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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us again on the Jay Boys Show today.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot of want to cover. But first off,

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Speaker 1: we are in remote locations. Cone coming through the COVID

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Speaker 1: protocol like a champ. I think he's going to be

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Speaker 1: back on the active roster list here very soon. Glad

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Speaker 1: to see you're doing well. Blaine joining us as well.

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Speaker 1: Healthy at least that's what he said. So we'll take

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Speaker 1: his word for it. But look, here's how I want

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Speaker 1: the bush on this. There's a narrative out there that

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Speaker 1: I I want to go through like a Disney movie

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Speaker 1: and follow the bouncing balls to explain why playoff expansion

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Speaker 1: would help parody. All right, and there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: different buckets on this one. Let's talk about the SEC

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Speaker 1: bucket For those who think that with a twelve team

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Speaker 1: but the SEC teams play each other eight times a year,

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Speaker 1: and now with Texas and Oklahoma, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: math doesn't add up. Everybody can't go ten and two.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting in at eight and four. If you're

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Speaker 1: be a hell of a nine and three. But guess

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Speaker 1: what if you say, all right, let's leave it how

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Speaker 1: who's playing in the Natty again, there's always fifty percent

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Speaker 1: of the college football playoff is the SEC. So if

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Speaker 1: which they wouldn't, it would be the exact same thing.

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Speaker 1: So reducing it and adding parody makes no sense. That

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Speaker 1: also when you look at expanding the playoff, do you

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Speaker 1: know what helps parody the most recruiting? What are the

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Speaker 1: best companies have the best employees. That's how it works

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Speaker 1: in life, and the teams that are recruiting on the

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Speaker 1: It is a business decision. And right now, Alabama and

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Speaker 1: football season, Georgia and Alabama are playing for this championship. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and that's just the way that it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: But I think moving forward, we could have a situation

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Speaker 1: let's make no mistake about it, Jake, the powers that

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Speaker 1: It's just going to be who gets that money. Right.

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Speaker 1: Every Bowl game that I've seen this season has been

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Speaker 1: be the ultimate decision that needs to be made. That's

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Speaker 1: above my pay grade, that's above y'all's pay grade. But

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Speaker 1: the playoff if it's done the right way and if

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Speaker 1: it's done for the betterment of our sport. Yeah, and Blaine,

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Speaker 1: again I don't know what they want. I would guess

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Speaker 1: they want more SEC teams in, and they've got fifty

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Speaker 1: is a franchise answer for one of these NFL teams

426
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Speaker 1: just so I can watch the kid play football for

427
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Speaker 1: a long long time. I absolutely love what he brings

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Speaker 1: to the sport. And when you're talking about the Senior

429
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Speaker 1: Bowl and things like that, I mean, we had my

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Speaker 1: father and all Richard todd On here talking about if

431
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Speaker 1: he hadn't played. It's ironic that Carrel got hurt in

432
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Speaker 1: the Sugar Bowl, because that's what mister Richard had to

433
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Speaker 1: play in his senior year, played in the Sugar Bowl

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Speaker 1: and then played in the Senior Bowl, and because of

435
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Speaker 1: that he ended up becoming a first round pick. He

436
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Speaker 1: most certainly wouldn't have been without those two games. So

437
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Speaker 1: Matt was on a little bit of a different situation,

438
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Speaker 1: and the question becomes, well, was that the right decision

439
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Speaker 1: to play? I don't know. Only he can say, right.

440
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a ball player who decided to play ball,

441
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Speaker 1: So yes, the right decision, you know. I mean I

442
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Speaker 1: don't I can't say that I would have made that decision.

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Speaker 1: I may have taken the more Kenny Pickett approach if

444
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Speaker 1: I had been a round draft pick coming out in

445
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Speaker 1: twenty ten, Okay, which I most certainly was not. But

446
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Speaker 1: I can certainly understand Kenney Pickett supporting his team from

447
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Speaker 1: the press box up there and rooting them on and

448
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Speaker 1: trying to be you know, a coach on the side,

449
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Speaker 1: But you know, Matt decided to play. He's a ball

450
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Speaker 1: player and I'll respect that for the rest of time. Man. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 1: and look again, it goes back to what Blaine saying,

452
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Speaker 1: and our father actually tore his ACL on a sprinkler

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Speaker 1: head at the Senior Bowl. That's a risk that guys

454
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Speaker 1: take because the Senior Bowl, like I said, is the

455
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Speaker 1: most important bowl outside of the playoff game. But to

456
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Speaker 1: tie it into the expansion argument, one of the greatest

457
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Speaker 1: arguments for expansion is you limit opt outs because going

458
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Speaker 1: towards the end of the year, if you got a

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Speaker 1: chance to make the playoff, you're not opting out. Then

460
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Speaker 1: if you make the playoff, the twelve teams that do,

461
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Speaker 1: that's eight more teams that are not going to have

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Speaker 1: opt out. Because this bowl season there's been a ton

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Speaker 1: of opt out. It's almost impossible to bet these It's

464
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Speaker 1: like betting the NFL preseason because so many guys are

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Speaker 1: opting out. So you take a slice out of that

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Speaker 1: as well. But at the end of the day, like

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Speaker 1: Blaine saying, I think that's our favorite saying. At the

468
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Speaker 1: end of the day, hopefully you're watching this the middle

469
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Speaker 1: of the day, beginning of the day, and of the

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Speaker 1: day care. It's the player's choice, and no player is

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Speaker 1: going to opt out of a playoff game. Haven't seen it.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, yeah, I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: one more thing there in terms of the love of

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Speaker 1: the game or not showcasing a love of the game,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure. I have to go back and

476
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Speaker 1: see exactly what Kirk said, because I didn't think it

477
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Speaker 1: was just specifically on opt outs. But there are more ways,

478
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Speaker 1: many more ways to showcase your love or lack of

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Speaker 1: love for the game than just deciding to opt out.

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Speaker 1: Like we said at that point, it has become a

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Speaker 1: business decision. Hopefully if you're one of these guys like

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Speaker 1: I think he was talking about Nakobe Dean or one

483
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Speaker 1: of those guys, one of those linebackers for Georgia, you know,

484
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Speaker 1: saying that every single day they've showed up in the

485
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Speaker 1: off season and are ready to work and are so

486
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Speaker 1: obsessed with the game that they would be doing this

487
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Speaker 1: no matter what if there were cell phones or what

488
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Speaker 1: the distractions were for them. So there are other ways

489
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Speaker 1: to showcase your love or lack of love for the

490
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Speaker 1: game throughout an entire career rather than just that opt

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Speaker 1: out decision at the end without a doubt. And again

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Speaker 1: the proofs in the putting. At this point, you've made

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Speaker 1: it this long. You don't survive in this game. If

494
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Speaker 1: you don't put the work in, you get out what

495
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Speaker 1: you put in. It's an assembly line game. You put

496
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Speaker 1: work in, you're gonna get something out of it. And

497
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Speaker 1: look love Kirk Kirkstreet. I think Kirk does an unbelievable job.

498
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Speaker 1: I really do. I got a lot of respect for him,

499
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to take him out of context.

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Speaker 1: That's just one example to me of not understanding the

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Speaker 1: nuance of what the opt out really is. And once

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Speaker 1: you understand the nuance, you can find a way to

503
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Speaker 1: combat it somehow, so you know again when you look

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Speaker 1: at it in totality. My biggest thing and the thing

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Speaker 1: I want the audience to take for this narrative the

506
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Speaker 1: most is you can't lump it all in one bucket

507
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Speaker 1: because you can't find the nuance of it, and it

508
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Speaker 1: just doesn't add. Fifteen years ago, a decade and a

509
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Speaker 1: half ago, the Death Star opened its doors. An Emperor

510
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Speaker 1: Saban walked in from the Miami Dolphins, and it has

511
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Speaker 1: been the greatest dynasty and something that won't be replicated

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, once he is gone. And if you're

513
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Speaker 1: an Alabama fan, you should be a rich Ride fan,

514
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: because without rich Rode turning the job down, there is

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Speaker 1: no Nick Saban And I've got a sneak in suspicion

516
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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have gone good. And when you look back

517
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Speaker 1: at it, I know we've talked about Nick Saban a lot,

518
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Speaker 1: and people will will talk about different reasons that he's

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Speaker 1: been successful. To me, there's three. There's three reasons, recruiting

520
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Speaker 1: obviously from Julio Jones on what he's been able to do,

521
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: and he says it himself, has been able to put

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Speaker 1: them in a position to win. The second one malleability,

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00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: the ability, even when you're having success, to look toward

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Speaker 1: the future and say, I'm going to have to change

525
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. We are going to have to change

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You don't beat the stock market for

527
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: twenty straight years by using the same formula. The guys

528
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Speaker 1: that do the best in the stock market are the

529
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Speaker 1: ones that have success but also understand when they look

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Speaker 1: at the field and see how it's changing and adjust

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Speaker 1: before the adjustment to me, Nick Saban, if you look

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Speaker 1: at the way he won. Early came to the realization

533
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Speaker 1: that the game is changing, the rules are changing. You're

534
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: not winning games nine to six anymore. You have to

535
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: be able to score points and put a product on

536
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Speaker 1: the field that not only lets you score but helps

537
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: you cruked. Because it all goes back to that first bucket.

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00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: And the third thing is roster structure. Our roster management

539
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: as it's called. Alabama doesn't lose a ton at the

540
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: most important spots all at the same time. And when

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Speaker 1: they do lose, you know, a bunch of offensive linemen,

542
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: they go sign the best offensive line class in the

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Speaker 1: history of the world that year. So being able to say,

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Speaker 1: all right, here's where we're at the safety position, here's

545
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: where we're at the running back position, and understanding not

546
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: only the type player, but the type person to bring

547
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Speaker 1: in to be able to plug the hole in that ship.

548
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: And now to go back to the malleability point to

549
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: transfer portal. Bama is sniping the transfer portal to supplement

550
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: their roster in ways that it's hard for a true

551
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: freshman to do. You just look, Jamison Williams, I can

552
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: go down the list. They just got the Gibbs from

553
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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. That's a studit running back, being able to

554
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: see the hole in the boat before the hole is

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00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: there and plug it up. He has been able to

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Speaker 1: not only dominate in one way, he can dominate in

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Speaker 1: multiple ways. Because you don't have a dynasty based on

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00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: one good thing. The mean dynasty wasn't just good at

559
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: one thing. Genghis Khan wasn't just good at one thing.

560
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: It's being able to be good at multiple things and

561
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: understanding the way the game is going and adjust. If

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00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: you look at the quotes from Nick Saban throughout his career,

563
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: he has been ahead on every single issue because you

564
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: can't just immerse yourself in the game on the field.

565
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: You have to immerse yourself on everything involving the game.

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Speaker 1: So when we talk about Nick Saban and we talk

567
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: about this day fifteen years ago, Alabama didn't just get

568
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Speaker 1: the one of the greatest x's and O minds that

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Speaker 1: there is. They got the best CEO in the history

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Speaker 1: of college football. And I don't think it's debatable. Boy, No,

571
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Either. I mean Nick, I mean,

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00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he's the architect man's

573
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: or he built. He built the dream, right, he built

574
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Speaker 1: the dream for kids, whether it's that's lifestyle. You know,

575
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: the facilities and everything surrounded by Alabama, it's there for

576
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: a reason. Everything's almost subliminal. Right. He built these kids

577
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: to dream to where they can walk in and have

578
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: every key to be successful, to get him to the

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Speaker 1: NFL draft, or to win championships, to do this. And

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Speaker 1: when you built a dream like this, you have to

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Speaker 1: stay ahead. And the little things matter, right, And if

582
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Speaker 1: we're Nick Saban, you talk to Nick Saban and he

583
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: loves talking about the little things because they matter at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day. And at the end of

585
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Speaker 1: the day, if you can recruit the way he did

586
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Speaker 1: and you can sell these kids stream that, you can

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00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: see kids already being successful going through. Man, it's just

588
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: great to watch. And you're for Alabama fan. You are lucky.

589
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: It's not rich Rod and you haven't better be super

590
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: happy about it. But man, I don't think you'll ever

591
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: see somebody like this do this again in this day

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00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: of age at college football. You know, if you're an

593
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: Alabama fan, appreciate it. Why you can't because this won't

594
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: be forever and Nick will go down in my opinion

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Speaker 1: as the best coach ever to coach college football. Oh,

596
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: I agree, I'm sending cone. You know, it's funny. The

597
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: only place Nick Saban hasn't had success is in the NFL.

598
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: And what's the one thing different about the NFL and

599
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: college As a head coach, you can't have full control.

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00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: Nick Saban at Alabama has full control every decision that's made.

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00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: He's either the one making the decision, are signing off

602
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: on the decision. When he was in the NFL, you're

603
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: not the biggest baller in the room. The owner is

604
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. But

605
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: he's not the most important one. He's not the one

606
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: call in the shots. That guy's name is Jerry Jones. Yeah.

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00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: I would still be interested to see if coach Saban

608
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: eventually would have had extreme success in the NFL. I mean,

609
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: as it sits, I think he has a five hundred

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00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: record and even a five hundred record against Bill Belichick.

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00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, my father in

612
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: law jokes that why would Nick Saban stay in the

613
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: NFL where he gets one first round draft pick when

614
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: he can go to Alabama and recruit ten first round

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00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: draft picks, which is half of every one of his

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Speaker 1: recruiting classes. But you said it best. Look, he's more

617
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: of a CEO, right even then a coach. Now, yeah,

618
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: he still knows the defensive xs and knows better than

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Speaker 1: anyone in the game. So that helps too. And I

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00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: love the three pillars that you were talking about with

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Speaker 1: recruiting and malleability and roster structure. And I'll add one

622
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: more on there, which you guys have kind of talked about,

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Speaker 1: which is program structure. I mean, this guy knows every

624
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: single thing that is happening. He's not just the leader

625
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: of that foot ball team, he's the leader of that community.

626
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's a whole community of people. He knows

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00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: every single thing that's going on. And I don't think

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00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: it's a coincidence, guys, that you don't hear these controversial

629
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: topics coming out of Tuscaloosa. The way that you hear

630
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: was some other programs about this kid got in trouble there,

631
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: or that assistant coach you know, had stripper gate or whatever.

632
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, you don't hear those kind of things coming

633
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: out of Tuscaloosa. And there's a reason because that CEO.

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00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: While he may be difficult to coach for or he

635
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: may be difficult to play under, he gets things done

636
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: the right way for sure. And again, I don't think,

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00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: as we've talked about, that you're gonna see this replicated. Now,

638
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Speaker 1: will somebody win it twice in a row? Maybe, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's too far fetched to say, especially if

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Speaker 1: and you return those guys back. You know, you look

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Speaker 1: at Alabama right now. Bryce is coming back, Will's coming back.

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Speaker 1: They can't leave, and you know they're only gonna get better.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. And I put out a poll

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Speaker 1: I did this on Twitter, you can find us at

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Speaker 1: the J Boys Show. Would you rather see Alabama win

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Speaker 1: the Natty this year and Saban retire or Alabama lose

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Speaker 1: and Saban stick around? Overwhelming people are willing to watch

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Speaker 1: Alabama win it this year if he'll retire. And that

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Speaker 1: shows you the grip that he has on college football,

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Speaker 1: and you be able to have this much success over time,

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Speaker 1: you have to have that grip. I got Nick Saban's

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Speaker 1: responsible for amost forty percent of the money that SEC

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Speaker 1: brings in. You got a tescloos and now most those

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Speaker 1: kids are from like New Jersey and California, and what

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Speaker 1: he did for that school, they're still not paying him

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Speaker 1: enough that it's still not enough of what he's given

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Speaker 1: to them. So when you look at Nick Saban, love him,

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Speaker 1: hate him whatever, you feel some way about him, because

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Speaker 1: he's made you feel some way about it. And it's

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Speaker 1: so hard, especially nowadays in college football, to be able

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Speaker 1: to do what he has done. They lose the A

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Speaker 1: The rest of the year, every time they had to

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Speaker 1: against Georgia in the SEC championship game, they answered the bell.

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Speaker 1: So when you look at Nick Saban, he is the

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Speaker 1: emperor and right now they can blow the planet up

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Speaker 1: if they want to. All right, guys, that does it

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Speaker 1: for today. I appreciate you guys joining us. Make sure

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