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Speaker 1: H When you when you do music, you need a
Speaker 1: place to go, yes, you do. You know you need
Speaker 1: a venue. You need proper venue.
Speaker 2: You need proper promotions, You need proper promoters.
Speaker 1: You need your money on time.
Speaker 3: You definitely need your money on You know, you need.
Speaker 2: Proper people in place to make sure that there are
Speaker 2: platforms in place for you to go and the people
Speaker 2: to go to celebrate you. And that's what this man
Speaker 2: has provided for twenty plus years. And were about to
Speaker 2: get into the magic of how he's doing it and
Speaker 2: now he continues to do it do while living all
Speaker 2: give it up for my garden.
Speaker 4: That's that's an amazing man. I've been looking forward to
Speaker 4: this one. That amazing.
Speaker 3: How we have the rmvy Money Podcast and not have
Speaker 3: Mike This makes sense. Oh, we do too many good things.
Speaker 1: Just been a fabric in everyone's lives in this music Listen.
Speaker 2: Some of the greatest nights of my life, you know,
Speaker 2: some nights, some nights that ended with you know, everyone
Speaker 2: knows this conversation.
Speaker 1: If you you in a relationship, what happened to you
Speaker 1: last night? I don't know. I was that. That's the
Speaker 1: last thing I remember party a bachelor party was at list?
Speaker 1: How about that? How about that? I mean a funny
Speaker 1: story about that too, I been.
Speaker 2: I don't think you understand, like you know, we're family now,
Speaker 2: but I don't think you understand the lengths that I
Speaker 2: would go.
Speaker 3: To to get here on a Sunday, like it was, yeah, tanked.
Speaker 3: The event ain't till like Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I want to go in a few
Speaker 1: days early. So you want to be there on Sunday
Speaker 1: for the event there's Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do, Yes, I do. It's I mean, and
Speaker 2: you've been doing that? I mean, what do you say?
Speaker 2: Fifteen years?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 1: Thinks successful years.
Speaker 2: I like that because that's different, right, because I mean,
Speaker 2: of course there are hides and lows to everything, right,
Speaker 2: and I think there are there are levels to the
Speaker 2: highs and lows. Sometimes when those lows get really low,
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 1: You can't get into livet.
Speaker 2: You know, that's what you know, the lows the lows
Speaker 2: is really low. You know what I'm saying, it's like
Speaker 2: you used to get in for the loves. I am
Speaker 2: gonna need that two hundred from you, baby. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's but it's never been like maybe
Speaker 2: what you consider a low is different than what we
Speaker 2: consider a low, since you know you're you're you're dealing
Speaker 2: with the full scope of the thing. But every time
Speaker 2: I go to live and look at it and I'm
Speaker 2: standing in this room, the energy is everything that it's
Speaker 2: supposed to be.
Speaker 5: Absolutely no, it got its It definitely has its lows,
Speaker 5: like because for fifteen years, it's nothing is consistent for
Speaker 5: fifteen years. But you're right, the low may be different
Speaker 5: for y'all it's and for me it's a little different.
Speaker 5: It could be the amount of money we making. It
Speaker 5: could be just the joy that people have when they
Speaker 5: come to that party, especially if they not consistently coming,
Speaker 5: because they can come maybe twice a year because we
Speaker 5: get so many tours live man, so it's not like
Speaker 5: a consistent crowd.
Speaker 4: And so you know, you may get someone that come
Speaker 4: there maybe.
Speaker 5: Twice a year, and it's popping those two times they
Speaker 5: come to in their mind is always always popping. It's
Speaker 5: the greatest part of every but you know, to be honest,
Speaker 5: we have our moments where it's not ass popping.
Speaker 4: It's just that the people don't see it.
Speaker 5: The wrong artist was booked or or there wasn't an
Speaker 5: artists and it's just you know, because now they have
Speaker 5: the people have come. They so used to seeing someone
Speaker 5: there now and it's one of those situations.
Speaker 4: Like who's there, who's there? And that's not really what
Speaker 4: I like.
Speaker 5: As the promoter. I wanted to be about the party.
Speaker 5: It's not about who's going to be there. And once
Speaker 5: the point of time it was like that where they
Speaker 5: was coming to live on Sunday because of living on
Speaker 5: Sunday because they didn't know who was going to be
Speaker 5: there and who's going to get up on that stage.
Speaker 4: I think that's where it real you.
Speaker 2: Int we got taken, So like I want to, I
Speaker 2: definitely want to continue to expand on it because I
Speaker 2: think what you've done with this is legend legendary, completely legendary.
Speaker 2: Is there a backstory to even how you get into
Speaker 2: this space, like going back to the beginning, to your
Speaker 2: hometown and being like I want to be the curator
Speaker 2: of of legendary musical moments. The basketball mind.
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say, t.
Speaker 1: It's a thing in the industry, hey man, And I've
Speaker 1: never even hooved with it, but I know that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I gave them.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, no, this wasn't something I wanted
Speaker 4: to do. This just happened.
Speaker 5: It wasn't that I wanted to be a promoter, I
Speaker 5: wanted to curate this or that it just ended up happening.
Speaker 4: And always said this over the years.
Speaker 5: I feel like I've been blessed to bless others because
Speaker 5: this wasn't something that I wanted to do.
Speaker 4: I wanted to be a ball player. I wanted to
Speaker 4: I wanted to be MIKEE. But it just didn't bad.
Speaker 4: It just didn't go that way.
Speaker 1: So where were you playing?
Speaker 4: I actually came to Miami from Chicago.
Speaker 5: I came down here and I was playing the University
Speaker 5: of Miami. I started as a freshman sophomore.
Speaker 1: The biggest.
Speaker 5: I said was there with Jack Jack, I'm a little
Speaker 5: older than What we're not going to do is disclose
Speaker 5: our age.
Speaker 4: But I'm older than Jack.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, older than Jack.
Speaker 5: I'm a little older than Jack, though, But nah, I
Speaker 5: was down here playing and I don't want to say
Speaker 5: too much about it because I got this documentary coming out.
Speaker 5: It's going to tell the whole story. What you know,
Speaker 5: I was down here ball and I came and that's
Speaker 5: what got me to Miami. I came down here. Uh,
Speaker 5: they kids, he got in trouble and go ahead, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I got in trouble. I got got in the little trouble.
Speaker 5: It's a great learning experience. See it on the documentary
Speaker 5: that's coming out. Yeah, but nah, man, I came down
Speaker 5: here and I got stuck in Miami. Even though once
Speaker 5: I was down here, I had got suspended off the team.
Speaker 5: I went back to Chicago, and I was in Chicago
Speaker 5: just still trying to work out and still pursue these
Speaker 5: hoop dreams. But it wasn't happening. So I ended up
Speaker 5: getting my degree from the Paul, came back down to Miami.
Speaker 1: You finish school.
Speaker 5: I finished Illinois and yeah, I finished. I got the
Speaker 5: degree in at the Paul. So congratulations, than you show
Speaker 5: you know me there? So y'all want me here?
Speaker 1: Cool? Good luck?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's all good.
Speaker 5: So I ended up after I got my degree, I
Speaker 5: was in Chicago doing absolutely nothing and my cousin he
Speaker 5: had a barber shop called Hell and his barber Shops.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: So I end up coming down here because he said, look, man,
Speaker 5: we grade open up one hundred and fifty barber shops
Speaker 5: in every corner like Paul Mitch, and I was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 5: So I came down here and we couldn't get one open,
Speaker 5: and I was like, damn, I'm just down here doing
Speaker 5: absolutely nothing. So steady going over to um pursuing my
Speaker 5: whole dream, working out me, Tim hardaway everybody. I'm still
Speaker 5: got my pool dreams. But I ain't had no place
Speaker 5: to live. I ain't had no place to stay. So
Speaker 5: I ended up living in the back of his barbershop.
Speaker 5: And I ain't really want to tell my mom and
Speaker 5: none of them because I was like the the guy
Speaker 5: that was gonna get us out of this world in
Speaker 5: the family. So I didn't want to call her and
Speaker 5: disappoint her, like, you know, your son is living in
Speaker 5: Miami in the back of a barber shop. So I
Speaker 5: ain't really want to do that, so I kept that
Speaker 5: to myself. And he came up with this idea like,
Speaker 5: hey man, you know all these athletes, you know all
Speaker 5: the people when you go out, they know who you are,
Speaker 5: why don't we do a party?
Speaker 4: And I was like, that's cool, let's let's do a party.
Speaker 4: And he was like, why don't we do a player's ball?
Speaker 4: You know how? You know you in Chicago? Man, they
Speaker 4: got all the pimps and players and all that. And
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, cool.
Speaker 5: But I thought originally I thought he was talking about
Speaker 5: with the athletes, but he was talking about with the
Speaker 5: real So I reached out to Bishop Don, Magic Wand
Speaker 5: and then he kind of gave me the connect for
Speaker 5: Iced Tea, and my very very first party was a
Speaker 5: player's ball with Bishop Don, Magic Wand and Iced Tea.
Speaker 1: That was my first party.
Speaker 3: Pretty much, what you're saying is that Dave's your pails,
Speaker 3: stole your idea.
Speaker 4: Tea.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the same party.
Speaker 4: Man. Hey, I guess so I ain't gonna say, well,
Speaker 4: I won't say sold it.
Speaker 1: But she happened.
Speaker 4: So the party though, the party was a disaster. It's
Speaker 4: a disaster, listen, man.
Speaker 5: This ballroom held about fifteen hundred people, and maybe fifteen
Speaker 5: people showed up. And that was like me, the cashier,
Speaker 5: It wasn't absolutely, it wasn't a soul that showed up.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: I was so disappointed. I was like, maybe this ship
Speaker 5: ain't for me. But nobody showed up because in my
Speaker 5: documentary I showed it. This is because I didn't have
Speaker 5: any tutor to show me how to promote or nothing
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 4: I had a flyer. It didn't even have the location
Speaker 4: of the party.
Speaker 6: No, So I think that's I know, man, nobody didn't
Speaker 6: invite nobody, nobody, and nobody noticed.
Speaker 1: That location disclosed soon man.
Speaker 4: So it was terrible.
Speaker 1: Man, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: It was terrible.
Speaker 5: I got a picture of the fly and I think
Speaker 5: that's I need to frain it because that was my
Speaker 5: my very first party. You gotta they didn't have no location,
Speaker 5: no party here, Nobody noticed it. I'm passed off these flyers.
Speaker 5: Nobody stopped me and said, Mike, where did the party at?
Speaker 5: Nobody said ship.
Speaker 4: They just didn't come super humble.
Speaker 1: So when did it become When did it become a thing?
Speaker 1: Did you open some more barbershops first? And then nah?
Speaker 5: So after that, after that failed, I used my relationships
Speaker 5: like with Tim Hardaway Lines the Morning, and then some
Speaker 5: of the guys that that played at UM that was
Speaker 5: playing at with the Dolphins, like You're till Green Jason
Speaker 5: Taylor's at Thomas. They let me do a player's ball,
Speaker 5: another player's ball, but this is with the athletes, and
Speaker 5: they didn't charge me. So because of the hype of
Speaker 5: having the NBA players and the NFL players. My second
Speaker 5: party was a Miami Heat Miami Dolphins, and I ain't
Speaker 5: really had no expenses because they let.
Speaker 4: Me use, let me rock and it was a success.
Speaker 5: So I tasted that success and then that gave me
Speaker 5: some more confidence, like, shit, I can do this because
Speaker 5: that player's ball I was. I thought I was gonna
Speaker 5: be one and done, so they let me do it,
Speaker 5: got some success, made made some money, and then I
Speaker 5: was like, maybe I can do this.
Speaker 4: And then ironically, Peter Thomas, he.
Speaker 5: Had a club called Bark Cole, and he's like, Mike,
Speaker 5: why don't you come on and start doing this weekly party.
Speaker 5: He was the first person to let me do a
Speaker 5: weekly party and it started from that back in two
Speaker 5: thousand and one.
Speaker 2: Now he thought, okay, here's a question, because there's always
Speaker 2: the Peter Thomas question or what he what he kind
Speaker 2: of stands on, and I think you can validate this
Speaker 2: is he the first black promoter to bring black parties
Speaker 2: to South Beach.
Speaker 5: Him and Luke him, and let me let me just
Speaker 5: say what it is him lose. Everything starts with un
Speaker 5: and we're not going to discredit them. But Peter, Peter
Speaker 5: had a spot on Fifth Street that he opened up,
Speaker 5: and it was called Fifth Street and it used to
Speaker 5: be where cross the street where Play was, remember play,
Speaker 5: So Peter had a spot across the across the street
Speaker 5: from Play. Luke maybe five six months after Peter had
Speaker 5: opened this spot, opened up Luke's on the Beach, and
Speaker 5: they said in my documentary, So it's what I'm speaking
Speaker 5: I believe is facts because I won the round back then.
Speaker 5: But Peter opened his first, then Luke opened his, and
Speaker 5: what drew more people to come into Miami's because they
Speaker 5: knew who Luke was as well. So Peter had it
Speaker 5: for the Caribbean market, so he was catered towards the Jamaicans,
Speaker 5: the the Trinidadians and all that, and then Luke was
Speaker 5: catering towards hip hop and American and then that's all
Speaker 5: they did, and it was crazy house. Peter and Luke said,
Speaker 5: like we as black people, we had come over to
Speaker 5: the beach, but stopped right there at Fifth Street. Never
Speaker 5: came into Washington Avenue Collins Avenue. We only went there
Speaker 5: and then we went back because you know, we wasn't
Speaker 5: we want a customer coming out to the beach because
Speaker 5: if you know, for so long, they wasn't even allowing
Speaker 5: us to come out on the beach.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they they wasn't allowing black people to really to
Speaker 5: come out on the beach unless you was a worker
Speaker 5: or if you had an ID card.
Speaker 4: Saying that you was working out here. Like it's a
Speaker 4: it's a deep story of leak Miami Beach.
Speaker 5: Man, it's crazy. Gotta might want to do some history that.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like, let me see your hotel room,
Speaker 5: let me see your hotel.
Speaker 2: Make Miami Beach great again, make Miamy these drives listen,
Speaker 2: they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't at this point, they don't care.
Speaker 2: I guess the just you know, in this life saving
Speaker 2: the adventure, when you got that Miami Dolphins Miami heat
Speaker 2: uh player's ball with no overhead.
Speaker 1: Correct that had that had to be very substantial.
Speaker 4: It was, and that's what gave me the confidence and
Speaker 4: like I can do.
Speaker 1: This, and the funding to move on to your next thing.
Speaker 1: Would making up for the first party.
Speaker 5: Making up for the first part because it was a
Speaker 5: it was a it was a ball player that played
Speaker 5: with you, and he had just got drafted, so he
Speaker 5: had he had some fresh money. He had a couple
Speaker 5: of million dollars had I ain't gonna say who he is,
Speaker 5: but he signed a multi million dollar deal in the NFL,
Speaker 5: and he gave me the money to form my first party,
Speaker 5: and I lost all this money. So of course my
Speaker 5: thing is I got to get this guy's money back,
Speaker 5: so that the Miami Heat and Dolphins party gave me
Speaker 5: a little bit of money to give him some money,
Speaker 5: but then hold some money to do another part.
Speaker 4: And I just kept doing them and stayed with it.
Speaker 4: And then Peter, like I said, gave me.
Speaker 5: A chance to do a weekly party because he was like,
Speaker 5: you're putting in all this this work for one party.
Speaker 4: Just keep it going. And it started to beat that.
Speaker 1: So was it under the Headliner Monica?
Speaker 4: Then now it was under.
Speaker 5: It was it was still called Headliner, but I called it, uh,
Speaker 5: it was under Professional Businessmen Association because I was having
Speaker 5: problems getting in the clubs, you know, as far as
Speaker 5: like you know, because back then a lot of people
Speaker 5: was using entertainment or this group, that group. So I
Speaker 5: went in thinking that I was going trick. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: this company is called Professional Businessmen Association.
Speaker 4: They want to do a party. But it wasn't working.
Speaker 4: Man that it wasn't working. None of that was work.
Speaker 4: And then and then when when you walk in and
Speaker 4: see okay it's headlined.
Speaker 5: Then and because of my cousin's barbershop, I just uh,
Speaker 5: I just I just ran with that. But I put
Speaker 5: the spin on it by saying Headlina Market Group got
Speaker 5: it just went from there.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't want to steal too much out of
Speaker 2: the documentary, but I gotta know how how you stumbled
Speaker 2: into We gotta know how you stumble in to Live
Speaker 2: on Sunday.
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta know how you get in there.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm gonna tell you so.
Speaker 5: And then they when they can it can be validated
Speaker 5: with the doc so they can see it in the
Speaker 5: dock and they because I got a lot of content
Speaker 5: and a lot of footage on how this happened and
Speaker 5: how it played out, So how I how I end
Speaker 5: up getting in too live. Me and Louis Oliver was
Speaker 5: doing Soul Kitchen Sundays.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: So we had a nice little four year run over there,
Speaker 5: and Live was about to open up, uh in the
Speaker 5: found Blue, So mow Garcia.
Speaker 4: Mo was a was a staple and Live for He.
Speaker 5: Then moved and down He's now running being a face
Speaker 5: out in Vegas at the Farm Blue out there. But
Speaker 5: Mo reached out to me like he knew my history,
Speaker 5: he knew what I was capable of doing because he
Speaker 5: I've done parties with him, and so he was one
Speaker 5: that wanted me to come and to live. They was
Speaker 5: like five months into Open and Live, and he was
Speaker 5: reaching out to me about doing a Thursday party at
Speaker 5: Live because I was me and Lewis was at the
Speaker 5: Forge on Sundays already, but so he was reaching out
Speaker 5: to me. And then I think Dave Grumman was talking
Speaker 5: to Lewis, but Dave and Moe didn't know that Dave
Speaker 5: was talking about a Sunday. Moe was talking about a Thursday.
Speaker 5: But we already sat at the Forge. But the Forge
Speaker 5: then was gray closed and going into renovation. So me
Speaker 5: and Lewis talked about it, like you know, we can
Speaker 5: go over to Live because people are already accustomed coming
Speaker 5: out on Sunday.
Speaker 4: The forger is right around the corner from the Found Blue.
Speaker 4: It'll be an easy thing.
Speaker 5: But one of my reservations with it was the Forge
Speaker 5: was like a dinner party first, then it turned into
Speaker 5: a club.
Speaker 4: It was amazing, experienced, man, it was. It was amazing.
Speaker 4: I can't lie it was amazing. It was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was amazing.
Speaker 5: But when we went over to Live, Live had just
Speaker 5: just while it wasn't a restaurant or intimate dinner party
Speaker 5: that turned into a club.
Speaker 4: It was just like this massive club. But I said
Speaker 4: to Louis, like.
Speaker 5: If we do come to Live, we do know what
Speaker 5: it's going to do, because think about it, they wasn't.
Speaker 5: It wasn't like Live waited until they was going on
Speaker 5: there downfall and like, all right, let's let's.
Speaker 4: Let these niggas in here. And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: They was they were gonna fresh, They was ready, they
Speaker 5: was opening. And I think that was one of the
Speaker 5: things that played a great success in the Live because
Speaker 5: it was new, and you know, we always feel like,
Speaker 5: you know, in the stigma of being in Miami, we
Speaker 5: couldn't go to these type of venues.
Speaker 4: We couldn't be in these type of venues. So to
Speaker 4: be in the Found Blue, that was.
Speaker 5: One of the biggest accomplishments because even thinking about back
Speaker 5: in the day where when you had Sammy Davis in
Speaker 5: the Rad Pack and all that going over the Found Blue,
Speaker 5: but they couldn't stay at the Found Blue. They had
Speaker 5: to go into Overtown to stay in the hotels there.
Speaker 5: So it was a big thing of us going into
Speaker 5: the Found Blue. And then when we signed that deal,
Speaker 5: it was like, oh shit, it's gonna happen for real, real,
Speaker 5: and you know it was. It took a minute. It
Speaker 5: didn't just blow up now. It took a minute because
Speaker 5: a lot of people still had some doubt, like we
Speaker 5: can go into the Final Blue. They letting us in there.
Speaker 5: So it took a minute before it got going. But
Speaker 5: when it got going, it's going.
Speaker 1: Do you remember who the first artist you had, the.
Speaker 5: Very the very first person on the that we did
Speaker 5: was Making Good. I had made a good host a
Speaker 5: party and Megan was was my first host.
Speaker 4: I lived and uh and a DJ and it was
Speaker 4: a chick DJ named DJ Kiss Making Good and djis.
Speaker 2: I got the Fly Party got oh sure, I had
Speaker 2: a first in Miami. Did I was the I was
Speaker 2: the first artist to host King of Diamonds.
Speaker 1: I know that's right. She want to throw that out there. Uh,
Speaker 1: shout out to Pops and everybody who brought me in.
Speaker 3: The Monday night who as as Wayne would say King
Speaker 3: of Diamonds.
Speaker 2: Who gave me the money to give back to him.
Speaker 2: I didn't manage that well. The girls look so yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so good.
Speaker 1: I've been. I've I've been with you. Man.
Speaker 3: When they when they hand when they hand you the
Speaker 3: money for the strip club and then you give it
Speaker 3: back to the strip club, I'm like no.
Speaker 1: Then they asked me like how much of this do
Speaker 1: you want? In once? I'm like, how much can I get?
Speaker 1: And then it turns into Jay, what you got on you?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you like me
Speaker 2: walking in to live and sing all of Cash Money
Speaker 2: in Young Money and.
Speaker 1: And I was like.
Speaker 2: And sing the venue itself. I hadn't seen a club
Speaker 2: like that, and I literally walked in. I was like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is this? And when I say it
Speaker 2: was up, I got there when it was up. So
Speaker 2: I didn't you know, as you say, you had the
Speaker 2: humble beginnings even in that spot. I never I never
Speaker 2: saw that. When I got there, it was.
Speaker 1: Scrag me too.
Speaker 2: It was like every LA party all in one. It
Speaker 2: was like guys and dolls, colony, everything all in one room.
Speaker 1: Wow. I was like, I have to be here. Now
Speaker 1: here's here's a question for you. Did you start? I mean,
Speaker 1: did you start the hip hop residency.
Speaker 5: Got We started from scratch and there was nothing before us.
Speaker 5: It was it was, it was, it was Yeah, from
Speaker 5: day one.
Speaker 1: It was us.
Speaker 2: Did you hear that, folks, the first hip hop res
Speaker 2: see We'll say it figure dog ain't gonna need you
Speaker 2: got to tell you who?
Speaker 1: It was? Right here? Yeah, right here. I felt that though.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that because then it started moving about and
Speaker 2: everybody now has residencies with you know, Zaid rappers had
Speaker 2: singers and all that stuff. But I remember specifically that
Speaker 2: you had some fixtures in there that made sure that
Speaker 2: every time we went to live it was an experience.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: I don't take that credit due, but now you should sure.
Speaker 2: First time I saw it exactly remembering clubs all over
Speaker 2: the world. First time I ever saw something consistent where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh they're they're the DJ. He's that Like
Speaker 2: all of that was fixed I knew what I was
Speaker 2: getting when I came to live for sure, and if
Speaker 2: there were any extras, And it was like that fixture
Speaker 2: was so ginormous that it made everybody I want to
Speaker 2: want to fall in line. Right, I kind of equated this,
Speaker 2: and this is gonna be a weird analogy.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: There's a spot I used to eat that in Maryland
Speaker 2: called the Chesapeake Based Seafood House. And at the Chesapeak
Speaker 2: bas Seafood House, there was all you can eat menu, right,
Speaker 2: and at the top of the all you can eat
Speaker 2: menu there was the crab legs, the most expensive item
Speaker 2: on the on the thing, but if you got the
Speaker 2: crab legs, you can get everything underneath the menu.
Speaker 1: For All you can Eat.
Speaker 2: Your fixture was the crab legs, the most epicsive thing
Speaker 2: on the menu. So at that point, everything underneath the
Speaker 2: menu would fall in line with the top of what's
Speaker 2: on the top of the menu, of course, because you
Speaker 2: at the top of the food chain already in the building.
Speaker 2: So everybody else under all you can Eat menu was like,
Speaker 2: we have to be in there. We have to because
Speaker 2: we want to be on the play too. We want
Speaker 2: to be part of All you can.
Speaker 4: Eat is it working.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's not. It's not I want it
Speaker 1: to work. It wasn't my guy and I wanted to work.
Speaker 1: I don't know how live in crab legs.
Speaker 3: I want to get down to the business side of yes, right,
Speaker 3: because the reason why you're here obviously you're our guy,
Speaker 3: and we you know, we want to celebrate you in
Speaker 3: what you've done in this game, but we also want
Speaker 3: you to give the information to like these young promoters
Speaker 3: or even even promoters that's in it that might not
Speaker 3: be doing it right, Like how do you get to
Speaker 3: this space? What do you feel like are the important
Speaker 3: or just a couple of the important keys to being
Speaker 3: a successful promotion company.
Speaker 6: M h.
Speaker 5: I'm always willing to to share that that information, so
Speaker 5: it ain't no secret. Like for me, I've always said
Speaker 5: to those who maybe reach out to me in DM
Speaker 5: or they'll stop me in the middle of the club
Speaker 5: or whatnot, I always say, man, it's just being humble,
Speaker 5: because you got to understand that in this.
Speaker 4: Game, we need the people. The people don't need us.
Speaker 5: It's not like I'm selling gasoline or power, Like where
Speaker 5: you need me, they don't need me. They can go
Speaker 5: to any other club, any other party they want. So
Speaker 5: it's just just main maintaining the level of humbleness and
Speaker 5: being yourself. Like I this night life can get you
Speaker 5: caught up, man, Like it can get you caught up.
Speaker 1: Were you ever one of the promoters who would jump
Speaker 1: on the mic.
Speaker 4: No, because I wouldn't jump on the mic.
Speaker 5: I don't even know if me and this brother got
Speaker 5: a picture like that was never my thing though, But
Speaker 5: that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I've never thought about it.
Speaker 5: But I'm trying to I don't know if we I
Speaker 5: don't well whatever I say that to say, like, just
Speaker 5: just being you and not getting caught up in this game.
Speaker 4: Because this this this night life, it's.
Speaker 1: It is what it is.
Speaker 4: It can be full of. See, it can be full of.
Speaker 5: When you mixing alcohol, ego, money, celebrities, women late night.
Speaker 5: If you don't be humble and stay grounded, it'll tear
Speaker 5: your ass up, like because I've seen it. I've seen
Speaker 5: it with so many different people and a lot of
Speaker 5: promo some promoters, I ain't gonna say a lot of them.
Speaker 5: Some promoters come in this for the women. Some of
Speaker 5: them come in it for the hype. Oh I can
Speaker 5: get you into this party. I can get you in
Speaker 5: that party. But I've always maintained like for me, it's
Speaker 5: just been about business, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 5: I wanna this is a I've been I've been blessed
Speaker 5: to do this, so I want to treat it like
Speaker 5: a business.
Speaker 4: Like I try not to get caught up into the
Speaker 4: the hype of it.
Speaker 5: And that's why I say, like, sometimes I very seldom
Speaker 5: take pictures like I got this little funny story real quick,
Speaker 5: like it was a it was a I ain't gonna
Speaker 5: say how long ago it was because I don't really
Speaker 5: I vaguely remember, but I remember one time I had
Speaker 5: went to give Future his money.
Speaker 4: Now I've done.
Speaker 5: So many parties with Future up until this point, but
Speaker 5: me and Future never really met. So it was one
Speaker 5: time when I end up having to take him his
Speaker 5: money myself. And when he's seen me, he was like,
Speaker 5: you might I thought you was white, And that shit
Speaker 5: blew my mind because he couldn't he couldn't see a
Speaker 5: black man. The done live like on the on the
Speaker 5: level and we talk about it right now, so it
Speaker 5: ain't no big secret.
Speaker 4: But and that kind of.
Speaker 5: That kind of made me be like, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 5: am I doing something wrong or do I need to
Speaker 5: let it be no more because it can't affect the
Speaker 5: business when people don't know who's really doing it, because
Speaker 5: that opens up the door for others to come in
Speaker 5: and the like.
Speaker 2: It being you a black man gives give valid gives
Speaker 2: validation to other black men coming up correct trying to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: It's very much important that they know it is you are.
Speaker 3: And and something to and something to look up to
Speaker 3: and something to aspire to, right because I'll speak from
Speaker 3: the business side, right of the business, from from their
Speaker 3: artists standpoint of me dealing with tank and dealing with
Speaker 3: artists that I've worked with.
Speaker 1: And having to deal with promoters. It is usually.
Speaker 3: The hardest part for us because it's very it's very
Speaker 3: seldom you find real businessmen and business women who are
Speaker 3: about their business right that who handle their business who
Speaker 3: the money is never funny. You're not chasing this promoter
Speaker 3: throughout the club. They're not drunk, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 3: They don't come to your room smelling like we trying
Speaker 3: to drop off the money that looks like you don't
Speaker 3: know where it came from, like seriously, like because as
Speaker 3: black people, we also have to we have to audit ourselves,
Speaker 3: and a lot of times we try to get past.
Speaker 1: That of like, nah, man, that's just a no. Business
Speaker 1: is business.
Speaker 3: Business is business, and we should handle ourselves accordingly and
Speaker 3: we should like in my phone, I would listen. This
Speaker 3: is something I've never said before, but in my phone
Speaker 3: there is a do not do business section. Oh wow,
Speaker 3: I literally have people in my phone that I will
Speaker 3: not do business with HM. And we've had that and Mike,
Speaker 3: you know me, I am an upfront person. If they
Speaker 3: call me, I tell them that now we can't do
Speaker 3: we can't do that, Champ. And they try to figure
Speaker 3: out a way to call Tank, who didn't calls me
Speaker 3: and I'm like, Tank, do you remember up in A
Speaker 3: B and C and a BBNC And He's like, ah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Bro.
Speaker 3: We can't do business no more, right because I don't
Speaker 3: want to have my business partner in those type of situations.
Speaker 3: I don't want him looking for the promoter and Jay,
Speaker 3: did you did you talk to and did they? Because
Speaker 3: we already know for three or four times because it
Speaker 3: hasn't just been some people where it's just like oh
Speaker 3: it's a one time thing. You show grace and we have.
Speaker 3: We've done that multiple times with multiple people. We've shown grace,
Speaker 3: but then it gets to a point where it's just
Speaker 3: like you just don't do business.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's because it's a party. And
Speaker 5: sometimes you know, people get confused that, oh it's they
Speaker 5: thinking it's just a party. They don't think it of
Speaker 5: it as business. They don't look at it as business,
Speaker 5: and they think that they can just handle it at
Speaker 5: their own pace time like, and I try not to
Speaker 5: do that with y'all, man, not just with with Tank,
Speaker 5: but with everyone, because there's a level of consistency that
Speaker 5: you got to have when you conducting business. But I've
Speaker 5: always said it, man, people think this party shop is
Speaker 5: just a party.
Speaker 4: They don't look at it as a business.
Speaker 5: Like the liquor got to be paid, the lights got
Speaker 5: to be paid, the DJ got to be paid, the waitresses,
Speaker 5: the security, those couches.
Speaker 4: Ain't free, like.
Speaker 1: Somebody got to pay. Somebody got to pay for it.
Speaker 4: But it's it's, it's it's I don't complain though, man, Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I'm happy. I'm in a good space.
Speaker 5: Man. I'm blessed and thankful for the opportunities I have, man,
Speaker 5: especially and be surrounded and acknowledged by brothers like y'all.
Speaker 4: Man, I definitely appreciate.
Speaker 5: It that that they can see that they can expand
Speaker 5: outside of the club, outside of business, because I want
Speaker 5: to say, like to both of y'all man, like you know,
Speaker 5: as the promoter, sometimes we don't we don't get the
Speaker 5: just due of like, not only are we promoting the artists,
Speaker 5: we're paying the artists.
Speaker 4: It works for everyone.
Speaker 5: But I want to commend y'all forgiven me this moment
Speaker 5: of this because it says a lot, man, especially when
Speaker 5: I've been doing this for twenty two years. This is
Speaker 5: the first time I think that I've ever had a real.
Speaker 1: One on one.
Speaker 5: Publicly with someone that I've been doing business with for
Speaker 5: so long. So I want to I want to thank
Speaker 5: y'all for this opportunity.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Straight absolutely, let's speak about expansion, you know, because.
Speaker 3: Before we go expansion, I'm gonna tell you when I realize,
Speaker 3: all right, I can make some things move get I
Speaker 3: get a text one night and this is this is
Speaker 3: This is interesting too, because this is when you kind
Speaker 3: of realize, you know, you've had an impactful relationship with somebody,
Speaker 3: sometimes without even knowing. Years back years years back, I
Speaker 3: get I get a text. Young lady text me it's
Speaker 3: one of those weekends in Miami and it's crazy and
Speaker 3: I'm not in Miami.
Speaker 1: And the text says, hey, you think you can help
Speaker 1: me get in to live? What a text? Right?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, and this is literally just just a homegirl.
Speaker 3: What no, no, nothing had I could have I could
Speaker 3: have completely ignored her. But I'm like, she' the homie.
Speaker 3: She cool people.
Speaker 1: I text Mike.
Speaker 3: And at this point like, me and Mike cool, but
Speaker 3: you know, and you've said it Mallyon times, I don't
Speaker 3: really come outside as much, so sometimes they don't even
Speaker 3: know I'm the actual manager, right, So because there's some
Speaker 3: guys who say they managed Tank that don't manage Tank.
Speaker 1: So Mike kissed me back. I text him. I'm like, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I can tell he busy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? But he's like, what's her name? What she
Speaker 1: looked like?
Speaker 3: I said my picture of her? Right, He's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 3: I got her. He go out to look for the
Speaker 3: funniest shit. He go out to look for he can't
Speaker 3: find her. I text her back, I'm like, my guy's
Speaker 3: looking for you, blah blah blah. She text me back
Speaker 3: she's already walked into the club, which said basketball player.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: I text Mike back, high girl summer. I still like
Speaker 1: it's the funniest.
Speaker 3: But I was like the fact that the fact that
Speaker 3: Mike would do that for me though, I was like,
Speaker 3: he really rock with me. He really rock with me.
Speaker 3: You know, I made an impact. I'm good in my hand.
Speaker 3: Now let's talk about expansion.
Speaker 1: Expansion.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm in my mind, I'm like, I'm the
Speaker 2: general of R and B.
Speaker 1: I am I am. I am part of the revolution.
Speaker 1: You say in your mind.
Speaker 4: Who you are?
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying this ship for you.
Speaker 2: I'm going back to the time to where he was expanding,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I am R and B. I am
Speaker 2: him at its core, and we are you know, we
Speaker 2: are just kind of you know, spotting doing R and
Speaker 2: B parties and DJ and stuff like that. And I've
Speaker 2: seen something come across my uh you know, my algorithms
Speaker 2: do wop, Who's.
Speaker 1: Doing this, Who's doing.
Speaker 2: Who's and what does it mean if you and Mike
Speaker 2: him be like like, listen, man, you got to pull
Speaker 2: up to I do man all day? R and B
Speaker 2: party is something you need to see. I said, it
Speaker 2: is something I need to see you in my area.
Speaker 1: And I remember was that the around the time he
Speaker 1: was doing drink chaps that you did? Was it for that?
Speaker 3: But it was at it was at a spot, yes,
Speaker 3: yeahfore and so I can't remember what day it was.
Speaker 2: I just happened to be there and it was a
Speaker 2: due up going on, and I said, Mike, I'm pulling
Speaker 2: up and about I'm coming over.
Speaker 1: He said, don't worry about nothing. We got you.
Speaker 2: And you know, the car stopped short line is crazy,
Speaker 2: you know, like what is this? He's like, come on,
Speaker 2: I got you. Were walking in. I think you walked
Speaker 2: me through the front. He walks me through the front
Speaker 2: of the club, just to make sure I see what's happening.
Speaker 2: Woll this ron Eisley.
Speaker 1: Song is yeah, and that time the club anyway, I'm walking,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a B party. He's like this.
Speaker 1: I said, cut me in and cut it out. Hey man,
Speaker 1: you were so excited. I want to be in. What
Speaker 1: do you need me to do?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Fly, I play some of my songs. I'm singing tonight.
Speaker 1: I was off, but I'm willing to work.
Speaker 2: And and I just you know, and I appreciate you
Speaker 2: because you know that is that is your thing. That
Speaker 2: is that it's something that you guys created and put
Speaker 2: together that I just thought was so amazing that I
Speaker 2: just I just jumped on the truck. I just I
Speaker 2: just said, man, I'm getting in the car, Man open
Speaker 2: up me in And I just jumped in the car
Speaker 2: and I'm just along for the ride. And I appreciate
Speaker 2: you allowing me just to be along for this do
Speaker 2: wop ride. Can you just speak to even the conversation
Speaker 2: to get to expand into that R and B space.
Speaker 5: I I mean after doing Live and Story and all
Speaker 5: these parties for so long, I mean, we get older.
Speaker 5: And that's what happened with me. I got older and
Speaker 5: to the point to where especially Live on Sunday became
Speaker 5: just live on Sunday. It's this business. And not saying
Speaker 5: that I didn't enjoy myself there still, but it just
Speaker 5: I wanted something different, especially fifteen years later, and what
Speaker 5: do I do at home?
Speaker 4: I listened to R and B. I drink my wine.
Speaker 4: I listened to I want to have a good time.
Speaker 3: Now You're Chicago bro like that people Chicago and R
Speaker 3: and B music like it's a real thing.
Speaker 1: You could be the most gangster nigga in.
Speaker 3: The world from do I got the wild Huntings of
Speaker 3: Chicago and you're still gonna be playing.
Speaker 1: Some R and B music that it just is what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 5: It is what it is, man, And I think that's
Speaker 5: just in me because I was I was born in
Speaker 5: in in Centralia, Illinois. And I know you're from Milwaukee, right,
Speaker 5: that Midwest because I used to live in Milwaukee too.
Speaker 5: I was living in Milwaukee for a couple of years
Speaker 5: I lived and they know how you a couple of years.
Speaker 5: My mom was like a she was like a rolling
Speaker 5: stone for real. But so I got that that Midwest
Speaker 5: inmy It's embedded in me.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna get your.
Speaker 1: Get him now because you have to Milwaukee now.
Speaker 2: Time man, Clippers, it's crazy Clippers lebron stand Okay, it's
Speaker 2: just okay.
Speaker 1: Time Jersey on the way here.
Speaker 4: Heavy statement, but I say that.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to create something that I can enjoy
Speaker 5: and and then give it back to the people like you.
Speaker 5: You you came to my Overtime Music and Arts festival,
Speaker 5: and that festival it was free to the community, but
Speaker 5: it was really arm be Overton and just to see
Speaker 5: the joy on people's faces.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: And this was back then, and so I wanted to
Speaker 5: create that in a party setting, and I've tried it
Speaker 5: in the past, but a lot of the club owners
Speaker 5: they wasn't They wasn't buying it, they wasn't hearing it.
Speaker 5: They didn't want to If I ain't doing these live numbers,
Speaker 5: then it didn't make sense to them.
Speaker 4: But my man Angel over a racket. He gave me
Speaker 4: a shot.
Speaker 5: He was like, I'm gonna let you come in and
Speaker 5: do it so and I told him it's gonna work.
Speaker 5: It may take some time, but it's gonna work. But
Speaker 5: that first night, man, that first that first day, because
Speaker 5: it was a day party, because I know with us
Speaker 5: being older and those that I felt that would come out,
Speaker 5: let me get you in here earlier. If you have
Speaker 5: a good time, you can go home like you ain't
Speaker 5: missing shit. You ain't got to stay out until three
Speaker 5: four o'clock in the morning. But that very first one,
Speaker 5: it was money and I felt like we had something.
Speaker 5: And because just seeing that people dance and sing along
Speaker 5: and having a good time, there ain't no stress. You
Speaker 5: ain't got worried about it. If you gotta buy a
Speaker 5: table or nothing. You just coming in there genuinely to
Speaker 5: have a good time. And it went from that from
Speaker 5: being once a month to okay, now let me expand it,
Speaker 5: let me go on the road. And I have always
Speaker 5: said this, I want to say it now on your platform.
Speaker 5: This brother, right here is what little Wayne was for
Speaker 5: living on Sunday by stamping it. He's what he is
Speaker 5: to the doot is what Lil Wayne. And so I'm
Speaker 5: indebted to you, just as I am with Wayne for
Speaker 5: living on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Because you came in and you stamped it.
Speaker 5: Man, I appreciate when y'all talk about it on the show,
Speaker 5: even when I'm not here.
Speaker 4: Y'all you y'all support that do wop. So I man,
Speaker 4: I'm thankful for y'all.
Speaker 1: So he is the.
Speaker 5: Unofficial official founder president of the So he was like, shit,
Speaker 5: it ain't nothing.
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't do it without him.
Speaker 5: So he if it's something that he say, ain't Mike, Man,
Speaker 5: we're gonna make this as a du wop.
Speaker 4: I'm almost gonna have to do it. Like I can't
Speaker 4: say no to him. I can't at this point.
Speaker 5: Now, you as the manager, you may be like Hey,
Speaker 5: hold up, Mike said, you can't say no, so ship
Speaker 5: his birthday January first.
Speaker 4: Man, I gotta be careful how I say that. But no, Man,
Speaker 4: that that due Man. I love that due Man Me
Speaker 4: and fly Guy.
Speaker 5: It's just something Guy, It's just it's amazing, man like
Speaker 5: and being able to go back and seeing some of
Speaker 5: the footage. Man, and you genuinely was just having a
Speaker 5: good time. It wasn't about nothing like and I'd use
Speaker 5: the clip a couple of times in the promotion where
Speaker 5: you was like, listen, man, I just came to have
Speaker 5: a good time. But if you play one of my songs,
Speaker 5: I may be compelled to. And it just took off, man,
Speaker 5: because people wasn't expecting it. And now so when I
Speaker 5: do the do wop, they don't know who's going to
Speaker 5: be there, what's going to happen, and it just happened.
Speaker 4: The only time I.
Speaker 5: Really do a host is in a large enough space,
Speaker 5: but when I'm in a small intimate spot, it's just
Speaker 5: a do wop and they come because they want to
Speaker 5: have a good time.
Speaker 1: It's always a good time.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 2: You are a busy man. We appreciate the time. We
Speaker 2: appreciate you pulling up. But you know, there's there's a
Speaker 2: little more information I think we need from you right
Speaker 2: before you get out of here. As you as you
Speaker 2: say you listen to this R and B. That's what
Speaker 2: he said, you know, he said when he goes home Wine.
Speaker 2: That's what he says. That's a mixtape that we do
Speaker 2: together for the Wopping Wine and R and B send
Speaker 2: it by the do Wop. I'm just spitballing him.
Speaker 1: Okay. We gotta have a genius wine. You know, we
Speaker 1: just spitballing. Okay, Mike Gardner, mm hmm. Who are your
Speaker 1: top five R and B artists?
Speaker 5: Listen, man, that's an easy question, and it's it's a
Speaker 5: little bit more than five. So if you're on mind,
Speaker 5: let me just say who they are. And I'm gonna
Speaker 5: start out number one with you. Then I'm gonna say Neil.
Speaker 5: Then i'm gonna say Mario. Then i'm gonna say Trey Yeah,
Speaker 5: say Chris yeah, and you know, more recent, I also
Speaker 5: gotta say Jamie yeah yeah. And then i'm gonna say Brent,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna say bryceon Taylor.
Speaker 4: You really want to know why I say those?
Speaker 5: Look, I say those because they all participated in the
Speaker 5: doo and they support me, so I'm gonna support them.
Speaker 4: So those are my top R.
Speaker 1: And B top eight eight. Yeah, I don't know how many,
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You know my calculator, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Those gates, those are my those are mine.
Speaker 5: So I got I just gotta, I just gotta put
Speaker 5: that out there. But you know, I am a I'm
Speaker 5: a I'm a I'm a big Kelly fan, I'm a
Speaker 5: big Marvin Gay fan.
Speaker 1: And uh, I just but those are my top Okay,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: I don't want to I don't want to dumb it down.
Speaker 4: Those are my top.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, that's your world, your world. Top five R
Speaker 1: and B songs.
Speaker 4: Top five arm B songs.
Speaker 5: I thought about this because I've been asked this question
Speaker 5: so many times over the years since doing this du
Speaker 5: op and it's genuinely hard to say. And I know
Speaker 5: I gotta answer it because you're asking me. But it's hard, brother,
Speaker 5: it's a hard thing. So like off the top of
Speaker 5: my head, like i'm a let me, let me, nah, man.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be hard. That's gonna be hard. That's gonna
Speaker 4: be hard. You have to hear women say that again.
Speaker 1: Five songs that you have to hear at the opper.
Speaker 3: You're gonna go and text somebody or go literally cut
Speaker 3: somebody out because you record you was looking.
Speaker 5: For Okay, So if it's if it's if it's like that,
Speaker 5: let me let me, let me say it then. So
Speaker 5: my top five songs that you gotta play at the duop.
Speaker 5: You gotta play Yearning for Your Love. Come on, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I gotta hear My Life for Mary Jay. You gotta
Speaker 5: play Usher Superstar, Yes, I gotta play R Kelly. Seems
Speaker 5: like you're ready and you gotta play when we.
Speaker 2: Ah man, Yeah, you like, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: know what. I made two lists today. Just you know,
Speaker 2: good things are happening on the horizon. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm gonna do after this, you know,
Speaker 2: hang out on the beach yourself. You know.
Speaker 1: That's that's how I'm feeling.
Speaker 4: Right, I know that's right.
Speaker 2: I love all those songs too. And and I've been
Speaker 2: there when you've when we not only made the request,
Speaker 2: but you pressed the button. Now now, oh my wife,
Speaker 2: because about about to play, Let's do a Vultron. A
Speaker 2: Vultron is your super R and B artist, The R
Speaker 2: and B artist that you make. We want to know
Speaker 2: who you would get the vocal from, who you would
Speaker 2: get the performance style from, who you would get the
Speaker 2: styling from, and who you would get the passion of
Speaker 2: the artists from you're making your super R and B artist.
Speaker 2: Who is the one artist you would get the vocal from?
Speaker 1: Does it?
Speaker 4: Does it matter if they living?
Speaker 1: Just mix it up whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4: That's a tough can we just can we can?
Speaker 1: We can?
Speaker 5: We say male, then female? Because I got my vote
Speaker 5: tron men. Then I got my vote tron women.
Speaker 1: I like your style.
Speaker 5: Let me let me, let me let me say my
Speaker 5: my men. I like Neil hm hmm yeah vocally and
Speaker 5: I'm going with current.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do, Neil. Okay, now performance style.
Speaker 4: Performance style, c B yeah, yeah yeah?
Speaker 1: Who you feed? Young man?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Styling?
Speaker 4: Styling you okay?
Speaker 1: Alright, silky. I say that.
Speaker 5: A lot of the shows I've gone to that you
Speaker 5: have been to, I mean that you participated in and
Speaker 5: some of the others that I've seen, You're gonna make
Speaker 5: them appreciate looking at you, and I say that humbly.
Speaker 5: I'm a grown man, so I can say it ain't
Speaker 5: it is what it is so the styling of it.
Speaker 5: And we're not talking about colorful costume performances, hats, and
Speaker 5: it's just your you're flying this with it?
Speaker 1: What else? Passion?
Speaker 4: The passion, I don't know about that one.
Speaker 5: That's a tough one because because because I see I
Speaker 5: see so much passion and a lot of the and
Speaker 5: in these artists man, like especially with R and B. Now,
Speaker 5: if this was hip hop, I will tell you I
Speaker 5: can't answer it. I'm because of I don't see that.
Speaker 5: It's just I don't want to say the wrong answer.
Speaker 4: Right, it ain't wrong. It may be a wrong answer
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: No wrong answers. It's just today. It may change tomorrow,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey man, that's a tough one. Man.
Speaker 1: Did somebody you know that really mean it?
Speaker 3: Somebody you notice up there sweating and somebody working hard
Speaker 3: that you.
Speaker 1: Like, you know what?
Speaker 5: He he deserved this spot, that he because he really
Speaker 5: wanted this. Oh then I'm gonna have to say, Tank Brown,
Speaker 5: Tank Brown.
Speaker 7: This isn't gonna be doing damn you, Chris Babs, you know,
Speaker 7: you know, you know you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Answer now? You know me and me and Chris Brown,
Speaker 1: we work together, yall.
Speaker 4: My guys man as well.
Speaker 1: You mean, listen, he means it so much.
Speaker 2: He's so dedicated to the crimean it's it's so in
Speaker 2: his heart. He can't stop, right, he won't stop. I
Speaker 2: just hurd thirteen new song thirteen. I know, man, he
Speaker 2: picked those thirteen from one thousand. I'm just telling you,
Speaker 2: like that he did in two weeks.
Speaker 1: He means it. We do. Okay, let's go. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the to the to the.
Speaker 4: Young lady, to the young lady. Yes, yes, vocally, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go with Whitney. Yes, I think I can.
Speaker 5: I think I can say that performing style, performing style.
Speaker 5: I think I can go with b Yeah. Yeah, the styling.
Speaker 4: And and it ain't my style, but I know she
Speaker 4: that's her thing and it's a what's the word connected style.
Speaker 4: I would have to go with Erica.
Speaker 1: I think I thought that. I've just seen a video
Speaker 1: of her performing the other day. She had the chicks out, shout.
Speaker 4: Out, and then the passion.
Speaker 5: And I thought about this because you know, and I
Speaker 5: felt like this would be a question which which who
Speaker 5: has the passion in regards to the women.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go with Mary Franklin. With frank Franklin.
Speaker 1: I think you're the first to create two hybrids. Bro,
Speaker 1: that's fire. Come on. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So before we let you go, yes, we got to
Speaker 3: get to this important part. Uh brought to you by
Speaker 3: the valance.
Speaker 1: Smell so beautiful? Don't you agree? It won't blow out
Speaker 1: just watching lines? It wasn't here at the beginning that episode.
Speaker 3: I got a text for management that's here. Put your
Speaker 3: goddamn can on the table. But we got this very
Speaker 3: important segment of the show. It's called I ain't saying
Speaker 3: no names. You tell us a story funny or fucked up?
Speaker 3: Are funny and fucked up? The only rule to the
Speaker 3: game is you can't say no names.
Speaker 4: That's that's a that's I got many of those. Yea.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna point this one now because and because you
Speaker 4: can't say the name. Okay, okay, it's be up to
Speaker 4: the to the gear of the person who hears this. Yes, man,
Speaker 4: I seen this guy. Damn. I already gave a little
Speaker 4: bit of it the way by saying it was a guy.
Speaker 5: But I seen this guy man physically assault another guy,
Speaker 5: another artist.
Speaker 4: It was fucked up. I leave it at that.
Speaker 1: For no reason.
Speaker 5: Nah, I mean, we we all know what the reason was.
Speaker 5: I think the public knows what the reason was. But
Speaker 5: I'm just going along with this game, y'all playing what
Speaker 5: was the center?
Speaker 1: What led to it?
Speaker 4: Outside? Yeah, I lead that lead right here. You said funny.
Speaker 4: It wasn't funny, it was fucked up. It was fucked
Speaker 4: up that it happened.
Speaker 5: Now a funny one, then get off that because it's
Speaker 5: silent in here, man, making me nervous.
Speaker 4: Man, I got to like.
Speaker 1: You're talking about I can think of.
Speaker 4: Talking about silent.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's too silent man. But funny, Let me
Speaker 4: let me get a funny one out.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: The funny one I think is saying no names. Guy
Speaker 5: trying to get up on the stage and live, and
Speaker 5: he took a tumble.
Speaker 4: That was funny.
Speaker 5: It was fucked up that it happened, But it was
Speaker 5: funny because of the guy who somebody took.
Speaker 4: Yeah, trying to get up on that stage to do
Speaker 4: here's a hard thing, sing took a tumble.
Speaker 2: The question is, yeah, did they tumbled back into the
Speaker 2: djo they take the.
Speaker 5: Long tumble down to the Now they took the tumble
Speaker 5: back into the booth. I think they missed that step.
Speaker 5: So as they got up the Yeah, they tumbled backwards
Speaker 5: because that tumble to that tumble to the different would
Speaker 5: have been definitely way different. That would have been different.
Speaker 3: It would turn the funny to fucked up complete after
Speaker 3: the ambulance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's my question, because every time I'm like sitting
Speaker 2: in the booth, I'm looking at those stairs and I'm like,
Speaker 2: those stairs are fire hazard for anyone who's had two
Speaker 2: to three beverages.
Speaker 1: Has anyone taken that long for you fall all long?
Speaker 5: They didn't make it all the way down, but they
Speaker 5: I've seen it, and it's now that's funny because it's
Speaker 5: fucked up.
Speaker 4: It's funny.
Speaker 5: And this one particular female, man, it's she took the
Speaker 5: tumble and and a little bit of that hair got
Speaker 5: got caught up in that stair, and it was it
Speaker 5: was coming off.
Speaker 4: Has she got down a few more, it would have
Speaker 4: been off. She was able to the stairs held it. Now,
Speaker 4: that was funny. If it would have came off, it
Speaker 4: would have been sucked up.
Speaker 3: We got something though, and this is something that I
Speaker 3: was Man, I almost did not bring this up, almost
Speaker 3: forgot to bring it up. One of the greatest parties
Speaker 3: I have ever been to Jamie Fox's fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 1: Oh, Jamie Fox.
Speaker 3: Birthday, live on Sunday, not at live on Sunday. And
Speaker 3: what I mean by that, people is somehow these men,
Speaker 3: these amazing men, recreated live on a studio lot in
Speaker 3: Los Angeles for Jamie Fox's fifty birthday.
Speaker 1: I will never forget that night. Absolutely, I had a time.
Speaker 1: I had a time. Man.
Speaker 2: Can you please see the idea was coming up when
Speaker 2: it was talking about the idea, Yeah, And I said,
Speaker 2: Brie and shout out to Bri. I said, Brewn, you
Speaker 2: know you gotta call Mike already. So you gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta call Mike. You got you know you gotta call
Speaker 2: Oh no, we are.
Speaker 1: Right now, I said, because there's no way there's to
Speaker 1: live anywhere in the world without my card. There's no way,
Speaker 1: there's no way. By I literally recreated the club man.
Speaker 5: It was amazing and it and what he's saying is
Speaker 5: true because I got him in just in the dot
Speaker 5: mm hmm. That scene is a scene in the documentary
Speaker 5: where he was telling Brionn like.
Speaker 4: Hey man, listen, Fox called me.
Speaker 5: He's saying he was thinking about we're gonna do live
Speaker 5: in l A And he said, I told Fox, I said,
Speaker 5: I don't think you can do live with ourt headliner.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be forever and then to you, brother, forever.
Speaker 4: So to see him recreate that, man, that was.
Speaker 5: That was one of those moments where I was like,
Speaker 5: do I open up my shirt and shoulder ass on
Speaker 5: my chest from that one because that was that was like, man,
Speaker 5: he recreated a whole party and it was amazing, man,
Speaker 5: and the borderline kind of looked like Live Man, Little Spider.
Speaker 1: Ship in the sky. It was.
Speaker 4: It was everything, man.
Speaker 5: It was the two levels, the couches in the middle
Speaker 5: of the DJ booth, they even had the makeshift stairs.
Speaker 4: It was that shit was dope.
Speaker 1: No to the point where like Tank was like I'm
Speaker 1: going to the stage and I'm like I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna watch.
Speaker 3: I literally just stayed at the table and I was
Speaker 3: just like, Yo, this is insane. The craziest sh it is.
Speaker 3: This was at the same time that Snowfall had just
Speaker 3: come out. Around the same time Snowfall just come out,
Speaker 3: and it was the kid Dampson Damnson and then the easy,
Speaker 3: the easy little kid from Snowfall. I'm sorry, brother, I'm
Speaker 3: forgetting your name they were at the table, but they
Speaker 3: were just kind of walking around because nobody really knew
Speaker 3: them yet, right, And you know that moment, that's that
Speaker 3: that real l a worldwide club ship where it's just
Speaker 3: like oh yeah yeah, and then somebody taps you and
Speaker 3: goes yo, you know this is oh shit, I saw
Speaker 3: you on the Okay man gets something drink.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: It was one of the moments and I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 3: I'm like that nigga became the biggest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: This show became you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: All this was at this Jamie Fox lived fiftieth birthday
Speaker 3: and I'm literally just I'm watching the stage from from
Speaker 3: our from our table, and I'm just I'm just a spectator.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not going up there.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna stay here and I'm gonna enjoy the
Speaker 3: show and all the shit that's going on around.
Speaker 4: It was dope and and how it was curated.
Speaker 5: It was like Live on Sunday, like where all the
Speaker 5: artists get on stage and you don't know who performed.
Speaker 4: Because even for me at that party, I've never.
Speaker 5: Seen ice Cube perform at the club. And when ice
Speaker 5: Cube came out, man, I lost my mind, man.
Speaker 4: And it was it was it was cute, man, It
Speaker 4: was that was no that party was crazy.
Speaker 5: And I think that's just again, that's just the testaments
Speaker 5: to the support that the people give. And you know him,
Speaker 5: you know, whether he wanted to do it or it
Speaker 5: was an idea, he still went through with it and
Speaker 5: made it happen. It was it just, man, that type
Speaker 5: of ship be meaning a lot to me.
Speaker 1: Well, brother, Mike, you are.
Speaker 2: You are the curator at the highest level of making
Speaker 2: sure that the music has has has a beautiful place
Speaker 2: to live, man, and has a beautiful place to live.
Speaker 1: Did you hear what I doing right there? You wrote
Speaker 1: a song with you and you're like, oh, it's just
Speaker 1: roll just you know, but then you.
Speaker 2: But then you expanding and growing into that R and
Speaker 2: B space. Man, I can't thank you enough. I can't
Speaker 2: thank you enough for that. And like I know you
Speaker 2: see the pod, but even off of the pod, you
Speaker 2: don't know how many R and B singers we tell
Speaker 2: or producers, Hey.
Speaker 1: You need to get to that.
Speaker 2: Du I told baby baby Face you better get down
Speaker 2: to that. Do I'm telling you, Charlie Wilson, you better
Speaker 2: get to that. Do Walp I'm trying to take you,
Speaker 2: like just letting everybody know, you know, like there is
Speaker 2: a place, there is a place, a magical place where
Speaker 2: our music is. King and Queen, I promise you, and
Speaker 2: and you've done that, man, so we thank you. Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: you know, of course it's always home for you. This
Speaker 2: is you know, your family. So whatever you need, if
Speaker 2: you need us to put one of your you know,
Speaker 2: one of your promotional items right.
Speaker 1: Right next to the canto we.
Speaker 4: Got because it's my turn. I like that.
Speaker 5: I do want to say though, like you know what
Speaker 5: you say in regards to the R and B and
Speaker 5: you can just let me get forty seven seconds to
Speaker 5: clear this up. Like I never I don't feel like
Speaker 5: we started the R and B parties when we started
Speaker 5: to do because I was doing the R and B
Speaker 5: party back in two thousand and five. But it's what
Speaker 5: I think has happened though, which is great for everyone,
Speaker 5: including all the R and B artists and everything. It's
Speaker 5: just been this movement now of R and B parties,
Speaker 5: and I think it's great and I command all the
Speaker 5: promoters across the world that's taking their chance to do
Speaker 5: these R and B parties because it's given life tonight,
Speaker 5: life as opposed to just going standing on couch is
Speaker 5: spending money, throwing money. Now we can get back to
Speaker 5: the essence of having a good time. And whether I
Speaker 5: want to take the credit of starting it, I'm not,
Speaker 5: but I know that, you know, a lot of the
Speaker 5: promoters that I see doing it now they feel like
Speaker 5: it's okay because they see that I took a chance
Speaker 5: on doing it coming from a place of Live on Sunday. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so I think with the R and B parties, man,
Speaker 5: it's good for everybody and uh and and it's good
Speaker 5: for night life. So I did want to say that
Speaker 5: because I don't want a lot of people thinking that
Speaker 5: I'm taking the credit for these R and B parties.
Speaker 4: I'm just stamping my my my place in it.
Speaker 2: What the beauty of what your of your R and
Speaker 2: B party is that it's it's really an R and
Speaker 2: B party. And even even though the party lives on
Speaker 2: its own, when you when you book artists for your
Speaker 2: R and B party, you book actual R and B
Speaker 2: artists because.
Speaker 1: There is a difference.
Speaker 2: You're right, and I want to encourage you know, everybody
Speaker 2: is doing these parties, you know, all the all over
Speaker 2: the world all over the country as you're getting to
Speaker 2: this space.
Speaker 3: Book of the R and B artists, Yeah, there's nothing
Speaker 3: wrong with Carling l de Bars to pull up and
Speaker 3: ke baby Face to pull up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: And getting Charlie Wilson to company.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 3: Like listen, we love all the new young artists too,
Speaker 3: and absolutely booked them. But don't forget about the legends
Speaker 3: in this game. They start that can pull up and
Speaker 3: get busy, Johnny Gil coming that mother fucking crazy, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's like, why y'all booking
Speaker 3: these parties and why y'all putting together this whole R
Speaker 3: and B space for the party? Think about that because
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of times within the hip
Speaker 3: hop party, a lot of the four files of hip hop,
Speaker 3: they didn't get booked for those corrects. But in R
Speaker 3: and B, this music it just hit different. This music
Speaker 3: hits different. I'm waiting to see Tavin Gamble Tevin Campbell
Speaker 3: on the on the flyer for for R and B party.
Speaker 3: I'm telling Mike right now, you got to book Tavin
Speaker 3: Campbell because we know what that can we talk, do
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: We know what that do at the club. So we need.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're looking for.
Speaker 1: Looking for break it down. Come on, break it down.
Speaker 1: We need John b the next ques. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 4: John is one of my top two.
Speaker 1: Because as well Stephen Trup in there. You know, I mean,
Speaker 1: turn that thing up, jacket, come on once well a.
Speaker 3: J John, Come on listen these things and these people
Speaker 3: still got their pipes and can still sing. It's gonna
Speaker 3: show up for you and have a good time, y'all
Speaker 3: throwing like this is what we need to start seeing
Speaker 3: this around the country, around the world.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't got to book the same five artists. I
Speaker 1: don't have five artists.
Speaker 4: I like that. I like that.
Speaker 5: So you know, look, and me and my man, we
Speaker 5: went to because what you said is true, man, book up,
Speaker 5: book up R and B artists. We went to this again,
Speaker 5: say no names. We went to this one party, man,
Speaker 5: and it was called R and B such and such day.
Speaker 5: And we went in there, man, and they weren't playing
Speaker 5: no R and B.
Speaker 4: And he said to me, no, it was. It was
Speaker 4: an R and B party. It was wrapping bitches. I was, man,
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, that's cold. He said, it was
Speaker 4: just rapping like.
Speaker 1: Ship.
Speaker 4: Hey, but.
Speaker 1: That was my first time hearing that. I've heard ribs
Speaker 1: and barbecue party was.
Speaker 2: Make sure the party is rhythm. And for the love
Speaker 2: of God, we appreciate you, brother, very point blank. We
Speaker 2: thank you for coming. Man.
Speaker 1: We know your time is precious. Man.
Speaker 2: You are continuing to uh to build and and and
Speaker 2: do what you do. Man, We we pray for We
Speaker 2: pray for as many years as you want. You know
Speaker 2: what I means, as many as many more years as
Speaker 2: you want to be successful. That's what we pray God
Speaker 2: gives you, man, and We're going to always be here
Speaker 2: to support and champion how you however, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You know, anytime, you know, we want to
Speaker 2: get back on that basketball court. I've been out a
Speaker 2: little lot this guy, but I feel like I.
Speaker 1: Still been trying to get him to come back. And
Speaker 1: don't do that because I got hurt. That's exactly why
Speaker 1: I stop hooping.
Speaker 4: That's possible.
Speaker 1: But I'm already back. Oh he back hooping. He ain't learning.
Speaker 1: I'm going out the way I came in.
Speaker 2: And this is the Everybody Podcast, the authority on all
Speaker 2: things R and B. And we have a place, we
Speaker 2: have a home we have a curator. We got a
Speaker 2: boss man Headline Entertainment Man, shut up.
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