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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now, and I'm happy to say that

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Speaker 2: increasingly I find myself a voice of comfort common reason

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Speaker 2: for so many of my conservative friends out there. Probably

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Speaker 2: not gonna tell anybody names, not going to name the name.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting people texting me saying, why are you so confident?

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Speaker 2: How can you be so confident that Trump will win?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, just go with my gut. I

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Speaker 2: feel it, feel it in my bones, I feel it

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Speaker 2: in my toes, I feel it in my soul. I

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Speaker 2: believe in Trump. I believe in the movement, and I

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Speaker 2: know that right now they're trying so hard to make

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Speaker 2: everybody out there doubt that Donald Trump can win, and

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Speaker 2: I will not fall into that trap. We will look

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Speaker 2: at these numbers, We will look at the data as

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Speaker 2: it stands now, but also put it in the proper context,

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Speaker 2: look at the timeline, look at the momentum and what

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Speaker 2: lies ahead. This is a show where we take a

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Speaker 2: deep breath and make sure that we are firmly rooted

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Speaker 2: in reality. We'll also discuss later on what is the

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Speaker 2: Harris Walls foreign policy. My friend Bridge called the brilliant

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Speaker 2: guy and just random side note, I think when Bridge

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Speaker 2: was at Yale Law School and working in DC for

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Speaker 2: the first time, we used to drink together twenty years

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Speaker 2: ago in DC when I was a young CIA officer.

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Speaker 2: So here we are decades later and we get to

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Speaker 2: hang out on the radio and talk to a few

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Speaker 2: million of our closest friends. It's amazing, what a small

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Speaker 2: world it is. We've also got unions. Are they union membership,

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Speaker 2: not the leadership, the membership? Are they starting to go

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Speaker 2: for Donald Trump? Cover at New York Post? Five billion

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Speaker 2: dollars spent on migrants in New York City? Five billions.

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Speaker 2: That's where we are now. So you have trouble looking

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Speaker 2: at your gas and food and rent payments and not

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Speaker 2: having your eyeballs fall out of your head.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the taxes, and this is especially.

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Speaker 2: For our wo R listeners and NYC, the taxes you

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Speaker 2: are paying to New York and in the New York

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Speaker 2: City Metro are being funneled to make sure that illegals

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Speaker 2: are living in four star hotels with culturally sensitive meals

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Speaker 2: prepared for them, debit cards handed to them in some

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Speaker 2: cases with money on it, and all the rest of it,

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Speaker 2: and horrible crimes being committed by some of these migrants.

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Speaker 2: I meant to get to the story yesterday. I'll get

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Speaker 2: to it today. What happened down in Coney Island. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think should be a death penalty offense. Of course

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Speaker 2: that's not going to happen in New York. But the

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Speaker 2: violent rape of a woman by two illegals, one of

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Speaker 2: whom had already committed a violent sexual assault somehow not

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Speaker 2: kicked out of the country. You know, I want to

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Speaker 2: dive into that story. And also another multiple time offender,

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Speaker 2: this one I believe in the Boston area raped a child,

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Speaker 2: a girl, young girl, the fourteen years old. I think

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Speaker 2: it was a fifteen years old and should have been deported,

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Speaker 2: wasn't deported. And you will not believe what the Boston

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Speaker 2: police have done with this guy, despite ice, immigrations and

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Speaker 2: customs enforcements saying hey, can you hold on to the.

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Speaker 1: Serial sexual predator.

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Speaker 2: We would like to get rid of him from this

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Speaker 2: country and send him back because he's an illegal.

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Speaker 1: What do you think Boston PD did? We're going to

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Speaker 1: get into all that.

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Speaker 2: I will never forget our focus here on immigration, illegal

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Speaker 2: immigration as alongside the debt and the just leviath in

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Speaker 2: federal government. We have the biggest long term challenge that

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Speaker 2: the country faces to stay as it is so ed,

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Speaker 2: to stay a free republic based on a constitution and

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Speaker 2: with a shared culture, a shared history.

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Speaker 1: And yes, a shared language.

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Speaker 2: These are all important, critical things, actually critical building blocks

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Speaker 2: for our society. And if they kick at the load

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Speaker 2: bearing walls of our civilization as they are doing without

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Speaker 2: us pushing.

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Speaker 1: Back, we all know what will happen.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to get into this now because I'm

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Speaker 2: happy to calm those who are worried and to tell

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Speaker 2: them that it's gonna be okay. Trump's gonna win. And

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Speaker 2: if Trump doesn't win, it's you know, we'll figure that

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Speaker 2: out too. But I mean, it's gonna be okay. Trump's

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Speaker 2: gonna win this thing, all right. I have I have

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Speaker 2: faith that he's gonna win. He's gonna win solidly.

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Speaker 1: I think. I'll tell you this. It marked this prediction down.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna beat Kamala Harris by more than

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Speaker 2: he beat Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen. There you go,

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Speaker 2: who would have seen that coming, right? Remember what we

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Speaker 2: felt like in twenty sixteen. I think he will beat

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris in the electoral College by a wider margin

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Speaker 2: than he beat Hillary Clinton. I think that will actually

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Speaker 2: call me crazy, but I think that that's possible. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's too bold of a prediction, but I do think

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Speaker 2: he's gonna win. Maybe I'm walking back my prediction right

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Speaker 2: now as I'm thinking about the numbers in my head,

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Speaker 2: but I do think he's gonna win. I believe he's

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Speaker 2: gonna win, and I think it is rooted in the data.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into this, Okay. First of all, CNN, Harry Engine. Look,

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Speaker 2: CNN is doing everything they can to make sure that

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Speaker 2: the Harris campaign feels and sounds like it has momentum. Remember,

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Speaker 2: she's not even really campaigning. The media is campaign for her.

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Speaker 2: The media's campaigning for her. Now, CNN's data guy said this,

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Speaker 2: This was yesterday, and I'm gonna get to what he's

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Speaker 2: said more recently about this. This is yesterday on CNN

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Speaker 2: News Central, looking at this New York Times Siena poll.

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Speaker 2: But I'm here to tell you don't worry about this poll,

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Speaker 2: all right. I don't want to be clear.

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Speaker 1: I don't look at the polls every day. Oh, I'm scared.

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Speaker 1: What are we gonna do? It's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 2: Here is this guy, Harry Enton talking about Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: and how Democrats shouldn't be over confident.

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Speaker 1: This is twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Play it in those states dimensioned, those great Lake battleground states,

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Speaker 3: Trump was underestimated by nine points on average at this

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Speaker 3: point in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: How about twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a one off look at this he was

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Speaker 3: underestimated by five.

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Speaker 1: Points on average.

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Speaker 3: And of course, Kamala Harris's advantage in those New York

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Speaker 3: Times Santa College poles were four points in each of

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Speaker 3: these key battleground states Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. The bottom line

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Speaker 3: is this, if you have any idea, if you're a

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Speaker 3: champagne bottle, pop.

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Speaker 1: That quirk, do not do it. Donald Trump is very

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Speaker 1: much in this race.

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Speaker 3: If we have a polling shift like we've seen in

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Speaker 3: prior years from now until the final result, donald Trump

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Speaker 3: would actually win. I'm not saying that's going to happen,

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Speaker 3: but I am saying that he is very much in

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Speaker 3: this ballgame. Based upon where he is right now and

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Speaker 3: compare that to where he was in prior years.

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Speaker 1: He's in a better spot than he's been in in

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Speaker 2: I will say, I retract my He'll beat her by

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Speaker 2: more than Hillary twenty sixteen. As I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: electoral map, I had forgotten I was going off the

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Speaker 2: cuff there. I had forgotten that Trump ran the table

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Speaker 2: across the Midwest in twenty sixteen. It was remarkable when

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Speaker 2: you look back at it this time around. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of what he could win this

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Speaker 2: But I think Kama's going to win Virginia. In fact, God,

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Speaker 2: Kamala maybe in some ways a better candidate than Biden

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Speaker 2: was for the state of Virginia. So scratch that one

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Speaker 2: from the record. But I do think that he's going

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Speaker 2: he can win Pennsylvania, he can win. Oh no, I'm sorry, Nevada.

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Speaker 2: There we go, Nevada. I'm looking at the twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: he didn't pick up in twenty sixteen, So that would

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Speaker 2: be the one that would be a surprise.

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Speaker 1: Am I missing anything that else is really on the table?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: See, I knew there was something, but yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: that he'll get close to what he did before. I

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Speaker 2: think the map may look very similar to did in

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. That would be amazing, but I think it's

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Speaker 2: very possible. I think they're trying to tell you Harris

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Speaker 2: they have to shape perception right away. And I think

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Speaker 2: that the the CNN numbers guru there when he's telling

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Speaker 2: you that they've underestimated Trump's strength in the Midwest in

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Speaker 2: the past, I think that they're doing that again.

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Speaker 1: That's very likely.

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Speaker 2: And here's why, comes down to the white working class voter.

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Speaker 2: And I cannot foresee a situation where Trump rather where

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Speaker 2: Harris does better with those Midwestern white working class.

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Speaker 1: Voters than Joe Biden did.

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Speaker 2: So now we're focusing back on twenty twenty instead of

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. Our friend Ryan Grodoski put this one out

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Speaker 2: For example, in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, Trump won

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Speaker 2: whites without a college degree by thirty six points and

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Speaker 2: no way she's sliced his lead with those voters in half.

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Speaker 2: It just didn't happen. I've talked to Ryan about this.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree. I do not believe that there's been

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Speaker 1: A huge surge.

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Speaker 2: Of white working class support for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: I do not. I just don't buy it. I don't

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Speaker 2: But they know, people like me have been saying, why

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Speaker 2: is Trump going to win white working class voters? So

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Speaker 2: this is the way that the numbers can come out

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Speaker 2: and look really strong for Harris. I think that this

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Speaker 2: is another thing from CNN Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin voters. This

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Speaker 2: is a percentage of the electorate. Okay, black or Hispanic

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Speaker 2: in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. What do you think the percentage

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Speaker 1: Thirteen percent.

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Speaker 2: College educated white voters twenty seven percent in those states

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Speaker 2: of the electorate, non college educated white voters in those

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Speaker 2: states fifty percent of the electorate. That half of the

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Speaker 2: electorate determines this election, and a few percentage points in

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Speaker 2: that half of the electorate even those swing states is

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Speaker 2: going to be determinative. I hope the Trump team is listening.

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Speaker 2: I hope they're on the ball on point on this one.

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Speaker 2: I hope they're ready to go, because the numbers are

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Speaker 2: very clear here. You know, I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 2: this Trump team in twenty twenty really focused on trying

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Speaker 2: to turn.

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Speaker 1: Out a little more in the black vote, a little

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Speaker 1: more of the Hispanic vote.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't a path to victory, wasn't a path of victory,

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Speaker 2: and didn't work, not a not any meaningful way. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Biden's been president for four years. So this time around,

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Speaker 2: the focus on white working class voters and voter turnout

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Speaker 2: among that group is.

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Speaker 1: The pathway to victory.

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Speaker 2: So for those of you listening in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: who are truckers, who are plumbers, who are contractors, who

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Speaker 2: are and assuming you're falling into that non college educated,

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Speaker 2: which some of you do, some of you don't, but

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Speaker 2: the trades, those who make a living with their hands, right,

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Speaker 2: not white collar office workers. You get to determine whether

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Speaker 1: Really, that's what this comes down to.

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Speaker 2: So it's a lot of power in your hands and

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Speaker 1: Members in those states. That is where it really matters.

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Speaker 2: no way that you can cover that up in polling data.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're playing They're changing everything about Harris's record, They're

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Speaker 6: The problem is he's up against a younger or dynamic

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Speaker 2: That was Paul mcgala, And the more he is telling

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Speaker 1: Feel about Trump's chances. That's why I played that for

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Speaker 2: You know there's that guy Kramer was like, hey, buy

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how that's really done over time,

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Speaker 1: Were they saying.

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris was great six months ago? Oh, she's dynamic

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Speaker 1: Do you remember this? I remember it all these little murmurs.

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Speaker 2: Harris's roughly fifty staff members, five have lasted from the

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Speaker 1: That's quite an attrition rate.

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Speaker 2: The stories written in places like Politico and Axios abow

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Speaker 2: forget about all that, right, They were doing that because

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Speaker 2: there was talking about maybe Gretchen Whitber would be better,

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Speaker 1: This this was the talk, or it's a Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the stories that were coming out about Harris, even

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Speaker 1: How are you supposed to run a campaign against that?

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris stands for nothing and somehow everything at the

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Speaker 2: Know, you're you're fighting you know, shadows than dust. Here

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Speaker 2: But they're coming forward to be Team Kamala. Susan Rice

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Speaker 5: She will, as she.

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Speaker 4: Later this week.

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Speaker 7: But I think it's very important to remember that this

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Speaker 1: How was she an integral architect? A week ago?

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Speaker 2: They were telling us, Okay, let again. I know, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's we're in the funhouse, mirror world of democrats desperately

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Speaker 2: As soon as Harris was was the chosen, and I

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Speaker 2: that the defense of democracy argument from democrats, you're not

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Speaker 1: Defense of democracy. Maybe we should all mask up again.

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Speaker 1: That'll help with democracy, says doctor Fouch. Yeah, it's stunning,

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Speaker 2: Anything goes, whatever works. They don't even hide it from you.

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Speaker 2: They don't even try to hide it from you. Michael McFall,

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Speaker 1: And what is he? Probably at some think tech now right?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, he's at Stanford. Here he is.

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Speaker 2: He says the following about Kamala Harris. The amount objective

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Speaker 2: for Kamala Harris this was on X is to win

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Speaker 2: this election. If a press conference helps her win, she

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Speaker 2: just that simple. She has no moral obligation to talk

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Speaker 2: the media has to be a party to this, great

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Speaker 2: whatever they have to do is what they should do.

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Speaker 2: Anything goes Now I come back to what Susan Rice said.

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Speaker 2: Democrat elites, no votes, no primary. Used to be that

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Speaker 2: Harris was a laugh line. Nobody liked her in the

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Speaker 1: She got like two percent enter the vote and had

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Say what you will about Obama, the guy one, the

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Speaker 1: Guy never lost.

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Speaker 2: been rejected by the Democrat electorate, resoundingly rejected, and now

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Speaker 1: That she's great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now on the policy, think Susan Rice, one of

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Speaker 2: the most prominent members of the Obama administration. A top

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Speaker 2: Obama advisor, she has said that Kamala Harris is an

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Speaker 2: architect of Biden policies. Now that's a soundbit, it sounds good.

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Speaker 2: Which one which policies? As soon as they picked Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 2: what do we all start to think about? What was

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Speaker 2: she most associated with as an actual real policy?

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Speaker 1: The border? The borders are.

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Speaker 2: Biden gave her this as part of her vice presidential portfolio,

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Speaker 2: acting with his stamp of approval, you know, his you know,

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Speaker 2: it's sort of like, uh, you know, his mandate deal

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Speaker 2: with the border, and it was such a disaster and

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Speaker 2: the border has been so bad under the Biden Harris

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Speaker 2: tenure that the media immediately started to lie and gaslight

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Speaker 2: you by saying she was never the borders are. There's

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Speaker 2: no such thing as a borders are. That's a made

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Speaker 2: up thing. Axios. The left wing news website scrubbed its

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Speaker 2: own previous descriptions of her as borders are.

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Speaker 1: This is Soviets stuff.

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Speaker 2: This is like when they would remove people from certain

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Speaker 2: you know, bureaus in the Soviet Union and they would

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Speaker 2: use a razor to remove their name from the paper. Records,

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Speaker 2: you know, like, well there's a hole there now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but the name's not there.

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Speaker 1: This is the this is.

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Speaker 2: The absolute brainwashing of the America people to get a

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Speaker 2: manifestly unqualified, unprincipled, incapable nominee made president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: And I have to take this seriously because they made

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Speaker 2: a dementia patient. Clearly, as they now admit, the president

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Speaker 2: that States for four.

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Speaker 1: Years is still the president. Captain Dementia is still the

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Speaker 1: commander in chief. How is that even possible?

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Speaker 2: But this is one of the again challenges that we

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Speaker 2: have to deal with. When you have no integrity to protect,

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Speaker 2: you can do and say anything. And that's where the media,

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Speaker 2: that's where the Democrats are, That's where the Harris Wall's

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Speaker 2: campaign is. There's nothing that they stand for other than power.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing that they believe in other than they should

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Speaker 2: be in charge and the people around that they should

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Speaker 2: have power over you.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Whatever they have to say, whatever lies they

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Speaker 1: have to tell, it's all and it is.

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Speaker 2: It is incumbent upon us to meet this with the

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Speaker 2: ferocious response of truth in every venue, in every way

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Speaker 2: we possibly can. Because these are these are unseerious people

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Speaker 2: who will do serious.

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Speaker 1: Damage to the country.

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Speaker 2: And you'll notice that none of them even present themselves

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Speaker 2: for exchange of ideas on the other side.

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Speaker 1: What answer can they possibly give?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I know, I joke around with

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Speaker 2: you about how I'm like morning Joe's biggest fan. I

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Speaker 2: do think it's important to watch because I see I

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Speaker 2: watch the brainwashing process for that audience in real time.

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Speaker 2: I understand what's going on. But their their host was

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Speaker 2: saying that Joe Biden a few months ago was the sharpest.

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Speaker 1: He's ever been.

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Speaker 2: How can a person who says that on television and

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Speaker 2: puts their whatever integrity they're supposed to have on the

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Speaker 2: line with such a statement be taken seriously ever? Again,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was obviously a dementia patient, as they

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Speaker 2: now have had to admit, So why should we listen

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Speaker 2: to anything that's said about well? But this also applies

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Speaker 2: to the New York Times. They were all complicit in

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Speaker 2: the lie. And now you go with well, hold on

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Speaker 2: a second, it's not even new to the Biden administration.

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Speaker 2: They were complicit in huge lies about Russia collusion and

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Speaker 2: that Russia stole the twenty sixteen election. They've never they've

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Speaker 2: never addressed their part in that. In fact, they've given

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Speaker 2: So it's, uh, it's a wild thing to watch this

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Speaker 2: this play out because the counter arguments that I'm arming

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Speaker 2: you with today will have to be changed next week

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Speaker 2: because they will change their premise. They will change their

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Speaker 2: arguments entirely. Kamala Harris wasn't the borders are? Oh now

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Speaker 2: they're running ads saying that she was great on the

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Speaker 2: border and so important and so integral to the Obama

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry the Biden administration's successes, right, but they just

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Speaker 2: said that she was.

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Speaker 1: Now she is.

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Speaker 2: You know, next week it's going to be, oh, well

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Speaker 2: she was, you know she is in favor of reparation.

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Speaker 2: The week after that or coming up in the debate,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, she's not in favorite reparations. How do you

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Speaker 2: win an argument with somebody who stands for nothing. We're

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Speaker 2: going to find out. That's what we're dealing with with Kamala.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're dealing with with these democrats, and it

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Speaker 2: is going to be a challenge. You know, I want

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Speaker 2: to switch our focus to the Middle East for a second.

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Speaker 2: There's plenty of speculation still that Israel is going to

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Speaker 2: suffer from more attacks from these proxy terrorist forces back

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Speaker 2: by Iran. Hesbelah is really the most ominous of these threats,

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Speaker 2: and there's reason to believe that Israel could be drawn

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Speaker 1: In the event of a major attack from any of.

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Speaker 2: These forces, Israelis across the country could be forced to

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Speaker 2: spend days in bomb shelters. And these shelters can keep

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Speaker 2: Israeli safe, but they need to be equipped with essentials

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Speaker 2: for survival, including food and water, to prepare people to

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Speaker 2: The Fellowship has initiated a project to provide people with

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Speaker 2: Diving into illegal immigration right now, let's let's get into it,

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Speaker 2: my friends. The second biggest issue I think by the

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Speaker 2: numbers when it comes to what concerns the American public

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Speaker 2: and voters. Right now, we'll call it ten million. I

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Speaker 2: can't No one knows the real number. It's ten million

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Speaker 2: and four years, which is really noteworthy because if you

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Speaker 2: look at the last census data that they usually use

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Speaker 2: as their illegal immigration barometer, we were at roughly twelve

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Speaker 2: million total. They said, now, I think that number is absurd.

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Speaker 2: It's far too low, but no one disputes that were

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Speaker 2: over eight million under Biden. Eight million illegal entry. It's

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Speaker 2: when you add godaways and it's really more like ten million,

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Speaker 2: and it could be substantially more than that. This is

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Speaker 2: a huge problem for Democrats, and it's a problem especially

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Speaker 2: because people now see more than ever are there are

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Speaker 2: costs to this costs in dollars, costs in services, and

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Speaker 2: know who's coming across. I thought it was worthwhile exchange

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Speaker 2: between Elon Musk and Donald Trump on that space is

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Speaker 2: conversation on X that we spend a lot of time

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Speaker 2: on yesterday. It was worthwhile that Elon Musk said, Look,

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Speaker 2: this is not about whether most of the illegals or

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Speaker 2: even you know, ninety ninety five percent of the illegals

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Speaker 2: are decent people, kind, people just want better things for

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Speaker 2: their family. It's that we cannot take in the entire

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Speaker 2: world wants to come here. Our welfare state cannot sustain it,

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Speaker 2: our society cannot assimilate at that level. It is the

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Speaker 2: dissolution of the American Republic and this experiment, if you

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Speaker 2: will that the democracy, if we can keep it right,

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Speaker 2: it's it's impossible. You cannot allow this to continue, and

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Speaker 2: you actually have to turn it back, which means have

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Speaker 2: to be a lot of deportations, have to be a

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Speaker 2: lot of deportations millions. And part of why you have

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Speaker 2: to do the deportations is that it changes the calculations

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Speaker 2: for people who will come in the future. If you

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Speaker 2: just allow the status quo to persist. Meaning I don't know,

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Speaker 2: twenty million people in the country, thirty million people in

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Speaker 2: the country in violation of federal law. Other people will

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Speaker 2: say to themselves, well, what's twenty million in one, what's

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Speaker 2: twenty million in two? But if they start sending people

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Speaker 2: back to their home countries, it's do I want to

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Speaker 2: pay the coyotes thousands of dollars, the cartel coyotes thousands

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Speaker 2: of dollars to take me across the border? Do I

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Speaker 2: want to go on the harrowing journey and take them

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Speaker 2: up through what the Darien Gap and up through Central

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Speaker 2: America and through Mexico? And do I want to do that?

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Speaker 2: Maybe not right now. Obviously millions of them have chosen

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Speaker 2: to do so, and they're still doing so.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge problem. Now.

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Speaker 2: The change in this is is really twofold. There's the

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Speaker 2: change of the numbers. The numbers are now. They can't

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Speaker 2: play games with this. It's a total flood. It's a

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Speaker 2: an avalanche of illegality.

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Speaker 1: It's a disaster. But what does it mean for people?

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Speaker 1: You have these.

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Speaker 2: Left wing and also sometimes libertarian open borders advocates who

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Speaker 2: just say no.

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Speaker 1: It means GDP goes up.

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Speaker 2: You know, it means GNP gross national product GDP gross

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Speaker 2: domestic product means it all goes up. Bigger economy doing

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Speaker 2: the jobs Americans won't do.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Hold on a second.

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Speaker 2: We have a tough labor market right now, We have

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Speaker 2: high inflation. We have people can't afford houses. Elizabeth Warren,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about her in the third hour. She's saying, Oh,

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Speaker 2: make it better with government intervention. This is they agree

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Speaker 2: it's a problem for people who are working. They always

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Speaker 2: say the working class is having it tough. Do they

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Speaker 2: think dumping millions of illegals on the economy who are

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Speaker 2: working often off the books and therefore paid lower wages

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Speaker 2: and don't have the benefits and don't have the recourse

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Speaker 2: to the law. Therefore they can undercut the wages of

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Speaker 2: those lower on the wage scale. Supply and demand exists,

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Speaker 2: whether they think they wanted to or not, and so

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Speaker 2: they never deal with the consequences of the illegality. Well,

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Speaker 2: one consequence is you got a lot of people that

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Speaker 2: are on state benefits now right away. And that cost

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Speaker 2: in New York's city is five billion dollars for shelters, security, food.

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Speaker 2: And they think, get ready for this. I've been telling

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Speaker 2: be double by twenty twenty five ten billion dollars. The

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Speaker 2: entire budget of the forty thousand some odd men.

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Speaker 1: NYPD is five billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: The entire budget of the FDNY the Fire Department of

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Speaker 2: New York. These are obviously the two biggest municipal police

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Speaker 2: budget for the Fire department's two billion dollars. They're spending

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Speaker 2: five billion dollars on illegals. New York City is ruthless

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Speaker 2: for tracking down people who have been in you know,

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Speaker 2: who have tried to leave, Oh, you still live in

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Speaker 2: New York and all this other stuff. California is apparently

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Speaker 2: the worst, but New York's the second worst at this.

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Speaker 2: So if you're if you're somebody who is a contributor

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Speaker 2: who's paying taxes, you get harassed, you get hounded, you

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Speaker 2: get threatened, maybe even get imprisoned if you like Trump

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Speaker 2: too much. Like his accountant went to Ryker's Island because

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Speaker 2: he didn't list the company car on his taxes or something.

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Speaker 2: It was a state offense, that wasn't a federal offense. Outrageous,

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Speaker 2: outrageous stuff. But meanwhile, the migrants weren't even supposed to

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Speaker 2: be here. The city's taking your money and paying for

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Speaker 2: the migrants. What the heck is that ten billion dollars

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Speaker 2: next year, even for a city like New York. It's

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Speaker 2: a lot of money. That's a lot of money. Where

659
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Speaker 2: does it come from? Comes from you? Taken by force,

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Speaker 2: taken under threat of imprisonment, because the law is the

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Speaker 2: law for you.

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Speaker 1: The law is not the law for the migrants. No,

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Speaker 1: feel sorry for them.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's getting harder to feel sorry for

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Speaker 2: the migrants as a group when you see more and

666
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Speaker 2: more of these stories like we have in recent days,

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Speaker 2: because heinous crimes committed by illegals shouldn't be low, it should.

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Speaker 1: Be zero, because they shouldn't be here.

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Speaker 2: So any person who suffers at the hand of an

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00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: illegal in this country, whether it's a murder, a rape,

671
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Speaker 2: and assault, a robbery, should feel completely betrayed by their

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00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: own government. And this is here's a perfect example. This

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Speaker 2: was just Yesterday, New York Post agents with Immigration and

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Speaker 2: Customs Enforcement have tracked down a Haitian.

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Speaker 1: Illegal who had been.

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00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: Released on five hundred dollars bond despite facing charges of

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00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: raping a child in Massachusetts. This illegal raped a fifteen

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Speaker 2: year old in Massachusetts and he's twenty six years old.

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Speaker 2: The ICE, the federal agency that deals with this, asked

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Speaker 2: the sheriff's office that arrested him for the rape to

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Speaker 2: hold him so they could start deportation proceedings against him.

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Speaker 2: And you know what they did. Local sheriff ignored it. Now,

683
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Speaker 2: we're not gonna we're sanctuary jurisdiction, so we're gonna let

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Speaker 2: the child rapists go.

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Speaker 1: You have to play.

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Speaker 2: Go catch him, you get to go catch him.

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Speaker 1: There's a child rapist.

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Speaker 2: You're a law enforcement officer, and a federal agency says, hey,

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Speaker 2: that guy, we want to take him. You're you're holding

690
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Speaker 2: him on rape charts, but we want to deport it.

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Speaker 2: This guy shouldn't even be here. And you go, no, sorry,

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Speaker 2: we're a sanctuary jurisdiction.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine? And it gets worse, Oh,

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Speaker 1: it gets worse, It gets worse.

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Speaker 2: This guy's not a from what we see here. Not

696
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Speaker 2: a first time defender. So this is what ends up happening. Now,

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Speaker 2: we have Coney Island, Coney Island in New York City,

698
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Speaker 2: you know, and people think of it as amusement park.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it's a pretty rough neighborhood. Now. Homeless woman allegedly raped.

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Speaker 1: This is from the New York Post.

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Speaker 2: Homeless woman allegedly raped at knife point by a migrant

702
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Speaker 2: with the sex assault history in Brooklyn told the Post

703
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Speaker 2: she felt that the brute was actually trying to kill her.

704
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Speaker 2: It wasn't rape, it was attempted murder. The forty six

705
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Speaker 2: year old woman said, he didn't try to rape me,

706
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Speaker 2: He tried to kill me. In this instance, the woman

707
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Speaker 2: was that there's been a Nicaraguan migrant who has been

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Speaker 2: charged along with another migrant from I'm trying to see

709
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: what country he's from. Somewhere in Latin America. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Mexican national. And they assaulted a man who was with

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Speaker 2: this woman to keep him away, and then brutalized the woman.

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Speaker 2: I tried to pull the guy off her, and he

713
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Speaker 2: tried to stab me. This guy, the the you know,

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Speaker 2: boyfriend or the man with the woman who was raped,

715
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Speaker 2: said I grabbed the pipe with one hand and the

716
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Speaker 2: other one was behind me. He hit me with the brick,

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Speaker 2: hit me in the back. I ran over and asked

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Speaker 2: people to call the police. Call the police. These are

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Speaker 2: all quotes. She was hurt a lot. I was hurt

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Speaker 2: a little. I'm a man, I got feelings, but she

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Speaker 2: was really hurt. Ram Sammy added of his girlfriend of

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Speaker 2: two weeks with whom he'd been living in an encampment

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Speaker 2: in Coney Island.

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Speaker 1: She's messed up right now.

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Speaker 2: When it started getting dark out last night, she was

726
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Speaker 2: getting paranoid. The victim out of she fought fox, she

727
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: couldn't fight anymore. Two illegals raped her at knife point,

728
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Speaker 2: beat her boyfriend so that he couldn't come to her aid.

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Speaker 2: And we find out that the illegal who was the

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Speaker 2: one who did the forcible rape was already wanted for

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Speaker 2: other sex offenses. You might be wondering, how can in

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Speaker 2: an illegal not supposed to be in the he wanted

733
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Speaker 2: for an earlier sex offense, still be in the country

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Speaker 2: and now rapes this woman at knife point in Coney

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Speaker 2: Island because the Democrats think.

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Speaker 1: That this is what this is the way it should be.

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris and Tim Wallace think that we need to

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Speaker 2: just let as many illegals as possible run free in

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Speaker 2: the country, and if they rape someone, or shoot someone

740
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Speaker 2: or stab someone, let's not jump to conclusions and send

741
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Speaker 2: them back to their home country. This is the stuff

742
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Speaker 2: that America is made of. This is the reality of

743
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Speaker 2: our future. They do the jobs Americans won't do, et cetera,

744
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Speaker 2: et cetera. Well, hold on a second, if the government

745
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: doesn't hold these illegals responsible, how can the government hold

746
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Speaker 2: me responsible?

747
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Speaker 1: Why does the law.

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Speaker 2: Apply to me but not even people, but not people

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Speaker 2: who by their very presence are violating federal statute and

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Speaker 2: the sovereignty of the United States.

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Speaker 1: They have no answers for this. They have no answers

752
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Speaker 1: except to lie to you. Harris is tough on the border. No,

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Speaker 1: she's not. That is a lie.

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Speaker 2: And of course there's a huge component of this as well,

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Speaker 2: where if you have an objection to the flood of

756
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Speaker 2: millions of illegals coming into the country because they are

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Speaker 2: coming from generally overwhelmingly very poor, lawless and non English

758
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Speaker 2: speaking countries.

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Speaker 1: The Third World, because they're.

760
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Speaker 2: Flooding in from the Third World, that's all you're being racist.

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Speaker 2: So the immigration system, the purpose of it is to

762
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Speaker 2: allow in as many people with no education, no English

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Speaker 2: language skills, no skills whatsoever, and no knowledge of their

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Speaker 2: criminal history, no knowledge.

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Speaker 1: In what way are they American?

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Speaker 2: Well they're not well, then why are they allowed to

767
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Speaker 2: be here and get all these services and get this

768
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: special treatment from our government? Because they're dissolving the country

769
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: in front of your eyes day in and day out.

770
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Speaker 2: They're dissolving the United States of America with this nonsense.

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Speaker 2: That's what's actually happening. And the Democrats are all on

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Speaker 2: board for it, and they lie and lie, and they

773
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: always take the side of the illegals. They're always pushing

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Speaker 2: to make it easier for illegals to get into the country.

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Speaker 1: And then they try to say, oh, we tried to

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Speaker 1: pass this border bill.

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Speaker 2: The border bill would have made it so that they

778
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Speaker 2: allow thousands of illegals today. But if it gets to

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Speaker 2: ten thousand a day, well then that's too much and

780
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Speaker 2: we're going to shut it down. All I mean, you know,

781
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Speaker 2: you sit here and say, how much worse can it be?

782
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Speaker 2: How can any person vote for the continuation just on

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Speaker 2: the immigration.

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Speaker 1: Issue alone, with all the illegals.

785
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Speaker 2: Coming into the country, How can any serious honest, intelligent

786
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Speaker 2: person want to support the Kamala Harris continuation of the

787
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Speaker 2: Harris or Biden Harris policies.

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Speaker 1: There's no answer. Oh, it's such a complicated issue.

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Speaker 2: They make it complicated by refusing to enforce the laws.

790
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Speaker 2: They make it worse for everybody by allowing rapists to

791
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Speaker 2: rate more than once, even though they are illegals who

792
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Speaker 2: shouldn't be in the country.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about this. The guy's wanted for child.

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Speaker 2: Rape and a sheriff won't work with Immigration and Customs enforcement,

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Speaker 2: so they release him into the general public. Hey, this

796
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: guy's violating federal law. You're a sheriff, we're a law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Can you just hold on to him until Nope? Sorry,

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Speaker 2: sanctuary jurisdiction. Kamala Harris should be asked about that on

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Speaker 2: the debate stage. Hey, Kamala Harris, do you believe that

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Speaker 2: illegal alien rapists should be let free after they've been

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Speaker 2: arrested for committing a rape and not hand.

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Speaker 1: It over to Ice for deportation. What do you think

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Speaker 1: about that, Kamala Harris? Donald Trump's a racist. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we all know.

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Speaker 2: Where this is gonna go. We all know how they

806
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Speaker 2: We've been talking a lot today about whatever we can

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Speaker 2: maybe non existent, is foreign policy. Let's talk to our

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Speaker 1: Mister Bridge Colby, great to have you back, Great to

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Speaker 1: be with you. All right, so let's.

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Speaker 2: Start with the I think we can just take as

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Speaker 2: a give in that there hasn't been a lot of

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Speaker 2: specifics from the Kamala campaign about what they're foreign.

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Speaker 1: Policy would be.

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Speaker 2: But if we're going to assume it is an extension

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Speaker 2: of the Biden policy, and then add in whatever specifics

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Speaker 2: we can divine from the statements that have been made

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Speaker 2: on her behalf, Really, what do we know about what

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Speaker 2: a Kamala Harris Tim Wall's foreign policy would look like?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, we don't know much. And don't take

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Speaker 4: this from you and me. I think the Wall Street

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Speaker 4: Journal actually ran a piece like a week or two

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Speaker 4: ago saying people just don't know what she stands for.

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Speaker 4: And of course she's you know, moving off of positions

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Speaker 4: that she did take, so it's really all speculation. What

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Speaker 4: I would say is my read is that she's basically

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Speaker 4: going to be like closer to a standard issue Democratic

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Speaker 4: just you know, cars on the table. Not a big

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Speaker 4: fan of President and say the least, but President Biden,

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Speaker 4: you know, does kind of at least he thinks of himself,

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Speaker 4: if you look at some of his top leadership Jake Sullivan,

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Speaker 4: John Finer, Kirk Campbell, Eli Rattner, Frank Kendall, a lot

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Speaker 4: of these people, you know, I mean, I have my

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Speaker 4: not dreamy idealists, you know, to the to the contrary.

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Speaker 4: So I think Kamala Harris, what we can see her

874
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Speaker 4: top person, for instance, is a guy named Phil Gordon.

875
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: He was in the Obama administration, was in the Clint administration.

876
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Speaker 4: You know, for instance, he signed a letter that was

877
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Speaker 4: put out in the Washington Post about five years ago.

878
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: And if you read the letter about China. If you

879
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 4: read the letter, a lot of it seems kind of

880
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: unobjectionable to it because they kind of create fake straw men.

881
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 4: But it was basically written to push back on the

882
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Speaker 4: shift on China, uh that that was happening under the

883
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Speaker 4: Trump administration that you know, Jake Sullivan and Kirk Campbell

884
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 4: and these guys have tried to take over. I mean,

885
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Speaker 4: we have a debate about who's better at it. But

886
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Speaker 4: that's what leads me to think like we should sort

887
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Speaker 4: of expect more like the center of this sort of

888
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Speaker 4: Democratic party than what we've gotten, even from Joe Biden,

889
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 4: which is which is pretty darn progressive, and so that

890
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Speaker 4: worries me, you know, I know she for instance, a

891
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Speaker 4: few years ago, she said she wants to cut the

892
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Speaker 4: defense budget. I mean, I'm not one of these people

893
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Speaker 4: is out there saying, which triple the defense budget, but

894
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Speaker 4: been cutting the defense budget in this time. That's pretty worrying.

895
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Speaker 4: So again, a lot of this is speculation and inference,

896
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Speaker 4: but I think she's going to be more sort of

897
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Speaker 4: progressive even than Biden.

898
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Speaker 2: I mean, I would offer, just from the political pugilist

899
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: side of this equation, that it's supposed to be this

900
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Speaker 2: is what they want, which is that the foreign policy

901
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: is whatever they have to say it is in the minute,

902
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: and nobody actually knows what it is. So then it's

903
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: a harder target, do you know what I mean. It's

904
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: you know, you're you're sort of punching at the wind.

905
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Speaker 2: And and I think that that's a larger theme in

906
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Speaker 2: the campaign overall. But let's drill down then into reality

907
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: and the hero and now for second, on the foreign

908
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Speaker 2: policy scene, one thing that well I'm a little bit.

909
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Speaker 4: Surprised, yes if I say one thing just on that

910
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 4: page of course, is just you know, look, I think

911
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 4: you're putting your finger on something, which is we are

912
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 4: in an exceptionally dangerous period where we've got a wild

913
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 4: mismatch between a rhetoric that Biden and others have gotten

914
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Speaker 4: us into and the fact that there are multiple wars

915
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Speaker 4: around around the world and the resources that we are

916
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Speaker 4: putting at that problem in terms of the defense budget

917
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: and so forth, and the American people are willing to

918
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Speaker 4: put it at the problem. The New York Times even

919
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 4: was reporting today that the Russians and Chinese are co

920
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Speaker 4: op collaborating more on military operations than ever before. And

921
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: so President Trump, I think, is putting something out there

922
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: saying we're in the verge of World War three. We

923
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Speaker 4: need to be strong, but we also need to use

924
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Speaker 4: the military sparingly as as I think the Platform correctly said,

925
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Speaker 4: and I mean, I agree with that, but that's a

926
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Speaker 4: serious message in a very serious time. We don't have

927
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Speaker 4: time for this kind of fluff where people are just

928
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: kind of message testing it. We've got If you're going

929
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Speaker 4: to pursue the kind of Ridicten might be, well, the

930
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Speaker 4: overly expansive Biden approach, you got to back that up

931
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Speaker 4: with big defense spending increases. You got to do xyz

932
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 4: she's showing none of that, so she's not having a

933
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: political mandate, so she's you know, in a sense, like

934
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Speaker 4: the analogy I used, we're heading towards the Titanic, at

935
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: least offer us a way to not hit the iceberg,

936
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Speaker 4: and here we're just having to guess at what the

937
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Speaker 4: captain is proposing as we hurtle towards the iceberg. Whereas

938
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: I think President Trump and Senator Vance are offering a

939
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 4: very clear and I think very common sense and the

940
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Speaker 4: right approach, but at minimum should be able to evaluate.

941
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Speaker 4: Isn't that what democracy is about?

942
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Speaker 2: I mean, come on right, well, as you can see

943
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: everyone can see I think now pretty clearly on one

944
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: of the hotspot issues, which is Israel Hamas slash Hesbala

945
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: slash Iran. The Democrats that they want to just have

946
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Speaker 2: a deafening silence on this to degree they can right

947
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Speaker 2: before the election, because they can't have it both ways,

948
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Speaker 2: and for their electorate they need to have it both ways,

949
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Speaker 2: and that's that's going to be a challenge for them.

950
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Speaker 2: We're speaking of Bridge Colby, principal of the marria On Initiative. Bridge,

951
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Speaker 2: tell me about this incursion into Kursk and the Ukraine

952
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: front and how this has changed.

953
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Speaker 1: Is this a big deal.

954
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Speaker 2: I'm actually a little surprised given all the you know,

955
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Speaker 2: Slava Ukraine and the flags and everything we see from Democrats.

956
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Speaker 2: There's not more talk about this right now, but I

957
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Speaker 2: guess it's just full throttle Kamala is like, you know,

958
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Speaker 2: Jesus or whatever. So what does this mean that there's

959
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Speaker 2: been a counter offensive by Ukraine in the Russian territory.

960
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: Well, just parenthetically on that, I think David Sachs put

961
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 4: this out that like the Kamala image on the front

962
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Speaker 4: of Time, where she actually does kind of look like

963
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Speaker 4: a religious icon. The most important part was that she

964
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Speaker 4: declined to comment for the article.

965
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Speaker 1: We ever talked about that yesterday.

966
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Speaker 4: Yes, it's surreal, it's like beyond mockery. But it's a

967
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Speaker 4: great question. I mean, I think I was certainly surprised

968
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Speaker 4: taken aback, I would say, impressed by the Ukrainians prowess.

969
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: I think we have yet to figure out what's going on.

970
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 4: Zelenski started talking about it now. Ukrainians senior leaders, it's

971
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 4: not immediately clear, entirely clear to me what their goals are.

972
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Speaker 4: Are they trying to like discombobulate the Russians. Are they

973
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 4: trying to seize territory to hold a leverage for future negotiations,

974
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Speaker 4: That's what Putin was suggesting. Are they trying to kind

975
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: of change the narrative away from you know, the sort

976
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 4: of the steady progress that the Russians are making in

977
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 4: the main theater, which in the East. I have to say,

978
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Speaker 4: I'm skeptical, and I'd probably even go farther. I don't

979
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: think that this is going to change the fundamentals, you know.

980
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 4: I mean, and even in the time New York Times

981
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: reporting this morning, there's real questions. American officials were apparently

982
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 4: saying off the record as they usually do, or sort

983
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 4: of anonymously, you know, we're not sure that the Ukrainians

984
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 4: made the best decision. We're not exactly sure what they're

985
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: trying to say, But I think the jury is still out.

986
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 4: But look, I think what we've seen in Ukraine over

987
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 4: the last two and a half years plus is there's

988
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 4: no fancy, kind of decisive blitzkrieg style, you know, thing

989
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: that totally transforms. It didn't happen for the Russians at

990
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: the beginning. It didn't happen for the Ukrainians in late

991
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, or in the big counter offensive in

992
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, and so it's still a matter of

993
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 4: numbers and resolve, and I think unfortunately that favors the Russians,

994
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: and so this might help the Ukrainians somewhat, but I

995
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 4: don't see it as a fundamental game changer or something

996
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: like that.

997
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: Let's assume that I'm right. Trump wins. The cavalry arrives

998
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: over the hill at just the right moment on election day,

999
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: so to speak, and Trump is now commander in chief.

1000
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: He's been saying that he's going to end this Russia

1001
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Speaker 2: Ukraine conflict, and now he's Trump, so he just sort

1002
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: of says I will end it, and people are taking

1003
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 2: him at his word.

1004
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: What do you think that looks like?

1005
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 4: Well, man, I hope you're right about winning. It's obviously

1006
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 4: as tight race now, but I think we definitely need

1007
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 4: change and.

1008
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: Keep the faith, bridge keep the faith.

1009
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 4: I'm a believer, but take nothing for granted, right, But

1010
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 4: you know more about this than I do. But look,

1011
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I don't speak for president,

1012
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 4: as you know, and I don't make any presumptions about

1013
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 4: myself or anything like that. But I will say, just

1014
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 4: on the issue of how much President Trump has actually

1015
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 4: laid out his plan. I think it's actually pretty sort

1016
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 4: of almost like best practice not to talk to in

1017
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 4: too much detail about what the plan is. That's actually

1018
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,479
Speaker 4: what Dwight Eisenhower did in nineteen fifty two when pretty

1019
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 4: much all I said about ending the Korean War was

1020
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: I will go to Korea. Or Ron Reagan nineteen eighty

1021
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: said he would solve as I understand a the Iran

1022
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 4: hostage christ he didn't get into a lot of detail.

1023
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 4: So I mean, you don't want to put all your

1024
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 4: cards on the table.

1025
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: So it is basically the force of personality is the promise,

1026
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: and you trust in the commander in chief to show up,

1027
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: pound his fist on the table and get it done.

1028
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: I mean that that actually is the strategy at some level.

1029
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's the strategy. But also like, look,

1030
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 4: I mean Biden sort of locked into this terrible policy

1031
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 4: and if anything, Harris looks like she's going to continue it,

1032
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 4: which is rhetorical maximalism about you know, Putin is the

1033
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 4: evilest guy who ever lived. He's obviously a bad guy,

1034
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 4: like he's done a lot of bad things. That's not

1035
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 4: the issue, but it's not backed up by like any

1036
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 4: kind of plausible strategy. And I'm not ana the Wall

1037
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: Street Journal lot ed page on this point. But where

1038
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 4: they do have a point is saying, like, what are

1039
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 4: we doing. We're slow dripping them resources and money. Meanwhile

1040
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 4: we're talking, you know, we're progressively allowing attacks into Russia.

1041
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: Putin responds to this thing by saying, taking negotiations off

1042
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: the table. I mean, obviously that could be a maneuver,

1043
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 4: but it's like what we're doing for the last two

1044
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 4: and a half years is not working out. I mean,

1045
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 4: the Biden administration will tell you, oh, we're winning. Well,

1046
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 4: if you compare it to like complete catastrophe, it's better

1047
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 4: than that. But I don't think anybody in Ukraine or

1048
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 4: a rational person looking from the outside would say that

1049
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 4: if you looked at this from the beginning of Biden's term,

1050
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 4: this is a good outcome. Now maybe if it's not.

1051
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 4: You know, I think the force of personality is part

1052
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 4: of it, but it's also a different common sense approach.

1053
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 4: I mean, one of the things where Trump President Trump

1054
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 4: gets flack, which I think is telling, is when he says, hey,

1055
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: you know, I need to have a good relationship with

1056
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 4: or you know, at least a talking relationship with Putin

1057
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 4: or Kim Jong un or Shi Jinping. I think that's

1058
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 4: actually makes sense. Like Richard Nixon was able to talk

1059
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 4: to him as a dong. We were talking to the

1060
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Speaker 4: head of the Soviet Union. That was considered a good

1061
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: because you need to be able to potentially come to

1062
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 4: some different agreement. So I think a different approach where

1063
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: there is also more, as you know, concern about what

1064
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: the Americans might be prepared to do on like the

1065
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 4: economic sanctions front or whatever. I mean, you know, I

1066
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 4: don't know what's what's the total universe, but I don't

1067
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 4: think it's out of the question because like maybe Russia

1068
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Speaker 4: doesn't over long term want to be a dependency of China.

1069
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 4: And I think this is again something the present I

1070
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 4: think he said to Elon Musk the other night, was saying,

1071
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 4: which is again like it used to be a truism

1072
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 4: of American forigm policy. You don't want the Russians and

1073
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: the Chinese allied against you, right, it's like kind of

1074
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 4: a basic high giene of American form positive.

1075
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and never never find a land war in Asia,

1076
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Speaker 1: et cetera.

1077
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, So like I do think, you know, I

1078
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, and I don't you know, I don't

1079
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 4: know what Putin's actual negotiating parameters are, but presumably he

1080
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Speaker 4: doesn't want the war to go on forever and so forth.

1081
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 4: I think at least at least worth trying it out.

1082
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Speaker 4: I do think that the Ukrainians are going to need

1083
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,959
Speaker 4: to be supported whatever happens. But I think, as President

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Speaker 4: Trump said in his true social post a few months ago,

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Speaker 4: that's got to be on the Europeans.

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Speaker 1: That seems reasonable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well real, real quick, Bridge really got about a minute.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just wondering. Yeah, there's this this sense of,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Iran is going to have some kind

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Speaker 2: of a CounterPunch against Israel and it could be horrible.

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Speaker 1: Is this Iran taking its time?

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Speaker 2: Or do people sometimes underestimate the limitations of the Iranian

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Speaker 2: state to really engage in any kind of a sort

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Speaker 2: of certainly a conventional military strike.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question. You know, It's one of

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Speaker 4: the things going back and you and I've been in

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Speaker 4: this field a while, like you know, where people would

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Speaker 4: say the Iranians are totally irrational, and actually, like if

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Speaker 4: you look at and particularly how the Israelis are thinking

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Speaker 4: about them, and they're calculus The Iranians are calculating, and

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Speaker 4: they know what's up, you know, So like I don't

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Speaker 4: it sounds like the Israelis and we are preparing for

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Speaker 4: an Iranian attack, and you know, I think that would

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Speaker 4: probably be where you'd put your money. And again, as

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Speaker 4: the Israelis have shown, but the Iranians too, you can

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Speaker 4: take your time in retaliating. But what exactly that looks like?

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Speaker 4: I don't think we know there's a story of the

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Speaker 4: Israelis may go after hasblah as as even used in

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Speaker 4: Iranian retaliation as a pretext. So Iran's going to be

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Speaker 4: factoring that in, Like is this gonna net benefit us

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Speaker 4: to do something? But they certainly put themselves in a

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Speaker 4: position where where they've put their credibility on the line

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Speaker 4: quite a bit. So unfortunately, I think that's probably the

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Speaker 4: way to bet. But I hope it's not. I certainly,

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Speaker 4: I hope it's not successful, But I hope it's not

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Speaker 4: very robust.

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Speaker 2: Bridge Colby, everybody, Bridge, give me a tour the Pentagon

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Speaker 2: when you're under Secretary of Defense.

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Speaker 1: All right, looking forward to.

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Speaker 4: Kindn't make any assumptions but always a great talk to

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Speaker 4: you guys.

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