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Speaker 3: What's the blueprint to make money in a podcast? Let's

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Speaker 3: get to this. We can say our blueprint if you're interested, But.

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Speaker 4: What's your blueprint?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 5: So, niggas, I look here, I look at podcasting as

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Speaker 5: like a bully pulpit to build your your reputation, to

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Speaker 5: build you your name, to build trust. So you it's

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Speaker 5: the easy ways to make money of course is on

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Speaker 5: the audio side, Apple and Spotify from audio ads, and

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Speaker 5: then you know YouTube, you get paid from assence.

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Speaker 3: That's you know, it's kind of like low hanging fruit.

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Speaker 5: But then from there, for us, the live event space

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Speaker 4: No, that's you all, that's all bad right there?

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Speaker 5: You know, this talk of a paywall, I want to

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Speaker 5: talk to you about Patreon, A lot of creators are trying.

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Speaker 5: Up because a lot a lot of creators are trying

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Speaker 5: content that's paid for. So like the Patreons, good luck.

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Speaker 5: But it depends on what space is. So it's like

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Speaker 5: for us, we're in an education space.

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Speaker 4: So don't pitch me to death right now.

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Speaker 3: No, you asked me education.

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Speaker 7: Ask me down your fucking pr little tablet. In the

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Speaker 7: education space and the life touring space w w me,

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Speaker 7: I know what your niggas is out of here.

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Speaker 5: Right. Then you can through merch you can do collaborations,

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Speaker 3: What's your revenue model?

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Speaker 6: One last part of the revenue model is that we

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Speaker 6: based on the information, we could look at it and

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Speaker 4: We should do that business. In fact, you should help

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Speaker 4: us do this business. Shark tank. Pretty much it becomes

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Speaker 4: that that's that's a good way to do it, though

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Speaker 4: it's another way like that. All right, what do you

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Speaker 5: What's the revenue? What's the revenue model for podcasting? One

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Speaker 5: on one, Professor Joe Biden is teaching.

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Speaker 4: Well, we also are in the educational We like to.

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Speaker 4: Can you do it? In that voice?

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Speaker 6: This is because you got like we always talk about

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Speaker 3: This is what the people want to know. This is

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Speaker 5: And a lot of people have not figured out how

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Speaker 4: We said, what.

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Speaker 3: Do we say about good?

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Speaker 3: We're talking about why is that good?

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Speaker 7: How he showed it? You just said an action. Huh,

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Speaker 4: Because some of the beer basics. You gotta know. If

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Speaker 7: in the water. No, because that's what happened. All of

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Speaker 4: Edit my roaches.

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Speaker 7: All of these fucking insects came in here right said

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Speaker 7: Sold y'all asked for chocolate chip cookies. That's what y'all did. Yes,

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Speaker 7: So then the companies put their pants on and they

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Speaker 7: how's everybody making money?

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Speaker 7: Only the niggas that figured out and had some balls

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Speaker 7: So if you niggas got talking out, Oh no, would

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Speaker 4: Which one you No, I'm not sharing none with him?

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Speaker 7: You microwave manufacturers have come here, and now I got

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Speaker 6: We gave twenty people that deals while we giving you

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Speaker 6: got that. But let's talk about that then, because and

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Speaker 7: Might be able to come to the gun through unity.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly why I wanted to go with you, because,

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Speaker 4: Do you think of this deal?

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Speaker 6: We're looking at it like that's what you really do,

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Speaker 6: Like did you know? Did you know the business bond this?

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Speaker 6: And I feel like nobody shares the information, which leads

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Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

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Speaker 7: Because that is a mess. Take it to your trusted

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Speaker 5: every podcast well you know top podcast is in a

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Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, So do you think

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Speaker 7: Would be beneficial? But I mean, you're right, I learned

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Speaker 7: the information. The people that's up up, they just give it.

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Speaker 7: They just willingly give the information. But when it's that fight,

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Speaker 7: It's a lot of ego and pride involved. I ran

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Speaker 7: around for three years saying, hey, I think my deal's up.

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Speaker 7: so we are aware. It's three different I did that

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Speaker 7: end up being what all the niggas I did it with?

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Speaker 4: We end up with every single person that I did

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Speaker 4: that with, save exact thing. But we haven't beached with them.

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Speaker 6: But they're looking at us like, wow, you guys are

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Speaker 6: sharing all this information Like wait, I'm glad I know

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Speaker 6: this now.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, did you sign this yet?

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Speaker 6: Like we're about to we're about to renegotiate, but again,

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Speaker 6: we just don't know, right.

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Speaker 4: Like I can't I can't help if I don't know.

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Speaker 6: And then when, like you said, when we go to

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Speaker 6: the negotiating table, the company knows because they're looking at

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Speaker 6: the deal. It's like, okay, well if we give them this,

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Speaker 6: then everybody else is worth this. And it's only a

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Speaker 6: few Like how many how many profitable shows you think

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Speaker 4: And which space? Five? Five or less? Five?

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Speaker 5: That's less less? That's crazy. That's when you say profitable, what.

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Speaker 6: Like a dollar a million dollar, Like that's that's a

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Speaker 6: relative million. Let's say let's put budget them in the

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Speaker 6: net yes, you think show you five?

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Speaker 7: I'm excluding the television shows that have made themselves podcasts. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: not on the news shows that have made themselves part

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Speaker 4: It's none a lot. No. Wow. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: Well, this is why, and this is why, Like I

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Speaker 5: have no problem sharing the blueprints, like here lay it

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Speaker 7: But look at this, right, some of these people start

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Speaker 7: So they just look to double and triple down in that,

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Speaker 7: and they focus so much on that that they're content.

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Speaker 4: It's more money. We haven't made even the ads.

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Speaker 7: Hey, I'm getting a thousand dollars ad let's say fifty

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Speaker 4: But some people happy in that.

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Speaker 7: Some people always look to the future and just want

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Speaker 7: it differently and want more. Right, So I can't speak

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Speaker 7: There is what let's let's go through. It's merchandising. There's

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Speaker 7: live touring. There's live touring slash speaking engagements. Those can

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Speaker 7: be two different things. There's advertisements slash.

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Speaker 7: There's paywall slash there's pay per view somewhere. What else

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Speaker 7: is there? What else is there? Yeah, all of them

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Speaker 7: is there. Now, all of them is doing that. So

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Speaker 7: you should be set up on all of these places

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Speaker 7: because they all pay out now to fucking TikTok, snapchats, Instagram, Facebook,

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Speaker 7: all that shit.

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Speaker 4: See.

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Speaker 7: So now there's a bunch of people that's gonna hear

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Speaker 7: And now say, how do I fill those buckets? The

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Speaker 7: same way I did with my accountant said that you

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Speaker 7: It's like, oh, I get there, I got one nigga.

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Speaker 7: A bunch of people gonna try to fill those buckets.

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Speaker 7: It's somebody else's job to go create more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I e.

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Speaker 7: Combat Jack Joe Budden, y'all. Somebody has to go add

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Speaker 7: more buckets. So that's really there to this. The traditional

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Speaker 7: ways to get paid is all right there. Everybody's value

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Speaker 7: is going to be different because anybody NUM's different.

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Speaker 4: We all do different things. But who's going to add to.

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