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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This this He's Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys training camp in Hawksnard, California.

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Speaker 1: Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, and Bill

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Speaker 1: Jones and welcome into Talking Cowboys on a Tuesday from Oxnard, California.

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips joined as always by Mickey Spagnola. Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us a few yards down the way at our camp

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Speaker 1: out ten Caden Gates. William Boykin's producing well practice practice

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Speaker 1: once again after an off day, we'll see the cowboy.

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Speaker 1: He's back on the field right out here at five

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Speaker 1: thirty Central ish and pushing towards that first Cowboys preseason

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Speaker 1: game at San Francisco on Saturday night. A lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about as always, on the field, off the field,

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Speaker 1: um as it is August sixth, Malibu. Yeah, August six

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Speaker 1: you cleared that up for us yesterday doesn't really mean

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Speaker 1: much on the Zeke front, zek watch from Mickey did

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Speaker 1: a great job of getting to and again he just

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Speaker 1: mentioned he asked a question. The veteran newspaperman asked a

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Speaker 1: question to get a good answer, and that's information. I

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Speaker 1: mean that it's clearly that Zeke is uh. Zeke's dug

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Speaker 1: in here. You know, that's the reports this morning, right

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Speaker 1: if he's dug in And you know what if you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's not my job or mickey job or your

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Speaker 1: job to negotiate or do anything, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: he I could see his points. I could see that.

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Speaker 1: I could also see, you know, and I hate riding

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Speaker 1: the f I really really do, but I could I

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Speaker 1: could see the front office's point about how they've got

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Speaker 1: so many guys and contracts and what they have to do.

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Speaker 1: But I see his point too. He's very important to

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Speaker 1: what they do offensively with this organization. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't change my view on that. That's just that's

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Speaker 1: just the former personnel guy and me job was always

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Speaker 1: to find players, find elite players, use these elite players,

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Speaker 1: help the coaches the best you can. You know, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: my job to sign him, It's my job to find him,

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Speaker 1: And they found one of the best ones to ever

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Speaker 1: look at how he is and what he does and

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Speaker 1: what he means. But you know, the front office has

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Speaker 1: to that's to total line as well, So you know,

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Speaker 1: good for them on that. We might as well start there, Mack, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I've always it was gonna echo what he said.

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Speaker 1: We're not sitting the on the fence. It's like I

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Speaker 1: learned long time ago. Don't get involved in other people's money. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and it's both sides, right, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: And you can't sit in there go okay, this side's right.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, this side's right right, right, that's their money, right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You can just kind of report the news and um,

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Speaker 1: you know at some point they'll reconcile it. Um. I

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Speaker 1: still think it'll get done. Uh, I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Uh the agent wants a draw line in the sand

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Speaker 1: like that. Well, and then you're speaking to a report

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Speaker 1: this morning from ESPN. I believe it's Josina Anderson. Eric

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Speaker 1: Dickerson involved in the reporting too. His agent is Derek

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Speaker 1: Dickerson's former agent is Rocky Arseno, who is the same

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Speaker 1: agent as as Zeke, same agent that Uh, Zeke will

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Speaker 1: not play this season without a new contract. Right, So

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Speaker 1: that's that's coming from source reports. Um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: imagine coming from Zeke's camp. Yeah, that's absolutely that's coming.

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Speaker 1: That's the word so. And that's funny they're saying they've

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Speaker 1: known this since January, because I don't think no, I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. And Zeke didn't know its right because

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Speaker 1: if he knew that, then he would have been holding

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Speaker 1: out the OTA's the mid camp. He wouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: doing the offseason workouts. You know, I feel this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm the guy that's always yelling about, oh do this,

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Speaker 1: the time about apologizing to Dave Campo, you know, back

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Speaker 1: I really do so I'll have some compassionate right now

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Speaker 1: you know, and Mickey's he was there in the OTAs

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Speaker 1: There's still planning and on him playing. They're still running

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Speaker 1: I understand next man up. But it means I don't

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Speaker 1: as a front office guy, I want that. That's what

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Speaker 1: and they're having to answer questions and Stephen Jones and

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Speaker 1: the front office is having to say this, and people

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Speaker 1: We've we've talked about how well this team has been built.

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Speaker 1: front office. And that it sounds like they're the other

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Speaker 1: Jerry talking about this. I hasn't heard from Zeke, right, no,

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Speaker 1: because that's what he would forfeit if he did not play.

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Speaker 1: And you never make that up. They don't sign a

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a guy that likes Dak Prescott, but I

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Speaker 1: have my I have my concerns about Dak Prescott carrying

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Speaker 1: as I thought he would be. And Dak Prescott deserves

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Speaker 1: he has to end this. Two three different guys go, no,

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Speaker 1: just I don't three point eight millions, three point eight million,

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Speaker 1: It's it's money. It's three You don't want to you

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Speaker 1: it's he's better to lose three and a half million

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Speaker 1: I think everything is fine until Mickey gave you a deadline.

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Speaker 1: not seeing him play, then you're gonna see guys, not

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Speaker 1: I don't know publicly, but you will see body language

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Speaker 1: that's not good. You'll see body language and you'll start

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Speaker 1: to hear some whispers that's not good. Well, you saw

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Speaker 1: that twenty five years ago when you covered the Dynasty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and Charles Haley was throwing a trash can through

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Speaker 1: the wall, right, but but get him and signed all things.

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Speaker 1: Zeke didn't have a contract. Yeah, so Emma didn't have

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Speaker 1: a contract. It was a different situation, was different, and

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Speaker 1: for getting off to a slow start, right, uh. And

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Speaker 1: the excuse was Emmett wasn't there, you know, gonna blame

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Speaker 1: Dot Phillips Picking Spagnola Brian brought us Bill Jones back

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449
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Speaker 1: covered a lot of Zeke stuff first segment. We didn't

450
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Speaker 1: get to a couple of roster moves made. Oh no,

451
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Speaker 1: on the off day, it's always, you know, it's always

452
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Speaker 1: an off day filled with housecleaning, you know, in the

453
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Speaker 1: training camps, always an opportunity to work out guys, maybe

454
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Speaker 1: you know, tweak a couple of things at the back

455
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: end of your roster. And my goodness, it's the end

456
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Speaker 1: of an era, fellas one that never got started. Rico

457
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Speaker 1: Gathers cut yesterday off the ninety man roster. Yeah, that's

458
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Speaker 1: one of those things. I think they're setting us up,

459
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Speaker 1: Mickey and Rob for some roster moves today. Yeah, they've

460
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Speaker 1: got some guys coming in. Stephen Jones has been pretty adam.

461
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Speaker 1: I know he's told Mickey about this. They're a little

462
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Speaker 1: light at corner, they're little light in the offensive line.

463
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Speaker 1: So they've they worked out some guys yesterday. They're gonna

464
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Speaker 1: work out some guys today, have been told, and then

465
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Speaker 1: we'll probably have as signing a two. So we were

466
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Speaker 1: two roster spots down right, Rob is we'd never signed

467
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Speaker 1: anyone back for they're at eighty nine, yes, because they

468
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Speaker 1: Rico's release opens up a spot, but they also signed

469
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Speaker 1: time Is Powell to f there you go, okay, the

470
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: type is pal that's yeah, they had two spots. So

471
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: they're looking for an offensive lineman here. That's gonna be

472
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Speaker 1: the next. They need a guard, yeah, they do. So

473
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Speaker 1: they needed another dB with Byron Jones out, C J.

474
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Speaker 1: Goodwin out and Westery doesn't look like he's long for

475
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Speaker 1: this world. Yeah, he's hurt. Uh and uh so he's

476
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Speaker 1: hasn't practiced since he returned from his what was it

477
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Speaker 1: a one day you know, he he did had he

478
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Speaker 1: had a good day. He had a day back where

479
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: he actually he did and then he got hurt, and

480
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Speaker 1: then he got hurt. Then he got hurt and he

481
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: got hurt. Right yeah, so yeah, we'll see where that

482
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Speaker 1: one goes. So they they're down three guys there, and

483
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Speaker 1: they're down, um the guards. They let Larry Allen Junior

484
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Speaker 1: go right, uh and then Zeke or Zach's not practicing

485
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: and then Wickman gets hurt and I was told he

486
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: was out a month. So he you know, he's either

487
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: gonna get eye yard or he's gonna get an injury

488
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: settlement one of the two, because I mean, if he's

489
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Speaker 1: out a month and they have to make the final cuts,

490
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: there's no way they're gonna keep him on the fifty

491
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: three man roster. Yeah, so so they need another body

492
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Speaker 1: in there they can play guard. So I would imagine

493
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: that'll be the next move. And Powell's a guy has

494
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: been in the league a couple of years, three years.

495
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: I believe he's got some experience with Chris Rochard in Seattle, right,

496
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: he was in San Francisco last year, started one game.

497
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 1: He's kind of a combo safety corner guy. Um. I

498
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: believe he was in camp with Houston last week and

499
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Speaker 1: he got cut. Okay, so it's a you know, it's

500
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Speaker 1: a depth signing. It's a guy with some experience that

501
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Speaker 1: that Richard is familiar with. So, um, that makes sense there,

502
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 1: all right, So he shouldn't call him a camp body then, No,

503
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Speaker 1: he's a veterans. He's got some skins on the way.

504
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: He's a veteran um who can who can help this

505
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Speaker 1: team get through get through practice and we'll see what

506
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Speaker 1: he does in preseason. Um Ander Rico, Yeah, that's the

507
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: other part before we get to Rico you mentioned preseason. Yeah,

508
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: you got to play a game, yes, and you got

509
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: guys that aren't going to play, So you need enough

510
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: bodies to absorb four quarters of football if you're not

511
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: going to play your starters right away. So now you're

512
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: that's when your depth comes in into play. But Rico,

513
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Speaker 1: huh surprised not at all saw the writing on the wall. Yeah.

514
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that they moved on. And they

515
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: moved on, and you know, and and and it's like, okay,

516
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: enough's enough. And it also gives him an opportunity in

517
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Speaker 1: all somebody thinks they can make something out of him,

518
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: he gets an opportunity to go somewhere else. Um, So yeah,

519
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: you know, it just didn't work. It just wasn't working.

520
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: And you know that this Cody McElroy, you know, I

521
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Speaker 1: mean I think he's a wasn't terrible in the he's

522
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Speaker 1: a practice squad. Yeah right, absolutely, yeah, And see he's

523
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Speaker 1: he's kind of maybe the same line of yeah, of

524
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Speaker 1: of what you just cut. But you know, they just

525
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Speaker 1: didn't want to do anything and anything more with with

526
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Speaker 1: with Rico. They mean, they felt like that they didn't

527
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: see the year to year to year of him getting

528
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: any better, and you know, they're like, okay, let's just

529
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: move on, and you know, and I'm okay with that.

530
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they tried. They used a six round pick.

531
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: People were giving him grief about, oh there's another wasted

532
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: pick sixth round. You're looking for traits, which Rico's traite.

533
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: He's big, he's big, he's you know, it's worth it

534
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: to try to try and develop him a little bit.

535
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: And he he just do it. Do it now. In

536
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: great tradition of cowboy tight ends that get released here,

537
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: he'll go sign somewhere else and then and then be

538
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: an all pro. So we'll see how mean, yeah, we'll

539
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: find out today if he got claimed by somebody exactly. Yeah,

540
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, he played in fifteen games last year, three catches,

541
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: forty five yards. I think, you know, with Winton back

542
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: and this being a deep roster, excuse me, the idea

543
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: of keeping four tight ends probably not realistic. I mean,

544
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 1: it's possible if you're keeping a fullback too. Obviously, they

545
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: like the development of Blake Jarwin Dalton Schultz, right, I

546
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: think they were ready to make a move and Cody McElroy.

547
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: I guess that's somebody we can keep an eye on here.

548
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: Sure want to call him Rico two point zero? Yeah,

549
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: he's I think he's twenty six years old. He has

550
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: really never played football up until one year of small

551
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: college football. It's really a baseball I'm a basketball player.

552
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: But he's a guy with with athletic talent that they're

553
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: going to try to develop here in camp. Yeah, twenty six,

554
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, so we'll see, all right, Um, who

555
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: was the tight end that they let go because he

556
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: didn't want to play tight end? And then he went on,

557
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: was it Dwight It wasn't Dwight Clark? Was it? There

558
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: was a tight end? When you just said that about

559
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: in the true history of cowboy tight ends, they go

560
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Oh, Todd Christiansen, Todd Christensen, Yeah, went to

561
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: the Raiders. They wanted him to be a tight end.

562
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: He wanted to be a wide receiver, to be a

563
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver and they and anyway, but yeah, like, yeah,

564
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: I went on Dwight Clark on my mind. Uh, that's okay,

565
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: Dwight Clark's from the same era. Uh. Is it possible

566
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: to use Jalen Smith as an edge rusher in certain packages?

567
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: Guys an edge rusher and not rushing from not just

568
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: rushing linebacker, but an edge rusher. Make you hand down,

569
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: and I don't think you want to do that. He's

570
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: got too much speed to put there that that limits

571
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: his ability. I don't think he's good with a couple

572
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: of steps and a head of steam, but I don't

573
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: know about hand on the ground. He's also two fifty.

574
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: He weighs two forty eight. Yeah, that's a that's a

575
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: light edge rusher there. That's a good question. See. I

576
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: like the question because I like how well he rushes

577
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: the passer. But Micky's right, you're not gonna put his

578
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: hand down. Where where Jalen Smith really helps is when

579
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: and we saw it the other day because he got

580
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: he got Dorian's Armstrong home on a rush where he

581
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: attacked it was Zach Morton and Lyle Collins and he

582
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: was so he attacked those two so hard that it

583
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: occupied him and it got it got armstrong home where

584
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: Armstrong had the duck, so he didn't hit hit Dak.

585
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: But that's what you could get from the fact that

586
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: he plays with so much violence. I see why they

587
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: asked the question, because he plays. But I don't know

588
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: if you want his hand down and then him having

589
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: to do to move somebody. He needs to attack you

590
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: and shock you and then kind of work off you.

591
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: Is the kind of how I would describe him. Attack you.

592
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: Let him go straight ahead into the pocket. Don't put

593
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: him on the edge of the pocket. Put him straight

594
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: ahead in the pocket, and he's gonna have better success.

595
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: He does play with violence. He thumps somebody. He thumps

596
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: somebody pretty good during the Blue White A lot of people,

597
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 1: you know. And with him and Sean Lee, those are

598
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: two linebackers they've got that really excel rushing the quarterback.

599
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: You can rush both of him. You can rush one,

600
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: drop the other. Um plus you's good comment. You can't

601
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: plan on double teaming him, because what happens if you say, okay,

602
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna double him, right, What if he doesn't come?

603
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: Now you've got two guys on nobody right, So with

604
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: him with a running start or is he coming? Is

605
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: he not coming? I think it's a it's a better

606
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: weapon than putting him on the line. And let's Tyrann

607
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: Smith get his hands right right, lock them up right?

608
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: What else you got Brian? Yeah, People have asked, well,

609
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: that's that's probably not a fair question. So I'm not

610
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: gonna asker it. But people, uh, I'm really I mean,

611
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people having discussions on periscope. I

612
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, if you have any questions. Fine, I mean,

613
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm it's a ton of people out there. They're all

614
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: kind of fighting with each other. But I'm arguing amongst Yeah,

615
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: they're arguing. They're arguing. Is in a chat room right now?

616
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: They're they're fighting among themselves. Don't fight get it? Okay? Well?

617
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: How about this though? Maybe and this is is this

618
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: from Tito and it's just a he says that Zeke

619
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: is the next to Marco Murray. Is that in terms

620
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: of too many, too many mileage, too much mileage? Well,

621
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Speaker 1: it's maybe that that it's a it's a thing where

622
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Speaker 1: if you were to pay him, then we say age

623
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Speaker 1: difference to the client. Absolutely, that's what I was saying. Age.

624
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't compare the two at all. Don't you comp

625
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Don't you think that's what he's looking at that if

626
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Speaker 1: I get two more seasons of three hundred carries on

627
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: my plate and I do hit the market, it's gonna

628
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: be well than one of my worth. At this point,

629
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Speaker 1: as opposed when I'm twenty four years old in a

630
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Speaker 1: rushing they want to sign him. Yeah, they would sign

631
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: him today. I'm just trying to Yeah, I know, I know.

632
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Speaker 1: But they want to sign him though. That's the thing,

633
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Speaker 1: right they do. It's not like they didn't want to

634
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Speaker 1: sign Murray because they didn't want an old running back

635
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Speaker 1: on their hands. Two years later. How old was DeMarco

636
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: when he left for Philly? He was twenty seven? Yeah, okay,

637
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: and if you signed him to a five year deal,

638
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: he's finishing it at thirty two. So and he didn't

639
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: play five more years, did he or if he did,

640
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't a high quality five years. The thing about DeMarco,

641
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Speaker 1: I think you could argue Zeke's some more durable guy

642
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: than DeMarco was. He had some injuries when he was here. Yeah,

643
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: he's built different, built differently. I don't know if he

644
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: was built like a I just got down guy. That's

645
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: a bad comparison because the age difference. Yeah, it was significant.

646
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: Now now that's why they didn't resign him. You know,

647
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: they might have resigned him to a two year deal,

648
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: three year deal in Philadelphia, gave him five and then

649
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: cut them one year later, here's a question makes you

650
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: think a little bit. Who if you look at overall,

651
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: which team has better weapons in the division? Dallas or Philly?

652
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Just weapons? If you know, if we can't counting Zeke,

653
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: counting Zeke, oh, I think the Cowboys, do you? Yeah,

654
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Speaker 1: I kind of if you went, if you went running

655
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: back for running back. I think Dallas wins. Their offensive

656
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: lines are very similar to how they would go. I

657
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: mean that that's not a weapon. That's I guess the

658
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: weapon if you can use your offensive line quarterback. I'm

659
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: going Dak based on durability. Durability alone, Yeah, and number

660
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: of games one. So why do you think Philadelphia everybody's

661
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: picking them to win the East? They're a good team. Yeah,

662
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody's picking I think if you

663
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: haven't seen one that hasn't probably the coaching staff, because

664
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff has and again I know, I mean

665
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: there's no slam to Garrett. I'm just saying that that

666
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: guy has won a super Bowl. The nature of the

667
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: league too, you know the stat one's the last time

668
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: somebody repeated two four. It's a fluctuating division. Always is

669
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Speaker 1: they're playing that game? I wonder if they're gonna regret

670
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: paying Carson Wentz as opposed to Nick Foles. Just anybody.

671
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm you know, I'm yeah. I wonder wonder

672
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: if they're worried about that. He's a great player. I

673
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: mean great talent, great talent. But you know what, if

674
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Speaker 1: you count the years he still had it on his

675
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: contra better tied end by the way, all that, all that, yeah,

676
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: all that, all that talk about him making thirty thirty

677
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: two million, it comes out to twenty seven. Yeah, because

678
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: the base salary still counts. See, that's what we need

679
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: to happen. We need a big old high number for

680
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: these guys. And then but Mickey does his research and

681
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: it's actually only the third or fourth best contract. I

682
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: think that's what the Cowboys are trying to do, don't you. Yeah,

683
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: they don't want to they don't want to be the

684
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: top dog in the thing. But they'll give you an

685
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Speaker 1: opportunity to be in the mix. Give you, give you

686
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Speaker 1: a fair, top five, top seven contract. Yeah. Hey, one

687
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: more thing about about the division. Don't sleep on Washington, Okay, Yeah,

688
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm just they have they have a terrific defensive front

689
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: that's gonna challenge you. I just look at that Week

690
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Speaker 1: two game and everybody's talking about Philly and maybe I

691
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: have visions of RG three. Well with Dwayne Haskins coming in,

692
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean there's a chance he can come in and

693
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: they make things. You know they have, he has an

694
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: offensive minded head coach. Maybe he has a terrific rookie season. Right.

695
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm just this division is not going to be easy.

696
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: That's why this Zeke thing is a little unsettling, because again,

697
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Speaker 1: you don't want him missing games. Well, that's why that's

698
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Speaker 1: why it's good the Cowboys have them early because you're

699
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Speaker 1: gonna if they're gonna start a rookie quarterback. You know

700
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: what if it was me in Washington. Jay Gruen's another

701
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: one of those coaches it's probably looking at, you know,

702
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: win or do something else kind of a guy. But

703
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: I go ahead and start that young quarterback. I would

704
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Speaker 1: I just so and and and and start the journey.

705
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Speaker 1: And you know, if if it works out, you might

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Speaker 1: you still might save your job because that might be

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Speaker 1: the reason you look at and say, okay, well I try,

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Speaker 1: I try. Yeah. People want to know here, has Taco

710
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: done enough to make the team as of right now,

711
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: he's got a guaranteed based salaries. So yeah, you think

712
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: they'll keep him just because of the salary. It's like

713
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: three million dollars three something off the top of my head. Yeah,

714
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: that's a lot to burn when you're trying to sign

715
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Speaker 1: all these guys. Okay, to take the take the this

716
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Speaker 1: is this is a loaded question, Mickey. I'm sorry. No,

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Speaker 1: That's why I answered it that way because I don't

718
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: know that he has done Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If it came down to you had to keep him

720
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Speaker 1: because you don't want to eat three and a half

721
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: million dollars, you would you would you make that decision.

722
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: But but just based on take away the take away

723
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: that money part, and and ask has he done enough?

724
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Has he shown you enough currently? And and we're we

725
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: haven't played in these preseason games yet, but has he

726
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: done enough in practice to make you feel like, oh,

727
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: the rise is coming now? He's had some good days.

728
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: We talked. We talked to Rod Marinelli about him, and

729
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: he said he was impressed with the way he's practicing.

730
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: And to me, it's not just his production out there,

731
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: it's the it's the motor. It's all of those things,

732
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: because that was one of the things they talked to him,

733
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,480
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734
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735
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: yourself in a certain way out there. I just wish

736
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: it would look like he was having fun out there.

737
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: He doesn't smile at all. Everything is a everything is

738
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: a grind to him because but we talked to him,

739
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740
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: and nobody ever says anything kind about it. And we

741
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: talked to him about this last year too, and he acknowledged,

742
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of a laid back guy, and

743
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: I give off maybe a certain impression. It's it's it's

744
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Speaker 1: not accurate necessary, you know, Like I think he he's

745
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Speaker 1: one of those people that maybe you can't necessarily just

746
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Speaker 1: read the body language. Only. I want to see him

747
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: make up play and celebrate. I want him to take

748
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Speaker 1: I mean there's guys like Malie Collins that don't you know,

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Speaker 1: he's not He's not d law in terms of personality, right, Yeah,

751
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: but he looks like he's having fun up there. Yeah,

752
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: that's that's what You're right, Brian, He's been under a

753
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,080
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754
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,120
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755
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: they're very We forget he was twenty eighth pick in

756
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, you know what are you gonna find?

757
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: Who's who's it? Who's his main competition to make this team?

758
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Speaker 1: Then Jolkes carry Hyder Hyder Yeah, those Joe Jackson, Joe

759
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: Jackson Jackson, there's there's competition because Dorence Armstrong is on

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00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: this team. Yeah, yeah, I think that too. I think

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840
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Speaker 1: Lumba or Goodwin or Goodwin or Goodwin. He's making some

841
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: plays out here, isn't he. Yeah, So yeah, that's a

842
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: tough one. That's stuff they like him too. See, there's

843
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of guys on this team. Noah

844
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Brown could be another one like C. J. Goodwin that

845
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: you really don't see it out here right now. And

846
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, we're to get the final

847
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: fifty three and it's gonna be C. J. Goodwin's on

848
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: there and Noah Browns on their specialty good one was

849
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: a guy I want to say he broke his wrist

850
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: or his something, his forearm a bonus the first game

851
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: he played, miss some games and they really were like

852
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: disappointed in that because of what he gives him put him.

853
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: They put him on the bring back injury guy, didn't

854
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: they He came back. He came back. I should know this.

855
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: What's his injury right now? He got like a hamstring

856
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: or something, don't know. He tresses up, but he never

857
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: runs anything. He never He haven't been out there the

858
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: last couple of days. Yeah, I mean he's been. He hasn't.

859
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean I think I've seen him once or twice

860
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: early when we were here. It might have been through

861
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: that walkthrough period that we were the acclamation period that

862
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: was and then he and then he wasn't doing anything.

863
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: Collie McGovern who, Yeah, I need to find that out. Yeah,

864
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: I need to find that out. But but it's gonna

865
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: come down to him. Like if you want Donovan a

866
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: Lumba on this team, is it gonna come down to

867
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: Mike Jackson. We need to see a Lumba against the

868
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: top corners when he makes plays. It seems like it's

869
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: always the second team offense man. He Yeah, he had

870
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: a heck of a day the other day though, and

871
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: then he and then he got on a fumble the

872
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: other day that was caused by by by the safety

873
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: that nobody ever talks about. And it was a and

874
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: it was a fumble, right yeah, my little guy, Donovan Wilson. Yeah,

875
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: because don Wilson a little nice practice. I was standing

876
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: there and I said, oh, I'm gonna throw the red flag.

877
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: We punched it out, punched it out. Well, maybe that's

878
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: something the coaching staff that looks at you know, bump

879
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: him up, give him some first team reps you don't

880
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: have Byron Jones. And anyway, we're gonna find out in

881
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: preseason and the games, right sure, yeah, sure, because I

882
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: don't know how everybody else is gonna play their guys,

883
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: if you're gonna play first team or not. See, he's

884
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: gonna be out. This is where Donovan Almbo. I kind

885
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: of thought Donovan Lomba was one of those guys that's

886
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna always be in position but never make plays. Kind

887
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: of a clapper, you know, one of those guys. But

888
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: he's proven me wrong. But I just wonder if we've

889
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: seen it with Lancell Nor Remember Lancellor looks like all

890
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: Valley Ranch and then all of a sudden you get

891
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: him in a game and you're like going, like, did

892
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: he just do? Lights are too bright? Yeah? Lights are

893
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: too bright. So you know, I know there's a lot

894
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: of folks cheering for Donovan Alumbo. I know that I'm

895
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: raising my hand right now. Yeah, I know, because you

896
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: had lunch with him every day and the start, he

897
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: never missed the no. But you know it works out

898
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: by himself. He does. Christopher Shard has put a lot

899
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: of time in him. Yeah, there's no trudge to develop him,

900
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: no question, you're seeing it out here. I wouldn't. I

901
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: would if Chris will stand in that meeting and fight

902
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: for him over CJ. Goodwin. I wondered, Now this is

903
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: where this is where, all of a sudden we look

904
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: at the special teams and coach special teams and the

905
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: special teams. Coach would say, well, listen, can you promise

906
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: me that Donovan Alumbo will do this, will cover kicks,

907
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: we'll do, we'll cover punts, will be a blocker on

908
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: the on the outside. Will you promise me that? And

909
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: if he is, then then you gotta fight, you know.

910
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: And I think they're I think they're starting to listen

911
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: to Keith O'Quinn a lot more. Yeah. I think, you know,

912
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: when he first got the job, I think everybody thought, oh,

913
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: well that he just you know, they did the easiest

914
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: thing and promoted him. But I think his voice is

915
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: starting to get a little louder. Well, he got tired

916
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: of finishing twenty fourth and all those categories. He's that

917
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: kicking situation though. That guy missed that kick so badly

918
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: the other day. I gotta keep track of it today.

919
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: I gotta keep track of it today if he's kicking today. Yeah. So,

920
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: but we we said it's gonna come down to that.

921
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: We think Jackson's gonna make the team, right, he would

922
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: be five right, right, But they're playing the Coup. They're

923
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: playing de coup out there too, but the coup hasn't

924
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: been seen anything. It's kind of a safety. Isn't he

925
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: more than a corner? They keep playing, They keep playing him.

926
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: It's slot. Yeah, can you keep six corners? I guess yeah,

927
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: I am. Georgia Loca is not on my team right now, Guys,

928
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I'm in thir he's third team and

929
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: he's not first team on any of the special teams

930
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: seen when they're line up, it's been Darian Tompson ahead

931
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, my Aggie, Donovan Wilson as well. Right, well,

932
00:46:53,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: Cavon a Cavon, Cavon, Frasier ca Cavon Cavon, they're all there, Lavan. Okay,

933
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: So so it's a tbd on mister ask you this says, Okay,

934
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: we were kind of touting. Brian brought us touting Luke Gifford. Yes,

935
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: Luke Gifford find a way on this team. Let's go

936
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: through the lineback right, right, shams Man, I think it

937
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: could come down to him and Chris Comington. Right, do

938
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: you think that's the matchup as a backup linebacker? Special teams?

939
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: I think coverd on this team, I think. So gotta

940
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: pick the other day nice pick. Yeah in team. See

941
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: that's another one. Can you keep seven linebackers that that's

942
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem. So one of those, one of

943
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 1: those spots will go long because of special teams. Could

944
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: you'll just say he's a special teams guy right where

945
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna steal that spot from We're gonna steal We're

946
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: gonna go three tight ends, right, yeah, we're gonna go

947
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. Yeah, how many offensive lineman you mean you

948
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: could go with eight, but you probably won't. You probably

949
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: go with nine, right, nine er ten? Right? Yeah? Hard

950
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: to find offensive defensive linemen are hard to find during

951
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: the season. Yes, so I'm always going along at those

952
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: spots because I don't want to have to go out

953
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: and try and find a guy off a practice squad. Well,

954
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: let's let's break it down. MB We remember Gifford, Um,

955
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: he's on all the spell, the first, the first special,

956
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: all the special teams first ye special. Covington also missed

957
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: some time early on campus, right, No Covingtons on it

958
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: also though, Yeah, well boy, that's what that's where the

959
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: games are gonna come down to. Yeah, that's where the games.

960
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we act like preseason doesn't matter,

961
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: but it matters to these type. Absolutely matters these guys.

962
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: It's really important to them. So who your backup offensive lineman.

963
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: Then at this point that you'd keep fleming, uh, well

964
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: you got fleming, and then you're gonna have to figure

965
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: with the McGovern looney. See, I think they're gonna carry

966
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: McGovern if we've got a mailback question about him today. Man,

967
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: this is tough. I mean, they get eye arm and

968
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: then bring them back in nine weeks. Yeah, yeah, I

969
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: think that's I see where they're at, see where they're at.

970
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: A roster spot and you don't lose a guy that

971
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: you can because it doesn't sound I mean, I don't.

972
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: You don't see him out there running, do you know?

973
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: I don't see I mean you run into peep and

974
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: you ask the McGovern and you're like, they're like, it's unfortunately,

975
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: he's just not strong enough. His his his ability, his

976
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: his injury does not a lot. He hasn't been strong

977
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: enough to go out there and practice. And they're not

978
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna put him out there until he is strong enough. Right,

979
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: So when is that? It could be after camp and

980
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: then by that time you're gonna maybe need a roster spot,

981
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, and if and if and if and maybe

982
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: you decide, well, he really does need surgery and yeah,

983
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: and then surgery means you're done, yeah with that injury

984
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: with a peck with a peck. So um. But somehow

985
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna want to keep his his rights obviously, right,

986
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, how many did when we counted Looney Redmond? Redmond?

987
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: For sure, I'm given Redmand the nod because he could

988
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: play guard and center. I know that's the same thing

989
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: as is Joe Looney. Yeah, if fleming, okay, let's count

990
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: him a house. You got your five starters right right,

991
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: and I'm just going down the list. Redmond would be six,

992
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: ok Uh, Looney would be seven, Sue Philo would be eight. Right.

993
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: Is Sue Philo the bubble guy on the offensive line?

994
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: I think so he's your first team left guard right now?

995
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: He's I just I agree with Mickey. I think he

996
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: is a bubble guy saying if everything's equal, like Zach's

997
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: good to go, if they had to carry, if they

998
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: have to carry, if they feel they have to carry.

999
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern, I'm not sure that that Sue Philo is

1000
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: on this team. I'm not only if McGovern can complaint

1001
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: can practice because of because of the position flex of

1002
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: the other guys. Yeah, yeah, because I don't think there's

1003
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: another tackle they would keep. Let hyatt. I'll tell you what.

1004
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: Mitch Hyde has had his days where he's looked okay

1005
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: and then he's okay. What about Brandon Knight moving him

1006
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: at guard? He's playing guard and tackle that's out of necessity. Yeah,

1007
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: but he hasn't been terrible. We'll see in these games.

1008
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: I keep saying we'll seeing these we got we got

1009
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: four games, I know. But but the thing with Brandon Knight,

1010
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: he looks better at guard than he does at tackle.

1011
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: But this could he could he play? Could they use

1012
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: him as that guard and tackle guy? Could he be

1013
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: the tenth guy that they don't want to lose? See

1014
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: that's where that's where maybe maybe you're right. Maybe it's

1015
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: nine guys. I needed my pen to add up stuff.

1016
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it's nine guys. That's where I think it's nine guys.

1017
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: It's not ten. Brian wants to keep ten. Brian doesn't

1018
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: have a tenth guy. Yeah, that's that's the problem. Yeah,

1019
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: especially if you keep Sue Filo. Yep. And don't even

1020
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: get me started on the d line. Don't start. Don't

1021
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: get me started on the receivers. I think Nick Eatman's

1022
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: coming up with a list of that today. Stay tuned

1023
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: for a top ten on wide receiver and the wide receiver. Yeah,

1024
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: ten of them? Yeah, like the how they're ranked? Yeah?

1025
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: How you ranked the top ten receivers in camp? Right now?

1026
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: Are I'm making the team? Is? Let me ask you

1027
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: this to make the team just about a minute to

1028
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: make the team, Noah Brown, yes or no? You know

1029
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: my answer. He's in the Jeremy Nincy category. Just I

1030
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: don't know against think about it, think about it. In

1031
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: the end, I'm right all the time. Yeah, Oh, are

1032
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: you sure about that? If I missed on they love

1033
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: Noah Brown. Yeah, because if you play specialty camp play

1034
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: now he's coming off that knee surgery. Zach Martin ain't

1035
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: playing right now? Is that a problem? No? No, all right,

1036
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: Zach Martin can block. I don't need by wide receiver

1037
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: to block the way the rules are now, you give

1038
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: me one to run. Yeah, you can't come back and

1039
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: crack back anymore. Exactly. That's a good point, Mick. All right,

1040
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: we'll continue this tomorrow. Let's end on that good point.

1041
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: All right, we got a practice to cover today, five

1042
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: Central time. Stay tuned to Dallas Cowboys dot Com for

1043
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: all Brian's recap our recaps, and we'll have the practice

1044
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: talk about Yeah, training camp live. Do there's still another

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Speaker 1: minute on this clock here? Yeah? Well, Caden's taking charge

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Speaker 1: right all right, running the ship, all right, the breaks

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