Speaker 1: Too Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself Teddy meling Camp.
Speaker 1: Hey, I am Erica Jane.
Speaker 2: Erica just came in and my kids confused Erica for me.
Speaker 1: Well your Sunday. And you know, I've never met Dove,
Speaker 1: that's crazy until right now. I've known Dove since like
Speaker 1: she was growing.
Speaker 2: She probably recognizes your voice from when.
Speaker 1: It's she was in my belt. And let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. I said, Hey, Jeff, She's like, Hi, She's
Speaker 1: so cute and her Barbie pjs. She's really sweet. She
Speaker 1: looks great.
Speaker 2: She was like and then after you like walked away,
Speaker 2: she's like, all right, I'll go down and leave you
Speaker 2: to work.
Speaker 1: She's pretty. Oh that's sweet. Your kids are really nice.
Speaker 1: Teddy has very nice children. And I'm gonna let the
Speaker 1: audience know one day, and I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say what Remember that day your daughter called and
Speaker 1: tried to pull a fast one on you? Okay, you
Speaker 1: guys know Teddy, one way that shit stopped. In like
Speaker 1: five seconds, I saw you turn into like Southern mom mode.
Speaker 1: I just thought that's all. I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 1: You were like, hey, I was like, it's my girl.
Speaker 2: No, like I'm gonna check.
Speaker 1: You were so understanding and so sweet until and then
Speaker 1: you were like absolutely hell and that's not what you said,
Speaker 1: but that's the tone. It was like, you just actually, okay,
Speaker 1: here's the line. You crossed it and you, ma'am little
Speaker 1: miss Slate are gonna get no.
Speaker 2: She knows, she knows.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, Teddy, All right, Teddy.
Speaker 2: You know I've been hand I got a hand. I
Speaker 2: handle something.
Speaker 1: No, you handle everything. It's just that was a moment.
Speaker 1: I was like, that scared me. Holy Holy.
Speaker 2: I know we can't really talk about it, but we
Speaker 2: did just see the trailer for Real Health. Well, I
Speaker 2: mean I think it looks it looks pretty. It looks pretty,
Speaker 2: it looks interesting. It looks like Durie is back to
Speaker 2: season one, two three of her season.
Speaker 1: Yes, herself, but I think it's more important because she's
Speaker 1: going through like a separation in marriage, you know, so
Speaker 1: you can see her emotions are really at the front.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like a hard season for Kyle again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I did see you making out with Garcel.
Speaker 1: No I First of all, I kissed Garcel.
Speaker 2: There looked like there was tongue.
Speaker 1: There was I don't do anything bad. Yeah, well it's
Speaker 1: one good kiss. It's not it's not a session. We
Speaker 1: played a game. That's where I'll leave it. Okay, I
Speaker 1: have to wait and watch. Okay.
Speaker 2: I do think it looks good. I think the trip
Speaker 2: looked incredible. I know how trips actually go, but I
Speaker 2: love it like everybody looks on point. So I'm excited
Speaker 2: that's coming around the corner. It airs November nineteenth, so
Speaker 2: make sure you guys tune in to Real Housewives of
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills on November nineteenth.
Speaker 1: I will be recapping it. I'm about to say, I
Speaker 1: get to listen to you and Tama right now.
Speaker 2: Payback's a bit.
Speaker 1: I have been really you've been really good, very fair,
Speaker 1: very fair. Yeah. I just said, hey, I think this
Speaker 1: was too far. I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The good news is I don't think Tarma really listens
Speaker 2: when she's not on.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
Speaker 2: No, and anything that I say I also tell her.
Speaker 2: But also as the audience.
Speaker 1: I have to agree with me all the time. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying like, when you've disagreed with me
Speaker 1: or said something that's your that's what you're here to do,
Speaker 1: that's you give that opinion. So if you talk about
Speaker 1: me and Beverly Hills, I'm not gonna have a breakdown.
Speaker 1: I don't goals for this year, goals for twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: just don't. I just don't. I get it.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, oh me, My phone is never like, oh, excuse,
Speaker 1: I'm sure hour is that?
Speaker 2: Rayah?
Speaker 1: No, it's not. I probably should be on there, but
Speaker 1: I'm not. Does anybody know how to get me on?
Speaker 1: I have no Yes? Are you on?
Speaker 2: I don't? Yeah, hold on, you're on Riyah?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 2: Take?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Just so you guys know, Riya is a dating app
Speaker 2: that people are very into in California because it's all
Speaker 2: about stature and perks money.
Speaker 1: I was told that it was kind of like a
Speaker 1: entertainment industry based dating app, but then somebody told me
Speaker 1: that you could match a friend of mine's on it.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's gay. He said he matched with some
Speaker 1: dude in Istanbul. I'm like, how the fuck is that
Speaker 1: gonna wank?
Speaker 2: Like, is he gonna fly you on a private jet
Speaker 2: every week to.
Speaker 1: What is that? And so I you know, I've never
Speaker 1: been on a dating app, but I wonder if I should.
Speaker 1: But I need to be on an app where I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just people need, you know, know what
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: So, guys, we're gonna have to talk to Tara for
Speaker 2: one second. Who's one of our producers?
Speaker 1: She's on it?
Speaker 2: She's on it? Did you have to submit a headshot?
Speaker 2: You have to submit your license and everything, and then
Speaker 2: you have to get like five referrals to say that you're.
Speaker 3: I know, I I don't give a ship like that
Speaker 3: is too long to be on somebody's app.
Speaker 2: Can I run your Rayah app? Oh?
Speaker 1: Would you? I would love it. Let's apply.
Speaker 2: Let's apply, But I want to know if if it
Speaker 2: takes me a year to get in.
Speaker 1: I would never let you hear them. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? We're doing it together. What
Speaker 1: we'll do is Riya, if you're listening, let me in.
Speaker 1: I'm actually listen.
Speaker 2: We're gonna create headshots right after.
Speaker 1: This, right, there's enough headshots blay me. Yeah, let's I
Speaker 1: will let you run my Riyah. I think that I
Speaker 1: would be excellent, right. I think he would be too,
Speaker 1: because you know what, I'm not good at that. I'm
Speaker 1: not very good with the old dialogue. It is very direct,
Speaker 1: very to the point, and men don't like that.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is actually a show in the making.
Speaker 1: Running Erica's you should running Erica's right, or whatever, my hinge,
Speaker 1: my whatever, whatever one I can get on. But apparently,
Speaker 1: you know, what Garcel told me is that she was
Speaker 1: on Riah, but she got off because she saw everybody
Speaker 1: she knew and it felt weird. She's like, oh, she
Speaker 1: got on and she literally said, you know what, I
Speaker 1: saw too many people I knew on there, and I
Speaker 1: felt weird about it, so I got off.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean, would you rather see some
Speaker 2: people that you know or like see people with like
Speaker 2: eighty seven cats and like.
Speaker 1: I'd rather see people that honestly work in our business.
Speaker 1: Because if I say, look, I got to go to
Speaker 1: Paris tonight, they have to understand I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear what does that mean? Oh what does that mean?
Speaker 2: You're not into me?
Speaker 1: It means I'm fucking going and when I get back,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll pick up from there. And don't ask
Speaker 1: me what I'm doing while I'm there.
Speaker 2: So in other words, I know we got to get
Speaker 2: into recapping Orange County, but do not message me within
Speaker 2: the next five hours because I'm setting up Erica's Ria account.
Speaker 1: Five referrals? Do I get?
Speaker 2: Only people that are on right?
Speaker 1: Get referra? Can I refer?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: You have to have people within the app. Are you
Speaker 1: want my phone?
Speaker 5: I feel like I can get this moving if anybody listen,
Speaker 5: let me tell you something, Cia or whoever the fuck
Speaker 5: finds people that aren't supposed to be found.
Speaker 1: This one right here, she can find anybody. So that's it.
Speaker 2: And here's the fucking challenge. If I can't get Erica
Speaker 2: on Riya by our next podcast when recapping the REA,
Speaker 2: that's only a few days. If you don't think I
Speaker 2: can do it in four, five, six days, I failed myself.
Speaker 1: That's a bold okay, girl, share chairs. Here's to you
Speaker 1: and me on Rayah Cheer. I can slide into people's
Speaker 1: dmor I didn't find out who owns Rayah. I. Well,
Speaker 1: that's it. We can just call yeah. I mean I
Speaker 1: have a publicist, Teddy matainer. Eddy. Teddy's very good at this.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about these other chicks.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Real Housewives Orange County Season eighteen, episode seventeen.
Speaker 1: So this is the finale yep. And then we get
Speaker 1: three reunions, which I'm excited about.
Speaker 2: Actually, i'm excited about. I hope that we see some
Speaker 2: transition in person once we get into the reunion, yes.
Speaker 1: But authentic transition. Yeah. Now, I don't want to see
Speaker 1: I've been a jerk all you know year and now
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the couch and let me do my best.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm so sorry. No, if you're going to talk
Speaker 1: that shit all season, talk that shit on the couch too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how I talk that.
Speaker 2: Shit on the couch. But then also I do need
Speaker 2: from every house, So I have to have a touch
Speaker 2: of like self awareness, self awareness, just a touch like
Speaker 2: not you don't have to be fully.
Speaker 1: Self aware, sure, well, you do have to acknowledge the
Speaker 1: fact that you've either gone too far or hurt someone
Speaker 1: in a way, said some things that you didn't like.
Speaker 1: However it is you do have to have that self aware. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it starts off Emily, Gina, Jen and Shannon meet
Speaker 2: to throw axes. Remember when we had to do that
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn with Denise and I was pregnant, I know,
Speaker 2: and they said I couldn't throw the acts because I
Speaker 2: was with child. But I hadn't told you guys yet,
Speaker 2: so then you just thought I was being a stick
Speaker 2: in the mud.
Speaker 1: Again, when aren't you stick in the mud.
Speaker 2: They're like, Teddy, just throw the eggs, have a drink.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't, guys, we did. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 2: need to wait twelve hours before I announced to the group.
Speaker 1: In my second yeah, I was so not aware, but
Speaker 1: I if tombs, if Tom's Antacids is listening, this woman
Speaker 1: right here gave you a full on, nine month long advertisement.
Speaker 1: All she did was eat toumbs.
Speaker 2: It was fucking brutal.
Speaker 1: But they're like, why are you playing?
Speaker 2: Is it because you're annoyed with the knees?
Speaker 1: No, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2: They won't fucking let me sign off on to throw
Speaker 2: an act. But also like the fact that you can't
Speaker 2: throw an axe while pregnant, there's no time you want
Speaker 2: to throw an axe more.
Speaker 1: This is true. However, I was looking at this scene
Speaker 1: and I was like, yep, you have to have the clothes, toe, shoes, Yep. No,
Speaker 1: we couldn't have the liquor obvious reasons, and it's just
Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of weird. Remember our person that
Speaker 1: was helping us with the axes and we go get them.
Speaker 1: I just had like a lot of times and then
Speaker 1: I thought, like, how do these people stay in business?
Speaker 1: What's their insurance coverage? But also what if somebody gets
Speaker 1: in there and like fucking throws it in the other people?
Speaker 2: But also what I was wondering, which I understand, like
Speaker 2: we're going for a show and we're throwing access, but
Speaker 2: I want to know who pays to throw axes at
Speaker 2: a bar.
Speaker 1: Well, there have been some moments when I've liked to
Speaker 1: have thrown some axes at some actual people, no one
Speaker 1: on these shows, but you know, I'd like to have
Speaker 1: chopped some heads in another way. But yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that some people really.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, but I think like the like
Speaker 2: the destroy rooms or whatever you go to, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: I get a little little bit more, a little bit
Speaker 2: like you want.
Speaker 1: To have some rage and you want to do it
Speaker 1: in a polite responsibly Yeah, responsibly rage?
Speaker 2: Well I want to responsibly rage, but like what do
Speaker 2: you get off the axe?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: But Shannon got a lot She felt really excited that
Speaker 2: she almost hit the bullts almost almost. But Shannon left London.
Speaker 1: She said they didn't show us that. Hey, bravo, I
Speaker 1: want to know why you didn't show us that. Why
Speaker 1: didn't you show us that she left early? Because if
Speaker 1: I'd have left early, you'd have shown it.
Speaker 2: Also, Like, Shannon, we know you have a cellular phone
Speaker 2: because you've shown us text messages. You could have easily
Speaker 2: recorded a little video or senate to Sally Anne.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sallyann. Hi Senate to Sally Anne and
Speaker 1: given us a little twenty seconds of why you left.
Speaker 1: We didn't even know why you left. How could you
Speaker 1: do that to us? I am fully invested over here
Speaker 1: and then she just up and the poof you're gone?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: How? When? Who put you that flight? How did you
Speaker 1: pull this off? Because I was just how bad earlier?
Speaker 1: Did you leave? Was Gavin next to you?
Speaker 2: Did you sit with any who flew with you?
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. Who took it to
Speaker 1: the airport? Did you book a flight in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night and like take a cab?
Speaker 2: Like there were moments where I thought maybe I could
Speaker 2: take a cab and just get the fuck out of there.
Speaker 1: There are moments that I thought, should I take a cab?
Speaker 1: But then I thought nag coming, And then I was like, a.
Speaker 2: CAB's pretty expensive from she passed.
Speaker 1: You know what, here's the thing. I need to know this,
Speaker 1: and I need to know details, because look, I've been
Speaker 1: doing this for nine years. You did it for at
Speaker 1: least three years or four years. I want to know
Speaker 1: how the fuck you got out of there? How did she?
Speaker 1: How did she pull that off? And many times as
Speaker 1: i've I've been like, fuck this place, how did you
Speaker 1: pull it off?
Speaker 2: And if you did pull it off? How much earlier
Speaker 2: did you leave at?
Speaker 1: An hour? Was day?
Speaker 2: Was it forty five minutes? Like I remember when we
Speaker 2: were going on a trip, and this isn't nobody can
Speaker 2: get annoyed at this, but we all knew we were
Speaker 2: going to another country. I can't remember which one it
Speaker 2: was because I was pregnant on antacids. Betally So had
Speaker 2: no passport.
Speaker 1: Italy Sutton had no passport.
Speaker 2: She showed up to the airport with no passport, couldn't
Speaker 2: find it.
Speaker 1: And then it's gonna charter a plane charter And then.
Speaker 2: I realized, this bitch has a lot more fucking money
Speaker 2: than I'll ever have because if.
Speaker 1: I missed my flight, I wouldn't exactly charter a gulf Stream.
Speaker 1: But she didn't end up doing that. She did come commercial.
Speaker 1: But I was like, how the fuck do you not
Speaker 1: have your passport?
Speaker 2: How do you not realize until the day.
Speaker 1: Remember one time and I'm gonna out deit. Remember when
Speaker 1: Durit didn't have her passport for the Bahamas. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like the night before or two days, twenty four hours before,
Speaker 1: and then she got the twenty four I was like, hey, babe, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, we know they.
Speaker 2: Filmed you packing six days ago.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like I know that my passport, Like I
Speaker 1: know you can get them in twenty four hours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you pay a premium, it's you know whatever, but like really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. Well anyway, all right, they did this. They
Speaker 1: didn't show us any of that, but I look anyway,
Speaker 1: My point is, we need to know. That's not fair.
Speaker 2: We appreciate knowing.
Speaker 1: We want to know the timeframe. We want to know.
Speaker 1: It's not that easy. It's not that easy to be
Speaker 1: that and can It's not that easy to leave a trip.
Speaker 1: So I want to know how you left it, and.
Speaker 2: I want to know how early you left it. I
Speaker 2: think It's a very big difference if you left it
Speaker 2: twenty four hours early, if you left it two hours
Speaker 2: before that.
Speaker 1: She remember when we said last week that she took
Speaker 1: her mic off and said, I'm not doing this anymore.
Speaker 1: Did she leave her birthday parties to the Heathrow or wherever? Like?
Speaker 2: Did?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, did anything else happen? Did she do another
Speaker 2: enema before she left? Oh?
Speaker 1: My god, geez. And then I listened to our farting noises,
Speaker 1: and you know what, I kind of liked it. I mean,
Speaker 1: because we were stupid. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, Gina says, Tamra and Shannon are both at fault,
Speaker 2: but Shannon is working on herself to be better.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, I don't necessarily do. I think
Speaker 2: Tama made mistakes And is that fault? Yes, I think
Speaker 2: Tara made mistakes. She's at fault. It wasn't her best season. However,
Speaker 2: let's not you know, stop, let's not to blame on
Speaker 2: one person when you all know it's an even fucking
Speaker 2: playing field. But let's also call spade a spade. If
Speaker 2: you were to get a DUI and you were to
Speaker 2: crash into a house and you were to injure yourself,
Speaker 2: I would imagine your next season. We would see you
Speaker 2: in therapy. We would see you not drinking, not drinking.
Speaker 1: Yes, we would see you doing things you would see
Speaker 1: if it were me, I would make different choices than
Speaker 1: what I've watched Shannon Bador do. Right, So, for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2: I think her version of bettering herself is not fighting
Speaker 2: with Camra on camera, but fighting with her off camera.
Speaker 2: I'm confused on what these well, the fighting that is,
Speaker 2: but you know what I'm saying, like we're not saying
Speaker 2: right now, we're not seeing it.
Speaker 1: And the problem is you're feeling it. You're not seeing
Speaker 1: the fighting, and what's being presented to the audience is
Speaker 1: different than what's actually happening.
Speaker 2: But if you're saying, my pig battering myself, show.
Speaker 1: Me, well, I would have made different choices if that
Speaker 1: was what I was saying.
Speaker 2: But then we see Jen and Ryan get engaged in
Speaker 2: the Bahamas.
Speaker 1: Very briefly, all of a sudden, Hey, we're engaged.
Speaker 2: I want to understand was there a camera crew there
Speaker 2: or was that just like the same people. Hold on,
Speaker 2: where were we at the Bahamas? What was the place
Speaker 2: called Bahamar? Because it the same people that it stalked
Speaker 2: us at the slides of Bahama videoing this. But I
Speaker 2: need to understand was that video because we see Jen.
Speaker 1: Shot on an iPhone? Like this podcast or what d
Speaker 1: this high end? This higher?
Speaker 3: You got going Teddy where everybody every week is like
Speaker 3: Teddy's tap it up with your looks.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't. I'm tired.
Speaker 1: She's tired myself, she's tired. Leave her alone. Oh but
Speaker 1: I'm bettering my syl you have another drink. We see
Speaker 1: that they're engaged, yes, which I thought is very sweet.
Speaker 2: So she went directly from London to the Bahamas.
Speaker 1: She did not come to Orange County to the Bahamas. No,
Speaker 1: that's good because that flight would have been terrible. I
Speaker 1: actually admire that. So maybe not a maybe not a
Speaker 1: camera crew.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but do you know, I feel like
Speaker 2: Ryan probably alerted the media, the media or production that
Speaker 2: he was going to propose part of it. Didn't feel
Speaker 2: like it was an iPhone, but maybe it was.
Speaker 1: It felt the shot felt a little too centered and
Speaker 1: a little too clear for me, and like her knowing
Speaker 1: to throw down her phone. I don't know whatever, who
Speaker 1: cares either engage. I'm happy for you. I hope it works. Sincerely,
Speaker 1: you sincere really think it's going to I said, I hope. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's hope, the audacity of hope.
Speaker 2: Well, Gina is happy for her, but questions why Ryan
Speaker 2: didn't just give her rent money.
Speaker 1: Leave this child alone already with the rent guys. However, Look,
Speaker 1: if Jen is your friend, you accept her the way
Speaker 1: she is. Stop penny pinching and counting stuff for her.
Speaker 1: If Ryan wants to take care of her, that's on them.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about what they do. But I think you
Speaker 1: just said a key sentence.
Speaker 2: If Jen is your friend, Yes, If I don't think
Speaker 2: that anybody is really being friends at.
Speaker 1: This moment, no, they're not.
Speaker 2: They're not, they're not. You do normally see a couple
Speaker 2: of authentic friendships on the show, Yes, of course Orange County.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's feeling Yeah, I'm like, hold on to
Speaker 1: the one friend you got, if you got one, if
Speaker 1: you have one. Yeah, But I think we need to
Speaker 1: leave eve Jen alone about what she does with her money,
Speaker 1: like that's really I know we're on a show about lifestyle,
Speaker 1: but again, and we've said this before, what she does
Speaker 1: with her money, how she gets it? If Ryan takes
Speaker 1: care of her. If this is not your fucking business,
Speaker 1: and if she goes down in flames, guess what, she
Speaker 1: goes down and flames and it's not on you. Let
Speaker 1: her be, please, let people be. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also was wondering if tam was actually invited to
Speaker 2: this axe throwing conversation.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like it, or she was like, actually,
Speaker 1: I'm busy things. Yeah, I didn't feel like.
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't know, but what I did know
Speaker 2: and listen, I really, I really, from the bottom of
Speaker 2: my heart, as Erica would say, sincerely tried to find
Speaker 2: something redeeming about Alexis, but then she brought chlorox wipes.
Speaker 2: Yeah to Tamras and I fucking hate props.
Speaker 1: Yeah. If you have to tell a story with props,
Speaker 1: you're not interesting enough.
Speaker 2: She says she's been ring shopping and thinks an engagement
Speaker 2: is coming. But then this is also confusing. Alexis is
Speaker 2: throwing jen an engagement part?
Speaker 1: Are they close like that?
Speaker 2: Have we ever seen them hang out one on one?
Speaker 1: Well? I only watch this one season and now Alexis
Speaker 1: is back.
Speaker 2: This is alexis first season back and gin second season,
Speaker 2: so I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer is no. So what what authentically would
Speaker 1: make alexis throw Jen an engagement.
Speaker 2: Party, I think, and hopes to make sure that Shannon
Speaker 2: is there because she's going to support Jen, and then
Speaker 2: to also bring a chance to get Johnny J to
Speaker 2: show up.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe the clorox would have been a funny move if
Speaker 2: she kept it light, but there was such like it
Speaker 2: would have been like me bringing the Clorox wipes, Like
Speaker 2: there's so I can't. I'm not a light human being.
Speaker 2: I'm like a very direct, more aggressive type of It's.
Speaker 4: Not like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like Brenda could pull off.
Speaker 1: Bringing Clora Rena could pull off anything anything that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not so much. It's just not your vibe. It's not
Speaker 1: my vibe. It feels desperado.
Speaker 2: Well, then Tamara found proof of Shannon asking her to
Speaker 2: get her friend.
Speaker 1: To which I'm glass so we can have a level
Speaker 1: playing field. Remember, like we said last week, both of them,
Speaker 1: both of them have done this, both of them meaning
Speaker 1: Shannon and Tama. It's not one side of guys.
Speaker 2: Tamra said, Shannon is trying to destroy her friendship with Jen. Okay, Tamra,
Speaker 2: do I agree one million percent that Shannon had her
Speaker 2: hand and destroying like trying to pull things about Ryan.
Speaker 2: Do I think that you possibly could have destroyed your
Speaker 2: friendship with Jen two weeks prior at the dinner, I.
Speaker 1: Think, I think, I think, yeah, Tamar, I'm afraid you
Speaker 1: own this one. I'm from my point of view and
Speaker 1: you can strongly disagree with me. Tamaran. It's okay because
Speaker 1: I like you. But here's the other thing you did
Speaker 1: this bag like that part.
Speaker 2: I can't forget the dinner two weeks ago, so I
Speaker 2: can't forgetting any of that, but I can point out
Speaker 2: the hypocrisy of Shannon trying to pretend her hands are clean. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: when they're as dirty as Tamar.
Speaker 1: Yes they are, Yes they are. You have again, you
Speaker 1: have two people here that are doing the same thing,
Speaker 1: pointing at each other.
Speaker 2: But also, did you notice that Tamara was wearing a
Speaker 2: London sweatshirt? I did?
Speaker 1: I did. I caught that. I was like, wow, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I went to London and you didn't.
Speaker 4: And Gus, you know what, maybe Johnny j you and
Speaker 4: what are the what are the shoes that Shannon about
Speaker 4: Johnny Jus and those farragamos?
Speaker 1: Wait, Shannon about the yes Shannon about the paragamos.
Speaker 2: We let's pull out our eighteen shreds of paper like
Speaker 2: our rundown here to shore farragamos four hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: nine dollars.
Speaker 1: Dinner to fifty is his portion fifty bucks half a
Speaker 1: glass of wine at sixteen dollars. But then we get
Speaker 1: update on the kids. Jens Son.
Speaker 2: Dawson is considering taking the GED and going to military school.
Speaker 1: Abe's just okay, Dawson, if you can hear me, just
Speaker 1: finish high school then go to the Marine Corps. It's
Speaker 1: a very upstanding thing to do. Just just get your
Speaker 1: high school diploma pape.
Speaker 2: Well, there's been a lot of chatter on social media
Speaker 2: from Jen's ex husband about he's trying to and I'm paraphrasing, guys,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not a lawyer, not exact, it's
Speaker 2: not exact. It's things that I read, probably after I've
Speaker 2: taken an ambien to go to sleep and just looking
Speaker 2: through social media. But I saw something that her ex
Speaker 2: husband posted where he's now trying to change the child
Speaker 2: support because Dawson is now with him in his one
Speaker 2: betterom apartment and bab blah blah. Yeah, and all of
Speaker 2: these things are happening. Do I think this is a
Speaker 2: lot for Dawson to go through?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah it is. Do I think it's.
Speaker 2: Harder the older that you, the older you are as
Speaker 2: a teenager, having to accept another man.
Speaker 1: As your mother's partner, yeah, or stepfather. Yes, yes it is.
Speaker 2: I would imagine if you're two and this is your
Speaker 2: dad from come on, yeah, it's versus seventeen.
Speaker 1: Listen. I don't know if a seventeen year old boy
Speaker 1: that wants to listen to anybody, right, anyone, and certainly
Speaker 1: not a stepfather.
Speaker 2: He's not a stepfather yet who allegedly being investigated by
Speaker 2: the FBI.
Speaker 1: It's not alleged, it is. I'd just like to say alleged.
Speaker 1: I know, because you're nervous. I'm not. It's a fact
Speaker 1: it happened.
Speaker 2: It's okay, But Dawson, listen, I barely graduated from high
Speaker 2: school myself.
Speaker 1: I feel you.
Speaker 2: I wish I would have worked a little harder and
Speaker 2: just finished that up.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Just get your get your diploma, and
Speaker 1: Marine Corps will be there and God bless you.
Speaker 2: Then Heather's son Nick got his real estate life.
Speaker 1: I saw that and sold his first house. Good for him.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm still not even to the point where I
Speaker 2: can handle this information because I'm now watching the dark
Speaker 2: side of reality television.
Speaker 1: You mean on Vice.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not watching on Advice. I paid nineteen dollars
Speaker 2: on Apple TV, you miss Cheapskate. Well, once I realized
Speaker 2: they're going to be recapping The swan.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love the swan I love you get doctor
Speaker 1: debro on the swan Oh. Doctor Dubreu was on this
Speaker 1: one a lot of beauty pageant at the end, of course,
Speaker 1: I did. I fucking forgot until I saw their new faces,
Speaker 1: and I was like, guys, if you look back at
Speaker 1: like the first you know years of reality TV. My therapist,
Speaker 1: doctor jin she did a show called Married by America
Speaker 1: where America voted to marry two people. I mean, and
Speaker 1: she'll even talk about it like we love doctor jin Man.
Speaker 1: She's fucking awesome. But she but she was also a
Speaker 1: couple's couples therapy for ray or a couple's rehab probably
Speaker 1: all of it. Uh But anyway, back to Orange County, Teddy.
Speaker 2: Back to Orange County, we get to Tamra's daughter Sophia
Speaker 2: is writing, singing and producing her own music.
Speaker 1: Thank god, Sophia. Keep going. You're engineering, you're writing, you're producing.
Speaker 1: I mean you're like a one woman, you know, Phoenom,
Speaker 1: Keep going, keep going. I love to see that.
Speaker 2: And I can say this from the first time that
Speaker 2: I met Sophia, because when I first met her was like,
Speaker 2: it's kind of the beginning of COVID, and to where
Speaker 2: she is now, I've just seen this like metamorphos of
Speaker 2: her getting more and more comfortable in her growing and growing.
Speaker 2: That's wonderful and I think that's that's really cool because
Speaker 2: I think we forget that so many teenagers right now
Speaker 2: really went through the thick of it in COVID. They
Speaker 2: were taken out of school, they were taken out of
Speaker 2: their SoC so isolated. I know, like talking to Kyle
Speaker 2: about what Portia went through. Yeah, I mean my son's grown,
Speaker 2: so you know it's different. But I mean your children
Speaker 2: and like Dreid's kids, they've been homeschooled ever since. Well
Speaker 2: this is this is no judgment zone for people that
Speaker 2: do have their kids homeschool, but like my brothers did it,
Speaker 2: and I can't imagine how hard that would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like it might be like my brothers.
Speaker 2: They're like thirty, so I'm forty three. They're probably thirty
Speaker 2: and thirty two. I'm not great with numbers. But they
Speaker 2: were homeschooled because they went on tour with my dad.
Speaker 2: Like we lived very different lines. I went and lived
Speaker 2: with my mom. He was with Elane and he had
Speaker 2: the boys, and then they traveled with him and that
Speaker 2: was so they were homeschooled. But it put them in
Speaker 2: a very different social.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, socially, how are they Are they open?
Speaker 1: Are they not? Are they?
Speaker 2: I would say one is isn't and one isn't. But
Speaker 2: I would also say that it's hard, especially if you're
Speaker 2: on a reality television show. Well, your life is being exposed,
Speaker 2: so you're constantly being exposed, and then you don't have
Speaker 2: that reality check of like, this is my life right now?
Speaker 1: You have nowhere to go? Yeah, you have no kind
Speaker 1: of escape. So it's hard.
Speaker 2: But we see Sophia who has, now that I've realized,
Speaker 2: been on this show for seventeen years.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. She doesn't remember a time not being
Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, take that into exist, I mean,
Speaker 1: just take that in for a second. Your entire life
Speaker 1: has been entertainment for other people who have weighed in,
Speaker 1: who have commented, You've seen your mom go through good
Speaker 1: and bad things. They your parents got divorced on the show, Like,
Speaker 1: so all of these things have happened to this young woman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot, a lot.
Speaker 2: We're recapping oc from season three and Sophia's two.
Speaker 1: See that's you don't understand that you don't know anything
Speaker 1: other than all these people come over with cameras. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my life, and.
Speaker 2: And there's a certain level of performance that every child.
Speaker 2: Like remember when Cruise through that huge fit before we
Speaker 2: went to go see Yes the concert.
Speaker 1: I remember your face too. I was like, oh God,
Speaker 1: Like I was like, this is gonna make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like and he's just.
Speaker 1: Mom and I remembering, like that's not really normally his thing.
Speaker 2: But there is this pressure that it puts on kids.
Speaker 1: Yes, so yeah, So that's why you know, when you
Speaker 1: watch these kids on reality TV, it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: not going through a lot. They're going through a lot.
Speaker 1: I's not fair because it's not it's an interesting we
Speaker 1: need to see the dynamic, I think, yes, but it
Speaker 1: also puts strain on the family. And it also it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter whose family. It is how much money you
Speaker 1: have where you come from. When you're putting families on,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to kids, it's sensitive and it's
Speaker 1: a strain on everybody.
Speaker 2: But then we get to Katie's daughter.
Speaker 1: Oh, this girl, she told them kids and then the
Speaker 1: sun backed it up. Yeah, well, I also I don't
Speaker 1: know the little boy. I know little name, but he
Speaker 1: told on the whole family as like children, do you know?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's in a cent I'm not saying
Speaker 1: told them, but you know how kids are? Oh no, mommy,
Speaker 1: and man does housewives love a flashback?
Speaker 2: So they love a flashback. But then we get to
Speaker 2: I appreciated this. Gina says it's difficult for Travis to
Speaker 2: live separately from her, but he's now realizing that she
Speaker 2: is not responsible for the decision. Finally, we're getting the conversation.
Speaker 1: That you want to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like we could have had this
Speaker 2: conversation seventeen episodes ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know how men are?
Speaker 2: But do you do you think it's do.
Speaker 1: You know how men are?
Speaker 2: Or do you think that conversation we're only getting now
Speaker 2: because Tarma outed it on in London.
Speaker 1: It's possible, it's possible that Tama pushed that. Yes, absolutely, but.
Speaker 2: Like that would have been useful knowledge for us to have,
Speaker 2: Like I didn't understand why she would break up the
Speaker 2: family and do.
Speaker 1: All that now we do. And then you look at
Speaker 1: Gina differently looking back, You're like, oh, I understand why
Speaker 1: she did something.
Speaker 2: And it actually made Gina more likable.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like I was like, you know what, that's always
Speaker 1: the problem. It's like when you try to protect too much. Yes,
Speaker 1: you think you need to protect something, which, in actuality,
Speaker 1: had it just been open, people would have understood why
Speaker 1: you were reacting a certain way, why you were upset,
Speaker 1: maybe why you cried, maybe why you broke up your family.
Speaker 1: But and look, there's no problem is with these shows,
Speaker 1: there's no manual for this shit. You're like, really, you're
Speaker 1: doing the best you can. You're making decisions, you're trying
Speaker 1: to protect people, meaning your family or your children, and
Speaker 1: your story. Sometimes you meaning the woman on these shows,
Speaker 1: the women on these shows gets fucked.
Speaker 2: But I did feel in this moment that she actually
Speaker 2: really does love Travis. She does, and I think this
Speaker 2: was her line in the sand, yeah you need to.
Speaker 2: I didn't also realize that Travis wasn't actually divorced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a big key piece because now you
Speaker 1: understand why Gene is making these decisions and acting the
Speaker 1: way she is. Yeah. And that's also why you can't
Speaker 1: rush to judgment because you don't have all the facts. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But Travis says he's still unhappy about the decision, and
Speaker 2: Gina gets emotional, explained, she feels guilty and.
Speaker 1: Thinks they should go to therapy. Go to therapy.
Speaker 2: It's go to therapy, great, go to doctor tren.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she's not busy with Nick. Apparently she's really
Speaker 1: Shane Lomas and she probably fired me. No, she's awesome.
Speaker 2: But then the women arrive at Gin's engagement party and
Speaker 2: tacky bridesmaid's stresses.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, all right, the women arrive at Gin's engagement
Speaker 1: party and tachy bridesmaid's dresses. When aren't they tacky though
Speaker 1: they communes?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, nothing I love more than what's the
Speaker 2: sleeve called a cap or staff? Like a cap sleeve
Speaker 2: and a flower halo? That might be your first photo
Speaker 2: that we use for your riot.
Speaker 1: Fuck you, you know what, I'll never get any dick,
Speaker 1: you know, nobody will ever ask.
Speaker 2: Me even a flower crownwer.
Speaker 1: Crown or maybe a capsu leand in the eighties but
Speaker 1: not lately. I'm going to go on Google aie bitch.
Speaker 2: But there's a special guest, Joe Delossa.
Speaker 1: You don't know her, but she was. She was the
Speaker 1: first season of Orange County. I do know that she
Speaker 1: was with Slade yeah before Gresham was Yeah, and she
Speaker 1: was like.
Speaker 2: Young and she wanted to be a singer and he
Speaker 2: helped her, but he also held on to all the
Speaker 2: rights of her music.
Speaker 1: Okay, wow.
Speaker 2: And then Tamra tells Gina that she's decided to stop drinking.
Speaker 1: Probably a good idea for the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you in this moment? I'm wondering does she
Speaker 2: mean for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which we've all done. I think after Provence, I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you tapped out on that, and then don't worry.
Speaker 1: I embarrassed myself later I had to quit to put
Speaker 1: me in retirement. Yeah you got Can I have another
Speaker 1: class champion? Yeah? Can we put us our asses in retirement?
Speaker 2: Hold on, but I were listen, I know we're switching
Speaker 2: from Orange County for a second, but on New York
Speaker 2: right now, tamer and I just discussed Rebecca. Minka drinks
Speaker 2: in real life but doesn't drink at all on the show,
Speaker 2: and one of the girls is annoyed by that.
Speaker 1: Well, it means she's trying to control that. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: but who wants.
Speaker 2: A completely one hundred controlled human and then.
Speaker 1: Don't go on the show. My first year, I didn't drink.
Speaker 1: But I did that because I didn't know what I
Speaker 1: was doing and I wanted to be sober. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be caught off guard. I mean, and other
Speaker 1: than Provence, I would never have more than You're not two.
Speaker 1: Drinks are fun, you're easy, you can say a few
Speaker 1: cute things. You don't want to be me. At Diana's party,
Speaker 1: although it was im Shine.
Speaker 6: Or Aspen the Great One, I think I probably was
Speaker 6: still probably worse than I think. They say me, ma'am,
Speaker 6: I don't think so well. Heather says Matt and Katie
Speaker 6: ignored her. Katie and Matt think Heather snubbed them. I
Speaker 6: just thought they walked by each other.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't read that much into this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I didn't think. I thought it was
Speaker 1: kind of in crossing I think that that's making too
Speaker 1: much of it both ways.
Speaker 2: And I think that oftentimes, when you're entered and you're
Speaker 2: all getting liked and you're doing whatever, you just crossed
Speaker 2: by one another.
Speaker 1: It can happen. I don't. Let's not read too much
Speaker 1: into that. Yeah, there's something else I want to read into.
Speaker 1: The Shannon thing was my later better believe it. Wait
Speaker 1: to get into that, honey. But then we.
Speaker 2: Skipped down to Gina tells Tamra that her fight with
Speaker 2: Shannon is affecting her relationship with herself and Jen.
Speaker 1: I I don't think so. I mean, I don't.
Speaker 2: I feel like, truthfully, Tamra and Jen don't like one another.
Speaker 2: I think that, not at this moment, but I feel
Speaker 2: like they're very different human beings. I feel like Jen
Speaker 2: is very passive. No, let's say, I don't want to
Speaker 2: say passive. She has the softer edges. I just think
Speaker 2: that she's Look, they're just different.
Speaker 1: Do you think Jen is naive? There's a bit of
Speaker 1: innocence in Jen. Yes, I want to say innocence. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say naivete, but yes, I see what
Speaker 1: you're saying. Like, I think that, but there's a sweetness
Speaker 1: and a kindness inside of Jen.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that I really like When I
Speaker 2: filmed Orange County the one time, the woman that I
Speaker 2: other than Tarmarkus use, but the woman that I naturally
Speaker 2: connected with the most was Jen.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There was something in her eyes.
Speaker 1: She seems like a sensitive, kind, gentle soul like I
Speaker 1: naturally liked her, and which is also why I don't
Speaker 1: want her to get fucked over with Ryan. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's going to, but I'm saying I'm nervous. I'm nervous,
Speaker 1: and that's okay. I'm allowed to say that. But do
Speaker 1: you do you find Ryan attractive? I never look at
Speaker 1: men and find there I'm attractive. Never, well, not really,
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm looking at here. I'm not looking
Speaker 1: at him like that. I'm looking I'm looking at how
Speaker 1: he is. I'm looking at his how he makes me feel,
Speaker 1: not what he looks like. But what do I get
Speaker 1: from Remember I always say this, I'm never looking at
Speaker 1: the way someone looks necessarily, I'm always looking at the
Speaker 1: feel I'm always the feeling I get from them, And
Speaker 1: the feeling I get from them is just just like
Speaker 1: I feel like Jens, a sweet girl but you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want him to take advantage of her kindness
Speaker 1: and sweetness, and I'll just leave it like that, I think,
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I yes, And I've recently been doing some research on this,
Speaker 2: and I think it is very common for women who
Speaker 2: are close to perimenopause to be going through transitional phases
Speaker 2: and make big life decisions that they.
Speaker 1: That ain't nothing but a midlfe price. This almost what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, midlife crisis. But I think within that midlife crisis,
Speaker 2: she left what was comfortable for somebody that probably made
Speaker 2: her feel.
Speaker 1: Really good, probably made her feel really good, yeah, and
Speaker 1: brought up all of these beautiful feelings that maybe have
Speaker 1: been asleep. I don't know. I'm speaking for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually have no idea.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I can imagine that something
Speaker 1: like that has happened.
Speaker 2: But then Ryan goes on and says that Joe was
Speaker 2: the one who introduced him to Like God, who you
Speaker 2: realize Matt is the guy who's connected to the Dodger
Speaker 2: guide to the You can say the name Tony, you can.
Speaker 1: Say it, Okay, So either way, Matt. The fact that
Speaker 1: Matt is can an episode a little bit of Heaven. Okay,
Speaker 1: it is so Matt the bookie slash professional gambler slash.
Speaker 2: Or money launderer is how he's in quotes here.
Speaker 1: Ah. Matt then calls Ryan his money launderer. Yes, see, guys,
Speaker 1: don't go on this show. See you make fun of
Speaker 1: things like that, and then it fucking ends up here
Speaker 1: and now you got to answer for it. You realize it.
Speaker 1: Somebody out there, some low end, fucking lawyer, is going
Speaker 1: to make him answer for that. But they say this
Speaker 1: shit that they showed this more than once. And I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about the FEDS, so don't be No, we.
Speaker 2: Aren't talking about the Feds. We're too low brow for that.
Speaker 2: But the fact that they showed this more than once
Speaker 2: means the editors wanted to make sure we didn't miss
Speaker 2: the nugget.
Speaker 1: They're driving home the point that he is a quote
Speaker 1: money launderer. Guys, don't make it. I just want to
Speaker 1: point out something. Yeah, very small.
Speaker 2: If all of a sudden, all of my mail is
Speaker 2: going to your I know you said this before, it's
Speaker 2: fucking weird.
Speaker 1: It is weird. It is weird. It's weird. I don't
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 2: Exactly that means. I also, I also, do you know
Speaker 2: why Matt thought he should film?
Speaker 1: I agree? Also, I want to know where Ryan and
Speaker 1: Matt's relationship is today after Ryan cooperated with federal government.
Speaker 1: Are you not in jail? I don't know. Is he
Speaker 1: waiting to be sentenced? I don't know. But here's what
Speaker 1: I want to know, Ryan, Are you and Matt still cool?
Speaker 1: Let us know? I would like to know these.
Speaker 2: Males still come to your house? Are mail?
Speaker 1: Is there going to be in a like a somebody
Speaker 1: called me from the Orange County jail. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know anybody down there. Maybe actually it's
Speaker 1: from the riot account. No, maybe it was from him.
Speaker 2: Hold on one of the prisoners. There's a prisoner's dating site.
Speaker 1: No, well, I don't know about that. But have you
Speaker 1: seen that shit on TikTok where they call up and like,
Speaker 1: do the hey, I'm getting out in like three weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a down ass bitch. Have you seen
Speaker 1: that shit? Have you seen how good Army Hammer looks?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was watching it to stay his Army Hammer time.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's I'm ready to move into your
Speaker 2: next door neighbor situation.
Speaker 1: Well he's long gone. Yeah, see it so right? Yeah, Matt.
Speaker 1: We love that Matt is a waiting sentencing, and I
Speaker 1: have a feeling that Matt's going to do good time.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if he and Ryan if they're friends.
Speaker 1: I mean, because after you talk like that, you probably
Speaker 1: aren't the besties. I don't know how it's done. I
Speaker 1: don't really know how it's done, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to know. But unfortunately I got somebody in my family
Speaker 1: who does know. But then who's a waiting sentencing in December? Thanks?
Speaker 1: I mean, my god, Oh Mike, should I be at
Speaker 1: the courtroom taking it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Please don't me? And Ronald God.
Speaker 2: Emily confronts Katie about Kaylee's comments about Heather. Emily says
Speaker 2: her sons are nine years old and have no idea
Speaker 2: who Heather is. Emily questions why Katie would tell Tamrack.
Speaker 2: Katie says Cally was the one who told Tamra, and
Speaker 2: then Katie says it was her mother daughter moment and
Speaker 2: they were giggling. Okay, before we even get into the
Speaker 2: highs and lows of this, Emily, this is I know
Speaker 2: I do a podcast with you, you wearing your wedding dress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not an ugly bridesmaid dress. No, that's
Speaker 1: your ugly wedding dress.
Speaker 2: Listen, I own the same ugly wedding dress. It's from
Speaker 2: Nicole Miller.
Speaker 1: You guys had the same wedding dress. I shortened mine,
Speaker 1: oh you did.
Speaker 2: And then I borrowed my friend's pink lubatons to wear
Speaker 2: with it, which really.
Speaker 1: Is but you know what, I kind of like that.
Speaker 1: That's sweet, but like, is that that picture right there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cute though, but.
Speaker 2: Like that's not a fucking there's no white bridesmaid dress.
Speaker 1: And then the fact that Shane had the bouquet right, Yeah, Shane,
Speaker 1: her husband had the bouquet in the refrigerator or freezer
Speaker 1: or some shit.
Speaker 2: He saved that shit.
Speaker 1: That's very sweet at him, did you like? No, No,
Speaker 1: Well my first wedding, I did you know? I got
Speaker 1: married at Saint Patrick's Cathedral, so I was married into
Speaker 1: a Sicilian family. So yes, The answer is you you
Speaker 1: keep the top layer of your cake for one year
Speaker 1: and so where do you think that is? Now? Well,
Speaker 1: we threw it in the trash. But my marriage to Tom,
Speaker 1: I got married to La Country Club. We didn't have
Speaker 1: anything like that. We went to Vegas for dinner. It
Speaker 1: was great. It's all the right, Yeah, it was, it
Speaker 1: actually was. It was good times.
Speaker 2: Then Jen tells Tarma she doesn't want to keep rehashing things.
Speaker 2: Tarmra says she has all the texts and Shannon brought
Speaker 2: this up to come between them. Jen says she's uncomfortable
Speaker 2: and their friendship, and Taramra says she's not here to
Speaker 2: fight and walks away. But then Vicky, who.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well, she you're not that. I mean, come
Speaker 1: on already.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna pull myself aside from this. But does
Speaker 2: Vicky seem like she wants to be on this television chat?
Speaker 1: I okay, personally, I think Vicky would like to be
Speaker 1: on the television show on her own terms.
Speaker 2: Right, But because she's not, she's gonna bitch about it
Speaker 2: while she's on the television show, which.
Speaker 1: To me is not entertaining to It feels that way
Speaker 1: like if if you are willing to show up, you
Speaker 1: have to give one hundred percent, you have to entertain.
Speaker 1: If not, I don't come, yeah, don't come, or get
Speaker 1: on another show or go on another show, which I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's another show for Vicky out there anyway, But
Speaker 1: now it got canceled.
Speaker 2: Okay, and now the whole all that's canceled.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: But okay, no, the real Housewive.
Speaker 7: What is it?
Speaker 2: The girls trip?
Speaker 1: Oh? The Ultimate girls Trip?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Is that the one they're not going to hear that one?
Speaker 1: Is that the brandy one? Yeah, damn it. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's got something else going on. There's always
Speaker 1: the stage show, live show. There's always the live show.
Speaker 1: You stop with that shady laughing. No, they love it,
Speaker 1: not the shady laughing. Oh okay, Oh that is delight.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my gosh, not this.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: There's always the live show, you know, there's always the merch.
Speaker 1: Enough merch sales, you know, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Throw a couple of shirts out. Let's get a couple
Speaker 2: of pics going. Yeah, but anyhow, Then the women get
Speaker 2: together for group photo.
Speaker 1: On the road. Let's let's fucking go.
Speaker 2: Then Shannon says she's creating healthy boundaries from camera. She
Speaker 2: says she is truly done with this and storms off.
Speaker 1: Okay, the next thing that happens with Shannon and Matt, Shannon,
Speaker 1: you lost me here. This is not that's a she Matt.
Speaker 2: All Matt was doing was going, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be next to the other Matt who's allegedly getting indicted
Speaker 2: money launderer. He's like, I'm just trying to sit here.
Speaker 1: Listen, Matt, if you can hear us, you're a good man.
Speaker 1: This is Katie's husband, Matt, not the other match. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: everybody knows Katie's husband. Matt. You were just being a
Speaker 1: good guy, and you know what, you didn't deserve that,
Speaker 1: and I did not like the way Shannon twisted this,
Speaker 1: and it's not it's not cool. So clearly Matt's sitting there,
Speaker 1: it's just camera fuel, Like you realize this, right.
Speaker 2: You just created a whole scenario that you didn't need to.
Speaker 2: But so Matt's just trying to enjoy his time, probably
Speaker 2: enjoy like I.
Speaker 1: Don't not enjoying any of this. He's just being supportive
Speaker 1: of Katie.
Speaker 2: He just wants Katie to do well.
Speaker 1: Right, he's not a good guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not even having more than like his standard
Speaker 2: one Vodkatonic Like, he's.
Speaker 1: Probably seems like a really nice stableman. You know the
Speaker 1: men on these shows, this show in particular is really
Speaker 1: they're really an eye people.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you can't actually comment on the men
Speaker 2: on your show, because there is.
Speaker 1: There isn't it. There'sn't a damn man to be found.
Speaker 1: We run them off.
Speaker 2: You can't fucking find one. But I'm finding one on
Speaker 2: Riot and I Kerica and he'll be on next seat.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I can fill my bed every night. It's
Speaker 1: just do I do it? No, Okay, I'll be looking. Okay,
Speaker 1: you get on out there.
Speaker 2: Well anyho, he's standing there, he's trying to have a
Speaker 2: sip of his drink. Shannon runs off. This time she
Speaker 2: hasn't taken off her Mike. Shannon says, she used to
Speaker 2: say she's done and come back. Now when she says
Speaker 2: she's done, she means it.
Speaker 1: She means it, okay, And Matt says that maybe it's
Speaker 1: time to walk away. And he cares about her and
Speaker 1: she's been kind to him, and Shannon tells Matt that
Speaker 1: that makes her angry because he doesn't know her at all.
Speaker 1: Like Shannon, don't get mad at Matt. He's simply just
Speaker 1: a guy trying to be nice and have a conversation
Speaker 1: with you. And he says, well, you're standing in front
Speaker 1: of me right now telling me you're melting down. Yeah. Look,
Speaker 1: I mean look, don't if you want support find a
Speaker 1: gay man. Don't go to a straight man. Okay, here
Speaker 1: the gay man laughing in the background. That's a gay
Speaker 1: man laughing in the background. I saved my point. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. Don't go to a straight man
Speaker 1: have with a meltdown and look for sympathy. You ain't
Speaker 1: getting it. You ain't getting it. You're getting a fucking
Speaker 1: solution to a problem. Because that's how men think. Only
Speaker 1: your gay is. They're going to be like, bitch, yes,
Speaker 1: but you handled him, let's fix your get back out there, tiger. No,
Speaker 1: that's not what this is. And I didn't like it
Speaker 1: that she tried to make a bad you know, feel
Speaker 1: like he was. I didn't like that.
Speaker 2: This scene felt like a sneak peak of what Shannon
Speaker 2: storms the door can potentially be like it was.
Speaker 1: Listen, they lifted him for a reason. Don't don't be fooled.
Speaker 2: But also if you don't want to be there.
Speaker 1: Leave I don't think him or her her.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't think anything.
Speaker 1: But many times I don't think what even he didn't
Speaker 1: say anything, Matt Matt's a nice man. Let's not do
Speaker 1: this to Matt. He doesn't deserve it.
Speaker 2: She tried, but she turned it into like breaking the
Speaker 2: fourth Law.
Speaker 1: She turned it into she just gave Tamra all of
Speaker 1: the confirmation I've been telling you, Shannon's this way, here's ship.
Speaker 1: Here it is, here's your evidence. Yep, here you go.
Speaker 1: But then John Jansen arrives, which I gotta say something.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he didn't they didn't show more of him,
Speaker 1: or he didn't come in. I'm glad he just picked
Speaker 1: her up. That's the kind of danger.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: Well. What I was about to no, no, it's not that.
Speaker 1: What I was about to say is I would have
Speaker 1: liked him throughout the season. Had he just picked her
Speaker 1: up and dropped her off, and it had been minimal.
Speaker 1: When you're in a confessional ship like that, that's where
Speaker 1: you lose me.
Speaker 2: I would have been fine.
Speaker 7: Had he just dropped her off, showed up to pick
Speaker 7: her up, me too, But him needing to get out
Speaker 7: and the whole Emily love you.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe one too many espresso martini's, Oh yeah, well
Speaker 2: and Gina.
Speaker 1: Up yes over the wall to see Yeah, just go
Speaker 1: to the front door. And look outside a few but
Speaker 1: it's not entertaining all right. The end credits, which I
Speaker 1: I mean, ladies, I'm I'm gonna need I'm gonna need more.
Speaker 1: Shannon's girls are thriving in New York City in Paris.
Speaker 1: That sounds fun. Shannon is slowly entering the dating pool
Speaker 1: issue on Riyah, and although Alexis may have taken her problem,
Speaker 1: one still remains and that's the unsettled lawsuit.
Speaker 2: Emily Shane finally went to the doctor, and though his
Speaker 2: tests were normal, Emily upped his life insurance. Paulici mlamind
Speaker 2: of Funny Luke and Keller have a new babysitter who
Speaker 2: does not spread rumors. Yeah, Emily, this is telling me
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to work a touch on your storyline
Speaker 2: for next season.
Speaker 1: Teddy mailing just this ending credit? Can I tell you
Speaker 1: something about all of it? Felt kind of lame? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did you know? I mean, oh my god, if
Speaker 1: you could only live my life for a day, you
Speaker 1: go ahead and take Tamara. Sophia's attending community college for
Speaker 1: studio arts like we saw. And while Tamra intends to
Speaker 1: speak her truth and be the bigger person, she still wait, oh,
Speaker 1: she's still waiting for Jen's wedding invitation. Jen, you could
Speaker 1: fight me and Erica. Oh my god, we're so much
Speaker 1: more fun. Yeah, like we. I mean, Tamra's a good time,
Speaker 1: but maybe not. You're kind of good time right now.
Speaker 1: I know that was all he did.
Speaker 2: You know what, Ryan, I'm don't appreciate you not thanking
Speaker 2: me as well.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think he did, but I was just
Speaker 1: more vocal that day. You like Jen, You've look listen.
Speaker 2: I there's much There's a lot more people I dislike
Speaker 2: more than Jen.
Speaker 1: Yes, you have a long list. However, I will say this,
Speaker 1: and I think that we can agree on this. Jen
Speaker 1: has a sweetheart. Like we've said earlier, she has a
Speaker 1: very sweet spirit about her. There's something sweet about her
Speaker 1: and I want I don't want anybody get hurt. That's
Speaker 1: all I care about. I can answer it. If you
Speaker 1: had to pick a bestie, would it be Jen or Katie? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: over Katie? Yeah yeah, because I think that Katie gossiped
Speaker 1: about how they're with with her daughter.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 1: And as much as I want Katie to meet her
Speaker 1: mom and I want that to go well, and I
Speaker 1: think she has a cool husband. It's her first season,
Speaker 1: and I think that you know, she found out some
Speaker 1: you know, you make mistakes in you.
Speaker 2: I a hard don't love when the ending credit is
Speaker 2: when they say at the at the final episode, we're
Speaker 2: going to do something, and then it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: So Katie was supposedly going to see her mom but
Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. But it hasn't happened yet. I don't
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 2: No, No, I want to meet it because you want.
Speaker 1: To pay off, payoff.
Speaker 2: I understand I am diagnosed, like I am diagnosed OCD.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: You didn't know that. No, not really diagnosed. So like
Speaker 2: since I was younger, So I need like that closure.
Speaker 1: You have to have that. I kind of need it.
Speaker 1: So if you're saying I'm doing that, then like I
Speaker 1: need to. But you are that person if somebody says
Speaker 1: I'm doing this, you do do that to the degree
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: Noticed, unfortunately for everyone in my life.
Speaker 1: But so Katie says.
Speaker 2: Katie has yet to travel to South Korea, but hopes
Speaker 2: to meet her birth mother later this year.
Speaker 1: I want it to go well. Heather will not be
Speaker 1: getting a super Air. Yeah, we didn't think so well
Speaker 1: you can take heathers now right. Okay. So Nikki's first
Speaker 1: real estate deal broke a record for the highest sale
Speaker 1: in Long Beach. Congratulations. And while Terry's nose still doesn't
Speaker 1: make him look like George Clooney, he isn't snoring anymore,
Speaker 1: which I'll take any day. A man snoring next to
Speaker 1: me is I can't do it. I'd rather have a dog. No,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Tom did snore?
Speaker 2: Question when he snored? Would you allow it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Or would you push to the side?
Speaker 1: I put so, he so I push your shoulder, yeah,
Speaker 1: or I'd adjust his head or any man that sleeps
Speaker 1: next to me, I will adjust their head because you know, No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 2: If here's the thing, If I fall asleep first, I
Speaker 2: can live with it.
Speaker 1: No, But to get woken up out of a deep
Speaker 1: sleep by some man snoring is not good. But also
Speaker 1: do we yes, yes, I had this full on with someone.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're snoring. He's like, all right, watch
Speaker 1: this full on? I was snoring. No, Yeah, that's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Well it happens. Well.
Speaker 2: Gina and Travis are still apart and share custody of
Speaker 2: Meatball and Clover.
Speaker 1: Which are, by the way, are so cute. They are
Speaker 1: really cute.
Speaker 2: Gina is optimistic about their future as Travis gets closer
Speaker 2: to finalizing his divorce. Are you optimistic about their future, Gina?
Speaker 1: I just want you to be hopefully uptimist, cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 1: Travis get the divorce, Gena and Travis can go from there.
Speaker 1: I just don't ladies, please protect yourselves.
Speaker 2: That's so anyways, then we get to the end, so
Speaker 2: all the end credits are dull.
Speaker 1: Oh everything is lovely, and then.
Speaker 2: Boom, cameras are back up.
Speaker 1: Three weeks later, Ryan is being accused of laundering money
Speaker 1: through casinos in Vegas. God damn it.
Speaker 2: Hold on, who was the guy that everybody said that
Speaker 2: you were dating. That was the old guy from Vegas.
Speaker 1: So that was Michael Gone who study work at South Point.
Speaker 1: He owns so he's a nice man though, and like
Speaker 1: a Vegas legend.
Speaker 2: Ryan is being accused of laundering money through casinos in Vegas.
Speaker 1: That's a really big deal, y'all.
Speaker 2: I don't really understand because I don't care.
Speaker 1: So you take the money. So what you do is
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. You take money. Let's say,
Speaker 1: we have fifty thousand dollars that we've obtained illegally through betting. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we've obtained it, not through through this sad, No,
Speaker 1: we've we we're going to take this. We were a
Speaker 1: bookie and we've made fifty thousand dollars like his friend Matt.
Speaker 1: But in order to make this money real, we're going
Speaker 1: to go play. We're going to go buy in at
Speaker 1: a casino for fifty g's. Now we're going to lose
Speaker 1: some of this money, right, but what we walk out
Speaker 1: with is clean, and that's money. How is it clean?
Speaker 1: Because it goes through it right, you put it into
Speaker 1: the system, you put it in. You've lost some. It's
Speaker 1: not just fifty thousand dollars that appears ut a no way.
Speaker 2: It's not a fifty thousand dollars check that you've gotten
Speaker 2: from right Nutrigina. And now you're trying to pretend that.
Speaker 1: Right, it's not. It doesn't come through. It's illegally. It's
Speaker 1: taking illegal money and attempting to make it legitimate. Okay.
Speaker 2: So this is where things get a little bit sketchy.
Speaker 2: Ryan says that life throws things at the at you
Speaker 2: that you never expect and Jen says.
Speaker 1: Is that like a pun on the show? Hey a
Speaker 1: Tony because he's a picture? Yeah, Rose, I know it
Speaker 1: grossed me out. I mean, but the Lord's plan when
Speaker 1: we invoke God here Ryan, I know that I do
Speaker 1: some praying too, but God, Jesus I I but you
Speaker 1: know I felt for Jim when she said everybody's going
Speaker 1: to question me and it's going to be a bloodbath. Yes,
Speaker 1: dear call me. I can help you.
Speaker 2: Tamra then says Jen's an idiot to marry him.
Speaker 1: You have to put this on right now.
Speaker 2: But then Tamra, Emily, Heather and Alexis meet. Emily says
Speaker 2: it was sixteen million dollars and he could go to prison.
Speaker 2: Tamra says she was right about Brooks and now she
Speaker 2: was right about Ryan.
Speaker 1: So you know the backstory about yes with the cancer thing. Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: Tamra was right, and he's not going to go to
Speaker 1: jail because he cooperated. Matt's going to go to jail.
Speaker 1: But I have a question. If you cooperate, there's different deals.
Speaker 2: Did your money still get taken away?
Speaker 1: Buck, Yeah, I guess Ryan's still rich. No, any money
Speaker 1: that was obtained illegally is taken away and you possibly
Speaker 1: have to pay restitution. I don't know who the deals are. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody in the legal world can tell us.
Speaker 1: But no, you don't get to keep that. That is
Speaker 1: illegal money. So ill got engaged whatever the fucking word is.
Speaker 1: But yes, no you don't keep anything. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, they may want more whatever. I mean, This
Speaker 1: isn't guys. I just want to say something. There's a
Speaker 1: lot more to this story than housewives, and you know
Speaker 1: this is I just again, Jen, this is serious, that's all.
Speaker 2: But I do wonder and I and I start to
Speaker 2: have empathy for Jen because you can see she starts
Speaker 2: to film with some of the women and she's panicking
Speaker 2: about this.
Speaker 1: She should, she should panic. But then we now know
Speaker 1: that she's doubled down on her relationship with him. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's okay, you can do that. But that's fine. If
Speaker 1: you love him, that's great. And he cooperated, so apparently
Speaker 1: he's not going to go to jail. But you're going
Speaker 1: to have fallout from this, Jen, and they're never going
Speaker 1: to let you go from it. You already know that.
Speaker 1: And these women are going to seize on that, just
Speaker 1: like they do in every franchise on Every Housewives show,
Speaker 1: and you're going to be interrogated.
Speaker 2: Well, they said, Ryan received immunity for his testimony. His friend,
Speaker 2: Matthew Bauer pled guilty and faces up to eighteen years
Speaker 2: in federal presence. Yes, Jen and Ryan's wedding is planned
Speaker 2: for June twenty twenty five. Okay, knowing what you know
Speaker 2: about Ryan at this point, and granted he's now made
Speaker 2: her feel better than she's probably felt in a really
Speaker 2: long time, how about we just.
Speaker 1: Live and have a nice time, and maybe you don't
Speaker 1: become legally, you don't enter into a legal contract with
Speaker 1: this man, Jin, not right now? Is she's safer to
Speaker 1: just stay engaged? Hell yeah, just don't please, don't marry
Speaker 1: this man until you know all the facts, until all
Speaker 1: the dust is settled. That's that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: I just don't think that you need to do that.
Speaker 1: That would be if you were my friend, Jin, That's
Speaker 1: what i'd say to you. I know you love Ryan,
Speaker 1: I know he loves you. That's wonderful. Right now, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean that, but I just right no, not right now,
Speaker 1: not right now, No, No, just give it a minute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no need to rush, but I can say that
Speaker 1: Orange County is giving. I enjoyed it. I think compares.
Speaker 2: I'm watching every freaking show right now.
Speaker 1: I can tell.
Speaker 2: If your ship doesn't measure up at this point, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be really upset.
Speaker 1: Who me Hill, Oh, I can't control what these broads
Speaker 1: do or don't do. I mean, you're one of the broads.
Speaker 1: I can only be myself, Honey. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've noticed the last few years, who's been, you know,
Speaker 1: shoveling out shit? Fuck? Well, I don't know. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Let me say, Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna like it.
Speaker 1: There's enough strife to keep you entertained. Okay, good. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's different. It's a different it's a different vibe. That's
Speaker 1: why you watch different franchises. Everybody has a different signature.
Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate it. Thank you guys so much
Speaker 2: for tuning in to another episode of to teas in
Speaker 2: a pod.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Eric and I will be recapping the reunions. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it's here, and I hope so much.
Speaker 2: More because I don't want to miss listen. I'm not
Speaker 2: afraid to bring social media into this. Who wants Erica
Speaker 2: to continue on with me in some capacity.
Speaker 1: I've had a good time, Teddy, I've had a really
Speaker 1: nice time, and I enjoy.
Speaker 2: Are you are?
Speaker 1: Are you giving me like the polite push off on
Speaker 1: the ryot? No, I'm not swiping on you. Here's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that I have enjoyed my time here
Speaker 1: with you, and I think that we've discovered something really
Speaker 1: cool together. And I enjoy talking with everyone. I enjoy
Speaker 1: watching everybody in the comments, and I also like to
Speaker 1: get to spend this time with you. It's fun for
Speaker 1: me and we get to connect a different way than
Speaker 1: if we were just meeting up with all the other women.
Speaker 1: So thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2: Well, I've appreciated you doing this and you give me
Speaker 2: joy every week.
Speaker 1: Good good. I want I'm here to make you smile.
Speaker 1: And you know what, That's what this is all about, guys,
Speaker 1: this is you. Listen. You watch these shows so that
Speaker 1: you can, you know, take a break from your own
Speaker 1: life and step into somebody else's shoes. And if Teddy
Speaker 1: and I can make you smile in a recap, that's
Speaker 1: all that we're here for. Yeah, or get mad at us, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get mad at that too, feel something though, feel some
Speaker 1: kind of emotion.
Speaker 2: That's all the hours, all we need.
Speaker 1: We're entertaining.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks guys,