: nerves out of the way, and that was great, and

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Speaker 3: it's this great time. And then we went to like

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Speaker 3: my friends family's cafe and we able to hear the

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Speaker 3: two in the back room, and then she kissed me

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Speaker 3: a second time back then, so I was thinking of, like,

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Speaker 3: we kissed twice, things are going great. And this is

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Speaker 3: two weeks ago, and I've sent her messages. I even

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Speaker 3: sent her a couple of days ago. I sent her

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Speaker 3: a message even of the picture I took of her

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Speaker 3: eating Jeremy Sue, and she again, she still hasn't responded.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So well you're ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, I speak to Julia. Please.

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Speaker 5: This is she.

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Speaker 1: Hey Julia, how are you? This is a radio show

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Speaker 1: it's called The Jubil Show. Hi, Julia, I'm Nina.

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Speaker 5: Hi, I'm Victoria and.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jubil. How are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm good? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Hello?

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever listened to the show before?

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Speaker 5: I think my aunt had it in the car once,

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Speaker 5: but I don't listen regularly.

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Speaker 1: No, okay, well we have a cool aunt. Yeah you do.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we do a segment.

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Speaker 2: No you didn't. Well, I don't know. You might have,

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Speaker 2: depends how you look at it. We do a segment

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Speaker 2: on the show called the First Date follow Up. That's

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Speaker 2: where if you go on a date with somebody and

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Speaker 2: you're getting ghosted, you can email us to call the

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Speaker 2: person and find out why you're getting ghosted. We got

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Speaker 2: an email about you from somebody.

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Speaker 1: Are you ghosting somebody?

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Speaker 5: Oh no, it's definitely Zach.

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Speaker 3: Right. Did he email you? Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: He told us about your date, said he really liked you.

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Speaker 3: But then.

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Speaker 1: You haven't called him and it's been two weeks now,

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Speaker 1: and Zach is wondering what he did, like you guys

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Speaker 1: kissing everything.

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Speaker 5: He okay, it's not really his fall. He just I

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Speaker 5: this is gonna sound crazy, but he walks like my

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Speaker 5: ex like exactly like him. Yeah, and I just that's

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Speaker 5: why I'm go seeing.

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Speaker 1: Him because he walks like you.

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Speaker 5: Well, he just has this like I think I have

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Speaker 5: swag kind of strut, and it just gave me the

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Speaker 5: major ick.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I could barely kiss him on the date, like the

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Speaker 5: date was going well, I just I just I just

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Speaker 5: needed to get out of there. It was kind of triggering.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you kiss him like twice?

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Speaker 5: Well yeah, but like I don't know, like when you

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Speaker 5: see the exact same kind of behavior in somebody that

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Speaker 5: you were with for so many years and then you

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Speaker 5: see it again, it's just I couldn't. I can't be

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Speaker 5: around it, Like I had to get out of there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, wait wait wait waits not.

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Speaker 5: Happening on the phone. Yeah oh my god, what.

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 5: I I did do that. I did and I just couldn't.

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Speaker 5: I can't do it, Zach, I'm sorry. Like once I

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Speaker 5: saw your swagger, I could not unsee it. Like the

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Speaker 5: first time, I liked it.

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Speaker 4: I like the dinner was fun, but honestly, the cheremisue

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Speaker 4: was a struggle because you walked ahead of me to

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Speaker 4: like run to get the door.

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Speaker 5: I almost threw up in that moment. Literally, I just

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but it was.

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Speaker 4: The second kiss was kind of like a pity kiss

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Speaker 4: at that point, I was just trying to get out of.

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Speaker 3: There, you know, But no, no I could. I could

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Speaker 3: change how I walk, all right, A pity? Are you

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Speaker 3: serious that? Are you serious with the submar.

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Speaker 4: I'm serious, like that sounds crazy. You can't change how

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Speaker 4: you walk. I'm really sorry, but I can't unsee it.

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Speaker 4: What's done is like just done. You know at this point,

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Speaker 4: I look, don't. I had a great time half the time.

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Speaker 5: You wait to sing, do my hair.

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Speaker 3: You ran your finish to my hair. The second time

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Speaker 3: we kissed, and you held my faith and you made

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Speaker 3: it passionate. I don't feel like it was pity. I

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Speaker 3: don't believe you.

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Speaker 5: I would believe it. I mean, at this point, your

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Speaker 5: walk just given me the ick. I can't do it.

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Speaker 1: I can't, I can't.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry my walk. You told me you wanted to

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Speaker 3: show me all of your tattoos. That doesn't sound like that.

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Speaker 3: That's flirting. That's called flirting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but like then, it's like I had it in

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Speaker 5: my head. And then my stupid ex texted me that

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Speaker 5: night too, so I went took up with him and

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Speaker 5: he's stolen idiot. Yeah, I mean complicated.

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Speaker 1: Did you say that you called your.

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Speaker 5: Him after the moment of weakness. Yes, he was kind

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Speaker 5: of hot and then the walk and I was.

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Speaker 4: Like gross, but maybe, like my ex is not as

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Speaker 4: dumb as I thought he was, and he's really stupid.

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Speaker 5: It's just not good.

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Speaker 3: I'm done.

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Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. Look, Zach, I'm sorry. I hope you

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Speaker 5: find someone that loved your walk.

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Speaker 1: So like you're trying not to have feelings for your

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Speaker 1: ex whole time, and then Zach just triggers.

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Speaker 2: You hooked up with your ex after going on a

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Speaker 2: date with Zach because he walked like your ex and

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Speaker 2: probably reminded her of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of like emotions and like I know,

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Speaker 4: it sounds kind of psychosexual.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I get it. I look at Zach.

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Speaker 4: I think you're great and you're going to find someone

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Speaker 4: who loves your walk. Okay, maybe in a different time.

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Speaker 3: What I'm hearing here is you used me to red

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Speaker 3: yourself up to see your ex again.

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Speaker 5: Look, I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't intentional. I mean I did not do I

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Speaker 5: did not do that. I I was non and then disgusted,

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Speaker 5: And then he texted me and I texted him back.

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Speaker 5: And we've haven't even decided if we were dating yet,

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Speaker 5: and you don't get to tell.

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Speaker 4: Me who I can.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry, Accept my apology. Okay, I don't want

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Speaker 5: to go out with you and you have nothing to

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Speaker 5: do with you, literally.

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Speaker 1: Julia, would you like a second day with Zach? Will

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Speaker 1: pay for it, No

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Speaker 5: Jewbles, dirty little secret.