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Well, while I was 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: talking to stock Club about this, I remember when it 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: was supposed to be Microsoft and that fell out of favor. 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: Thank god they had to open their investment. 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: I just wonder what that algorithm will look like and 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: if it will deliver the same potency of information that 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: was coming out. I even think TikTok's main algorithm is 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: getting watered down some But I think it's a great hedge. 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: But I think. 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: And hid insight it was smarter Microsoft to not to 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: continue to fight for that and get that the real 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: ip that matters, which is the partnership wul open Aie. Well, 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: what do you guys think about it? 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 5: It's interesting the t leaves were there. 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: We talked about it in January Posed the clip, talked 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: about it in July Posed the clip. The t leaves 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: were there for Oracle, for sure, that was one of 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: those deep dives. What they already if you watch the 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: stock from twenty twenty to where they at now, you 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: can see the impact that they've had in terms of 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: using the cloud service. But there's another company privately hell 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: that nobody talks about and we should. 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 5: When you talk about reaction. 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: If if you look at the tea leaves of who 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: the partnerships are, Yes, you see Oracle's name a lot, 40 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: you see open Ai. But there's a private company by 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: the name of silver Lake tilver Lake Capital. So let's 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: do like now I had to go down to deep dive. 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's think about this right when we 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: talk about Stargate. It originally started a soft bank open 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: Ai and Oracle. Later on, silver Lake became a part 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: of that ownership group and they said, all right, here 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: comes the data centers. All right, so now silver Lake 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: has data centers, right with the Stargate thing. Then the 49 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: TikTok deal comes around and you look at the names 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: of the ownership and the staties involved, right, and you 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: saw Oracle and then you saw silver Lake. All right, 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: so now they got Stargate, they got the data centers, 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: they got TikTok. 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 5: Now they have a user base and data from that. 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Then you start pulling that the leaves a little bit further, 56 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: and you talk about a company that has had a 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: great year, right endeavor obviously with the WWE and the UFC, 58 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: and you think about who's funded them. Yep, silver Lake again, 59 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: so now they have entertainment. This is an entertainment conglomerate. 60 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 5: Right. 61 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: And then when the news came out today about EA Sports, 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about some of the owners that a 63 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: billion dollar deal. Some some of those people are close 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: to the president. Civil likes part of that as well. 65 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: And so now you're looking data centers. You're looking at 66 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: data from a user standpoint, You've got entertainment right with 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Endeavor and now EA, So like, why are they connecting 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: all of that? 69 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 5: What does a bigger play here? There's a bigger play 70 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 5: here when we're. 71 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: Talking about what Larry Ellison did and David Elson did 72 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: in terms of grabbing paramount right and well potentially next 73 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: having Warner Brothers. They've got a media conglomerate that's a 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: goodmb of the now biggest of all time. That's of 75 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: the now we're talking about streaming right, but the next 76 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: wave that we might be going down is in this 77 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: space of AI in terms of metaverse right al. 78 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 5: Turnative re up. 79 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: And so now they have the data with TikTok, they 80 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: have the data centers to help get the infrastructure off 81 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: the ground. They have UFC and entertainment. Now they have 82 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: video games. 83 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: Right. 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: So if you don't know, and we all grew up 85 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: in that era where we played EA sports is in 86 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: the game right we that we played live They got 87 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: out of field, which most people don't even realize has 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: past call of duty in terms of amount of users. 89 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: They have all of that at their domain to now 90 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: create a bigger media conglomerate that will be the media 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: climate of the future right that the way they're looking 92 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: at this is ten to fifteen years down the line. 93 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 5: Yes, streaming Elise and they've taken that. 94 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: We've seen everybody at the highest level grab media. We 95 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: saw Bezos grab Mediabviously Elon has grad media. But this 96 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: for the highest level, this is the futuristic way that 97 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: I see them thinking about it. 98 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 5: We took entertainment, we took gaming in AI. 99 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: We have the data centerce we have the user base 100 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: with TikTok, We already have what we're going to build 101 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: in terms of AI for the infrastructure. They're putting this 102 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: whole thing together. Nobody talks about them. I looked up 103 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: the CEOs. You would never if they walked past. 104 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: You on you and know and more importantly mind chair, 105 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: because if I have you when you get off Battlefield 106 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: or whatever game you play on EA and TikTok and 107 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: what you're watching I have, I have eighty percent of 108 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: your mind share. 109 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 6: Also, okay from an investment standpoint for sure, But do 110 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 6: you feel comfortable with the TikTok deal. 111 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: That's above my pick grip. I haven't got my build 112 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: to Burke left. I got my van guard, but and 113 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: what's the what regard. 114 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: And then and then the US I guess investment walking 115 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: with this, this new group of investors having the data 116 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: as opposed to what they thought China might have the data. 117 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 5: Shat in that sense. 118 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 4: Okay, we A part of this. 119 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 5: Is though, yo, I'm yo, i'mnat. 120 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: You can I tell you something part about conversation yesterday? 121 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: Uh so Rabbit tells he's the story and I was 122 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: we were talking about cybersecurity because he's made a I mean, 123 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: he's probably the number one person in terms of cyber 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: security in the country. And how you know, we always 125 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: talk about safety and safety and safety. He's like, you know, 126 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: there was a time in the late nineties where we 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: won't name the company, fastold company offered a hamburger and 128 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: in exchange if you if you. 129 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 5: Gave them. 130 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: The company company said it. 131 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: So McDonald's had this offer, like, will give you a hamburger, cheeseburger, 132 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: whatever it was. 133 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 5: It was two years ago. I was always a little 134 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: longer than that. Two years ago. 135 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: We'll offer you a cheeseburger, hamburger in exchange for your name, 136 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: your first name, your last name in your address. And 137 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: he said, how many people do you think did that 138 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: took the Burger m seventy two percent of the people 139 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: gave away the information for Hamburger, And we're thinking about, Hey, 140 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: what should we feel comfort or safe with a company 141 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: having our data? 142 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 5: They already have it, so. 143 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: But do we feel comfortable with the TikTok deal? 144 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: To be very honest, I think we're not getting the 145 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: purest products, which is a Chinese algorithm. We're getting a 146 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: derivative work stepped on those who are in the underworld. 147 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 4: Do I feel comfortable with it? 148 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: No? 149 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: I get the ideal. But if we are at war 150 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: with China and we go to China. 151 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: And say we have to break this up because you're 152 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 3: having influence over American users, that's a double edged sword. 153 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: But to then not get the real algorithm, it's interesting. 154 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: Unless you want to control the thought process of the 155 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: people war on set app in the country, you're still 156 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: not getting the real thing. It's like when the Christler, 157 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: you getting the Christler three hundred CE. 158 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: So okay. 159 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 6: So from a standpoint of this, right, the richest person 160 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 6: in the world owns X, the second richest person in 161 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 6: the world is trying to buy TikTok. 162 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 4: Let's see where you're going. Yeah, Basos with Washington Post. 163 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 6: The third richest person in the world owns Instagram, Facebook 164 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 6: and WhatsApp. The fourth richest person in the world owns 165 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 6: the Washington Post. We live in a society where less 166 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 6: than ten people control ninety eight percent of the narratives 167 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 6: and stories that we're actually consuming. Buyers of potential buyers 168 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: of TikTok. Rupert Murdoch is part of the group. Also, Yeah, yep, 169 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 6: Larry Ellison. X has already been taken over by far 170 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 6: right wing ideology. It's pretty much maga X. Stay should 171 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 6: change the name of X to MEGA. If you go 172 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 6: on it, you know who has the most followers on X. 173 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 6: How's that happen? It is exactly Make sure when you 174 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 6: go on X, you'll see the first thing you'll see 175 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 6: it's the most right wing. It's not by accident. They control. 176 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 6: They control what you actually are seeing on your timeline. 177 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 6: It's a it's a right wing platform, TikTok. It's headed 178 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 6: in that direction for sure if this deal goes through. 179 00:09:54,800 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 6: So now you have TikTok and you have Twitter X, 180 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 6: which essentially will be used. 181 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 4: As a propaganda tool for. 182 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 6: Right wing ideology of this administration for sure, and any 183 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 6: other right wing ideology that needs to be pushed. That's 184 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 6: concerning and it's dangerous. So do you feel comfortable, of 185 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 6: course not. How can I feel comfortable if it's concerning 186 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 6: and dangerous. 187 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 5: Just making sure. 188 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like people are living in it. 189 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't even think they're even thinking of it at 190 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: that level. And that's just the mind frame of the 191 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: person that is Yeah, I'm just trying to survive. They're 192 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: not even realizing that these type of chess pieces. It's 193 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: like you're controlling the mind of people on every level 194 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: like that. If I get the kids at TikTok, if 195 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: I don't get them on TikTok, I'm gonna get them 196 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: in game. 197 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 5: I'm gonna grab him there, right. 198 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: So, like Jared Kushner is part of that ownership group 199 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: for EA, right Affinity Partners. 200 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 5: He's the CEO of Affinity Partners. 201 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: For those who are not to know, he's the CEO 202 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: of Infinity Partners that just put that that group together 203 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: for fifty five billion to acquire EA. 204 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: That's not by mistake, Nope. 205 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 206 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: The name of the game in America has always been 207 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: a monopoly, though, it's just not hitting how it. 208 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 5: Used to be. 209 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: That's true for those who again, let's go for Jared 210 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: Kushner is the son in law of the current President 211 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: of the United States. 212 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 6: And for the people that's like, okay, well, it's not 213 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 6: concerning when the left wing has it. 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But the right is way more dangerous. 217 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: And the left never had majority of control of the media. 218 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 6: That's fucking this shit that we had it too right 219 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 6: now is Kolcus Klan country. 220 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: That's a fact, So pick your poison. 221 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 6: But anybody that's trying to rationalize racism is dangerous and 222 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 6: that's what's happening every single day. 223 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 4: That's the core principles of American philosophy. 224 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 5: Earners, what's up. 225 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: Look, this episode is brought to you by Square Banking. 226 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: One of the things we love most is seeing neighborhood 227 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: businesses level up. 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